1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,960 Well, folks, buckle up because we've got a lot to cover today. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,960 We're diving into some pretty big news 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,720 that's sending shock waves through the political landscape 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,920 and has major implications for the environment. 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Yeah, today's a big one. 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,720 The decisions being made are going 7 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,680 to have ripple effects for years, maybe even generations 8 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,760 to come, touching everything from conservation 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,160 to how we remember a US president. 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,040 OK, so imagine those classic American West landscapes, 11 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:26,540 right? 12 00:00:26,540 --> 00:00:27,040 Yeah. 13 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,480 The vast deserts and towering mountains, 14 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,800 the kind of places just full of history and natural wonder. 15 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,320 Those iconic vistas are now at the heart 16 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,680 of this huge conservation push, a move that's 17 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:38,840 causing quite a stir. 18 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,800 So here's the deal. 19 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,000 President Biden has just created two brand new national 20 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,720 monuments in California, the Chuckwalla National 21 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Monument and the Satyitlahilans National Monument. 22 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,200 And get this, together they protect almost a million acres 23 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,240 of land, 848,000, to be exact. 24 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,960 This is a big deal for a couple of reasons. 25 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,880 First, they're part of this bigger vision, 26 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,680 creating, get this, the biggest protected land corridor 27 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,400 in the lower 48 states. 28 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,520 It's called the Moab to Mojave Conservation Corridor. 29 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Whoa, that's massive. 30 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Tell me more about this corridor. 31 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,600 What's it all about? 32 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,040 Picture this, 600 miles of protected land, 33 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,320 stretching all the way from Utah's Bears Ears National 34 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,720 Monument to the California deserts. 35 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,480 And it's not just about the scenery. 36 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,360 It's about protecting the culture and spiritual heritage 37 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,840 of the tribes who have called these lands home for, 38 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,120 well, forever. 39 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,920 So it's not just about pretty landscapes. 40 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,680 We're talking about preserving the history 41 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,680 and cultural connections to these places, right? 42 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Absolutely. 43 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,880 It's about recognizing those deep ties between people 44 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,680 and the land, and why it's so important to protect 45 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,480 those connections, you know, for future generations. 46 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,880 All right, let's get into the nitty gritty. 47 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,280 First up, the Chuckwalla National Monument. 48 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,760 What's so special about this place? 49 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,800 What makes it stand out? 50 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,920 Well, Chuckwalla is a unique blend of rugged beauty 51 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,760 and ecological importance. 52 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Imagine hiking through the painted canyon of Mecca Hills, 53 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,320 checking out unusual formations like Alligator Rock, 54 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,040 and maybe even spotting a Chuckwalla lizard. 55 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,160 That's where the monument gets its name. 56 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,520 Sounds like a nature lover's paradise. 57 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,080 I bet there's a ton of biodiversity 58 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,680 in those 624,000 acres, am I right? 59 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,880 Oh, absolutely. 60 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,920 Chuckwalla sits right where the Mojave 61 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:18,680 and Colorado deserts meet. 62 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,560 It's known for having a huge variety of plants and animals. 63 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Over 50 rare species call it home. 64 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,520 So this designation is going to be huge 65 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,080 for protecting clean water and making sure 66 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,320 these unique species have room to roam. 67 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,240 So Chuckwalla is like a biodiversity hotspot, 68 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,680 and protecting it has a dominant effect beyond its borders. 69 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,520 That's pretty wild. 70 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Now, how about Satitle Highlands National Monument? 71 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,920 What's the story there? 72 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:43,600 Buckle up. 73 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,280 This landscape is all about fire and fury. 74 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,320 The Satitle Highlands are dominated by volcanoes. 75 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,640 We're talking cinder cones, lava tubes, 76 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:54,480 and even the world's longest known lava tube system. 77 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,240 It's all clustered around the Medicine Lake volcano. 78 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:57,920 Volcanoes? 79 00:02:57,920 --> 00:02:59,600 Wow, not something you see every day. 80 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,320 Is this volcano still active, by the way? 81 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,400 Well, it's considered a sleeping giant. 82 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,240 And get this, it's 10 times bigger than Mount St. Helens. 83 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,760 But don't worry, it's dormant. 84 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,520 But it's left its mark on the landscape, 85 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,080 those volcanic features I mentioned. 86 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,920 They're actually vital for water, especially those aquifers 87 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:15,880 formed by volcanic activity. 88 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,320 They supply clean water to a big chunk of northern California. 89 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,960 Wow, so these volcanoes aren't just dramatic scenery. 90 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,760 They're essential for the water supply 91 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,720 of a whole region. 92 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,640 You got it. 93 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:29,720 It's a cool example of how geology and ecology are connected. 