1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,440 Welcome back to Meteorology Matters, everyone. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,400 Today we're gonna be looking at some changes happening 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,160 at the National Oceanic Atmosphere Administration. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,320 Oh. 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,800 Changes that could really have an impact on all of us. 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,720 For sure, especially when severe weather strikes. 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,520 It's so easy to take weather forecasting for granted. 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,200 It is, we check our phones for the latest updates, 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,240 but most people don't think about 10 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:25,760 the intricate network of technology, the expertise, 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,800 the resources that go into creating those forecasts. 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Yeah, it's a massive undertaking. 13 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,400 It is. 14 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,360 And NOAA is at the heart of it all. 15 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,200 At the heart of it. 16 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,040 They're not just telling us 17 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,120 whether we need an umbrella. 18 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:36,960 Right. 19 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,800 They're the ones responsible for predicting 20 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,160 and issuing warnings about hurricanes, tornadoes, 21 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:45,600 blizzards, all the events that can really disrupt our lives 22 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,640 cause serious damage, put us in danger. 23 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,080 And the thing is the National Oceanic Atmosphere 24 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,960 Administration's role is becoming even more vital 25 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,280 as we face the increasing reality of climate change. 26 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Oh, for sure. 27 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,080 We're seeing more extreme weather events, 28 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,480 more intense storms, and a greater need 29 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,120 for accurate timely forecasts to help us prepare 30 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,160 and stay safe. 31 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,520 At this critical moment though, 32 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,760 NOAA is facing major hurdles. 33 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Yeah. 34 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Due to the efforts from the Department of Government 35 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Efficiency, or DOGE, to cut costs 36 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,000 and streamline government agencies. 37 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,840 DOGE operates under a mandate to reduce government spending 38 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,360 and increase efficiency. 39 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Okay. 40 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,640 Their approach, however, has been criticized by some 41 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,840 as being too heavy handed, particularly when it comes 42 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,360 to the National Oceanic Atmosphere Administration. 43 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,040 So for example, DOGE has pushed for lease cancellations 44 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,440 on several key facilities. 45 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,280 I have. 46 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,400 One of those is the Center for Weather and Climate 47 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,760 Prediction, which is essentially the nerve center 48 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,360 for the National Weather Service. 49 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,800 This is where forecasters monitor weather patterns. 50 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Yeah. 51 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Analyze data, issue those critical warnings we rely on. 52 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,400 And it doesn't stop there. 53 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,240 Oh, no. 54 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,360 They're also targeting the Radar Operations Center 55 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,800 in Oklahoma, which is responsible for maintaining 56 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,120 and repairing the network of Doppler weather radars 57 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,240 across the country. 58 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,560 Those radars are our eyes on the storms, 59 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,120 allowing us to track their movement and intensity 60 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,240 in real time. 61 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,080 Yeah. 62 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Without a fully functioning radar operations center, 63 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,760 our ability to forecast accurately and issue timely 64 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,680 warnings would be significantly hampered. 65 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,520 It's almost like they're dismantling the very 66 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,680 infrastructure that keeps us safe from severe weather. 67 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,520 It's a concern. 68 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,120 And then there's the impact on personnel. 69 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Oh, yeah. 70 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280 NOAA has already let go hundreds of employees, 71 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,440 including many highly skilled specialists in forecasting 72 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,760 research communication. 73 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Oh, wow. 74 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,360 This loss of expertise is deeply concerning. 75 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,800 We're talking about the meteorologists 76 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,600 who interpret the data, the scientists who conduct 77 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,320 critical research on weather patterns and climate change, 78 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,200 and the communicators who get this vital information out 79 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,440 to the public in a timely and understandable way. 80 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,360 To put it bluntly, this could have life or death consequences. 81 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,160 It really could. 82 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Imagine a major hurricane bearing down on the coast. 83 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:55,600 Right. 84 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,360 And the very people we depend on to track the storm, 85 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,400 predict its path, and warn communities in its path 86 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,840 are no longer there. 