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What's up, OTJ family? Thanks for coming back for another On The Jumbletron episode.

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Here's your public service announcement for today. If your lips are dry and cracky, go

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put some chapstick on cause this episode will have you laughing for the next hour plus and

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we aren't going to be sued cause you bleeding.

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Today's guest is B. Dot. You've seen and heard him on MTV's Wild and Out on the radio announcing

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a WSSU and Famu football games and hyping the crowd up at North Carolina Tar Heel basketball

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games and across America. This episode will definitely have you laughing but also learning

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about the business of PA announcing arena hosting and more.

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Let's not wait any longer. Here's your host, Christopher Lee.

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Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome to On The Jumbletron Podcast. Got a special guest

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for you today. He's almost like a brother to me. I think I can say that because he is

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my brother. We are actually related, which is real cool because I've seen this cat grow

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up. He's seen me grow up and he is doing phenomenal, phenomenal things in the business

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of sports, in the business of business, in the business of a lot of different things.

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I'm just so proud of him. I'm not even going to wait. I'm going to bring him in right now.

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B. Dot, what's up bro? What's happening my guy? What's happening

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my brother? Let's do that man. Let's do that. I'm excited.

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I'm excited. Thank you for being on the podcast. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having

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me. For sure. Bro, we go back years. No, like before

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teenagers. Before teenagers. Before like both of us are like fine now. I can say that. Yeah.

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You know, I'm mature and who I am. Yeah. Back on the track. Very on the track. Big glasses.

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I'm talking about not the freshest shoes, like just wanting the world, but just always

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having fun in each other's company, man. Like we always had a good time. Like whether I came

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to your crib, whether it was at church, whether it was on Roy, it didn't matter, man. Like

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we always, from the moment we first met each other, like we always had like a kindred love

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for each other. And it's dope to be here literally 30 years later and still being able to assist

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each other professionally. This is dope. Yeah. I mean, because we were friends at first

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and then our parents became friends. Yeah. That's a whole other podcast. And now we're

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brothers. We're brothers. Give me a high five. Okay. Things happen. Things happen. But you

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know, it's been great. It's been good. And I'm glad you and my life, I'm glad that we

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have a kindred spirit of laughter. Right. We have the kindred spirit of sports. We have

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the kindred spirits of, you know, Carolina basketball. Absolutely. We have a lot of things

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in common. Absolutely. I wanted you to be on a podcast. Typically we interview, you know,

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video professionals and stuff like that, the ones that actually making content for the

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Jumbotron. But as I thought about it, I'm like, your voice comes from the Jumbotron. And you

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were just as part of game day as the person is with the camera, as the football player

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or the basketball player on the court on the field. Your voice resonates throughout the

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entire arena. I'm there to assist for the camera people for the stuff that goes on the

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Jumbotron. Say that again. You did what I'm saying. Like that's one of my innate skill

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sets being able to just be off the cuff and just be with improv and things of that nature.

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So I really exhale when people are up on the Jumbotron and they're dancing and pointing

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everybody's attention to that. And that excites the audience. And then you got everybody.

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So now the camera people really going to work, especially when we've been in spaces like

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the Dean Dome where you got four or five different camera guys and they cut the cameras on with

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dancing and I'll see you and oh, who's going to have dancing? Who knows how to do this

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dancing? And it's just a good time. And the Jumbotron really enhances the experience

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at any sport. Absolutely. When it's done correctly. When it's done correctly. You were right

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about that. But before we get too far, what was your first on mic experience?

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It's interesting, Chris. I just had the revelation because as you know, and your audience will

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now know my mom passed May 5th and my senior year in high school, she didn't let me play

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football. She told me she wanted me to focus on my grades and it really upset me. It upset

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me for years and years. And I was talking to one of my friends recently and I told him

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I was like, man, I still like still be angry. My mom didn't let me play football my senior

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year. She was like, he was like, well, what did you do that year that you didn't play

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football? I said, um, she let me be the manager for the team. So like I got to go to the games

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and stuff and I will be in the press box keeping stats and I'm doing film and stuff like that.

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And in that moment, I had a revelation like, dang, like she introduced me to the press

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box by not letting me play football. And he was like, do you think you would have the

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career you have now if you would have played football your senior year? And absolutely

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not. And for 30 plus years, Chris, I was angry with my mother like weeks before she passed,

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we went and had this beautiful moment at the park and we sitting out at the park having

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smoothies and just having a good, lengthy park over there off East, West market, you

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know what I mean? And we just cool in and I said, my, you know, I never forgave you

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for not letting me play football my senior year. And she said, well, baby, you need to

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let that go because you can't get into heaven with that. And I remember being so mad in

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that moment.

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Like, I'm sorry, I just like it though.

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You scarred me for 30 years and you still won't accept, you still want to apologize.

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And like now in hindsight, like that was my introduction to the press box back in 1997.

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And then I went on to Winston Salem State a couple years later and I was the band announcer,

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one of my good friends, Willie, he was in the band, he played too, but he said, yo, we looking

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for somebody to, you know, to be the announcer during the halftime shows, you think you'll

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be interested. And I said, yeah, yeah. And I did that my freshman year, that's what I

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did for the band. So I would go to games and at the home games, I would just, and I would

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just be entertaining and talk junk about the other bands and just all types of stuff, just

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being me, being ridiculous up there.

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But that was my introduction to actually speaking in the press box for like thousands. And I

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was like, yo, this is super fun. But even at that point, I didn't have any thoughts or

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desires to do PA announcing none of those worlds had collarded.

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That is crazy. And, and now you were as much as far as the team as the coach. I mean, because

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you're, you're, you're, you're not really calling the plays, but you're given play

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by play of things that are going on. You're introducing what's coming up the next. I mean,

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that's wild. And I'm glad that you were, that you were able to come to that, the revelation

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of that and that inspiration of that. And now you, your, your whole, your whole mindset

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is different that she had blessed you in that way. And you did even, you were, you were

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just mad because you didn't get a chance to play.

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Exactly. Like it's my senior year, man. It's the last year in high school. You don't get

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that year back. And I really, really wanted to play football, but it wasn't until she

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passed that I realized she set up the trajectory of my life because I've been able to provide

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for my family off of PA announcing an arena hosting and just entertaining people. And

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that's just a blessing, bro.

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I was talking to this other guy. We did a podcast earlier this season. His name is Cameron Hughes

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and his, he is a professional super fan, meaning he goes to different arenas and they pay him

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to come in to, to dance, to entertain the crowd and different stuff like that. His story

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was almost similar to yours cause he wanted to play basketball and he got cut and no,

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I'm sorry, he didn't even make the team in high school and he was upset because he really

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wanted to make it for his mom and, you know, be proud and stuff like that. And she's spoken

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to him and pretty much said, you need to find a way to still be part of the team. And he

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didn't understand that. He just went on about his life. He went to a game and he's in at

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the game. It was like the energy was so low. The music started playing the DJ plays some

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music. He just gets up and starts dancing, gets up, entertains the crowd, about 10,000

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people looking at him. He sits down. He thinks nothing of it. The next time out, music plays

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again. All the people turn and look at him like, what's she going to do? He gets up,

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he starts dancing again. And he did that by thinking like maybe one or two other times

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throughout that game. The fourth time, the management company of the arena and the team

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came to him and said, hey, can we get your information? We want you to come back the

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next game and just do what you did. You excited the crowd. You made them all happy. Everybody

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started, you know, enjoying the game and you really changed our game day experience. And

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he was like, yeah, so they gave him some tickets to the next six games. And then he started

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doing the same thing. He is now dancing in the NBA finals. The Olympics, the US Open.

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I mean, this cat has been to, I think like five or six different countries, entertaining

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and dancing. And it all started with him dancing, you know, in his living room and his mom

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saying, hey, there's other ways that you can be part of the team. Your story that is exact.

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Now I'm going to go and check that episode out. Like, you know me. So like entertaining

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people and making people laugh is that's what I've always done. So my skills said when it

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comes to PA, like I was fortunate that I did play sports. Well, I was fortunate that I

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did make teams in high school. I never played much, but I never got cut from nothing. Like

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I always worked hard, hard, hard, hard, hard, hard. And I was met a whole earn a helmet

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with some shorts, but I never got to play. But you got, you got, you went to the equipment

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room, you were good. You could dress up.

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Fan favorite in the equipment room, baby. They know me. Hey, I ain't got to give him

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a one shirt, one jersey per season. He ain't gonna get it dirty, baby. I ain't got to clean

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it up. I mean, what's up with what's always what a game and I didn't play the whole game

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and everybody was celebrating. And I would have been celebrated just falling all over

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the ground. Did my jersey dirty just so they would have to watch. Oh my God. It was a rain

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and a game. So everybody was running slide. Did the right. Let me just get dirty. Just

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to get passionate, man. And like playing those sports and understanding the dynamic

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of the game. Like that's what makes me great at PA. Like I know the times that the crowd

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needs to get behind the team and the times when we need to be the 12th man in football

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or the six man in basketball and how the crowd can really change the trajectory of a game.

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But I think those things mixed with my my comedic time and those type things. It just

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separates me in the PA space. And I just really enjoy it, bro. That's like one of my

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favorite. I wear a lot of hats, but doing PA and arena hosting like because you get

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instant results. I was listening to one of y'all. I was listening to your first podcast

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with the guy from Virginia Tech. And he was talking about making it a one day vacation.

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And I love that thought process. You know what I'm saying? Like I remember when I worked

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at 102 Jambs, our boss used to always say, I want this to be like hip hop Disneyland,

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or hip hop Disney world. You know what I mean? Like you wanted to be where you go to Disney

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world. You meet Mickey and Minnie and you just they make you feel like you're the star

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for being there. Like that's what I want to do and provide and the energy I want to deliver

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when I'm doing PA. Like this may be the only game you ever come to. I wanted to be an experience.

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You know what I'm saying? And that's the mindset that a lot of us in this business need to

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have. This may be your first game or your last game. And we need to give all the energy,

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all the excitement, anything that we have ever thought about for this game. We need

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to give it. Bro, one of the biggest compliments you can ever get is I don't have any pictures

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or videos because I couldn't I wouldn't even on my phone like I wouldn't do it so much

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stuff. You know what I'm saying? It's like that is a testament to the greatness of the

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game they experience though. We'll be back to continue this convo after this short break

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Let's get back to the pod with Christopher Lee and B.

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Now, if some players thought about that and people spending their hard earned money to

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come and watch them play, they may get up a little bit more. But as for game day entertainers

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and entertainment providers, that's the mindset that we all have to be in. That this may be

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this person's only time to be at this game and they paid their money to be here. So I

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need to do what I need to do to make it the most memorable moment for them.

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You can do that.

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I'll take that very, very seriously. I'm taking a million pictures. I want to take pictures

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with everybody again. Hip hop Disney world. When you go to Disney world, everybody's got

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their mask on. They taking pictures. They smiling. I want to take a picture with Pluto.

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They been doing it. That's how you have to be. Regardless of where I am, if I'm doing

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PA for Winston-Salem State football, arena hosting for Carolina basketball, it doesn't

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matter. Everybody gets the same attention. Everybody gets the same eye contact. Everybody

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gets the same. Try to make each individual conversation matter.

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Who are your influencers and mentors in PA and hosting?

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It's strange because I never really studied people to do what I do. Whether it's radio

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or arena hosting or PA, it was never like, gosh, I want to do it like those guys. It's

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really a lane that I sort of forged for myself. In this space, I've met and been introduced

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to great PA and arena host Dale down in Uptown Dale in Miami. He does the arena hosting for

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the Miami Heat and a bunch of Miami sports. He's freaking amazing. When I got to Winston-Salem

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State, the voice that was doing PA was Al Roseboro. Al Roseboro is still legendary to

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me. He's a CIOA Hall of Famer. Winston-Salem State Hall of Famer. His sister was one of

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my professors at Winston-Salem State, Maryland Roseboro. Those two names immediately come

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to mind. Will Durham, big, big, big fan of Will Durham. Just knowing that name and the

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history of that name. Then when I finally got a chance to meet him with my ties with

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Josh Graham and Carolina Athletics, just being in his presence, he's such a silly, goofy

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guy that he doesn't even realize how enamored I am to be around him. He just talked junk

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about me and be that this and be that that. I love it so much because it makes me feel

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so welcomed by somebody who I've admired for years. In this space, it's difficult sometimes

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because all you know them is their voice. It's not too many times you know them by face

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and stuff like that. A lot of times when you're hearing people, there are so many people that

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are hearing on radio, sports radio specifically. I argue with them. I have emotions. Then I

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meet Tom, Tom Donahue, and I'm like, hey, I'm a fan of yours. I meet Josh Graham. I'm

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like, hey, I meet Adam Gold. I'm like, yo. It's like, I don't really have people that

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I try to pattern my career after, but I do have a lot of respect for a lot of people

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in this field.