94 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,560 And how protecting these landscapes 95 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,080 has these huge far-reaching consequences. 96 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,280 Both of these monuments sound incredible. 97 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,560 But it's not just about the scenery, right? 98 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,160 I heard they also protect important cultural 99 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,760 and historical sites. 100 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,720 What's the story there? 101 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,560 You're totally right. 102 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,920 These lands have more than just ecological value. 103 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,960 They're steeped in cultural and historical significance, 104 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,040 with evidence of human presence going back centuries. 105 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,840 We're talking about ancient trails, sacred sites, 106 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,680 even petroglyphs, those rock carvings that give us 107 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,920 a peek into the past. 108 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,560 Protecting these areas means preserving these treasures 109 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,880 for future generations. 110 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,240 It's mind-blowing to think that we 111 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,320 can protect both the natural wonders 112 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,200 and these echoes of history embedded in these landscapes. 113 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,120 And get this, the Biden administration 114 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,400 is doing all this while also promoting clean energy. 115 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Right. 116 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,000 I've heard that both monuments will 117 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,560 allow for building transmission lines 118 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,240 to carry renewable energy to cities in the West. 119 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,160 That's right. 120 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,920 President Biden is trying to find that balance, you know? 121 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Addressing the need for climate action 122 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,880 while also making sure we respect those who might 123 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,440 be affected by these conservation efforts. 124 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,440 But here's the thing. 125 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Not everyone's thrilled about these monument designations. 126 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,040 Some see this as a way to block fossil fuel development 127 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,920 in these areas. 128 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,160 Ah, so there's a political side to this story, too. 129 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,280 It sounds like there are some strong opinions 130 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:48,960 on how these lands should be used 131 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,640 and what the priorities should be. 132 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,520 Exactly. 133 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Those differing opinions are at the heart of the controversy 134 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,320 surrounding these designations. 135 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,040 It's not just a simple conservation versus development 136 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,840 debate. 137 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:03,280 It's about balancing everyone's interests, local communities, 138 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,600 energy companies, environmental advocates, everyone. 139 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,560 It's like a giant puzzle with no easy answers. 140 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,200 So can you break down the legal tools President Biden is 141 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,600 using to achieve these conservation goals? 142 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,040 And maybe shed some light on why they're 143 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,320 causing so much debate. 144 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Well, there are a couple of key legal tools 145 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,600 President Biden's using to push his conservation agenda. 146 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,960 One is the Antiquities Act. 147 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,800 It's a pretty old law, actually, over 100 years old. 148 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,880 It lets the president protect land that 149 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,560 has historical or scientific importance. 150 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,800 So it's not a brand new tactic. 151 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,920 It's got history behind it. 152 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,720 You got it. 153 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Presidents from both parties have used it 154 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,440 to create national monuments. 155 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:44,520 The other tool is the 1953 Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act. 156 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,080 They call it OC SLA for short. 157 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,840 That one's more about offshore areas. 158 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:50,640 It gives the president the power to say, hey, 159 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,680 no oil and gas leasing here. 160 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,560 And Biden's been using it to stop drilling along huge stretches 161 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,440 of the US coast. 162 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,880 So one law is about land. 163 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,400 The other is about water. 164 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,360 But they're both about conservation in the end. 165 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,800 No wonder they're stirring up controversy. 166 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,200 Yeah. 167 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,400 These laws give presidents a lot of power 168 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,960 to shape environmental policy. 169 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,840 And that often leads to pushback, 170 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:10,880 especially when those actions impact industries 171 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,640 like, well, fossil fuels. 172 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,120 It reminds us that environmental policy is complicated. 173 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,320 You've got to balance different interests and values. 174 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,320 It is fascinating how these legal tools are shaping things, 175 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,560 both literally and figuratively. 176 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,880 But let's get back to the monuments themselves. 177 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,920 What about their specific features? 178 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,800 What makes each one so unique? 179 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Let's start with Chakawalla. 180 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,120 One of the things that makes it so special 181 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,120 is the sheer variety of life there. 182 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,280 Like we said before, it's home to over 50 rare species 183 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:39,760 of plants and animals. 184 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,400 You've got the desert, big horned sheep, 185 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,240 a classic symbol of the Southwest. 