87 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,760 It's a terrifying thought. 88 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,400 It's a very real possibility. 89 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,240 And we don't have to imagine it. 90 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,080 No, we don't. 91 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,920 We're seeing the potential consequences play out right now. 92 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:11,760 Right in front of us. 93 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,280 A major storm system is currently developing 94 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,560 with the potential to impact a huge swath of the country. 95 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Huge. 96 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,120 We're talking severe thunderstorms, possible tornadoes, 97 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,880 blizzards, heavy rain, the whole gamut of weather hazards. 98 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,480 It's a serious situation. 99 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,280 And this storm is the first major test for NOAA 100 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,360 since these cuts were implemented. 101 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,120 It's a real-time illustration of how 102 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,520 a weakened, national oceanic atmosphere administration 103 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,520 could impact our ability to prepare for and respond 104 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,640 to severe weather events. 105 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,600 This storm has the potential to cause major disruptions 106 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,720 from widespread power outages to flight cancellations 107 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,360 and even potential flooding. 108 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,280 There's even a chance it could hit New Orleans right 109 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,840 in the middle of Mardi Gras, which would put an enormous number 110 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:55,800 of people at risk. 111 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,400 The timing couldn't be worse. 112 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,480 This particular storm highlights the urgency 113 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,840 of the situation. 114 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,000 We're already seeing more frequent and intense weather 115 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,400 events due to climate change. 116 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,360 We are. 117 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,800 And a robust, fully staffed NOAA is absolutely 118 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,200 essential to helping us navigate these challenges. 119 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,280 It's not just about knowing if you need an umbrella 120 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,560 when you leave the house. 121 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,880 This is about having the resources and expertise 122 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,760 to keep Americans safe from increasingly dangerous weather 123 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:20,280 events. 124 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:21,720 And the cuts go even deeper. 125 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,600 They do. 126 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,280 The DOGE has also targeted NOAA's advisory committees, 127 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:29,440 which provide expert guidance on a wide range of issues, 128 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,880 from space debris to climate change, coastal management, 129 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,160 and marine fisheries. 130 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,680 These committees are made up of scientists and experts 131 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,600 from various fields who volunteer their time and knowledge 132 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,240 to ensure that NOAA is operating with the best available 133 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,880 science and making informed decisions. 134 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Terminating these committees further isolates NOAA 135 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,320 and limits their access to vital external input. 136 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,880 The concern from many scientists and policymakers 137 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,440 is that these cuts driven by short-term budget considerations 138 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,160 will have severe long-term consequences for public safety, 139 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,800 the economy, and the United States global leadership 140 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,160 in science and technology. 141 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,920 The question now is, what are those consequences? 142 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,960 And what can we do about them? 143 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,600 We'll delve deeper into those questions in just a moment. 144 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,160 But first, a quick reminder that meteorologist Rob Jones 145 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,320 is a fantastic resource for staying informed about weather 146 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,640 and climate issues. 147 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,360 You can find him on Instagram at meteorologist on TikTok, 148 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,920 at TV meteorologist, and on YouTube, 149 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,720 follow Rob Jones' hurricane. 150 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,960 And be sure to check out the Meteorology Matters podcast 151 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,280 playlist on his YouTube channel. 152 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:34,480 We'll be back after a short break 153 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,400 to discuss the potential long-term impacts of these actions 154 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,880 on the future of American science 155 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,920 and what you, the listener, can do to stay informed 156 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,360 and make your voice heard. 157 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,160 Welcome back to Meteorology Matters before the break. 158 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,640 We were talking about the pretty concerning situation 159 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,360 at the National Oceanic Atmosphere Administration. 160 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,360 Yeah, we were talking about how these budget cuts 161 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,920 and staff reductions could have real consequences 162 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,920 for public safety as we face more extreme weather events 163 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,920 because of climate change. 164 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,120 It's kind of like trying to fight a growing fire 165 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,440 with a shrinking hose. 166 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,640 Yeah, that's a really good analogy. 