October 28, 2024 Creative Compilation Business Ecosystems Network, Faith Hope H, 

Speakers AVA and Chip (Speakers are AI hosts.) 

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Welcome, welcome everyone.

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Coded conversations.

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Unlocking the secrets of learning on your terms.

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Whether you're prepping for a presentation

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or just super curious about a new field.

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Or maybe even just love learning new things.

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Exactly.

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And to guide us on this journey,

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we've got a whole stack of fascinating sources.

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Articles, definitions, some lively forum discussions.

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Even insights from those who've mastered the art

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of teaching themselves.

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So, think auto didacts, those self-taught gurus.

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Right.

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But it's more than just defining what self-directed learning

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i-s.

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It's about figuring out how w to make it work for you.

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Right, exactly.

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The h-how-w and the w-h-why.

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Can anyone become this super learner?

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Or are some people just, I don't know, wired for it?

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Ooh, that's a good question.

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Before we get all philosophical, maybe

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we should start with the basics.

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What exactly does self-directed learning even mean?

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Well, one of our sources, it's called VisualSP,

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they define it as, hmm, let me see.

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It's a learning strategy were learners

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are in the driver's seat.

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OK, so they're calling the shots on their own education.

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Yeah.

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They figure out what they need to learn, set their own goals,

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choose their strategies, and even, get this,

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evaluate their own performance.

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Whoa, hold on.

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That sounds like a lot of responsibility.

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It is.

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It's pretty empowering, but also kind of intimidating,

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to be honest.

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I agree, yeah.

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It's like, imagine being handed the keys

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to a super-fast race car.

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OK, I'm picturing this.

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And someone just says, OK, go.

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You're in charge now.

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Vroom.

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Exactly.

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Exciting, right.

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But you better know what you're doing, otherwise, crash.

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Yikes.

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So self-directed learning is not for the faint of heart.

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Well, it's definitely a different approach

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than the traditional classroom setup.

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Right, in a classroom, you've got

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the teacher who tells you what to learn, how to learn it,

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and then, boom, grades you on it.

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Yeah, and with self-directed learning,

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you're kind of all those roles at once.

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Yeah.

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You become the teacher, the curriculum designer,

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and yeah, the one giving yourself the grade.

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Whoa.

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So, it's all about taking ownership.

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No more passive listening in a lecture hall.

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You're the one actively creating your own learning path.

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Yes.

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But let's be real.

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Doesn't sound easy.

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It's not always a walk in the park.

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Our source, Visual SP, they actually

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point out some real challenges, things

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that can make self-directed learning feel

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more like an uphill climb.

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Definitely.

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OK, so let's talk about those roadblocks.

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What are some of the things that might trip us up

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on this solo learning adventure?

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Well, I think one of the biggest ones right off the bat

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is not even knowing where to start.

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Oh, I feel that, especially when you're

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diving into a brand-new field.

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It's like information overload.

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Totally.

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It's a sea of information, and you're like,

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which way do I swim?

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And you're trying to be efficient with your time, right?

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You don't want to waste hours on stuff that's not even relevant.

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Exactly, yeah.

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It's got to be focused, targeted.

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Otherwise, you're just wandering around this giant library,

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no Dewey Decimal system, no librarian to help you out.

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Chaos.

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And then on top of that, there's the whole procrastination

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thing.

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Don't get me started.

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I am the queen of procrastination.

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It happens.

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But yeah, when there's no set deadlines, no teacher

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looking over your shoulder.

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It's way too easy to be like, eh, I'll study tomorrow.

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Tomorrow turns into next week, next month.

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Exactly.

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Maybe that's what separates the casual learners from the,

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what did you call them, autodidact.

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Yeah, maybe.

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Those who actually pushed through all that.

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It takes serious willpower.

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Like, you know, those folks, they're

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able to overcome these hurdles.

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Those are the ones who are really mastering

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self-directed learning.

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It's like a test.

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Builds character.

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I like that, yeah.

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A crucible.

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Forging those self-directed learning superpowers.

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OK, before we get too carried away,

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we keep using this term autodidact.

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True, true.

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What exactly does that even mean?

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Well, vocabulary.com, they put it pretty simply.

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And autodidact is basically a self-taught person.

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So, someone who's like going rogue,

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learning stuff outside the traditional classroom.

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Yeah, exactly.

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They're learning without needing that formal teacher

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institution.

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OK, so it's not just about watching YouTube tutorials

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instead of going to class.

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No, it's deeper than that.

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It's about that mindset, that drive

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to learn, to seek out knowledge, to be in charge.

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But honestly, can you really get a deep understanding

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of something without that formal instruction?

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Well, history is full of examples of folks

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who did exactly that.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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And if you look at these successful autodidacts,

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one thing that really stands out is their passion.

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They're driven.

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Makes sense.

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Got to be motivated if you're going it alone.

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Right.

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Take Joseph Villanueva, for example.

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Who's that?

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He's actually featured in a Forbes article we have.

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This guy's a successful entrepreneur,

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built his career from the ground up, no fancy degree.

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Wait, a successful entrepreneur, no degree?

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How'd he pull that off?

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Well, it wasn't all smooth sailing.

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He ended up having to teach himself,

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get this, the legal system.

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What?

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To defend himself.

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In court?

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Was he in trouble?

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He was a whistleblower, went up against his former employer.

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Wow.

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Talk about high stakes.

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And he won.

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But it all started with him taking the time

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to learn the law all on his own.

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That's pretty incredible.

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He turned a challenge into this huge learning opportunity.

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And that self-reliance, that's pretty empowering.

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Absolutely.

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And I think that speaks to another strength

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we see in autodidacts.

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They tend to be pretty innovative thinkers.

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Creative types.

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Yeah.

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I mean, think about it.

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They're not stuck in the same box as traditional education.

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Right.

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They're free to explore, to experiment.

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Exactly.

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And that can lead to some really outside the box thinking,

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making connections others might miss.

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Like they're charting their own course

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through the world of knowledge.

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I like that.

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And some of history's most famous innovators,

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they fit this mold.

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Like Nikola Tesla, the guy who basically changed

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the way we use electricity.

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Tesla.

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Oh, yeah.

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He was a genius.

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A lot of his work, the AC system especially,

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that was him being largely self-taught.

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Wow.

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And didn't Steve Jobs, the Apple guy,

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also have a pretty unconventional approach

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to, well, everything?

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He did.

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Super intuitive with technology, never afraid

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to question the status quo.

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A real rebel.

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And then you have Marie Curie.

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Groundbreaking scientist, did amazing work

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with radioactivity, but she faced a ton of challenges,

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especially being a woman in a very male-dominated field

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at the time.

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It's incredible, though, these autodidacts.

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You've got Tesla, Jobs, Curie, such different fields,

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but they all share that drive to explore, to experiment,

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to push boundaries.

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So, what is it about self-directed learning

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that kind of breeds these innovators?

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Well, when you're learning on your own terms,

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you're constantly having to be evaluating different ideas,

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seeking out new info, figuring how it all connects in a way

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Adaptability.

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No teacher to guide you.

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being naturally wired for self-directed learning.

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Well, maybe.

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that really fuels successful autodidacts, is passion.

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That's good news for the rest of us.

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if you've got the passion, the drive.

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You got it.

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It's just a natural eagerness to learn,

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a real thirst for knowledge.

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They're curious.

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They want to understand.


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They're driven by something deeper.

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that's what separates those who just dabble in self-learning.

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Which one?

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Formal education versus going rogue.

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Is one really better than the other?

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the main points are the structure, the access

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Meeting other students, professors,

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building those connections, that can open doors later on.

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They talk a lot about the freedom

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to learn at your own pace.

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Traditional education can be super expensive.

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something you're truly passionate about.

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It's got to be easier to stay engaged.

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What do you mean?

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One of the most interesting perspectives on that forum

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is this idea of combining the best of both worlds.

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I'm intrigued.

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Tell me more.

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Think about like going to university,

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but approaching it with that autodidact mindset.

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So you're still in the university setting, but.

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using the resources and guidance when you need them,

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but not being limited by the curriculum.

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I like that.

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It's like having a support system,

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but also the freedom to explore your own interests.

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Exactly, find that balance, that sweet spot.

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people are drawn to self-directed learning.

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What's that?

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It's that potential to learn faster, more efficiently.

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Time is precious.

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And speaking of efficiency, we came across this amazing

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example in our research, Scott H. Young's MIT Challenge.

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Have you heard of this?

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That's a classic.

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This guy, he basically decided to teach himself

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the entire four-year MIT computer science curriculum.

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Understatement.

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Wow.

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A four-year degree crammed into one year.

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That's next level.

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I don't know.

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How did he pull that off?

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He used a technique called topic threading.

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Topic threading?

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What is that?

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It's actually something jazz musicians use.

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They practice these individual musical ideas, little riffs

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or melodies, all separately, and then they figure out

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how to weave them together into a song.

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to learning computer science.

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Instead of just memorizing facts,

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he focused on understanding how different concepts connected

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to each other.

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Building that mental framework.

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Not just accumulating isolated bits of information.

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That's brilliant.

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It's like learning to see the forest A and D the trees.

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Yeah, the big picture, but also the details.

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But let's be real.

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Not everyone can dedicate a whole year

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to learning one thing like Young did.

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What about those of us who are just starting out

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with self-directed learning?

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What are some baby steps we can take to kind of develop

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those autodidact muscles?

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One of the articles we found actually

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gives some really solid advice for aspiring autodidacts.

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And step one, it's all about becoming resourceful.

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OK, resourceful.

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What does that mean in this context?

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Thinking beyond the usual textbooks and lectures.

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So where else do you go for knowledge?

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You could explore online libraries, for one.

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Connect with experts, maybe through online forums.

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There's so much out there.

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The internet is a gold mine.

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True.

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That's why being resourceful is so important.

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You got to know how to find what you need, evaluate it,

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and make it work for you.

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What else?

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What other advice does this article give?

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Consistency is key.

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Ah, the dreaded C word.

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I know, but hear me out.

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Self-directed learning, it thrives on routine.

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So, like making a schedule, sticking to it.

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Set aside specific time for learning

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and try to make it a regular thing,

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even when life gets crazy.

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That's the hard part.

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It is, but that's where passion comes in, right?

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If you're truly excited about what you're learning.

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It's easier to make time for it.

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Nurture your curiosity.

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Figure out what really lights you up,

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what makes you want to learn more,

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and dive into those topics.

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Follow those passions.

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Genuine interest, that's the fuel that will keep you going.

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I love that.

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It's about finding the joy in learning,

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not just chasing some outcome.

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The journey itself is the reward.

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I actually stumbled across a connection

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between self-directed learning and something totally

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unexpected, effective delegation.

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Delegation?

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it talks about how important it is

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to trust others to complete tasks their own way.

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the how doesn't really matter.

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all about self-reliance.

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Oh, yeah, I see it now.

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Figuring things out independently,

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even if it's messy sometimes.

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And good delegators, they do the same thing.

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They empower others to learn by doing.

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Interesting parallel.

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00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,760
But let's bring it back to the individual learner.

