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Hey everybody and welcome back to Meteorology Matters.

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Glad to be back.

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You know, we're tackling homeowners insurance today.

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Yeah, it's been all over the news lately

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and for good reason.

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It's a really big deal for a lot of people.

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Absolutely, and you know, from coast to coast,

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it feels like premiums are skyrocketing.

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Yeah.

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And insurers are pulling out of markets

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and a lot of folks are wondering like,

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what is going on?

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It's a really complicated situation.

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Yeah.

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And people are stressful too.

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Absolutely.

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And whether you're buying your first home

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Or you've been in yours for years

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or maybe you're just curious about, you know,

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the forces that are shaping our world.

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I mean, this is definitely something

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that you should understand.

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It really is.

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We've all seen the images of those devastating wildfires

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in Los Angeles.

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And the aftermath of Hurricane Milton in Florida.

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Yeah, and you know, those are just two examples.

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Right.

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But they really highlight this insurance issue

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and bring it to the forefront.

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Absolutely.

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And you know, those events aren't just local tragedies.

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They're highlighting a trend

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that's been building for a while.

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That's right.

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Climate change is a major factor.

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Driving this whole crisis.

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We're seeing more frequent and intense weather events.

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That's right.

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Which of course means more damage.

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More claims for insurance companies to pay out.

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Exactly, more payouts.

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Yeah.

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And it's not just the number of events, is it?

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No.

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I mean, the cost of rebuilding after a disaster

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has gone way up.

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That's right.

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I mean, lumber these days, oh my gosh.

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It's really impacting everything.

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It is.

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So inflation is playing a huge role here too.

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Absolutely.

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Building materials are more expensive.

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Labor costs are more expensive.

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All of that translates into higher rebuilding costs.

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Yes.

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Even seemingly minor damage

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can end up being a really hefty insurance payout.

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Oh, for sure.

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So we've got climate change, fueling more disasters.

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We've got inflation making it more expensive to recover.

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What else is contributing to this perfect storm

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in the insurance market?

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Well, insurance companies are having a really hard time

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predicting risk.

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No climate change is changing the historical weather patterns.

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So these models that they use to assess the likelihood

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of a wildfire or a hurricane, they're not as reliable

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as they used to be.

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So they're having to adjust their calculations.

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And account for more uncertainty.

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And that probably means higher premiums for all of us, right?

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It translates into higher premiums for homeowners

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and that uncertainty is hitting them hard financially.

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In 2023, homeowner insurance payouts actually exceeded

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the premiums they collected.

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By $15.2 billion.

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That's a lot.

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It's the worst result this century.

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And it really shows the financial pressure

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that they're under.

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So that's a massive deficit for them.

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It is.

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I mean, they can't just keep absorbing those losses,

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can they?

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No, they can't.

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And on top of that, the cost of reinsurance.

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Reinsurance.

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So, actually, insurance for insurance companies,

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that has gone up over 40% in the past three years.

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So they're paying more to protect themselves.

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And those costs get passed down to homeowners.

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Like a domino effect.

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It is.

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All these factors converging

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and homeowners are the ones feeling the squeeze.

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We're hearing stories about people facing

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huge premium increases.

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Getting dropped by their insurers,

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having trouble even finding new coverage.

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That's right.

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And the numbers back it up.

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And there are some cool notices where insurance companies

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decide not to renew existing policies.

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Surged almost 30% from 2018 to 2022.

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Wow.

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That's a lot.

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It's a trend that's impacting homeowners

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all over the country.

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And speaking of trends, it seems like California

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has become a focal point of this crisis.

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Especially with those recent wildfires.

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Mm-hmm.

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What's the situation there?

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Well, California is a prime example

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of how climate change and the insurance market are clashing.

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It's been hit really hard by wildfires.

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And insurers are taking notice.

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You know, big names like State Farm and Allstate

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have stopped selling new homeowner policies in the state.

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And they're dropping thousands of existing policies

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in these high risk fire zones.

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I can't imagine the feeling of being told.

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You know, your insurance won't be renewed.

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Especially in a place where wildfire risk is so real.

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It's a devastating situation for a lot of homeowners.

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It is.

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And it sparked public outrage.

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Especially after filmmaker Tyler Perry called out

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insurance companies on social media.

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I saw that.

