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Okay, so the 2024 election is getting closer and closer.

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And we're dicing into a topic that I think we can all agree

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is gonna have an impact on everyone,

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and that's climate change.

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We've got all these articles piled up here

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from sources like factcheck.org,

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The New York Times, The Washington Post,

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even the Atlantic Council.

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And they're all saying that there's this huge difference

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between how Donald Trump and Kamala Harris

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plan to approach climate change.

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It's pretty stark.

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Yeah, so in this deep dive,

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we're gonna try to break down the differences

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between their approaches and get into how each candidate's

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approach could affect you, you know, personally.

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Yeah, and I think what's really interesting here

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is that we're not just talking about some, like,

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you know, abstract political debate.

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Right.

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This is about stuff that could, like,

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directly affect your wallet, your health,

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maybe even your community.

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Like, this is real-world stuff.

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And to even begin to understand those impacts,

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I think we need to start with just how different

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their positions are.

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For example, you know, there are quotes from the debate

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where Harris is calling climate change very real.

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She uses terms like, you know, crisis, existential threat.

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And then you have Trump who's, like,

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you know, pretty much dismissing it as a hoax.

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acknowledging that, you know, the science is real or not.

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It's the policies they propose.

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Like, Harris has always supported measures to, you know,

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reduce emissions, like she wants to invest in renewable energy,

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promote energy efficiency.

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Trump, on the other hand, has, like,

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really focused on rolling back environmental regulations

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and boosting fossil fuel production.

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So they're coming at it from, like,

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totally opposite direction.

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So let's get into some specifics here.

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Let's start with the Paris Agreement.

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This was, like, a global agreement aimed at, like,

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reducing these greenhouse gas emissions.

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And it seems like it's a major point

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where the candidates disagree.

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Yeah, the Paris Agreement was, like, you know,

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a big achievement in, like, you know,

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international climate diplomacy.

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Almost every country in the world signed on.

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But Trump pulled the US out of the agreement

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in his first term, right?

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His argument was that it was unfair to American businesses

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and workers.

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And he said that he would do it again if he's elected.

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Trump has repeatedly said that he would pull out of the Paris

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Agreement a second time.

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He's also, like, made claims that it would cost the US

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trillions of dollars while other countries pay nothing, which

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factcheck.org has pretty clearly debunked.

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So what does that mean for, you know,

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global efforts to combat climate change

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if the US were to withdraw from the Paris Agreement?

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I mean, it would definitely be a setback, right?

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Like, the US is one of the biggest emitters

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of these greenhouse gases.

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So its participation is, like, you know,

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super important if the agreement is going to actually

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work.

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And withdrawing would basically tell other countries

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that, like, you know, the US doesn't really

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care about climate action.

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And it could even undermine the whole agreement.

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So it sounds like a second Trump administration

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would mean that, you know, international climate

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cooperation would be taking a pretty big step backwards.

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It seems that way, yeah.

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What about within the US?

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Like, what are some of the key policy differences

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between Trump and Harris?

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So one of the biggest things they disagree on

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is the Inflation Reduction Act or, you know, the IRA.

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This was, like, a big piece of legislation

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that the Biden-Harris administration passed.

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in funding for clean energy projects,

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tax credits for electric vehicles and energy efficiency

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upgrades, and even investments in, like, clean energy

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manufacturing.

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I remember that being a pretty big deal when it passed.

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But Trump called it a scam and wants to, like, get rid of it,

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Trump has been really critical of the IRA, calling it,

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you know, wasteful and arguing that it will hurt the economy.

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if he's elected, which could really slow down or even

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stop a lot of the clean energy projects that are, like,

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already in progress.

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So Trump wants to pull out of the Paris Agreement

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and gut the Inflation Reduction Act.

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Where does Harris stand on these policies?

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So Harris has been a really strong supporter

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of both the Paris Agreement and the IRA.

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She sees them as essential for, like, you know,

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tackling climate change and building a clean energy

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future for the US.