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We've talked a lot about theory, the psychology of it all.

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But how do you actually translate all this knowledge

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into action?

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That's where this YouTube video, Armani Talks, comes in.

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00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,320
He makes a really strong case for the role

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of experiences in self-directed learning.

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OK, experiences.

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How do those fit in?

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Think about it like baking a cake.

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In the traditional education model,

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theory is the cake itself.

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00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:15,960
OK, the cake.

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I like cake.

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Reasoning, that's the frosting.

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00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,080
Mm, frosting.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,880
And experiences, they're like the sprinkles on top.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,080
Nice to have, but not essential.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:24,760
Got it.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,200
But then you're saying in the autodidact's world.

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Experiences become the cake.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,040
Whoa, a cake made of experiences.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,240
Reasoning is still the frosting and the theory,

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,240
just the sprinkles.

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00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,840
Wow, that's a tasty analogy.

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00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,720
So, you're saying autodidacts, they

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00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,360
put more emphasis on doing rather than just knowing.

[Chip Co-Host]
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Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,360
They understand you don't really learn something

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00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,920
until you put it into practice.

[AVA Co-Host]
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It's about experimenting, making mistakes,

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learning from those mistakes.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,880
Yeah, and refining your understanding

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00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,560
through hands-on experience.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,800
That's empowering, though.

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00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,560
Like, don't just sit around reading about it.

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Go do it.

[Chip Co-Host]
477
00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,240
Exactly.

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00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,680
Get your hands dirty.

[AVA Co-Host]
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This has been super fascinating, but honestly, my brain

[AVA Co-Host]
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is starting to feel full.

[Chip Co-Host]
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It's a lot to take in.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,840
Information overload.

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And I'm sure our listeners are feeling it, too.

[Chip Co-Host]
484
00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,760
Yeah, it's probably time to hand it over to them for a bit.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,360
So, listeners, as we go deeper into the self-directed learning

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486
00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,920
thing, what's clicking for you?

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Anything surprising?

[AVA Co-Host]
488
00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,280
Yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
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Out of everything we've talked about, what stands out,

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,120
what makes you want to grab a notebook and start exploring?

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00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,520
While you're thinking about that,

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,320
I think there's one more piece of the puzzle

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00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,640
we need to talk about, goal setting.

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Goals.

[AVA Co-Host]
495
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It seems like everything comes back to goals these days.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,720
Well, for good reason.

[AVA Co-Host]
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I get it, though.

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If you're in charge of your own learning,

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you need a direction, right?

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:43,280
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
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Otherwise, you're just lost in this sea of information.

[Chip Co-Host]
502
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,840
No math, no compass.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,800
You might end up somewhere interesting.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,520
You might not end up where you wanted to go.

[Chip Co-Host]
505
00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,600
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,400
So yeah, setting goals is crucial.

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OK, but how do we make sure we're

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setting the right kind of learning goals?

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509
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Are we talking like smart goals here, specific, measurable,

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510
00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,480
all that jazz?

[Chip Co-Host]
511
00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,880
All that good stuff, yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
512
00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,640
Those principles definitely apply here, too.

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00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,400
Clear, actionable, all that.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,720
But I also think it's super important to connect those goals

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,720
to your values, your interests.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,520
Ooh, that's a good point.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,240
So, it's not just about gaining knowledge for the sake of it.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,520
It's about how that knowledge can actually help you grow,

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,320
maybe even make a difference in the world.

[Chip Co-Host]
520
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,520
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
521
00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,080
When your learning goals are tied to something bigger,

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,400
something you really care about.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,520
It gives it more meaning.

[Chip Co-Host]
524
00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,020
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
525
00:16:32,020 --> 00:16:35,400
It's less about checking boxes and more about becoming

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,880
the best version of yourself.

[AVA Co-Host]
527
00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:37,840
OK, I love that.

[AVA Co-Host]
528
00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,160
It's like finding that sweet spot where your passions

[AVA Co-Host]
529
00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,920
and your purpose kind of line.

[AVA Co-Host]
530
00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,500
But even with the best intentions,

[AVA Co-Host]
531
00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:47,520
even with those perfectly crafted smart goals,

[AVA Co-Host]
532
00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,720
self-directed learning can be, well, tough.

[Chip Co-Host]
533
00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,640
For sure.

[AVA Co-Host]
534
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,960
There are going to be times when you hit a wall,

[AVA Co-Host]
535
00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,240
you get discouraged.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,120
What advice would you give to someone who's


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00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,920
struggling to stay on track?

[Chip Co-Host]
538
00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,780
I think the first thing to remember is,

[Chip Co-Host]
539
00:16:59,780 --> 00:17:01,680
you're not alone in this.

[Chip Co-Host]
540
00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,800
Every learner, even those super experienced autodidacts,

[Chip Co-Host]
541
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,520
they face moments of doubt.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,780
So, it's normal to feel discouraged sometimes.

[AVA Co-Host]
543
00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:11,160
It doesn't mean you're failing.

[Chip Co-Host]
544
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:11,800
Not at all.

[Chip Co-Host]
545
00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,200
It's just part of the process.

[Chip Co-Host]
546
00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,560
What matters is how you deal with those feelings.

[Chip Co-Host]
547
00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,840
One thing that can really help is breaking down

[Chip Co-Host]
548
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,280
those big, scary goals.

[AVA Co-Host]
549
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,360
Into smaller chunks?

[Chip Co-Host]
550
00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:22,320
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
551
00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,280
Bite-sized pieces.

[AVA Co-Host]
552
00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,200
Works for everything.

[AVA Co-Host]
553
00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,080
Writing, exercise, you name it.

[Chip Co-Host]
554
00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:26,580
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
555
00:17:26,580 --> 00:17:30,280
Instead of feeling overwhelmed by this massive mountain

[Chip Co-Host]
556
00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,520
you have to climb, focus on one step at a time.

[AVA Co-Host]
557
00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,560
Celebrate those little victories along the way.

[Chip Co-Host]
558
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,060
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
559
00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:38,560
And each step, no matter how small, it builds momentum.

[AVA Co-Host]
560
00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,960
It keeps you moving forward.

[Chip Co-Host]
561
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,240
And sometimes a simple change of scenery can help, too.

[AVA Co-Host]
562
00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,280
Ooh, yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
563
00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,840
I'm a big believer in that.

[AVA Co-Host]
564
00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,960
Get out of your usual study spot.

[AVA Co-Host]
565
00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,440
Maybe put on some music.

[Chip Co-Host]
566
00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,440
Or just take a walk.

[Chip Co-Host]
567
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,160
Clear your head.

[AVA Co-Host]
568
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:51,760
Totally.

[AVA Co-Host]
569
00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,840
It's like hitting the reset button on your brain.

[Chip Co-Host]
570
00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,960
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
571
00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,240
Sometimes all it takes is that fresh perspective

[Chip Co-Host]
572
00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,240
to kind of spark that motivation again.

[Chip Co-Host]
573
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,720
But let's say you've tried all that, changed your environment,

[Chip Co-Host]
574
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,000
took a break, and you're still feeling stuck.

[AVA Co-Host]
575
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,440
What do you do then?

[AVA Co-Host]
576
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,400
When you've exhausted all your solo strategies.

[Chip Co-Host]
577
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,440
That's when you tap into the power of community.

[AVA Co-Host]
578
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,920
Ah, the power of community.

[AVA Co-Host]
579
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,800
It's amazing what we can accomplish

[AVA Co-Host]
580
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,760
when we work together.

[Chip Co-Host]
581
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,560
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
582
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,680
Reach out to other learners.

[Chip Co-Host]
583
00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,300
Maybe join some online forums.

[Chip Co-Host]
584
00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:23,200
Find a mentor.

[AVA Co-Host]
585
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,040
Even just talking to a friend who shares your interests,

[AVA Co-Host]
586
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,720
it helps to know you're not alone in this journey.

[Chip Co-Host]
587
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,240
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
588
00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,520
And speaking of community, we've got

[Chip Co-Host]
589
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,120
all these different sources here touching

[Chip Co-Host]
590
00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:34,680
on all these different aspects of self-directed learning.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,080
Articles, definitions, forum discussions,

[AVA Co-Host]
592
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,200
even that YouTube video about the importance of experiences,

[AVA Co-Host]
593
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,720
it's a lot to process.

[Chip Co-Host]
594
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,680
It is.

[Chip Co-Host]
595
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,480
But I think what's really fascinating

[Chip Co-Host]
596
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,880
is how these ideas are all converging.

[Chip Co-Host]
597
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,040
We've got stuff from education, psychology, even the arts.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,480
It's like a symphony of ideas all harmonizing

[AVA Co-Host]
599
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,240
around this central theme of self-directed learning.

[Chip Co-Host]
600
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,500
I love that analogy.

[Chip Co-Host]
601
00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,080
And what ties it all together, I think,

[Chip Co-Host]
602
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,500
is this emphasis on human potential.

[Chip Co-Host]
603
00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:08,480
This belief that anyone, no matter their background,

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,040
they can achieve amazing things if they take

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,520
charge of their own learning.

[AVA Co-Host]
606
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,720
That's pretty inspiring.

[Chip Co-Host]
607
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,240
It is.

[Chip Co-Host]
608
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,520
It's about breaking down those barriers, those limiting

[Chip Co-Host]
609
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,880
beliefs, empowering individuals.

[Chip Co-Host]
610
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,720
But OK, let's get practical for a second.

[Chip Co-Host]
611
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,800
We've talked about the why, the big picture stuff.

[AVA Co-Host]
612
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:23,280
Right.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,680
Why self-directed learning is so important.

[Chip Co-Host]
614
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,080
But what about the HOW?

[Chip Co-Host]
615
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,640
How do we actually make the most of this approach?

[Chip Co-Host]
616
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,520
What are some concrete tips?

[AVA Co-Host]
617
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,680
Give us the goods.

[Chip Co-Host]
618
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,640
Well, one of the sources we talked about earlier,

[Chip Co-Host]
619
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,760
the one about delegation.

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00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,920
The management article.

[Chip Co-Host]
621
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600
Yeah, that one actually offers some surprising insights

[Chip Co-Host]
622
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,040
that can apply to self-directed learning too.

[AVA Co-Host]
623
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:42,840
Wait, really?

[AVA Co-Host]
624
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,280
I'm not seeing the connection.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,040
It talks about the importance of setting clear expectations,

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,760
providing regular feedback and celebrating successes.

[AVA Co-Host]
627
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,460
OK, but how does that translate to someone

[AVA Co-Host]
628
00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:54,920
who's learning independently?

[AVA Co-Host]
629
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,320
There's no boss, no teacher to give you feedback?

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,060
That's where self-accountability comes in.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:20:00,060 --> 00:20:01,680
You become your own boss in a way.

[AVA Co-Host]
632
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,720
So, you're saying, even though you're learning solo,

[AVA Co-Host]
633
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,400
you should still set deadlines, track your progress,

[AVA Co-Host]
634
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,720
find ways to get feedback on your work.

