1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Don't you give up on me! 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Alright people, here we are. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 A new episode. 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 And I have a confession to make. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 I am really sorry. 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 This will not be the first time that you hear me say this. 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 But... 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 I've made a mistake. 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 I know. 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 I know. 11 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 I'm sorry. 12 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 But here's what's going on. 13 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 You've heard me talking about guest stars. 14 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Okay? 15 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 It's time to clear something up. 16 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 I had a philosophical difference of opinion 17 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 of what a guest star was. 18 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Clearly. 19 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 With Google. 20 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 And when I did the Google 21 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 and I put in my query 22 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 what I read was 23 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 the first guest star 24 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 to appear as himself. 25 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Which is Tom Jones. 26 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 In season 2. 27 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 And of course I would have figured this out 28 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 eventually because 29 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 there are several guest stars 30 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 that I have neglected to mention 31 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 that I will mention now. 32 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 But more importantly 33 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 actually only one before this episode 34 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 but moving forward. 35 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 But more importantly, I would have gotten to it 36 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,000 when we get to Crested Gets Busted 37 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 and we see 38 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Kelsey Grammer 39 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 you know? 40 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It would have happened. 41 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Okay? 42 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Like I would have figured it out at that point. 43 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 But he's a major guest star. 44 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Okay? 45 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 So when you look up guest stars 46 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 and you see the most common one is 47 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Marsha Wallace who played 48 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Edna Krabappel. The reason I don't 49 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 count her as a guest star 50 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 is because she had a semi-permanent role. 51 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Right? 52 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 So if we have a difference of opinion on that 53 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 then that's fine. You can be wrong. 54 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 That's fine. I don't mind. 55 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 But 56 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 moving forward I will be more accurate 57 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 in my depiction and my clarification 58 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 of guest stars. 59 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Okay? 60 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 I feel 61 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 better. 62 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 So thank you for listening to me. 63 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Listen, thanks for coming back. 64 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 I'm glad that you're here. 65 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Appreciate you listening to the 66 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Donuts podcast. 67 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 I am your host Justin Metcalf 68 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 and we are going to go through the 69 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 episode 6 of 70 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 season 1 71 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 which is called Moaning Lisa. 72 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 And 73 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 as promised 74 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 I will tell you 75 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 about some guest stars. 76 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Okay, so this episode aired 77 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 February 11th, 1990. 78 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 And this one takes 79 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 kind of a more serious tone. 80 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Focuses on Lisa's emotional struggles 81 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 with sadness and her journey of 82 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 self-discovery. And it's really 83 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 incredible because 84 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 it attacks 85 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 some very important 86 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 ideals and 87 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 principles of self-care 88 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 and mental health 89 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 that you really 90 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 didn't see back then. And I didn't 91 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 recognize it for what it was at the time. 92 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 But I think it was 93 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 well done. 94 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 And 95 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 yeah, they do a good job with 96 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 the character Bleeding Gums Murphy 97 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 who ends up being in 98 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 I think three total episodes. 99 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Maybe more, but 100 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 not including the opening scene obviously. 101 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 But he's voiced by three different people 102 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 which we'll get to 103 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 eventually. But 104 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 the episode explores themes 105 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 of melancholy 106 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 and finding your 107 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 voice and the importance 108 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 of emotional expression. And that's 109 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 really awesome. So we're going to talk about that. 110 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 So guest stars. We have two 111 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 guest stars. 112 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 These are celebrity guest stars, people with 113 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 IMDB profiles. 114 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 And they 115 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 play a few different people. 116 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 So the first one is Miriam 117 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Flynn. 118 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 So Miriam Flynn. 119 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 She 120 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 well, so in this episode she plays 121 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Ms. Barr. 122 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Or Mrs. Barr? Ms. Barr. 123 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 And 124 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 I wanted to say this a certain way. You might 125 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 remember her from such films as 126 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Vegas Vacation. 