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is to invest in clean energy jobs and make sure

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that everyone benefits from the transition

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to a clean energy economy.

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You know, not just a small group of people.

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So it sounds like they have very different visions

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for the future of energy in America.

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For sure, yeah.

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And it's important to think about how

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these different visions could actually

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play out in your own life.

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Talking about things that could impact everything

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from how much you pay for energy,

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you know, your energy bills, to the air you breathe,

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to, like, what kind of jobs are going to be available where

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So I think we've established that Trump and Harris

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have this really fundamental difference in their philosophies

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when it comes to climate change and energy.

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But let's get more specific.

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How do those differences play out

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in policies that could actually happen?

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the average person?

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where we see a difference is in their approach

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to, you know, fossil fuels versus renewable energy sources.

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Trump has been a big advocate for, you know,

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expanding fossil fuel production, especially oil and gas.

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He even brought back his drill baby drill slogan

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from, like, way back in 2016.

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going to lead to energy independence and lower costs

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for consumers.

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That's his argument.

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But, you know, we've seen this before.

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doesn't necessarily mean that, like, prices are going to drop.

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how much you pay for electricity?

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Plus there's also the environmental impact.

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it releases greenhouse gases that, you know,

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contribute to climate change.

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And that pollution can, like, really hurt people's health.

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aren't usually included in the price of, like, gasoline

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or whatever.

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So people end up, like, you know,

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paying those costs in other ways.

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or their property gets damaged because of, like, you know,

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some extreme weather event.

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So if Trump's approach is, drill baby, drill,

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what is Harris proposing?

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So Harris has a, like, really different approach.

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She's focused on this transition to clean energy sources.

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Like, wind, solar and geothermal.

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She sees that as a way to, like, you know,

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create jobs, reduce pollution, and deal with climate change,

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like, all at the same time.

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But wouldn't getting rid of fossil fuels

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cause energy costs to skyrocket?

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And hurt the economy.

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That's what, you know, people who oppose these clean energy

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policies always say.

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And it's true that there can be some, like, upfront costs

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that come with moving over to clean energy.

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new technologies.

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could actually be bigger than those costs.

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like, wind and solar, are getting cheaper and cheaper,

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and they're becoming more and more competitive with fossil fuels.

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Which is really important.

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And those are usually well-paying jobs

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that can't be, like, you know, sent overseas.

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making solar panels or wind turbines.

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There are jobs and things like energy efficiency,

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retrofitting buildings, and modernizing the grid.

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and new jobs tied to moving to clean energy.

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on energy isn't just about, you know, what fuel we use.

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It's about, you know, the kind of economy

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we want to build for the future.

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It's about choosing between an economy that's

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based on, like, you know, taking and burning fossil fuels

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with all the risks that come with that.

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Or an economy that's based on clean energy

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and innovation and sustainability.

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So we've talked about the Paris Agreement, the Inflation

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Reduction Act, and, you know, all this stuff

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about fossil fuels versus renewable energy.

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Are there any other big differences

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between their policies that we should know about?

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So another one is electric vehicles.

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You know, this is an area where we've seen a lot of progress.

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and they're getting more affordable.

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But Trump has said many times that he's

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skeptical about electric vehicles.

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I remember him making some, like, crazy claims

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about electric vehicles during the campaign.

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Didn't he say they don't go very far?

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They're too expensive and that they're all made in China?

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Yeah.

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He said all that stuff.

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And fact checkers have, like, debunked all of it.

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Wow.

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Like, for example, he said once that electric trucks are

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so heavy that we'd have to rebuild all the bridges.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Which is, like, just not true.

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Wow.

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And he's also said that the Biden-Harris administration

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has a rule that's forcing people to buy electric vehicles.

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Wow.

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Which is also not true at all.

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There is no federal rule that makes people buy electric vehicles.

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Although there are emission standards for new vehicles

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that, you know, will probably lead to more electric vehicles

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being sold.

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OK.

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Yeah.

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So it seems like Trump is trying to, like, downplay

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the potential of electric vehicles

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and keep us reliant on gasoline-powered cars.

