1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,120 Thanks for joining me on this episode of On the Jumbletron, your VIP ticket that takes 2 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:12,000 you behind the scenes into the world of game day entertainment. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Get ready for interesting stories, creative tips, and laugh at the most unbelievable I 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,920 kid you not moments from the experts who make it all happen. 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,720 It's a great conversation, so sit back and enjoy this episode of On the Jumbletron. 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Hey y'all, thank you for joining me again here on the Jumbletron. 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,240 My name is Christopher Lee and I'm so excited and thankful that you have joined us today 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,280 for another episode. 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Today we have Cameron Hughes on the show with us today. 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:46,720 If you haven't heard of seeing Cameron Hughes, you've been under a rock, you have not been 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,000 at any sports arena because that's where he is. 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,520 That's where he lives and that's where he brings so much energy and motivation to the 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,640 people that he inspires. 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:04,280 He's been on ESPN, he's been at the US Open, he's been at countless hockey games and what 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:10,760 he does is he brings the energy, he brings the cheer, he brings the love, and he brings 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,520 warmth to everybody he meets. 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,160 So I'm going to bring him in. 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,960 Cameron, are you with us? 19 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:20,320 I'm here and I'm ready to bring the cheer. 20 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:25,520 Because anytime someone says the word jumbletron, I get excited, it means we're connecting, we're 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,160 having fun, we're raising some of the energy. 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,160 That's what it's all about. 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,880 I appreciate the great intro. 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,920 I think what you said hits me hard in a funny way because it's like, you go to a game and 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880 the next day you're kind of over here with someone talking to a coffee shop, you're like, 26 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,880 did you see that guy last night? 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,160 And then I was like, that guy? 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,040 So I think I should have just been called that guy, Chris. 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,760 You just be called that guy? 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,160 Yeah, yeah, that guy. 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,520 That's funny, man. 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,720 It's been a heck of a run, my friend. 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,840 It has been. 34 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,680 And I've read into your story. 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,760 I've watched videos. 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,440 I've listened to different things about you. 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,800 And I'm going to say that this is probably your calling. 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,280 This is probably what you should have been doing. 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:11,400 But the thing is, when you were doing this in your mother's living room, with your sister, 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,880 and making her happy and different things like that, I don't know if you realized at 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,400 them that you were just setting yourself up for your future self. 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Well, yeah, I mean, it's a really important thing. 43 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,520 I mean, anyone who's a parent, you want to inspire your kids to believe in themselves 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,520 ultimately, right? 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,400 I mean, we could just go right to it. 46 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,880 And as a kid, I used to do this crazy dance in our living room. 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,840 And I don't know if it was good or bad or funny or crazy, but I did it. 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,480 And my family and my mom specifically rewarded me for, you know, she gave me this confidence 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,840 I needed. 50 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:50,280 And the song was You Can't Hurry Love by Phil Collins, which was a weird song, but whatever. 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,800 And that's the first time I remember the concept of the power of cheer Chris, where you believe 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,800 in someone. 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,560 And that was in me. 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,320 And it just, you know, it kept adding up, it kept adding up. 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,440 And I got confidence in high school, I got confidence in university. 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,000 I was a mascot. 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,480 And then, you know, the first time I got up at hockey game, it's like, you could really 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,040 trace it back to that time I danced in my living room, where I was like, I want everyone 59 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,040 to have fun. 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,400 So I'm going to get up and do something. 61 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,400 Right. 62 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,600 We've all been to the wedding. 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,800 We've all been to the corporate event. 64 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,800 We've all been to the stadium. 65 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,040 We're like waiting for something to happen. 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,720 And you know, I don't know how 20 years, however many years later, that was me at a hockey 67 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,600 game and it sparked my career. 68 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:39,720 So it's, it's ironic and crazy how things that we do when we're little kids, if we continue 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:46,160 those things, we will be able to master those things and then be able to be even probably 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,560 even more successful in the future where we are living now. 71 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,040 So thanks for those cheers, mom. 72 00:03:54,040 --> 00:04:01,240 So I'm, I'm a, I'm a word guy and some people have called me like a wordsmith and I like 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,480 doing acronyms to words and stuff like that. 74 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,880 And as I was getting ready to talk to you, Cameron, I, I came up with cheer, right? 75 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,280 You know, because that's what you do. 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,280 That's who you are. 77 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Right. 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,840 So the C H E E R, the cheer. 