186 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,520 They navigate those steep canyons. 187 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,000 And then there's the Agassiz desert tortoise, 188 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,760 just slowly making its way across the sandy flats. 189 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,960 That's like a real life nose art for desert creatures. 190 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:54,960 And the plants. 191 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Over 50 rare species thriving in this protected landscape. 192 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Each one has these incredible adaptations 193 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,960 to survive in this harsh environment, extreme temperatures, 194 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,360 drought conditions. 195 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,880 They've evolved over thousands of years to handle it all. 196 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,920 True survivors. 197 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Now, what about Sittitla Highlands? 198 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,560 You mentioned protecting a volcanic landscape like that 199 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,480 is key for water resources. 200 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Can you expand on that a bit? 201 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:18,560 Sure. 202 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,800 The volcanic features of the Sittitla Highlands 203 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,840 are directly connected to the water supply 204 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,960 for a huge chunk of California. 205 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,240 Those volcanic aquifers we talked about, 206 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,160 think of them like giant underground reservoirs, 207 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,600 holding tons of water. 208 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,000 And they feed the Fall River Springs, 209 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 the largest spring system in California, 210 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,480 and one of the biggest in the entire West. 211 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,640 Wow. 212 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,040 It's all connected, isn't it? 213 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,680 The health of these ecosystems has a direct impact 214 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,040 on people and communities. 215 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,040 Exactly. 216 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,120 These designations are a recognition 217 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,400 that these lands and waters are inherently valuable, 218 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,840 for their ecological and cultural importance. 219 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,000 And speaking of cultural significance, 220 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,920 these areas hold deep meaning for tribes 221 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,080 and indigenous people, right? 222 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,880 Absolutely. 223 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,720 The Sittitla Highlands, for example, 224 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,920 are sacred to the Pitt River tribe. 225 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,640 The Medicine Lake volcano and the surrounding landscape 226 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,920 hold deep spiritual meaning for them. 227 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,040 Protecting this area is about respecting 228 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,120 their cultural heritage and their relationship with the land. 229 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,880 And it's not just the Sittitla Highlands. 230 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,560 The Chuckwalla National Monument also 231 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 has those important cultural and historical treasures, right? 232 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,040 Oh, yeah. 233 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Chuckwalla protects ancient trails, sacred sites, 234 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,040 petroglyphs. 235 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,880 You've got geoglyphs and pictographs, too. 236 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,680 They're like chapters in a history book, 237 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,440 etched right into the land. 238 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,400 These designations are about honoring that history, 239 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,920 making sure those stories get passed down. 240 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,240 It's pretty powerful to think about these places, 241 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,320 holding not only natural beauty, but also these human stories 242 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,800 going back centuries. 243 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,560 These designations recognize that these lands have more 244 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:47,960 than just ecological value. 245 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,720 They have cultural and spiritual value, too. 246 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,120 And those values are often intertwined. 247 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,720 The way indigenous people have lived with these landscapes 248 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,880 for millennia shows their deep understanding of nature, 249 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,600 their commitment to living in harmony with it. 250 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,200 It's like we can learn valuable lessons from the past 251 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,360 to guide our conservation efforts in the present. 252 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,480 Their knowledge and practices are full of lessons 253 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,360 for how we can approach conservation and stewardship 254 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,880 in a way that benefits both people and the planet. 255 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,920 It's about finding ways to live sustainably and respectfully 256 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,680 within these ecosystems. 257 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:20,600 It's all about balance, isn't it? 258 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Balancing the needs of today with the needs of the future 259 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,680 and figuring out ways to live in harmony 260 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:26,880 with the natural world. 261 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,920 Exactly. 262 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,440 And that brings us back to President Biden's legacy. 263 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,800 He's making these bold moves to protect 264 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,480 these incredible places. 265 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,760 But as we've been talking about, he's also getting pushback 266 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,440 from people who see conservation as an obstacle 267 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,640 to economic development. 268 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:41,960 Right. 269 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,560 That tension we talked about before, 270 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:46,240 conservation versus economic growth. 271 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,120 It's a tricky issue, no doubt. 272 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,200 But I think it's important to remember that true progress 273 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,080 means finding ways to balance economic growth 274 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,880 with protecting the environment. 275 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,080 It's about solutions that benefit both people and the planet. 276 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,680 That's a tall order. 