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Yeah.

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That's what it seems like.

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What's Harris' approach to this?

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So Harris has been, like, a big supporter of electric vehicles.

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OK.

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And she sees them as a really important part of, like,

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you know, dealing with climate change

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and reducing our dependence on foreign oil.

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OK.

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She's supported things like, you know, tax credits and rebates

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to encourage people to get electric vehicles.

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And she's also talked about how important it is

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to build more charging stations to make it easier

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for people to switch over.

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Right.

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So it seems like, you know, when it comes

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to the future of transportation,

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they have very different ideas.

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Yeah.

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What are some of the possible downsides to electric vehicles?

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Yeah.

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Even people who like electric vehicles

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admit that there are challenges with, you know,

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everyone switching to them.

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Yeah, you're right.

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There are definitely challenges.

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Like, one thing is the environmental impact

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of mining materials to make the batteries, especially lithium.

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And we also need a lot more charging stations,

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especially in, like, rural areas and along highways.

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And then there's the issue of how much they cost.

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Yeah.

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You know, electric vehicles are getting cheaper,

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but they're still more expensive than gas-powered cars.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So it sounds like we still have some work to do before electric

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vehicles can become, like, you know, how most people get around.

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Yeah, for sure.

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But it's important to remember that no technology is perfect.

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Right.

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And every energy source has its pros and cons, right?

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Right.

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Like, the real question is, which downsides are we OK with?

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Right.

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Are we OK with the risks and costs that come with fossil fuels?

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Or are we willing to invest in, like, a cleaner and more

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sustainable future?

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Right.

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Even if it means, like, making some changes and compromises

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along the way?

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That's a really good question.

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And it's one that, like, you know, voters

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are going to have to think about when they're deciding

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who to vote for in this election.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So we've covered a lot today, from the Paris agreement

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to electric vehicles, but we're not finished.

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There are even more policy areas to talk about,

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like regulations and energy efficiency,

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where the differences between Trump and Harris

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are also really important.

361
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Yeah, and, you know, we need to think about what this means

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for you, the listener.

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Right.

364
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Like, what does all this mean for your wallet, your health,

365
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and your community?

366
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Right.

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How is this election going to shape the future

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that you're going to be living in?

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So we've been looking at the differences between Trump

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and Harris on climate and energy.

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And it's clear that they have really different views.

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But now, let's focus on how those differences actually

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play out when we're talking about regulations.

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OK, regulations.

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I feel like this is where things can get pretty complicated

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pretty quickly.

377
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Oh, yeah, definitely.

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But it's important, though, right, because regulations

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directly affect, like, you know, businesses and consumers

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and the environment.

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Absolutely, yeah.

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Regulations are basically the rules of the game, right?

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When it comes to protecting the environment

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and producing energy.

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And like you said, Trump and Harris

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have very different ideas about what those rules should be.

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So let's start with Trump.

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OK.

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He's always talking about, like, you know, cutting red tape

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and getting the government out of the way of businesses.

391
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Yeah.

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How does that apply to environmental regulations?

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So Trump has always been critical of what he calls

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excessive environmental regulations.

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Right.

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He says they're bad for economic growth,

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that they hurt businesses, that they cost jobs.

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And he said that if he's elected,

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he'll get rid of a lot of them.

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And that includes regulations that are about climate change,

401
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right?

402
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Yeah, definitely.

403
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Like, what are some examples?

404
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So one of the biggest ones is the power plant rule.

405
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OK.

406
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This rule is meant to cut down carbon emissions

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from power plants.

408
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OK.

409
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Trump has been really critical of it.

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He says it's a job killer, that it hurts the energy industry.

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And he said that he'll get rid of it

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if he's back in the White House.

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But didn't the Supreme Court say that?

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Like, the rule could go into effect

415
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while there are still legal challenges happening?

416
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Yeah.

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So wouldn't that make it, like, harder for Trump

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to just get rid of it?

419
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You're right.

420
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It does make things more complicated.

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Like, he couldn't just sign an executive order.