[Chip Co-Host]
635
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,200
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
636
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,040
Be proactive.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,880
Don't just passively consume information.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,760
Engage with it.

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Apply it.

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00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,600
Put it to the test.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,280
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,960
And as for feedback, there are ways

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,080
to get that even when you're learning on your own.

[Chip Co-Host]
644
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,320
Join online communities.

[Chip Co-Host]
645
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,880
Participate in forums.

[Chip Co-Host]
646
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,200
Maybe share your work with friends, mentors.

[AVA Co-Host]
647
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,560
Ooh, or even just use those online resources

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,440
that give you feedback, like quizzes or practice exercises.

[Chip Co-Host]
649
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,280
There you go.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,000
It's all about being creative, finding what works for you.

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So, we're building our own personalized learning

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ecosystem.

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I like that.

[Chip Co-Host]
654
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:40,720
Yeah.

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00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,840
And I think that's what makes self-directed learning

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00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,440
so exciting.

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It's flexible.

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00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,600
It's adaptable.

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00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,240
You're not limited by someone else's curriculum or teaching

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00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:48,720
style.

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00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,880
You're in the driver's seat.

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00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,280
And that's powerful.

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00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,680
But OK, let's talk about the elephant in the room.

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664
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,000
Procrastination.

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00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,240
We all struggle with it, right?

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00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,160
Oh, tell me about it.

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I'm a pro at procrastination.

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00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,320
But how do you fight it, especially when you're

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00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,200
the one setting the deadlines?

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00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,480
Well, I think the first step is understanding

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00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,600
that procrastination, it's usually

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00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,120
a symptom of something deeper.

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Ooh, deep thoughts.

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00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,600
So, it's not just about being lazy or lacking discipline.

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675
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,320
Right.

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00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,240
It could be fear, anxiety, maybe even perfectionism

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677
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,480
holding you back.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,000
Or sometimes, just not being clear enough about your goals.

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00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000
OK, that makes sense.

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00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,120
So, if you find yourself constantly putting things off,

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00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:28,280
maybe it's time to do some self-reflection,

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00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,920
figure out what's really going on.

[Chip Co-Host]
683
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,520
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
684
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,480
Get to the root of it.

[Chip Co-Host]
685
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,880
Once you understand WOH why you're procrastinating,

[Chip Co-Host]
686
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,680
it's easier to come up with strategies to overcome it.

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00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,560
So, if you're procrastinating because you're

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,600
scared of failing, maybe break that big goal down

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689
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,800
into smaller, less scary steps.

[Chip Co-Host]
690
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,040
There's that bite-sized chunk strategy again.

[AVA Co-Host]
691
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,760
It's a classic for a reason.

[AVA Co-Host]
692
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,400
But what about when you're just plain old distracted,

[AVA Co-Host]
693
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,160
so many things vying for our attention these days?

[AVA Co-Host]
694
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,160
How do you stay focused?

[Chip Co-Host]
695
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040
It's all about creating a distraction-free environment.

[AVA Co-Host]
696
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,600
Easier said than done, right?

[Chip Co-Host]
697
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,400
Well, start by identifying your triggers.

[Chip Co-Host]
698
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,240
What are the things that pull you away from your learning?

[Chip Co-Host]
699
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,760
Social media, email, that endless scroll.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,280
Yes, all of the above.

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00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,760
Once you know what they are, you can start to minimize

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,320
their impact.

[Chip Co-Host]
703
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,720
Turn off notifications.

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00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,080
Put your phone on airplane mode.

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00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,600
Find that quiet space where you can really concentrate.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,960
It's like creating a little sanctuary for your brain.

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00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,240
I like that, yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
708
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,880
And don't be afraid to experiment.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,120
Maybe you need noise-canceling headphones or a white noise

[Chip Co-Host]
710
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:30,880
machine.

[Chip Co-Host]
711
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,640
Whatever helps you get in the zone.

[AVA Co-Host]
712
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,680
It's all about finding what works for you.

[AVA Co-Host]
713
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,360
But speaking of works, how do you actually

[AVA Co-Host]
714
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,760
measure progress in self-directed learning?

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715
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,400
I mean, there's no report card, no grades.

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00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,240
How do you know if you're, like, succeeding?

[Chip Co-Host]
717
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,520
That's a great question.

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718
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,640
And there's no single right answer.

[Chip Co-Host]
719
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,080
But I think it starts with defining

[Chip Co-Host]
720
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,760
what success means to you.

[AVA Co-Host]
721
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,320
So going back to those SMART goals,

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722
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,840
making sure they're measurable.

[Chip Co-Host]
723
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,800
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
724
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,120
If your goal is to learn a new language,

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725
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:03,720
maybe success means being able to have a simple conversation.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,800
OK, that's a good concrete goal.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,280
But what about those goals that are more, like, big picture?

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,080
Like, developing a skill or expanding your knowledge

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,560
in a certain field.

[Chip Co-Host]
730
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,720
It can be harder to measure those, yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
731
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,400
But maybe you could create a portfolio of your work

[Chip Co-Host]
732
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,960
or track your progress over time.

[AVA Co-Host]
733
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,440
So, like, if you're learning to code,

[AVA Co-Host]
734
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,920
you could keep a log of all the projects you've completed,

[AVA Co-Host]
735
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,560
the new languages you've mastered.

[Chip Co-Host]
736
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,120
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
737
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,320
Make your learning visible.

[AVA Co-Host]
738
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,760
It's like creating a map of your learning journey.

[AVA Co-Host]
739
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,880
But even with the best map, there

[AVA Co-Host]
740
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,840
are going to be times when you hit a plateau.

[Chip Co-Host]
741
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,080
Those plateaus, they're a normal part of learning.

[Chip Co-Host]
742
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,680
But they can be so frustrating.

[Chip Co-Host]
743
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,300
It's like you're putting in the effort,

[Chip Co-Host]
744
00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:41,680
but not seeing any results.

[AVA Co-Host]
745
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,320
Totally.

[AVA Co-Host]
746
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,520
It makes you want to give up.

[Chip Co-Host]
747
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,400
I know.

[Chip Co-Host]
748
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,040
But it's important to remember, learning isn't always linear.

[Chip Co-Host]
749
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,280
Some days you'll make huge leaps forward.

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00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,840
Other days, it'll feel like you're barely moving.

[AVA Co-Host]
751
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960
So, it's OK to have those ups and downs.

[Chip Co-Host]
752
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,920
Yeah, it's all part of the process.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,120
The key is not to get discouraged.

[Chip Co-Host]
754
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,960
See those plateaus as an opportunity

[Chip Co-Host]
755
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,320
to reevaluate your approach.

[Chip Co-Host]
756
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,680
Maybe try something new.

[AVA Co-Host]
757
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,040
Get feedback from others.

[Chip Co-Host]
758
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,600
Exactly.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,520
So, embrace the journey, even the bumpy parts.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,400
Because that's where the real growth happens.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,360
OK, let's talk about the long game.

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00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,780
How do you keep that momentum going over time?

[Chip Co-Host]
763
00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:18,600
How do you make self-directed learning a habit, something

[Chip Co-Host]
764
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,880
you do for life?

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,040
Yeah, not just a one-time project.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,160
Well, I think it starts with cultivating

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00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,440
a love of learning, just for the pure joy of it.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,320
Not for a grade, not for a job, just because you love to learn.

[Chip Co-Host]
769
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,960
Right, it's about tapping into that natural curiosity

[Chip Co-Host]
770
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,120
we all have.

[Chip Co-Host]
771
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:37,480
What are you passionate about?

[Chip Co-Host]
772
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,440
What makes you excited to learn more?

[AVA Co-Host]
773
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,080
Follow those passions, those sparks of interest.

[Chip Co-Host]
774
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,360
Yeah, and see where they lead you.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,400
Let your curiosity be your guide.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,940
It's like rediscovering that childlike sense of wonder,

[AVA Co-Host]
777
00:24:49,940 --> 00:24:52,420
seeing learning as an adventure, not a chore.

[Chip Co-Host]
778
00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:53,420
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
779
00:24:53,420 --> 00:24:55,120
And don't be afraid to branch out.

[Chip Co-Host]
780
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:56,360
Try new things.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,640
You never know what might spark a new passion.

[AVA Co-Host]
782
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,400
Or lead you down a totally unexpected path.

[AVA Co-Host]
783
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,640
OK, let's bring it back down to earth for a minute.

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784
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,800
What are some concrete habits or routines

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00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,760
that can help make self-directed learning

[AVA Co-Host]
786
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,560
a sustainable part of our lives?

[Chip Co-Host]
787
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,920
One thing I find super helpful is scheduling dedicated learning

[Chip Co-Host]
788
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,520
time into my week.

[AVA Co-Host]
789
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,000
There's that scheduling word again.

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790
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,720
I knew it.

[Chip Co-Host]
791
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,640
I know, I know.

[Chip Co-Host]
792
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,120
But it really does help.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,200
Treat it like any other important appointment.

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00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,680
Block it out in your calendar.

[AVA Co-Host]
795
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,800
Set reminders.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,040
Make it non-negotiable.

[AVA Co-Host]
797
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,560
But what if you just can't find a big chunk of time

[AVA Co-Host]
798
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,560
to dedicate to learning every week?

[AVA Co-Host]
799
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,480
Life gets busy, you know?

[Chip Co-Host]
800
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,440
Start small.

[Chip Co-Host]
801
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,760
Even 15 minutes a day can add up.

[AVA Co-Host]
802
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,840
It's all about consistency, building that habit.

[Chip Co-Host]
803
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,780
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
804
00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:42,360
And another thing that can help is creating

[Chip Co-Host]
805
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:43,840
a dedicated learning space.

[AVA Co-Host]
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00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,920
Ooh, a learning space.

[AVA Co-Host]
807
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,160
I love that idea.

[AVA Co-Host]
808
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,020
But what if you don't have a lot of room?

[Chip Co-Host]
809
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:51,080
It doesn't have to be anything fancy.

[Chip Co-Host]
810
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,420
A desk, a corner in your living room, even a comfy chair

[Chip Co-Host]
811
00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:55,760
in your favorite coffee shop.

[AVA Co-Host]
812
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,280
It's about having a place where you can focus, right?

[Chip Co-Host]
813
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:58,920
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
814
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,840
A place where you can minimize distractions.

[AVA Co-Host]
815
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,440
A sanctuary for your brain.

[Chip Co-Host]
816
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,240
I love that.

[Chip Co-Host]
817
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,600
But creating that physical space is just one part of it.

[Chip Co-Host]
818
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,920
There's also the mental side.

[AVA Co-Host]
819
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,780
Right.

[AVA Co-Host]
820
00:26:08,780 --> 00:26:12,000
How do you stay motivated when you're the one in charge?

[Chip Co-Host]
821
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,400
That's where realistic expectations come in.

[AVA Co-Host]
822
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520
OK, what does that mean in the context

[AVA Co-Host]
823
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,080
of self-directed learning?

[Chip Co-Host]
824
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,360
It's about being kind to yourself,

[Chip Co-Host]
825
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,760
recognizing that learning takes time.

