1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Welcome back to Meteorology Matters, everyone. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,680 We're diving into some lingering impacts 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,200 from hurricane season. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,200 Yeah, you know, we often talk about 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,520 the immediate aftermath of a hurricane. 6 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,360 Right. 7 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,360 But the recovery process can actually drag on 8 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,200 for months or even years. 9 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,040 For sure. 10 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,040 And today we're gonna be focusing on the aftermath 11 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,480 of hurricanes, Helene and Milton. 12 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,320 That's right. 13 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Talking about the challenges folks are facing 14 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,080 and how communities are trying to get back on their seat. 15 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:27,400 And we're gonna dig into some of the systemic issues 16 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,600 that can complicate the recovery process 17 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,640 as well as highlight some of those amazing stories 18 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,840 of resilience that we're seeing emerge 19 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,200 from the affected areas. 20 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,640 So why don't we start in North Carolina? 21 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,480 Okay. 22 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:41,840 Hurricane Helene hit Western North Carolina pretty hard 23 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,080 and there are a lot of residents who are still displaced 24 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:44,920 from their homes. 25 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,880 Yeah, one of the biggest challenges they're facing 26 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,920 is the availability of FEMA's 27 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,240 Transitional Sheltering Assistance Program. 28 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,240 That's the TSA. 29 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,240 Yeah, exactly. 30 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Okay, so that program, you know, 31 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,160 it was putting folks up in hotels after the storm. 32 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Right. 33 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Sounds like a real lifeline for people. 34 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,160 It was, but now months later, 35 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,320 the number of households using that program 36 00:01:05,320 --> 00:01:06,640 has really dropped off. 37 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,480 Really? 38 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Yeah, in early January, over 5,700 households 39 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,680 were still relying on the TSA for hotel stays. 40 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,320 But by February 4th, that number had plummeted 41 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:18,320 to just 762. 42 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:20,280 Wow, so that's a pretty big drop. 43 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,120 It is. 44 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,240 So does that mean everyone found permanent housing? 45 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Well, it's not quite that straightforward, unfortunately. 46 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,280 Okay. 47 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,720 Some people were able to return to their homes 48 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,040 after repairs were done, 49 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,560 but others are facing a much tougher situation. 50 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,920 Yeah, so let's actually hear from one of those people. 51 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,760 Okay. 52 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,040 Kevin Morland is a 63-year-old man 53 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,440 from Clyde, North Carolina. 54 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Okay. 55 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,360 His rented home was really badly damaged by Helene, 56 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,360 and he was relying on that TSA program. 57 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,440 So he was able to extend his hotel stay through March. 58 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,280 Okay. 59 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,640 But he has a criminal record, 60 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,640 and he's found it almost impossible to find a landlord 61 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,880 who will rent to him. 62 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,600 Gosh, you know, it's tough. 63 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Something from your past. 64 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Yeah. 65 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,400 Could make it so hard to rebuild your life. 66 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Absolutely, and Morland's case raises some questions 67 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,040 about the fairness of housing policies 68 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,560 and just the need for more support 69 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,480 for people who are trying to turn things around. 70 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,680 It does, for sure. 71 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,000 So was Mr. Morland able to find a place? 72 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Well, he actually had a camper donated to him. 73 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Wow. 74 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,480 And he's planning to relocate to a more affordable area. 75 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,320 Okay. 76 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,240 His situation though really highlights 77 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,720 the struggles people face finding stable housing. 78 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Yeah, absolutely. 79 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,320 And we're not just talking about one person here. 80 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Right. 81 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,400 We also heard about Randy Billiot. 82 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,240 Okay. 83 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,680 He's a disabled trucker who was evicted 84 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,400 from his apartment after the storm. 85 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,680 He was also relying on the TSA program. 86 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Okay. 87 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,720 Lost his hotel voucher in January though. 88 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,080 And what happened to him? 89 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Well, he was struggling with his health, you know, 90 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,560 just facing so much uncertainty about the future. 91 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,400 Yeah. 92 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,160 He couldn't get clear answers from FEMA, 93 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,680 and he actually had to rely 94 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,480 on the generosity of strangers. 