167 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,600 Climate change is already intensifying weather patterns. 168 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Heat waves are becoming more frequent and longer lasting. 169 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,280 Oh, yeah. 170 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:15,840 Rainfall events are leading to more flooding 171 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:18,120 and hurricane seasons are becoming more intense 172 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,560 and prolonged. 173 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,960 We need a strong NOAA now, more than ever, 174 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,080 yet it's being systematically weakened. 175 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,280 Yeah, it's a paradox, right? 176 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:29,440 Just when we need NOAA to be at its best, 177 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,560 it's being forced to do more with less. 178 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Exactly. 179 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,240 So what are the long-term implications? 180 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,560 What are the experts saying? 181 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,160 Scientists are very worried about the repercussions, 182 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,960 especially when it comes to the future of American science. 183 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 The National Oceanic Atmosphere Administration 184 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,800 has been a global leader in climate research 185 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,120 and weather forecasting for decades. 186 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,800 These cuts threaten to undermine that leadership 187 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,560 and erode our ability to understand 188 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,280 and predict these complex systems. 189 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:55,920 Yeah, it's not just about the science itself. 190 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,560 It's about the people who do the science, right? 191 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,960 The expertise, the years of experience, 192 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:01,840 the institutional knowledge. 193 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:05,240 Those things are so valuable and so difficult to replace. 194 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,080 Absolutely. 195 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,880 These cuts are leading to a brain drain at XERTIV. 196 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,320 NOAA experienced scientists are leaving discouraged 197 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,240 by the lack of support and resources, 198 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,560 and talented young scientists are hesitant 199 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,480 to join an agency facing such uncertainty. 200 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,280 This loss of expertise and talent has a ripple effect 201 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,400 impacting research innovation and our overall capacity 202 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,600 to address the challenges of a changing climate. 203 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,120 So we're losing ground at a time 204 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,640 when we need to be pushing forward. 205 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Yes. 206 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,520 So what does this mean for our ability 207 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,040 to understand and mitigate the impacts of climate change? 208 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,200 Well, it's a major setback. 209 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,800 NOAA plays a crucial role in monitoring climate change, 210 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,760 collecting vital data from around the globe, 211 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,760 developing and refining climate models, 212 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,480 and providing the scientific foundation 213 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,880 for informed decision-making weakening. 214 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,560 NOAA hampers our ability to understand the scope 215 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,920 and scale of climate change, 216 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,680 and to develop effective strategies 217 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,760 for adaptation and mitigation. 218 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Feels like we're taking a giant step backward, 219 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,000 both in terms of scientific progress 220 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,720 and in our ability to protect ourselves 221 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,320 from these increasingly severe weather events 222 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,960 that climate change is bringing. 223 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,680 And what about the economic consequences? 224 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:07,720 We touched on this earlier, 225 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,640 but I think it's worth exploring further. 226 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,280 A strong economy depends on reliable weather forecasting. 227 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,120 You're absolutely right. 228 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,640 The economic impacts could be significant, 229 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,520 and far-reaching, accurate weather forecasts 230 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,280 are essential for so many industries, 231 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,320 from agriculture and transportation to energy production 232 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,600 and tourism businesses rely on these forecasts 233 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,240 to make informed decisions about planting 234 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,640 and harvesting shipping 235 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,880 and logistics energy distribution, 236 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,680 even planning outdoor events. 237 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:36,920 If they can't rely on accurate forecasts, 238 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,560 they can lead to disruptions, delays, lost revenue, 239 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:41,920 and even put people's livelihoods at risk. 240 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,680 Imagine a farmer who plants a crop based on a faulty forecast 241 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,440 only to lose the entire harvest 242 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,360 to an unexpected drought or frost. 243 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,880 Or a shipping company that reroutes cargo 244 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,040 to avoid a storm that never materializes 245 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,360 incurring unnecessary costs and delays. 246 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,800 There are just a couple of examples, 247 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,880 and let's not forget about the potential impact 248 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,360 on disaster preparedness and response. 