[AVA Co-Host]
826
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,920
We're not all going to become experts overnight.

[Chip Co-Host]
827
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,440
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
828
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,200
Celebrate those small wins.

[Chip Co-Host]
829
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,280
Don't beat yourself up when you make mistakes.

[AVA Co-Host]
830
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Mistakes are just learning opportunities in disguise.

[Chip Co-Host]
831
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,840
Exactly.

[AVA Co-Host]
832
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,200
It's about enjoying the journey, not just

[AVA Co-Host]
833
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,160
focusing on the destination.

[Chip Co-Host]
834
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,960
And remember, you don't have to do this alone.

[Chip Co-Host]
835
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,760
Reach out for support when you need it.

[Chip Co-Host]
836
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,200
Connect with other learners.

[Chip Co-Host]
837
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,240
Find a mentor.

[AVA Co-Host]
838
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,920
Community is everything.

[Chip Co-Host]
839
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,280
It really is.

[Chip Co-Host]
840
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,160
Sharing your learning journey with others

[Chip Co-Host]
841
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,360
can make it so much more enjoyable.

[Chip Co-Host]
842
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,160
But we've talked about a lot of practical stuff today.

[Chip Co-Host]
843
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,720
Goal setting, active recall, finding resources,

[Chip Co-Host]
844
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,720
building community.

[AVA Co-Host]
845
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,120
Our brains are full.

[Chip Co-Host]
846
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:01,200
I know, right?

[Chip Co-Host]
847
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,040
But I want to end this part of our deep dive

[Chip Co-Host]
848
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,480
with a slightly bigger question.

[Chip Co-Host]
849
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,840
What does it all mean?

[Chip Co-Host]
850
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,440
Why should we even care about this self-directed learning

[Chip Co-Host]
851
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:09,920
stuff?

[AVA Co-Host]
852
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,800
Ooh, getting philosophical.

[Chip Co-Host]
853
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,680
I think it goes beyond just like learning a new skill

[Chip Co-Host]
854
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,880
or getting a better job.

[AVA Co-Host]
855
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,040
It's about something bigger.

[Chip Co-Host]
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00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,120
It's about developing this mindset of lifelong learning.

[AVA Co-Host]
857
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:21,880
Always growing, always evolving.

[Chip Co-Host]
858
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,080
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
859
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,280
And in a world that's changing so fast.

[AVA Co-Host]
860
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,440
Where technology is constantly advancing,

[AVA Co-Host]
861
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,120
new jobs are emerging.

[Chip Co-Host]
862
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:32,240
The ability to learn and adapt, that's more valuable than ever.

[Chip Co-Host]
863
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,480
Self-directed learning gives you that power.

[AVA Co-Host]
864
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,680
The power to shape your own future.

[Chip Co-Host]
865
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,240
And that's a powerful thing.

[Chip Co-Host]
866
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,880
Imagine a world where everyone embraced that idea.

[AVA Co-Host]
867
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,160
A world where everyone embraces that power

[AVA Co-Host]
868
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,200
to learn to shape their own future.

[AVA Co-Host]
869
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,720
I like that.

[Chip Co-Host]
870
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,400
It's a powerful vision.

[Chip Co-Host]
871
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,600
A world where curiosity is celebrated.

[AVA Co-Host]
872
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,880
Where learning is just woven into everyday life,

[AVA Co-Host]
873
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,440
not just something you do in school.

[Chip Co-Host]
874
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,080
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
875
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,200
Lifelong learning.

[Chip Co-Host]
876
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600
And honestly, I think we're getting closer to that vision.

[AVA Co-Host]
877
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,200
Really?

[AVA Co-Host]
878
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,920
You think so?

[Chip Co-Host]
879
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,760
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
880
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,280
Think about all the tools and resources we have now.

[Chip Co-Host]
881
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,480
The internet has made information so much more

[Chip Co-Host]
882
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,080
accessible.

[AVA Co-Host]
883
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,840
True.

[AVA Co-Host]
884
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,840
Online courses, open-source textbooks, virtual communities.

[AVA Co-Host]
885
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,680
It's mind boggling, the amount of stuff out there.

[Chip Co-Host]
886
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,240
It really is.

[Chip Co-Host]
887
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,680
The possibilities are limitless.

[AVA Co-Host]
888
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,320
But OK, that can also be a problem, right?

[AVA Co-Host]
889
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,400
Too many options.

[AVA Co-Host]
890
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,240
It's overwhelming.

[AVA Co-Host]
891
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,720
How do you even know where to start?

[Chip Co-Host]
892
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600
That's where community comes in.

[AVA Co-Host]
893
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,680
Yes, our trusty community.

[Chip Co-Host]
894
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,520
It's not just about accessing information.

[Chip Co-Host]
895
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,320
It's about connecting with other learners.

[AVA Co-Host]
896
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,080
People who share your passions, who

[AVA Co-Host]
897
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,880
can push you to be better.

[Chip Co-Host]
898
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,520
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
899
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,400
They challenge you.

[Chip Co-Host]
900
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,120
They support you.

[Chip Co-Host]
901
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,200
They inspire you.

[AVA Co-Host]
902
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Community is key.

[AV Co-Host]
903
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,480
But how do you actually build that support network?

[AVA Co-Host]
904
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,000
Where do you find these awesome learning buddies?

[Chip Co-Host]
905
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,520
Well, online forums and communities,

[Chip Co-Host]
906
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,840
those are a great place to start.

[AVA Co-Host]
907
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Oh, yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
908
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,520
The online rabbit holes.

[AVA Co-Host]
909
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,200
I've lost many hours in those.

[AVA Co-Host]
910
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,240
But I've also met some amazing people,

[AVA Co-Host]
911
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,680
discovered resources I never would have found on my own.

[Chip Co-Host]
912
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,040
It's incredible how the internet can bring people together,

[Chip Co-Host]
913
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,240
right, around shared interests, no matter

[Chip Co-Host]
914
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,720
where they are in the world.

[Chip Co-Host]
915
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,400
And those online spaces can be a real source of support.

[AVA Co-Host]
916
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,880
A sense of belonging.

[Chip Co-Host]
917
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,960
Yeah, and a place to ask questions, share resources,

[Chip Co-Host]
918
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,560
get feedback on your work.

[AVA Co-Host]
919
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,920
Like having a global network of study buddies.

[Chip Co-Host]
920
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,120
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
921
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,960
But don't limit yourself to the online world.

[Chip Co-Host]
922
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,360
There's also your local community.

[AVA Co-Host]
923
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:21,880
Right.

[AVA Co-Host]
924
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,240
Libraries, community centers, adult education programs.

[Chip Co-Host]
925
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,640
All kinds of opportunities to explore new things

[Chip Co-Host]
926
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,640
and meet people who are on that same learning journey.

[AVA Co-Host]
927
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,080
Libraries are the best.

[AVA Co-Host]
928
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,120
Such a wealth of knowledge, and usually for free.

[AVA Co-Host]
929
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,840
And those adult ed courses, those can be fun.

[Chip Co-Host]
930
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,680
They are.

[Chip Co-Host]
931
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,640
A great way to step outside your comfort zone,

[Chip Co-Host]
932
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,800
try something new.

[AVA Co-Host]
933
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,520
And speaking of stepping outside your comfort zone,

[AVA Co-Host]
934
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,160
what about mentorship?

[AVA Co-Host]
935
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,480
Finding someone who's like already achieved

[AVA Co-Host]
936
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,880
what you want to achieve.

[Chip Co-Host]
937
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,840
Mentorship can be so valuable.

[AVA Co-Host]
938
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,680
But how do you even find a mentor?

[AVA Co-Host]
939
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,200
It seems kind of intimidating.

[Chip Co-Host]
940
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,320
It can be.

[Chip Co-Host]
941
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,200
But I think the best way is to start

[Chip Co-Host]
942
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,600
with your existing network.

[AVA Co-Host]
943
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,040
OK, so look around, see who you already know.

[Chip Co-Host]
944
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,640
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
945
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Think about people who work in fields that interest you,

[Chip Co-Host]
946
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,560
or who have skills you'd like to develop.

[Chip Co-Host]
947
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,360
Reach out to them, have a conversation.

[AVA Co-Host]
948
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,600
You never know who might be willing to share

[AVA Co-Host]
949
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,080
their knowledge and experience.

[Chip Co-Host]
950
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,580
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
951
00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:18,360
And mentorship doesn't have to be this formal thing.

[Chip Co-Host]
952
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,440
Sometimes the best learning happens organically

[Chip Co-Host]
953
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,120
through those casual conversations

[Chip Co-Host]
954
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,160
with people you admire.

[AVA Co-Host]
955
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,880
Just soaking up their wisdom.

[AVA Co-Host]
956
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,160
Be a sponge.

[AVA Co-Host]
957
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,720
But OK, let's say you've found a mentor.

[AVA Co-Host]
958
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,320
You've joined some online communities.

[AVA Co-Host]
959
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,800
You're taking a course at the local library.

[AVA Co-Host]
960
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,120
What's the key to making those connections really count?

[AVA Co-Host]
961
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000
How do you make sure you're getting the most out of them?

[Chip Co-Host]
962
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,960
I think it comes down to cultivating those qualities

[Chip Co-Host]
963
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,000
of a good learner.

[AVA Co-Host]
964
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,320
OK, what does that look like?

[Chip Co-Host]
965
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,400
Be humble.

[Chip Co-Host]
966
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Be curious.

[Chip Co-Host]
967
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,200
And be willing to contribute.

[AVA Co-Host]
968
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,920
Humility, curiosity, and generosity.

[Chip Co-Host]
969
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,920
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
970
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,040
Approach those relationships with a genuine desire to learn,

[Chip Co-Host]
971
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,200
but also, be ready to share your own knowledge and insights.

[Chip Co-Host]
972
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,280
It's a two-way street.

[AVA Co-Host]
973
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:00,920
I love that.

[AVA Co-Host]
974
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,040
Everyone has something to teach and something to learn.

[AVA Co-Host]
975
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,720
OK, we've covered a lot of ground in this deep dive.

[AVA Co-Host]
976
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Strategies, resources, the importance of community.

[Chip Co-Host]
977
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,200
We even got a little philosophical there

[Chip Co-Host]
978
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,720
for a minute.

[AVA Co-Host]
979
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,280
We did.

[AVA Co-Host]
980
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,760
But before we wrap things up, I want

[AVA Co-Host]
981
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,880
to circle back to that bigger question.

[AVA Co-Host]
982
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,120
What's the point of all this?

[AVA Co-Host]
983
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,000
Why is self-directed learning so important?

[Chip Co-Host]
984
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,880
You know, I think it goes way beyond just acquiring

[Chip Co-Host]
985
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,200
knowledge or skills.

[Chip Co-Host]
986
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,560
It's about developing this mindset,

[Chip Co-Host]
987
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,400
a mindset of lifelong learning, always growing, always

[Chip Co-Host]
988
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:30,960
evolving.

[AVA Co-Host]
989
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,920
It's about recognizing that learning isn't just

[AVA Co-Host]
990
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,920
something we do in school.