95 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,320 Really? 96 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,640 Yeah, his neighbors at the hotel 97 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:57,960 actually rallied around him and helped him pay 98 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,360 for his room when his voucher ran out. 99 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Oh, wow. 100 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,440 That's, it's heartwarming to see that, 101 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,320 but it also makes you wonder, 102 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,920 yeah, why does it have to come to that? 103 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:08,840 Yeah, it exposes the gaps in the system. 104 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,560 Yeah, it really does. 105 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,240 So for folks who are still in need, 106 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 what's the current status of the TSA program? 107 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,360 Well, Governor Stein actually requested an extension. 108 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,200 Okay. 109 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,720 And FEMA agreed. 110 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,480 So the program is gonna run until May 26th. 111 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,440 That's good news. 112 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,480 It is, but there are really strict eligibility criteria. 113 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,320 I see. 114 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,200 And a lot of people have been deemed ineligible 115 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,480 for various reasons. 116 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Okay, well, for those listening who might still be struggling 117 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,040 with housing in Western North Carolina, 118 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,840 are there resources available to them? 119 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,560 There are, and throughout February, 120 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,760 there's going to be these resources to recovery events 121 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,360 happening in different counties. 122 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,200 Oh, good. 123 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,720 You can connect with county, state, 124 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,160 and federal representatives. 125 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Including FEMA. 126 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Including FEMA, yes. 127 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,200 And it's a chance to find out about programs 128 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,000 you may qualify for and get help 129 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,560 with that application process. 130 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,400 That's great. 131 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,240 And there's also community engagement markets, right? 132 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Right. 133 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,760 They provide free food and medical services 134 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,800 and information on recovery assistance. 135 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,760 And what about if people need things like 136 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,040 showers, laundry, or bottled water? 137 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,760 You can look for community care station locations. 138 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,600 Okay. 139 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,920 They're open daily in some of those hardest-hit communities. 140 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,240 Well, it's really important to remember 141 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,200 that recovery takes time. 142 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,040 It does. 143 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,120 And support services are still vital. 144 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Absolutely. 145 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,640 If you need help, please reach out. 146 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Now, let's talk about the financial burden 147 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,400 that hurricanes place on everyone. 148 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Yeah. 149 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,400 The cost of recovery can be really substantial. 150 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,240 Huge. 151 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,800 And it often leads to some tension 152 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,040 between utility companies and their customers. 153 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,880 Yeah. 154 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,800 Let's look at Florida as an example. 155 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Okay. 156 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Regulators, they're just approved 157 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,960 some significant monthly surcharges 158 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 for customers of Duke Energy and Tampa Electric. 159 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Right. 160 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,480 The goal is to help these companies recoup 161 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,280 the costs from hurricane recovery. 162 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:54,120 Okay. 163 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,480 But it also means that consumers 164 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,240 are gonna be paying more. 165 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,680 So how much more are we talking about? 166 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,280 Well, Tampa Electric customers are gonna see 167 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:03,080 an increase of about $20 a month on their bills. 168 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,560 And Duke Energy customers will be facing 169 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,840 a surcharge of around $32 a month. 170 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:08,680 Wow. 171 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,480 So that's a pretty hefty increase. 172 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,320 It is. 173 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,000 And you know, on top of everything else 174 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,320 people are dealing with, 175 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,320 it's led to a real debate about 176 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,560 who should ultimately bear the cost of storm recovery. 177 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,120 And what are regulators saying about this? 178 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,600 Well, they've expressed concern about the impact 179 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,480 of these surcharges, you know, 180 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,960 particularly considering that base rate hikes 181 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,560 were already approved last year. 182 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Right. 183 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,800 There's a worry that these rising costs 184 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,720 are becoming too much for people to handle. 