249 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,480 If NOAA is weakened, we're less prepared 250 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,720 to respond effectively to hurricanes, floods, 251 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,680 wildfires, and other disasters. 252 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:11,600 That means more damage, greater economic losses, 253 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,040 and potentially even more lives lost. 254 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,600 It's a sobering thought, 255 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,600 and it underscores just how interconnected these issues are. 256 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,640 A weakened, national oceanic atmosphere administration 257 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,080 doesn't just impact weather forecasting. 258 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,400 It has a cascading effect on our economy, our safety, 259 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,120 and our ability to cope with the challenges 260 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,280 of a changing climate. 261 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,000 And it's not just NOAA that's being targeted. 262 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,360 The Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, 263 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,840 which plays a critical role in disaster response 264 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,360 and recovery, is also facing significant budget cuts. 265 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,480 FEMA, the agency that helps communities pick up the pieces 266 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,600 after disaster strikes. 267 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,440 That's the one. 268 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,920 They're the ones who provide shelter food, 269 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,920 medical assistance, and support to get people back 270 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,200 on their feet cutting their budget at a time 271 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,360 when we're facing more frequent and intense disasters. 272 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,960 Seems incredibly short-sighted. 273 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,120 It is. It's like dismantling the lifeboats on a ship 274 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,000 that's sailing into increasingly stormy seas. 275 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,280 We've painted a pretty bleak picture so far, 276 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,360 and I admit it's all pretty disheartening. 277 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,480 It feels like we're heading in the wrong direction. 278 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,400 But you mentioned earlier that we're not powerless. 279 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,040 What can we as individuals, as concerned citizens, 280 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,120 do to make a difference? 281 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,560 That's the crucial question, and I'm glad you asked it. 282 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:21,720 We are not powerless. 283 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,560 We can make our voices heard, and we can advocate for policies 284 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:27,400 that support science resilience and a future 285 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,360 where we're prepared to face the challenges 286 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,000 of a changing world. 287 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,800 So what are the concrete steps we can take? 288 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,960 Give us some practical advice. 289 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,720 Where do we start? 290 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,360 One of the most effective things we can do 291 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,200 is contact our elected officials 292 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,720 and let them know that we support NOAA 293 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,040 and other science agencies. 294 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Let them know that we value accurate weather forecasting, 295 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,880 robust climate research, and effective disaster preparedness. 296 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,560 Write to your representatives, call their offices, 297 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,800 attend town hall meetings, and engage in respectful dialogue 298 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,160 about these issues. 299 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,560 Make your voice heard. 300 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:57,880 Make it clear that these issues matter to you, 301 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,640 and hold your elected officials accountable 302 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,720 for making decisions that prioritize science safety 303 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,840 and long-term well-being over short-term political 304 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,040 or budgetary games. 305 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Exactly. 306 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,600 We can also support organizations 307 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,560 that advocate for science and science-based policy. 308 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:14,080 There are many great groups out there, 309 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,120 both national and local, that are doing important work 310 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,440 to defend science, promote scientific literacy, 311 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,600 and advocate for policies that are grounded 312 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,240 in evidence and expertise. 313 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,400 These organizations rely on public support 314 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,920 to continue their work. 315 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,680 So consider donating your time money or expertise 316 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:33,120 to a cause that aligns with your values, 317 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,960 knowledge is power, and staying informed is crucial. 318 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:36,800 Absolutely. 319 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:37,720 Stay informed about the issues. 320 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,760 Read articles from reputable sources, 321 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,200 follow experts on social media, 322 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,080 and engage in conversations about these topics 323 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,960 with your friends, family, and community. 324 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,400 The more we talk about these issues, 325 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,640 the more awareness we raise, 326 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,440 and the more likely we are to see change. 327 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,240 Remember, change doesn't happen overnight. 