[AVA Co-Host]
991
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,080
It's a part of who we are as humans.

[Chip Co-Host]
992
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
993
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,000
And I truly believe that this mindset

[Chip Co-Host]
994
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,840
is essential for navigating this crazy, ever-changing world

[Chip Co-Host]
995
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,340
we live in.

[AVA Co-Host]
996
00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:46,160
The jobs of tomorrow, they might not even exist today.

[Chip Co-Host]
997
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:46,760
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
998
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,920
The skills we need, they're always evolving.

[Chip Co-Host]
999
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,320
So, we have to be adaptable.

[AVA Co-Host]
1000
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,320
Always learning, always growing.

[Chip Co-Host]
1001
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,480
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
1002
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Self-directed learning, it gives you the tools

[Chip Co-Host]
1003
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,360
to take control, to shape your own future.

[AVA Co-Host]
1004
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,480
Be the architect of your own life.

[Chip Co-Host]
1005
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,400
Yes.

[Chip Co-Host]
1006
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,920
Design your own learning path.

[Chip Co-Host]
1007
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Build the future you want to see.

[Chip Co-Host]
1008
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,600
And I think that's something worth striving for.

[AVA Co-Host]
1009
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,240
I agree.

[AVA Co-Host]
1010
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,000
It's a vision that gives me hope, a world where everyone

[AVA Co-Host]
1011
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,640
has that opportunity to learn, to grow,

[AVA Co-Host]
1012
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,280
to reach their full potential.

[Chip Co-Host]
1013
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,320
It's a beautiful thing.

[AVA Co-Host]
1014
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,240
It is.

[AVA Co-Host]
1015
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,880
Well, today, we're going all in on video.

[AVA Co-Host]
1016
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Oh, yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
1017
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,120
You got it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1018
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,400
We're talking Handbrake, this open-source video tool.

[AVA Co-Host]
1019
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Seems like it's caught your eye.

[Chip Co-Host]
1020
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,800
I've seen it around.

[AVA Co-Host]
1021
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,280
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
1022
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,920
People are comparing it to other software.

[AVA Co-Host]
1023
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,320
So obviously, something's got everyone buzzing

[AVA Co-Host]
1024
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,480
about this Handbrake thing.

[Chip Co-Host]
1025
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,800
Definitely piques some interest.

[AVA Co-Host]
1026
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Our mission, should we choose to accept it,

[AVA Co-Host]
1027
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,800
is to figure out what exactly makes Handbrake so special.

[Chip Co-Host]
1028
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Sounds like a plan.

[AVA Co-Host]
1029
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Why is everyone so excited about it being free?

[Chip Co-Host]
1030
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,040
The price is definitely right.

[AVA Co-Host]
1031
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
1032
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,120
And most importantly, how can it be like a secret weapon

[AVA Co-Host]
1033
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,680
for our listeners out there, especially

[AVA Co-Host]
1034
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,800
if they're running a small business,

[AVA Co-Host]
1035
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,040
or maybe they've got a startup, or if they just

[AVA Co-Host]
1036
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,240
love learning new things like we do?

[Chip Co-Host]
1037
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Always up for something new.

[AVA Co-Host]
1038
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,520
So, what's the deal with Handbrake?

[Chip Co-Host]
1039
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,880
Well, all this excitement about Handbrake,

[Chip Co-Host]
1040
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,080
it's totally justified.

[Chip Co-Host]
1041
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,520
It's a powerful tool, lets you change those video files,

[Chip Co-Host]
1042
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,240
pretty much any format you can think of.

[AVA Co-Host]
1043
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,040
No way.

[Chip Co-Host]
1044
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,480
Into something you can actually use.

[Chip Co-Host]
1045
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,920
And you're right, totally free.

[AVA Co-Host]
1046
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,320
OK, so free is always good.

[AVA Co-Host]
1047
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,720
But you know me.

[Chip Co-Host]
1048
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,520
A little skeptical.

[AVA Co-Host]
1049
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,240
I got to ask, is there a catch?

[AVA Co-Host]
1050
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Are there like limitations, or maybe they've

[AVA Co-Host]
1051
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,200
got features hidden behind, like a paywall or something?

[Chip Co-Host]
1052
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,440
Nope, no catch.

[Chip Co-Host]
1053
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Handbrake is really, truly free.

[Chip Co-Host]
1054
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,840
No strings attached.

[Chip Co-Host]
1055
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,440
It's a total game changer for anyone, really,

[Chip Co-Host]
1056
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,200
who wants to make high quality videos without breaking

[Chip Co-Host]
1057
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,240
the bank on software.

[AVA Co-Host]
1058
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,680
That's massive.

[AVA Co-Host]
1059
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,400
Especially for like small businesses,

[AVA Co-Host]
1060
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,840
or if you're just starting out.

[AVA Co-Host]
1061
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,040
Imagine making those professional looking videos

[AVACo-Host]
1062
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,040
without like the crazy software costs.

[AVA Co-Host]
1063
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,320
That's a huge win, right?

[Chip Co-Host]
1064
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,240
Absolutely.

[AVA Co-Host]
1065
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,740
OK, so in the stuff you sent, a lot of people

[AVA Co-Host]
1066
00:33:55,740 --> 00:33:58,640
are comparing Handbrake to this FFMPEG thing.

[AVA Co-Host]
1067
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,240
What is that?

[AVA Co-Host]
1068
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,800
Is that another video tool?

[Chip Co-Host]
1069
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,320
It is.

[AVA Co-Host]
1070
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:01,800
Oh, OK.

[Chip Co-Host]
1071
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Think of FFMPEG, like the ultimate video editing

[Chip Co-Host]
1072
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,920
powerhouse.

[AVA Co-Host]
1073
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,760
Wow.

[Chip Co-Host]
1074
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Incredibly powerful and flexible.

[Chip Co-Host]
1075
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,520
I mean, you can do almost anything

[Chip Co-Host]
1076
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,920
you can dream up with video.

[AVA Co-Host]
1077
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,420
No kidding?

[Chip Co-Host]
1078
00:34:12,420 --> 00:34:14,080
But here's the thing.

[Chip Co-Host]
1079
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,840
FFMPEG is command line based, meaning no fancy buttons,

[Chip Co-Host]
1080
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,800
no menus, it's all code.

[AVA Co-Host]
1081
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,960
So, you've got to be like a coding wizard.

[Chip Co-Host]
1082
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Pretty much.

[Chip Co-Host]
1083
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,720
You need to know how to code to really use it well.

[AVA Co-Host]
1084
00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:30,680
So basically, Handbrake is the user-friendly version, right?

[AVA Co-Host]
1085
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,880
For those of us who aren't exactly coding ninjas.

[Chip Co-Host]
1086
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,000
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
1087
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,760
Handbrake has this simple visual interface,

[Chip Co-Host]
1088
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,320
easy for anyone to use, even if you're a total beginner.

[Chip Co-Host]
1089
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,680
Think of it like this.

[Chip Co-Host]
1090
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,080
If Handbrake is like a Swiss army knife for video editing.

[AVA Co-Host]
1091
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,160
OK, I like that.

[Chip Co-Host]
1092
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,600
FFMPEG is like a whole workshop full of specialized tools.

[AVA Co-Host]
1093
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,520
Oh, wow.

[Chip Co-Host]
1094
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,640
Both have their uses.

[Chip Co-Host]
1095
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,160
It just depends, what you need and how much experience

[Chip Co-Host]
1096
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:55,600
you have.

[AVA Co-Host]
1097
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,600
That makes a lot of sense.

[AVA Co-Host]
1098
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,060
It sounds like Handbrake really strikes that balance, though,

[AVA Co-Host]
1099
00:34:59,060 --> 00:35:01,280
between being powerful and easy to use.

[AVA Co-Host]
1100
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,940
But one thing that really stood out to me

[AVA Co-Host]
1101
00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:05,400
from all this stuff you sent, Handbrake's not just

[AVA Co-Host]
1102
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,880
about converting video formats.

[AVA Co-Host]
1103
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,200
There's way more to it, isn't there?

[Chip Co-Host]
1104
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:08,680
Oh, absolutely.

[AVA Co-Host]
1105
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,400
Like, what's going on under the hood?

[Chip Co-Host]
1106
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,080
One of Handbrake's best features, video compression.

[Chip Co-Host]
1107
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,080
It can take these huge video files

[Chip Co-Host]
1108
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480
and make them smaller, more manageable,

[Chip Co-Host]
1109
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,560
and it doesn't sacrifice too much quality.

[AVA Co-Host]
1110
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,880
So that's how people get those videos onto YouTube

[AVA Co-Host]
1111
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,560
or share them online without it taking forever to load.

[Chip Co-Host]
1112
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,600
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
1113
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,560
And it's not just about shrinking file sizes.

[Chip Co-Host]
1114
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,840
Handbrake can also optimize videos.

[AVA Co-Host]
1115
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,480
What do you mean?

[Chip Co-Host]
1116
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,520
They can make them look their best on specific devices,

[Chip Co-Host]
1117
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,200
like your smartphone or tablet or even

[Chip Co-Host]
1118
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,720
on a streaming platform.

[Chip Co-Host]
1119
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,800
And they've got these things called presets,

[Chip Co-Host]
1120
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,360
which are pre-configured settings for all kinds

[Chip Co-Host]
1121
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,480
of different situations.

[Chip Co-Host]
1122
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,240
Presets!

[AVA Co-Host]
1123
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,720
So, it's like having a video expert whispering in your ear,

[AVA Co-Host]
1124
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,000
like, hey, use these settings.

[AVA Co-Host]
1125
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,800
They're going to work great.

[Chip Co-Host]
1126
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,400
Exactly.

[AVA Co-Host]
1127
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,880
But what about those of us who like to tinker a bit,

[AVA Co-Host]
1128
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,720
have more control over things?

[AVA Co-Host]
1129
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,280
Does Handbrake let you do that?

[Chip Co-Host]
1130
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,000
Absolutely.

[Chip Co-Host]
1131
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,400
The presets are great if you want

[Chip Co-Host]
1132
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,800
to do things quick and easy.

[Chip Co-Host]
1133
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,840
But Handbrake also gives you total control.

[Chip Co-Host]
1134
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,360
You can dive into those nitty gritty settings,

[Chip Co-Host]
1135
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,400
like resolution, frame rate, and codecs if you want.

[AVA Co-Host]
1136
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:10,880
OK.

[AVA Co-Host]
1137
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,480
Now we're talking.

[AVA Co-Host]
1138
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Some of those terms, though, they're

[AVA Co-Host]
1139
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,440
a bit technical for me.

[AVA Co-Host]
1140
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,720
How does Handbrake actually make videos look good,

[AVA Co-Host]
1141
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,320
for those of us who aren't tech wizards?

[Chip Co-Host]
1142
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Sure, sure.

[Chip Co-Host]
1143
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,120
Let's start with resolution.

[Chip Co-Host]
1144
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,240
That's basically how many pixels are in your video.

[Chip Co-Host]
1145
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,880
More pixels, more detail, more sharpness.

