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Who's this? What do you want? What is up everybody? Thank you so much for tuning in.

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Welcome to the mmm doughnuts podcast. I am your host Justin Metcalf. Thanks for

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being here. I really appreciate it. You might have realized this is the second

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episode that has been dropping recently. Actually the third episode today. It's

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Wednesday so I've already dropped one episode that I recorded as promised but

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as I told you in last episode I'm gonna put three of the first three Treehouse

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of Horror episodes out today. I just said episode like 14 times. Sorry I have ADD

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1 2 3 4 and OCD 1 2 3 4. So here we are with Treehouse of Horror 2 which is in

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season 3 episode 7 and the original air date was October 31st right on Halloween

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1991. I remember watching this. I'm not kidding. I loved trick-or-treating. I went

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every single year until I was obscenely too old for it and I vividly remember

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this year because I went out trick-or-treating and then I came back in

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time to watch it which was at 7 p.m. and then I watched the episode then I went

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back out and did more trick-or-treating. It was awesome. Loved it. So I still to

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this day remember the the day this came out and further along in the series that

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we get the more I can remember. Like pretty soon we'll go over the Who Shot

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Mr. Burns episodes. The first episode ended a season and the second you know

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the continuance started the season and we will talk about everything we went

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through. The trauma that we experienced as children waiting a whole summer to

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get that next episode. It was brutal. But anyway so so here we are. I've got

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everything set up this time properly. I've got the best joke ready. I've got

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my my trivia questions ready and so for example the best joke I think I'm gonna

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start a new format where I bring it up at the beginning of the episode because

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I do keep missing it and there's a lot of jokes and and I like to point out

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what I think is my favorite one. The best joke. And so I've got it ready and it's

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don't hate me but again it's the prank called to mow. Look I love the gag okay I

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love the bit it was funny and the further along in the series we get the

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less often this is gonna be my favorite joke because other gags are introduced

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and other funnier jokes and better writing is done and at the time for this

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episode I think this was the best joke. So instead of trying to repeat it and

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butchering it like I've been known to do I have got it queued up and I'm gonna

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play it for you. You're welcome.

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I can already hear the more cynical of you right now saying that's not funny

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because you know or you don't get it because because of the way that it you

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know that he says it you know because it's not he's not like repeating

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something that's hidden you know like obviously somebody would know that was

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you know you don't repeat that. That's the joke that's the gag for this one. I

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know the rest of them are they're they're hidden you know there's funny

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names Hugh, Jas and Jacques Strapp but in this one that's that's the joke it's

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first of all there's no way that Bart was able to say all of that in the three

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seconds of pause or less that that Mo had which is one layer of the joke but

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then the rest of it is the joke is obviously somebody's not gonna hear that

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and then just blindly repeat it. So if you're not laughing because you didn't

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get it and if there's one thing I've learned in four decades on this planet

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is jokes are funnier when you have them explained to you except no they're not

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so you should be ashamed of yourself but hey at least now you get it so you know

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there's that. So fun facts about this episode. This episode marks the first

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use of the scary names in the opening credits. I mentioned that last time

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that that became you know a regular gag and this is when we first get it. It also

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has the opening sequence of gravestones like the the first one so we get both

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which is fun and this particular episode features parodies of classic horror and

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sci-fi works like the Twilight Zone. I remember last episode there was it was a

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parody of Tales from the Crypt but back to this one sorry Frankenstein and the

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thing with two heads as well as the invasion of the body snatchers. We see

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this a lot in film and TV show like writers and animators directors they pay

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homage to film that they have seen you know it's like stuff that they were

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inspired by stuff they grew up on and it's it's the same here for The Simpsons

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too there's a lot of that a lot of the references point back to that so I think

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it's fun to make that connection I hope you do too. And this episode won an Emmy

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for outstanding animated program. That's how good it was it was only the second

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installment of the Treehouse of Horror series but it was it was that good. I

