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Welcome to Meteorology Matters. What if we told

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you that humanity's really profound influence

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on Earth's climate? You know, the very air around

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us might have been detectable much, much earlier

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than we previously imagined. Yeah, we're talking

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about a time when, like, horse -drawn carriages

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were still the main way to get around. Exactly.

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Long before gas -powered cars were even a common

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sight. It's a revelation that genuinely shifts

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our understanding of climate history and, well,

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our long -term impact. Today, we're embarking

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on a truly captivating journey, sort of a scientific...

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thought experiment really, to explore precisely

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when the human impact on our atmosphere became,

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you know, undeniably discernible. It really challenges

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so many assumptions about the timeline, doesn't

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it? It does, pushing that moment of clear detection

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back over a century. That's right. Our mission

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in this Meteorology Matters exploration is to

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unravel how scientists kind of peering back through

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time, but using today's advanced tools and sophisticated

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climate models have pinpointed a precise moment.

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A moment when a human fingerprint would have

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emerged. Exactly. In the atmospheric temperature

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record. And this isn't just, you know, a historical

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curiosity for scientists. It fundamentally reshapes

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our understanding of humanity's longstanding

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and often overlooked connection to global atmospheric

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changes. It really makes you consider just how

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long we've truly been altering our planet on

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a planetary scale. It really does. So, if we're

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tracing this impact, where do we even begin?

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Where do we see the earliest scientific glimmers

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of understanding how our atmosphere actually

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works? Yeah, what was the foundation? Right.

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What set all this in motion long before anyone

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even thought of a carbon footprint? That's a

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great place to start because the groundwork was

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laid surprisingly early. Picture the mid -19th

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century, a time of incredible scientific curiosity

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discovery. Even while the Industrial Revolution

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was rapidly expanding, a handful of visionary

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scientists were quietly unraveling the fundamental

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physics of Earth's atmosphere. And who were these

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pioneers? What did they actually uncover? Well,

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the absolute foundation of our understanding

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of the greenhouse effect comes from the late

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1850s, early 1860s. This is when two really brilliant

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individuals Eunice Foote and John Tyndall, working

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independently, mind you, conducted these pivotal

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experimental discoveries. Ah, Foote and Tyndall.

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Yes. They were the first to really demonstrate

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the heat -trapping properties of carbon dioxide

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and other greenhouse gases, too. How did they

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even do that back then? Well, you can imagine

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they're labs. They'd fill these glass tubes with

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different gases, right? Then expose them to sunlight,

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measuring how much heat each gas absorbs. Simple

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but clever. Very. And Foote, who's actually a

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self -taught scientist and a women's rights advocate,

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she even hypothesized that an increase in atmospheric

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CO2 would lead to a warmer planet. Wow, back

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then. Absolutely, predicting something remarkable

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for her time. Tyndall later confirmed and expanded

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on her work, adding critical detail about the

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specific wavelengths of heat that CO2 absorbed.

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So these are like the seminal moments. Definitely.

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Essentially identifying the very mechanism that

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allows our planet to stay warm enough for life,

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but also critically how it could be altered.

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So they showed certain gases act like a blanket,

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trapping heat. But did anyone before them have

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inklings of this? Was the idea totally new? Good

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question. No, not entirely new. But the experimental

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proof was. Earlier thinkers, like the French

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mathematician Jean -Baptiste Fourier back in

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the 1820s, had already proposed that the Earth's

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atmosphere played a crucial role in keeping it

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warm. He compared it to a greenhouse, right?

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Or a hotbox. Exactly. Then Claude Pouillet in

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the 1830s refined these ideas, and even earlier,

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the Swiss naturalist Horace -Benedict de Saussure,

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like 1700s, he did experiments with something

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called a heliothermometer. What now? Heliothermometer.

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Basically an insulated black box designed to

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trap solar radiation. So it hinted at how the

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atmosphere might work. Okay, so the theory was

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kind of brewing. The theoretical stage was set,

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yeah. But it was the meticulous experimental

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work of foot and Tyndall that really solidified

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the understanding of specific gases as the heat

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trappers. Got it. And this brings us to a name

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many might recognize. Svante? Arrhenius. Ah yes,

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Arrhenius. What was his big contribution to this?

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Arrhenius, a brilliant Swedish chemist, came

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along in the late 1800s building directly on

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foot and Tyndall's work. And he made what was,

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for its time, just an utterly astounding and

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prescient prediction. OK. He was one of the first

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to really recognize that the burning of fossil

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fuels, mostly coal, back then during that big

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industrial push, was increasing the amount of

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carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Right, that

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makes sense. But he didn't stop there. He went

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a remarkable step further. He actually calculated,

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estimated, that a doubling of atmospheric carbon

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dioxide could lead to a surface temperature increase

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of around 4 degrees Celsius. Wait, hold on. 4

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degrees Celsius, it sounds... uncannily familiar,

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isn't that close to modern estimates for climate

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sensitivity? Bingo. He figured that out over

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a century ago. Precisely. It was a profoundly

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insightful calculation based on the best available

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physics and observations of his time. Made more

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than a century ago. He wasn't just guessing.

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He was using scientific principles to anticipate

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a key aspect of climate change with incredible

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foresight. He understood the mechanism and even

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estimated its magnitude long before anyone could

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have imagined the scale of fossil fuel use we

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see today. That's incredible. So the theory was

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there, the understanding of how CO2 warms the

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planet was emerging. But to actually detect a

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human influence, you need data, right? Observations.

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What was happening on that front? You're right.

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Theory needs proof, needs observation. And in

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parallel with this developing theoretical understanding,

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the practical data needed to identify these human

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fingerprints was kind of slowly but surely accumulating.