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Rob Markman So, I mean, there's really no way to... Is

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there a way to train for this, to be a PA announcer?

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Tom Donahue It's funny you ask that. I actually have

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a course that I started myself. It's a six-week course and it's titled Who's Hosting? What's

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funny is when I was watching your podcast, the first episode with the VTech guy, I was

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like, yo, I'm going to use some of these episodes for the course because this is... I'm in my

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second one right now and I think I'm going to do it again in the spring, but in the course

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is aspiring PA announcers or arena hosts. But in my first course, I had a female named

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Nikki who DJed. I started introducing to them the concept of game day entertainment and

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how there are so many different roles and so many different components to game day entertainment,

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game day manager or whether you're doing the music with DJ, whether you're a PA and whether

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you're arena hosting. All of those work together because it's a game inside of a game that

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the fans don't nothing about. The fans just think they're just there to watch a basketball

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game and wow, they're getting money and wow, they dance cam and all their kids cam and

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oh, it's so much stuff going on and they leave. They're like, man, the game, we lost about

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20 points and I had the time of my life. How did that happen? That's when you know you

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have won. You know what I'm saying? So teaching them those components was fun and then we

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would watch videos on some weeks and let them do PA over the videos and that type vibe.

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And then I have some, not so many, but I have connections to where I have people that do

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basketball open runs and stuff like that. So we got some in the field experience with

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them going out and doing the PA for the open gym games, your open run games and stuff like

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that. It's a shadow program where you can shadow me in the press box and see how it

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goes down because as you know, when you're outside in the stands, you're just hearing

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what's coming through. It's like the duck. The duck is just up top above the water just

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la la la la la. But in the press box, his freaking going crazy. Tell them to get off

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the field. We're going to get a penalty right now. Tell them we need to read this right

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now. We got two secs like yo, oh my God. And the all y'all side is really crazy with camera

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this camera that camera that room is insane. And all of that has to come together to have

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one great experience for a game day. And that's and as soon as that game is over, it's over.

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You focus on the next one. And that's so crazy. Yeah. So when you say so to answer your question,

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can you train? Yes, you can. You can sign up for my six week course in the spring and

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we can teach you all the things on how to train. But we drop a link. Yeah, yeah, for

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sure. But it's like working on things like enunciation, things like that. Those are things

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you can work on on your own time. But the the most basic thing that I teach in the course

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is when you're doing PA, your job is to let the people know what happened on the field

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period or the court. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. That's your job. Now, if you

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should happen to accent something that happened in the current, well, that's just things that

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you're adding and the more that you can add for that. That's what makes your personality,

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your personality. Now that's different from arena host arena host ain't telling the people

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nothing is going on during the game. All they're focused on is the entertainment and the time

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outbreaks. So they're having to do reads and sponsorships and so on. So that's a totally

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different lane from PA. You know, so like, do you want to be in front of the people

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throwing shirts and I need you to stand up and make some do you want to be that person?

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Or do you know enough about the sport where you can talk about we are the first in 10

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here at the 32. We have a new quarterback. It like which side are you on and that which

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is totally different from play by play on the radio color commentator. You know, so

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many different factors to that. But they kind of all work together to because one, you have

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to know the game. You have to understand where you are. You have to know your placement.

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You have to know enough to to be knowledgeable of what you're talking about. That is so key.

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I mean, and you're right. Going back to the to the duck. There are so many things going

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on behind the scenes that fans have no idea the amount of meetings that you have to have

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before you even go the amount of content that you need to have in case of a rain delay,

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the amount of you know, the breaks and everything that you that you go through with marketing

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and marketing has this and you got to get this read in in 15 seconds or this read in

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in 30 seconds because you don't want to step on the media time out. There's so.

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I mean, you know about it. I'm the first horn first horn. Get off the court. Get off

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the court. We need a while. I don't give a get him. It's like, Oh my God. And now, but

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you can't be saying, all right, get out the court. Like you still have to be professional.

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All right. We're just going to get this on the sidelines. Come on over here, guys.

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Exactly. Exactly. Like, for example, not to put a time stamp on this interview, but the

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reason I have my robe on is because my cowboy was one last night and whenever the cowboys

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win is winning robe Monday. But to your point, the rain delay they had last night, can you

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imagine the bro, the headsets were on fire. And I was so impressed because I'm sitting

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there watching all the pregame. I'm like, they are doing a great job of reach. Like,

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talking about the old games again in a different way and like just trying to throw in little

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spots that they did. Well, here's an interview with Mike Thompson that we found in the stash

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from 2006. Like after about whatever they had to take the threat, it was a 90 minute

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rain delay. And the thing is, they plan for that. Now, there are some teams that don't

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plan for that. There are some colleges that don't plan for that. And then you're scrambling.

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And the only thing you will probably see upon the jumbotron is rain delay announcement,

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standing the concourse because of lightning or some other stuff. If it's indoors, I remember

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lights went out at some game. I think it was a was a NBA game or something like that. The

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lights went out and they had to figure out all the lighting and stuff like that. And

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I mean, and then you have to figure out, you know, what we're going to do is a DJ going

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to play here or the DJ not going to play here. We need to get notes to the PA announcers

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so he can let the people know that no, we're not under attack or anything. It's just we're

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trying to figure this out. I mean, there's just so much going on. And the fan is just

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at the game. Yes. And thinking, OK, how can I be entertained? Because we don't want the

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fans at the game looking at this stuff. Right. We want them looking at the video board. We

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want them looking at our cheerleaders. We want them looking at the game day entertainment.

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If there's a drum line, we want the drum line down there entertaining. We want all this

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stuff going on because yours. I mean, to me, this is like a mini jumbotron. You call it

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a mini tron, whatever you want to call it. But we want when we when we when we have the

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people come to the game, we want them focused on what's going on and not just on their phone

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because they're going to be on their phones anytime they want to. But if they are on their

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phones, that means we're not entertaining them. Bro, one of the biggest compliments you can

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ever get is I don't have any pictures or videos because I couldn't I wasn't even on my phone.

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I was doing so much stuff. You know what I'm saying? It's like that is a testament to

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the greatness of the game they experienced. That is so true. Man, you are you do a lot

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of different things. You mentioned that you wear a lot of different hats. Let's just go

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through your your background of different shows and stuff you've been on and movies

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and go for it. People I hate doing this part. But I mean, of course, I did five seasons

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on Wildin Out. And that was freaking amazing. That was my first time on national television.

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That one made mommy very, very proud. I had a mama dot shirt on on television. She really

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loved that. My God, James Davis, he had a show hood adjacent that got me on Comedy Central.

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Walter Latham is a big guy who did the Kings of Comedy tour. And he did a show or he did

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a comedy series in Miami called Comedy After Dark that got me on HBO. I have a podcast

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that's very successful. Third season now we hit 3 million downloads in the first season.

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It's called I didn't know maybe you didn't either where we do Black History Facts in

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February, three to five minute episodes daily in February, season four becoming February

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first. We did a partnership with Nissan last season, which was beautiful. Definitely looking

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forward to doing some more ventures and some collabs with them in the future. And then as

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it pertains to the jumbo trying PA announcing for Winston-Sendlem State football and basketball

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is where I started 20 years ago 2004. Since then I've been blessed and fortunate enough

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to do PA announcing. I did the PA for Chris Paul. He brought a celebrity game to Winston-Sendlem

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State with D Wade, Brian, Mellow, Kyrie, Steph, Rudy Gay, Tristan, all of them was in there.

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Did that at Winston-Sendlem State because I was the PA announced for Winston-Sendlem

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State and Chris Paul and our friends. I got the blessing to do that. That's all on YouTube.

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You can find that had a ball doing that. Let's see, Charlotte Hornets, Arena Host,

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Greensboro Swarm Arena Host and PA announcer. I'm the PA announcer currently for Famu Football.

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And I just enjoyed doing PA announcing and Arena Hosting. Chris does a D1 and a D2 tournament

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in Vegas and Connecticut. This would be the fourth year for that. And I'm the premier

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Arena Host and PA announcer for that. And yeah, man, anytime. I wanted to get the Hornets

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job, man, but they didn't give it to me. I was trying. My guy, Big Pat, Pat was a, when

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you talk about somebody I looked up to, Big Pat was one of those ones. He was a graduate

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of Morgan State and he passed this year. And he was just a good friend of mine, a good dude,

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man. Yeah. I don't know if you knew this now, but I worked with Pat too. Because, you know,

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I did the drums. Dang, yeah. You know, at the arena. It is crazy too, Chris, how many

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times our worlds have done this. Right. Through the years. Like, seriously. Right. That is

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bizarre. Like even you at VTech, like, like, um, Jonathan playing football at VTech, you

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come to work in the Carolina and just missing each other like, that's crazy. Right. The

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best, uh, uh, Pat story I got, uh, cause I was just quizzing him one day. I'm like,

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dude, how do you get your voice to sound so good? He said, I take a shot of this before

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I go on there. I was like, okay, okay. Can I have some?

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And he was so serious about that too. Yeah. Yeah. He's serious. That was awesome though,

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man. I mean, the ultimate professional, professional. Yes. And then down the earth as well. I mean,

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he did, he spoke to everybody came in contact with, he knew your name. He didn't, I mean,

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it was just, and then he was just sitting and chill with you as well. But when it was game

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time, it was game time. Did you, what did you learn from Pat?

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Don't bother. And he, and like when he got the voice when he was on NBA, 2k, like stuff

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like that, that's just legendary stuff. Like his voice will live forever. And like when

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you're doing our line of work, that's, that's the goal. You know what I mean? That's the

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goal. Like to know that I can't wait to see how the Hornets pay tribute to him this season.

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You know, just, you know, by him not being there, like, you know, Pat, but to that point,

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I auditioned for that and didn't get it and was sick. Oh, that's it. Not even, didn't

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even get an audition. They didn't even let me come in and audition. I was the PA announcer

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for the Greensboro Swarm for four seasons. Arena host for three seasons. I thought that

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was me putting in my work. Right. Right. And, but you know what? It's not over yet.

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No, just mean God got something else for him. I ain't tripping. I ain't tripping.

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Yeah. You're going to get in there. I mean, it's, it's, it's not over. What's your most

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memorable call, you know, game, whatever? I think the most, the most memorable game

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would definitely be the one I just referenced, the Chris Paul All-Star game. It was 2010.

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It was a lockout year. And that's when they were doing that traveling, going to different

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gyms and playing. And Chris, I remember Chris and CJ called me, CJ is Chris's brother and

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they were like, yo, we want to bring the, the tour to Winston. And I was like, and I just,

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man, that'll be dope, man. Not thinking they talking. I'm like, man, that'll be dope, man.

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Woo, gosh, the city would love that. They was like, yeah. And I'm just automatically thinking,

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of course he's going to take it to Wake Forest. Like he went to Wake Forest. He was like, yeah,

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man. And you know, we could go to Wake Forest with it, but I think we want to do it at Winston

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Salem State. I said, y'all want to do what? He was like, yeah, man, I think we want to

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take it to Winston Salem State, man. And I was like, and it's only right. You do the

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PA for it.

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They'll knew that.

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Are y'all telling me that y'all are going to breathe the NBA tour to Winston Salem State

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University and I get to do the PA? That's what we telling you, bro, that event is talked

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about to this day. Either you were there or you weren't. Somebody made fake, somebody

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started making fake tickets for people who had real tickets, didn't get to get in. Like

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it was standing room only. Brian threw his shoes in the crowd at the end of the game.

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Like he gave Isaiah his headband. I still have LeBron's headband.

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I bet it's stank. I bet it's stank right now. It's still got the Beijing around the

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back. That's the Beijing. LeBron's going to see this episode and be like, yo, yo, that

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wasn't even funny, bro. That wasn't even funny. What do you, what do you like most about

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your job?

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That no two got no two games are the same.

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Oh, word.