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don't think this was their first Emmy but this episode did win an Emmy for

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animated outstanding animated program. Let's talk trivia. Are you guys do you

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guys like the trivia? Do you enjoy this? I would kind of toyed with it and the

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beginning it was more like whose line is it anyway where I don't really track the

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points but now we kind of can you know like I'm still doing it and you get a

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point for every answer and some of these questions have multiple answers. So for

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real are you enjoying this? Do you like the trivia? Do you do the homework? And if

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so I tricked you last episode the Halloween special because you didn't

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know I was gonna do that but I did tell you I was gonna do the first three so

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maybe you took a break and did your your homework and you have watched the the

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second Treehouse of Horror. I would advise you to now go watch Treehouse of

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Horror 3 because that is the next episode dropping in like an hour. So get

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to it. Let me know what you think about trivia. I'm honestly genuinely curious to

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know your thoughts. Okay so here we go. What question number one what are the

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names of the tombstones in the opening credits? I did this last time and there

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were like ten tombstones. They're not as many in this one. There are like five

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four or five. I have it written down later in my script but I don't know right

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you're falling behind you haven't been doing your homework you're not doing

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really well in the trivia this could be an opportunity for you to beef up your

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score and then tweet it and make sure to tag me

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mmm donuts 742 on the X. Okay question number two what does Lisa bribe Bart

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with to let her sleep in his bed because she had a bad dream because her the

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first segment you know this is broken up into three segments first segment is her

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nightmare so she goes into his room and and says you know can I had a bad dream

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can I sleep in here he says no so she bribes him what's the bribe hmm what is

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it question number three what does Bart suggest Homer get excuse me what job

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does Bart suggest Homer get after he loses his job at the power plant done

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done okay you have approximately a number of minutes to get these right

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nobody's stopping you from pausing and going watching the episodes but could

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you sleep at night cheating doing it like that you should because no one it's

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fine do it okay let's get into the first segment is the monkey's paw so this is

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the first nightmare like I said this is Lisa's nightmare and and a very very

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funny segment I love this segment they they start in in Marrakech and there's

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some some funny geographical jokes right away Homer makes a an obscure reference

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and you see if you haven't watched it go watch it it's funny but anyway so the

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the shop owner that that Homer runs into is this creepy dude and he sells him a

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monkey's paw and the monkey's paw grants three wishes and he says each wish has

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disaster well each wish has disastrous consequences he he he warns him about it

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and then what's what's really funny very very funny joke is he goes to tell Marge

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she asked where he got it and then he turned around he says well from the shop

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right there and it's missing and the that's why it's funny that's like a very

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common theme a lot of people use that bit to like add some some cloaked

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shadowy mystical thing to their story but then he says oh wait it was right

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over there and then the show the guy at the stall and he waves and talks it's

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funny so here it is though it's a classic the theme and it's a be careful

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what you wish for theme we saw a lot of it in film and TV growing up and it was

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it was pretty common because the the lesson was always you wish for

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something and on the surface you get what you wish for but what you realize

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is that there are a lot of other nuances and hidden things that pop up that you

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don't want and it's it's like a slap on the face with the backhand after you you

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get your wish and I think what it teaches is like you know be happy with

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what you have the grass isn't always greener but I think the Simpsons do a

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really good job with it in this in this episode there's there's escalating

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absurdity with the Simpsons wishes and their outcomes the first wish goes to

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Maggie which is hilarious she wishes for a new pacifier and it's delivered in

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this like beautiful old Rolls Royce limousine it's funny and then Lisa

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wishes for world peace and it goes well she gets world peace and everything on

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the planet is terrific but then King and Kodo show up the aliens that we will

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soon I mean speaking past tense we we have known and loved but now have

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become you know like a standard for tree house of horror so they make their

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second appearance in the second tree house of horror and they the they show

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up and they take over by just using like premature premature primitive weapons