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By the 1860s, systematic daily measurements of

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surface temperature had begun, mostly in urban

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areas across Europe and North America. So like

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weather station data. Pretty much. This provided

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a foundational record of localized temperature

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changes, establishing a baseline of sorts. But

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surface measurements alone, that wouldn't give

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you the full atmospheric picture, would it? You

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need to go higher up. Exactly. To truly understand

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global climate and the vertical structure of

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temperature, scientists needed to look beyond

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the surface. They needed to venture into what

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they called the free atmosphere. The air masses

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above the ground. Right. And that was a significant

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challenge for the technology of the time. However,

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pioneering efforts started in 1892. A French

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physicist, Gustave Hermite, And a journalist,

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Georges Besançon, launched some of the first

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unpiloted weather balloons. Unpiloted balloons

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in 1892. Yep. And they weren't just balloons.

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They carried these compact devices designed to

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measure temperature and pressure high above the

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ground. That's amazing. Just sending stuff up

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and hoping for the best. Kind of. It's incredible

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to think of them just sending up balloons, completely

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unaware they were laying the groundwork for discovering

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an entirely new atmospheric layer. What a leap

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of faith and ingenuity. So they were essentially

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sending up little weather stations on a string

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almost. Precisely. And their work paved the way

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for more systematic balloon -based measurements

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toward the end of the 1800s, notably by Léon

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Tesserin de Borde in France and Richard Assmann

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in Germany. Okay, more systematic efforts. Yeah,

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they used balloons made of paper, silk, rubber,

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constantly refining their techniques. And what

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they discovered was truly groundbreaking. What

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was it? They found that temperature didn't just

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keep dropping the higher you went, which was

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the common belief. Great, colder, higher up.

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Instead, they observed a distinct layer above

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roughly 11 to 14 kilometers, where the temperature

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either stabilized or even increased with height.

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Increased. That's counterintuitive. Totally unexpected.

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And that finding marked nothing less than the

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discovery of the stratosphere. a whole new layer

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of our atmosphere. Wow. The stratosphere, that's

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a huge discovery. How did that early balloon

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tech evolve into what we use today? Well, these

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early experiments, where they often had to recover

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the instruments manually. Right, flying the balloon.

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Yeah. They rapidly led to the development of

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what we now call radiosons. That was a massive

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technological leap. Radiosons, okay. Imagine

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a small weather balloon carrying a compact instrument

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package. Maybe the size of a shoebox, measuring

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temperature, pressure, humidity. But crucially,

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unlike the earlier ones, radio suns could transmit

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these measurements directly down to ground stations

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via radio. Ah, real -time data. Exactly, real

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-time data from much higher altitudes as they

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went up. It revolutionized atmospheric observation.

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Now, truly global records of free atmosphere

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temperature didn't really kick in until around

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1946, or maybe more broadly with the International

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Geophysical Year in 1958. IGY 58, right. But

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statistical reconstructions using historical

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upper air and surface data can even extend back

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as early as 1918. So the observational network

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was definitely growing. OK, so we're getting

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temperature data from higher up. What about the

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historical chemical record? How did they know

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what CO2 levels were actually like way back then

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before Arrhenius? That's where Earth itself acts

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as a kind of historical archive. Oh, so. The

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vast ice sheets of Antarctica and Greenland.

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These ice cores act like frozen time capsules.

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Right, the ice cores. As snow falls in compacts

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over millennia, it traps tiny bubbles of ancient

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air. Scientists can drill down, extract these

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cores, sometimes hundreds or thousands of meters

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deep, and analyze the air trapped in those bubbles.

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A direct sample of past air. A direct sample

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of Earth's past atmosphere. They've revealed

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precise historical signals of carbon dioxide,

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methane, other greenhouse gases, going back hundreds

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of thousands of years, way before the Industrial

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Revolution. So what did they show for the period

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we're talking about, the late 1800s? From those

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cores, we know that between 1860 and 1899, atmospheric

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carbon dioxide was growing at a rate of approximately

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2 .5 parts per million by volume per decade.

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Okay, so a measurable increase even then. A measurable

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increase. So you had the theoretical understanding

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from Arrhenius, the developing observational

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methods for the atmosphere, and now, thanks to

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ice cores, a detailed historical chemical record.

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The pieces were starting to come together. By

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the late 1800s, early 1900s, the picture was

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emerging. Burning fossil fuels released CO2.

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CO2 enhanced the greenhouse effect that would

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warm the surface. And the ability to measure

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atmospheric temperatures was advancing fast.

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But, and this seems like a big but, there was

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still a crucial missing piece, wasn't there?

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Something preventing them from getting the full

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picture. You've hit on the critical point. Yes.

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They knew broadly that CO2 would warm the surface,

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but they didn't yet have a clear understanding

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of exactly how these elevated CO2 levels would

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specifically change the vertical structure of

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atmospheric temperature. Meaning? Meaning they

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didn't fully grasp the distinct and different

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effects on the stratosphere versus the troposphere,

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that lowest layer where we live where weather

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happens. Ah, the cooling versus warming pattern.

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Precisely. That critical understanding that detailed

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modeling works that could show those precise

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vertical changes wouldn't become a until much,

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much later, specifically with groundbreaking

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modeling work published in the 1960s. Wow, the

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1960s, that's a significant gap. A huge gap between

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the initial theory and the ability to detect

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the specific pattern, the unique fingerprint

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of human influence. And that missing piece, that

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later development of sophisticated climate models,

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brings us right to the core of this fascinating

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research we're discussing. The central question

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the scientists posed was, well, it was truly

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audacious, wasn't it? It really was. When could

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scientists first have definitively known that

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fossil fuel burning was significantly altering

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the global climate if they had access to today's

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advanced tools and models? Yeah, the big what

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if. And this contrasts sharply with a lot of

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previous studies, right? which mostly looked

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at surface temperature changes or maybe paleoclimate

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reconstructions. Exactly. Those often suggested

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a later detection time for human influence, sometimes

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well into the 20th century. But this study took

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a different angle. What's unique about this particular

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research and why it's so compelling is its deliberate

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focus on the stratosphere. Why the stratosphere?

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Because that upper layer of the atmosphere is

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expected to show a remarkably large human -caused

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signal with very distinct patterns of change.