79 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:25,360 So from that, I came back with capturing hearts, the energy and the emotions in real time. 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,320 Capturing heart, emotion and what the other one capturing hearts, right? 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,240 Energy, emotions and real time. 82 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Well, that's powerful, man. 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,400 That's basically what cheer is. 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,400 That's basically what you're doing when you're out and you're seeing the people and you're 85 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,280 engaging with them. 86 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:44,280 You are doing that. 87 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:46,280 You're capturing their hearts. 88 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,280 You're seeing the energy. 89 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:52,280 You're living off the emotion and you're doing all this in real time. 90 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:54,400 And I mean, and that's what you do. 91 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,400 That's what you do. 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:01,480 That's what, when I was watching the video, when, you know, when I go to the arenas and 93 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,320 you know, I see things happening. 94 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:10,920 That's what is going on and every video that I have seen you in, people are smiling. 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,920 People are up. 96 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,920 People are clapping. 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,260 People are enjoying themselves. 98 00:05:14,260 --> 00:05:15,260 And that's what I feel. 99 00:05:15,260 --> 00:05:19,840 I mean, your captioning the hearts, your energy, the emotions in real time. 100 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,840 And that's what I see. 101 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:23,280 That's what I feel. 102 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:24,480 And I'm a drummer, by the way. 103 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,680 I don't know if you know that or not. 104 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,680 No, I didn't know. 105 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:27,680 No, I didn't know. 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Yeah, I'm a drummer and I used to play for the, so we have a little bit in common with 107 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,960 the NBA. 108 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,080 I used to play drums with the Charlotte Bobcats. 109 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,280 Dude, did we meet there when I used to come there? 110 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:39,880 I don't know if we, I don't know. 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,120 I used to come and do the games there at that time. 112 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,120 Yeah, I'm not sure. 113 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,120 I'm not sure. 114 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,120 Right. 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,760 If we did, it was amazing. 116 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,240 And you know, this connection was going to happen regardless. 117 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,240 Yeah. 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,800 So yeah, so I mean, I used to play drums with them. 119 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,200 I still play drums now, but I used to play drums with them on the drum team. 120 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,600 We were called the rhythm cats. 121 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,600 So you can go on YouTube and look at some older videos and stuff like that. 122 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,560 And the rhythm cats drum line with the Charlotte Bobcats then. 123 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:14,960 And so what we did, we performed in the middle of the court and I absolutely enjoyed playing 124 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:21,640 drums and watching other people engage in the moment as we were playing the instruments 125 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,520 and stuff like that, because there were some people that want to play. 126 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,400 There were some people that want to dance. 127 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,040 And then there are some people that just want to just watch and be in awe of what's going 128 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,040 on. 129 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:38,080 But I enjoy playing the drums because I bring all those things that I just talked about 130 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,080 with a cheer. 131 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,920 I mean, I'm capturing their hearts. 132 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,200 I'm seeing their energy. 133 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,320 I'm seeing their emotion and all of it is in real time. 134 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,320 Right. 135 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,520 And the thing is, it's people that are wanting to play and wanting to do things and wanting 136 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,640 to be a part of everything that we're doing. 137 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,480 Well, okay, I've got to read this to you. 138 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,400 A friend of mine just sent me this about 20 minutes ago. 139 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,800 I'm with some music friends in Montreal right now. 140 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,920 I'm going to see their show tonight. 141 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,880 They're performing in the first ever North American show. 142 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:12,200 And he wrote me from a singer-songwriter, said this, people pay to see others believe 143 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,200 in themselves. 144 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Wow. 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,200 Right? 146 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,200 That's rich. 147 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Like. 148 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,200 That's rich. 149 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,400 Either that's the greatest quote or it's sad. 150 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,400 I'm not sure. 151 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,400 I'm kidding. 152 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,400 I'm kidding. 153 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,400 I'm kidding. 154 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,400 I'm kidding. 155 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,280 But it's powerful because, you know, we all have, I think, a bit of artistry in us, a 156 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,480 bit of wanting to put ourselves out there, you know, be the drummer on the court, be 157 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,000 the guy in the crowd, be the mascot. 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:42,400 Like, there's some part of us, all, some part of us, I think, because I've taken the 159 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,880 shyest person in the history of the world and I've got them on a stage somehow. 160 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Right. 161 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Because there's something in us that if the crowd cheers that person on, Julie Mitch, 162 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:58,600 whoever it is, they're like, it unlocks this little twitch, this switch, the spark in them. 163 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,600 Right? 