422
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He'd probably have to go through this whole long regulatory

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process, which could take years.

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Wow.

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And he'd probably face legal challenges the whole time.

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But I mean, that doesn't mean he wouldn't try.

427
00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:12,840
OK.

428
00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640
So it sounds like it could be a big fight if Trump is elected.

429
00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,200
Yeah.

430
00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,600
What about Harris?

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00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,760
Where does she stand on regulations, particularly

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those that have to do with climate change?

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So Harris hasn't been as specific

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about individual regulations.

435
00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:27,900
OK.

436
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But she generally supports using them

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to protect the environment and fight climate change.

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She's talked about needing to hold polluters accountable,

439
00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,640
make sure that communities have clean air and clean water,

440
00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,760
and transition to a clean energy economy.

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So it seems like she's more likely to keep or even

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strengthen the environmental regulations we already have

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rather than weaken or get rid of them.

444
00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:52,800
Yeah.

445
00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,040
That's the main idea.

446
00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,360
She sees regulations as an important way

447
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to protect public health and the environment.

448
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Right.

449
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And she's likely to continue what the Biden administration

450
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has been doing, which is using regulations

451
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to push for cleaner energy and to cut down

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on greenhouse gas emissions.

453
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OK.

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So we've talked about regulations.

455
00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,960
What about energy efficiency?

456
00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,680
Yeah.

457
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,040
That's something everyone should be able to agree on, right?

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You'd think so, right.

459
00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:19,600
Yeah.

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Like, using less energy means less money spent,

461
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and it's better for the environment.

462
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Right.

463
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So where do they stand on this?

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Yeah.

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Well, even energy efficiency has somehow

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become something that people argue about in the climate

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debate.

468
00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,440
Really?

469
00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:33,960
Yeah.

470
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Wow.

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Harris has said that energy efficiency

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is really important for dealing with climate change

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and building a more sustainable energy system.

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OK.

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And what about Trump?

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What does he think about energy efficiency?

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Trump hasn't really said much about energy efficiency.

478
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OK.

479
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And some of the things he's said and done in the past

480
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suggests that maybe he's not that into it.

481
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OK.

482
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Like, wait.

483
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Well, for example, when he was president,

484
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his administration actually rolled back energy efficiency

485
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standards for things like light bulbs, appliances,

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and buildings.

487
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Hm.

488
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OK.

489
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Yeah.

490
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So this is another area where their approaches are different.

491
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Yeah.

492
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Harris thinks energy efficiency is a big part of the solution,

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while Trump doesn't seem to think it's as important.

494
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Exactly.

495
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And that difference can have real world impacts.

496
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Oh, yeah, for sure.

497
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Like, stricter energy efficiency rules

498
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can help lower people's energy bills,

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make us less reliant on fossil fuels,

500
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and reduce our impact on the environment.

501
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But if you weaken or get rid of those standards,

502
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it can have the opposite effect.

503
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For sure.

504
00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,640
It's interesting how these kind of technical policy details

505
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can actually affect people's lives in big ways.

506
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Absolutely.

507
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And it shows how important it is to actually pay attention

508
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to these things and understand how the choices we make

509
00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,360
in this election could shape the future of energy

510
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and the environment for a long time.

511
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OK.

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So we talked about regulations and energy efficiency.

513
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But there's one more thing I want to talk about before we

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wrap things up.

515
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OK.

516
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,160
And that's the economic impacts of these different approaches.

517
00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:08,840
Yeah.

518
00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,320
Trump always says that doing something about climate change

519
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will hurt the economy.

520
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:14,960
Right.

521
00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,760
But Harris says that investing in clean energy

522
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will create jobs and actually help the economy grow.

523
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,840
So who's right?

524
00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,160
I mean, it's not as simple as one or the other.

525
00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:26,840
Right.

526
00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,560
There are definitely costs that come with moving

527
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to a clean energy economy.

528
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Right.

529
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But there are also a lot of economic opportunities.

530
00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:34,400
OK.