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Think of it this way. The stratosphere is like

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a quiet room. A small sound in a quiet room would

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be much easier to hear than in a noisy concert

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hall, right? Right. The concert hall being the

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troposphere. Pretty much. The troposphere has

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much more natural variability, more noise. So

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the stratosphere makes the signal potentially

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much clearer, easier to detect, especially early

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on. It's a strategic move to find the earliest

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possible evidence of our impact. So if we're

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going back in time, hypothetically, with today's

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tech, how did they actually construct this scenario?

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It sounds like something out of science fiction,

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this Gdankin world. It's an ingenious approach,

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this Gdankin world, a thought experiment world.

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To answer the big question, the researchers constructed

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this simulated scenario with some key assumptions.

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OK, what were they? First, they assumed that

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global monitoring of atmospheric temperature

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with the kind of accuracy we achieve today could

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have existed as early as 1860. Wow. So imagine

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super accurate sensors everywhere back in 1860.

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Exactly. A network of highly advanced radiosondes

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or even early satellite -like instruments beaming

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back perfectly accurate data from every corner

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of the globe right from 1860. That's a huge what

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if. What else do they assume about these futuristic

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historical instruments? They went further. Second,

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They assumed that any instruments available back

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then in this hypothetical world would have had

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the same incredible accuracy as today's satellite

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-borne microwave radiometers. The really precise

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ones we use now. Yeah, these sensors measure

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microwave radiation emitted by oxygen molecules,

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allowing for very accurate temperature profiling.

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So this assumption just eliminates any technological

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limitations of the past. It lets them isolate

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just the climate signal itself. And the input

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data for their models, the CO2 levels and stuff.

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Third, they ensured that the climate model simulations

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they used for this historical analysis had access

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to completely reliable estimates of carbon dioxide

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changes. Using the ice core data and direct measurements

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we talked about? Exactly. Drawn from those ice

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core records, and later direct air measurements,

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providing the models with a perfectly accurate

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historical precedent, forcing the driver of the

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change. So armed with this idealized historical

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data and today's super accurate tools, what were

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they actually hoping to achieve with this thought

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experiment? What were the goals? This experiment

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had dual ambitious goals. Primarily, it aimed

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to estimate the detection times of human -caused

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temperature fingerprints across different atmospheric

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layers, stratosphere, troposphere, and across

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various geographical regions. Okay, so when and

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where could it have been detected? Right, but

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it also aimed to understand how those detection

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times would vary based on different choices of

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the assumed start date for this hypothetical

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monitoring. So starting in 1860 versus, say,

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1900. Exactly. They explored a wide range of

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start dates from that initial point in 1860 all

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the way up to 1986. Why 1986? That's when truly

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global satellite records of atmospheric temperature

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change actually began in the real world. So this

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allowed them to see not just when a signal could

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be detected, but how that detection time itself

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shifts depending on when you start observing.

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Fascinating. And central to this whole thing,

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you mentioned a technique called fingerprinting.

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Can you explain that a bit more? How do you fingerprint

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a human climate signal? Yeah, the fingerprinting

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method is really the cornerstone here. It's a

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powerful statistical technique used in climate

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science. Its job is to distinguish human -caused

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climate effects from natural variations. Like

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picking out one voice in a noisy crowd. That's

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a great analogy. Fingerprinting looks for unique

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patterns, like the distinctive sound of a human

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-caused climate signal amidst the background

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noise of natural climate variability. And the

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climate system has a lot of natural noise, right?

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El Nino, volcanoes. Exactly. El Nino, volcanic

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eruptions, solar cycles. This system is inherently

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noisy. So you need a robust way to confidently

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say, OK, this pattern we're seeing isn't just

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natural noise. This is us. So they're looking

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for a specific signature, a specific pattern.

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Precisely. Specifically, this method searches

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for particular model predicted patterns of atmospheric

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temperature change that are characteristic of

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combined human and natural influences. And for

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the human fingerprint, that pattern is? It's

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very distinct, characterized by stratospheric

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cooling and simultaneously tropospheric warming.

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Ah, that vertical structure again. Exactly. It's

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not just a uniform change across the whole atmosphere.

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Yeah. It's a specific vertically differentiated

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structure of warming and cooling that models

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predict our emissions would cause. It's like

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a unique barcode for human influence. And how

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do they know when that signal, that barcode,

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is strong enough to be considered a definitive

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detection, not just a random blip? Good question.

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The confidence in detection relied heavily on

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what scientists call signal -to -noise ratios.

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Okay. Think of our crowded room analogy again.

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If the specific voice you're listening for is

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barely audible, the signal -to -noise ratio is

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low. If the voice gets much louder, or the background

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chatter quiets down, the ratio improves. Makes

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sense. For detection to be considered robust

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in this research, the human -caused signal had

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to be significantly larger than the natural background

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variability. Specifically, the signal -to -noise

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ratio had to remain above a 1 % significance

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level for a sustained period. 1 % significance?

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That sounds pretty strict. It is. It means there's

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less than a 1 % chance that the observed pattern

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is just due to random chance or natural fluctuation.

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It's a very high bar for certainty. Okay, here's

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where it gets truly fascinating. the results

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of this hypothetical experiment, they were absolutely

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startling, weren't they? Especially for the stratosphere.

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So what did this thought experiment, this Kadankan

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world, reveal first? The headline finding, the

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one that really makes you pause, was that a human

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-caused stratospheric cooling signal could have

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been confidently identified by approximately

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1885. 1885. Let that sink in. That's a century

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before many people even started talking about

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climate change seriously. Before cars were common,

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before widespread electricity. How is that even

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possible? It's astonishing, isn't it? That's

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just 25 years after the hypothetical 1860 monitoring

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start date. Just 25 years? And what's more, even

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if this hypothetical monitoring in 1860 hadn't

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been global, say we only had high quality stratospheric

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temperature measurements in a limited region

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like northern hemisphere mid -latitudes, detection

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was still feasible by 1894, yearly 34 years after

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the assumed start. Why that region specifically?