328 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,040 It takes time, effort, persistence, 329 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,280 and a collective will to push for a better future. 330 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,400 But if we work together, we can make a difference. 331 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,000 We can ensure that NOAA and other vital agencies 332 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,160 have the resources and support they need 333 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,800 to protect us from the storms ahead, 334 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,200 both literally and figuratively. 335 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,360 This whole situation raises some profound questions 336 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,000 about our priorities as a nation. 337 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,760 How do we balance the need for fiscal responsibility 338 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,760 with the importance of investing in science 339 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,920 and public safety? 340 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,840 How do we ensure that our leaders make decisions 341 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,680 based on evidence and expertise, 342 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,520 rather than ideology or short-term political gain? 343 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,680 These are tough questions, 344 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:32,360 but there are questions we need to be asking ourselves, 345 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,720 and we need to be demanding answers 346 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,000 from our elected officials. 347 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,480 We need to have a national conversation 348 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,160 about the role of science in our society 349 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,080 and the importance of protecting the institutions 350 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,320 that safeguard our well-being. 351 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,840 And we need to remember that this isn't just about science, 352 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:44,920 it's about our values. 353 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,960 It's about what we prioritize as a nation. 354 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,840 Do we value knowledge innovation and the pursuit of truth? 355 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,760 Do we prioritize the safety and well-being of our citizens? 356 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,880 The answers to those questions will determine 357 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,400 not only the fate of NOAA, 358 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,400 but the future of our nation as a whole. 359 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,440 Welcome back to Meteorology Matters. 360 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,320 We've been talking about some serious challenges 361 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,520 for the National Oceanic Atmosphere Administration 362 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,760 and the potential consequences of a weakened agency, 363 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,240 especially as we're seeing these volatile weather patterns. 364 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Yeah, we've seen those budget cuts, 365 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,160 the lease cancellations, staff reductions, 366 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,640 even getting rid of those advisory committees. 367 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,920 It's eroding NOAA's ability to keep Americans safe 368 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,120 and informed. 369 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,240 It's a concerning trend, 370 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,360 and it really makes you wonder, you know, 371 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,000 what's next for NOAA? 372 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 We've discussed those impacts on scientific advancement, 373 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,040 our economy, even our ability to prepare for 374 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,840 and respond to disasters. 375 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,880 But what does all this mean for the average person, 376 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,960 you know, for the listener tuning in right now? 377 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,400 That's the question, isn't it? 378 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,520 I think the first thing is we can't just sit back. 379 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,520 You know, we've all taken weather forecasting 380 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,960 and those warnings for granted, 381 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,280 we just assume those services would always be there. 382 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,400 But what's happening with NOAA is a wake-up call. 383 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,920 You know, it reminds us that these systems, 384 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,720 they can fail and they rely on, you know, 385 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,200 proper funding experts and public support to really work. 386 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,040 So we need to be more engaged, more aware, 387 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,480 more proactive and advocating for the things 388 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,200 that really matter to us. 389 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,160 We talked earlier about contacting our elected officials, 390 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,640 supporting science-based organizations and stay informed. 391 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,840 But what are some other ways listeners can, 392 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,440 you know, make their voices heard 393 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,880 and contribute to a more resilient future? 394 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Well, one thing we haven't really talked about 395 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,080 is community engagement, you know, 396 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,560 building resilient communities. 397 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,320 It's more than just a strong, 398 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,240 national, oceanic atmosphere administration. 399 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,760 It's about having informed citizens, you know, 400 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,280 people who understand the risks, know how to prepare 401 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,640 and can support each other when disaster strikes. 402 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,360 So what does that look like in practice? 403 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,680 Well, it could be a lot of things, you know, 404 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,560 getting involved with local emergency preparedness initiatives, 405 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,240 you know, attending those community meetings 406 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,600 about weather risks and planning 407 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,560 or even just talking with your neighbors 408 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,320 about how to help each other out during an emergency. 