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For abandoning residents in fire prone areas.

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And his post went viral and really put

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a spotlight on this whole issue.

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It's understandable that people are angry.

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They've been paying premiums for years.

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And now they're being told you're on your own.

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And a lot of these homeowners are being forced into the state

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backed fair plan.

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The insurer of last resort.

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But that's not always a great option, is it?

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It's not ideal.

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It's often more expensive.

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Offers less coverage than traditional insurance.

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It's meant to be a safety net.

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But it's not a long term solution.

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So California homeowners are in a real bind.

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They are.

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They're either facing sky high premiums

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from private insurers.

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Or very limited coverage from the state backed plan.

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That's a pretty accurate assessment.

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But it's not just wildfires that are causing problems.

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Let's shift gears and talk about Florida.

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A state that knows a thing or two about natural disasters,

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particularly hurricanes.

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Florida has been grappling with its own set

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of insurance challenges.

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Especially after Hurricane Milton.

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What's the latest there?

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Hurricane Milton really threw a wrench

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into the Florida insurance market.

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We saw nationwide a major insurer cancelling policies,

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particularly in Glades County.

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That county actually had the highest non-renewal rate

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in the country in 2023.

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Wait higher than California.

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I wouldn't have guessed that.

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It's surprising.

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It is.

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This just goes to show that this crisis is unfolding

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differently across the country.

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But the core issues are similar.

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Florida's non-renewal rate was almost 3% in 2023.

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Even higher than California's 1.8%.

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So is the situation in Florida similar to California?

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Mm-hmm.

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With insurers pulling out and homeowners

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struggling to find coverage?

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There are some similarities.

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But Florida's situation is unique in some ways.

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For example, the regulations in Florida

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are different from those in California.

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And that's affecting homeowners' options.

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Can you elaborate on those regulatory differences?

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What makes Florida stand out?

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Well, one key difference is Florida's three-year rule.

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This rule prevented insurers from dropping policies

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that have been in effect for at least three years.

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However, there's been a push to change this rule.

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Some argue that it discourages new insurance companies

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from entering the Florida market.

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So they're considering loosening regulations.

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To attract more insurers.

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Mm-hmm.

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But wouldn't that potentially leave homeowners

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more vulnerable to being dropped?

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That's a valid concern, and it's a hot topic in Florida

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right now.

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The State Department of Insurance

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is even holding public hearings to get feedback.

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On these proposed changes.

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These changes could allow companies

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to drop up to 5% of their policy holders.

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And even more in some cases.

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So it sounds like a delicate balancing act.

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It is.

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Trying to stabilize the insurance market.

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But also making sure that homeowners are protected.

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Exactly.

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It's a complex issue with no easy answers.

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We focused a lot on California and Florida.

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Mm-hmm.

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But this isn't just a coastal problem.

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No, it's not.

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This insurance crisis is a nationwide issue.

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You're right, it is.

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While coastal areas are feeling the most pressure.

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Inland states are also experiencing these rising costs

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and non-renewals.

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That's right.

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So what are some examples of where we're seeing these trends?

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We'll take Oklahoma, for instance.

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You know, it's known for tornadoes.

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Homeowners there are facing significant challenges.

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Especially those who've had wind and hail damage.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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And parts of the South are seeing problems

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related to severe storms.

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So no matter where you live, you're probably

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feeling the ripples of this insurance crisis.

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Unfortunately, that's the reality for many.

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And what's frustrating is we don't even

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have a complete picture of the national scope

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of this problem.

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Really?

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Why is that?

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Are we missing data?

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Yeah, there are data gaps.

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A recent article in The New York Times

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pointed out that seven states didn't fully

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participate in the Treasury Department's data collection.

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Wow.

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So we're missing crucial pieces of the puzzle.

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So which states are we talking about?

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Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia,

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Indiana, Montana, and North Dakota.

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Local insurance companies in those states didn't provide data.

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So we don't have a full understanding of the situation

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on the ground there.

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So we're dealing with a crisis that's complex,

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it's widespread, and even a bit mysterious,

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because we're missing some of this information.

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That's right.

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It's a lot.

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It can feel overwhelming.

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It can.

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And that's why we're here.

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That's right.

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To unpack this issue and provide some clarity.

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And speaking of clarity, let's give our listeners

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a way to connect with us for even more insights.