185 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Yeah, I can see that. 186 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,440 So what can be done? 187 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,280 Are there any ideas being floated 188 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:41,360 to ease this financial pressure? 189 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,760 Well, there are some folks who argue 190 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,280 that utility shareholders should also share 191 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:48,560 in covering the costs of storm recovery. 192 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Yeah, I mean, if the companies are profiting 193 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,400 they should share in the responsibility too, right? 194 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,240 That's the argument. 195 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Makes sense. 196 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,680 Another idea is to actually set limits 197 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,680 on how much utilities can spend on storm recovery. 198 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,520 I see. 199 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,600 So that could help lessen the impact on customers' bills. 200 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,080 It's definitely a tough issue with no easy solutions. 201 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Yeah, utilities need resources to restore power. 202 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,160 But we also have to consider the financial well-being 203 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,400 of the people they serve. 204 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,720 It's all about finding that balance. 205 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Now let's shift gears and talk about 206 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,520 another lasting effect of hurricanes, 207 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,600 Helene and Milton unemployment. 208 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,800 Right, these storms didn't just damage property, 209 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,440 they disrupted people's lives and their livelihoods. 210 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,480 Absolutely. 211 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 So we're gonna hear from some folks in Florida 212 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,080 who are still struggling to get back 213 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,520 on their feet financially, months after the storms. 214 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,760 We'll explore the challenges they're facing 215 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,480 and look at the systems that can make it hard 216 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,600 to get the support they need. 217 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,400 And we'll also highlight some initiatives 218 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,480 that are aimed at addressing those challenges. 219 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,280 Before we dive into those stories though, 220 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:49,400 let's remind our listeners 221 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,320 how to connect with us. 222 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,160 Yes. 223 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,640 For weather updates and expertise, 224 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,120 you can follow our meteorologist Rob Jones. 225 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,000 You can find him on Instagram at meteorologist, 226 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,400 on TikTok at TV meteorologist, 227 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080 and on YouTube search for Rob Jones' hurricane. 228 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,320 And on his YouTube channel, 229 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,520 you can also find the Meteorology Matters podcast playlist 230 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,920 where you can catch up on all our past episodes. 231 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Now, let's talk about Giselle Wiggins. 232 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,880 She's a photographer and videographer 233 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,000 from Clearwater Beach, Florida. 234 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Okay. 235 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,640 She lost her income after Hurricane Milton 236 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,520 because all those beautiful beach scenes 237 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,400 she normally captures were gone. 238 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Right. 239 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,560 She applied for disaster unemployment assistance. 240 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,640 And even though she was found eligible, 241 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,360 she hasn't received any benefits yet. 242 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,320 Oh wow. 243 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,320 And months after the storm, 244 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,920 she was evicted from her apartment. 245 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Right. 246 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,720 And now she's couch surfing at a friend's place 247 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,320 with all of her belongings and storage. 248 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,520 Yeah, it shows how these storms 249 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,200 can have these really long lasting consequences. 250 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Absolutely. 251 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,120 So it's not just about the immediate impact. 252 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:47,460 Yeah. 253 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:49,000 It's about the whipsome months that follow. 254 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Right. 255 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,000 And, you know, Giselle's story isn't unique. 256 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,360 No, it isn't. 257 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,200 We also spoke with Elizabeth Saz. 258 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,520 She's a single mother who has been struggling 259 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320 with Florida's unemployment system since mid-November. 260 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,560 It sounds like she's been dealing with a lot of red tape. 261 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,840 She has, she describes the Florida Department of Commerce's 262 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,680 unemployment system as just incredibly difficult to navigate. 263 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Hmm. 264 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,800 The phone lines are always busy. 265 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,640 There's no option to leave a message. 266 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,080 And her emails seem to go unanswered. 267 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Yeah, it's got to be frustrating when you need help. 268 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,200 And you can't even reach the people who are supposed to provide it. 269 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:19,700 Exactly. 270 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:21,240 And it's not just an inconvenience. 271 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,000 It's causing real hardship. 272 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Right. 273 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,520 Bills are piling up while people wait for assistance. 