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It's a different experience every single game, every single night, whether it's football

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or basketball, like you can literally play the exact same games during the timeouts and

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it's still going to be a totally different experience every single time. And I just love

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that man. Like I love the, because I'm, I'm not good with monotony. Like monotony, it

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drives me insane. Like just, but so when you have a job, like where you know, you're going

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to do X amount of football games or season or X amount of basketball, there's some monotony

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in that. But there's so much in between that go, that's, that's so off the charts and you

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don't know where it's going to go. That that just totally negates the monotonous part of

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it being games, games, games. So I just love that. I love being able to reinvent the wheel

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every single game. Like it's just fun.

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Right. How do you, how do you stay? Because this is difficult for video professionals.

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Right. You're getting blown out. I mean, the game is just, it's like the other day, what

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70 to the 25, you know, a game in football. How do you stay alert? How do you stay energetic

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to keep the crowd into it in like upside down scores like that?

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A good friend of mine, his name is DP and he does PA for Wednesday, Wednesday football.

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I mean, Wednesday, I'm saying basketball and he's, he's like, he's like my brother.

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You're there. So we joke a lot because the basketball team is doing better than the football

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team right now. So he tells me that, you know, we over here winning in that kind of foolish

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thing. But I tell him that I became a legend at Winston

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Salem State PA because people would have fun at games where we were getting curbs stomped.

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I'm talking about 45, nothing. You come to the game, you know, we're going to lose.

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Right. You still have a good time. You dig what I'm saying? Because in those moments,

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for me, it's about the fan experience. And we all see we get smacked. So as a PA announcer,

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I'll address that. And there's another touchdown for the visitors.

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You ask them to stop. They won't. They just keep on scoring. And everybody's laughing like

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they're feeling that, you know, they're like the visiting team, they're laughing, the home

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team, they're laughing. And it's the reality of the situation. And I've had to say that

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during the game. You are not saying that.

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Oh, I've said that in the game. Oh, I've said that in the game. Absolutely. Absolutely.

386
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:21,280
Because it's like the transparency from the PA position is the most important thing. Like

387
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,760
don't try to be all knowing, like if you don't know what to call, if they out there deliberating

388
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:31,080
and nobody knows what's going on, say that because we're all confused. And don't make

389
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:37,280
me feel stupid for being confused if you're confused too. So I don't mind subjecting myself

390
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,240
to that type of ridicule. Like the refs are still, the ref gave us no signal. They are

391
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:48,200
not really sure what the call is, but I do know it is a Rams first down. So I don't know

392
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:53,200
what it is either. Who cares? First down, like, I'm that type of announcer. Like, and

393
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,760
it's different to a lot of people. You know, like it's not the typical just giving you

394
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,360
the cutting drop. Like the average announcer is not going to say what I just said if a team

395
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,400
is scoring their 49th point on this. But why not? Like that's all we might like, why can't

396
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,680
it be entertaining up here? And then it's like, all right, well, let's chill. Let's make some

397
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,640
the cheerleaders or the band or let's do the wave or making having fun with the announcements.

398
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,360
Now that you know this game is over, the next home game is October 5th. Maybe we'll have

399
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,120
better results. Need you to be there. That type of thing. We was getting our bus kick,

400
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,600
but the PA announcer was fun. He was good. He was good. We won in the PA department.

401
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:39,560
You mentioned the band earlier that there's a clip of Southern playing Southern universally

402
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:47,360
playing and the PA announcer had told them to stop playing. And the band, you know, kicked

403
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:53,760
up again. No, he said, we don't need anybody playing like right now. And then he dropped

404
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:59,440
the band's name Southern. Have you seen that clip? I have not, but I was in it to you.

405
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Please send that to me. Southern was Southern was the visiting team. I think Southern was

406
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,720
the visiting team. Okay. Okay. So the home, so the home announcer is trying to throw some

407
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,200
shape. Oh, here we go. This is, this is what I'm saying. You never tell a band to stop

408
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:21,240
playing, especially Southern. Oh, I know the band cranked his ass. We got to do what? Say

409
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:30,200
less. See, like that was my introduction. Again, like I told you earlier, Chris, like

410
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:37,200
I started with the band. So like they are so petty. Oh, and I absolutely love the petty.

411
00:37:37,200 --> 00:38:04,160
They cranked up, boy. He kicked them all. Southern.

412
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:26,120
He's in the home. Every time to my mom. And then it was bitch.

413
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:43,880
So it takes you back a little bit. I mean, that was a nice note to everything you have

414
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,520
I'm like, two shades, two shades.

415
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,840
I would have just left it there like,

416
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,120
cause you can't really respond to that

417
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,560
cause Southern Band is crazy.

418
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,560
So what sets you apart, man, from other PA announcers

419
00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,960
is your comedy.

420
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,420
I'm just unapologetically me, Chris.

421
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,280
Like for real, for real.

422
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Like I'm just unapologetically me, bro.

423
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600
B.Dot is dropping gems.

424
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,960
So let's rewind the tape with this

425
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,520
in case you missed it replay.

426
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,280
Brought to you by Fun360Cam.

427
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,680
It's an OTG replay.

428
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,480
Brought to you by Fun360Cam.

429
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,440
I'm passionate, man.

430
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,480
And like playing those sports

431
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,240
and understanding the dynamic of the game.

432
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,560
Like that's what makes me great at PA.

433
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,120
Like I know the times that the crowd needs

434
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,280
to get behind the team.

435
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,000
And the times when we need to be the 12th man

436
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,200
in football or the sixth man in basketball.

437
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560
And how the crowd can really change

438
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,080
the trajectory of a game.

439
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:48,080
But I think those things mixed with my comedic time

440
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,960
and those type things,

441
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,480
it just separates me in the PA space.

442
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,960
And I just really enjoy it, bro.

443
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,480
That's like one of my favorite.

444
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,680
I wear a lot of hats, but doing PA and arena hosting,

445
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,440
like, cause you get instant results.

446
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,560
In case you missed it.

447
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,520
Brought to you by Fun360Cam.

448
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,360
Smile, spin, share.

449
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Let's get back to the pod with Christopher Lee

450
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,520
and BDOT.

451
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Being able to be comedic with it helps out.

452
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,120
There was other PA announcers, like you said,

453
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,640
they just get the stats and they just dry.

454
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,240
But you elevate yourself and elevate game day

455
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,160
because of your comedic background.

456
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,120
Has that always been part of you from the very beginning?

457
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,560
Yeah.

458
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,600
That's the only way I know how to operate.

459
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Like in anything I'm doing,

460
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,080
like I'm just unapologetically me, Chris.

461
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,000
Like for real, for real.

462
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,440
Like I'm just unapologetically me, bro.

463
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,920
And the very first time I did PA for Winston-Salem State,

464
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,160
again, our chancellor, then Harold Martin,

465
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,760
who just retired from ANT, he came to me in 2004

466
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,560
and he said, listen, man, I've been to events you've hosted.

467
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,840
I hear you with the band during the games.

468
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,040
And I just, I like the way you were professional.

469
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,800
Like when you're with your students,

470
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,720
you talk a certain way.

471
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:04,760
When you're with the alumni, you talk a certain way.

472
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,840
I like that.

473
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,520
Would you have any interest in doing PA

474
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,080
for the football games?

475
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,320
And I was like, yeah, heck yeah.

476
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,800
So August 2004 is when I had my first game.

477
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,080
And I forget who we played against,

478
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,360
but I still have the article that they wrote up

479
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,800
after the game.

480
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,360
And the guy who wrote the article, his name is John Dale.

481
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,600
And John Dale still writes for the Winston-Salem Journal.

482
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,520
And that is my brother now.

483
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,920
Like I love that dude.

484
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,360
But the first article he wrote about me

485
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,800
was the most embarrassing article

486
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,720
that has ever been written about me.

487
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:38,840
Well, not the most since then.

488
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,960
I've had some pretty embarrassing,

489
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,080
but that was a pretty embarrassing freaking article.

490
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,680
Like I'm talking about the,

491
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,840
because what happened was the AD from the other school,

492
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,080
I wanna say it was Katawa, but I don't wanna quote that.

493
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,080
But the AD from the other school was super pissed,

494
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,960
felt super disrespected by the way I called the game.

495
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,400
And it was my first game, Chris.

496
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,400
So all I knew was to make our side very, very lit

497
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,920
and to not make the other side lit at all.

498
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:08,760
That's all I knew.

499
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,640
And tell us what's going on in the field.

500
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,360
So when we would make a tackle,

501
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,080
it was big tackle, number 23, Chris Bullard.

502
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,600
When they make a tackle, tackle, Brian McLaughlin.

503
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,800
When we score a touchdown, touchdown.

504
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,840
When they score a touchdown, touchdown, zero.

505
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,520
Like, but I wouldn't even say the names on their jerseys.

506
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,640
I would just say their numbers.

507
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Wouldn't even say their names, nothing.

508
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,240
It was like, so this is the most unprofessional PA.

509
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,840
We will never play Winston-Salem State again

510
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,800
as long as that's the PA announcer.

511
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,360
Like I'm talking about drug me through the mud.

512
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,200
Right.

513
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,640
The AD Chico called or brought me in,

514
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,480
it was like, listen, bro, the energy you had, all of that,

515
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,320
keep that, but learn the professional side too.

516
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,200
And if you could merge those two,

517
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,640
bro, you could be very successful in this.

518
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,120
And I'll never forget that conversation with Chico, yo.

519
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,160
And I was like, all right.

520
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,680
And that article and that conversation

521
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,800
motivated me to want to do the right part professionally.

522
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,200
So there said, even though I am gonna have a super lit

523
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,320
and I'm not gonna show y'all no love,

524
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,680
you still won't be able to say that I was unprofessional.

525
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,760
You'll never be able to say that I was unprofessional.

526
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,720
I might not, you might not have liked the way

527
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,040
that I damn had to crowd booing the refs

528
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,920
and booing y'all and all kinds of stuff,

529
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440
but you can't say that I did not keep it professional

530
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,240
as it pertains to the game portion.

531
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:34,640
But now that you're the professional,

532
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,640
you just say the names on the jersey.

533
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,960
Yeah, another number.

534
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,440
Martial six.

535
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,480
I still do the same bland touchdown, though,

536
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,760
like if they score a touchdown, touchdown.

537
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,680
And for us, I go crazy.

538
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,000
Now, touchdown, like it's a touchdown,

539
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,600
like maybe holding the stopwatch to see

540
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,120
how long I can hold touchdown.

541
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,240
I'm at 13 seconds is my longest.

542
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,080
Are you standing up?

543
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,400
Are you sitting down when you do it?

544
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,240
How you doing?

545
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:02,080
Sit down.

546
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,920
Sit down?

547
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Sit down, but always on the edge of my seat type joint.

548
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,040
I'm just all, like I'm locked into the game

549
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,720
and I'm standing up and I'm just,

550
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,480
and in basketball, I'm the same way.

551
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,880
I'm like, if it's a big shot, like I'm locked in the game,

552
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,160
man, like because I love it.

553
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,800
Like I love football.

554
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,920
I love basketball.

555
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,120
Like I don't know if I could be as successful

556
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,560
as a soccer PA, a PA announcer.

557
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,400
You know what I'm saying?

558
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Like there are some, like people would ask me,

559
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,240
would you, we want you to come out and do the baseball games

560
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,440
and we want you to come out and do the tennis matches

561
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,280
and those types of things.

562
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,360
And I'm like, I appreciate the offer,

563
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,280
but like I'm not knowledgeable enough.

564
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,520
I really think a PA announcer, arena host, not so much,

565
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,520
but PA announcer needs to have knowledge of the game,

566
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,800
like extensive knowledge of the game

567
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,920
because you need to know when to control the crowd

568
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,360
to when to, you know what I'm saying?

569
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,320
Like you need to know that this third down is big,

570
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,080
but this third down right here is major.

571
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,360
And I need you, you was loud on that third down,

572
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,520
but I need you, and you need to be able to deliver that.

573
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,160
And under, and like, so those components matter to me.

574
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,160
I mean, it's, it's you're controlling the atmosphere.

575
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,800
You're controlling what's going on.

576
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,040
I mean, I remember you being at Carolina

577
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,440
and just hearing you go off

578
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,280
and the energy in the room was just like, you know,

579
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,280
what did Jordan say?

580
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,880
The ceiling is the roof.

581
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Let's make it happen.

582
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,280
The ceiling is the roof.

