WEBVTT 00:00:03.729 --> 00:00:06.389 Welcome back and thanks for checking out another 00:00:06.389 --> 00:00:09.869 episode of on the jumbotron Thank you all for 00:00:09.869 --> 00:00:12.189 your support thus far and helping us get this 00:00:12.189 --> 00:00:16.769 podcast going Today's guest is Shayne Graham former 00:00:16.769 --> 00:00:19.089 professional football player who was a place 00:00:19.089 --> 00:00:21.550 kicker for 15 seasons in the National Football 00:00:21.550 --> 00:00:24.910 League Get ready to hear stories about mental 00:00:24.910 --> 00:00:27.789 toughness crazy jumbotron game day distractions 00:00:27.789 --> 00:00:32.369 and fun stories about former players on the jumbotron 00:00:32.509 --> 00:00:35.509 is your backstage pass to the world of game day 00:00:35.509 --> 00:00:38.469 entertainment. So, don't forget to share this 00:00:38.469 --> 00:00:40.929 and all our episodes with your friends and colleagues. 00:00:41.469 --> 00:00:44.909 Here's your host, Christopher Lee. Hello and 00:00:44.909 --> 00:00:47.969 welcome and thank you for joining me again on 00:00:47.969 --> 00:00:50.170 the JumboTron. My name is Christopher Lee and 00:00:50.170 --> 00:00:54.310 I'm excited to be with you today. I have a guest 00:00:54.310 --> 00:00:57.829 and a friend today that can give us some insight 00:00:57.829 --> 00:01:01.210 on some questions that I've been wondering. and 00:01:01.210 --> 00:01:03.630 maybe you've been wondering too. We're gonna 00:01:03.630 --> 00:01:05.829 be talking to Shayne Graham. We're gonna bring 00:01:05.829 --> 00:01:09.430 him in right now. Shayne, are you with us? Yes, 00:01:09.450 --> 00:01:13.590 sir. What's up, my friend? How's it going? Glad 00:01:13.590 --> 00:01:17.329 to be here and thank you for having me. So, first 00:01:17.329 --> 00:01:20.090 things first, man. How are you and what's going 00:01:20.090 --> 00:01:23.329 on with you right now? I'm doing well, man. I'm 00:01:23.329 --> 00:01:25.870 living up in Michigan. That's where my wife's 00:01:25.870 --> 00:01:29.609 family's from. And, you know, I run my own business. 00:01:29.609 --> 00:01:33.150 It's kind of a private coaching. So I coach kicking 00:01:33.150 --> 00:01:36.549 and punning, things like that. But I also do 00:01:36.549 --> 00:01:41.510 special teams consulting. It's more or less the 00:01:41.510 --> 00:01:44.829 kicking and the instruction from camps to private 00:01:44.829 --> 00:01:48.650 lessons to, you know, mental performance coaching 00:01:48.650 --> 00:01:52.590 for kickers and punters. But I also enjoy, you 00:01:52.590 --> 00:01:55.390 know, as being a special teams coach after I 00:01:55.390 --> 00:01:58.359 finish playing. dabbling in that and helping 00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:01.980 out with teams when I can that way. But, you 00:02:01.980 --> 00:02:05.239 know, it's working from home. It's having flexibility. 00:02:05.859 --> 00:02:09.159 It's hard to complain about it. And being able 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.680 to build relationships with a lot of kickers, 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:14.840 not only locally to here, but across the country. 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:18.819 Being able to have camps kind of in different 00:02:18.819 --> 00:02:22.259 cities here and there Work private lessons in 00:02:22.259 --> 00:02:25.039 different cities here and there It's cool to 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:27.919 build those relationships and see how players 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.780 develop and grow You know on the field and off 00:02:30.780 --> 00:02:33.560 the field through those relationships. So it's 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.960 something that I enjoy a lot What sort of names 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.379 if you can if you can name drop a little bit 00:02:39.379 --> 00:02:41.960 that have been through your camp? and, or that 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:44.460 you have worked with in the past. Just put some 00:02:44.460 --> 00:02:46.259 punters out there and some kickers out there. 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.259 I mean, I've worked with a lot of guy like, like 00:02:49.259 --> 00:02:51.580 I coached Evan McPherson, the kicker for the 00:02:51.580 --> 00:02:55.099 Bengals when he was at university of Florida, 00:02:55.659 --> 00:03:01.099 uh, worked with quite a few of, uh, you know, 00:03:01.419 --> 00:03:04.680 guys that are in the NFL. Now I don't I don't 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.280 like to take credit for them because their talent 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.199 was there and it's just a matter of fine tuning 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:12.539 and sharpening the edge and mental strength, 00:03:12.780 --> 00:03:15.379 mental toughness that I really like to work with 00:03:15.379 --> 00:03:18.099 with my older guys because a lot of the times 00:03:18.099 --> 00:03:20.800 it's little tiny tweaks and technique and form 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:23.360 and certain things with body positioning. So 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:25.560 I don't like to take credit for certain guys. 00:03:27.500 --> 00:03:29.780 But there's guys that I've mentored. I mean, 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:33.740 I mentor Jake Moody who's in San Francisco and 00:03:33.740 --> 00:03:37.800 fortunately he's injured right now You know quite 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.099 a few of the guys from last year's draft class 00:03:41.099 --> 00:03:44.020 or guys that I had my hands on at one point working 00:03:44.020 --> 00:03:47.699 with film You know every year There's a few guys 00:03:47.699 --> 00:03:49.800 I work with from college that make it into the 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.219 NFL and there's a lot of kids I work with in 00:03:52.219 --> 00:03:54.960 the high school level that make it to the college 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.520 level. One kid that really kind of stood out, 00:03:58.659 --> 00:04:02.159 I'll say, is a kid named Kyle Limmerman, who 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:04.960 was from Dallas, and he is now the kicker for 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:09.020 TCU. He won the job as a true freshman. He actually 00:04:09.020 --> 00:04:11.199 came to Michigan and stayed with me for about 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:16.079 a week. I'd worked with him in Dallas some, and 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.379 there's quite a few others around there, but 00:04:19.379 --> 00:04:22.779 I don't want to... Name some guys and leave some 00:04:22.779 --> 00:04:24.759 guys out and kind of feel like I'm not giving 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:29.899 them they're just you know, no They're just due 00:04:29.899 --> 00:04:32.079 of the attention they should have so I want to 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:35.199 be careful when I do that But also I don't like 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.879 thinking that I'm taking credit for someone else's 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:41.319 success either. I got you man I got you the the 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:43.420 people that have worked with you know that they 00:04:43.420 --> 00:04:47.290 have worked with you exactly What you did in 00:04:47.290 --> 00:04:49.949 the league and the things that you've done with, 00:04:49.949 --> 00:04:51.529 you know, the different teams that you played 00:04:51.529 --> 00:04:54.290 for and all the accolades and things that you 00:04:54.290 --> 00:04:55.910 have being on the Pro Bowl and stuff like that. 00:04:55.949 --> 00:04:58.610 I mean, that's that's that's honors right there, 00:04:58.610 --> 00:05:01.189 bro. I mean, you did some some some phenomenal 00:05:01.189 --> 00:05:03.790 stuff. You know, this show is about being on 00:05:03.790 --> 00:05:06.230 the jumbotron. And, you know, when you're in 00:05:06.230 --> 00:05:09.589 front of the cameras on you and it's a high pressure 00:05:09.589 --> 00:05:13.430 kick and stuff like that, it's all is it all 00:05:13.430 --> 00:05:15.589 mental? I mean, tell me about something like 00:05:15.589 --> 00:05:24.579 that. So the easiest analogy I can make is There's 00:05:24.579 --> 00:05:28.759 a huge difference between by yourself Training 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.779 performing alone when no one's watching when 00:05:31.779 --> 00:05:34.420 there's no repercussions when there's no accountability 00:05:34.420 --> 00:05:39.240 when there's no verification right we can all 00:05:39.790 --> 00:05:42.610 Oh, remember that time I hit that shot from here, 00:05:42.670 --> 00:05:46.069 wherever, or I did this and no one can prove 00:05:46.069 --> 00:05:50.149 it. There's no pressure in that moment because 00:05:50.149 --> 00:05:54.230 there's nothing to lose. There's no risk. So 00:05:54.230 --> 00:05:57.370 when you're a kicker, when you're in high school, 00:05:58.589 --> 00:06:02.490 there's risk involved, but it's not much. It's 00:06:02.490 --> 00:06:06.519 your status at school. in your community. When 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:09.339 you get to college, it's not just the status 00:06:09.339 --> 00:06:13.100 within the school, which by the way can be 10 00:06:13.100 --> 00:06:18.579 to 50 ,000 people. It's your status also in the 00:06:18.579 --> 00:06:21.180 community, but with the alumni base around the 00:06:21.180 --> 00:06:23.300 country. So you're dealing with a little bit 00:06:23.300 --> 00:06:26.899 more. You've got TV exposure. You have the possibility 00:06:26.899 --> 00:06:29.819 that they can recruit someone else to come. take 00:06:29.819 --> 00:06:32.699 your job if you don't do the job correctly. So 00:06:32.699 --> 00:06:37.779 that builds on that. What is the risk of failure, 00:06:37.779 --> 00:06:43.180 right? When you get to the NFL, it even becomes 00:06:43.180 --> 00:06:47.480 exponential because not only is it all the fan 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:50.660 base of a team, your teammates, the coaches, 00:06:50.899 --> 00:06:55.920 but you can get fired like that. And just knowing 00:06:55.920 --> 00:07:00.699 that for a lot of people, They can have all the 00:07:00.699 --> 00:07:03.779 physical ability in the world, but if that physical 00:07:03.779 --> 00:07:07.439 ability can't sustain consistency under duress, 00:07:08.019 --> 00:07:11.379 under stress, when you start thinking about the 00:07:11.379 --> 00:07:14.060 result of what you're doing versus the process 00:07:14.060 --> 00:07:16.759 of what you're doing, that's where the problems 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:19.600 start to come out and that's where people separate. 