531
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,760
And like we saw with the Inflation Reduction Act,

532
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there are ways to make policies that

533
00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,800
encourage people to invest in clean energy and create jobs

534
00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,840
while also addressed in climate change.

535
00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,960
So it's not really a choice between the economy

536
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or the environment.

537
00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,160
Right.

538
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,920
We can find solutions that help both.

539
00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:51,920
Yeah, exactly.

540
00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,560
And that's kind of what this election comes down to, right?

541
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,320
It's like choosing between these two

542
00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,360
really different futures.

543
00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:00,920
One where we keep relying on fossil fuels

544
00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,160
with all the risks and costs that come with that.

545
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:03,440
Yeah.

546
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:09,000
Or a future where we put money into clean energy, innovation,

547
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,720
and a more sustainable economy.

548
00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,240
OK.

549
00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,440
The decision is like up to all of us.

550
00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,280
Well, we've gone over a lot in this deep dive.

551
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,120
Yeah, we have.

552
00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:21,600
We looked at the Paris Agreement, the Inflation Reduction Act,

553
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,800
the whole fossil fuels versus renewable energy debate,

554
00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,200
the role of regulations, why energy efficiency is important,

555
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,440
and how all these choices affect the economy.

556
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:30,840
Yeah.

557
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,120
And we've seen that Trump and Harris have really

558
00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:35,560
different approaches to these issues.

559
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,240
And those differences could have a big impact on the planet,

560
00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,800
the economy, and our everyday lives.

561
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,680
So the question is, what does all of this mean for you,

562
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,280
the listener?

563
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:45,780
Right.

564
00:18:45,780 --> 00:18:49,160
How will this election affect your life?

565
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,920
Yeah.

566
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,560
Your community, your future?

567
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,680
That's the question we're going to talk about in our last part.

568
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,360
We're going to connect all these policy debates back

569
00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:59,600
to your own personal experience and explore

570
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,480
what's at stake for you in this really important election.

571
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,200
OK.

572
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,240
So we're back for the last part of our deep dive

573
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,840
into climate policies and the 2024 election.

574
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,720
We've spent a lot of time talking

575
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,240
about the differences between Trump and Harris's approaches.

576
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,560
But now, how could those different views actually affect you?

577
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:21,960
Yeah.

578
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,880
It's easy to get lost in all the big picture stuff,

579
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,480
like global agreements and national policies.

580
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,080
But when you really get down to it,

581
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,280
climate change and energy policy are

582
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,040
about what happens in the real world to real people

583
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,160
and their communities.

584
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,760
Let's start with something that affects all of us.

585
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,600
Money.

586
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,100
OK.

587
00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:41,120
How much things cost.

588
00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:41,400
Right.

589
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:41,800
Yeah.

590
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,000
Like, energy prices.

591
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,360
Yeah.

592
00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:44,520
It's a big deal for everyone.

593
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,080
For sure.

594
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,400
Trump's plan is to produce a lot more fossil fuels.

595
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,080
And he says, that'll make energy cheaper.

596
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:51,600
Right.

597
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,200
But like we talked about before, there's no guarantee of that.

598
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,360
Yeah, not really.

599
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,640
Like, global markets are really complicated.

600
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,580
And just because we produce more energy

601
00:20:00,580 --> 00:20:03,600
doesn't mean that the price of gas or electricity

602
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,360
is going to go down.

603
00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:04,760
Yeah.

604
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,960
And plus, when you're relying on fossil fuels,

605
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,240
you're also at the mercy of whatever's

606
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,480
happening in the world, right?

607
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,480
Right.

608
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,240
If there's a conflict in a place that produces oil,

609
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080
the prices could go way up.

610
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,880
And there's nothing we can do about it.

611
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,920
So Harris's focus on switching to clean energy

612
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,360
might mean like, you have to spend some money up front.

613
00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:26,720
Yeah.

614
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,800
Like, to put fuller panels on your house

615
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,280
or to buy an electric car.

616
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,780
Right.