583
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,760
The ceiling is the roof.

584
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,360
The ceiling is the roof.

585
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,280
The roof.

586
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,120
The roof.

587
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Thanks, Mike.

588
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,560
Hey, Mike, thanks.

589
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,400
Welcome.

590
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,520
Michael Jordan.

591
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,880
F them kids.

592
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,720
Michael Jordan.

593
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,720
But about my shoes.

594
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:53,720
But about my shoes.

595
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:57,120
But I mean, it's, so what is your,

596
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,520
what is the preparation like, man?

597
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,440
Getting ready for the game.

598
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Wait, let me, before I answer that,

599
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,800
let me just jump back,

600
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,080
cause you were mentioning that inside the Dane Dome.

601
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,240
And those moments were important to me because

602
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,160
I was trying my best to dispel that wine and cheese crowd

603
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,640
moniker that our audience has.

604
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,040
And where I knew that going in,

605
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,960
this is inside the preparation part of it, right?

606
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Cause every job is different.

607
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,280
So going into the Carolina job,

608
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,720
I knew that we had the knock on us.

609
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,040
All you got, all these old alumni down here

610
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,960
around the court, they don't get loud.

611
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,960
They don't make no noise.

612
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,560
They sit back and watch like a movie.

613
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,720
My thought process to that was

614
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:44,720
these alumni were once super passionate fans.

615
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,360
That's the only reason you're gonna buy

616
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,760
forever long tickets forever,

617
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,880
unless you're a passionate fan.

618
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,480
So it's in them to be passionate.

619
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,640
They're just old now.

620
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,760
So they can't be passionate for 40 freaking minutes.

621
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,200
So my job was to find those pockets

622
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,920
where I needed them to get up.

623
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,040
I needed them to make,

624
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,160
they don't have to get up and make noise all the time.

625
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:08,040
That's not necessary.

626
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,720
Sometimes we just swag service.

627
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,200
Sometimes we just laughing at people on the dance cam.

628
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,840
But listen, this is when I need y'all to get up.

629
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,760
This is when the guys need you.

630
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,680
It's not, everybody can cheer when we up 20 points.

631
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,920
We're down eight nothing.

632
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,160
Coach just had to call a timeout and talk to the boys.

633
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,320
That's my job to talk to the crowd at the same time.

634
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,360
This is when we need, I need you up on your feet.

635
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,800
And that's when you start to see,

636
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,480
so it's educating the audience as well.

637
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,760
Like I was, my first game at FAMU

638
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,720
and while they were kicking the kickoff,

639
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,880
like the football team was pointing,

640
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,080
but everybody in the stands were in point.

641
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,400
So I, all right, I need all my rattles.

642
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,240
We're pointing.

643
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:52,440
If you need to know what direction,

644
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,640
look at the football team, we're pointing.

645
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,320
Everybody's pointing.

646
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,640
We're pointing.

647
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,680
And I did that for every kickoff

648
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,800
and every kickoff return.

649
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,160
By the end of the game, everybody's pointing.

650
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,680
They didn't know his way to point, right?

651
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,720
If you need to know, because you gotta understand,

652
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:14,000
every fan ain't knowledgeable to be like,

653
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,080
all right, they're kicking this direction.

654
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,160
So we're, but if we're receiving,

655
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,400
then we need to be pointing this way.

656
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,280
Like, I see the thing is like,

657
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,160
you have to be able to talk to a five year old

658
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,480
and a 55 year old and an 85 year old,

659
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,840
all in the same senses.

660
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,160
You have to be able to do that.

661
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,880
Like, and you can't talk to everybody,

662
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,560
like they're all knowledgeable about it,

663
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,280
what a holding penalty is, or defensive pass and appearance.

664
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,880
You can't.

665
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,560
And that's something else that separates me.

666
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,640
Like I do a lot of educating in the entertainment.

667
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,920
So you don't really realize

668
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,800
that I'm educating you in this moment, but I am.

669
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,960
And I did a podcast for some of the fam you folks.

670
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,480
And it was like, something that's sort of,

671
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,640
we wanted to know, like, during the kickoffs,

672
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,400
we're pointing and we're pointing,

673
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,680
what's the point in that?

674
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Why are you doing that?

675
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Why are we pointing?

676
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,440
And I said, well, no, he was asking me,

677
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,000
why was I telling the crowd to point?

678
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,960
And I'm like, because, bro,

679
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,640
everybody in the building doesn't know to point.

680
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,440
And it's very important that we're all on the same page

681
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,600
from the very beginning of the game.

682
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,160
Like there is not one point in the game

683
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,280
where I want you to feel like you can sit down

684
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,520
and not pay attention to what's going on on the field.

685
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,080
From the opening kickoff, you are involved with this game.

686
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,920
Whether you're pointing in this direction or that direction.

687
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,760
And when you're setting that standard,

688
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,160
then people become accustomed to participating.

689
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,000
If you don't, then they're just gonna do,

690
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,440
they're gonna participate when they want to participate.

691
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,280
But if you're giving them directions

692
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,360
and everybody's doing it, now you feel,

693
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,720
now you look silly as hell

694
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:49,760
if you're not pointing to everybody else's point.

695
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,600
What, you feel cool to point?

696
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,440
You see what I'm saying?

697
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,520
It's that type of vibe.

698
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Like even with jump around,

699
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,160
like people will get mad at me

700
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,600
because I'll be on the mic saying,

701
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,920
everybody jumping, I need everybody jumping.

702
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,280
Why do you feel like you have to say that?

703
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,880
Because if you look around, everybody's not jumping.

704
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,320
They see the students actually jumping,

705
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,160
they're like, man, they're cool over there jumping.

706
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,000
No, everybody should be jumping.

707
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,440
Do you realize how intimidating the Dean Dome could be?

708
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,520
It's the biggest gym in the country, dog,

709
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,640
basketball wise.

710
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,080
And if everybody in there was jumping around,

711
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,800
like no visiting team knows what to do with that.

712
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,960
Right, right.

713
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,400
At Virginia Tech, their inner Santa Man

714
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,400
is their thing for the football team.

715
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,760
And they play for all the other sports,

716
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,760
but 66,000 people are jumping up and down

717
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,880
to inner Santa Man.

718
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,800
It's, what?

719
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,960
It's intimidating.

720
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,800
Yes.

721
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,640
It's intimidating.

722
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,800
Very intimidating.

723
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,680
And you said something that was key, man,

724
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,120
that you got to entertain and know that

725
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,840
a five-year-old's going to be there,

726
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,320
a 25-year-old's going to be there, 55, 85.

727
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,560
And that's the same thing with building content,

728
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,000
like video content.

729
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,120
We have to keep all that in mind.

730
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,280
The video can't go too crazy with all these special effects

731
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,160
because you're going to lose the person who only got one eye.

732
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,800
You can't do a little bit too bad.

733
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,760
You can't do too much.

734
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,600
I mean, not add all this stuff

735
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,800
because you think, you know, they may not understand it,

736
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,280
but you have to be in that mindset

737
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,880
that I have to entertain generations.

738
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,400
Yes, yes.

739
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Musically, entertainment wise, game wise,

740
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,440
jumbotron wise, like all of that has to,

741
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,760
from five to 85.

742
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,400
Five to 85.

743
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,200
Got to know who your audience is.

744
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,760
Now, I ain't trying to plug them,

745
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,680
but I do know that the older generation,

746
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,000
they get up and they get excited about K&W.

747
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,360
They love going to K&W.

748
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,200
They will.

749
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,040
They're K&W's and walkers.

750
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,760
They will definitely hit their K&W's and walkers

751
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,600
pay for them.

752
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,480
Now the church serves with them blouses on them,

753
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,800
them knee socks.

754
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,400
Boy, they are going quick.

755
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,400
And they will get jump,

756
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,080
they will get lit for games, in spurts.

757
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,480
You did, and there will be so many of the older alumni

758
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,480
in those spaces that will come to them and be like,

759
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,640
I really appreciate what you do.

760
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,360
Like, they don't really even understand what it is

761
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,360
that I'm doing and why they're saying that.

762
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,280
But I do.

763
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,680
You're digging them sand because, again, that's the knowledge.

764
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,680
Like, PA, like telling the band to be quiet

765
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,760
when we're on offense so that the offensive line

766
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,040
don't get false start penalties.

767
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,880
Like those are things that the PA needs to be knowledgeable of

768
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,080
and be able to integrate that into the game seamlessly.

769
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,280
Where the fans are like,

770
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,960
it's like Angela on a date with you

771
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,200
or like Carla on a date with me.

772
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,800
They turn their brains off.

773
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:44,640
Women turn their brains off when they're with us.

774
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,160
They don't have to worry about nothing.

775
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,000
My wife looked at me,

776
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,040
we got to the freaking Maxwell concert.

777
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,200
Did you got my ID?

778
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,520
Yes, baby, it's in my wallet.

779
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,040
I got you, I did it in my wallet.

780
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,880
Yes, man.

781
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,040
That's the concept.

782
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,640
Just like the fans, man.

783
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,240
Fans, brains are off.

784
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:01,800
They're just here to just, they're lunatics,

785
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,920
they're fans, they're fanatics.

786
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,160
That's what makes us fans.

787
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,840
We are fanatics, bro.

788
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,840
So we turn all responsibility up.

789
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,240
So we're robots at that point.

790
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:14,360
And now we need to be directed.

791
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,200
Right.

792
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,040
That's where the PA does.

793
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:16,880
He directs.

794
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,120
It's edutainment, man.

795
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,200
It's edutainment.

796
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,240
You got to educate them?

797
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:21,080
Yep.

798
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,520
And you got to entertain them at the same time.

799
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,360
At the same time.

800
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,200
Absolutely.

801
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,040
At the same time.

802
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,880
Absolutely.

803
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,680
Man, how do you, so you talk throughout the entire,

804
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,720
how do you keep your voice conditioned

805
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:32,560
and stuff like that?

806
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,680
That honestly has been just a blessing

807
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,920
because I don't do the normal, like,

808
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,560
people always talk about like tees

809
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,480
and throat coats, paws and stuff like that.

810
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,320
Like I don't do a lot of those things.

811
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,600
If I'm, if I'm feeling something,

812
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,520
I might do a warm beverage or warm tea

813
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,840
or something like that, but like,

814
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,000
preparation for games, do I do something

815
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,600
or do I eat a certain candy?

816
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,640
I really don't, bro.

817
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,320
Like, sadly and transparently,

818
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,240
I'm very immature when it comes to that.

819
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,520
I probably should do a much better job

820
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,920
of that, of saying that my vocal chords,

821
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,040
it's my lifeline.

822
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

823
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,720
Yeah.

824
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:13,520
But I don't really have any, like,

825
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,600
cause I remember talking to Pat

826
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,040
and Pat used to talk about like,

827
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,960
he had his throat loss agency with that,

828
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,880
gonna take during games and stuff like that.

829
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,240
And he would give it to them and I would use them

830
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:23,800
and they do open you up, you know what I'm saying?

831
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,600
But it isn't something that I do consistently.

832
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,200
Has there ever been a name that was hard to pronounce?

833
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,880
Like in preparing for game day,

834
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,840
is it just or, I think you had to say what I'm trying to say?

835
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,160
Hell yes.

836
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,000
Ha ha ha ha.

837
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,360
Hell yes.

838
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,880
Have you seen that commercial

839
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,480
where the teachers up there trying to read them names

840
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,040
and they got attitudes like, you mean the Quadrius?

841
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,680
The Quadrius, okay.

842
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,000
I just had the door open

843
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,600
and there was somebody standing over my shoulder.

844
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,840
And I there gone, made a play and I went,

845
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,000
I'm like, yo, and she said, my son's name is.

846
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,560
Find out who broke into the PA booth

847
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,840
right after this,

848
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,960
you're listening to On the Jumbotron podcast

849
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,120
with Christopher Lee.

850
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,720
Get ready for more laughs

851
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:13,000
and more insight on the other side.

852
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,560
Stay tuned.

853
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,400
What's happening?

854
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,440
BDOT here.

855
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,200
And if you've ever been to a game that I've done

856
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,120
to PA or arena hosting, you will agree,

857
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,160
there is no equivalent to the BDOT experience.

858
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,600
And I've noticed that through the years,

859
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,800
some folks may want to book the BDOT experience,

860
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,320
but I'm already booked and I can't clone myself.