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:24.339 That's the difference between... Guy that plays 00:07:24.339 --> 00:07:27.199 in the NFL for a year and an Adam Venetary who 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.180 kicks game winners in the Super Bowl is There's 00:07:30.180 --> 00:07:33.160 a mental toughness that comes in where you almost 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.660 say I don't care what happens. I've got nothing 00:07:35.660 --> 00:07:39.399 to lose. I'm just gonna perform and Now you're 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:42.399 at the the mercy of human nature. We're human. 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:45.860 We're not perfect. We might mess up But you know 00:07:45.860 --> 00:07:48.759 what I can live with that because all I can do 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:52.860 is control what I can control. I can't Bring 00:07:52.860 --> 00:07:56.980 anything from the future of that worry into my 00:07:56.980 --> 00:08:00.279 moment because if I do I'm essentially taking 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.060 a machine with well -oiled and perfectly fitting 00:08:03.060 --> 00:08:06.199 gears and Throwing an extra gear in there loose 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.819 and gobbing the whole thing up. So it's it's 00:08:08.819 --> 00:08:12.600 it's a matter of understanding How do I still 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:18.800 perform a task? when I Can't let anything else 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.430 outside that task Create the perception that 00:08:22.430 --> 00:08:25.629 it matters more or less depending on when that 00:08:25.629 --> 00:08:32.769 task happens You just said a whole lot, bro I'm 00:08:32.769 --> 00:08:36.590 trying and I'm trying to I'm trying to center 00:08:36.590 --> 00:08:40.970 in on that. I mean because There's a lot of distractions 00:08:40.970 --> 00:08:44.370 That that happened. I mean you've just mentioned 00:08:44.370 --> 00:08:48.009 You know getting let go getting cut on the team 00:08:48.009 --> 00:08:52.379 from you know you having your body in shape, 00:08:52.899 --> 00:08:56.320 having your mind in shape. I mean, that yeah, 00:08:56.419 --> 00:09:00.879 that's that's a normal thing that you want, but 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:05.840 you're doing it in front of thousands of people, 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.139 some that are cheering for you, some that are 00:09:09.139 --> 00:09:11.960 not cheering for you. When you make it feel go, 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:15.690 yes, yes, yes. When you miss it, feel go. Yes, 00:09:15.730 --> 00:09:20.090 yes, yes. I mean, that's a lot that you are having 00:09:20.090 --> 00:09:24.629 to process. And then from the distance that you 00:09:24.629 --> 00:09:29.610 have to make these these field goals from. It 00:09:29.610 --> 00:09:33.990 may be a game on the line and then having to 00:09:33.990 --> 00:09:37.309 having to deal with all of that, you know, with 00:09:37.309 --> 00:09:40.129 the makes and with the misses. Well, and here's 00:09:40.129 --> 00:09:42.690 an analogy I use, especially when I'm training 00:09:42.690 --> 00:09:45.409 guys and putting them through some of the education 00:09:45.409 --> 00:09:52.009 that I do with them. Task A, task B. OK, think 00:09:52.009 --> 00:09:54.250 of this as I'll just tell you what the first 00:09:54.250 --> 00:09:58.970 task is. An eight inch wide steel beam sitting 00:09:58.970 --> 00:10:03.750 on the pavement. OK, if I say walk across that 00:10:03.750 --> 00:10:09.029 beam, could you do it? Just walk across it. Just 00:10:09.029 --> 00:10:11.549 walk across it's eight inches wide we could probably 00:10:11.549 --> 00:10:13.730 do it if it was half that but eight inches wide 00:10:13.730 --> 00:10:17.509 on a steel beam That's maybe eight inches off 00:10:17.509 --> 00:10:20.110 the ground from the top of it, right? It's laying 00:10:20.110 --> 00:10:22.970 on the concrete If I told you to walk across 00:10:22.970 --> 00:10:25.029 it, you could probably do a cartwheel across 00:10:25.029 --> 00:10:28.370 it and spin around and still Get to the other 00:10:28.370 --> 00:10:31.429 end and laugh about it, right? Right, right Put 00:10:31.429 --> 00:10:36.250 it 100 feet in the air Yeah, so it's an extreme 00:10:36.250 --> 00:10:41.100 example I get that But what changed? Did the 00:10:41.100 --> 00:10:43.720 task change or did the potential result change? 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.860 The result changed. The task is still the same. 00:10:46.899 --> 00:10:49.700 You just want to walk across it. Exactly. It's 00:10:49.700 --> 00:10:51.200 one foot in front of the other, right? There's 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:54.080 a process that you have to do. Well, it's a matter 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.419 of how do I do it without the fear of what the 00:10:57.419 --> 00:11:01.340 potential that hasn't happened yet, the potential 00:11:01.340 --> 00:11:05.200 result. How do I keep the thought of that result 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.820 out and still do the task? And that becomes a 00:11:08.820 --> 00:11:10.860 lot of like, how do you overcome the fear of 00:11:10.860 --> 00:11:15.799 failure type thing? You are, you're smart, bro. 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.820 I was so smart that even though I went to school 00:11:20.820 --> 00:11:23.120 for videography and knowing how to edit and do 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:25.980 all that stuff, that when I had all my film put 00:11:25.980 --> 00:11:28.179 out, so I was wanting to send film out to teams, 00:11:28.500 --> 00:11:30.899 I came to you to help me edit it and put it together. 00:11:36.690 --> 00:11:41.190 And I I enjoyed every moment of it getting you 00:11:41.190 --> 00:11:43.669 get you prepared and stuff like that. I remember 00:11:43.669 --> 00:11:48.330 Being at tech and just seeing you come in I don't 00:11:48.330 --> 00:11:51.210 know if you were on a team then but you coming 00:11:51.210 --> 00:11:56.289 in and practicing weekly Practicing weekly staying 00:11:56.289 --> 00:11:59.149 sharp staying tight staying staying ready pretty 00:11:59.149 --> 00:12:04.009 much How how how do you I mean doing that time 00:12:04.009 --> 00:12:07.110 and You know people say that you are adjourning 00:12:07.110 --> 00:12:08.809 man because you know you hit a lot of different 00:12:08.809 --> 00:12:12.210 teams. How did you keep your mind? Sharp, I mean 00:12:12.210 --> 00:12:15.149 is that with the with the task a task B that 00:12:15.149 --> 00:12:18.309 we just talked about I mean, that's a lot to 00:12:18.309 --> 00:12:23.809 always be be ready for No matter where or when 00:12:23.809 --> 00:12:27.350 I played for a team. My task was always the same 00:12:29.119 --> 00:12:33.240 It was myself, the space between me and a football. 00:12:33.779 --> 00:12:36.639 How do I make sure I'm always the exact distance 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.200 from the ball based on my step off, my measurements, 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:42.500 all the things that I do? How do I create a comfort 00:12:42.500 --> 00:12:46.279 zone through routine to where no matter where 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:51.419 or when or how, whether, anything, I had a protocol 00:12:51.419 --> 00:12:53.879 that I always fell into that it didn't matter. 00:12:54.330 --> 00:12:57.970 where it was. It was just a matter of my task 00:12:57.970 --> 00:13:01.230 is kicking a football. And how do I control all 00:13:01.230 --> 00:13:03.889 the variables within my process to kick the football? 00:13:04.429 --> 00:13:07.730 So I could do that on my own. I could do it with 00:13:07.730 --> 00:13:10.629 the team. So I made sure when I was on my own, 00:13:10.769 --> 00:13:13.610 I was preparing as if I was with the team. I 00:13:13.610 --> 00:13:17.570 know there are video boards and jumbotrons in 00:13:17.570 --> 00:13:20.289 the end zone. When I was working at Tech, we 00:13:20.289 --> 00:13:23.750 purposely put stuff up to distract you guys. 00:13:23.899 --> 00:13:26.840 Up next, Shane shares stories about the game 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.100 day antics of NFL video teams and Jumbotrons. 00:13:36.330 --> 00:13:38.669 Try to look at something besides the scoreboard 00:13:38.669 --> 00:13:40.870 because they're gonna mess with you. I came off 00:13:40.870 --> 00:13:43.490 the field, I'm like, holy crap, what was that? 00:13:43.690 --> 00:13:46.169 Don't go anywhere. 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Just stay in focus? 