127 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 And Babe. 128 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 And 129 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 The One with the 130 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Dinosaur. 131 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Crap, what is that? 132 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 The one with the dinosaur. She plays 133 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Oh, duh. 134 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 The Lamb Before Time. She plays 135 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Grandma Longneck. The Lamb 136 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Before Time. So if you haven't 137 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 seen Lamb Before Time, I definitely recommend 138 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 it. I said it. 139 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Singular. The 140 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Lamb Before Time, the first one. 141 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 There are like 38 142 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 movies. 143 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 It's really upsetting that they made so 144 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 dang many. But go watch the first 145 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 one. The first one is good. 146 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 End of discussion. Okay. 147 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 And the second guest star is Ron 148 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Taylor. He plays 149 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Bleeding Gums Murphy. 150 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 You might remember him from 151 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 such films as 152 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Trading Places. 153 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 He played 154 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 literally his 155 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 character name in Trading Places from 156 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 1983 was Big Black 157 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Guy. 158 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 That was 159 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 a good movie. 160 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 He was in 161 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Star Trek Deep Space Nine. He 162 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 was a Klingon chef. 163 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 So I think he was there more for 164 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 humor. But 165 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 yeah. 166 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Anyway, so for the 167 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 first little while, a lot of these guest stars, 168 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 these actors that we're going to be talking 169 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 about, you may not know. 170 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,000 So 171 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 you know, you're going to want to pull up 172 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 IMDB and look these guys up 173 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 because they're, you know, they were 174 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 prominent actors, I think, at least 175 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 for, through some perspective. 176 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 I think that they had pretty big 177 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 roles in a lot of ways. But 178 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 this was, again, 30 years ago. So 179 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 a lot has changed. 180 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Okay. Keep in mind that this is 181 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 1990. So 182 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 you know, the names are different. 183 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 And I'd be remiss if I 184 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 didn't mention that back in 185 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Homer's Odyssey, episode 186 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 three, I did miss 187 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 who I believe is considered 188 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 the first actual guest star 189 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 of the show. 190 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Not including Marshall 191 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Wallace. We've already talked about that. Sam 192 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 McMurray. All right. 193 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Sam McMurray. 194 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 You may remember him from such films 195 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 as Raising Arizona. 196 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Another great film. 197 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Definitely one you need to watch. 198 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 But he was 199 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 he was 200 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Lester Lehmann in 201 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Drop Dead Gorgeous. The dad 202 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 of that one, 203 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 like the 204 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 rival. Drop Dead Gorgeous 205 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 was an awesome, awesome 206 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 movie. I thought 207 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 it was great. But Denise Richards plays 208 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Becky Lehmann, 209 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 who's like the arch rival of Kirsten Dunst's 210 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 character. And so he's 211 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 the dad. 212 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 I think he owns like a furniture store or something. 213 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 But anyway, 214 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 good movie. And there we are. 215 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 So there are the two guest 216 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 stars from this show and then the one from before. 217 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 And like I said, moving forward, 218 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 I will point out guest stars 219 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 and in these cases 220 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 for the first season, they're guest stars who play 221 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 characters, not themselves. 222 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 So then, of course, 223 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 we'll get to people like Tom Jones 224 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 and musicians like Green Day and Smashing 225 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Pumpkins who play themselves. 226 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Aerosmith comes up 227 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 pretty soon. So there's 228 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 going to be a lot of cool stuff. So, okay. 229 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Let's get it going. 230 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Already seven minutes in and we haven't even 231 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 talked about the show yet. Geez. 232 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Okay, the chalkboard 233 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 gag was 234 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 I Will Not Instigate Revolution. 235 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Which is great. 236 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 I enjoyed that one. And the couch gag was the Simpsons 237 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 pile onto the couch. Maggie pops 238 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 up in the air and then Marge 239 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 catches her cute little couch 240 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 gag. Okay. 241 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 The episode. So 242 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 it starts with Lisa 243 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 feeling inexplicably 244 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 sad, inexplicably, 245 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 inexplicably, 246 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 inexplicably, 247 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 geez, 248 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 that's the one. 249 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Sad and disconnected. 