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Absolutely.

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Where can they find you?

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You can follow meteorologist Rob Jones on Instagram

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at at meteorologist, on TikTok at TV meteorologist,

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and on YouTube, follow at Rob Jones' Hurricane.

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Perfect.

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And you can also find meteorology matters

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in the podcast playlist.

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All right.

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We'll be back after a short break

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to discuss what homeowners can do to navigate this challenging

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insurance landscape.

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Sounds good.

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Stay with us.

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Welcome back to meteorology matters.

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So before we went to break, we were painting kind of a stark

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picture.

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We were.

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Of this homeowners insurance crisis.

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Yeah.

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It's a lot to take in.

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It is.

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But you know, knowledge is power.

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That's right.

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So let's shift gears a little bit and talk about what homeowners

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can actually do to protect themselves in this crazy market.

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That's a great point.

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It can feel overwhelming.

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But there are definitely steps that you can take

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to navigate this situation and make sure you've

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got the coverage you need.

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OK, that's reassuring.

355
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So where do we even begin?

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What's the first piece of advice you

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would give to a homeowner who's like, I don't even

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know what to do.

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Yeah, don't just accept the first insurance quote you get.

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OK.

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Shop around, get quotes from multiple insurers.

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Compare the rates.

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Look closely at what's covered, what's not.

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You might be surprised by the variation out there.

365
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Yeah, that's good advice for any major purchase, really.

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It is.

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Do your research explore your options?

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Exactly.

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And another thing to consider is your deductible.

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OK.

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The deductible.

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Yeah, increasing your deductible,

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that's the amount you pay out of pocket.

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Before insurance kicks in.

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Right.

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Can often lower your premium.

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So you're taking on a little bit more risk yourself.

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You are.

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In exchange for those lower monthly payments.

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That's right.

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But it's important to be realistic here.

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OK.

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Make sure that you can comfortably afford

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that higher deductible.

385
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Right.

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If you actually need to file a claim.

387
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Yeah, that's a really good point.

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Don't set yourself up for financial hardship.

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That's exact.

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Just to save a few bucks on your monthly bill,

391
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it's not worth it.

392
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No, it's not.

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And while we're talking about finances,

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this might be a good time to bring up

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the importance of making sure your home is adequately

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insured for its replacement value.

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Replacement value, what does that mean exactly?

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It means having enough insurance coverage

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to actually rebuild your home from scratch if it's destroyed.

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Right.

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And I mean, at current construction costs,

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not what it cost to build years ago,

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you'd be surprised how many people underestimate this.

404
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And they end up severely underinsured if disaster

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strikes.

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So how do you even determine the right amount of coverage?

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Is it just a guessing game or?

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It's not a guessing game talk to your insurance agent.

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OK.

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Or a qualified appraiser.

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OK.

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To get an accurate assessment of your home's replacement value.

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OK.

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They'll consider things like square footage.

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Right.

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Types of building materials, used local construction costs.

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So get a professional assessment.

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Don't just wing it.

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Don't wing.

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Got it.

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Anything else homeowners should be thinking about?

422
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Yes.

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Be aware of the risk factors in your specific area

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that could affect your insurance.

425
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OK.

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Like what?

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Things like proximity to wildfire prone areas,

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flood zones, coastlines.

429
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Right.

430
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You know, insurers are laser focused on these risks.

431
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Yeah.

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And they'll definitely factor them into your premiums

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and coverage options.

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So the more you know about the risks in your area.

435
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Yes.

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The better prepared you'll be to have those conversations.

437
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Exactly.

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With insurers.

439
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Yeah.

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And make informed decisions.

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Uh-huh.

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And you know, while we've been focused on what homeowners can

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do.

444
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Right.

445
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It's worth noting that this crisis is forcing changes

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within the insurance industry itself.

447
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Yeah.

448
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That makes sense.

449
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They're facing immense pressure.

450
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Right.

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They've got to adapt somehow.

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One way they're adapting is by using technology.

453
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OK.

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To get better at assessing risk and setting premiums.

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Think artificial intelligence.

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Right.

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Machine learning.

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Yeah.

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They're using these tools to analyze huge amounts of data

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from weather patterns to property values.

461
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Wow.

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To get a more accurate picture of risk.