00:15:07.580 --> 00:15:11.539 Yeah, so so I would know the stadiums before 00:15:11.539 --> 00:15:14.580 I went into a game, whether I had played in that 00:15:14.580 --> 00:15:17.299 stadium or not, I had done research to know exactly 00:15:17.299 --> 00:15:19.820 where everything was, because it's a matter of 00:15:19.820 --> 00:15:22.120 when I visualize the night before games or the 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:25.549 morning before games, I want my mental Visualization 00:15:25.549 --> 00:15:27.950 to be as detailed as possible. So I would look 00:15:27.950 --> 00:15:31.129 up videos pictures everything of these stadiums 00:15:31.129 --> 00:15:34.870 to have a fresh recollection of that mental image 00:15:34.870 --> 00:15:38.509 So I would know is the scoreboard right behind 00:15:38.509 --> 00:15:41.610 the goalpost. Is it above the goalpost? Is it 00:15:41.610 --> 00:15:44.909 offset to the side? Where might it be? So I would 00:15:44.909 --> 00:15:47.549 know okay when I pick my target line at Baltimore 00:15:47.549 --> 00:15:51.110 I'm gonna find a target line below the scoreboard 00:15:51.110 --> 00:15:54.769 because During the field goal at Baltimore. Here's 00:15:54.769 --> 00:15:57.450 what they did at the Ravens Stadium M &T Bank 00:15:57.450 --> 00:16:01.190 or whatever it's called now Big big huge at one 00:16:01.190 --> 00:16:04.870 time the largest job scoreboard video board in 00:16:04.870 --> 00:16:08.710 the country or in the NFL When their team is 00:16:08.710 --> 00:16:15.730 kicking it's black And there's a nice Raven logo 00:16:15.730 --> 00:16:21.350 right in the middle when we're kicking They they 00:16:21.350 --> 00:16:24.750 show a video of a camera shooting right down 00:16:24.750 --> 00:16:27.970 at me from that video board through the goalpost 00:16:27.970 --> 00:16:33.710 on me and it's like full body and then as I'm 00:16:33.710 --> 00:16:37.210 looking up to like Find my target and start taking 00:16:37.210 --> 00:16:41.389 my steps. They zoom in to where the whole jumbotron 00:16:41.389 --> 00:16:46.899 is my eyes Just to try to freak you out And it 00:16:46.899 --> 00:16:49.120 goes from and it goes like a little shaky and 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:53.000 then it just goes All the way in right on my 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:58.159 eyes. So each eyeball is like 30 feet big So 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:00.980 you're looking at yourself my thought my coach 00:17:00.980 --> 00:17:03.679 was like, hey, just be careful they try to look 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:05.900 at something besides the scoreboard because they're 00:17:05.900 --> 00:17:08.700 gonna mess with you and I'm like Okay, sure. 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:12.779 Whatever No, it did. No, I was fortunate. I made 00:17:12.779 --> 00:17:14.880 the kick. It didn't it didn't complete but it 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.359 like I came off the field. I'm like, holy crap. 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.299 What was that? And then other teams will sometimes 00:17:21.299 --> 00:17:25.519 put up videos, you know, they'll do things. You 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:29.400 know, Minnesota is known for they put this like 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:33.019 gopher up on there that like has like them. Like 00:17:33.019 --> 00:17:36.039 the goofy eyes on it or whatever. So so teams 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:39.920 do have that gamesmanship. They've tried to say, 00:17:40.099 --> 00:17:42.440 hey, like, let's let's cut it out with some of 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:46.259 that stuff, but. Even just having moving video 00:17:46.259 --> 00:17:49.059 behind you can be can be slightly distracting 00:17:49.059 --> 00:17:52.059 because you don't have a fixed target So for 00:17:52.059 --> 00:17:55.920 me it was I would pick out a specific letter 00:17:55.920 --> 00:18:00.619 on a sign or a mezzanine number in the tunnel 00:18:00.619 --> 00:18:05.000 of a stadium or a section 103 or some sort of 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.299 a fixed sign is what I would do to stop looking 00:18:08.299 --> 00:18:12.579 at that. But Baltimore is always that one that 00:18:12.579 --> 00:18:16.240 stands out in my memory is they go in and they 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:19.200 zoom in real fast right to your eyeballs. So 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.420 you look at that target. And then you go down 00:18:22.420 --> 00:18:24.940 and look at the ball, and then you just try to 00:18:24.940 --> 00:18:27.079 get the ball to that particular target. Is that 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:30.559 the goal? So for me, like, you ever see how kickers 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:32.500 will, like, they'll stand where they're going 00:18:32.500 --> 00:18:34.619 to kick it, and then they walk backwards, and 00:18:34.619 --> 00:18:37.819 then they walk sideways? So when I walk backwards, 00:18:38.180 --> 00:18:40.900 I'm looking at my target line, and I'm walking 00:18:40.900 --> 00:18:43.500 directly away from my target line so that my 00:18:43.500 --> 00:18:46.240 eyes, the ball on the ground, where it's going 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:49.500 to be, and then beyond that is all one straight 00:18:49.500 --> 00:18:52.950 line. And then I take a 90 degree perpendicular 00:18:52.950 --> 00:18:56.069 sidestep so that no matter where I am on the 00:18:56.069 --> 00:18:58.230 field, I'm always just lined up to a straight 00:18:58.230 --> 00:19:02.569 line. But I like to find something to actually 00:19:02.569 --> 00:19:05.529 use as a reference point. So when I played in 00:19:05.529 --> 00:19:08.250 Cincinnati, it would be like the eye and bud 00:19:08.250 --> 00:19:11.890 light that was on the scoreboard or something, 00:19:12.069 --> 00:19:14.210 right? Like something that's fixed that I can 00:19:14.210 --> 00:19:18.680 focus on. And that gave me points of reference 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.380 so I would know what I was going to look at. 00:19:22.019 --> 00:19:25.339 That's wow. Once you're in your stance, it does 00:19:25.339 --> 00:19:27.960 you no good to really look up at the target because 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:31.779 you've already done your aligning for your consistency 00:19:31.779 --> 00:19:36.940 and detailed correctiveness for your steps. That's 00:19:36.940 --> 00:19:38.920 all done during your alignment. Once you're in 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:41.539 your stance, it's execute go. That's all you're 00:19:41.539 --> 00:19:44.200 thinking. And follow through towards the target 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:47.680 line. Were you taught that or is that? You see 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:50.599 guys doing it in the NFL when you're a kid. So 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:52.619 you kind of figure it out. You're kind of like, 00:19:52.940 --> 00:19:56.960 I teach it to guys. Uh, I see some guys who just 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.220 do it because they see it on TV. They don't know 00:19:59.220 --> 00:20:02.180 exactly the details and they don't do it. So 00:20:02.180 --> 00:20:06.119 I, I love it when I get to teach kids like, Hey, 00:20:06.569 --> 00:20:09.289 have conviction in what you're doing this don't 00:20:09.289 --> 00:20:11.930 just do it because you saw it or don't just do 00:20:11.930 --> 00:20:14.829 it because somebody gave you a really rough explanation 00:20:14.829 --> 00:20:18.849 like believe in every single step of this so 00:20:18.849 --> 00:20:21.390 that you could explain it so when i teach it 00:20:21.390 --> 00:20:24.009 to guys i'm like i want you to walk me through 00:20:24.009 --> 00:20:27.769 this like narrate what you're doing so when they 00:20:27.769 --> 00:20:30.670 they'll go well first i i get my spot and then 00:20:30.670 --> 00:20:33.049 i back up and then i take steps over i'm like 00:20:33.049 --> 00:20:37.500 no first you get your spot Then you square up 00:20:37.500 --> 00:20:40.579 to the target. Then you take your three steps 00:20:40.579 --> 00:20:42.759 as you're looking at your target walking directly 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.380 away. Then you look down at your toe and make 00:20:45.380 --> 00:20:47.960 sure your line is straight. Then you square your 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:50.359 body back up so you can get a perfect 90 degree 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:53.650 angle when you walk over. Then you set your feet 00:20:53.650 --> 00:20:56.430 a certain way then you set your body position 00:20:56.430 --> 00:20:59.529 in a certain way now you breathe now You're relaxed 00:20:59.529 --> 00:21:01.690 now. You just think go when the ball snapped. 00:21:01.910 --> 00:21:05.230 So there's I want them to have conviction versus 00:21:05.230 --> 00:21:07.509 I don't know I just do it because I always have 00:21:07.509 --> 00:21:10.630 that's just what I saw somebody do like no Do 00:21:10.630 --> 00:21:13.910 it be able to explain it but believe in it have 00:21:13.910 --> 00:21:16.430 conviction in it because if not, you're just 00:21:16.430 --> 00:21:19.859 you're just going through the motions And then 00:21:19.859 --> 00:21:23.299 the head coach calls a timeout and then you have 00:21:23.299 --> 00:21:25.920 to do it all over again. You just reset your, 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:29.079 your process and it doesn't, your routine and 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:33.500 it doesn't create, uh, any lack of comfort because 00:21:33.500 --> 00:21:35.440 you just fall right back into your comfort zone. 00:21:36.299 --> 00:21:40.380 So you mentioned, uh, Baltimore was distracting. 