274 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Exactly. 275 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,400 And it brings up some broader criticisms 276 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,720 about Florida's unemployment system. 277 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Like what? 278 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Well, the maximum weekly benefit is only $275, 279 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,600 which is pretty low compared to other states. 280 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Yeah. 281 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,200 That's hardly enough to cover basic expenses 282 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,080 for a single person, let alone a family. 283 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,040 And the benefits only last for 12 weeks. 284 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,560 Oh, wow. 285 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,520 Which isn't really enough time to find new work, 286 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,400 especially in areas where the economy is still 287 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,040 recovering from the storm. 288 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,520 So where does this leave people like Giselle and Elizabeth, 289 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,760 who are still waiting for benefits, 290 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,000 what can be done to make this system more effective 291 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,240 and more compassionate? 292 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Those are really important questions. 293 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,680 And we're going to dive into some potential solutions 294 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,400 in the next part of our discussion. 295 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,600 So yeah, it seems like Florida's unemployment system really 296 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,120 needs an overhaul. 297 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:10,520 It does. 298 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,200 People are talking about some solutions, 299 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,240 like increasing the maximum weekly benefit. 300 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:15,720 OK. 301 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,360 And extending the duration of those benefits, 302 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,080 especially for people who have been impacted 303 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,480 by natural disasters. 304 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Yeah. 305 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,080 That makes sense, giving people more financial breathing room 306 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,880 and more time to find work. 307 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,480 Exactly. 308 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,520 And it's not just about the numbers. 309 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,560 It's about making the system itself easier to use. 310 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:38,440 People need clear information, easy to use online platforms, 311 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,440 responsive customer service. 312 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,600 The current system is just way too complicated, 313 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,160 especially for people who are already under so much stress. 314 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,040 Yeah, it sounds like a complete overhaul is really 315 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,680 what's needed to make sure the system actually works 316 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:52,800 for the people who need it. 317 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Exactly. 318 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,360 So we've talked about the human toll and the financial strain, 319 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,920 but let's switch gears a bit and talk 320 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,920 about the actual physical cleanup. 321 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,400 All right, all that debris removal, the infrastructure, 322 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,520 repairs the environmental concerns. 323 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Exactly. 324 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,400 It's a massive undertaking. 325 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Huge. 326 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,800 And it can take a long time to complete. 327 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:10,240 Yeah. 328 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,760 It's easy to forget about that part once the immediate danger 329 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:13,400 has passed. 330 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:13,900 It is. 331 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:16,760 So let's take Buncombe County in North Carolina as an example. 332 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,320 OK. 333 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,760 One of the hardest hit areas by Helene, just the sheer amount 334 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,600 of debris is incredible. 335 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,680 Yeah, downed trees, building materials, vehicles. 336 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,080 It's a logistical nightmare. 337 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,280 It is. 338 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,560 Where do you even begin to tackle something like that? 339 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:34,360 It takes a coordinated effort between local, state, 340 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,800 and federal agencies. 341 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,400 OK. 342 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,120 The US Army Corps of Engineers has been working in Western North 343 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,720 Carolina since October. 344 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:42,720 And how are they doing? 345 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,160 They've made some real progress. 346 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,680 As of February 5, their contractors 347 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,400 had collected over 900,000 cubic yards of debris. 348 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Wow, that's a lot. 349 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,640 It is from public rights of way, but there's still 350 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,680 a lot more work to do. 351 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:56,840 What about debris on private property? 352 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:57,800 That's a bit trickier. 353 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,480 I bet. 354 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,360 Buncombe County has a program for that. 355 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:00,760 OK. 356 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,880 But property owners have to apply and get an inspection. 357 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,640 Yeah, I imagine that can be tough for people who are already 358 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,800 dealing with so much. 359 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:14,280 It can be, and as of January 29, over 445 residential property 360 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,320 owners and 40 commercial property owners had applied. 361 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:17,560 OK. 362 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:18,600 So it's a process. 