861
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,400
So I figured, why not teach you the BDOT effect

862
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,880
of hosting and announcing?

863
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,720
Who's hosting?

864
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,280
So if you got aspirations to do what I do,

865
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,760
whether PA announces or arena hosting,

866
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,200
I got a few spots left

867
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,280
to my who's hosting 12 week course.

868
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,280
All you do is shoot an email to who is hosting 101 at Gmail.

869
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,240
From there, you'll get a form to fill out

870
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:58,000
where you have three different packages to choose from.

871
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,600
All three have the basic options 12 Zoom classes.

872
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,360
The interactive observer awards you two games

873
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,520
to attend and observe the process.

874
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,000
The sideline companion, you get to shadow me at two games

875
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,040
in the press box or at the scores table.

876
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,480
Limited spots left, you will agree,

877
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,840
there is no equivalent to the BDOT experience.

878
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,240
Welcome back and thanks for tuning in.

879
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,880
Hell yeah.

880
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,400
Have you seen that commercial

881
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,040
where the teachers up there try to read them names

882
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:28,880
and they got added to it.

883
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,920
It was like, you mean the quandary is like,

884
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,120
the quaint, okay.

885
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,200
Bruh, it gets bad too.

886
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,560
It was like, I wish I could remember the name,

887
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,280
but it was something like, say it was Christopher.

888
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,120
Right.

889
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,920
And the pronunciation was Christopher.

890
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,240
Right.

891
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,240
Christopher.

892
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:56,240
Christopher and the pH was a V so it was Christopher.

893
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,880
That's how it's pronounced, Christopher,

894
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,000
but it was spelled Christopher.

895
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:01,920
Right.

896
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,120
I had a mom come up in the press box.

897
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,400
I don't even know how.

898
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,160
It's so many layers to get in a press box

899
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,160
and so many different levels of clearance

900
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,480
you have to check to get to upstairs in our press box.

901
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,800
I just had the door open

902
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,400
and there was somebody standing over my shoulder.

903
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,680
And I dad gone, made a play in our living room.

904
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:23,920
I'm like, yo.

905
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,520
And she said, my son's name is such and such Christopher.

906
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,320
Boy, when mama bear needs to get in,

907
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,160
Bro.

908
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,000
Mama bear gonna get in.

909
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:38,000
And I was so mad, like for a bunch of friends,

910
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,000
I'm pissed because why in the hell is it spelled Christopher?

911
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Second.

912
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,440
And I wanted to look at like,

913
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,880
look how y'all spelled this name.

914
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,040
This is, how am I supposed to know this is Christopher?

915
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:49,880
Right.

916
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,000
I was supposed to know that.

917
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:51,840
Right.

918
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,600
I was so, then how in the hell are you in here?

919
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,440
How did you get in here?

920
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,520
How are you beside me saying this?

921
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,880
Why was this not sent up or approached after the game?

922
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:01,720
Right.

923
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,320
And why are you so pressed that you up,

924
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,400
it ain't even half time

925
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,800
that you was up in this press box?

926
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,000
Names are horrible.

927
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,720
And it's the scariest thing, man.

928
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,080
And like, and people have no clue

929
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:12,920
what you're going through

930
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:13,760
if they're trying to read all that.

931
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,600
Like they'll give you a whole read.

932
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,640
All right, we need you to read this at halftime

933
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,160
before the band comes out.

934
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,800
So you got to proofread it just to make sure

935
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,400
it ain't no Ron Burgundy typos in here

936
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,280
with the wrong dates and all kinds of foolishness.

937
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,000
They like, for like senior nights in homecomings

938
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,000
where you just got like a hundred names to read.

939
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Right.

940
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,680
And you got to read their name,

941
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,240
what city they from, what instrument they play,

942
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,080
they mom and their daddy name,

943
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,480
the escorts that's with them,

944
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,600
all the names with them.

945
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,280
And them all been hand written in here.

946
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,120
Bro.

947
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,400
You don't know if that's an E or a A.

948
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,240
And you don't really find out until you say the name wrong

949
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,400
as hell and they look up at you at the Prince Barclay.

950
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,360
And I'd be very serious.

951
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,640
I'd be like, I guess I messed that up.

952
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:58,840
I apologize.

953
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,320
Like, what do you want me to do?

954
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,440
It's a million names up here.

955
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,560
And y'all got all these vows and constant

956
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,520
is thrown all around and just boy name.

957
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,360
Right.

958
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,400
Like A-A-Ron.

959
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,240
Bro.

960
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,240
Aaron, that is A-A-Ron.

961
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:19,360
Balakay.

962
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,400
Bro, you have no clue, man.

963
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,640
That is the scariest thing.

964
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,480
Like pregame, every game during the national anthem,

965
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,320
whatever sport, that's when I take my time

966
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:30,560
to say my prayer.

967
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,760
And every game in my prayer, it is always,

968
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,320
God, please let me have minimal mistakes

969
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,960
with these names and these reads.

970
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,400
Like every game, I've done it for 20 years.

971
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,840
God, please, minimal mistakes with these names

972
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:46,680
and these reads.

973
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,520
That is hilarious.

974
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,120
Because it's so, like, it's a lot of pressure.

975
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,400
Like, it's a lot of, I'm glad that reading

976
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,640
is one of my strong suits.

977
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,560
I really, really am because I was never scared

978
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,720
to read in front of the class or read with one finger

979
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,560
under the word.

980
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,400
That was never me.

981
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,240
I'm good with that.

982
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,880
So, but if reading isn't your strong suit,

983
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,760
like you just good with the play ball play,

984
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,240
but and you have to read them live reads.

985
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,280
Oh boy, the struggle.

986
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,120
Right.

987
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,520
And I bet right now, I bet there are people

988
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,640
trying to read and understand what the FFCS is.

989
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,440
I know people have been looking at the entire episode.

990
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,360
Go ahead and tell them what that means.

991
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,520
Freestyle Funny Comedy Show.

992
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,920
And the Freestyle Funny Comedy Show was a brand

993
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,720
that I founded with five, six, very, very, very

994
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,120
entertaining gentlemen.

995
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,440
You may know some of them, but it was four of us

996
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,080
doing comedy and the four of us was myself,

997
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:48,000
Darren Brand, Osama Ben-Drankins and Chico Bean.

998
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,720
The four of us traveled the country doing stand-up.

999
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,840
We started it back in 2009.

1000
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,160
It was a stand-up and improv show.

1001
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,120
And then the goal for it was for us to get on television.

1002
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,000
And myself, Darren and Bean, of course,

1003
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,320
all got on wild and out type deal.

1004
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,600
Drankins now travels with Bean.

1005
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,640
He's touring and performs with him.

1006
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,600
Yeah, man.

1007
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,360
Freestyle Funny was, it's a staple.

1008
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,760
It was like the foundation for what 85 South is doing.

1009
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,320
If you like what 85 South is doing,

1010
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,480
that's basically what we were doing,

1011
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,960
but we would have stand-up involved in that.

1012
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,520
We'll play improv games.

1013
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,160
And it was a vibe, man.

1014
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,880
It was a dope vibe from 2009 to 2019.

1015
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,400
We dissolved right before COVID.

1016
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:34,440
I got you, dude.

1017
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,960
And improving is probably a lot of what you do

1018
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,800
in the booth too, on game day.

1019
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:39,640
Absolutely.

1020
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,320
I mean, just knowing you,

1021
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,120
just knowing you and your personality

1022
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,600
is a whole lot of improv.

1023
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,360
That's what makes it different, man.

1024
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,600
That's what separates me.

1025
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,600
And the sad reality for that, Chris,

1026
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,200
that I've had to accept is that's not everybody's team.

1027
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,040
You know what I'm saying?

1028
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,600
There are some organizations that are much more conservative

1029
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,160
that really, really enjoy just a very pedestrian style PA.

1030
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,320
And no knock to that style because, you know,

1031
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,120
there are some very talented, pedestrian sounding,

1032
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,880
monotone sounding PA guys,

1033
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,320
but that's just not my style.

1034
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,480
That's just not my swag.

1035
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,800
That's just not my energy.

1036
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,200
Mine comes from a space of HBCU culture,

1037
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,600
straight, unapologetically black, unapologetically me.

1038
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,240
And that's just how I operate, bro.

1039
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,880
What trends have you seen or are seeing in the PA business?

1040
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,080
You said trends.

1041
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,560
Trends like technology.

1042
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:36,520
I thought there was an A right there.

1043
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,360
I thought you had that.

1044
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,720
I haven't seen any, Chris.

1045
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,920
I haven't seen any and I would like your next question.

1046
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,680
That's what I was gonna answer with.

1047
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,920
I ain't trying to get you, bro.

1048
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:45,880
I ain't trying to get you.

1049
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,680
We all try to get paid of this, please.

1050
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,480
I haven't seen any, Chris.

1051
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:51,440
Next question.

1052
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:52,720
I ain't trying to cancel the whole box.

1053
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,240
So let me ask that again.

1054
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,640
Let me pronounce it.

1055
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,720
These were, how do you see your role as PA announcing,

1056
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,160
evolving in the rise of technology and AI

1057
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,440
and everything else?

1058
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,320
I think that, especially myself,

1059
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,800
like having a personality, being a brand outside of the PA,

1060
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,200
I think that bodes well for me.

1061
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,800
When Famu was looking for a PA announcer and I put up,

1062
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,920
yo, they're looking for a PA announcer.

1063
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:20,720
I'm interested.

1064
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,800
Y'all gonna let them know I'm the right choice.

1065
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,520
It was the most engagement they had had on one of their posts

1066
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,800
up until that point this season.

1067
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,520
So when they're seeing stuff like that,

1068
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,120
and it's like, yo, like a PA announcer with a presence,

1069
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,440
like I'm interested in that.

1070
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:35,280
What does he do?

1071
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,880
PA or does he do comedy podcast and what does he do?

1072
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,440
And then I get in there and you see them dope at PA.

1073
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,560
It's like, wow, you know, like,

1074
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,120
there aren't many PA announcers that have hundreds

1075
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,480
of thousands of followers and that's locked in so much

1076
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,600
on social media and those type things.

1077
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:51,440
You did what I'm saying.

1078
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,720
So like that separates me in that space.

1079
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,760
But honestly, I think that that's gonna be the trajectory.

1080
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,680
Like especially when you're talking about arena hosts

1081
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,800
and things of the nature, like getting content

1082
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,480
behind the scenes content that nobody else can see,

1083
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,000
breaking down that wall where people can come

1084
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:08,840
into the press box.

1085
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,800
Like I do a lot of that for my subscribers on my Instagram.

1086
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,240
Like I have my, sometimes I go live from the press box

1087
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,640
and you get to see what it's like in there

1088
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,840
while I'm calling the game, whether we winning or losing

1089
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,160
and you're seeing the energy, we getting smacked

1090
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,920
but I still gotta bring energy for plays or we winning

1091
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,960
and how the energy is in there.

1092
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,520
And we super celebrating.

1093
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,400
Yeah, but then I gotta come on first down for the round

1094
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,280
or, you know, just not be as biased in certain spots.

1095
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,880
You just get to come in and see all of that.

1096
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,240
So I think that's the trend moving forward,

1097
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,840
especially as far as my platform is concerned,

1098
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,200
just sort of showing more behind the scenes

1099
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,440
of how that whole world operates.

1100
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,520
Like Ben, when I was working for Carolina,

1101
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,680
like pregame stuff, just showing the boys warming up

1102
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,800
and stuff before the game.

1103
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,800
Like that's stuff that most of the average fan

1104
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,320
doesn't even know is going on.

1105
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,040
Like behind the scenes type stuff.

1106
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,640
Yeah, yeah.

1107
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,480
I got you.

1108
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,280
And you get a, like when you're doing PA and Arena hosted,

1109
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:08,280
you get that behind the curtain visual that only you have.

1110
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:09,320
You know what I'm saying?

1111
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:10,600
And if you're doing it in a respectful way,

1112
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,520
not trying to exploit, not in the locker room,

1113
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,200
trying to get for not anything to that,

1114
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,200
but it's just for the fan experience,

1115
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,680
for the overall fan experience

1116
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,360
and showing them different sides

1117
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,440
that they might not see otherwise.

1118
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,080
What kind of things are on the script

1119
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,080
that PA announcers need to be aware of?

1120
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,720
Like the outlines and stuff like that?