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:45.119 Are there any other jumbotrons that, you know, 00:21:45.259 --> 00:21:49.539 got in your way throughout your career? I won't 00:21:49.539 --> 00:21:53.160 say got in the way, you know, it's funny when 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:58.099 I was in college Only when we played in NFL stadiums 00:21:58.099 --> 00:22:02.640 did we truly have like video boards Because you 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:06.160 know, we have the light bulb scrolling Whatever 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:09.240 you want to call that like side of the highway 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:15.099 light bulb You know Tight scoreboard we didn't 00:22:15.099 --> 00:22:19.380 have video board back then so In the NFL, we 00:22:19.380 --> 00:22:21.500 played college, you know, we'd play some college 00:22:21.500 --> 00:22:23.359 games in NFL stadiums, whether it would be a 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:26.119 bowl game or something. So that was like the 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.359 first exposure to video boards, but they were 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:32.240 smaller back then and usually kind of in the 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.900 corners. So that was the first time we really 00:22:34.900 --> 00:22:37.220 like, hey, if the sidelines are kind of crowded, 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:39.019 it's hard to see the field. That was the first 00:22:39.019 --> 00:22:42.559 time we could like watch the game. Looking at 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:44.980 the field this way. But watching the game on 00:22:44.980 --> 00:22:47.799 the video board like this to see if we got the 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:50.539 first down or whatever. So now that you're you're 00:22:50.539 --> 00:22:54.359 training kickers and stuff like that and the 00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:58.400 boards are here, how do you train them? I mean, 00:22:58.420 --> 00:23:01.140 I'm pretty sure there's not a board where you 00:23:01.140 --> 00:23:04.039 train or maybe there is. Are you how is all of 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:08.759 that affecting them now? You know, with the high 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:12.849 school guys, it's not a big issue. There are 00:23:12.849 --> 00:23:16.190 some high schools that do have video boards now 00:23:16.190 --> 00:23:19.210 now we're not talking high schools like in Allen, 00:23:19.690 --> 00:23:24.250 Texas or The the crazy 20 ,000 seat with luxury 00:23:24.250 --> 00:23:27.289 boxes and video boards all over the place not 00:23:27.289 --> 00:23:30.190 quite like that But but you'll see a school with 00:23:30.190 --> 00:23:32.490 a nice state in maybe holds a couple thousand 00:23:32.490 --> 00:23:37.970 a big video board Then they're really cool I've 00:23:37.970 --> 00:23:41.200 really only I've never had to deal with it being 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.700 right behind the goal post when I work with guys 00:23:43.700 --> 00:23:46.700 But I usually tell them hey if there's an area 00:23:46.700 --> 00:23:51.220 on that board that has fixed print Whether it's 00:23:51.220 --> 00:23:55.579 a local business sponsorship or you know You 00:23:55.579 --> 00:23:58.440 know such -and -such high school athletics or 00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:02.019 whatever on that scoreboard Pick the stationary 00:24:02.019 --> 00:24:05.180 targets and don't look at the video is what I 00:24:05.180 --> 00:24:07.259 tell guys and when I work with guys in college 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.720 I always tell them, find a stationary target, 00:24:11.259 --> 00:24:14.180 don't look at the video board, because it literally 00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:16.440 is doing nothing. Even if they're up there kissing 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:18.960 your tail, saying you're the greatest in the 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.000 world, don't watch it when you're kicking. Wait 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:23.640 till you go back to the sideline, then you can 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.799 look up at the replay. But don't get fixed on 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.140 the video when you're on the field to do your 00:24:29.140 --> 00:24:33.339 task. What's going on? Yeah, because especially 00:24:33.339 --> 00:24:36.220 in the NFL it's it's live right like they're 00:24:36.220 --> 00:24:38.420 showing video as it's happening another might 00:24:38.420 --> 00:24:41.900 be a Half -second delay on that. I don't know 00:24:41.900 --> 00:24:45.200 exactly what the the generational loss or whatever 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:49.599 the feed. I'm not sure but Definitely watching 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:51.599 it because it's just easier to see the overhead 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.220 camera view To see the if there was a penalty 00:24:55.220 --> 00:24:58.559 and to see like whatever it is. You're watching 00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:00.960 You're look you're either looking at field level 00:25:01.790 --> 00:25:05.190 and you're seeing a great view, but when you're 00:25:05.190 --> 00:25:07.170 sitting behind the team and you're not getting 00:25:07.170 --> 00:25:10.049 ready to be subbed in for the game, you're probably 00:25:10.049 --> 00:25:13.289 watching the Jumbotron, and that's most all guys. 00:25:13.710 --> 00:25:17.809 Really? Yeah, if you're not actively in the substitution 00:25:17.809 --> 00:25:20.710 line... The guys getting ready to go in and out 00:25:20.710 --> 00:25:24.190 or if you're not meeting with your coach during 00:25:24.190 --> 00:25:26.789 Change of possession like the defense will go 00:25:26.789 --> 00:25:29.190 meet with their coaches As soon as they come 00:25:29.190 --> 00:25:31.630 off the field to go over corrections or go over 00:25:31.630 --> 00:25:34.509 things. They did right whatever same with offense 00:25:34.509 --> 00:25:38.700 Once you're out of that Especially as a specialist 00:25:38.700 --> 00:25:41.079 like we don't have coaches who meet with us during 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.140 the game So we come off the field we're gonna 00:25:44.140 --> 00:25:46.319 try and stay out of the way of all the guys that 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.779 are going through Substitutions when we're not 00:25:48.779 --> 00:25:52.420 in the net kicking, right? We usually all watch 00:25:52.420 --> 00:25:55.259 the Jumbotron most most all of it just because 00:25:55.259 --> 00:25:58.779 it's a much clearer view of what's going on now 00:25:58.779 --> 00:26:03.079 You can talk about how some of these new stadiums 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.529 have developed these halo systems and 360s uh 00:26:07.529 --> 00:26:12.450 the one that I loved and hated at the same time 00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:20.210 was Dallas because if you're gonna watch that 00:26:20.210 --> 00:26:22.609 video during the game your neck is gonna hurt 00:26:22.609 --> 00:26:27.109 because you're like this yeah I've been to Dallas 00:26:27.109 --> 00:26:30.349 it hurts yeah your neck hurts my neck hurts just 00:26:30.349 --> 00:26:34.369 doing it for five seconds You get on the plane 00:26:34.369 --> 00:26:37.130 after a game at least me and even the coach because 00:26:37.130 --> 00:26:39.390 the coaches look up at the replays a lot right 00:26:39.390 --> 00:26:42.430 because they want to see like if they saw that 00:26:42.430 --> 00:26:44.710 their players had the right assignment or if 00:26:44.710 --> 00:26:47.549 somebody screwed up or Or whatever typically 00:26:47.549 --> 00:26:50.309 when things go bad coaches look up at the Jumbotron 00:26:50.309 --> 00:26:52.549 when things go good They're celebrating there 00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:54.829 with the team, but when things go bad They look 00:26:54.829 --> 00:26:57.049 up and want to see so they can try to diagnose 00:26:57.049 --> 00:26:59.650 as fast as they can because they're usually gonna 00:26:59.650 --> 00:27:02.940 show a replay Dallas, oh man, it's so, cause 00:27:02.940 --> 00:27:05.500 it's literally, you have to look straight up. 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.079 And then you have to like actually turn your 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.819 head to go from one side, cause it's almost field 00:27:10.819 --> 00:27:13.539 length, right? Like it's huge. And then now you've 00:27:13.539 --> 00:27:18.420 got these really cool ones like at Atlanta. LA, 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:20.839 you know, some of these new places where you 00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:24.180 just look across the field, almost eye level, 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:26.519 just a little up. You don't have to do that. 00:27:26.619 --> 00:27:29.339 And you have literally a perfect view all the 00:27:29.339 --> 00:27:32.339 way around like a halo. So no matter where you 00:27:32.339 --> 00:27:34.039 at, you just look straight and you can see it. 00:27:34.180 --> 00:27:37.359 That one's pretty cool. Atlanta's cool, but it 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.420 only shows the inside because it's so high. It 00:27:41.420 --> 00:27:43.480 doesn't do any good to have it. It's just you 00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:45.599 look up from not where you're looking. You can 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.660 see it. But the one in LA is really cool because 00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:51.119 it kind of hangs down a little lower, but you 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:54.119 can see it from both sides. So the one in LA 00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:58.059 is almost like double -sided tape. It is essentially 00:27:58.059 --> 00:28:04.200 like double -sided LED video board tape. We just 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.299 coined a phrase. Okay, so you're at the game. 00:28:07.500 --> 00:28:10.119 What is the funniest type feature that you've 00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:12.180 seen during the game where you're supposed to 00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:14.970 be locked in and focused? What's the funniest 00:28:14.970 --> 00:28:17.470 one you've seen and where was that I don't know 00:28:17.470 --> 00:28:23.430 about feature But the funniest situation I ever 00:28:23.430 --> 00:28:27.049 remember on the jumbotron was I'm in Cincinnati. 