250 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 So they don't actually say 251 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 what caused it, which I think is good 252 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 because how often 253 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 do we feel sad 254 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 or see someone else's sad and we ask why? 255 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Why are you feeling sad? 256 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 And then of course they ask her and 257 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 she doesn't know. 258 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 So that's 259 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 I think it's important for us to 260 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 consider that as part 261 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 of this discussion. 262 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 And it starts 263 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 the opening scene actually is the first trivia 264 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 question. I'll just 265 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 do what I normally do and do all three trivia questions 266 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 at the beginning. But I 267 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 was thinking about doing them as we go, but 268 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 I don't like it. 269 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 So the first trivia question is in this opening scene 270 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Lisa is looking into the bathroom mirror 271 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 and on the sink is a tube 272 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 of toothpaste. What word 273 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 is written on the tube? 274 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Okay. It's 1990 animation 275 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 and it's 276 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 kind of from a distance 277 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 and we didn't have 278 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 30,000 pixels back then. 279 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 So there wasn't 280 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 it didn't say 281 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 crest, Colgate, Total, blah, blah. 282 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 There was just one word. 283 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 That was it. 284 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 And it barely fit. So 285 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 what is the name of the toothpaste? Okay. 286 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Number two. What is the name of the 287 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 video game that Bart and Homer play 288 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 together? 289 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 And for a bonus point 290 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 what is Homer's boxing 291 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 record? 292 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Okay. His record 293 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 against Bart. What's his record? 294 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Third, 295 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 how did Bleeding Gums 296 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Murphy get his name? 297 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 All right. Let's 298 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 come back to those 299 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 and move along with the 300 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 episode. So 301 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 the portrayal of 302 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 childhood sadness 303 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 is challenging. 304 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 And I mean it's hard to articulate 305 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 those kinds of complex emotions. 306 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 You can make a kid look sad. Don't get me 307 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 wrong. That's probably easy, but 308 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 true sadness 309 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 took some time. 310 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 You know, it took a few minutes of dialogue 311 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 to really portray 312 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 that in, I think, a proper way. 313 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 And again, I think what the writers 314 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 were going for was not 315 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 what happened to cause the sadness, 316 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 but how 317 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 how it's 318 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 how sadness is viewed 319 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 and what we do about 320 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 that sadness, which is 321 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 incredible. So 322 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 the 323 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 there's misunderstandings 324 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 from her, from her family, as 325 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 she goes through her day. 326 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Misunderstandings from her teachers. 327 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 And 328 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 her attempts 329 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 to express her feelings 330 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 are just kind of met with that. 331 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 More than just 332 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 misunderstanding, just like 333 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 a lot of adults, they didn't really try 334 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 to understand. They were just, oh, you know, kids 335 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 get sad sometimes. 336 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 And that happens. That's truth. 337 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 It happens now. 338 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 So 339 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 how do you think that the animators 340 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 did when 341 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 with visually representing 342 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Lisa's emotional state? 343 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Because like I said, it's trying to show 344 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 and depict sadness is different 345 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 from making a child look 346 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,000 sad for a moment. 347 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 There's more of it. 348 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 She kept a morose 349 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 look on her face. 350 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Her posture was a little 351 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 different and the colors were less 352 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 vibrant. Like there was more 353 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 to it. There was also music. 354 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 You know, 355 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 somber music. 356 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Just, you know, that 357 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 kind of stuff is intentional. 358 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 They do that on purpose to 359 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 portray their message and then make it more 360 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 clear. And of course, as the Simpsons 361 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 move on, there's a lot more 362 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 funny, humorous stuff. 363 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 And less episodes 364 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 like this. But one of the great 365 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 things about this episode is what it 366 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 taught us. And it really 367 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 would be a shame to just skip over it. 368 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 So I'm 369 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 I complain a lot about them. You hear it. But 370 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 I'm glad I've gone back to listen to 371 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 these and watch these over again. So 372 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 next, 373 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 the family dynamics 374 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 are still 375 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 evolving with the Simpsons. 