463
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So they're trying to get smarter about how they evaluate risk.

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They are.

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And that's probably a good thing in the long run, right?

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Yeah.

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More accurate risk assessments could lead to more stable

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premiums for homeowners.

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That's the hope.

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But of course, with any powerful technology,

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there are always concerns.

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Yeah.

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We need to make sure it's being used fairly and ethically

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that it's not creating new forms of discrimination

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or unfairly disadvantaging certain communities.

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That's a really important point.

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It is.

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We need to be mindful of those potential downsides.

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Yes.

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And make sure that technology is being used responsibly.

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Absolutely.

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Another trend we're seeing is a move toward more personalized

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insurance policies.

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OK.

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So instead of those one-size-fits-all policy,

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you're saying insurers are starting to tailor coverage

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to each homeowner's needs and risk profile.

488
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Exactly.

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So how does that work in practice?

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What does a personalized policy look like?

491
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Well, let's say you live in a wildfire prone area.

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OK.

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A personalized policy might include coverage

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for fire-resistant landscaping.

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OK.

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Or those home hardening measures that you've

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taken to reduce your risk.

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Right.

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Or maybe you've got a sophisticated home security

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system that could get you a discount on your premium.

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So it's about recognizing that not all homes are the same.

502
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Right.

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And that homeowners who take steps to mitigate risk

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should be rewarded for their efforts.

505
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Exactly.

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And in theory, this approach could incentivize more

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homeowners to invest in risk reduction measures, which

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would benefit both them and the insurance companies.

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So win-win.

510
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Potentially.

511
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Yeah.

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But there are still a lot of questions

513
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about how this personalized approach will

514
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be implemented in practice.

515
00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:46,720
Right.

516
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Will it be truly accessible and affordable for all homeowners?

517
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We'll have to wait and see.

518
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,560
So as with the use of technology,

519
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we need to keep a close eye on how these trends develop

520
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,080
and what impact they actually have on homeowners

521
00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:02,880
in the real world.

522
00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:03,360
Yes.

523
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This is an evolving situation that requires careful attention.

524
00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,080
We need to find solutions that are both effective and equitable.

525
00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,400
So we've talked about the factors driving this crisis,

526
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the steps homeowners can take, and some of the changes

527
00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,080
happening within the insurance industry.

528
00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:20,640
Yes.

529
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,040
But I think there's an even bigger question looming here.

530
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One that goes beyond individual homeowners.

531
00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,000
Yeah.

532
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,360
And even the insurance industry as a whole.

533
00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,880
I think I know where you're going with this.

534
00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,240
OK.

535
00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,680
You're talking about the role of government

536
00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760
in addressing this crisis.

537
00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,360
You've got to, if climate change is a major catalyst here.

538
00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:39,680
Right.

539
00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,440
And it's only going to intensify in the coming years,

540
00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,480
shouldn't the government be doing more to help homeowners

541
00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,240
and communities adapt?

542
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,880
It's a question a lot of people are asking.

543
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,400
It is.

544
00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,320
And there are a lot of different perspectives

545
00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,440
on what that government role should look like.

546
00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,760
So let's explore some of those perspectives.

547
00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,280
What are some of the solutions that are being proposed?

548
00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,560
Well, some argue that the government should provide

549
00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080
more financial assistance to homeowners,

550
00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,000
particularly those in high-risk areas

551
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,320
to help them afford insurance or make their homes more resilient

552
00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,280
to climate change.

553
00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,480
So provide direct support to the people who need it most.

554
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,360
Exactly.

555
00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,560
What are some other ideas?

556
00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,240
Yeah.

557
00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,120
Others believe the government should be investing more heavily

558
00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,200
in climate adaptation and mitigation measures.

559
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,760
Things like building seawalls, strengthening infrastructure,

560
00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,320
reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

561
00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,480
So tackling the root causes.

562
00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,400
Tackling the root causes, essentially.

563
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,440
So instead of just reacting to disasters,

564
00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,880
we're trying to prevent them or at least minimize their impact.

565
00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,640
Exactly.

566
00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,080
And then there are proposals for the government

567
00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,720
to create or expand public insurance programs,

568
00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,520
like the EF Fair Plan in California,

569
00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,640
to offer coverage for homeowners who can't find it

570
00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,840
in the private market.