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That region, the northern hemisphere mid -latitudes,

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actually aided early detection because it generally

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exhibits lower natural temperature variability

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in the stratosphere compared to, say, the more

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dynamic polar regions. Ah, so it was a quieter

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place to listen for the signal. Exactly. Made

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it easier to spot the emerging human signal.

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And the scale of the emissions back then compared

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to now, it must have been minuscule. Precisely.

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What makes this even more profound is the scale

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of the change at this early stage. The decadal

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increase in atmospheric CO2 between 1860 and

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1899 was roughly 10 parts per million total.

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OK, 10 ppm over about 40 years. Right. Compare

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that to the first 25 years of the 21st century,

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2020 -25, where CO2 levels shot up by about 50

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parts per million. Wow. So the increase in the

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late 1800s was a factor of nine smaller than

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what we've seen recently. Yet the signal was

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apparently clear enough to be detected in the

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stratosphere, hypothetically. So why the stratosphere

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first? What makes that specific layer so sensitive

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to our emissions, and why does it show this cooling

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signature? It seems backward. Yeah, it seems

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counterintuitive, but there are compelling physical

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reasons. First, as we touched on, anthropogenic

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increases in CO2 lead to a very pronounced cooling

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of the mid to upper stratosphere. Right. Unlike

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the troposphere, which warms. Exactly. Think

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of it this way. CO2 in the troposphere acts like

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a blanket, trapping outgoing heat from the Earth's

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surface. But in the stratosphere, the increasing

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CO2 means more heat is radiated away from the

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stratosphere, directly out into space. So it

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becomes a better radiator at that altitude. Precisely.

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It becomes a more efficient radiator of energy

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from that altitude. Okay, so it's like the CO2

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is acting as a window for heat to escape from

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that specific layer. That's a good way to put

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it. Second, the pattern of this human -caused

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cooling is remarkably distinct. It differs markedly

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from the patterns of natural variability, making

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it easier to pick out. The unique barcode. Right.

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Third, this CO2 -induced stratospheric cooling

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actually amplifies with increasing height. It

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gets even stronger the higher you go into the

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stratosphere. How much cooling are we talking

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about? Over the entire simulated period. From

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1860 to 2024, the multi -model average global

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mean stratosphere cooling ranged from about 1

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.1 degrees Celsius in the lower stratosphere

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to a significant 6 .0 degrees Celsius in the

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upper stratosphere. Six degrees. That's a huge

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temperature shift over time. It is. And the primary

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mechanisms for this cooling involve that increased

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longwave emissivity from CO2 radiating more heat

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away and also ozone losses, particularly later

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in the 20th century. Ozone absorbs solar radiation,

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so less ozone means less absorption, leading

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to further cooling. So multiple factors reinforcing

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that cooling signal. Yes. It's a very clear,

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strong signature that doesn't get easily ground

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out by natural noise, especially compared to

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the troposphere. Okay, so while the stratosphere

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provided this early striking signal, the troposphere...

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the layer closer to home where weather happens

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told a different story. What did the models reveal

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about temperature trends down there? Right, down

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below it's different. Unlike the stratosphere,

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the two tropospheric layers looked at the lower

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and the total troposphere have consistently warmed

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in both the satellite data we have and in the

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climate models. Which is what we generally associate

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with global warming. Exactly. That's the warming

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we feel on the surface, the warming that impacts

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our daily lives. The multimodal average warming

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simulated from 1860 to 2024 for these layers

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was about 1 .2 to 1 .3 degrees Celsius. OK, so

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it was warming down there, too. But. Why wasn't

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the human signal detectable as early as in the

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stratosphere? If it was warming, shouldn't that

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be obvious? Ah, that's the crucial distinction.

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Despite this warming, robust, anthropogenic fingerprint

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identification in the troposphere was not feasible

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with an 1860 monitoring start date and only 40

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years of hypothetical data. Not feasible. Why

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not? The human signal simply wasn't strong enough

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yet to clearly stand out from the natural background

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variability in that layer. The noise was too

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high relative to the signal. So when did it become

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clear in the troposphere according to the models?

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Consistent detection of human fingerprints in

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tropospheric temperature only occurred for assumed

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monitoring start dates on or after 1960. 1960,

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that's a significant delay compared to the 1885

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potential in the stratosphere. A very significant

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delay. So the noisy concert hall analogy really

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holds true here then. The human signal, the warming

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was there, but it was just harder to pick out

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from all the other sounds. Exactly. And the reason

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for this delay is multifaceted. Firstly, as we

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said, the global mean anthropogenic signals are

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generally smaller in magnitude in the troposphere

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compared to the dramatic cooling in the stratosphere.

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OK, smaller signal. Secondly, And this is critical

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for the fingerprinting method. The signal patterns

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from human influence and the noise patterns from

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natural variability are more similar in the troposphere.

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Ah, so they look more alike. Yes, they tend to

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blend more, making it inherently harder to distinguish

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the human influence from natural ups and downs

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early on. Okay. Any other factors? Furthermore,

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the rate of warming in the troposphere only saw

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a really significant increase after approximately

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1980. Why after 1980? This acceleration was partly

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due to controls introduced on anthropogenic sulfur

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emissions, mainly in the late 1970s and early

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80s. Think acid rain regulations. Right, sulfur

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pollution. Prior to those controls, sulfate aerosols

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from human industrial activity actually had a

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damping cooling effect on the troposphere. They

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reflected sunlight. So they were masking some

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of the greenhouse warming. Effectively, yes.

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They were masking some of the underlying warming

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trend from greenhouse gases. Once those aerosols

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were reduced, the greenhouse gas warming signal

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became much more apparent and accelerated. So,

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natural forces and even other human pollutants

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can act as a kind of cloak, temporarily obscuring

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the main CO2 signal. Let's talk more about that

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natural variability. It's not just CO2 driving

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things. How does something like a massive volcanic

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eruption impact this detection process? Volcanoes

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are indeed powerful short -term disruptors. Large

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explosive eruptions think Krakatoa in 1883, Pinatubo

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in 1991. A gum. Right. Those inject vast amounts

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of sulfur dioxide high into the stratosphere.