00:28:27.230 --> 00:28:32.009 We're playing Buffalo. I Had never given up a 00:28:32.009 --> 00:28:34.490 kickoff return for a touchdown my whole career 00:28:34.490 --> 00:28:38.690 and I remember we scored we're about to kick 00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:42.430 off. They're showing fans celebrating and the 00:28:42.430 --> 00:28:45.190 I look up as I'm putting the ball on the tee, 00:28:45.569 --> 00:28:48.589 and I look up and it was like my girlfriend at 00:28:48.589 --> 00:28:51.269 the time wearing my jersey, and it was like zoomed 00:28:51.269 --> 00:28:55.849 in on her. And it was just like, what? Okay, 00:28:55.970 --> 00:28:57.250 I don't know if anybody else noticed that or 00:28:57.250 --> 00:28:59.630 not. You know, I did. And then I hit it into 00:28:59.630 --> 00:29:04.710 the end zone, three yards deep. Everybody gets 00:29:04.710 --> 00:29:07.430 blocked, including me. Touchdown, first touchdown. 00:29:07.589 --> 00:29:11.509 So I remember that like, man. That was the weirdest 00:29:11.509 --> 00:29:14.329 thing ever. But luckily it was a good kick. It 00:29:14.329 --> 00:29:18.089 ain't like a distract me from having a good Execution, 00:29:18.190 --> 00:29:22.390 but it was just like the the irony of that was 00:29:22.390 --> 00:29:26.029 was funny Other than that, you know, it's uh, 00:29:26.710 --> 00:29:29.190 you know players sometimes get called up in the 00:29:29.190 --> 00:29:33.450 whole like What's the the cup game? You know 00:29:33.450 --> 00:29:36.470 where they have like the helmet slide around 00:29:36.470 --> 00:29:40.619 or they do like the the mascot digital animation 00:29:40.619 --> 00:29:43.640 race or something like every now and then during 00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.880 timeouts players get caught up in that like watching 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.299 it not a lot typically not the guys that are 00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:53.299 locked into the game but you'll get some subs 00:29:53.299 --> 00:29:55.400 over there that are that are like oh it's two 00:29:55.400 --> 00:30:00.220 it's two it's two oh it was two and it's like 00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:03.599 yeah i guess Yeah, you're not playing this game 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.279 so Even though you guys are like, you know locked 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.960 in got the uniforms on and stuff like that You 00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:12.859 enjoy the content and things that are going on 00:30:12.859 --> 00:30:17.819 too. Oh Absolutely the but between the you know, 00:30:17.819 --> 00:30:21.839 the video boards The music the way everything 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:26.539 works together it it plays a lot into the atmosphere 00:30:26.539 --> 00:30:31.640 of the game I mean You know, I mean no disrespect 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:35.920 to Michigan State, but when I coached there I 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.359 Felt like they lost the crowd so many times during 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:44.579 the game because They're they're like go to staple 00:30:44.579 --> 00:30:47.759 protocol when something good happened was to 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.359 immediately Turn everything off and start playing 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.960 the fight song And it's like to me the fight 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.960 song should be reserved for like I don't know, 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.680 right after a touchdown, when everyone's already 00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.500 gone crazy, hoopla, crazy crowd, and it starts 00:31:04.500 --> 00:31:07.339 to get quiet, then you start playing the fight 00:31:07.339 --> 00:31:13.740 song, right? But not in the height of the cheering, 00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:15.559 because then it just turns into everyone going. 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.519 I can see it. And I'm like, man, they don't really 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.119 get hype in here. And then we play Penn State. 00:31:25.970 --> 00:31:29.750 And I'm like, holy crap, this is different. They 00:31:29.750 --> 00:31:33.470 got a DJ. They got the crowd, like, when they 00:31:33.470 --> 00:31:36.710 do their whiteout, everybody's pom -pom is going 00:31:36.710 --> 00:31:39.250 at the exact same time in the same direction. 00:31:39.630 --> 00:31:42.890 The music's bumping. The video board's got something 00:31:42.890 --> 00:31:47.329 hype going the whole time. And, you know, whether 00:31:47.329 --> 00:31:49.849 it's, you know, it's a little cheesy sometimes 00:31:49.849 --> 00:31:51.750 when you have the player that comes up and is 00:31:51.750 --> 00:31:55.299 like, You know, like I think that's a little 00:31:55.299 --> 00:31:59.400 cheesy but there are stadiums that like really 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:05.579 had really cool like Not only traditions but 00:32:05.579 --> 00:32:10.319 like like at Baltimore I remember Every time 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.599 they got a first down they had this video that 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.460 literally as soon as it happened it was like 00:32:15.460 --> 00:32:20.700 a three -frame montage of a football the chain 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.519 Then Jonathan Ogden going first down and it was 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:29.539 like First down and everyone in the crowd would 00:32:29.539 --> 00:32:34.619 scream it Pittsburgh Pittsburgh at the end of 00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:37.039 the third quarter or at some point during the 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:41.940 fourth quarter. They had their sticks And they 00:32:41.940 --> 00:32:45.599 had this really cool montage And it would be 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.759 like all these like slow motion highlights and 00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.180 like kind of a dramatic buildup, right? And then 00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:57.519 it was like right before the buildup and the 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:07.500 drop. And it was just their defense just crushing 00:33:07.500 --> 00:33:11.299 people. And it was like, that's a huge tradition. 00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:17.319 If you just Google. or YouTube, Pittsburgh Sticks. 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.220 And then you see like, I forget the exact name 00:33:20.220 --> 00:33:21.819 of the saw, I don't know why it's blanking on 00:33:21.819 --> 00:33:25.599 me right now, but it's this really cool thing 00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.440 that they have in the fourth quarter, especially 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.059 if it's like a dramatic moment in the game where 00:33:31.059 --> 00:33:34.980 they need a stop or something like that. And 00:33:34.980 --> 00:33:39.119 it's really cool how that was done for the first 00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:43.720 time maybe, or how that was done. as a tradition. 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:50.319 I mean, I look back to 1999, I don't know if 00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.539 we had the jump. I don't think we did. But in 00:33:53.539 --> 00:33:58.440 2000, I remember going to a game. I had just 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:01.619 got cut, so I was home. I was not on an NFL team. 00:34:01.980 --> 00:34:04.259 And we were about to play Georgia Tech, first 00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:06.900 game of the year, like the kickoff classic. That 00:34:06.900 --> 00:34:09.679 was the lightning game, literally happened right 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.780 before the game started. We were actually on 00:34:11.780 --> 00:34:13.619 the field to kick off. That was the game that 00:34:13.619 --> 00:34:15.619 Corso's car got hit, right? Struck by lightning? 00:34:16.340 --> 00:34:21.739 Yeah. So that game, that's when they did Inner 00:34:21.739 --> 00:34:26.860 Sandman for the first time. So the video is like, 00:34:26.980 --> 00:34:30.119 because I saw that video for the first time again, 00:34:30.699 --> 00:34:34.630 years later. because they honored the 99 team. 00:34:34.710 --> 00:34:37.530 So it was a lot of the guys from that era. They 00:34:37.530 --> 00:34:40.550 were showing that video. And even though we didn't 00:34:40.550 --> 00:34:42.849 do that when I was there, it was the very next 00:34:42.849 --> 00:34:44.969 year where there were a lot of those guys. And 00:34:44.969 --> 00:34:46.989 I'm like, man, I know every single person. And 00:34:46.989 --> 00:34:49.130 it was like a locker room montage, you know, 00:34:49.230 --> 00:34:51.949 somebody putting their helmet on, somebody putting 00:34:51.949 --> 00:34:54.369 their eye block on, you know, pulling their glove 00:34:54.369 --> 00:34:57.610 over whatever, you know, tying their shoe. And 00:34:57.610 --> 00:35:00.630 then it was, you know, kind of a dramatic rendition 00:35:00.630 --> 00:35:05.150 of a coach given a Hype speech or guys hitting 00:35:05.150 --> 00:35:06.889 each other on the shoulder pads like you know 00:35:06.889 --> 00:35:09.769 how those packages are put together and I was 00:35:09.769 --> 00:35:11.570 like man that was really cool, but I remember 00:35:11.570 --> 00:35:15.050 watching that for the first time in the bleachers 00:35:15.050 --> 00:35:18.750 as a non -player and Just thinking like how cool 00:35:18.750 --> 00:35:22.070 it was to have these video pieces put together 00:35:22.070 --> 00:35:27.269 to kind of show and tell a story that Fans never 00:35:27.269 --> 00:35:31.329 get to see fans only see that Locker room access 00:35:31.329 --> 00:35:34.090 in a whole different light because it's always 00:35:34.090 --> 00:35:38.210 filtered and and and changed out But then you 00:35:38.210 --> 00:35:41.369 see one where even though we know it was It was 00:35:41.369 --> 00:35:44.969 acting It was still showing kind of what it was 00:35:44.969 --> 00:35:47.570 like to be in the locker room in that very moment 00:35:47.570 --> 00:35:52.630 Yeah, I remember putting together pieces like 00:35:52.630 --> 00:35:56.010 that and I remember putting something together. 