363 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,960 It is, for sure. 364 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,040 So beyond the sheer volume of debris, 365 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,680 are there any other challenges they're 366 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,400 facing in Buncombe County? 367 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,760 Yeah, one big concern is all the debris that 368 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,400 ended up in the waterways. 369 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:29,720 Right. 370 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Haleen brought a lot of flooding to Western North Carolina. 371 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Exactly. 372 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,240 And all that floodwater carried debris 373 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,800 into the rivers and streams. 374 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,760 And that's obviously a big problem for the environment. 375 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,240 It is. 376 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,680 Waterway debris removal is a top priority, 377 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:44,520 but it's a delicate operation. 378 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Yeah, you don't want to cause further damage. 379 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:46,520 Right. 380 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,400 So they're using a lot of different techniques 381 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,720 to protect the environment during cleanup. 382 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,040 OK. 383 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Like they're using silt fences to prevent pollutants 384 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,400 from washing into the water. 385 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:55,800 OK. 386 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,000 And they're also taking steps to minimize disturbance 387 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,720 to wildlife habitats. 388 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,440 Getting. 389 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,600 It sounds like they're taking a really thoughtful approach. 390 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,120 They are. 391 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,400 One of the things they found is a ton of vehicles 392 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,240 in the rivers and streams. 393 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Yeah. 394 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,320 The floodwaters were so powerful, 395 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,400 they just swept them away, cars, trucks, even campers. 396 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,680 Wow, that's incredible. 397 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:16,160 It is. 398 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,960 Contractors are working to get them out of there. 399 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:18,240 OK. 400 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,760 As of February 5th, there were still about 80 vehicles left. 401 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,680 Wow. 402 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:23,960 So it's a long process. 403 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,520 It is. 404 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,800 But it's important for restoring the ecosystem. 405 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,320 It is. 406 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,760 And it's not just about restoring the environment right. 407 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,200 Right. 408 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,160 It's about rebuilding communities. 409 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:32,720 Exactly. 410 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,320 And that's where the financial side of things comes in again. 411 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,720 Yeah, we talked about the strain on individuals, 412 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,800 but whole communities are bearing the cost of re-building. 413 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,640 They are. 414 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,520 And the North Carolina Treasurer's Office 415 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,040 has actually set up a $100 million loan program to help out. 416 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,400 That's fantastic. 417 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,720 What can communities use that money for? 418 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,080 All kinds of things, repairing roads and bridges, 419 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,840 rebuilding schools and hospitals. 420 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Wow, that's going to be a big help. 421 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,000 It is. 422 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Rebuilding takes time and resources. 423 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,360 It does. 424 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,560 And collaboration. 425 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:02,640 Absolutely. 426 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,080 So before we move on, let's remind our listeners 427 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,720 how to stay informed about weather events and support 428 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:08,920 recovery efforts. 429 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,040 Yeah, Rob Jones is a great resource. 430 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,880 You can find him on Instagram at meteorologist 431 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,440 on TikTok at TV meteorologist. 432 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,880 And on YouTube, search Rob Jones' Hurricane. 433 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,600 And on his YouTube channel, you can also 434 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,840 find the Meteorology Matters podcast playlist. 435 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,000 Perfect. 436 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,680 Now, for our last topic today, let's 437 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:29,640 talk about something pretty unexpected that 438 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,240 happened as a result of Hurricane Haleen. 439 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,440 OK, this really highlights how interconnected 440 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,080 our ecosystems are. 441 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,360 I'm intrigued. 442 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Tell me more. 443 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,560 So Haleen brought all that rain and flooding 444 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:42,080 to Western North Carolina, right? 445 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,560 Right. 446 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,320 Well, all that moisture created the perfect conditions 447 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,200 for a certain type of fungus to grow. 448 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Fungus? 449 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,840 OK, this is definitely not what I was expecting. 450 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,520 What kind of fungus are we talking about? 451 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,560 It's a fungus that affects trees, specifically 452 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:54,840 black walnut trees. 453 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,440 OK. 454 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,400 And it's associated with a disease called 455 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Thousand Cankers Disease. 