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This SO2 converts into tiny sulfate aerosols

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that reflect sunlight. Okay, and these cause

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temperature changes. Oh yes. Very distinct short

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-term signals. How do they affect the stratosphere

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specifically? We know CO2 cools it. Right. Volcanoes

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do the opposite, temporarily. In the stratosphere,

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especially the lower stratosphere, where most

00:25:44.220 --> 00:25:46.519
of the volcanic aerosol hangs out, these eruptions

00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.059
cause a temporary warming signal. Warming? Why

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warming there? The aerosols absorb some radiation

00:25:51.470 --> 00:25:53.890
at that altitude. This warming typically lasts

00:25:53.890 --> 00:25:56.349
one to three years. So it's the exact converse

00:25:56.349 --> 00:25:59.069
of the long -term cooling signal from CO2. So

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a volcano could temporarily cancel out or mask

00:26:03.150 --> 00:26:05.809
the human cooling signal there. Exactly. It can

00:26:05.809 --> 00:26:07.690
temporarily counteract the human fingerprint

00:26:07.690 --> 00:26:10.069
in the stratosphere, making it harder to spot,

00:26:10.509 --> 00:26:12.769
like someone briefly turning up background noise.

00:26:12.990 --> 00:26:14.910
And what about down in the troposphere? We usually

00:26:14.910 --> 00:26:17.819
hear volcanoes cause cooling. Correct. Down in

00:26:17.819 --> 00:26:20.180
the troposphere, these same eruptions cause short

00:26:20.180 --> 00:26:22.660
-term cooling signals. This generally lasts a

00:26:22.660 --> 00:26:24.759
bit longer, maybe three to five years. Because

00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:26.839
the aerosols block sunlight from reaching the

00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.279
surface. Precisely. So what this means for our

00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:31.359
detection timeline is that volcanic activity

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can temporarily cause the human signal either

00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:36.539
stratospheric cooling or tropospheric warming

00:26:36.539 --> 00:26:39.500
to dip below the detection threshold. Briefly

00:26:39.500 --> 00:26:42.180
delaying recognition. Yes. For instance, the

00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:44.400
study notes that the massive Krakatoa eruption

00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:46.880
caused a noticeable dip in the signal -to -noise

00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:51.400
ratios around 1883 -1885, momentarily obscuring

00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.680
the human fingerprint just as it was trying to

00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.529
emerge in that hypothetical 1885 detection scenario.

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Interesting. And the troposphere cooling lasts

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longer? Tends to, yes. Volcanic temperature signals

00:27:03.730 --> 00:27:05.890
generally persist longer in the troposphere than

00:27:05.890 --> 00:27:08.750
the stratosphere, largely due to the huge thermal

00:27:08.750 --> 00:27:11.150
inertia of the ocean. Ah, the ocean takes longer

00:27:11.150 --> 00:27:13.789
to cool down and then warm back up. Exactly.

00:27:13.970 --> 00:27:15.789
It holds onto that volcanic chill for longer.

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Okay, so volcanoes are big short shocks. What

00:27:19.130 --> 00:27:22.009
other natural forces create this noise or maybe

00:27:22.009 --> 00:27:23.990
ripples in the signal? I'm thinking about the

00:27:23.990 --> 00:27:26.619
sun itself. Does solar activity play a role?

00:27:26.940 --> 00:27:29.539
Excellent point. Yes, beyond volcanoes, solar

00:27:29.539 --> 00:27:32.440
variability also plays an important role, primarily

00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.000
through its roughly 11 -year cycle. The sunspot

00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.359
cycle. Right. The total solar irradiance, or

00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:42.119
TSI, the total amount of solar energy Earth receives

00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:44.859
fluctuates slightly on this rhythm. It varies

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by a small percentage. And that affects temperature.

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It does. This fluctuation causes coherent stratospheric

00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:53.140
warming during periods of high TSI when the Sun

00:27:53.140 --> 00:27:55.880
is more active and corresponding cooling during

00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.920
periods of low TSI. Okay, so the Sun's activity

00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.200
can either help or hinder us in spotting the

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:04.160
human CO2 signal in the stratosphere. Precisely.

00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.880
This natural solar forcing can either reinforce

00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.119
the human -caused CO2 cooling if the sun is in

00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.880
a cooling phase, or partially offset it if the

00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.640
sun is in a warming phase. Making the human signal

00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.119
easier or harder to detect. Exactly. It influences

00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.259
the strength and clarity of the human signal,

00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.180
especially for those early monitoring start dates

00:28:26.180 --> 00:28:28.539
when the anthropogenic signal was relatively

00:28:28.539 --> 00:28:31.019
smaller. It's like another instrument in our

00:28:31.019 --> 00:28:33.920
orchestra, either playing in harmony or slightly

00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.789
out of tune with our target CO2 sound. And it's

00:28:36.789 --> 00:28:39.670
not just the regular 11 -year cycle itself, is

00:28:39.670 --> 00:28:41.789
it? There are longer -term variations. That's

00:28:41.789 --> 00:28:43.970
right. It's not just the cycle. Longer term,

00:28:44.150 --> 00:28:46.410
lower frequency changes in the amplitude of this

00:28:46.410 --> 00:28:49.630
11 -year solar cycle can also cause what the

00:28:49.630 --> 00:28:52.150
researchers call ripples in the human signal

00:28:52.150 --> 00:28:54.970
strength and the detection times. Ripples, meaning?

00:28:55.089 --> 00:28:57.029
Meaning, the time required for detection doesn't

00:28:57.029 --> 00:28:59.329
always just get shorter and shorter as you start

00:28:59.329 --> 00:29:01.630
monitoring later. Sometimes, because of these

00:29:01.630 --> 00:29:03.569
solar variations, it might take slightly longer

00:29:03.569 --> 00:29:06.250
to reach detection for a later start date compared

00:29:06.250 --> 00:29:08.170
to an earlier one. Can you give an example? Sure.