376 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Like when 377 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Marge and Homer find out Lisa's 378 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 sad, Lisa or Homer 379 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 tries to cheer Lisa up with his usual 380 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 antics and they just 381 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 make things worse. And Marge, 382 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 she offers advice 383 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 and usually throughout the series 384 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 her advice is fairly helpful. But in its case 385 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 it's well-meaning, but it's ultimately 386 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 it's unhelpful. 387 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Bart, surprisingly, 388 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 shows 389 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 empathy towards Lisa's 390 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 situation. 391 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 It's something that's, I'm not going to 392 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 say it's out of character because there are several 393 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 episodes where Lisa and Bart 394 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 have a deep connection 395 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 as brother and sister and they come together 396 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 and 397 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 and that 398 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 connection is shown to be very strong. 399 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 So I'm not going to say it's out of character, 400 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 but it is 401 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 still somewhat surprising when it happens. 402 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 And in his case when he shows empathy towards her 403 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 situation. 404 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 So there's lots of different 405 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 approaches that the family takes 406 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 to deal with Lisa's sadness. 407 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 But inevitably 408 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 it's, you know, nothing helps. 409 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 So Lisa, 410 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 like any other eight-year-old would, 411 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 grabs her saxophone 412 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 and wanders downtown in the middle of night. 413 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 So I 414 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 I don't know if that was an intentional 415 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 joke, but I 416 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 I sure as heck wouldn't 417 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 allow my child out of my 418 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 home at night 419 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 feeling sad. But 420 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 I mean, if we're going to sit and 421 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 talk about how the Simpsons 422 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 do things differently from normal families, 423 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 these episodes would be four hours 424 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 long. So we're not going to 425 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 get into that. But I just wanted to point that out. 426 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 If it wasn't an intentional joke, fine. 427 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 I still think it's funny. 428 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 So she encounters Bleeding Gum Murphy. 429 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I believe on the same 430 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 bridge that we saw 431 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 in Homer's Odyssey when 432 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Homer was was thinking 433 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 about taking his life. I think it's the 434 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 same bridge. 435 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 So he teaches Lisa 436 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 about blues 437 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 and encourages her to 438 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 express her emotions 439 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 through music. 440 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 And 441 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 this is a very significant time 442 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 for 443 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Lisa because Bleeding 444 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Gum Murphy ends up being a very prominent 445 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 mentor figure 446 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 for Lisa throughout the series, 447 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 even though he was only in a limited 448 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 amount of episodes and 449 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 dies pretty soon. 450 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000 I think within the first couple of seasons. 451 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 It 452 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 just goes to show how impactful 453 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 he was and 454 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 therefore how impactful this 455 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 particular moment and scene 456 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 were. And it doesn't hurt that 457 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,000 at the end of this episode, 458 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 we get a really great 459 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 sounding song. 460 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 She's got a great singing voice. 461 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 I really like that. 462 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,000 So we'll come back to that in a minute. 463 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 So the role of 464 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 music has a form of emotional 465 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 expression and 466 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 sort of catharsis 467 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 is not new. It's something that 468 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 was taught 469 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 in the 90s and 470 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 it's still proven 471 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 with scientific 472 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 research to be an excellent 473 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 form and source for 474 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 emotional expression. There's 475 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 a lot of different music therapies 476 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 that have been created and evolved 477 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 through the years. 478 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 I was at a 479 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 children's hospital with my son a few 480 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 years back. He had 481 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 two different stays 482 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 where he was stuck in the hospital for a week. 483 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 It was rough. 484 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 It was rough, but 485 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 one day, 486 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 I think one day a month or every 487 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 two weeks or something, we were able to see 488 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 it once. They had these different types 489 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 of therapies where 490 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 they came to your room. So there was 491 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 art therapy. 