[AVA Co-Host]
1146
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,400
Gotcha.

[Chip Co-Host]
1147
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,040
Then there's frame rate, which is

[Chip Co-Host]
1148
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,840
how smooth the motion looks, and codecs.

[Chip Co-Host]
1149
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,280
Well, those are like the language

[Chip Co-Host]
1150
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,160
your computer uses to understand and play video.

[Chip Co-Host]
1151
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,880
The cool thing about Handbrake is

[Chip Co-Host]
1152
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,160
that it takes all this complex tech stuff

[Chip Co-Host]
1153
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,160
and makes it simple.

[Chip Co-Host]
1154
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,200
You don't need to be a video engineer to use it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1155
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,680
That's good to hear.

[AVA Co-Host]
1156
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,360
So, Handbrake translates our creative vision

[AVA Co-Host]
1157
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,160
into a language that our devices can understand.

[AVA Co-Host]
1158
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,160
That's pretty awesome.

[Chip Co-Host]
1159
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:54,960
It is.

[Chip Co-Host]
1160
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960
And one example that shows how powerful Handbrake can be

[Chip Co-Host]
1161
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,200
is how it uses something called a rate factor.

[AVA Co-Host]
1162
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,160
OK, yeah, I saw that in some of those articles.

[AVA Co-Host]
1163
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,920
What's so special about this rate factor?

[Chip Co-Host]
1164
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,920
It manages the balance between quality and file size.

[Chip Co-Host]
1165
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Imagine shrinking a 2GB video file down to 500 milli beat

[Chip Co-Host]
1166
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,240
using a rate factor of 23.

[Chip Co-Host]
1167
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:18,000
People watching wouldn't even notice a difference in quality.

[Chip Co-Host]
1168
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,120
That's the kind of magic Handbrake can do.

[AVA Co-Host]
1169
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Hold on.

[AVA Co-Host]
1170
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,240
So, I can make my videos a lot smaller,

[AVA Co-Host]
1171
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,840
but the quality stays good?

[AVA Co-Host]
1172
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,840
That changes everything.

[Chip Co-Host]
1173
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,680
It's pretty incredible.

[Chip Co-Host]
1174
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,120
And that's one of the many reasons

[Chip Co-Host]
1175
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,440
Handbrake has become so popular.

[Chip Co-Host]
1176
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,560
It gives you so much control over your videos,

[Chip Co-Host]
1177
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,000
but without all the complexity.

[AVA Co-Host]
1178
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,560
Wow, OK.

[AVA Co-Host]
1179
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,320
Shrinking a 2GB file down to 500 millibeat

[AVA Co-Host]
1180
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,640
and keeping the quality?

[Chip Co-Host]
1181
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,140
Yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
1182
00:37:38,140 --> 00:37:39,840
That's like some serious video voodoo.

[Chip Co-Host]
1183
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,120
That's impressive.

[AVA Co-Host]
1184
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,360
But let's back up for a sec.

[AVA Co-Host]
1185
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,120
Tell me more about this rate factor thing.

[AVA Co-Host]
1186
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,680
It sounds like a secret weapon for video ninjas.

[Chip Co-Host]
1187
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,280
It's definitely one of Handbrake's most powerful

[Chip Co-Host]
1188
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:48,800
features.

[AVA Co-Host]
1189
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,320
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
1190
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,880
The rate factor, or RF for short,

[Chip Co-Host]
1191
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,440
it controls how much Handbrake compresses your video.

[Chip Co-Host]
1192
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,480
And remember, compression, it's all

[Chip Co-Host]
1193
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,400
about finding that sweet spot.

[Chip Co-Host]
1194
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,920
Reducing file size without killing the quality.

[AVA Co-Host]
1195
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,420
Right.

[AVA Co-Host]
1196
00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:04,420
Because nobody wants to watch a video that looks

[AVA Co-Host]
1197
00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:07,280
like it was filmed on a potato, even if it loads super fast.

[Chip Co-Host]
1198
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,920
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
1199
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,040
And that's where RF comes in.

[Chip Co-Host]
1200
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,360
It gives you super fine control.

[AVA Co-Host]
1201
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Oh, OK.

[Chip Co-Host]
1202
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,680
A lower RF value means you get less compression.

[Chip Co-Host]
1203
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,200
So, you get a higher quality video,

[Chip Co-Host]
1204
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,600
but the file size is going to be bigger.

[AVA Co-Host]
1205
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,960
So, lower RF is kind of like when you

[AVA Co-Host]
1206
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,440
pick that high quality setting on a streaming service, right?

[AVA Co-Host]
1207
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
And then higher RF is like data saver mode.

[Chip Co-Host]
1208
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,080
That's a great way to think about it.

[Chip Co-Host]
1209
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,200
And with Handbrake, you get to choose.

[Chip Co-Host]
1210
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,280
Pick the perfect RF value for whatever you're doing.

[Chip Co-Host]
1211
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,320
Remember that example, RF of 23?

[AVA Co-Host]
1212
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,760
Yeah, the one that's supposed to be the best of both worlds.

[AVA Co-Host]
1213
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,080
Smaller file, but you don't lose much quality.

[Chip Co-Host]
1214
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
1215
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,080
It's a popular choice for a reason.

[AVA Co-Host]
1216
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,580
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
1217
00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:45,880
But the cool thing about Handbrake

[Chip Co-Host]
1218
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,320
is you can play around with different RF values.

[AVA Co-Host]
1219
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,200
Oh, cool.

[Chip Co-Host]
1220
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,680
See what works best for your videos.

[AVA Co-Host]
1221
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,240
I like that.

[AVA Co-Host]
1222
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,000
OK, so let's say I'm making a video for my website.

[AVA Co-Host]
1223
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Quality's super important there.

[Chip Co-Host]
1224
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,180
Right.

[AVA Co-Host]
1225
00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:58,360
So, I might use a lower RF.

[AVA Co-Host]
1226
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,360
But if I'm just sharing a quick tip or something

[AVA Co-Host]
1227
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,840
on social media, I could crank that RF up,

[AVA Co-Host]
1228
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,600
keep the file size small so it uploads faster.

[Chip Co-Host]
1229
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,560
You got it.

[Chip Co-Host]
1230
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,100
That's what's so great about Handbrake.

[Chip Co-Host]
1231
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,760
That doesn't limit you.

[Chip Co-Host]
1232
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Gives you that freedom to experiment, you know?

[AVA Co-Host]
1233
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,320
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
1234
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,520
Learn, create those videos that are perfect for what you need.

[AVA Co-Host]
1235
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,600
I love having that control.

[AVA Co-Host]
1236
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,760
But OK, full disclosure, I'm still a little lost

[AVA Co-Host]
1237
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,880
on the whole codec thing.

[Chip Co-Host]
1238
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Ah, codecs.

[AVA Co-Host]
1239
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,880
Yeah, it sounds kind of intimidating.

[Chip Co-Host]
1240
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,880
It seems that way, but they're really not that bad.

[Chip Co-Host]
1241
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Think of a codec, like a translator for your video.

[Chip Co-Host]
1242
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,000
It takes the raw video data and compresses it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1243
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,500
OK.

[Chip Co-Host]
1244
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:36,920
Puts it into a format that your computer or your device

[Chip Co-Host]
1245
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,920
can understand so it can play it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1246
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,840
So, it's like the language of video.

[Chip Co-Host]
1247
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,340
Yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
1248
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:44,160
And different devices speak different video languages.

[Chip Co-Host]
1249
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,240
We got it.

[Chip Co-Host]
1250
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,560
And there are so many different video codecs out there.

[AVA Co-Host]
1251
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,060
Really?

[Chip Co-Host]
1252
00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:50,000
Each one has its pros and cons.

[Chip Co-Host]
1253
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,600
Some are good at squeezing the video down.

[AVA Co-Host]
1254
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,200
OK.

[Chip Co-Host]
1255
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,680
Some are better at keeping the quality high.

[Chip Co-Host]
1256
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,360
And some are just more widely used.

[Chip Co-Host]
1257
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,520
They work with more devices.

[AVA Co-Host]
1258
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,600
That makes sense.

[AVA Co-Host]
1259
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,560
But how do we know which codec to use?

[AVA Co-Host]
1260
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Does Handbrake help us with that?

[Chip Co-Host]
1261
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,280
Oh, totally.

[Chip Co-Host]
1262
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,160
Handbrake is like a multilingual video expert.

[Chip Co-Host]
1263
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,800
Supports a huge range of codecs.

[Chip Co-Host]
1264
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,240
And it can even suggest the best one for you.

[Chip Co-Host]
1265
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:18,080
And you guessed it, those handy presets we keep talking about.

[Chip Co-Host]
1266
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,200
They usually have the right codec already picked out.

[AVA Co-Host]
1267
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,960
Those presets are like little life rafts in this sea

[AVA Co-Host]
1268
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,400
of video tech.

[AVA Co-Host]
1269
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,760
So, let's say I'm making a video for YouTube.

[AVA Co-Host]
1270
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Handbrake will automatically pick a codec

[AVA Co-Host]
1271
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,400
that plays nice with YouTube.

[Chip Co-Host]
1272
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:31,920
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
1273
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,500
It takes care of all the technical stuff

[Chip Co-Host]
1274
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:35,680
behind the scenes so you don't have to worry about it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1275
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,240
Awesome.

[AVA Co-Host]
1276
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,760
This is starting to make sense now.

[AVA Co-Host]
1277
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,080
Are there any codecs that are super popular or really

[AVA Co-Host]
1278
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,840
versatile ones that we should keep in mind?

[Chip Co-Host]
1279
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,120
That's a good question.

[Chip Co-Host]
1280
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,560
There are definitely some big names in the codec world

[Chip Co-Host]
1281
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,760
that you'll see a lot.

[Chip Co-Host]
1282
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,840
One is H.264, also called ADC.

[Chip Co-Host]
1283
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,400
It's a good balance of quality and file size.

[Chip Co-Host]
1284
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,320
And it's pretty much compatible with everything.

[Chip Co-Host]
1285
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,120
It's the go-to for videos online,

[Chip Co-Host]
1286
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,520
or if you're playing them on a bunch of different devices.

[AVA Co-Host]
1287
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,440
H.2654, I've seen that one around.

[AVA Co-Host]
1288
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,480
What else is there?

[Chip Co-Host]
1289
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,440
Another popular one is HEVC, which is also called H.265.

[Chip Co-Host]
1290
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,280
It's newer.

[Chip Co-Host]
1291
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,000
And it gives you even better compression than H.264.

[AVA Co-Host]
1292
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,680
Really?

[Chip Co-Host]
1293
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,320
You can get smaller files and still keep the quality high.

[AVA Co-Host]
1294
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,120
Smaller files, better quality.

[AVA Co-Host]
1295
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,960
HEVC sounds like a winner.

[AVA Co-Host]
1296
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,800
Is there a downside?

[Chip Co-Host]
1297
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,040
The main thing is it's not as widely supported as H.264.

[AVA Co-Host]
1298
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,040
Oh, OK.

[Chip Co-Host]
1299
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,320
Especially on older devices.