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slingshot and like a billy club and a bat with tape on it and that's the joke

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we've got world peace and now nobody can fight back so they start to take over

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the planet right and then Homer decides with the third wish that he's gonna

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finally get it right and so of course a logical person will be thinking we'll do

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something about what just happened to the earth but this Homer Simpson he

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wishes for perfect turkey sandwich he's like I don't want any weird strange

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things and weird like cursed pickles I don't remember it's so funny I don't

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want to ruin it so you need to watch it it's hilarious and the turkeys dry so he

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starts crying and wailing like that's the end of the world so very well written

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bit I thought the jokes were just stacked on top of each other it's

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hilarious so now what right so here's he's very good even funnier he ends up

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given the the mitt the monkey paw to Flanders and Flanders he's he's thinking

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Homer's thinking Flanders is gonna screw up even worse and Flanders fixes

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everything he says you know with my first wish is to fix this alien invasion

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and it immediately gets fixed and then Flanders says I guess now I should

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spruce up the old house and it turns into this beautiful gorgeous mansion

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here's the the hidden joke they're not so hidden it's not very subtle he's a

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man of God and a man of not material wealth you know he's not I mean he's

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he's well-to-do we've seen in many episodes they've got good gadgets and

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they're well taken care of but he's not a materialistic man okay it's funny that

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he not only wishes for a big house and wealth but he actually gets it and and

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obviously so here's a question for you how does this segment play with the

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concept of fate and free will is I like you this isn't new I like to get

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analytical here okay these episodes were written by very intelligent people and

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it wasn't just a bunch of dumb gags and slapstick comedy thrown together there

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were themes and there was a lot of thought that went into these there's

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there's also some dark humor and social commentary in the segment that you know

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I'm what do you pick up on it do you see the kind of like what I was just saying

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with with Flanders we know Flanders and in these episodes trans and horror we

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see a lot of characters depicted as far different from how we know them it's

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like they're there one time of year their winter solstice where they get to

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come out and be their true selves you know for one day a year and it's that's

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how I was viewed it growing up and it was that's part of what made it so

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exciting and again it was like there was no again meaning I talked about this

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last episode there was like no repercussions to it like anything can

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happen in these segments and these three segments of the episode and it didn't

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matter the next segment picked up from the beginning like nothing happened and

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then next week the episodes didn't happen you know it was just it was fun

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to do that once a year it wasn't overdone and gave the characters or the

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writers a lot of freedom with the characters to do a lot of really cool

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stuff so wonder what your thoughts are on that per first of all the first

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segment but then let's go into the next segment the Twilight Zone one and this

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one's called the Bart zone Bart discovers that he has the power to

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control people with his mind dun dun and as such and like I said so that that was

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first that was Lisa's nightmare the monkey one and she was in a Bart's bed

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and then now Bart's having a dream sorry I wanted to make that connection it's

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important here's here's the thing that I want to discuss in this segment because

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a lot of a lot of really absurd things happen like the entire town is just at

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his will they do whatever he wants principal Skinner singing on the

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intercom everyone's praising him for the really awful dumb things that he does

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and he's got absolute power so I think the theme that is portrayed here is

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absolute power corrupts absolutely and that's that's a famous quote attributed

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to 19th century English historian Lord action where he says power tends to

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corrupt an absolute power corrupts absolutely so that your when you have

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absolute power there's there's almost I mean there's well nobody has ever had

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absolute power so we don't know for sure but we can see from when people do get

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in any any certain monocle of power it ends up corrupting them almost every

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there's just so much corruption that comes with power and that I think is the

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not it's the overt theme here that's that's being portrayed is that with his

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absolute power you can see nothing good happens at the end of it and his reign

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is just you know it makes everybody miserable his use of powers and the

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consequences you know he seems to just not care about and then at the end well

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that's actually a joke at the end but we'll talk about that in a second how do