492 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Actually, you'd go to that one. But 493 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 then there was a therapy 494 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 dog. The owner and his dog 495 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 would come to the room and they'd do 496 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 some cute tricks. And it was a kind 497 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 of therapy dog 498 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 whose job it was to just be 499 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 hugged and be lovable. He jumped up on 500 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 the bed and just cuddled and 501 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 let my son hug him. 502 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 It was just so 503 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 heartwarming and 504 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 it made a big difference. And of course, 505 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 I mean, you should look into this, but 506 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 your brain will release oxytocin 507 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 from 508 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 when you make contact with 509 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 other humans through skin 510 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 or when you're petting an animal. 511 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 It's very relaxing 512 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 and it was very cathartic. 513 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 And then there 514 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000 is this 515 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 this young woman, I think 516 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 maybe in her early 20s, 517 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 who was volunteering her time 518 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 and she came with a guitar 519 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 and just sang a few songs to 520 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,000 him. It was awesome. 521 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 And they had a great time 522 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 and that was the musical therapy. 523 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 And consequently, 524 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 we actually, since our kids were about 525 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000 seven or eight years old, we have 526 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 insisted that they learn piano. 527 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Each of our kids. 528 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 And there were plenty of times when they've 529 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 absolutely hated us. 530 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 In the moment. But 531 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 one of them's grown now and the other two are 532 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 growing. They're older 533 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 teenagers. 534 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000 They all say the same thing. 535 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 It's rough to have to practice, 536 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000 but their 537 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 ability to 538 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 use music as a 539 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 healthy coping mechanism and to 540 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 use it as a way to express themselves 541 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 has been a godsend 542 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 for them. And it's been 543 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 something that's now a very 544 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 important part of their life. 545 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 And that's definitely what I think 546 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 they were teaching here in this episode is 547 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 the importance of 548 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 healthy 549 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 healthy, I mean, we know now 550 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 it's called a coping mechanism, but 551 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 I don't know what it was in 1990. Maybe 552 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 it was then. But a healthy way to 553 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 express yourself and to 554 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 deal with sadness. 555 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 And there's a stark contrast between 556 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 dealing with sadness 557 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 and burying sadness. 558 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Okay. It's 559 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 important that we have that understanding because 560 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 drinking alcohol 561 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 because you're sad. 562 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Taking drugs because 563 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 you're sad. Playing 564 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 video games because 565 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000 you're sad 566 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 are unhealthy ways 567 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 to cope with your sadness. 568 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 And doing those things 569 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 on your own. 570 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 I mean, if I want to go play video games, 571 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 there's nothing wrong with that. But if 572 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 I'm doing it because I'm sad, there's 573 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 something wrong with it. Because then my 574 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 brain is going to release chemicals 575 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 that numb the pain. 576 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 And that's 577 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 why it's important for us to 578 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 have this distinct 579 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 conversation where 580 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 we separate numbing pain 581 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 and facing the sadness. 582 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Her 583 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 sadness didn't magically disappear. 584 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 But she learns to embrace it as 585 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 part of herself. She finds 586 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 solace in music and connects with 587 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 others who understand 588 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 her. Do you see? Do you understand 589 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 what's being taught in this episode? 590 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000 It's so incredible. 591 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I absolutely love 592 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 what this episode stands for. 593 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 And I think it withstands 594 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 a test of time. I think it's an episode 595 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 that should be shown 596 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000 in school. 597 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000 In my opinion. I mean, the kids will love it because you're showing 598 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 The Simpsons in school. 599 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 But, man, it teaches some amazing 600 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 stuff. It really does. 601 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 What do you think? 602 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000 So when we talk about 603 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 the episode's message about 604 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 accepting and validating emotions, 605 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 even the negative ones, 606 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 what comes to your mind? 607 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Do you buy into that? 608 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Do you think that's a good way to do it? 609 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Do you think that's a healthy way to live? 610 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Tell me what you think of the ending scene. 