1121
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,800
That's honestly something that's something else

1122
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,680
that we cover in my who's hosting course

1123
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,520
because it's important to be able to understand the script.

1124
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,760
And when they're done correctly,

1125
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,640
you'll have your elements one through 50.

1126
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,880
And in the elements, everybody will have their own.

1127
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,280
The PA announced will have his,

1128
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:47,520
the arena host will have his,

1129
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,320
your video guys will have theirs.

1130
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,480
And sometimes it gets so funky

1131
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,280
that it'll be highlights on what your parts are.

1132
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,360
So when I'm doing PA,

1133
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,800
I know I have this to read during this time out.

1134
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,560
This time out, I have no reads,

1135
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:00,880
it's all video board stuff.

1136
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,600
I can just sit back and chill.

1137
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,520
And so you're looking at the script.

1138
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:06,760
That's why you need to be at the game

1139
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:07,960
two hours before the game.

1140
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,720
So you can look through your script,

1141
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,080
make sure everything is what it's supposed to be.

1142
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,440
We are doing this here, we are doing that here.

1143
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,440
The honey beans are performing here.

1144
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,880
Then we're gonna have like those things are important

1145
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,680
and knowing where you're supposed to be.

1146
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,640
Reading through the script one time

1147
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,400
to make sure that you know what words are there.

1148
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,440
Nothing worse than that.

1149
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,080
Gonna not read something.

1150
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,480
It's Helensky.

1151
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,880
I remember one time there was the Helensky group.

1152
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:38,400
H-I-L-I-N-S-K-I,

1153
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,880
or might've been two A's.

1154
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,960
But the Mize and the A's just started looking

1155
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,600
like just a bunch of, and it was like,

1156
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,600
and I'm talking about I just got the,

1157
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,400
and I just said on the bottom, woo!

1158
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,240
Woo!

1159
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,040
Helensky guys,

1160
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:55,880
holy.

1161
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,760
And people still joke me about that.

1162
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,360
Like I was at the WS that you gave last week,

1163
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,680
though a couple weeks ago,

1164
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,000
at Bruce A, A,

1165
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,000
because I had a Helensky read and I read it.

1166
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,000
The hats I do is that,

1167
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,160
A, been working on your Helenskys I see.

1168
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,280
I said, but if you don't know about that, go face.

1169
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,040
Like so people remember stuff like that.

1170
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,360
But again, addressing the elephant in the room,

1171
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,280
like just me stuttering on Helensky,

1172
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,080
and then not saying nothing,

1173
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,160
and then saying you're right,

1174
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,280
or acting like it never happened.

1175
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:27,600
Everybody in the audience would be like,

1176
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,040
oh, so you ain't gonna act like that word

1177
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,800
about killed you up there in that press box.

1178
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,280
Like you just gonna act like we all,

1179
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,240
then all just hear you die by word up there,

1180
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,960
like address it.

1181
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,120
Address everything.

1182
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,960
Like you're the host.

1183
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,720
I tell them in the class, like you're the host.

1184
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,760
So like when, if somebody came to your house

1185
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:46,880
and you were hosting,

1186
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,960
would you just let them wander to the bathrooms?

1187
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,400
And turn, no, you wouldn't do that.

1188
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,360
You would let them know.

1189
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,440
Like right now we about to watch TV.

1190
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,280
After that, we're gonna have food coming out.

1191
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,040
You need to go to the bathroom with them.

1192
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,120
You're a host.

1193
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,680
PA announcer, arena host, no different.

1194
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,320
We have the same obligations and responsibilities.

1195
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,560
This is our home.

1196
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,120
These are our guests for the night.

1197
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,280
Our job is to make them feel comfortable.

1198
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,160
Even the ones we don't like,

1199
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,320
even the visitors, we're still visited.

1200
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,920
Like we still have to be, you know, respectful host.

1201
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,160
We don't have to agree,

1202
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,720
but we have to be respectful host.

1203
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,160
And that's how I try to carry it.

1204
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,720
But as it pertains to script read,

1205
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,560
there's a lot of words.

1206
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,040
Sometimes you don't need all those words.

1207
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,760
So I like to go through and mark out what I don't need

1208
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,200
and circle what I might and put a star beside something

1209
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,480
that I got multiple reads of and that type of stuff.

1210
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:37,600
But each game and each sport is different.

1211
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:38,520
That's crazy, man.

1212
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,360
And that's good.

1213
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,560
I never thought about, you know,

1214
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,040
the host analogy like that, that your job

1215
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,560
is to take them through the game.

1216
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,160
Your job is to make them feel comfortable.

1217
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,760
Your job is to let them know what's coming up next

1218
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:54,960
and different things like that.

1219
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,400
I mean, because I go to games all the time

1220
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,080
and they just, I hear it, but it doesn't,

1221
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,720
I really don't think about it

1222
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,000
the way that you are explaining it to me.

1223
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,560
So I'm glad we're having this conversation.

1224
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,960
Give me a one quick story.

1225
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,960
Like, I kid you not, this thing really happened.

1226
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:22,400
I kid you not, I got to a Carolina game

1227
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:29,040
to do arena hosting midway through the first half.

1228
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,080
Carolina, bro.

1229
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,840
Carolina, bro.

1230
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,680
Wow.

1231
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,720
When I, it was my first year.

1232
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:41,560
Hmm.

1233
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,360
I have no words.

1234
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,320
One of my friends, of course,

1235
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,120
everybody was hitting me up wanting tickets,

1236
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,360
wanting to go to games, everybody.

1237
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,720
And one of my partners who helped me with my cars,

1238
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,880
I was like, yo, bro, like we can go to a game.

1239
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,520
He was like, bet, bet.

1240
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,920
And as the other guy, I was like,

1241
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,600
bet, bet, bet, and as the arena host,

1242
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,560
they would always give me one ticket for somebody

1243
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,640
that is doing some camera work for him

1244
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,480
or anything like that.

1245
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:09,920
So I told him he can get the ticket.

1246
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:10,880
She was like, bet.

1247
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,520
So we dropped, so he wanted to draw

1248
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,000
because he had this Maserati truck.

1249
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,760
Bet, say less, I'm riding with you.

1250
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,400
When I got to him, we was already pushed for time.

1251
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,880
Like I was already gonna be pushing it

1252
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,920
if I was speeding.

1253
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,320
Right.

1254
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,960
It's raining, he's not speeding,

1255
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,400
and traffic just happens to be reading.

1256
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,360
I'm talking about driving through Burlington,

1257
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:38,800
it might've been an accident or something.

1258
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,080
Like it was just, like,

1259
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,680
I was just watching the time just tick, tick, tick, tick,

1260
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,440
tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

1261
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:48,760
I'm like, and I've never,

1262
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:53,040
I've never been late to a game in 20 years.

1263
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,640
And all the freaking games

1264
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,800
are Carolina game, dude.

1265
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:58,880
Who were they playing?

1266
01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,920
I don't even remember.

1267
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,840
I don't remember, Chris.

1268
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,480
I know when I got there, I'm talking about,

1269
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:08,040
mind you, and all I'm thinking about is,

1270
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,600
man, we still got to park, then we got to run,

1271
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,320
we got to get inside, like.

1272
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,280
Oh, through security.

1273
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,880
All the pregame stuff I usually do,

1274
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,280
I can't do any of that stuff.

1275
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,760
Like I got to just walk into the student section.

1276
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,440
Like I'd already missed two timeouts, like,

1277
01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:23,600
oh my God, I was a wreck.

1278
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:28,600
And when I got there, like, everybody was so accommodating.

1279
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,320
Like, you're fine, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.

1280
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,320
We're so happy you're here, we're glad you're here.

1281
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,480
So, I'm glad you made it.

1282
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:36,160
We didn't know if you were gonna be able to make it.

1283
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,560
And I felt so, that was one of the first times,

1284
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:40,400
we're not one of the first times,

1285
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,000
but that was one of those times where I just remember

1286
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,240
being like, they really like me here, yo.

1287
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,080
You know what I'm saying?

1288
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,160
Like, if some of those jobs are just like,

1289
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,800
you feel like you're just an employee,

1290
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,760
you feel like you're really there, like,

1291
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,840
they put you in the corners and, all right, it's your time.

1292
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,680
Go do your dance monkey, all right, sit back down.

1293
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,400
Like that type energy, for real,

1294
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,920
I've done this enough to have those type vibes.

1295
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,760
This was one of the first times I was just like,

1296
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,000
dang man, like, and honestly,

1297
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,200
it made me feel more embarrassed.

1298
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,080
Like they rock with me this hard, man.

1299
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,640
I'm sitting here late riding with this goofy,

1300
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,240
like, I remember we was in the car,

1301
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,320
and he just felt me getting tense and just excelling

1302
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,240
and like, my feet up, dude, damn.

1303
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,000
And he just looked at me one time, like,

1304
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,920
he's like, bro, I know I ain't going as fast

1305
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:28,760
as you want me to go.

1306
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:29,880
Do you want to drive?

1307
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,840
And I'm like, nah, man, like, nah, just, just, just drive.

1308
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,520
At this point, just drive.

1309
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,680
I'll get that when I get there.

1310
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,760
But that was devastating.

1311
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,400
I did not know that story.

1312
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:40,240
That was devastating.

1313
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:41,200
I did not know that.

1314
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,160
And we closed.

1315
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,240
I did not know that story.

1316
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:44,600
That was devastating.

1317
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:45,440
Oh my God.

1318
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:46,640
That was devastating.

1319
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:47,480
Oh my God.

1320
01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:51,680
You know, like, bro, we took Kevin to Carolina

1321
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,360
to drop him off, bro.

1322
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,400
Right.

1323
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,480
Like we, like, when we worked in Carolina,

1324
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:01,880
that was the best time ever.

1325
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,480
Like people don't understand, like,

1326
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:08,240
I remember being so jealous of you, like, not envious,

1327
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,440
but jealous, like, he is getting too li-

1328
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:16,120
We grew up the biggest Tar Heel fans ever.

1329
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:16,960
Right.

1330
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:21,920
To be able to be in that space, bro, like, to that point,

1331
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,160
like, I tell people all the time, like, that's when I,

1332
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,160
when I stopped working at Carolina,

1333
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,040
that was the first time I realized that you can grieve

1334
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,680
more than just a person.

1335
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,640
Like you can grieve losing a job.

1336
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:36,480
You know what I'm saying?

1337
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:39,040
Like, especially when it's a job you love.

1338
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,960
And I remember putting that on, on Facebook, like,

1339
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,880
you know, up until this point, I felt like I thought

1340
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,240
that the only grief one could have was grief of a family

1341
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,560
member, a person, you know, that type of loss of life.

1342
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,520
But losing a job you love is the same equivalent.

1343
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,280
Like the levels of depression you go through,

1344
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:02,080
the just denial and like resentment and anger and like,

1345
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,560
all of, like, you go through all of that, dawg.

1346
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,480
Because it goes back to what we were talking about earlier,

1347
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:07,400
with that passion.

1348
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,280
I mean, when you're passionate about something, bro,

1349
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,040
it's all over you.

1350
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,600
It's all over you.

1351
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,640
And when it goes away, I mean, your heart hurts.

1352
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,080
You don't feel like getting out of bed.

1353
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,440
You don't feel like eating.

1354
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:23,160
Yeah.

1355
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,640
I mean, I mean, it could be, you know,

1356
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,000
some pound cake right there next to you.

1357
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,120
You don't feel like doing nothing.

1358
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:29,840
Nothing.

1359
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,440
And people don't understand, like, the same way

1360
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:36,440
when you're grieving the loss of a family member,

1361
01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:38,360
like the same way when somebody comes up to you,

1362
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:39,960
they wouldn't come up to you and be like,

1363
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,400
dang man, so, so your mom died.

1364
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,920
How did your mama die?

1365
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,720
They wouldn't say that.

1366
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,680
But with your job, they're like, dang man,

1367
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,680
so what happened to Carolina, man?

1368
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:50,280
Right.

1369
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,320
You did what I'm saying, like, and to the same point,

1370
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,400
like, you wouldn't come up to me and ask me how my mom died

1371
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,040
because you know that that would make me feel somber and relive

1372
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,080
moments that I didn't want to relive.

1373
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,840
The same way when you guys were happy to Carolina,

1374
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,480
I do the exact same thing.

1375
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:05,000
Yeah.

1376
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:05,480
You know what I'm saying?