456 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,360 And how does that disease work? 457 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,040 Well, it's spread by a tiny beetle that carries the fungus. 458 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:03,560 OK. 459 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:05,640 The beetle bores into the bark of the tree 460 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,600 and spreads the fungus as it tunnels. 461 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,320 I see. 462 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,600 And the heavy rain and flooding from Haleen 463 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,040 created a really good environment for these beetles. 464 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,160 So the hurricane actually helped spread this disease. 465 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,080 It's a fascinating example of how interconnected things 466 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,840 are in nature. 467 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,320 It is a little unsettling, though. 468 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Yeah. 469 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,720 How serious is this disease? 470 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,880 Can it kill trees? 471 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,800 Yeah, it can be fatal. 472 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:26,360 Oh, wow. 473 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,200 The fungus disrupts the flow of nutrients and water 474 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,080 in the tree, and eventually, the whole tree can die. 475 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,640 And is there a cure? 476 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,720 Unfortunately, no. 477 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,240 So prevention and early detection are really important. 478 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,320 That's a good reminder that we need to pay attention 479 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,280 to these subtle changes in the environment 480 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,480 after big weather events. 481 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,080 Absolutely. 482 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Now, let's talk about the impact these hurricanes have 483 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,720 had on the tourism industry. 484 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Yeah. 485 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Tourism is a huge part of the economy in many coastal areas. 486 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,160 And it's very vulnerable to disruptions. 487 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:55,640 It is. 488 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,680 So let's focus on Florida, which relies heavily on tourism. 489 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,160 OK. 490 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,240 What are some of the biggest challenges they're facing? 491 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,480 Good question. 492 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,400 Well, one of the most immediate impacts 493 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,640 is the physical damage to businesses that cater to Tuas. 494 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Right. 495 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,880 Hotels, restaurants, shops, all that. 496 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:11,640 Exactly. 497 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,440 A lot of those places had to close, at least temporarily, 498 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,840 some permanently, which has led to job losses. 499 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,320 It's a real blow to those businesses and the communities 500 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,800 that depend on them. 501 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,280 What about the tourists themselves? 502 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,000 Have these storms scared people away from visiting Florida? 503 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Yeah. 504 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,880 A lot of people cancel trips because of safety concerns, 505 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,400 travel disruptions, you know? 506 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Makes sense. 507 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,160 And even months later, some areas 508 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,800 are still having trouble attracting visitors back. 509 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,160 So it's not just about rebuilding. 510 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,840 It's about rebuilding confidence. 511 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Right. 512 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Reassuring people that Florida is still a great place to visit. 513 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Yeah. 514 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,000 How are they doing that? 515 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,440 They're focusing on marketing and communication, 516 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,000 letting people know that Florida is open for business 517 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,760 and highlighting the areas that are ready for visitors. 518 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,360 OK. 519 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,160 They're also telling stories about the resilience 520 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,720 of the state and the people. 521 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,200 Right. 522 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,520 Showing that Florida is strong. 523 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,080 Exactly. 524 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,800 And they're emphasizing the importance 525 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,680 of investing in infrastructure. 526 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,560 Like roads and airports and things like that. 527 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Exactly. 528 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,920 It not only helps the tourism industry, 529 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,440 but it also improves things for residents. 530 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,560 So everybody wins. 531 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,640 Right. 532 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,480 And there's also a push to diversify Florida's tourism 533 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,280 offerings. 534 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,920 So going beyond just the beach? 535 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Exactly. 536 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Showcasing cultural attractions, historical sites, 537 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,720 the food scene, all the different things Florida 538 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,680 has to offer. 539 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,200 I like it. 540 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,320 It sounds like Florida is taking a really 541 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,400 a comprehensive approach to recovery. 542 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,480 They are addressing the immediate needs 543 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,040 and looking towards the future. 544 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,280 It is inspiring to see how people 545 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,360 are working to rebuild their businesses and communities. 