611 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 My 612 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 thoughts were I wanted to analyze 613 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 the ending scene and the implications 614 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 that it had on Lisa's future. 615 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 But I kind of would rather hear what 616 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 you have to say. 617 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 I mean, I'll still share briefly what I think 618 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 instead of going into full detail what I 619 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 had written. But 620 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 I want to know what you 621 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 think, what comes to mind, what you heard, 622 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 what you felt, what you saw, 623 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 what you thought when you saw the ending 624 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 scene. So when she's singing that 625 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Jazz Man song, which I, it was 626 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000 super awesome, I still 627 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 think, you know, I've already said it. I loved it. 628 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 I thought 629 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 the impact on her future was pretty 630 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 clear. She's 631 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 embracing her sadness. 632 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 She's connecting with someone who is like 633 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 minded in 634 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Bleedingham's Murphy. And I 635 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000 know we see him again. 636 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 And I know how she reveres him 637 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 in those future episodes. 638 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000 So that connection is 639 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 made right 640 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000 now. And it becomes immediately 641 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 strong and cemented within 642 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 her, the depths 643 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 of her soul. 644 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 A great episode. 645 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000 So there's lots of emotional depth in this 646 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 episode. Moaning 647 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Lisa definitely 648 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 differs from other early Simpsons episodes. 649 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 And one could argue 650 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 from most future episodes. 651 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 And its focus 652 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000 is on emotional realism. 653 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 What do you think 654 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 it offers society 655 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 today? What do you think 656 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 it does for us? Do you find value 657 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 in it now? 658 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 What about the music? 659 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Like the episode teaches us about 660 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 blues music, 661 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 jazz music, 662 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 and its impact in 663 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 storytelling. 664 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Right? It does. 665 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 It really does. This will not be the 666 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 first time by far 667 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 that I tell you 668 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000 about something, 669 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 a principle of life, or just 670 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 a meaning of something that I 671 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 learned from the Simpsons because I 672 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 watched the Simpsons. And then later on 673 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 in school or reading a book or something, 674 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 the actual definition or 675 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 clarification will come up and I'll say, oh 676 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 yeah, I learned that on the Simpsons. 677 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Seriously, as a 678 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Gen Xer, that happened 679 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000 countless times. 680 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 There's just a whole lot 681 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 that this show 682 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 teaches. It really is. 683 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Good, bad, or indifferent, it does. 684 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 How do you 685 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 think this episode contributes to 686 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 the development of Lisa? 687 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 I think I've pretty clearly 688 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 shared my opinion of how it does. 689 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 We all know how important the 690 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000 saxophone is to her throughout her life. 691 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000 I mean, she's always 692 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 eight, but for 30 years 693 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 of episodes, 694 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000 the saxophone 695 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 is her life. There are a couple of prominent 696 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000 episodes where 697 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 something happens to her saxophone 698 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 and it becomes a source 699 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 of concern or distress. 700 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 It's in two different places 701 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000 in the opening scenes of the show. 702 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 She has a solo 703 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 and every full 704 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000 opening scene of the show. 705 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000 It's a very prominent 706 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 figurehead 707 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 or piece in 708 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 the show. The theme 709 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 of this particular episode 710 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 I think has more depth 711 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000 than 712 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 any episode yet 713 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 that had come out at the time. 714 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 There are some others 715 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 that have some great depth, 716 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000 but I think this one definitely stands apart. 717 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Especially 718 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000 for the time as being the first 719 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000 with real 720 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000 themes of sadness and self-expression, 721 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 music, 722 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000 mentorship. 723 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Definitely 724 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 a great episode 725 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 and I think it was fully intentional 726 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 as well. 727 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 It makes you wonder, were they toying with these things? 728 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Should we stick to more of the slapstick 729 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 comedy or should we teach a value 730 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 and see what people think? 