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The study found that for a hypothetical 1920

00:29:11.109 --> 00:29:13.809
start date, It actually took a bit longer to

00:29:13.809 --> 00:29:16.069
detect the signal compared to a 1900 start tape.

00:29:16.710 --> 00:29:18.109
Part of the reason was that the period following

00:29:18.109 --> 00:29:21.529
1920 sampled larger amplitude solar cycles, meaning

00:29:21.529 --> 00:29:24.150
more pronounced solar warming periods that counteracted

00:29:24.150 --> 00:29:27.789
the CO2 cooling. Another ripple occurred for

00:29:27.789 --> 00:29:30.029
analysis periods ending near a solar maximum

00:29:30.029 --> 00:29:33.069
in the late 1930s. This caused the signal -to

00:29:33.069 --> 00:29:35.430
-noise ratios to temporarily diff below that

00:29:35.430 --> 00:29:38.269
significance threshold, thereby delaying fingerprint

00:29:38.269 --> 00:29:40.309
detection for start dates around that time. So

00:29:40.309 --> 00:29:42.789
it illustrates how these natural solar forces,

00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:44.690
even though they're smaller in magnitude over

00:29:44.690 --> 00:29:47.190
the long haul compared to greenhouse gases, can

00:29:47.190 --> 00:29:49.410
still influence the precise timing of when a

00:29:49.410 --> 00:29:51.809
human signal becomes statistically undeniable.

00:29:51.950 --> 00:29:54.230
Exactly. They add complexity to the detection

00:29:54.230 --> 00:29:57.390
timeline. Okay, so given the hypothetical nature

00:29:57.390 --> 00:30:00.069
of this Gdankin world and all these complexities

00:30:00.069 --> 00:30:03.309
with natural variability, how much confidence

00:30:03.309 --> 00:30:06.109
can we really place in these findings, especially

00:30:06.109 --> 00:30:09.049
those really early detection times like 1885?

00:30:09.660 --> 00:30:12.640
The reliability seems to hinge on how accurately

00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:16.099
the climate models estimate that natural internal

00:30:16.099 --> 00:30:18.579
variability, the noise. That's absolutely right.

00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.559
If the models underestimate the noise, wouldn't

00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.700
that make the signal look clearer earlier than

00:30:23.700 --> 00:30:25.220
it really would have been? How do we know the

00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:27.240
models are getting the noise right? That's a

00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.619
critical question for any modeling study like

00:30:29.619 --> 00:30:32.480
this. You have to validate the model's background

00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.559
variability. So how did they check? Well, for

00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:37.220
tropospheric temperature, there have been quite

00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:39.359
a few studies using multiple climate models,

00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.220
and they generally suggest that systematic underestimates

00:30:42.220 --> 00:30:44.819
of decadal internal variability are not a major

00:30:44.819 --> 00:30:47.799
concern. Okay. When we compare observed variability

00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.099
in the troposphere using our satellite data,

00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:53.400
it generally aligns quite well within the range

00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.619
of variability the models produce in their control

00:30:55.619 --> 00:30:58.000
runs. Control runs being simulations without

00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:00.700
human influence. Exactly. They just run the model

00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:03.039
with natural factors to see its inherent variability.

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.319
The fact that the model's natural variability

00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.960
matches what we actually observe in the troposphere

00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.619
gives us pretty good confidence in the tropospheric

00:31:10.619 --> 00:31:13.359
findings and detection times. OK, confidence

00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.779
is good for the troposphere. What about the stratosphere,

00:31:16.859 --> 00:31:18.619
though? That's where the really early detection

00:31:18.619 --> 00:31:21.240
happened. Is the confidence as high there? The

00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.440
stratosphere, however, presents a bit more nuance.

00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:28.059
There are simply fewer direct long -term comparisons

00:31:28.059 --> 00:31:30.420
available for stratospheric temperature variability

00:31:30.420 --> 00:31:33.779
between models and observations. Less data to

00:31:33.779 --> 00:31:36.299
compare against. Essentially, yes. We just haven't

00:31:36.299 --> 00:31:38.019
been observing the stratosphere globally for

00:31:38.019 --> 00:31:40.990
as long or as comprehensively. Now, while some

00:31:40.990 --> 00:31:43.710
studies show models sometimes have smaller variability

00:31:43.710 --> 00:31:46.130
in their control runs compared to observations.

00:31:46.390 --> 00:31:48.730
Which would support the idea of maybe detecting

00:31:48.730 --> 00:31:51.309
too early. Right. But it's also true that the

00:31:51.309 --> 00:31:53.990
observed variability, the real world noise, can

00:31:53.990 --> 00:31:56.329
sometimes be inflated by factors that aren't

00:31:56.329 --> 00:31:59.329
fully included in the standard historical simulations

00:31:59.329 --> 00:32:01.789
used for fingerprinting. Like what? For instance,

00:32:02.170 --> 00:32:05.470
specific unusual volcanic eruptions, like the

00:32:05.470 --> 00:32:09.690
huge Hungatanga event in January 2022. that injected

00:32:09.690 --> 00:32:12.589
massive amounts of water vapor into the stratosphere,

00:32:13.150 --> 00:32:15.369
causing unusual temperature effects not typically

00:32:15.369 --> 00:32:18.789
simulated. Or, there might be small mismatches

00:32:18.789 --> 00:32:20.769
in the assumed solar forcing used in the models

00:32:20.769 --> 00:32:22.990
versus what actually happened, especially in

00:32:22.990 --> 00:32:26.309
recent years after 2014. These things can make

00:32:26.309 --> 00:32:29.109
the real world appear noisier. than the models

00:32:29.109 --> 00:32:32.450
might otherwise predict based only on CO2 standard

00:32:32.450 --> 00:32:35.150
volcanoes and solar cycles. So it's complex.

00:32:35.230 --> 00:32:36.890
There might be slight underestimates of model

00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:38.950
noise, but also factors making the real world

00:32:38.950 --> 00:32:41.069
seem noisier than the model baseline. Exactly.

