Welcome to Deep Roots, the podcast from Oak Hill
College, where we have conversations about theology
and ministry. My name's Jonny Reid. I'm the
director of engagement here at Oak Hill. I'm
also service and elder at Town Church Bicester
and FIEC Church in Oxfordshire. And it's my delight
to have with me Reverend Dr. Andrew Cowan. I've
given him his full title there, our new tutor
in Greek and New Testament here at Oak Hill.
And we're chatting about a particular topic.
You've seen it. You've clicked on this podcast.
You've probably read the title. Why should we
bother with biblical languages? And you may be
listening, going. that you should bother with
them and feeling a bit guilty because you've
maybe not kept them going or a bit unsure. Why
should we bother with biblical languages? Surely
we don't need them because we've got translations
today and we don't need them. Here at Oak Hill,
you'll hear it come across. We're passionate
about making biblical languages accessible to
all who want to be able to take them, keeping
people going with them as well. So that's what
we're going to talk about, why we should bother
with biblical languages. Andrew, thanks for joining
us. Let's ask you this first. When did you first
realize the value or maybe more than that, the
beauty of studying for you Greek? Yeah, I think
for me that happened kind of organically. Initially,
it was just modeled really well by a pastor I
had when I was in my teens who just really cared
about getting into the Bible and thinking about
it carefully and prized reading in the original
languages as part of that process. And that just
seemed to me to have a great deal of integrity
about it. And the text just came alive when he
preached. I went then to study theology as an
undergraduate and was forced to do biblical languages
as part of that, although I was kind of looking
forward to it because of that. And it just, for
me, the text kind of came alive in that process.
And all sorts of things that I just hadn't really
thought about before started to kind of come
in on me at that point. We'll get to kind of
talking a bit about, for others, why. But particularly
for you, how is studying the Bible in its original
languages affected your own spiritual life? Yeah,
I mean, one of the big things is it just makes
you slow down and think more carefully about
the text. Like you're looking often word by word.
You're just thinking, how does this fit together?
How does it make sense? What does it mean? So
there's that side of things. You just take more
care and are getting into the details. The other
side of it is just you appreciate the kind of
differences between where we are reading, in
my case, English today and somebody in the first
century reading Greek or earlier than that in
Hebrew. And the ways in which the languages are
just so different. So English kind of flattens
out the differences even between genres, never
mind languages. And you get your Bible and just
often it reads kind of the same. But Greek and
Hebrew are very different from each other. It's
a very kind of visceral experience at times reading
in like Hebrew and Greek is such a kind of precise
and technical thing. It's just a very different
experience. And it kind of makes the text kind
of sparkle with life as you read it. As I said,
we don't really know who's listening to this.
We trust that some people are listening to this,
but they'll be coming with different backgrounds
to this kind of question of biblical languages.
What are maybe some of the... the common misconceptions
you've come across when people are thinking about
biblical languages and the study of them and
the point of them and why do we do that today?
Yeah, I guess there are probably four things
that come to mind that I suppose are related.
One is it's like maybe there's just too much
time investment before you start to see fruit.
And is it worth taking that time to invest, to
learn, to memorize all these paradigms and vocab
and all that kind of stuff? One is... can you
ever actually get proficient? Like, is it impossible
to reach that point? Another is, well, there's
so many good translations, good resources these
days, so do you need it? And then finally, some
people, it's just a confidence thing. It's, can
I do this? I just don't think I'm good at languages.
I've got a poor memory, that kind of thing. Some
combination of those factors tend to be what
I come across. Let's take this one by one briefly.
So give us that first one again. So the first
one, first misconception. Is that it feels like
it can take a long time before you start to see
any fruit. So persuade me otherwise. Well, the
answer to that and to all of those issues is
kind of yes and no. Because, yeah, it will take
some time. It will take some effort. You won't
be kind of reading, you know, fluently in a day
or even a month or even a year. But actually,
you will start to pick things up quite early
on, particularly if your teacher knows, if you're
studying in a context where you have a teacher
that is, you know, they know that that's why
you want to learn, that you want to read scripture
in the original language. And they'll be trying,
hopefully, to show you the value of it and show
you where it can cash out. And there are ways
often that happens even quite early on in the
study of Greek, in my case. But, you know, it
does take a bit of time. And the question is,
is that time investment worth it? And I would
argue that it is. What was the second misconception
then? One is, well, can you ever actually get
proficient? Yeah. So it's not just the time,
but is it even possible? Is that a question slightly
because we're so far from the time when the original
language was there, so it's just do we know enough
to ever actually truly know? Is it partly that?