409 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,560 It's about being prepared, you know, 410 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,120 where everyone understands their role 411 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,520 in keeping themselves and their communities safe. 412 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,560 And that's empowering. 413 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,400 It is. 414 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,920 You know, it's easy to feel helpless 415 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,480 when we see these big challenges like climate change 416 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,360 or government funding cuts. 417 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,360 It's overwhelming. 418 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,680 But we can make a difference. 419 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,560 You know, locally, build those strong communities, 420 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 be prepared for whatever comes our way. 421 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,440 Yeah, absolutely. 422 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,920 There's a lot we can do as individuals and communities 423 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,720 to build that resilience, 424 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,840 even while we advocate for change at the national level. 425 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,000 This brings us to something else 426 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 we've talked about throughout this episode, 427 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,480 trusting science. 428 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,080 You know, we live in a time when experts are questioned 429 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,320 or even dismissed. 430 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,160 Right. 431 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,040 And that can have serious consequences, you know, 432 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,400 especially when it comes to things like climate change 433 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,760 and weather forecasting. 434 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,040 For sure, science isn't about opinions or beliefs. 435 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,160 It's about evidence. 436 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,480 It's about observation. 437 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,280 It's about testing and refining 438 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,960 our understanding of the world. 439 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,560 You know, when we undermine science, 440 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,720 we undermine our ability to make good decisions, 441 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,000 solve problems, build a better future. 442 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,600 So what can we do to push back against all that? 443 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,440 Yeah. 444 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,520 We have to promote a greater understanding 445 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,360 of science's role in our lives. 446 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Well, I think it starts with education. 447 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,200 You know, we need to give people the tools 448 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,880 to understand science, to evaluate information, 449 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,560 and to figure out what's true. 450 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Right. 451 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,200 And we need to make science more accessible, 452 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,240 more engaging. 453 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,480 You know, it shouldn't be stuck in labs and journals. 454 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,560 It should be part of our conversation, 455 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,960 something that people feel connected to something exciting. 456 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,000 And that brings us back to those science communicators 457 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,160 like Rob Jones. 458 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,000 Oh, he's great. 459 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,760 So he's such a good job, you know, 460 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,640 breaking down those complex scientific concepts, 461 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,840 making them understandable, making them relatable. 462 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,680 Absolutely. 463 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Science communicators are so important. 464 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,880 They bridge that gap between the scientific community 465 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,840 and the public. 466 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,800 You know, they help people understand science 467 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,200 and they inspire the next generation of scientists. 468 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,120 So be sure to follow Rob on Instagram 469 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,800 at Meteorologist, on TikTok, at TV Meteorologist, 470 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,560 and on YouTube, follow Rob Jones Hurricane. 471 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,080 You can find the Meteorology Matters podcast playlist 472 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,920 there too. 473 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,920 It's a great resource. 474 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,840 So as we wrap up this Meteorology Matters deep dive, 475 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,920 I think the key takeaway is this. 476 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,840 We're facing some big challenges, but we're not hopeless. 477 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,680 Right. 478 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,760 We have the power to make a difference. 479 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,120 Stay informed, engage with your communities, 480 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:13,920 advocate for change, support science, 481 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,080 and those scientists working to protect our planet 482 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,920 and our future. 483 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,240 And remember, knowledge is power. 484 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,000 The more we understand about these issues, 485 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,720 the better we can handle them. 486 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,920 Make smart choices and build a resilient future 487 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,000 for ourselves, for our communities, 488 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,640 and for generations to come. 489 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,600 Thank you for joining us on Meteorology Matters. 490 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,560 We hope you found this helpful and empowering. 491 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,520 Until next time, stay curious, 492 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:46,840 stay engaged, and stay safe.