00:32:41.109 --> 00:32:44.009
It's a nuanced picture. So despite these nuances,

00:32:44.269 --> 00:32:46.730
how robust is the conclusion that a human fingerprint

00:32:46.730 --> 00:32:49.970
could have been detected so early back in 1885

00:32:49.970 --> 00:32:52.630
in the stratosphere? Does the uncertainty undermine

00:32:52.630 --> 00:32:55.140
that finding? That's the key question. And the

00:32:55.140 --> 00:32:57.599
answer, based on this research, is that the conclusion

00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.460
remains incredibly robust. How so? Even if there

00:33:00.460 --> 00:33:03.180
were some degree of underestimate of stratospheric

00:33:03.180 --> 00:33:06.099
variability in the models, the observed and modeled

00:33:06.099 --> 00:33:09.859
stratospheric cooling trends are just so substantial,

00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.180
so large. The signal is huge. The signal is huge.

00:33:13.900 --> 00:33:16.160
Model variability would need to be biased low

00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.099
by an order of magnitude, a factor of 10, to

00:33:19.099 --> 00:33:21.940
fully explain away those cooling trends as just

00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:24.660
natural variability. A factor of 10 error? That

00:33:24.660 --> 00:33:27.599
seems unlikely. Highly unlikely, based on everything

00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:29.920
we know about atmospheric physics and model performance.

00:33:30.740 --> 00:33:33.680
In fact, if you recalculate the signal -to -noise

00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.519
ratios using the observed variability instead

00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.160
of the model's internal variability, the ratios

00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.859
remain incredibly strong. How strong? They reach

00:33:41.859 --> 00:33:44.140
levels of certainty comparable to what scientists

00:33:44.140 --> 00:33:47.519
call five sigma in physics. That's the level

00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.480
often used to confirm the discovery of a new

00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.140
particle, like the Higgs boson. Wow. So virtually

00:33:52.140 --> 00:33:55.000
impossible for it to be just random chance. Essentially,

00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.200
yes. Yeah. The signal is that clear in the stratosphere.

00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.039
OK. And what about when global satellite records

00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.779
actually began in the real world around 1986?

00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.480
Did the signal become even clearer then across

00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.779
the board? Absolutely. That's another striking

00:34:07.779 --> 00:34:11.699
result. For monitoring, starting in 1986, when

00:34:11.699 --> 00:34:14.000
we actually got comprehensive global satellite

00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.440
data, The human fingerprint was detectable with

00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.559
high confidence across all atmospheric layers

00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.679
stratosphere and troposphere and across all geographical

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.440
regions Everywhere and every single one of the

00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.000
32 different climate model simulations used in

00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.599
the study every single model run showed it every

00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.679
single one And this is true despite the significant

00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.619
counteracting effects of the 1991 Mount Pinatubo

00:34:37.619 --> 00:34:40.760
eruption, which, as we discussed, initially warmed

00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:42.619
the stratosphere and cooled the troposphere.

00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.179
So even with that huge volcanic disruption? Even

00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:48.139
with Pinatubo's disruption, the underlying anthropogenic

00:34:48.139 --> 00:34:51.159
signal was simply strong enough to emerge clearly

00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.059
through that substantial natural noise by that

00:34:54.059 --> 00:34:56.699
point. It provides overwhelming confidence in

00:34:56.699 --> 00:34:58.579
the detection methods and the strength of the

00:34:58.579 --> 00:35:00.980
human signal, especially from the 1980s onwards.

00:35:01.309 --> 00:35:03.869
The message seems clear then. The human signal,

00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:06.110
particularly in the stratosphere, is powerful,

00:35:06.489 --> 00:35:08.730
it's distinct, and it has been for a very long

00:35:08.730 --> 00:35:10.980
time. That sums it up well. This entire thought

00:35:10.980 --> 00:35:13.699
experiment provides truly compelling evidence.

00:35:14.139 --> 00:35:16.480
It suggests that with suitable high -quality

00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.079
temperature measurements, the kind we hypothetically

00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.239
gave the past a discernible human influence on

00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.699
global climate could have been detected way back,

00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:27.059
maybe by the end of the 19th century. And this

00:35:27.059 --> 00:35:28.980
isn't just a hypothetical could have been, is

00:35:28.980 --> 00:35:33.449
it? It underscores a profound reality. Significant

00:35:33.449 --> 00:35:36.210
human interference with Earth's climate is not

00:35:36.210 --> 00:35:38.909
some new phenomenon of the late 20th or 21st

00:35:38.909 --> 00:35:41.309
century. Not at all. It has been present and

00:35:41.309 --> 00:35:45.070
leaving its mark for over 130 years. It's a critical

00:35:45.070 --> 00:35:47.429
reframing of the timeline, isn't it? And consider

00:35:47.429 --> 00:35:50.889
the stark contrast. Those relatively small CO2

00:35:50.889 --> 00:35:53.550
increases in the late 1800s were apparently enough

00:35:53.550 --> 00:35:56.269
to leave a clear identifiable mark on the stratosphere.

00:35:56.269 --> 00:35:59.630
Right. Whereas today, our increases are far more

00:35:59.630 --> 00:36:01.989
rapid, far more extensive, and far more impactful

00:36:01.989 --> 00:36:04.710
across the entire climate system. This historical

00:36:04.710 --> 00:36:07.670
perspective really gives us pause. It forces

00:36:07.670 --> 00:36:10.789
us to recognize the long -term cumulative consequences

00:36:10.789 --> 00:36:13.369
of our industrial advancements and just how far

00:36:13.369 --> 00:36:16.349
back our planetary influence truly extends. And

00:36:16.349 --> 00:36:19.269
this leads us directly to the critical need for

00:36:19.269 --> 00:36:21.889
continued observation, especially these upper

00:36:21.889 --> 00:36:24.389
atmospheric layers that gave the earliest signals.