Partly that, yeah, and partly just it feels like.
It's just such a long journey that people wonder,
do you ever get to the end of it? And again,
the answer is, well, yes, I know, because it
is a lifelong thing. I anticipate that if the
Lord spares me for another 20 or 30 years, I'll
still be learning and hopefully improving. And
it does take a long time. But actually, that
doesn't mean that you're not growing and increasing
in understanding and finding all sorts of ways
in which it's helpful and encouraging. bearing
fruit in your devotional life, in your ministry,
in all sorts of ways. And you see that with the
people, for example, you've run for a number
of years and you've started up again at Oak Hill
a weekly reading group and you've got a range
of people in that group, don't you? People who
really have seen that and have kept it going
and people who are kind of, I know I need to.
So you're seeing that differences, aren't you?
Yeah, and it is actually really encouraging when
you think about where people start. I think,
you know, you start with no knowledge at all
of the language. Week one, you kind of are learning
a new alphabet. and learning to pronounce words
that are unfamiliar to you. By week two, you're
kind of learning that the language has a whole
system of cases to show how words function, that
verbs encode the person doing the action in the
ending. It's an inflected language. I mean, these
are big things to try and get your head around.
But then you fast forward like a year or two
years, and suddenly actually the things that
stress you out in week one or two. are not stressful
at all and you've come a long way so you know
you know you do make progress and you do learn
things and when you see people in groups like
that reading group um they're at different stages
but you know they're able to read in this this
case we're reading second timothy at the minute
and you know this this group are by and large
able to just read and translate those verses
on spec and then talk about how they fit together
and what they mean and it's really encouraging
you know and so that third misconception was
With modern day technology, digital tools, English
translations, is it still worth the effort to
study in the first hand? That's right. And there
are probably two factors to think about there.
One is that, first of all, you need to know how
to use the tools well. And it's difficult to
do that unless you have some grasp of how the
languages work, what the tools are offering.
And actually, the more you know of the language,
the more you can use the tools. really fruitfully
um so you might have a digital version of a really
big greek lexicon for example a dictionary um
unless you know something of the way the language
works and the way word studies and lexicography
works then you're just going to be looking at
words and picking the one that you know you fits
your sermon prep best or something like that
um you're not really able to adjudicate between
options um so that's just one example things
like um you know study bibles or you know digital
editions that let you kind of hover over words
and get get meanings again you need to know what
does it mean that this word is an aorist rather
than imperfect why is that significant why has
the author chosen that word here you don't get
that just from being able to you know highlight
the word so that's one thing um i said there
were two things i can't not remember what the
second one was but i'm sure it was very important
What was that fourth misconception then? Oh,
just that people think I just can't do languages.
You know, I'm not naturally a linguist. Which
would be interesting because there's a number
of our colleagues here at Oak Hill who teach
languages. I think particularly one of the guys
doing Greek for 20 or so years, our principal
generalist is Hebrew. Both of them would say
they are not natural linguists when you chat
to them. Yeah. And you're now teaching it now.
So it seems that that seems to maybe that's false
humility, but there seems to be a common. A common
thread. Yeah. And I would say that of myself
as well. Like I'm not a natural linguist. I don't
have a very good memory. I have to work hard
at that kind of thing. I mean, maybe that's why
in part we've ended up as teachers because we
understand a little more the kind of grit that
needs to go into it and want to help people who
are in a similar position. And that's often my
answer as well. Like if I can do it, anyone can.
And yeah, it involves some hard work. It involves,
you know, the support of a teacher. And actually...
you know, friends and colleagues around you who
can work. We encourage our first year Greek students
to get a study buddy and they learn things together.
They practice things together. One of the blessings
of being kind of on site in a kind of residential
training context is that you can do that very
easily. And the reason why you couldn't do it
over Zoom or something as well. But yeah, anyone
can do it. And one of the things you can say
to people is, well, you have learned the language.
So it's clear that that is possible for you.
People have different learning styles. I think
we need to be aware of that. Some people learn
more inductively. Some people learn more by kind
of grammar translation and more old -fashioned
sense. And we want to support people where they're
coming from, I guess. What would you say to somebody
who... It's probably more a question for me.