546 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,600 It reminds us that even in the face of adversity, 547 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,320 there's always hope. 548 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,000 Wow. 549 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,000 What a journey. 550 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:44,800 It has been. 551 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,840 Really insightful look at the long road 552 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,240 to recovery after hurricanes, Haleen, and Milton. 553 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Yeah. 554 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,680 We've seen the challenges, the setbacks, 555 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,040 but also the incredible resilience of these communities. 556 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:56,720 For sure. 557 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,400 From housing insecurity to unemployment 558 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,200 to the financial burden on utility customers 559 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,840 and the effects on ecosystems and the tourism industry. 560 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,120 We've covered a lot of ground. 561 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:06,720 We have. 562 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,520 And it's clear that these issues 563 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,840 need some serious attention. 564 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,480 They do. 565 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,960 You know, we need to find solutions and work together 566 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,760 to build a more resilient future. 567 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,360 Absolutely. 568 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:16,920 And I think it's important to remember something 569 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,720 that you mentioned earlier. 570 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,120 Yeah. 571 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,120 Behind all these challenges, behind the numbers 572 00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:22,320 and the statistics are real people. 573 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:22,640 Right. 574 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Whose lives have been turned upside down by these storms? 575 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,720 You know, the stories we hear today from Kevin Morland, 576 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,720 Randy Billiot, Giselle Wiggins, and Elizabeth says, 577 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,480 they're just a glimpse into the struggles 578 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,640 that so many people are facing. 579 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,200 Absolutely. 580 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,080 And those stories really highlight 581 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,400 the need for empathy for compassion. 582 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:40,880 Yeah. 583 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,240 And for systems that can truly support people in times of crisis. 584 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:44,800 For sure. 585 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,360 Yeah. 586 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:46,600 And as we wrap up this episode, 587 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,400 I want to talk about what we as individuals 588 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,040 can do to make a difference. 589 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:50,600 OK. 590 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,840 We've talked about preparedness and understanding 591 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,600 risk and community support. 592 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,560 But what about individual action? 593 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Well, we can start by staying informed about weather events 594 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,440 and taking precautions to protect ourselves and our families. 595 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,200 We can support relief efforts through donations 596 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,920 or volunteering or just by spreading awareness. 597 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,640 And I think it's also important to talk about climate change. 598 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,360 Absolutely. 599 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:16,760 And how it's impacting these extreme weather events. 600 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,040 It's a complex issue, but we can't ignore it. 601 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,760 We can't. 602 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,720 And building a more resilient future 603 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,120 requires all of us to work together. 604 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:25,600 It does. 605 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,920 From individuals to communities to governments. 606 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 We have the knowledge, the resources, and the technology. 607 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,000 We do. 608 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,560 What we need is the will to act. 609 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,960 And we can start today. 610 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,480 We can. 611 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,240 By raising awareness, supporting those in need, 612 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,520 advocating for change. 613 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,240 We can all contribute to a world that's 614 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,840 better prepared for the challenges ahead. 615 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,480 Absolutely. 616 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,960 Well, we want to thank you, our listeners, 617 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,440 for joining us on this deep dive into the aftermath of hurricanes 618 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,440 Helene and Milton. 619 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,000 We hope you found it informative and thought-provoking. 620 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,960 And remember, we're all in this together. 621 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,720 By working together, we can create 622 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,640 a more resilient and sustainable future for everyone. 623 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,320 If you want to learn more about any of the topics we've discussed 624 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,160 or connect with us, you can visit our website 625 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,640 or find us on social media. 626 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,040 And for all the latest weather updates and insights, 627 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,320 be sure to follow meteorologist Rob Jones. 628 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,760 You can find him on Instagram at meteorologist on TikTok 629 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,360 at TV meteorologist. 630 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,960 And on YouTube, search for Rob Jones' Hurricane. 631 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,240 You can also find the Meteorology Matters podcast 632 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,200 playlist on his YouTube channel. 633 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,240 Thanks for listening. 634 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:48,760 And until next time, stay safe and stay informed.