617
00:20:30,780 --> 00:20:34,120
But remember, she supports the Inflation Reduction Act.

618
00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:35,000
Yeah.

619
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,880
And that has those tax credits and rebates that

620
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,320
can help make those things more affordable.

621
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,440
And then over time, you might actually end up saving money

622
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,200
because your energy bills would be lower.

623
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,760
Exactly.

624
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,520
So it might cost more at first.

625
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,800
But in the long run, you could save money with Harris's plan.

626
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,920
Yeah, exactly.

627
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,680
What about our health?

628
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,200
Right.

629
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,840
That's a big one that people don't always think about.

630
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,560
Burning fossil fuels release all this pollution that

631
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,120
can cause breathing problems, heart disease,

632
00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:02,680
and all sorts of other health problems.

633
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,000
Right.

634
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,720
And those health problems mean more health care costs

635
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,560
and just a worse quality of life.

636
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,240
And these health problems are often

637
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,160
worse in communities that live near power plants or refineries.

638
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,880
Right.

639
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,120
And those are often low income communities of color

640
00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:21,240
that are like hit the hardest.

641
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,200
Harris has talked about this idea of environmental justice.

642
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:24,720
Yeah.

643
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,840
Making sure that when we transition to clean energy,

644
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,160
that it benefits everyone and not just wealthy people.

645
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:32,640
Right.

646
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,440
And then, of course, there's the most obvious impact

647
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,040
of climate change, which is that extreme weather is

648
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,000
becoming more common and more intense.

649
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,360
Yeah.

650
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:45,200
Like heat waves, droughts, floods, wildfires, hurricanes,

651
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,720
these things are getting worse and happening more often.

652
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:47,880
Yeah.

653
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,280
And they're already costing us lives and billions

654
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,440
of dollars in damages.

655
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,840
And it's not just about what happens right when these events hit.

656
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,200
It's about the long term consequences, too.

657
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:58,560
Right.

658
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,240
Like how they affect agriculture, our water resources,

659
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,560
coastal communities, and even entire ecosystems.

660
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,080
Yeah.

661
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,680
I mean, think about it.

662
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,920
Extreme weather can disrupt food supplies, right?

663
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,400
Yeah.

664
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,240
Damage our roads, our bridges, our power grids,

665
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,400
all of our infrastructure.

666
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:14,680
Right.

667
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,080
It can force people to leave their homes.

668
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,440
Yeah.

669
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,640
And it can threaten the natural resources

670
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,960
that we depend on.

671
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,080
So basically, what you're saying is that when you vote

672
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,160
in this election, you're not just choosing a president.

673
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,440
Right.

674
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,640
You're choosing a future.

675
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,200
Yeah.

676
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,240
And all those articles we read, they really

677
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040
show a clear choice between two very different ways

678
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,640
of thinking about climate change and energy.

679
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,000
Trump's approach is all about deregulation,

680
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,320
sticking with fossil fuels and not really believing

681
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,160
the science about climate change.

682
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,160
And Harris wants to swoop to clean energy,

683
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,640
invest in new technologies, and put policies in place

684
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,200
to deal with the impacts of climate change.

685
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,520
Right.

686
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,040
And like we've been talking about,

687
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,240
those different approaches could

688
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,320
lead to very different realities for you, your family,

689
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,080
and your community.

690
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,040
Yeah.

691
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,360
Like it could affect how much you pay for energy, your health,

692
00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,320
the air you breathe, the water you drink,

693
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,480
how stable the climate is, and even

694
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,560
what kind of job opportunities are available.

695
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,200
So as we wrap up this deep dive, we

696
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,960
want to leave you with one final thought.

697
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,320
OK.

698
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,920
What is at stake for you in this election?

699
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,960
We really encourage you to keep learning about these issues,

700
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,560
talk to people about them, and most importantly, vote.

701
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,040
Yeah.

702
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,960
The decisions we make today will shape the world

703
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,200
we live in tomorrow.

704
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,960
Thanks for joining us on this deep dive.

705
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:38,000
And remember, your vote matters.