Are they in danger of knowing just enough Greek
or Hebrew to be confident but wrong? Yeah, I
think there are in that... You need to know how
to use the tools responsibly and in a way that
is going to help you understand the text and
also be edifying for, say, a congregation if
you're preaching or a Bible study group if you're
leading. So one is you don't want to give the
impression that you're a kind of all -knowing
guru and, you know, there's an elite class of
people who know the languages. And in a sense,
you don't want, it should be very, very, very
rare that you say anything close to the Greek
says this. in a sermon you want people to have
confidence in the word of god in their language
that they have in front of them um your hard
work at the languages should you know impact
like impact your sermon inform your reading of
the text but not in a way that's going to you
know discourage people in front of you the other
thing is just being careful so if you know a
little bit you can make connections that are
maybe less helpful so one example is that the
greek word for par is dunamis And it's one of
the classic mistakes. Sorry, for power. Yeah.
Sorry, just to translate the Northern Irish accent
for some people there. It's important, yeah.
And one of the mistakes people can make is say,
well, you know, that word is related to the word
dynamite in English. So therefore, when it comes
up in the Greek New Testament, is this the explosive
power of God or something like that? And that's
a kind of word fallacy. It's reading the kind
of what the word means in its... derivation in
our language back into the like yes they're related
but it's wrong to kind of read the idea of dynamite
back into par but it's the sort of thing that's
easily done there's a good book that's it's getting
a bit old now but it's still brilliant and worth
reading called exegetical fallacies by don carson
short book and it highlights a lot of these mistakes
that we can make grammatical fallacies word study
fallacies and many others It's sobering reading
if you're a preacher or a teacher because you
think, gosh, how many of these have I ticked
off? But actually we need to have the humility
to face up to some of these things and then use
tools like the languages carefully. And if you
know just enough to make those mistakes, then
you need to at least know that those mistakes
are a risk, I think. So if you're a man or woman
listening in who teaches in a variety of contexts,
what is a bit of your approach? well enough as
you know very well obviously well enough is that
like you say it should be very rare that you're
standing up in front of the people you're speaking
to saying hey by the way this is what the greek
says but obviously at a key moment in your process
you are doing that and that's that's to get you
towards your understanding isn't it yeah yeah
exactly and it would rarely come through in like
a talk or a sermon or a study unless in some
way you just really need to be transparent and
show you're working to show people why you think
the text is saying what it is so it's it's that's
a kind of tool to be used very cautiously is
to say oh the greek says this because they'll
say well that's what you know just like be rare
to say this translation i actually prefer this
translation if it's not your normal church translation
you've got to be quite careful how you do that
yeah i mean even when you do that you could basically
be saying well i could just choose my personal
preference you know and i could make the bible
say what i kind of prefer it to say rather than
thinking well what what's the best way to kind
of communicate that in a way that people reading
in english will understand so it's why the work
of bible translation is never going to go away
i mean you think english has lots of translations
but english is evolving and also our understanding
of the languages is evolving as well Keep in
some ways persuading the skeptic here. Not skeptics
too hard of a word, but help me see the beauty
here. Is there a particular example you've had
in your own ministry or just your own personal
life where you've gone, there's a passage where
knowing the original language really changed
or deepened your understanding or is maybe one
you do with your students where you kind of,
like you say, you want to get them excited early
doors with this has real tangible benefit. Where
are you? What are some examples of where you're
going? Yeah. I could give one specific example
in the text or maybe two examples in a text and
then just some general, like a general list of
kind of a grab bag of examples. A grab bag, right.
But one, I think I've shared this with you before
in another context, but Colossians 1, 28 and
29, Paul is writing and saying, we proclaim Christ,
kind of warning and teaching everyone. And it's
a great kind of strapline for ministries and
student ministries that I've been part of have
used it in the past. And Paul says, you know,
we kind of are warning everyone, we're teaching
everyone with all wisdom in order that we might
present everyone perfect in Christ. Now, that
translation that I've given is roughly what the
ESV has. It has that word everyone three times.
The NIV tries to slightly smooth it out and says
everyone twice. And those are legitimate translations.
They're good translations, both of them. But
if you look at the text, what it actually says
is kind of more literally or woodenly, every
person. pantheanthropon three times. And Paul
could have just said, like he could have just
said everyone, but he says every person and he
repeats that phrase three times. And I think
you're getting something of Paul's heart there.