731 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 I'm sure that 732 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 the responses that they got in the 733 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 media were 734 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 from focus groups and 735 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 people that watched the show, was part 736 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 of their decision making. 737 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Any successful 738 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000 company or program is going to 739 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 have that kind of thing and they'll evolve. 740 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 But 741 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 it makes 742 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 me kind of wish sometimes 743 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 that we had a lot more of this. 744 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 But I totally understand that I think 745 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 if they went this way more often, 746 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000 if they were more heavy handed with this kind of stuff, 747 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000 with this depth, it probably 748 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 wouldn't have lasted 35 years. 749 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 I get it. 750 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 It is what it is and that's fine. 751 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 But 752 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 yeah. 753 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 What does my opinion matter? 754 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Everything. That's why. 755 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 And so does yours. 756 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaking of which, 757 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 share it with me. I keep telling 758 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000 you. Keep telling you. 759 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Share your opinions with me. You can email me 760 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 at chartanpants at gmail.com or 761 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 you can send me a 762 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000 tweet on 763 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 x at 764 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000 mmmdonuts742 765 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000 All right. 766 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 We've 767 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 gone over everything I wanted to. 768 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 The last thing I wanted to just 769 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000 re-emphasize is the legacy 770 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000 that this episode leaves behind. 771 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 The lasting impact 772 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000 that this episode has 773 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000 for The Simpsons 774 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000 and its portrayal of 775 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 complex emotions. 776 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 If you 777 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 saw this episode 778 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 in 1990, 779 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 I hope 780 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 you have that same understanding as I do. 781 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 That 782 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000 for whatever, for it is, 783 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 you know, it is what it is, whether you 784 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 liked it or not at the time or now, 785 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 I think we should 786 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 hopefully we can agree 787 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 that this episode had an amazing 788 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000 portrayal of complex emotions and had 789 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 and left a lasting impact on 790 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000 society. So. 791 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 I enjoyed it. I hope you did too. 792 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Tell me how 793 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000 it made you feel. 794 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Tell me what your favorite 795 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000 moments were. Did you like the music? 796 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Did you like the jokes? 797 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 My 798 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 favorite joke was 799 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000 being the running gag of Bart 800 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 calling Moe. Bart called Moe 801 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 to try to cheer Lisa up and 802 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000 the name he 803 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 chose was Jock Strap. 804 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 I'm looking for a Jock Strap. 805 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 I love that stuff. I've already told you 806 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 that. Okay. 807 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Let's end with the trivia questions, shall we? 808 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 In the opening scene, Lisa's looking into the 809 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 bathroom mirror. 810 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 What is written on her tube 811 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 toothpaste? The word glum. 812 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 G-L-U-M. 813 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Get it? 814 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000 Because she was glum. 815 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Yeah. 816 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 You might want to call that lazy writing, 817 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000 but I think it's clever. 818 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 What is the name of the video game Bart and Homer 819 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 play together? It is Super Slugfest. 820 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 And the bonus question, what is Homer's 821 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 boxing record? It is 0 wins 822 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000 and 48 losses. So, 0 and 823 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 48. Rough. 824 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 That's bad. 825 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 How did Bleeding Gums Murphy 826 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 get his name? He said, 827 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000 put it to you this way, Lisa. 828 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 You ever go to the dentist? 829 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 She said, yeah. He said, 830 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000 not me. 831 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 So, he never goes 832 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 to the dentist and that's how he gets his name. 833 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Gross. 834 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Go to the dentist, kids. 835 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Thanks again for watching. 836 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 I really appreciate it. 837 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Tune in next week for 838 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 The Call of the Simpsons 839 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 where we have guest 840 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 star Albert Brooks. 841 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000 It is his first 842 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 guest appearance, 843 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 but 844 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 he does it again in two episodes 845 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 later. He's 846 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000 two different characters in two 847 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000 different episodes 848 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000 of The Simpsons in the first season. 849 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000 It's pretty cool. Alright, so tune in 850 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 next week. Thanks again for listening. 851 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Give me a shout on Twitter 852 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 and I will see you 853 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:28,000 next week. Thanks everybody.