1377
01:15:05,480 --> 01:15:07,160
Like, but people don't understand that,

1378
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,480
that it's levels to those things.

1379
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:09,680
Right.

1380
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,080
You were definitely right on that.

1381
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,080
You were definitely right on that.

1382
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,520
I mean, because I remember when my time there was over,

1383
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,720
I had to question my value, bro.

1384
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:18,440
Right.

1385
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:21,960
I had to feel like and see like, OK, am I still,

1386
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,040
am I still me?

1387
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:23,840
Right.

1388
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:24,320
Right.

1389
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,720
I mean, because we are a die hard Carolina band.

1390
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:28,360
Yes.

1391
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,960
And so to be able to work there is a lifelong dream.

1392
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,280
Yes.

1393
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,280
That's almost like getting into heaven and then getting,

1394
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,720
and then getting kicked out.

1395
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,080
But what's crazy about it though, Chris, is it was,

1396
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,280
yes, that's exactly what it's like.

1397
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,280
That's exactly what it's like.

1398
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,240
But what's crazy is I never had aspirations

1399
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,600
to work at Carolina.

1400
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:51,080
Right.

1401
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:51,760
You did understand?

1402
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,720
Like, that was never on my bucket list.

1403
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,160
Like, going to Carolina when we was in high school,

1404
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,600
yeah, that would have been great.

1405
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,240
But being able to be in Carolina's locker room,

1406
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,440
I never in a million years thought my pet how.

1407
01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:06,680
I'm nowhere near good enough a basketball player

1408
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,760
to freaking get in Carolina's locker room

1409
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,360
and be able to shoot baskets on Carolina's,

1410
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,640
have my son here shooting basketball warm-ups

1411
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:14,680
and talking to players.

1412
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,280
How?

1413
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:16,240
No way.

1414
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,680
I never had that on my bingo card.

1415
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,480
So to get that, it's like, you're exactly right.

1416
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:25,360
But even still, the goal is to get to heaven.

1417
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,640
That was never a goal.

1418
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,280
So to be given this, to hit this lottery,

1419
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,240
to win this lottery ticket, and then to statue

1420
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,280
of the lottery ticket away from you.

1421
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,280
Right.

1422
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:38,920
Right.

1423
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,240
You just cover yourself up.

1424
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,000
Let's get my $40 off the dresser.

1425
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,040
Just let me go home.

1426
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaking of aspirations, and I just saw the star.

1427
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,320
Gosh.

1428
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,800
Would you ever want to be PA announcer for the Cowboys?

1429
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:54,400
Yes.

1430
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,800
That's my goal to be PA.

1431
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,560
And not to be the PA announcer for the Cowboy.

1432
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,000
My goal, one of my goals is to be PA announcer for the Panthers,

1433
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:01,680
though.

1434
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,680
Like, I would love to turn up Charlotte.

1435
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,720
Like, that's what I thought my, what?

1436
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,080
What would you say about Bryce Hill?

1437
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,560
I don't know, man.

1438
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,560
I don't know.

1439
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:11,560
OK.

1440
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:12,560
All right.

1441
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,560
Real on.

1442
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:14,560
Go back.

1443
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,600
That man has built like a high schooler for real, man.

1444
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,000
It is insane.

1445
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:20,800
I don't know how you look at Bryce.

1446
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,200
That's what pisses me off, though.

1447
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,440
There are people that get paid.

1448
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:26,200
Big money.

1449
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:30,280
Big money, Chris, to say, this is CJ Stroud.

1450
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,800
This is Bryce Hill.

1451
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,240
I can get all the footage I want.

1452
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,960
The interviews, the music, the music.

1453
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,520
The interviews.

1454
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,600
I can touch their biceps and see them side by side.

1455
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:42,600
I can do all.

1456
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,120
And I am tasked with this decision.

1457
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,120
Which one do I want?

1458
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,440
I'm going to put Bryce over this guy.

1459
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:52,920
You get paid millions to make that decision.

1460
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:53,920
And millions?

1461
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:54,920
And millions.

1462
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:55,920
How?

1463
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:00,200
How do you get paid millions to make that decision?

1464
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,760
And you make that decision.

1465
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:03,760
Let's go back to PA.

1466
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:04,760
Let's go back to PA.

1467
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:05,760
OK.

1468
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:06,760
OK.

1469
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:07,760
Yeah.

1470
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:08,760
Cut this out.

1471
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,760
You might mess up my chances again with the PA.

1472
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:13,400
So PA announced before the Panthers.

1473
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:14,400
That's a dream?

1474
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,680
Yeah, man, for sure.

1475
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,680
Just being on that level, NFL, PA would be super ideal.

1476
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,560
When you say Dallas, absolutely.

1477
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,120
Just being a Cowboys fan, I would super love that.

1478
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,960
But I don't know anymore.

1479
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:36,160
It sort of scares me doing PA or working for a team I love.

1480
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:40,640
Because after losing Carolina, I was in a real dark place.

1481
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:41,640
Been there.

1482
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,240
I was in a real dark place there.

1483
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:49,680
And I still to this day, I don't know if I can go into Dean Dome right now.

1484
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,080
I haven't been back.

1485
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:56,200
Like going in there and knowing where I used to stand and knowing what I would be doing

1486
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,200
at a time.

1487
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,560
I don't know if I want that emotional baggage.

1488
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:04,040
I don't want to be walking around and people saying, especially if I got my hat on and

1489
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,520
they, hey, man, you're here.

1490
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,520
Can we get a picture?

1491
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,520
Why are you not down?

1492
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,360
I don't want to go through a game of that, man.

1493
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,800
So I would just rather stay away and not even have to deal with that.

1494
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,760
It's like your girl being with somebody else.

1495
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,360
It hurts, man.

1496
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:19,360
It hurts.

1497
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,160
So I don't know.

1498
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:26,440
I would love the idea of working for the Cowboys.

1499
01:19:26,440 --> 01:19:30,720
If I could work there for 20 seasons, absolutely, sign me up right now.

1500
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,800
But if it's going to be three and out like a bad drive, no.

1501
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:34,800
All right.

1502
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,040
You can only pick one.

1503
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:43,040
For the rest of your career, PA announcer or arena hosting?

1504
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,880
Oh, that's easy.

1505
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:45,880
PA announcer.

1506
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:46,880
PA?

1507
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,880
Yeah.

1508
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:53,200
PA announcer is easier just because, you know, I'm getting a little older in the tooth.

1509
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:57,640
So like running around in the stadiums and stuff like people don't understand as arena

1510
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,200
hosts, you do more running than some of the players.

1511
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,320
You're up and down the court.

1512
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,320
You're up and down.

1513
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,320
Sometimes you got to go up in the stands and do it.

1514
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:07,320
Especially the B team.

1515
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,680
You come back down like, what do you say?

1516
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:10,680
Especially the B team.

1517
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:15,680
In fact, especially blue steel, you definitely on the court more than them.

1518
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,400
What are you talking about?

1519
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:23,160
Like it's like, there are some days like for real, like where your, your legs are aching

1520
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,720
like you did so much and you don't realize it in that moment.

1521
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,960
But the next day when you wake up, it's like, yo, you got to go get like a D'Shawn Wasam

1522
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:30,960
massage.

1523
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,960
Not like D'Shawn Was.

1524
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:32,960
Not like D'Shawn Was.

1525
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:37,960
That's a whole different type of.

1526
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,960
Yes it is.

1527
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,960
That's a whole different type of Wasm, bro.

1528
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,000
No, but like the wear and tear on the body is a little bit more on the arena.

1529
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,000
I get it.

1530
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,640
And from the PA spot, I can really do both from PA.

1531
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,240
Like I can do half time and I can entertain, I mean, a time out reads.

1532
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,200
I can still get the crowd in the engage.

1533
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,720
I can still do call and respond stuff off the jumbo trying.

1534
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,920
So PA is really, really much strength.

1535
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,400
That's what I really enjoyed the most.

1536
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,240
All right, we're going to rewind all the way back to the beginning.

1537
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:23,080
If you would have gotten on the team in high school, where would you be now?

1538
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,800
Probably still in Greensboro, Chris.

1539
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:36,160
Probably still in Greensboro, like, but like working, working a job, just a job, no career,

1540
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:42,640
working a job, being entertaining in that job, you know what I'm saying?

1541
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,280
Like whatever job it would have been, like I would have been the guy at your job.

1542
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,280
That's the funny dude.

1543
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:48,280
I love when he come to work.

1544
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,280
He's so funny.

1545
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,560
He's been telling me stuff like, man, you should do stand up, man.

1546
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,560
Like you would be funny doing that.

1547
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,800
It would have been that type of life for me.

1548
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,440
But I don't think that I ever would have pursued that.

1549
01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:02,400
I think I would have just, honestly, just my goal would have tried to have been like

1550
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:07,840
to be manager somewhere at like a Laurelard or Procter and Gamble or something probably

1551
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,840
to do the benefit.

1552
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:09,840
Really?

1553
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:16,760
I really do believe that because like before going to college, like I was working at Sears

1554
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,440
Credit Central making good money.

1555
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:25,280
Like that was my goal, like to be a manager at Sears, bringing in about a hundred K a

1556
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:30,000
year doing that, having a nice career, a couple cars, you know what I'm saying?

1557
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,360
Like that was it.

1558
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:40,160
And going to college, I remember when my mom married Terry Crune and Crune told me that

1559
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:45,880
I had to get out the house and I had to either go and get a job or I had to get my own career

1560
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,280
with my job or I had to go to college.

1561
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,320
But that fall, I had to fall of 2000.

1562
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,040
I had to be out of their house.

1563
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:58,360
And I remember being pissed off like, mama, how are you going to let this dude tell me

1564
01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:59,360
I got a leave?

1565
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,640
Like for real, and I left angrily.

1566
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:10,800
And that's honestly why I met my mom sort of relationship sort of and she's so like,

1567
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:15,200
so when I got to college, that's when it was just like even still, like I really had no

1568
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,080
direction for PA or none of that.

1569
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,680
Like I just wanted to be where all the chicks was at.

1570
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,040
The chicks was in the modeling troops.

1571
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,560
So I went and auditioned for the modeling troops.

1572
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,840
I got in the modeling troops.

1573
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:26,840
I remember that.

1574
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,840
Like, all right, say less.

1575
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:29,840
I remember.

1576
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:36,320
And like when I first got to college, when I first got shut up, Chris, what I forgot

1577
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,320
all about that.

1578
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,320
Oh my God.

1579
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:43,320
When I first got to college, I was turning 21.

1580
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:44,320
Right.

1581
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:49,320
And you know, the most important person on a college campus is a 21 year old.

1582
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:52,120
I was a 21 year old freshman.

1583
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,160
So I was a freshman going to the liquor store.

1584
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,720
So it automatically gave me some status.

1585
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,720
You dig?

1586
01:23:58,720 --> 01:23:59,720
And I was like, what?

1587
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,720
With that bit of status and I'm in the modeling troops.

1588
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,040
And I didn't really like modeling, but that's where the chicks was at.

1589
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,040
And my personality, they was like, he's funny.

1590
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:07,920
He can get liquor.

1591
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:08,920
Let's put him in the.

1592
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,280
So I made the truth.

1593
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:11,600
And then I was real creative.

1594
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:17,720
So my, my very first show and only show, my scene was like I was dressed all gothic

1595
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,040
and I walked out and they rolled me out.

1596
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,200
Like I was like a Hannibal Lecter character and they rolled me out on the joint and sat

1597
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:28,680
me down on the front and I bust out of my joint and did my moves and everybody was just

1598
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:29,680
going crazy.

1599
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,680
Crazy.

1600
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:35,280
I'm talking, it was, and I was like, yo, I don't like the modeling part, but being on

1601
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,800
that stage and the crowd going crazy, like I need that.

1602
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,800
And I asked them, I was like, I don't want to be in them.

1603
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,600
I don't want to model, but can I host the show next year?

1604
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:45,600
And they let me host.

1605
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:51,040
And from there, that's when I fell in love with just hosting events and that type vibe

1606
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:56,240
and just, but like, if I never go to college and I'm like, I don't find that.

1607
01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:03,880
And if, and I think if I play football my senior year, I really think I try to pursue

1608
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:08,320
football on some ignorant level and I try to go somewhere to play football.

1609
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,360
And when that fails and I drop out and I come back to Greensboro, it's like, fuck, and I'm

1610
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,280
back with my, my bad.