Every individual, every individual, we're going
to warn every individual, we're going to teach
every individual, we're going to present every
individual perfect. And you get Paul's pastoral
heart for the individual. And you can say, well,
you know, it's kind of there in the ESV and the
NIV. But it's just slightly obscured. And it's
even just little things like that, when Paul's
heart comes through in choices that he's made,
that I find really encouraging when you see them
like, oh, wow, that's what he means. So things
like that. There are other things like, you know,
the kind of, we've all, I guess, had those doorstep
conversations with Jehovah Witnesses. He'll come
and say, well. They won't bring this up usually.
It's usually me who brings it up. But the idea
that Jesus is not God, but perhaps is divine
in some way or something like that. And they'll
say, well, you know, look at your Bible. In the
Greek, it really says the word was a God in John
1. And if you look at your Greek, theos enho
logos, the word was a God. I mean, that is what
it says kind of literally. But a little bit of
study of Greek grammar and the way the kind of
ordering of words works and the way the article
kind of functions soon shows you that that actually
is how you would say the word was God. And that,
you know, knowing the Greek helps you engage
with those kinds of, I guess, not quite objections,
but challenges that can come. They tend not to
come to my door anymore. I don't know why. Yeah,
so I promised to a couple of specific examples
and then some like a grab bag of general ones.
Yeah, a grab bag of favorites. So, I mean, I
was thinking about this. I mean, there's so many
ways the languages can benefit you that you might
not even realize. One is often in our Bibles,
we'll see little footnotes that have text critical
issues. So some manuscripts say this, some manuscripts
say that. It's very difficult to have any kind
of an opinion on. the validity of those other
readings and what they might mean, unless you
have some grasp of the language and can kind
of look at it yourself. Otherwise, it's just
an interesting footnote. What do I do with that?
Or you might see a big bracketed bit at the end
of Mark's gospel or in the middle of John that
many manuscripts don't have this. What do I do
with that? Yeah, you could read another book
about it, but having the languages will help.
One thing, you miss some of the quirks. There's
a feature called solecism in Greek where a deliberate
grammatical mistake. And often writers in New
Testament will kind of do that kind of thing
to make a point. And so one that I quite like
is in Revelation where John is saying Jesus is
the one who was, who is and is to come. And he
kind of expresses it in a way that is kind of
grammatically incorrect, but it's the most kind
of efficient way of saying. You know, he is the,
he was, he kind of puts an article with a verb
that you just shouldn't really do, a kind of
finite verb. But it gets the point across really
well. And again, our translation will kind of
obscure that and it just kind of brings it to
life. You'll often miss the relationship between
cognate words. So words that are from the same
root. So like words like it for us, righteousness,
righteous, just, justice. Those feel like two
different word groups. But in Greek, they're
the same word group, the same mystery of like
faith and belief. And some translations will
promise that they'll use the same words to translate
the same words. You can see that. But in practice,
they don't deliver. So you have no way of being
certain that that's what's going on unless you
can look at it yourself. So that's another example.
And, you know, just saying wordplay, which...
which, again, is something that kind of brings
the text to life. You think, well, why have they
been so careful here? Why does the writer of
the Hebrews so often alliterate, chooses words
that begin with the same letter or end with the
same letter? It helps you see structure. It helps
you appreciate the kind of care that the authors
have taken and their personalities coming through.
All of which is not to kind of overemphasize
the human author of the text against the divine
author, but actually this is the way in which
God and his sovereignty has worked to bring scripture
together. in this language, in this time for
all of us. As in it's helpful for somebody who's
got a bit of a language background but neither
in Greek or Hebrew. I'm sitting here persuaded
that there's a benefit, there's a help. Maybe
then as we kind of bring ourselves in a little
bit, let's speak to a couple of different audiences.