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you think this episode in terms of how it how it satirizes the family dynamics

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and societal norms how do you think it does with that right think about it I

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mean I know this is very very pungent his his power but wouldn't you agree that

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to some extent there are parenting styles that allow that kind of abuse

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from children where a kid says what he wants and the parents just like whatever

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still think that there's some satire here about those family dynamics that

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are well I don't want to I'll get off my soapbox you tell me what you think did

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you pick up on the same things or am I just all alone in life like normal

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there's lots of good visual gags like Bart tries to change the way his cat is

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because same you know it's just a boring cat and that's funny but there's some

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other funny situations that are created by Bart's powers it's a good little bit

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Homer and Bart connecting and Homer asked him for a favor you know he said

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well you could change me back or give me my body back Bart says you got it and

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it's a sweet little moment and part of you thinks maybe he's gonna you know be

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regular Bart and do something mean but no he gives him his body and he's oh

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thanks son and then they hug and that's when Bart wakes up screaming because

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that's his nightmare that's the joke it's funny so then Bart and Lisa both

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go running into their parents room because they both had nightmares that's

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when the next bit starts so at the transition I think is really well done

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and then now now Homer has his nightmare there's lots lots to talk about in this

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in this one but this segment if I only had a brain is where mr. Burns is an

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evil scientist what a shock and he has a robot that he has built with Smithers

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and the robot needs a brain so they're they're looking at their computer

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screens sorry they're their monitors their CCTV you know security camera

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monitors like they do it's like a quintessential scene in mr. Burns's office

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and they're trying to decide who to fire and they fire Homer and so Homer gets

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the can and then that's when they go and you can see Burns's robot and so then it

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cuts to Homer trying to find a new job and ends up getting one I did it again I

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did it again I'm gonna talk about what Homer does and it's one of the trivia

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questions dad got it sorry kind of I mean I'm not that sorry so he ends up

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being a gravedigger and that's the answer to question number three and so

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he's taking a break after maybe four seconds of work falls asleep in his open

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grave and then mr. Burns and Smithers are walking around and Burns calls it a he

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says he's like a kid in a candy store walking around in the in the graveyard

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they get Homer and they bring him back to the lab and they cut open his his

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head and the funny thing is I mean they pull out a brain but when is the top of

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his dome that they cut off hits the ground there's a very hollow punk when

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it hits the ground which is funny but then also like they pull out a brain so

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you know I think they landed it still pretty well mr. Burns way out of

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character obvious I mean already out of character as an evil scientist puts the

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brain on his head and dances around it's funny funny so then and then there's

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the bit there's a bunch of jokes in there you should watch it if you haven't

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already let's get to the analyzing and the discussion there's I thought about

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this I don't know I was I was over analytical when I was preparing this

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one but I was thinking about analyzing the ethical implications of body

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modification and artificial artificial intelligence I don't think I'm gonna go

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into that though because it's kind of getting away from the whole shtick that

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the Simpsons are doing in the treehouse of horror right that's that's the joke

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you know being too analytical of these episodes is probably not gonna get us

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anywhere let's just enjoy the humor right because that's what it was what

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about the whole the the humor that's derived from Homer's brain in a robot

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body like the ability to see through several layers of concrete to the

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donuts that are you know in the plant and he just walks through the walls how

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do you think this segment explores themes of identity and sentience or

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consciousness huh it's pretty good right I get super nerdy when I'm preparing

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these I'll tell you not everything I write down in my outline actually gets

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put on the the episode some stuff as I'm reading it or right before as I prepare

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a plank that's that's pretty lame but anyway what do you think about the

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visual effects and the portrayal of futuristic technology like one could

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argue that King and Kodos and their spaceship is futuristic technology and it

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was even in last season with the first treehouse of horror but but with this

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with this robot and the whole Frankenstein scene are you tired of me

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saying robot yet I don't care that's how I say it and I like it so you can just