1611
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,680
I'm back with Angie and I'm back with seven and we just smoking weed and drinking ice

1612
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,480
houses and like that's how we was living.

1613
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:23,240
And I was comfortable in that.

1614
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,360
Like I come from, I come from a ratchet background.

1615
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,560
Like I'm comfortable in ratchetness.

1616
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:34,160
I'm comfortable in noodles and noodles and Kool-Aid and like we smoking black and

1617
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,640
mild smoking, wine, O's and crackers.

1618
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,200
Like I'm comfortable in that space.

1619
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,480
So I would have just adapted to that.

1620
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:43,000
I really believe that.

1621
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,840
Oh, do you know what you just said, bro?

1622
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,960
Do you know what you just put out there?

1623
01:25:50,960 --> 01:26:00,800
Hmm, man, like life is so different for you and all the people that you have blessed,

1624
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:07,240
all the people that you have entertained, all the people that, that, that rock with

1625
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:14,880
you and how, how it could have all been different, you know, you joining, uh, being on the football.

1626
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,160
I mean, it's crazy.

1627
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,160
That's the same thing like what camera I was telling you earlier that Cameron was talking

1628
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:21,160
about.

1629
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,760
I mean, if he would have made the basketball team, he wouldn't have been, you know, Kieran.

1630
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,160
He would have been pursuing that.

1631
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:29,560
He'd been pursuing that.

1632
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:30,560
Yeah.

1633
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,280
I mean, because that's all he wanted to do.

1634
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:38,320
And his friend made the team and now his friend is doing something like not even sports

1635
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:42,800
related, but here this cat is doing stuff that sports related.

1636
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,960
Like he did the, uh, the NBA finals.

1637
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,040
I mean, he was on the court.

1638
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:49,040
Right.

1639
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,040
Kieran.

1640
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:54,320
He's dancing with professionals and I mean, it's crazy, bro.

1641
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:55,320
It is.

1642
01:26:55,320 --> 01:27:00,480
Like my folks sports, one of my good friends sport, he's the one that made me think about

1643
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:04,720
it in that context from being in the locker room because he, we were at home coming, he

1644
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:05,720
pulled me to the side.

1645
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,840
He was like, bro, I don't think you understand what you're doing.

1646
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,520
Like, and how tremendous that is.

1647
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,360
Like I played basketball on a high level.

1648
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,960
Like I played for Winston-Selton State.

1649
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,280
Like my goal was to play college ball and NBA ball.

1650
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,000
I had dreams of being in the Carolina locker room.

1651
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:28,240
I had dreams of doing layups and shooting drills on Carolina in the Dean Dome.

1652
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:32,480
You never had any of those and you're living my dream.

1653
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:33,640
You living my dream.

1654
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,320
That's insane.

1655
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:39,680
And it was like, from now I was like, I bet it's so many other people just like that.

1656
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,320
Like that dude can't play basketball for nothing.

1657
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:43,320
Right.

1658
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:49,120
And he's in there with coach Roy Williams taking selfies and dapping up Huber Davis.

1659
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,120
Yep.

1660
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:51,120
Yep.

1661
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,120
Yep.

1662
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:56,640
Going to his office, sitting down, talking to him, hanging out with him.

1663
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:57,640
Crazy.

1664
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:58,640
It's crazy.

1665
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,280
I'm like, I'm not supposed to be in this room.

1666
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,280
I'm not supposed to be in this room.

1667
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,400
Do y'all realize how much I love y'all?

1668
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:06,400
Wait a minute.

1669
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,400
Wait, wait, wait, wait.

1670
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:08,400
And I get a check.

1671
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,400
And I get a check.

1672
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,000
God, please don't ever let this end.

1673
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,000
Ever.

1674
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,000
Ever, never.

1675
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,000
And healthcare.

1676
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,000
And in.

1677
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,000
And soon.

1678
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,000
Yeah, bro.

1679
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,000
Yeah, bro.

1680
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,000
It's crazy.

1681
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,000
It's crazy.

1682
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,000
It's crazy.

1683
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,000
Brian, what about the wrap up?

1684
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,000
B.DOT.

1685
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,000
Tell me the name.

1686
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:39,480
Well, you just said my government that nobody else uses ever unless Carla is upset with

1687
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:41,920
me or I'm in court.

1688
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:46,320
But the B clearly comes from Brian.

1689
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:54,600
But in 2000, when I started at WSSU, that was the, the birth of the dot coms.

1690
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,600
Everything was dot com.

1691
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,880
That was the birth of the internet phase.

1692
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,040
Everything was the Y2K, like all of that.

1693
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,600
And it was a dude on campus from New York.

1694
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,720
His nickname was dot com.

1695
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,400
And I thought that was the dopest name.

1696
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,240
Like, because he was just saying, I'm plugged in.

1697
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:10,240
Yo, I'm dot com.

1698
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:11,240
Like that.

1699
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,080
And I was like, God, that is.

1700
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:14,920
Oh, I wanted that name.

1701
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:21,160
I wanted my name to be dot com just cause it was just, I wonder what he is doing now.

1702
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,760
Yo, that name was so fire to me.

1703
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:28,840
So in that same vein, one of my folks, um, Rico, and to this day, every time I see him

1704
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:33,880
for homecoming or anywhere, I just hug on him and be like, no, you name me bro.

1705
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:38,840
But he was like, um, man, it's a bunch of bees.

1706
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:43,840
That's a bee and bee Merle and bee this and bee Dawson and bee man, you be dot.

1707
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:44,840
Wow.

1708
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,640
And I was like, ain't no other, ain't no other bees.

1709
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,760
Like when it's you, you be dot name.

1710
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,440
I said it just like that.

1711
01:29:50,440 --> 01:29:51,440
Wow.

1712
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:52,920
And I was like, I ain't be that.

1713
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:53,920
Yeah.

1714
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,680
Ain't nobody else like, man, I'm not be that.

1715
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:56,680
You there going right though.

1716
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:57,680
Ain't nothing after this.

1717
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:58,680
I'm the last be be that.

1718
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,920
And I was like, but I don't want to spell it D O T. That's too common.

1719
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,600
I want to spell it like a h odd.

1720
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:06,600
That's phonetically.

1721
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,760
So D a h t be dot.

1722
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:09,760
Yeah.

1723
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:10,760
I like that.

1724
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,760
I wrote it down on a piece of paper.

1725
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:13,760
Yeah.

1726
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:14,760
Be that.

1727
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:19,880
We talked about your course.

1728
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,240
Those that have stuck with this episode this long.

1729
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:28,760
Give me your top five things that PA announcers need to know.

1730
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:33,640
You need to know, um, discipline because you need to be disciplined enough to have your

1731
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,720
butt there two hours before the game so that you can be prepared.

1732
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,200
That's very important.

1733
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,720
You need to know the sport in which you're doing PA for.

1734
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:51,920
You need to know how to effectively control or impact an audience.

1735
01:30:51,920 --> 01:31:00,080
And you need to know how to read how to say those names, how to read it.

1736
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:01,880
It ain't even just names, Chris.

1737
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,160
I'm telling you, man, like it's all types of businesses.

1738
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:09,160
This is all types of just you don't have to read a whole block and they be like, you only

1739
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,080
got 30 seconds to read this.

1740
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:12,920
And I'm telling you, you are speeding through that joint.

1741
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,400
We're so excited to be beside a trial doctor, but you can't just read it like that.

1742
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:21,160
You still got to put enunciation and you still got to make sure certain words print and that

1743
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,080
that's something else is important to me.

1744
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:30,120
My background in radio is, it's effective when it comes to PA announcing because, you

1745
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:35,760
know, just putting certain tone and with like stand up comedy, like the delivery, the the

1746
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:41,520
theatrics that you have to put beside certain sponsorships just as a Pepsi, the official

1747
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,240
soft drink sponsor of your WSSU Rams.

1748
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,880
Nobody's going to hear that Pepsi.

1749
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:54,680
It's the official soft drink for your WSSU Rams.

1750
01:31:54,680 --> 01:32:00,520
Like it prints like different words, these certain tones and so like being able to read

1751
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,840
and speak well, like that's very important.

1752
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:07,600
Being able to impact the audience is very important, knowledge of your game, very important,

1753
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:12,720
discipline like for real, being prepared and being there early, very important.

1754
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:18,560
So I typically just say, thank you for joining us today on On The Jumbotron.

1755
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,240
How would you close it out?

1756
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:26,840
Hey, hope you enjoyed this episode of The Jumbotron.

1757
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,840
We out here.

1758
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:29,840
Okay.

1759
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:30,840
Bye.

1760
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,960
There he is.

1761
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,280
V.DOT, my brother, I love you, bro.

1762
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:36,280
Love you too, man.

1763
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,600
Hey, seriously, I think this is a dope platform, bro.

1764
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,400
And I think this is a lane that is really untapped.

1765
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:48,920
Like not to do a cheap plug here, but just like my course, like there is nowhere where

1766
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:52,520
people who have aspirations to do this can go.

1767
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:56,680
And like there are so many different components to game day entertainment that you don't just

1768
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,760
have to be a PA announcer or arena host.

1769
01:32:58,760 --> 01:32:59,760
You can write scripts.

1770
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,400
And like that's what I've been like, it was once female that signed up for my course.

1771
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:04,400
Her name was Sheena.

1772
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:05,920
Sheena took it very seriously.

1773
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:11,600
Like, and I had to go to do a game in sport or tournament in South Carolina and they

1774
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,240
needed a game day manager.

1775
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:15,720
She had never done it before.

1776
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:17,960
I said, I got one because that's when she took the course.

1777
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,880
She was like, you know, I thought I wanted to do arena hosting, but I liked the game.

1778
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,480
I liked being able to sit back and just do do do do.

1779
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:25,480
So I suggested her.

1780
01:33:25,480 --> 01:33:27,080
She typed up what she could do.

1781
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:28,080
They hired her.

1782
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,880
She looked for the weekend doing game day entertainment for the first time in a freaking

1783
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,200
HBCU tournament in South Carolina.

1784
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,960
And because she's my protégé, she's my pupil, I'm making sure she, you know, got everything

1785
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,720
they loved her signed up for next year or 2025.

1786
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,680
Like, so it's that type of stuff.

1787
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,840
And I think this is that same type of energy.

1788
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:53,440
This is a platform where people who are knowledgeable and don't even realize they're knowledgeable

1789
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:57,360
will stumble upon this or get suggested this or refer this.

1790
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:01,640
I'm definitely, I'm not going to pay you for it, but I'm definitely going to use your

1791
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,440
episodes to help teach my course.

1792
01:34:04,440 --> 01:34:06,440
Well, you know what?

1793
01:34:06,440 --> 01:34:09,440
I ain't going to pay you for this.

1794
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:10,440
Dang it.

1795
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:14,720
I thought it was a check that came with this.

1796
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:15,720
Yeah.

1797
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,720
A Nike check.

1798
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,880
Bro, I love you, man.

1799
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,160
I appreciate you.

1800
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:24,160
Thanks for the time.

1801
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,160
Thanks for the laughter.

1802
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:26,160
No doubt.

1803
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,680
I'm so educated in the crowd.

1804
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,640
Everything that we do here, we want to entertain.

1805
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:34,160
We want to inform you and we want to inspire you.

1806
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,640
Go out to a game.

1807
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,000
Go enjoy BDOT at WSSU.

1808
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,120
If you're down in Florida, fam you.

1809
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,000
If you're up in Charlotte, he'll be there.

1810
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:45,320
Or are you going to just find him online?

1811
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:46,320
He's everywhere.

1812
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:47,320
Everywhere.

1813
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:48,840
BDOT TV is everywhere.

1814
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:52,720
BD-A-H-T-T-V on all social media platforms.

1815
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:53,720
Come holler at your boy.

1816
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:54,720
All right, man.

1817
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:55,720
We out.

1818
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:56,720
Okay.

1819
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:57,720
Okay.

1820
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:58,720
Bye.

1821
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:06,120
Thanks for watching another episode of On The Jumbotron Podcast with host Christopher

1822
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:07,620
Lee.

1823
01:35:07,620 --> 01:35:11,560
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1824
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,880
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1825
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,440
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1826
01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:23,360
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1827
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,720
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1828
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:35,120
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1829
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:41,120
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1830
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:45,120
How do I end this thing?

1831
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:55,120
How do I get up out of here?