00:35:56.010 --> 00:35:59.519 I think it was with a coach foster at the time 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:03.920 and with coach Beamer at the time and and Feeling 00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:07.659 like man, this is this is so cool that I get 00:36:07.659 --> 00:36:09.960 to put together this feature that it gets to 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.400 show in the stadium that maybe will I don't know 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:18.320 I may help turn the team a little bit if you 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:21.619 know if they're down or or even if they're up, 00:36:21.699 --> 00:36:23.820 you know to keep them motivated and stuff like 00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:27.949 that, I mean it's I understand exactly what you're 00:36:27.949 --> 00:36:31.190 talking about with that tight feeling. Has there 00:36:31.190 --> 00:36:33.909 ever been a video or something like that that 00:36:33.909 --> 00:36:37.110 just got you like stupid hype? I mean, because 00:36:37.110 --> 00:36:39.170 I know you play with the bingles for the longest. 00:36:39.230 --> 00:36:41.250 That was your longest stint. Was there ever a 00:36:41.250 --> 00:36:43.969 video that they did that just like, ah, brick 00:36:43.969 --> 00:36:47.650 wall, let's go. Man, I hate to say this. Oh, 00:36:47.730 --> 00:36:52.230 no. I love my bingles, but man. They used to 00:36:52.230 --> 00:36:54.949 have this video that would come on right before 00:36:54.949 --> 00:36:57.630 kickoff and then right before kickoff they would 00:36:57.630 --> 00:37:00.969 play Welcome to the jungle that was like they're 00:37:00.969 --> 00:37:04.969 you know, like And it would that would be like 00:37:04.969 --> 00:37:11.070 the starting And then they would start the drum 00:37:11.070 --> 00:37:13.469 beat and the guitars and all that and that was 00:37:13.469 --> 00:37:17.619 cool but right before that they played this video 00:37:17.619 --> 00:37:21.360 of like a tiger like walking through the weeds 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:26.099 and and coming into the stadium and it was like 00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:33.320 it was like pre -pixar light wave i don't know 00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.860 if they did it with like a video toaster 4000 00:37:35.860 --> 00:37:39.860 from 1991 i don't know where what technology 00:37:39.860 --> 00:37:46.570 they used for this digital animatronic a video 00:37:46.570 --> 00:37:50.230 that was like, freaking Walt Disney could have 00:37:50.230 --> 00:37:52.269 drawn it in a cartoon better than that. It was 00:37:52.269 --> 00:37:55.309 so bad. Now they've got really cool stuff in 00:37:55.309 --> 00:37:57.309 it. They've done a great job of changing that. 00:37:57.670 --> 00:37:59.670 But I just remember that video, like, we literally 00:37:59.670 --> 00:38:03.070 watched it like, that's the best we can do. That 00:38:03.070 --> 00:38:08.829 reminds me, like, uh, Chicago Bulls. Their, their 00:38:08.829 --> 00:38:11.670 bull, like, running through the city. It was 00:38:11.670 --> 00:38:16.300 like... It was real cheesy back then. But we're 00:38:16.300 --> 00:38:19.980 talking about the 90s. Yeah, was it something 00:38:19.980 --> 00:38:23.420 like that that you're talking about? It was kinda. 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:33.119 It was just such poor detail in the graphic. 00:38:33.739 --> 00:38:37.019 I don't know what type of graphic card they had 00:38:37.019 --> 00:38:41.769 in their program, but it was not much. They also 00:38:41.769 --> 00:38:46.309 had this deal around mid to late 2000s where 00:38:46.309 --> 00:38:50.369 every time they got a first down Remember Bootsy 00:38:50.369 --> 00:38:53.570 Collins? Yeah, so he's from Cincinnati. He's 00:38:53.570 --> 00:38:57.769 a big Bengals fan He he he did these like music 00:38:57.769 --> 00:39:00.590 videos for for the Bengals and they would put 00:39:00.590 --> 00:39:04.469 those up for like the first down It's another 00:39:04.469 --> 00:39:09.320 first down, baby But it would be like what he 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.019 had like a song for that and it was like, oh 00:39:12.019 --> 00:39:14.980 my god It was like move the chains move the chains 00:39:14.980 --> 00:39:17.579 or something. Whatever it was. It was so cheesy 00:39:17.579 --> 00:39:23.900 and I'm like, oh Can you do that voice again 00:39:23.900 --> 00:39:28.699 of Bootsy it's another first down, baby That 00:39:28.699 --> 00:39:31.920 is awesome, man. Let's talk about your your college 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.710 days at Michigan Michigan State And you were 00:39:35.710 --> 00:39:38.230 at Florida, right? I was at Central Michigan, 00:39:38.590 --> 00:39:40.929 then I was at Michigan State, then University 00:39:40.929 --> 00:39:43.630 of Florida. How was the game day production at 00:39:43.630 --> 00:39:47.690 all three of those universities you worked at? 00:39:49.750 --> 00:39:54.150 You know, obviously, budgeting went up with each 00:39:54.150 --> 00:39:59.250 level I was at. So there were budgetary constraints 00:39:59.250 --> 00:40:04.050 at Central Michigan. A good creative mind finds 00:40:04.050 --> 00:40:07.650 his way through that right so so j mac did a 00:40:07.650 --> 00:40:10.530 really good job of still making great videos 00:40:10.530 --> 00:40:13.409 and great things and whether it was an introductory 00:40:13.409 --> 00:40:18.349 or something for the timeout or something for 00:40:18.349 --> 00:40:23.050 honoring a guest of the game you know. You know 00:40:23.050 --> 00:40:26.059 when. They'll honor a former player or honor 00:40:26.059 --> 00:40:29.019 a survivor or something when they do those little 00:40:29.019 --> 00:40:32.739 packages. He did a really good job of that. I 00:40:32.739 --> 00:40:34.840 just think he was limited with staff. He had 00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.579 to do most of it himself, and maybe he had a 00:40:37.579 --> 00:40:41.300 couple student assistants. You get to Michigan 00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:45.159 State, much larger room, much more technology, 00:40:45.659 --> 00:40:51.349 much more people helping out. Things were a little 00:40:51.349 --> 00:40:53.730 better. You know, I went there hung out a good 00:40:53.730 --> 00:40:56.489 bit just because that stuff interested me Got 00:40:56.489 --> 00:41:01.909 to Florida Come even more give me your and you 00:41:01.909 --> 00:41:06.590 can include college teammates your top five teammates, 00:41:06.949 --> 00:41:08.949 hopefully you think you say the right people 00:41:08.949 --> 00:41:12.329 and they don't you know, you Yeah, give me your 00:41:12.329 --> 00:41:16.929 top five that you played with okay. Uh, well 00:41:16.929 --> 00:41:23.269 my top is Uh, are we talking me liking them at 00:41:23.269 --> 00:41:28.630 or, or top five talent? Let's go with both. Okay. 00:41:29.329 --> 00:41:32.530 Talent. I'll say, I mean, Tom Brady, it's hard 00:41:32.530 --> 00:41:37.090 to go against that guy as far as talent. Uh, 00:41:37.190 --> 00:41:40.309 Drew Brees, Chad Johnson was a very, very talented 00:41:40.309 --> 00:41:44.250 receiver. Corey Dillon, one of the better running 00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:49.699 backs, Ricky Williams, um, Eli Manning. Devin 00:41:49.699 --> 00:41:53.539 Hester probably best returner Lots of guys were 00:41:53.539 --> 00:41:57.539 really good Well, then I think about like favorite 00:41:57.539 --> 00:42:00.840 teammates My favorite would be Frosty Rucker. 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.059 He was defensive end for Cincinnati and a couple 00:42:03.059 --> 00:42:05.280 other teams He ended up being the best man of 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:09.519 my wedding. So one of my best friends Mark Ingram 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.199 one of the funniest people you can be around 00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:16.440 just such a dude, man. He's so awesome him and 00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.909 Jordan Cameron. I mean he is Awesome their lockers 00:42:20.909 --> 00:42:22.750 were right beside of mine when I played for the 00:42:22.750 --> 00:42:26.769 Saints and and those dudes are just So cool, 00:42:26.789 --> 00:42:31.170 man, like I can't even tell you how funny supportive 00:42:31.170 --> 00:42:37.349 Like good dudes. They were Zoltan Mesko So he 00:42:37.349 --> 00:42:41.269 was the punter I had when I was in New England 00:42:41.269 --> 00:42:46.099 dude knew like six languages was still young 00:42:46.099 --> 00:42:49.760 and exposed to like younger culture so he could 00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:53.400 kind of bridge that gap a little bit, was from 00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:58.679 Romania. His family fled during the Civil War, 00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.769 came over as immigrants. Made a name for himself 00:43:02.769 --> 00:43:06.170 became a punter at University of Michigan Comes 00:43:06.170 --> 00:43:08.530 and plays in the NFL like you just think about 00:43:08.530 --> 00:43:11.289 like what his life was like like telling stories 00:43:11.289 --> 00:43:13.570 about hiding under the kitchen table So he was 00:43:13.570 --> 00:43:15.670 afraid the roof was gonna explode on him, you 00:43:15.670 --> 00:43:21.809 know, like crazy stories, but also just Top top 00:43:21.809 --> 00:43:28.210 top shelf person Lots of guys, you know, like 00:43:28.210 --> 00:43:30.429 it's so hard to like pin it down But those you 00:43:30.429 --> 00:43:33.449 probably the ones that like truly stand out the 00:43:33.449 --> 00:43:37.150 most So you went to the Pro Bowl? How was the 00:43:37.150 --> 00:43:39.170 Pro Bowl tell me about that? I've never been 00:43:39.170 --> 00:43:42.769 there. I would never go there Yeah, well, I think 00:43:42.769 --> 00:43:45.190 they screwed up the Pro Bowl when when they took 00:43:45.190 --> 00:43:48.150 it The first thing they did is instead of having 00:43:48.150 --> 00:43:50.710 it after the Super Bowl They put it before the 00:43:50.710 --> 00:43:54.389 Super Bowl, right first mistake. Okay first mistake 00:43:54.909 --> 00:43:58.889 It was cool when I was there that the Steelers 00:43:58.889 --> 00:44:01.789 wanted, that wasn't cool, but it was cool that 00:44:01.789 --> 00:44:05.690 when they wanted, they came to practice two days 00:44:05.690 --> 00:44:09.670 late. So it was like a coronation when they walked 00:44:09.670 --> 00:44:12.489 onto the practice field and everyone's like, 00:44:12.510 --> 00:44:14.070 oh, it's about time you're here. And they're 00:44:14.070 --> 00:44:17.010 like, sorry, our parade ran over, you know, like, 00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:19.489 like it was this really cool moment of like, 00:44:19.690 --> 00:44:21.710 man, I hate you, but man, that would be really 00:44:21.710 --> 00:44:26.179 cool. Right, and I just remember like how cool 00:44:26.179 --> 00:44:29.760 that was that they still got to play in it, right? 