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hush your face but what do you think about the visual effects how do you

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think this episode stands up last time we talked about the balance between

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horror and comedy for the treehouse of horror or the Simpsons Halloween special

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how do you think this episode fared with its balance of horror and comedy the

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same as the first episode better worse what do you think and you compare it in

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contrast to the first three hours of horror how does it contribute to the

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evolution of that format of the treehouse of horror format starting off

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with a warning from Marge oh there was another warning dang it I didn't even

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talk about it it's another warning from Marge essentially it's you know you

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didn't listen to me last time you're not gonna do it this time it's funny but

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then there's that format and there's so many bits that go into it there's the

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the green glowing dripping font there's the the names that are you know funny

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names in the credits and the tombstones at the beginning and that eventually

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goes away there's just so many things that have in the three segments of

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three separate stories it's become obviously it's it's successful it's

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become very very famous very well known so how do you think this episode fared

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that's my question what are some of the most memorable moments or quotes or what

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are your favorite moments what's your favorite scene favorite joke I shared my

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favorite joke what's yours if you see it like I found a good number of these

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jokes people have already clipped on YouTube so if you've got a favorite joke

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go find it on YouTube copy it and then paste it in a tweet send it to me and

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let's talk about it so easy to communicate like that nowadays so but

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share with me engage with me talk to me please here's some more questions did

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you find no not did you what which of these segments did you find the funniest

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or the most disturbing is that something we I wanted to talk about some of these

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three ounce of horror episodes were disturbing that was the intent like

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Matt Groening even says when he put out you know the first three ounce of horror

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the Simpsons Halloween special the point was to disturb the public I think those

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were his words something along those lines that was the whole point it was

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to shot all that's what it was to shock the public so I mean that's what they're

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doing intentionally I remember sometimes being shocked by these but that was part

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of the allure part of the humor part of the fun so that being said I asked this

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question last time too what's your favorite tree house of horror episode or

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segment like I told you mine was when Homer spends a day in hell because he

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sells a soul to the devil for a doughnut I don't remember the other two segments

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of that episode right now I will soon it might even be next season but I do

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remember that segment I loved it I remember loving it as a kid I watched it

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over and over again thought it was hilarious lots of great jokes and lots

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of jokes I didn't get until later because there's like historical figures

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in it as Satan calls us the jury names I didn't understand like you know

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starting lineup of a hockey team that I didn't know at the time that's a very

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funny joke and we'll talk about that when I do that episode but there you go

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do you have any stories this is what I'm gonna leave you with personal stories of

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like be careful what you wish for like have you experienced anything like that

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like I'd be careful what you wish for kind of story in your life and if you

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do and you're comfortable sharing share it let me know so you can get me at

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chart and pants at gmail.com or on Twitter at mmm donuts 742 let's do the

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trivia answers real quick and it starts with I already ruined the third one I'm

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sorry he's a grave digger that's the job that he suggests the Bart suggests the

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tombstones there aren't as many there's five total in this one Bambi's mom Jim

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Morrison with peace signs for the O's and I was always the fashion at the time

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and dozens of like written lyrics and notes from fans and then the next one

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was Cajun cooking and the next one's Walt Disney and it's in the classic

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Disney font and then the last tombstone says lose weight now ask me how for the

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record there's also very very funny tombstone jokes in line for the ride the

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Haunted Mansion in Disneyland so next time you're there I'm pretty sure

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they're at Disney World too I think they're harder to see but a bunch of

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tombstones and like in the mausoleum as you walk past it lots of funny puns as

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names you're welcome okay and the last one what is the bribe that Lisa offers

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Bart to let her sleep in his bed it was a candy necklace hey thanks again for

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listening I'm so glad that you spend your time with me I appreciate that you

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are enjoying this I hope you're enjoying it as much as me I love the show I hope

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you do too and I will see you next time see ya seriously I'm getting so tired of those stupid Flandersisms