277 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:03,760 But it seems like these monument designations 278 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,800 are making us have these important conversations, 279 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,840 making us grapple with these tough questions. 280 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,720 And that's a good thing. 281 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,160 These conversations are necessary. 282 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,960 Well, these monument designations are definitely 283 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,440 raising a lot of questions. 284 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,200 What are some of the key arguments from both sides, 285 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,680 from those who support and those who oppose these actions? 286 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:22,840 Those who support the designations, 287 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,000 they often see this as a win for conservation, 288 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,440 a crucial step in fighting climate change. 289 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,760 They argue that protecting these large landscapes 290 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,160 helps protect biodiversity, preserve natural resources 291 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,280 like clean water, and fight the effects 292 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,800 of a changing climate. 293 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,360 They also highlight the cultural and historical importance 294 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,280 of these areas, stressing the need to protect those treasures 295 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,080 for future generations. 296 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,120 And importantly, they point out the potential 297 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,760 for these monuments to boost ecotourism and outdoor 298 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,800 recreation, creating new economic opportunities 299 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,240 in rural communities. 300 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,720 So for supporters, it's about conservation, 301 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,120 cultural preservation, and even potential economic benefits. 302 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,240 What about those who oppose the designations? 303 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,680 What are their main concerns? 304 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:05,560 Well, those who oppose the designations 305 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:07,840 often worry about the economic impacts, 306 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,880 especially in communities that depend on things like mining 307 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,600 or energy extraction. 308 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,920 They argue that restricting access to these lands 309 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,560 could hurt economic growth, limit jobs and development. 310 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:20,960 Some also worry about too much federal control 311 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,120 and the impact on private property rights. 312 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,320 They feel these decisions should be made locally, 313 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,920 not by the federal government. 314 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,320 And then you have those who just disagree with setting aside 315 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 large areas of land for conservation. 316 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,200 They argue it hinders development and limits 317 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,240 how we use natural resources. 318 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,760 So for opponents, it's about economic impacts, 319 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,760 local control, and a different view on how humans 320 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,320 and nature should interact. 321 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Exactly. 322 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,280 And it's important to recognize that these are complex issues 323 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,040 with valid concerns on all sides. 324 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,200 It's not about right or wrong. 325 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,760 It's about talking to each other, listening, 326 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,480 and finding common ground. 327 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Maybe there are solutions that can meet the need 328 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,520 for conservation while also making sure 329 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,200 there are economic opportunities 330 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,040 and respecting local concerns. 331 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,120 Maybe these designations could even lead to innovation. 332 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,560 New approaches to sustainable development 333 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:09,200 and resource management. 334 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,360 It's like a challenge to find creative solutions 335 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,680 that work for both people and the planet. 336 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:14,640 That's a great point. 337 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Sometimes these tough situations 338 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,080 can lead to positive change. 339 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,040 We've been looking at the big picture. 340 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,600 But what do these monument designations mean 341 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,840 for everyday people, 342 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,440 for someone listening to this deep dive right now? 343 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Well, I think it challenges us all 344 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,960 to think about the choices we make, 345 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,360 both as individuals and as a society. 346 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,840 What kind of future do we want? 347 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,360 What are our values when it comes to the environment? 348 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,960 To cultural heritage? 349 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,800 To economic development? 350 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,800 These designations are a powerful reminder 351 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,320 that we're all connected. 352 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,520 Our actions have consequences. 353 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,640 And we have a responsibility to take care of this planet. 354 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,040 These decisions are definitely sparking 355 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,640 some important conversations 356 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,120 about our relationship with nature 357 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,160 and the legacy we leave behind for future generations. 358 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,120 What about you? 359 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,160 What are your thoughts on the long-term impact 360 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,000 of these monument designations? 361 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,400 Well, you know, it's always tough 362 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,280 to predict the future exactly. 363 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,880 But we can look at what's happened before, right? 364 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,240 And current trends. 365 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,440 When it comes to the environment, 366 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,960 these designations could be really impactful. 