Let's speak to... Yeah, maybe people like me
who have not done biblical language, who've done
a bit of training, maybe done some theology here
or there, who've not been able to do languages,
haven't had the time to or haven't made the time
to probably. How could we start? I think if you're
listening at this stage, you're hopefully persuaded
that you should do. It would be a benefit of
you if you could find some way to do it. What
is some advice you could give? people who aren't
going to come they're not going to come full
-time to college or something necessarily there
is a tools of the resources which can be really
helpful is there advice you could give on how
you could even just get started yes yeah i mean
there are with with the caveat that i mean there's
there's in some way the best way to do it is
to be set aside for some time studying in a community
that's just the best it's the best way to learn
languages um and with the other caveat that you
don't want it to kind of take you away from just
reading the bible in the form that you have it
already because um you know that that can be
a danger as well um but yeah we in a sense we
live in a kind of golden age of language acquisition
so much work has been done in learning styles
and how people learn languages and how they kind
of grow in knowledge of them like we said already
digital resources um are kind of unparalleled
at the minute and what you will find on kind
of youtube and things like that where you know
there's so much if you if you're curious about
greek and think that it's a sort of terrifying
kind of dead language or something like that
and meaning kind of new testament greek obviously
um there's a great uh youtube channel called
alpha with angela i think and it teaches greek
new testament greek inductively just by kind
of using objects and stories and cartoons and
just you know it would be a very slow way to
learn to read, but I think it makes it a lot
less intimidating if you've never had any experience
with that kind of thing. You think, oh, this
actually was a language that people spoke and
interacted with each other. It's not just a kind
of code to get at words on a page. I think that's
really helpful. But I mean, there are many, many
books you could pick up. There are Greek grammars
that are designed for you to kind of work through.
on your own or with a friend or something like
that there are places you can go the daily dose
of greek um is a great resource that has support
for ongoing reading just reading a verse of greek
a day in a guided way it also has greek instruction
videos and links to various other things so there
are lots of resources out there um yeah there's
almost too many to even think about no it's really
helpful to speak to somebody who knows we'll
make sure we put in the show notes some of those
links just to guide people in some ways like
you say there's i can go to youtube and google
teach you biblical greek and there'll be there'll
be many options and it's hard to know something
will be really good and some of them won't be
yeah where do i start and this person is teaching
with this textbook and should i listen to that
and do i want to do it on my own you know there's
so many options and obviously i'm speaking here
as the director of engagement at theological
college i want to be encouraging people that
if you're passionate about this come and study
with experts and with teachers and with others
that is i think we all kind of we know that is
the best way to learn if that is a circumstance
you can do it in. But speak maybe then to somebody
who's listening in, maybe they're a graduate
here from Oak Hill or from somebody else and
they're listening in, they're feeling, yeah,
okay, I did it for three years, two years, whatever
it is, but I've not managed to keep it going.
How would you... Well, I think you have encouraged
them to keep it going and to pick it back up
again. But is there particular things? Is it
the same things again? Is it daily dose of Greek?
Is it find a reading group with others maybe?
Is there a number of those around? Is it those
kind of things? Yeah, I mean, just getting going
on something is going to be the most useful thing.
Part is overcoming that barrier of maybe a sense
of pride that if I kind of admit how far back
I've come, it's just going to be very difficult
for me to get it going again. And I might have
to show some weakness to someone else, which
we're not very good at typically. But yeah, I
mean, one of the best ways is a reading group
because there's some accountability, there's
relationship, there's, you know, you can sign
up and do it with other people. The Daily Dosa
Greek I've mentioned, you can just sign up and
they'll send you an email that just has a two
minute video that will give you, you know, a
verse a day. And that's just a little bit of
input that just helps you keep it going. There
are a couple of books of devotions from the Greek
New Testament where you get a verse or a short
passage and there's a... page and a half that's
usually in some way drawn from a grammatical
observation but then makes a kind of devotional
point you could you could pick up one of those
and do that but just getting back into it's like
you could if you're a pastor and you're preaching
or teaching regularly then just make it your
goal whatever sermon you're going to preach just
try and work from you know take your passage
read the first verse in the original language
try to translate it even if it takes you it seems
like an awful long time do the first verse every
every week for a while do the first two verses
and it will get faster over time but you have
to get over that sense of you know this this
is you know i feel like a beginner again i think
you know yeah or it seems inefficient yeah yeah
it feels like a bad use of time initially But
you have to trust that actually the sooner you
get going on it, the more fruit it will bear
longer term. And actually that fruit will probably
come sooner than you think if you get stuck into
it. That's really helpful. Now, you've come into
our, where we record these with a couple of books,
a couple of giant books and small books. Tell
us a bit about those. How can they help us think
this through? I thought I'd bring these because
this is... This is one of the most intimidating
-looking books. That's huge. As in, if you are
not watching on YouTube, and you can watch these
on YouTube, I'm going to say that's the size
of four normal books. It's 1 ,400 pages, roughly.
It's a good doorstop. It's a very good doorstop,
and this is about 100 years old, and this is
a grammar of New Testament Greek, and it's a
pretty advanced one. This is like a reference
grammar. It's not one that you would ever work
through in a class, really. Really, really chunky.