[AVA Co-Host]
1300
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:28,800
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
1301
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,920
But newer devices and streaming platforms

[Chip Co-Host]
1302
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,240
are using it more and more because it's so efficient.

[AVA Co-Host]
1303
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,320
So, if I want everyone to be able to watch my video no matter

[AVA Co-Host]
1304
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,760
what device they're using, H.264 is probably the safer bet.

[Chip Co-Host]
1305
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,260
Probably.

[AVA Co-Host]
1306
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:45,120
But if I'm going for the best quality and small file sizes,

[AVA Co-Host]
1307
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,880
and I know my audience has the latest gadgets,

[AVA Co-Host]
1308
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,960
then HEVC is the way to go.

[Chip Co-Host]
1309
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,840
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
1310
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,240
And of course, Handbrake can handle both of these codecs.

[Chip Co-Host]
1311
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:55,160
It even has presets for them, so you don't even

[Chip Co-Host]
1312
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,240
have to think about it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1313
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:57,040
This is great.

[AVA Co-Host]
1314
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,400
I feel like we're cracking the code video here.

[Chip Co-Host]
1315
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,200
Oh, getting there.

[AVA Co-Host]
1316
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,040
But I'm realizing we've been so deep in the technical stuff.

[AVA Co-Host]
1317
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,200
We haven't really talked about how all this applies

[AVA Co-Host]
1318
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,720
to different people.

[AVA Co-Host]
1319
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,400
How can they use Handbrake in their own lives?

[Chip Co-Host]
1320
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,320
Yeah, let's bring it back to our listeners.

[Chip Co-Host]
1321
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,360
Show them how Handbrake can help them.

[Chip Co-Host]
1322
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,440
So, let's switch gears and talk about some real world

[Chip Co-Host]
1323
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,240
situations.

[AVA Co-Host]
1324
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:20,880
Love it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1325
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Let's start with small businesses.

[Chip Co-Host]
1326
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,280
OK.

[AVA Co-Host]
1327
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,600
How can Handbrake help them make awesome videos, ones

[AVA Co-Host]
1328
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,080
that can compete with those big budget productions?

[Chip Co-Host]
1329
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,720
That's where Handbrake really shines.

[AVA Co-Host]
1330
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:32,280
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
1331
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,200
Imagine you're a small business owner, right?

[AVA Co-Host]
1332
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:34,760
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
1333
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,400
You don't have a ton of resources.

[Chip Co-Host]
1334
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,080
You want to make those cool marketing videos, product demos,

[Chip Co-Host]
1335
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,800
maybe even online courses, attract new customers,

[Chip Co-Host]
1336
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,880
grow your business.

[AVA Co-Host]
1337
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,480
Right, but those fancy video editing programs,

[AVA Co-Host]
1338
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,320
they can cost a fortune.

[AVA Co-Host]
1339
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,040
And hiring a whole production crew,

[AVA Co-Host]
1340
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,240
that's just not realistic for a lot of small businesses.

[Chip Co-Host]
1341
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:54,200
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
1342
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,000
And that's where Handbrake comes in.

[Chip Co-Host]
1343
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,560
You can make those professional looking videos

[Chip Co-Host]
1344
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,120
without spending a ton of money.

[AVA Co-Host]
1345
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,880
Wow.

[Chip Co-Host]
1346
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,280
Convert your existing videos to different formats,

[Chip Co-Host]
1347
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,640
compress them so they're easy to share online.

[AVA Co-Host]
1348
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,140
OK.

[Chip Co-Host]
1349
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:09,040
Even optimize them for different social media platforms.

[AVA Co-Host]
1350
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600
So, you could take a video you shot on your phone,

[AVA Co-Host]
1351
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,720
make it look amazing in Handbrake,

[AVA Co-Host]
1352
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,640
and suddenly you've got this super engaging marketing video.

[Chip Co-Host]
1353
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Exactly.

[Chip Co-Host]
1354
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,840
And it's so easy to use.

[Chip Co-Host]
1355
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,320
You don't need any special skills to get great results.

[AVA Co-Host]
1356
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,120
That's so cool.

[AVA Co-Host]
1357
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,240
It's like leveling the playing field, right?

[AVA Co-Host]
1358
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,720
Small businesses can compete with the big guys

[AVA Co-Host]
1359
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,040
without going broke.

[Chip Co-Host]
1360
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:28,920
It is.

[Chip Co-Host]
1361
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,800
And it's not just marketing videos.

[Chip Co-Host]
1362
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,520
Handbrake can also be a game changer for entrepreneurs

[Chip Co-Host]
1363
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,000
who are making online courses or training videos.

[AVA Co-Host]
1364
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,480
Oh, yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
1365
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,420
That's a great point.

[AVA Co-Host]
1366
00:43:38,420 --> 00:43:40,440
Online learning is huge these days.

[Chip Co-Host]
1367
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,000
It is.

[AVA Co-Host]
1368
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,680
Handbrake can help entrepreneurs make those high quality videos.

[Chip Co-Host]
1369
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:45,440
Absolutely.

[Chip Co-Host]
1370
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,040
You can use Handbrake to shrink down those long lecture videos.

[AVA Co-Host]
1371
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,540
OK.

[Chip Co-Host]
1372
00:43:48,540 --> 00:43:51,160
Make them smaller so they're easier to download, easier

[Chip Co-Host]
1373
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,760
to stream.

[AVA Co-Host]
1374
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,400
That's super important, especially

[AVA Co-Host]
1375
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,120
for students who might not have the fastest internet.

[Chip Co-Host]
1376
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,200
Definitely.

[Chip Co-Host]
1377
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Accessibility is key.

[Chip Co-Host]
1378
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,900
Handbrake makes it so easy to create video content

[Chip Co-Host]
1379
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:05,040
that everyone can watch no matter what technology they're

[Chip Co-Host]
1380
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,840
using.

[AVA Co-Host]
1381
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,840
This is incredible.

[AVA Co-Host]
1382
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,920
It feels like Handbrake is more than just a video tool.

[AVA Co-Host]
1383
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,080
It's like a tool for creativity, innovation, and bringing people

[AVA Co-Host]
1384
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:14,880
together.

[Chip Co-Host]
1385
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,760
I totally agree.

[Chip Co-Host]
1386
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,440
And we've only scratched the surface.

[Chip Co-Host]
1387
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,040
In the next part, we'll dive into even more creative ways

[Chip Co-Host]
1388
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,860
to use Handbrake.

[Chip Co-Host]
1389
00:44:20,860 --> 00:44:24,280
And we'll give you some ideas to get those video juices flowing.

[AVA Co-Host]
1390
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,080
I can't wait.

[AVA Co-Host]
1391
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Until then, keep those creative sparks flying.

[AVA Co-Host]
1392
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,320
We'll see you back here soon for the grand finale of our Handbrake

[AVA Co-Host]
1393
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,520
deep dive.

[Chip Co-Host]
1394
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,120
Hey, everyone.

[Chip Co-Host]
1395
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,720
Really excited about this one because we're

[Chip Co-Host]
1396
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,520
going to be exploring two powerhouses you might not

[Chip Co-Host]
1397
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,280
know about yet.

[AVA Co-Host]
1398
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:39,920
OK.

[Chip Co-Host]
1399
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,040
BizTalk.Social

[AVA Co-Host]
1400
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,440
I'm so stoked.

[Chip Co-Host]
1401
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:48,520
And the Business Ecosystems Network, or BEN.

[Chip Co-Host]
1402
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,560
Have you heard of that one?

[AVA Co-Host]
1403
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,280
I have heard of both of those, actually.

[AVA Co-Host]
1404
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,520
Yeah, they've been turning heads lately.

[AVA Co-Host]
1405
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,040
And not just for the catchy names,

[AVA Co-Host]
1406
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,880
there's real substance to what they're

[AVA Co-Host]
1407
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,260
doing to support these micro businesses, which

[AVA Co-Host]
1408
00:44:59,260 --> 00:45:01,800
anyone who's tried it knows there's no walk in the park.

[Chip Co-Host]
1409
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,640
No walk in the park is an understatement.

[Chip Co-Host]
1410
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,680
I was looking at the research that you sent over.

[Chip Co-Host]
1411
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,960
And get this, over 80% of micro businesses in the US

[Chip Co-Host]
1412
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,600
have zero employees.

[AVA Co-Host]
1413
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,100
Wow.

[Chip Co-Host]
1414
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,240
That's a lot of solopreneurs just battling it out.

[AVA Co-Host]
1415
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:20,720
Yeah, it's a lot of responsibility

[AVA Co-Host]
1416
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,360
on one person's shoulders.

[AVA Co-Host]
1417
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,040
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Chip Co-Host]
1418
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,560
What else?

[AVA Co-Host]
1419
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,800
I mean, imagine trying to compete in a market dominated

[AVA Co-Host]
1420
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,960
by these huge corporations.

[AVA Co-Host]
1421
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,800
But you're a one person show.

[AVA Co-Host]
1422
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,480
You're the marketing department, you're customer service,

[AVA Co-Host]
1423
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,000
you're the accountant, sometimes all before you've

[AVA Co-Host]
1424
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,040
had your morning coffee.

[Chip Co-Host]
1425
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:39,880
Right, exactly.

[AVA Co-Host]
1426
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,880
So, it's no wonder that so many of these micro businesses

[AVA Co-Host]
1427
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,440
struggle to break through.

[Chip Co-Host]
1428
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,520
It's like trying to juggle chainsaws

[Chip Co-Host]
1429
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,440
while you're running a marathon.

[Chip Co-Host]
1430
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,840
It's impressive if you can do it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1431
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,600
It is impressive.

[Chip Co-Host]
1432
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,880
But also, probably a recipe for disaster.

[Chip Co-Host]
1433
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,520
So where does BEN come into play with all this?

[AVA Co-Host]
1434
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Well, I think of them as a cross between a supportive community

[AVA Co-Host]
1435
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,480
and a strategic alliance.

[AVA Co-Host]
1436
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,920
They're all about connecting micro businesses

[AVA Co-Host]
1437
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,520
with each other and providing them with the resources they

[AVA Co-Host]
1438
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,240
need to actually thrive.

[AVA Co-Host]
1439
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,320
And that's where BizTalk Social comes in.

[AVA Co-Host]
1440
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,680
So, BizTalk Social is like BEN's secret weapon.

[AVA Co-Host]
1441
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,280
Kind of.

[AVA Co-Host]
1442
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,320
It's a platform designed specifically

[AVA Co-Host]
1443
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,040
for these micro business owners to connect with each other,

[AVA Co-Host]
1444
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,480
to collaborate, and to learn from each other.

[AVA Co-Host]
1445
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,840
And unlike your typical social media platform,

[AVA Co-Host]
1446
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,320
BizTalk Social is all about quality over quantity.

[Chip Co-Host]
1447
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:34,880
I like that.

[AVA Co-Host]
1448
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,200
They've created these really focused ecosystems

[AVA Co-Host]
1449
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,640
where you can connect with people in your specific niche.