00:44:30.139 --> 00:44:32.340 and then they screwed the whole thing up when 00:44:32.340 --> 00:44:35.099 they put it during the week before the Super 00:44:35.099 --> 00:44:40.239 Bowl because Nobody people stopped caring about 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.280 it. Mm -hmm and and players didn't want to play 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.159 and The way the teams that went to the Super 00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:48.780 Bowl couldn't go to it couldn't like right, you 00:44:48.780 --> 00:44:55.300 know, so so you take out probably three to seven 00:44:55.300 --> 00:44:59.159 potential guys from the Pro Bowl. So one, you're 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:04.079 taking out probably a couple superstars. You're 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.960 putting so many alternates in and then it just, 00:45:08.579 --> 00:45:10.679 then they screwed up, they took it out of Hawaii. 00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:13.780 And maybe they did this at the same time, I don't 00:45:13.780 --> 00:45:16.639 know. But when they took it out of Hawaii and 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.349 put it in Orlando or Vegas, or wherever that, 00:45:20.489 --> 00:45:22.289 or in the Super Bowl city. I don't even know 00:45:22.289 --> 00:45:27.230 where they put the thing now. To me, it took 00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:32.190 the, this is a prize. This is a reward. It was 00:45:32.190 --> 00:45:35.030 so cool to be able to get away from everything 00:45:35.030 --> 00:45:37.349 and go to Hawaii. I understand that. And that 00:45:37.349 --> 00:45:40.710 was the thing that made it so cool is we're at 00:45:40.710 --> 00:45:44.110 the Ihalani, this big resort, kind of away from 00:45:44.110 --> 00:45:48.860 everything and big resort. Super exclusive as 00:45:48.860 --> 00:45:51.719 far as like if you weren't with the family and 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:55.440 had a credential Fans could not be there like 00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:59.440 it was it was like you could be yourself and 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.699 have fun and cut up and Guys could cuss each 00:46:02.699 --> 00:46:04.739 other across the pool and not have to worry. 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.730 Maybe there were kids there but Then they would 00:46:07.730 --> 00:46:10.650 go over and have Mai Tais at the bar and and 00:46:10.650 --> 00:46:13.250 then the whole thing was like don't let your 00:46:13.250 --> 00:46:15.949 room number get out because if you're a first 00:46:15.949 --> 00:46:18.369 -year Pro Bowl guy they're gonna put all the 00:46:18.369 --> 00:46:20.570 drinks on your room so you never say your room 00:46:20.570 --> 00:46:22.969 number out loud and it was these really cool 00:46:22.969 --> 00:46:26.349 traditions because it was like a vacation away 00:46:26.349 --> 00:46:29.170 from everything and that was your reward was 00:46:29.170 --> 00:46:33.230 this trip to Hawaii on the beach every day beautiful 00:46:33.230 --> 00:46:36.099 weather Playing in the game was fun. That was 00:46:36.099 --> 00:46:38.719 cool. But the whole experience, you got to go 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.800 to an air force base. You got to go shoot machine 00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.760 guns at an army base. You got to visit a hospital. 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.880 You got to visit kids. You got to go do different 00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.179 things there. Now it's in Orlando. It's like, 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:56.000 what are the, what do you do in Orlando? Like, 00:46:56.059 --> 00:46:57.880 yeah, there's probably little things they can 00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.760 do, but you're right in the middle of a city. 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:04.900 You're in Vegas. Everybody knows what goes on 00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:07.880 in Vegas. Like you go to Vegas. It's like the 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:09.420 guys are probably going to go out clubbing all 00:47:09.420 --> 00:47:13.420 the time. The guys are going to go party. There's 00:47:13.420 --> 00:47:17.400 nothing like novelty about it. Hawaii was such 00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.619 a prize and novelty in my opinion that I flew 00:47:22.619 --> 00:47:25.780 my holder and his wife out there. They had gotten 00:47:25.780 --> 00:47:27.659 married the year before, didn't have time for 00:47:27.659 --> 00:47:30.079 a honeymoon. So I said, Hey, your honeymoon's 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.280 on me. You guys go. uh my snapper and his wife 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:38.260 hey you guys are coming too like come on me like 00:47:38.260 --> 00:47:40.639 i couldn't be here without you guys so it was 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.219 like a vacation for those guys and and now it's 00:47:44.219 --> 00:47:47.159 like it's in vegas it's in orlando it's in miami 00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:51.980 it's and it and it's turned into almost like 00:47:51.980 --> 00:47:56.099 uh i don't know like it's just not i couldn't 00:47:56.099 --> 00:47:58.440 even tell you if i watched a single thing about 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.239 the pro bowl on on tv this year I haven't watched 00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:05.199 it in a while. I mean just because It's not that 00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.119 interesting much anymore. I mean, they're not 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.599 really tackling as much I think they play a flag 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.440 football game. Yeah, and then I think they just 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:18.539 do like skills competitions but it's like kick 00:48:18.539 --> 00:48:23.380 -tack -toe or Dodgeball, you know, like when 00:48:23.380 --> 00:48:26.219 I was when I was in it like me and the other 00:48:26.219 --> 00:48:30.719 kicker we played horse with the goalposts It 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.360 was really cool and and then they had like races 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:39.860 and then they had Obstacle courses, but it was 00:48:39.860 --> 00:48:43.519 all like football skill obstacle courses, right 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:47.679 and then you had a bench press contest like everything 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.019 was kind of skill specifically related and There 00:48:52.019 --> 00:48:54.340 was good prize money for winning those they even 00:48:54.340 --> 00:48:56.199 just entering them. You got prize money, but 00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:58.900 you want them you got You got good prize money. 00:48:59.219 --> 00:49:04.019 And now it's like, it'd be fun to do, but I think 00:49:04.019 --> 00:49:08.260 it took away the element of this is like an ultimate, 00:49:08.260 --> 00:49:11.019 ultimate reward as a player. You got a few minutes 00:49:11.019 --> 00:49:14.900 left. Out of all the jersey numbers that you 00:49:14.900 --> 00:49:20.420 wore, what was your favorite number? 17. Over 00:49:20.420 --> 00:49:25.780 there's my... That is dope. An exclusive tour 00:49:25.780 --> 00:49:35.179 here. I love it. Look at all those helmets. That 00:49:35.179 --> 00:49:43.099 is amazing. Yes, sir. Yep, that's Coach Beamer. 