And people think, well, all my worst fears are
confirmed. This is the kind of thing I'm going
to be forced to look at. But the guy who wrote
this also wrote this little book, which is, I
guess, 100 pages, so a lot shorter, called The
Minister and His Greek New Testament. And it's
essentially this Greek grammarian's plea that
people should use and keep their Greek in ministry.
And when I was flicking through it, it amazed
me that most of his arguments and what he's saying,
are not to do with kind of intense academic study.
They're all about preaching and the value of
Greek for preaching and how you want the text
to come alive for people, how you want to understand
it, how rewarding it is for your own devotional
life and for your congregation, for the people
you're ministering among. And you can sort of
think somebody who would write a massive book
like that isn't going to be interested in that
kind of thing, and therefore they're not going
to understand where I'm coming from, but actually
his heart. is um is in you know preaching to
people and teaching people the gospel um and
it i guess it's an encouragement that that's
where we want to be and the languages can help
us to do that they're not like a distraction
from that rightly understood if somebody can
write an intense 1400 page book like that can
keep the main thing the main thing then we should
be able to as well probably the final audience
of i'm predicting might be listening is somebody
who's They're listening to preaching week by
week. They're reading the Bible themselves. Maybe
feeling that languages themselves might not necessarily
be something they're able to do right now, maybe
in the future. But is there a way for ordinary
believers to cultivate this kind of love for
the texture and nuance of scripture, even within
translation? Is there ways you'd recommend that?
Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, just reading
the Bible and thinking carefully about it are
going to be the best ways to do that and paying
attention to the differences in genre, paying
attention to details, taking your time through
the text, reading it slowly and prayerfully and
using resources to help you get into that. All
sorts of resources to help you understand how
to read different genres and think about them.
And it's not long before you see actually how
the languages bear on that. good study bible
and there are many good study bibles out there
you'll soon see in the notes that they'll say
well this you know this word is also found over
here and kind of means this and you'll see connections
and word play all over the place and you'll start
to see actually the richness of scripture in
that sense and it's not you know knowledge of
detail for the sake of knowledge it's not just
so you can kind of have a lot of information
it actually does help you to understand things
and love the text and ultimately love the Lord
more. I mean, that's the goal at the end of the
day. It's not worship of the Bible itself, but
of the Lord Jesus. Great. Just to close, well,
to be fair, if somebody's got this far and they've
listened to us so far, then it should be very
clear. But if you could summarise then that question
right at the start, why is it worth bothering
with biblical languages still? If you could summarise
that, what would be your one sentence plea if
you were speaking to somebody who just kind of
goes, Andrew, come on, it's not really worth
it. Well, ultimately, because the word of God
is worth bothering with, God chose to give us
his word in these languages. We have very good
translations. Translations will always need to
be revised. They'll always be imperfect. And
we want to get as close to the word of God as
we can. James, our principal, describes reading
Hebrew like versus the English like kissing your
bride through a veil. Or, you know, why not take
the veil away, the translation away? If that's
an image that works for you, then great. But,
you know, we want to be in the word of God and
God in his divine sovereignty chose to give us
words in Greek and Hebrew and Aramaic. Wonderful.
Andrew, thanks for sharing your wisdom with us.
As we kind of mentioned there, if you are listening
in and you want to keep your Greek going, we
do have the Greek reading group. We'll find another
time if we fill up on that and try and work out
a way. We have a couple of Hebrew and Greek refresher,
kind of 26 hours of, I think we call them retreats.
They're probably quite intense, 26 hours of Greek
and Hebrew. Yeah, but a lot of fun as well, I
think. Here at Oak Hill, food, time together
with others. We're passionate, as we said, about
biblical language. And if you're thinking about
studying, if you're thinking about future training
for ministry. We're really passionate. We'd love
to talk to you about biblical languages, about
how we teach people. We've talked about teaching
people with different backgrounds and experiences,
those maybe with additional needs, those who
are coming with a lot of experience. We're passionate
about trying to help anybody who wants to understand
and be able to read the biblical languages and
make use of them. So we'd love to talk to you
about that. But that's us for this week. Thanks
for joining us on Deep Roots. Please do, as always,
get in touch. You can get in touch on social
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at oakhill .ac .uk. If you've got any questions,
topics you want us to cover, things you want
us to talk about, any more questions for Andrew,
maybe this has really sparked interest in bigger
questions, deeper questions, we could ask a number
of those as well. But thanks for listening in.
Thanks for joining us. And we'll see you again
soon.