571
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,080
So the government steps in as the insurer of last resort.

572
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,160
That's the idea.

573
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,240
But of course, any large-scale government program

574
00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,440
raises questions about cost and sustainability.

575
00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,600
And there is the potential for moral hazard.

576
00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,640
Moral hazard meaning what?

577
00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,320
Where people might take on more risk

578
00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,400
if they know the government will bail them out.

579
00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,120
Right.

580
00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:13,000
It's complicated.

581
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,440
There are no easy answers here.

582
00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:14,760
No.

583
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,280
A very complex issue.

584
00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,160
With a lot of competing interests and viewpoints.

585
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,040
Absolutely.

586
00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,360
And at the end of the day, it's up to policymakers

587
00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:26,400
to decide how to balance those interests and craft solutions

588
00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,120
that are both effective and fair.

589
00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,560
We're talking about so much more than insurance premiums here.

590
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,200
We are.

591
00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,920
We're talking about the future of homeownership,

592
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,200
the affordability of housing, the government's role

593
00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,080
in responding to climate change.

594
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,080
It's huge.

595
00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:41,760
It's huge.

596
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,280
You're right.

597
00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,160
This is a much bigger conversation

598
00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,600
that we're just beginning to have.

599
00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,040
And it's a conversation we need to keep having.

600
00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,000
We'll be right back with some final thoughts

601
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,560
on this complex and evolving issue.

602
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,960
Welcome back to Meteorology Matters.

603
00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,880
We've been unpacking this homeowners insurance crisis.

604
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,920
And it's clear that this is a huge issue with consequences

605
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,400
that go way beyond just those monthly payments.

606
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:06,680
Yeah.

607
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280
We're talking about the stability of entire communities.

608
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:09,920
Absolutely.

609
00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,640
The affordability of housing.

610
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:11,920
Right.

611
00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,880
The fundamental right to feel secure in your own home.

612
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,440
Exactly.

613
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,760
And as we've discussed, climate change

614
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,800
is a major catalyst for this whole thing.

615
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:26,120
It is as extreme weather events become more frequent and more

616
00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:30,000
severe, the financial strain on insurance companies

617
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,960
just keeps mounting.

618
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:31,920
It's a tough situation.

619
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,760
And that strain inevitably trickles down to homeowners.

620
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,160
It does.

621
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,960
We're seeing it in those higher premiums, the non-renewals,

622
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,160
and fewer coverage options.

623
00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:39,680
Uh-huh.

624
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:40,840
It's tough for everyone.

625
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,360
It's a vicious cycle.

626
00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:44,720
And if we don't find ways to break it,

627
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,640
the consequences could be devastating.

628
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,000
They really could.

629
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,440
I mean, what worries me is that home ownership could become

630
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,080
unattainable for a large portion of the population

631
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,640
if we don't address this head-on.

632
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:56,880
Yeah, that's a valid concern.

633
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,360
And it's not unthinkable that we could end up

634
00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:03,560
with a two-tiered system where those who can afford to live

635
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,000
in safe, insured homes are protected

636
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,280
while others are left vulnerable to the whims of nature

637
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,040
and the financial fallout of climate change.

638
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,160
Absolutely.

639
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,080
Raises some serious questions about fairness and equity.

640
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:18,560
It does.

641
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,080
So where do we go from here?

642
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:20,480
Well.

643
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,640
We've talked about a lot of challenges.

644
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,040
Yeah.

645
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,320
But what are some potential paths forward?

646
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,800
I mean, where can we find some hope in all of this?

647
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,720
Well, as we touched on earlier, the role of government

648
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,720
is going to be crucial.

649
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,080
OK.

650
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,240
There's a growing call for government intervention

651
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,200
to help stabilize the insurance market.

652
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,680
OK.

653
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,560
Maybe provide financial assistance to homeowners

654
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,920
and invest in those climate resilience measures that

655
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,440
can actually reduce risk.

656
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,280
Sounds like a multifaceted problem

657
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,040
requires multifaceted solution.

658
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:48,520
It does.

659
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,240
We can't just keep putting band-aids on a system

660
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,880
that's fundamentally strained.

661
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,080
We need to invest in innovative solutions.

662
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,280
Yes.