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.440 Yeah. Yeah. With Coach Beamer, I mean, I have 00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:50.380 so many stories with Coach Beamer. Yeah. Of him 00:49:50.380 --> 00:49:55.500 just being a friend. Yeah. And I'm on the video 00:49:55.500 --> 00:49:57.500 team. I mean, you were one of his players. Tell 00:49:57.500 --> 00:50:01.829 me a story or two about Coach Beamer. So. So 00:50:01.829 --> 00:50:05.570 it was really cool with coach because like he 00:50:05.570 --> 00:50:07.909 came to my house. He recruited me. He called 00:50:07.909 --> 00:50:11.190 me on the phone. Like that was who I dealt with. 00:50:12.210 --> 00:50:15.469 And, um, you know, that relationship was started 00:50:15.469 --> 00:50:18.489 early. No, I had no intentions of going to Virginia 00:50:18.489 --> 00:50:21.469 Tech at this point, but what he did is he called 00:50:21.469 --> 00:50:25.170 my holder from my high school who was going to 00:50:25.170 --> 00:50:28.980 tech to be an engineer just as a student. And 00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:32.340 he called Caleb and he said, Hey, uh, I know 00:50:32.340 --> 00:50:34.840 you're coming here to be a student, but if Shane 00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.300 comes here to kick, you can hold for him on the 00:50:37.300 --> 00:50:42.360 football team. So that changed everything. And 00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.219 that was one of the major decisions for besides 00:50:45.219 --> 00:50:47.500 coach Beamer being the special teams coach, you 00:50:47.500 --> 00:50:50.119 know, the, the Beamer ball and all that was, 00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:53.260 uh, I don't think that name was monikered yet 00:50:53.260 --> 00:50:56.690 until. maybe even my senior year or year before 00:50:56.690 --> 00:50:59.690 that, maybe my junior year, because we ended 00:50:59.690 --> 00:51:02.849 up blocking so many kicks during our time there. 00:51:02.889 --> 00:51:05.909 It was crazy. And running back kicks and field 00:51:05.909 --> 00:51:11.289 goals, all that stuff. But the way he recruited 00:51:11.289 --> 00:51:13.829 me, so much respect. And then the way he coached 00:51:13.829 --> 00:51:16.929 me, like he was the coach that came over when 00:51:16.929 --> 00:51:20.179 we were an individual. They didn't just throw 00:51:20.179 --> 00:51:22.320 us on the field and say y 'all go just make sure 00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.219 you're ready He would go and put us through like 00:51:25.219 --> 00:51:28.780 charting and and talk to us and and it was really 00:51:28.780 --> 00:51:32.119 cool because like he was our position coach So 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:34.179 I had that relationship with him. It was really 00:51:34.179 --> 00:51:37.260 cool but the thing that stands out the most of 00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:41.139 all of that and our relationship is The day of 00:51:41.139 --> 00:51:44.599 the games the morning of the game we would have 00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:48.099 like Wake up in the morning, we'd have like a 00:51:48.099 --> 00:51:52.260 team breakfast and we had what they called walkthroughs 00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:54.699 where the defensive guys would go out in the 00:51:54.699 --> 00:51:57.340 parking lot and go through plays and just kind 00:51:57.340 --> 00:52:00.019 of in their tennis shoes and sweatpants and stuff. 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:03.559 Offensive guys would go do the same thing. Well, 00:52:03.659 --> 00:52:06.820 Coach Beamer would take us for a walk around 00:52:06.820 --> 00:52:11.380 the neighborhood. So me, the punter, the snapper, 00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.780 the holder, whoever's in our group. We would 00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:17.400 just go for a walk with Coach Beamer every game. 00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:20.599 And it was so cool because we talked about everything 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:28.159 from family, girlfriends, grades, telling stories 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.880 from the summer, telling stories about our childhood, 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:35.360 like listening to him tell stories, all these 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:39.530 cool experiences that You're talking to a guy 00:52:39.530 --> 00:52:43.010 who's talking to you like he's one of you versus 00:52:43.010 --> 00:52:45.849 you know Some coaches have this like larger -than 00:52:45.849 --> 00:52:48.650 -life type when they walk into the room the room 00:52:48.650 --> 00:52:52.570 gets quiet type thing So we got to walk around 00:52:52.570 --> 00:52:56.889 and just have candid conversations About everything 00:52:56.889 --> 00:52:58.809 in every you know anything and everything under 00:52:58.809 --> 00:53:01.809 the Sun with our head coach. So we never had 00:53:01.809 --> 00:53:06.920 to feel like We didn't know him You know, like, 00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.380 hearing him tell stories about Cheryl and Shane 00:53:09.380 --> 00:53:14.019 and Casey and just be able to, like, feel like 00:53:14.019 --> 00:53:18.780 we knew him. But also, when you're performing, 00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.280 you don't have that, oh, he won't be mad at me 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.300 if I screw up because he's cool. It was, no, 00:53:24.300 --> 00:53:27.239 I don't want to let him down. Right. The whole... 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:31.199 And it was a different feeling than, I'm afraid 00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.500 of him. It's, I don't want to let him down. And 00:53:36.500 --> 00:53:39.980 it holds you accountable on a different level 00:53:39.980 --> 00:53:44.780 because now it's like It's a different type of 00:53:44.780 --> 00:53:48.000 internal motivation When you don't want to let 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.380 someone down versus I really hope I don't piss 00:53:51.380 --> 00:53:54.019 them off and let them down You know, so that's 00:53:54.019 --> 00:53:57.260 what made him really cool Yeah, I mean I have 00:53:57.260 --> 00:54:01.519 similar stories with with with coach He loved 00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:05.829 his cookout chocolate shakes man and I remember 00:54:05.829 --> 00:54:09.190 one time, I think Bruce brought him some, brought 00:54:09.190 --> 00:54:13.090 him a chocolate. And I just saw him like just 00:54:13.090 --> 00:54:15.590 eating it and just being so chill. I'm like, 00:54:15.769 --> 00:54:18.250 how is it, Coach? Oh, it's great. It's great. 00:54:19.610 --> 00:54:21.710 I don't know, pals. You might want to get one 00:54:21.710 --> 00:54:24.630 for yourself. Yeah, he wasn't going to share. 00:54:25.010 --> 00:54:28.590 He was not going to share. Man, Coach is just 00:54:28.590 --> 00:54:32.670 awesome. And I remember getting there at Tech 00:54:32.670 --> 00:54:35.559 and thinking, You know, he's a he was already 00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.280 a larger than life coach. Oh, yeah. But thinking 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.679 that, you know, he was he if you see him in the 00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:42.559 hallway, you know, you look down or whatever. 00:54:43.260 --> 00:54:46.800 No, it's how you doing, coach doing great. How 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.539 are you doing, palsy? I mean, it was like it 00:54:48.539 --> 00:54:51.820 was that it was that conversation. Can you imagine 00:54:51.820 --> 00:54:55.940 Nick Saban? So I want to show you what I got 00:54:55.940 --> 00:55:00.739 Coach Beamer for his retirement gift. So. The 00:55:00.739 --> 00:55:03.519 first thing I got him was I was doing this mini 00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:05.940 helmet stuff I'd already been doing that but 00:55:05.940 --> 00:55:08.900 I got him one like the one he wore when he played 00:55:08.900 --> 00:55:13.260 right This one right here. Uh -huh. And then 00:55:13.260 --> 00:55:20.019 I think the last one they wore was This one right 00:55:20.019 --> 00:55:23.719 here was the last one they wore okay, and then 00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:25.599 this is the one that they did for the whole the 00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:29.630 last home game Right 25. Yeah Yep. So this one 00:55:29.630 --> 00:55:32.130 was kind of paying homage to like the 80s when 00:55:32.130 --> 00:55:35.869 he first got there. This one was paying homage 00:55:35.869 --> 00:55:39.349 to the one he wore as a player. Right. So I got 00:55:39.349 --> 00:55:42.150 him like a little like a little clear glass, 00:55:42.150 --> 00:55:45.750 multiple helmet shelf thing. And that was my 00:55:45.750 --> 00:55:48.230 gift to him when he retired. It was just an honor 00:55:48.230 --> 00:55:52.449 and a privilege to be able to be in. in relation 00:55:52.449 --> 00:55:54.710 with coach and stuff like that. Well, you feel 00:55:54.710 --> 00:55:56.730 like you're a part of it, so it is what it is. 00:55:57.090 --> 00:56:00.090 Yeah, yeah. Well, Shane, I thank you for your 00:56:00.090 --> 00:56:03.250 time, man. I thank you for saying yes to being 00:56:03.250 --> 00:56:08.130 on this podcast. The stories that you told, the 00:56:08.130 --> 00:56:11.329 knowledge that you have of the game. You know, 00:56:11.329 --> 00:56:13.769 I didn't take my camera and zoom into your eyes, 00:56:13.869 --> 00:56:16.510 but I can see your eyes and I can tell that you 00:56:16.510 --> 00:56:19.929 love the game of football, man. It's all over 00:56:19.929 --> 00:56:22.860 you. And just like I said, just thank you for 00:56:22.860 --> 00:56:25.000 being on the show. Thank you for your love of 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:28.179 Coach because we love Coach as everybody loves 00:56:28.179 --> 00:56:32.619 Coach Beamer. And is there any other things that 00:56:32.619 --> 00:56:39.300 you want to add? Go Mango. Go Mango. Guys, thank 00:56:39.300 --> 00:56:42.159 you for being here on the Jumbotron and check 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.579 out more episodes. We have a lot more things 00:56:44.579 --> 00:56:47.400 that are going on on the show and we'll talk 00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:50.320 to you later. Have a great one. Bye. Thanks for 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:52.800 watching another episode of On The Jumbotron 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:56.639 Podcast with host Christopher Lee. Make sure 00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:01.099 you like, share and subscribe. Follow us on Instagram 00:57:01.099 --> 00:57:05.699 at On The Jumbotron Podcast. On YouTube, follow 00:57:05.699 --> 00:57:09.139 it On The Jumbotron. 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