00:36:24.909 --> 00:36:27.429
Why is it so crucial to keep monitoring given

00:36:27.429 --> 00:36:30.889
this long history? Well, the findings powerfully

00:36:30.889 --> 00:36:34.570
emphasize the indispensable importance of continuous,

00:36:34.869 --> 00:36:37.190
high -quality monitoring of the upper atmosphere.

00:36:37.789 --> 00:36:40.389
These atmospheric temperature changes, particularly

00:36:40.389 --> 00:36:43.030
the stratosphere cooling and tropospheric warming

00:36:43.030 --> 00:36:46.130
patterns, they aren't just indicators of our

00:36:46.130 --> 00:36:49.230
current climate state. They also serve as early,

00:36:49.309 --> 00:36:52.309
sensitive signals of the success or, unfortunately,

00:36:52.730 --> 00:36:54.690
the failure of our climate mitigation efforts.

00:36:54.750 --> 00:36:57.519
A real -time report card. Exactly. A real -time

00:36:57.519 --> 00:36:59.659
report card on how our actions are impacting

00:36:59.659 --> 00:37:01.920
the planet's energy balance. It allows us to

00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.420
see if policy changes, technological advancements,

00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.340
emission reductions, are they truly making a

00:37:07.340 --> 00:37:09.199
difference in the atmosphere. And are there concerns

00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.739
that this vital monitoring capability might be

00:37:11.739 --> 00:37:14.710
at risk? Unfortunately, yes. There are always

00:37:14.710 --> 00:37:17.349
concerns when budget discussions happen around

00:37:17.349 --> 00:37:19.530
crucial climate satellites and vital research

00:37:19.530 --> 00:37:22.369
programs. We've seen discussions around proposals

00:37:22.369 --> 00:37:26.150
affecting major scientific agencies like the

00:37:26.150 --> 00:37:28.570
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

00:37:28.570 --> 00:37:32.050
or NOAA. Right, NOAA and NASA. And the National

00:37:32.050 --> 00:37:34.849
Aeronautics and Space Administration, yes, and

00:37:34.849 --> 00:37:37.349
even the Department of Energy. Proposals that

00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:40.639
if enacted, could potentially impact this long

00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:42.920
-term monitoring capability. In what way? For

00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:44.539
instance, we've heard about potential proposals

00:37:44.539 --> 00:37:47.239
that could, say, eliminate parts of the National

00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.679
Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's research

00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.199
division, which handles critical CO2 monitoring,

00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:54.900
or discussions about maybe cutting some climate

00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:57.420
-relevant satellite missions, or even stripping

00:37:57.420 --> 00:38:00.059
future National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

00:38:00.059 --> 00:38:02.519
satellites of specific climate science sensors.

00:38:02.750 --> 00:38:04.969
So essentially we're talking about potentially

00:38:04.969 --> 00:38:08.070
flying blind to some extent, reducing our ability

00:38:08.070 --> 00:38:10.670
to see these changes. That's the worry. When

00:38:10.670 --> 00:38:12.909
we lose the capability to measure and monitor

00:38:12.909 --> 00:38:14.849
how our world is changing, particularly these

00:38:14.849 --> 00:38:17.849
sensitive atmospheric indicators, it undeniably

00:38:17.849 --> 00:38:21.190
makes us all less safe. How so? It hinders our

00:38:21.190 --> 00:38:22.849
fundamental understanding of what's happening.

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It weakens our predictive abilities for the planet's

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future. And it leaves us more vulnerable to change

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that we can't fully anticipate or prepare for.

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It's like dimming the lights in a rapidly changing

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room. We just lose our ability to navigate effectively.

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And looking ahead. The projections for future

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changes in atmospheric temperature, say over

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the next 26 years to 2050, they're even larger

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than the changes simulated for the period from

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1986 to 2024 that we just discussed. That's right.

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The rate of change is projected to continue or

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even accelerate under many scenarios. So this

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research, showing detection was possible over

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a century ago, serves as a really stark reminder

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that humanity is now more than ever right at

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the threshold of what the UN Framework Convention

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on Climate Change calls dangerous anthropogenic

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interference with the climate system. Indeed.

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We are right there. The choices we make collectively

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and individually in the very near future, like

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this decade, will likely determine whether or

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not we cross that critical threshold into truly

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dangerous and potentially irreversible territory.

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It's not a problem for the distant future anymore.

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Not at all. It's a challenge unfolding in real

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time, requiring immediate attention and informed

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decision making based on the best possible science

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and observations. We've walked through a truly

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captivating scientific thought experiment today

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on meteorology matters, revealing that humanity's

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impact on atmospheric temperature might have

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been detectable over 130 years ago. It's just

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a powerful reminder of how long our actions have

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been shaping the very air around us. A long shadow.

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It really raises a profound question, doesn't

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it? If scientists back in 1885 had truly understood

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the full implications of what that stratospheric

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cooling signal meant, if they'd had today's clarity,

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would it have prompted human societies to follow

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a different path, a more sustainable one? It's

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impossible to know. But it's a sobering thought.

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And what does that tell us about our responsibility

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to act on the knowledge, the much clearer knowledge

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that we possess today? Something to think about.

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Now, if you're curious to learn more about the

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complexities of our atmosphere, the forces shaping

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our planet's weather, and want to keep up with

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current meteorology, you'll definitely want to

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follow our very own meteorologist, Rob Jones.

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He does great work. He does. You can find Rob

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on Instagram. Just search for meteorologist.

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Pretty easy to remember. On TikTok, he's TV Meteorologist,

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and over on YouTube, follow his channel, Rob

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Jones Hurricane. And you can also find the Meteorology

00:40:48.139 --> 00:40:50.619
Matters podcast playlist there for more episodes

00:40:50.619 --> 00:40:53.360
like this one. Great resources to stay informed.

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Definitely. Well, thank you for joining us on

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this exploration today. We really hope this Meteorology

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Matters deep dive into the historical detection

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of human climate influence sparks further curiosity

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and critical thinking for you. Until next time,

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keep looking up.