367 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,680 By protecting these big connected landscapes, 368 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:18,160 we're creating these safe spaces for all sorts of life. 369 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,560 Helping to make sure those plants and animals, 370 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:23,040 some that are only found here, can survive. 371 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Yeah, like we're setting up these giant nature preserves, huh? 372 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,200 Where things can thrive without the constant threat 373 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,000 of development or having their habitats chopped up. 374 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,840 Exactly. 375 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,240 And it's not just about what's inside 376 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,640 the monument boundaries. 377 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,160 Protecting these areas helps keep our water clean, you know? 378 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,880 And they can help fight climate change by storing carbon. 379 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,160 Plus, they offer so many opportunities 380 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,240 for scientists and for education. 381 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,640 We can learn a lot from studying these ecosystems 382 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,920 that haven't been messed with. 383 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,360 So it's like we're protecting them, 384 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,960 not just for their own good, 385 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,720 but for the benefits they provide to us humans 386 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,280 and the planet as a whole. 387 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,480 It's all connected. 388 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,440 Exactly. 389 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,560 And when we think about the culture and history, 390 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:03,360 these designations can really help preserve the stories 391 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,960 and traditions of indigenous people and other communities 392 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,600 who have these deep connections to the land. 393 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Protecting sacred sites, ancient trails, 394 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,240 all those cultural resources. 395 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,960 It's about honoring those connections 396 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,040 and making sure those stories are passed down. 397 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,320 It's like weaving those stories into the very landscape, 398 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,960 making sure they're never forgotten. 399 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,520 And those stories have a lot to teach us 400 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,280 about how we relate to nature, 401 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,920 about resilience, about living sustainably. 402 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,520 They offer these great insights 403 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,960 into living in harmony with our surroundings. 404 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,080 It sounds like these monument designations 405 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,040 could have these ripple facts far into the future. 406 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Impacting everything from how healthy our ecosystems are 407 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,800 to how we preserve our cultural heritage. 408 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,640 And don't forget the economics of it all. 409 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Some folks worry about losing jobs in certain industries, 410 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,920 but others see these designations 411 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,120 as a chance for new economic opportunities, 412 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,400 especially in ecotourism and outdoor recreation. 413 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,920 I can definitely see these monuments 414 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,840 drawing people from all over, 415 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,000 wanting to experience those landscapes, 416 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,240 the wildlife, the cultural treasures. 417 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,400 Absolutely. 418 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,720 And all those visitors mean new jobs, new businesses, 419 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,800 more revenue for local communities. 420 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,560 We've seen it happen time and time again 421 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,760 with national parks and other protected areas. 422 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,920 They become economic engines for the surrounding regions. 423 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,640 So maybe these monument designations 424 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,240 could even lead to a more diverse and sustainable economy. 425 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,520 One that's less about extracting resources 426 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,280 and more about protecting and celebrating 427 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,720 what makes these places special. 428 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,760 That's the idea. 429 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,600 And that's a big reason why these designations 430 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,400 are starting such important conversations. 431 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,040 They make us think about what matters most, you know, 432 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,040 what we value and what kind of future we want for ourselves 433 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,080 and for the generations that come after us. 434 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,320 Well, I think we can all agree 435 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,000 that these monument designations 436 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,400 are much more than just lines on a map. 437 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,840 They represent a whole mix of environmental, 438 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,800 cultural, economic and political considerations. 439 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,560 They really challenge us to think about 440 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,000 how we relate to nature and the legacy we leave behind. 441 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,200 In the end, it's up to all of us 442 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,160 to decide what that legacy will be. 443 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,960 Are we going to protect these amazing places? 444 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Honor the stories they hold 445 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,880 and build a future that's both prosperous and sustainable. 446 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Or are we going to let them be degraded, exploited, 447 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,120 and eventually disappear? 448 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,800 Those are some big questions for all of us to consider. 449 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,280 And if you're interested in learning more, 450 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,200 there's a ton of information out there. 451 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,520 We've put together a list of articles, reports, 452 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,720 and fact sheets that we think you'll find fascinating. 453 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,200 You can find those links in the show notes. 454 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,200 Definitely check them out. 455 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,520 There's so much to explore 456 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,320 about these monument designations. 457 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:49,560 Until next time, keep those curious minds going.