[Chip Co-Host]
1450
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,560
I'm really liking this ecosystem thing.

[AVA Co-Host]
1451
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
1452
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,040
Happening at the local level.

[AVA Co-Host]
1453
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,160
Right, I love that.

[Chip Co-Host]
1454
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,080
And where it feels like entrepreneurship

[Chip Co-Host]
1455
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,840
is accessible to anyone, no matter their background,

[Chip Co-Host]
1456
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,480
their resources, any of that.

[AVA Co-Host]
1457
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,120
That's a world I want to live in.

[Chip Co-Host]
1458
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
1459
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,040
That sounds pretty great to me too.

[AVA Co-Host]
1460
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,960
Yeah, absolutely.

[Chip Co-Host]
1461
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,840
And the exciting thing is with initiatives like BEN and BizTalk,

[Chip Co-Host]
1462
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,360
social, like gaining all this momentum,

[Chip Co-Host]
1463
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,440
that vision is becoming more and more attainable every day.

[AVA Co-Host]
1464
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,480
Absolutely.

[Chip Co-Host]
1465
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,960
So let's keep the conversation going.

[AVA Co-Host]
1466
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:13,600
Yes, please.

[Chip Co-Host]
1467
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,120
Support your local businesses.

[AVA Co-Host]
1468
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Yes.

[Chip Co-Host]
1469
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,320
Connect with other entrepreneurs.

[Chip Co-Host]
1470
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,160
And let's build that brighter future together.

[Chip Co-Host]
1471
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,040
All right, welcome back for the final part

[Chip Co-Host]
1472
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,720
of our Handbrake Deep Dive.

[Chip Co-Host]
1473
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,000
The grand finale.

[Chip Co-Host]
1474
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,480
You got it.

[Chip Co-Host]
1475
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,940
We've talked about how Handbrake can

[Chip Co-Host]
1476
00:47:27,940 --> 00:47:30,960
be a real game changer for businesses, entrepreneurs,

[Chip Co-Host]
1477
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,480
all that.

[Chip Co-Host]
1478
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,840
But you know who I think is going

[Chip Co-Host]
1479
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,600
to appreciate this the most?

[AVA Co-Host]
1480
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,120
Who's that?

[Chip Co-Host]
1481
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,960
The autodidacts, the lifelong learners.

[AVA Co-Host]
1482
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,280
Ah, yes.

[Chip Co-Host]
1483
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,120
Anyone out there who's always soaking up

[Chip Co-Host]
1484
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,280
new knowledge and skills.

[AVA Co-Host]
1485
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Always learning.

[Chip Co-Host]
1486
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,040
All the time, right.

[Chip Co-Host]
1487
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,320
Handbrake is like a dream come true for those folks.

[Chip Co-Host]
1488
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Yeah.

[Chip Co-Host]
1489
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,480
Think about it.

[Chip Co-Host]
1490
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,920
You're diving into a new subject.

[AVA Co-Host]
1491
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,440
Sure.

[Chip Co-Host]
1492
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,160
Taking online courses, watching those documentaries,

[Chip Co-Host]
1493
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,040
maybe even attending virtual workshops.

[Chip Co-Host]
1494
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,400
You're building this amazing library of educational videos

[Chip Co-Host]
1495
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,240
on your computer.

AVA Co-Host]
1496
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:02,440
It's a treasure trove.

[AVA Co-Host]
1497
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,760
But video files, they can be massive.

[AVA Co-Host]
1498
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,040
They gobble up storage space.

[AVA Co-Host]
1499
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,360
And sometimes it's a pain to even access them

[AVA Co-Host]
1500
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when you're out and about.

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I know what you mean.

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Handbrake is your new best friend here.

[Chip Co-Host]
1503
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,440
Oh, yeah.

[AVA Co-Host]
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It can shrink those huge files down to size.

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1505
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:17,840
No kidding.

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And you don't lose much quality.

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That means you can store way more videos on your devices,

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00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,240
access them from anywhere, and even share them

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00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:27,960
with your fellow learners without clogging up

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their inboxes.

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That's a lifesaver.

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It really is.

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It's like having a portable video library that

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00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,720
fits right in your pocket.

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00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:35,640
That's a great image.

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1516
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:36,800
I know, right.

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Perfect for anyone who loves to learn.

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00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,280
And get this.

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00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:40,920
What's that?

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00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,960
Handbrake can actually help you optimize those videos

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1521
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,480
for different learning situations.

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00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,640
So, let's say you're watching a lecture on your phone

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1523
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,840
while you're commuting.

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00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,960
You can actually use Handbrake to create a version that's

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1525
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,400
specifically for mobile viewing.

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00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,720
So, you get that smooth playback, even if your internet

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1527
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:59,440
connection isn't great.

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No buffering.

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1529
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,320
No buffering.

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1530
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,080
No more lag.

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1531
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No more interruptions.

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1532
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,800
You're just in the flow.

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1533
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,520
And what about those times when you want to go back and review

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1534
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,400
a certain part of a video?

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1535
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,360
Does Handbrake have any tricks for that?

[Chip Co-Host]
1536
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Of course.

[Chip Co-Host]
1537
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,200
Handbrake lets you create chapters in your videos.

[Chip Co-Host]
1538
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,120
So, you can jump right to that specific part.

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1539
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,920
You don't have to scrub through the whole thing.

[AVA Co-Host]
1540
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,400
That's awesome.

[Chip Co-Host]
1541
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,920
It's like a built-in table of contents.

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1542
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,960
It makes reviewing and remembering the material

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1543
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:25,880
so much easier.

[Chip Co-Host]
1544
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:26,720
Absolutely.

[Chip Co-Host]
1545
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:27,880
And get this.

[Chip Co-Host]
1546
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,600
Handbrake can even add subtitles to your videos.

[AVA Co-Host]
1547
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,560
Wow.

[Chip Co-Host]
1548
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,720
Makes them accessible for everyone,

[Chip Co-Host]
1549
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:36,000
including folks who are deaf or hard of hearing.

[AVA Co-Host]
1550
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:36,920
That's fantastic.

[AVA Co-Host]
1551
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,120
It's really great that Handbrake has

[AVA Co-Host]
1552
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,000
thought of all these things.

[Chip Co-Host]
1553
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,040
Yeah, it's impressive.

[AVA Co-Host]
1554
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,640
And we can't forget about all those creative folks out there.

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1555
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,480
The artists.

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1556
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,840
The filmmakers.

[AVA Co-Host]
1557
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,000
The YouTubers.

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1558
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,880
The storytellers.

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1559
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,400
The people using video to share their passions with the world.

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1560
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,080
It's like Handbrake is giving them the tools

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1561
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,640
to make those professional quality videos

[AVA Co-Host]
1562
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,200
without spending a ton of money.

[Chip Co-Host]
1563
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,920
Right.

[Chip Co-Host]
1564
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,600
They can experiment, play around with different codecs,

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1565
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,640
adjust the colors, even add special effects,

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1566
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,000
enhance their storytelling.

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1567
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,680
It's mind blowing that a free tool can do all that.

[AVA Co-Host]
1568
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,320
It feels like it's opening up the world of filmmaking

[AVA Co-Host]
1569
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,760
to everyone, giving everyone a chance to share their stories.

[Chip Co-Host]
1570
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,720
It really is.

[Chip Co-Host]
1571
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:21,200
And it's not just about those polished finished products,

[Chip Co-Host]
1572
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:21,840
either.

[Chip Co-Host]
1573
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,240
Handbrake is awesome for experimenting.

[Chip Co-Host]
1574
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:25,760
You know, just learning.

[Chip Co-Host]
1575
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,160
You can try out different video editing techniques,

[Chip Co-Host]
1576
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,880
play with the settings, see what works.

[AVA Co-Host]
1577
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,760
Like having a digital sandbox, right?

[Chip Co-Host]
1578
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,240
Right.

[AVA Co-Host]
1579
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,200
Where you can just let your creativity loose.

[Chip Co-Host]
1580
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:34,840
I like that.

[AVA Co-Host]
1581
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:35,800
I love that.

[AVA Co-Host]
1582
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,720
But OK, before we get too carried away,

[AVA Co-Host]
1583
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:38,960
let's bring it back to our listeners.

[Chip Co-Host]
1584
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,520
Right, right.

[AVA Co-Host]
1585
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,960
Let's do a quick recap of what we've learned about Handbrake.

[Chip Co-Host]
1586
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:42,480
Right.

[AVA Co-Host]
1587
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,440
Talked about a lot.

[AVA Co-Host]
1588
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,040
But the main thing is that Handbrake

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1589
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,480
is this super powerful, super versatile tool.

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1590
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,120
Anyone can use it.

[AVA Co-Host]
1591
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,840
Create, optimize, share your videos.

[Chip Co-Host]
1592
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,960
It's a game changer.

[AVA Co-Host]
1593
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,000
And it's free.

[AVA Co-Host]
1594
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,880
It really shows you what's possible when people work

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1595
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,800
together, share their knowledge.

[AVA Co-Host]
1596
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,680
We've seen how helpful Handbrake can be for businesses,

[AVA Co-Host]
1597
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,760
entrepreneurs, educators, lifelong learners,

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1598
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,000
creative people.

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1599
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,680
Everyone.

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00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,760
It's a tool that knocks down those barriers,

[AVA Co-Host]
1601
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,360
unlocks your potential, helps everyone tell their stories

[AVA Co-Host]
1602
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,160
through video.

[Chip Co-Host]
1603
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,960
I love that.

[AVA Co-Host]
1604
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,240
It's been amazing exploring Handbrake with you.

[Chip Co-Host]
1605
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:20,880
It has.

[AVA Co-Host]
1606
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,880
I hope our listeners are feeling as fired up about it as I am.

[Chip Co-Host]
1607
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,600
Me too.

[AVA Co-Host]
1608
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,040
But before we go, I got to leave you with one last thought.

[Chip Co-Host]
1609
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:27,600
OK, hit me.

[AVA Co-Host]
1610
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,840
Now that you've seen what Handbrake can do,

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1611
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,760
what video project are you going to create?

[AVA Co-Host]
1612
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,640
What story are you going to tell?

[Chip Co-Host]
1613
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:34,960
That's a great question.

[Chip Co-Host]
1614
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,400
In the meantime, head over to handbrake.fr,

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1615
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,960
download the tool, and just start playing around.

[Chip Co-Host]
1616
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,120
You might surprise yourself.

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1617
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,960
And don't forget, there's a whole community

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1618
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,280
of Handbrake users out there.

[AVA Co-Host]
1619
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,560
They're ready to help, answer your questions,

[AVA Co-Host]
1620
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,680
see your creations, learn from each other.

[Chip Co-Host]
1621
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,000
It's all about collaboration, trying new things,

[Chip Co-Host]
1622
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,160
having fun creating something together.

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1623
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,240
This is Coded Conversations.

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00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:59,040
We're signing off.

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00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,920
Until next time, keep exploring, keep learning,

[AVA Co-Host]
1626
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,000
and keep those creative sparks flying.

[Chip Co-Host]
1627
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:19,400
See you next time.