663
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,040
Maybe it's developing new building material that

664
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,680
can withstand extreme weather or promoting

665
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,520
sustainable land use practices or even

666
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,360
exploring alternative insurance models that

667
00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:10,400
are better suited to the realities of climate change.

668
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,680
There's got to be a better way.

669
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,640
There might be.

670
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,760
We need to shift away from the traditional mindset

671
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,160
of simply ensuring against risk.

672
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,640
Right.

673
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,840
And embrace a more holistic approach, one

674
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,520
that emphasizes prevention, mitigation, and adaptation.

675
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,480
I like that working with nature, not against it.

676
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:26,980
Exactly.

677
00:20:26,980 --> 00:20:30,640
And that shift requires collaboration across the board.

678
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,240
Absolutely.

679
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,240
We need all levels of government, the private sector,

680
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,000
and individual homeowners all working together

681
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,320
to create a more resilient future.

682
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,520
And the good news is we're already

683
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,160
seeing some inspiring examples.

684
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:42,840
We are.

685
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,840
Of communities coming together to find creative solutions.

686
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,440
That's right.

687
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,120
Like, give us some hope.

688
00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:50,360
What are people doing that's actually working?

689
00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,200
Well, for instance, some coastal communities

690
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,360
are implementing what are called managed retreat programs.

691
00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:58,680
They're strategically relocating homes and infrastructure

692
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,960
away from high risk areas.

693
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,400
OK.

694
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,680
It's a tough decision.

695
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:02,880
Right.

696
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,400
But it's a proactive way to reduce exposure to future disasters.

697
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,720
It's a bold move, but it makes sense in the long run.

698
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,440
It does.

699
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,080
What other approaches are you seeing?

700
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:12,560
Yeah.

701
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,320
Well, we're seeing communities invest

702
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,440
in what's called natural infrastructure.

703
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:16,800
OK.

704
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,360
Things like restoring wetlands and planting trees.

705
00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:19,880
Right.

706
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,240
To act as buffers against storms and reduce flooding.

707
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:23,840
Right.

708
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,400
You know, these nature-based solutions not only

709
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,680
protect homes and property, but they also

710
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,440
have ecological benefits.

711
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,560
It's a win-win.

712
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,120
It is.

713
00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:36,080
I love that finding ways to work with nature, not against it.

714
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,760
Exactly.

715
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,600
And there are so many other innovative ideas popping up.

716
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:39,800
Yeah.

717
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,280
From community-based insurance pools

718
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,200
to micro-insurance programs designed specifically

719
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,560
for low-income homeowners.

720
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,080
Wow.

721
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,320
People are getting creative and finding solutions

722
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,240
that work for their unique circumstances.

723
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,600
That's encouraging to hear.

724
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,080
It shows that while this homeowners insurance crisis

725
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,560
presents some very real challenges,

726
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,280
it also presents an opportunity for innovation.

727
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,000
For collaboration and a fundamental rethinking

728
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,240
of how we live in a world increasingly

729
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,280
shaped by climate change.

730
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,920
It's a call to action for all of us to get involved.

731
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:13,760
Stay informed.

732
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,320
Absolutely.

733
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,520
And work together to create a more resilient future.

734
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,240
Well said.

735
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,000
So to our listeners out there, we want to hear from you.

736
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,560
We do.

737
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,000
What are your thoughts and experiences with this homeowners

738
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000
insurance crisis?

739
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,480
Yeah.

740
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,960
Have you faced challenges finding or affording coverage?

741
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,600
Mm-hmm.

742
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,320
Share your stories and insights on social media

743
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,000
using the hashtag hashtag meteorology matters.

744
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,320
And don't forget to follow meteorologist Rob Jones

745
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,720
on Instagram at at meteorologist on TikTok

746
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,800
at at TV meteorologists.

747
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,640
And on YouTube, follow at Rob Jones' Hurricane.

748
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,320
Perfect.

749
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,880
You can also find meteorology matters in the podcast

750
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,320
playlist.

751
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,640
We'll see you next time.

752
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,480
Thanks for joining us.

753
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,880
And remember, well, this situation may seem daunting.

754
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,040
Knowledge is power.

755
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,520
The more we understand about the forces at play,

756
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,840
the better equipped will be to navigate this complex landscape

757
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:06,520
and advocate for solutions that work for everyone.