164 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,320 And so when you, when you, when you read that, whoa, listen to it, people pay to see others 165 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,080 believe in themselves. 166 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:11,200 Like you're going to an NBA basketball game to see athletes do something we can't do. 167 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,960 You're going to see you drum. 168 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,960 I can't drum. 169 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,960 You're going to see me dance. 170 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,440 I can't dance, by the way. 171 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:24,600 No, but you're going to see something and feel something that others have gifts for. 172 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,600 Right? 173 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,600 Right. 174 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,920 So you're paying money to see people share their gifts. 175 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Really. 176 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,000 I mean, and so in itself, isn't that a gift? 177 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 You're right. 178 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 You're right. 179 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,400 That is a gift. 180 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:49,480 And it's awesome to see and to really understand that my gift excites other people into living 181 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,000 life and into enjoying life. 182 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,480 I never really thought about that, but that quote is amazing. 183 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,840 Um, man, yeah, I never really thought about that. 184 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,720 You know, that's the funny part is it's like, Oh, well, uh, you know, what's your act? 185 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,400 I'm like, it's not really an act. 186 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Right. 187 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,200 I mean, back to your point of like, you know, being a drummer, there's, there's two parts 188 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,360 to being a drummer, right? 189 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,480 There's the, I'm in a studio and I'm a drummer and I'm behind the scenes. 190 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,560 And then when you go out on the court and NBA game, those fans want you to electrify 191 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:20,560 them. 192 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,680 They want to feel something for those two minutes in that time out. 193 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:26,720 It's like you give them everything you have and you're connecting with the audience to 194 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,920 say, Hey, it's okay to let go more here. 195 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,320 It's okay to cheer on your team. 196 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,960 It's okay to cheer if your friends, it's okay to just be like super president. 197 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:42,200 And then the moment and you know, to be able to do that for someone, you know, it's like 198 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,320 how lucky are we? 199 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,000 First of all, right? 200 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,720 But to be able for you to be able to find that path as well and, and how many times, 201 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,960 you know, people supported you, people didn't support you. 202 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,440 People said no, people said yes, and all those things. 203 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,640 But I always say the more you show up, the more you believe in yourself. 204 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,080 First of all, and secondly, the more the crowd will keep cheering you on because I mean, 205 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,080 I'll look at my Facebook page today at some point and I'll get random comments from people 206 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,080 I've never met. 207 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,760 And if you don't think those matter to me, you're, you're crazy. 208 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:14,760 Of course. 209 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,080 I'll start just your ego. 210 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,320 It's your, it's not just your ego. 211 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,440 It's going, Oh, do I really want to show up this Saturday at that game? 212 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,440 Yeah. 213 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,480 Because I want to make people feel like that person who just sent me a note felt. 214 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,200 And that keeps you going. 215 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,120 And those fans that when you're done, you're set or high fiving you on the concourse, the 216 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,920 fans that are high fiving me when I'm leaving the Falcons game last Sunday. 217 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,680 Like I would, I walked from the arena to the stadium, to my hotel and fans were like, Hey, 218 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:40,680 are you the guy? 219 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:41,680 I'm like, yeah. 220 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:44,400 And, you know, I had some incredible connections with people, right? 221 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Because back to what you said with the cheer, you know, open it, you know, opening hearts, 222 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,440 like, is that what we're doing? 223 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,760 And that's what we're doing. 224 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,800 And we want to be able to connect with people, to make them feel something inside of them 225 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,800 that they may not be able to ever experience. 226 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,120 It was a tournament that was happening in Charlotte and my buddies and I, we all got 227 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:11,120 together and we went outside the arena and we just started playing again. 228 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,720 And I remember seeing a guy off in the corner. 229 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,560 And I mean, he was like, he was dancing a little bit, but he was like a little shy. 230 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:22,160 And he was like, you know, air drumming, you know, there's always air drummers everywhere. 231 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,760 And I was like, I saw him over there and I motioned him over to us and he was like, no, 232 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:28,760 no, no, no. 233 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,960 He was like, just, just come on over. 234 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,840 And he came over and he was like, I really don't know what I'm doing. 235 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,040 I really don't know what I'm doing. 236 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,920 I'm like, you're cool, man. 237 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,400 Just sit down. 238 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Just play on two and four and four. 239 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,920 One, two, three, four, one, two. 240 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,000 I see you then three, four, one, two. 241 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:53,560 And he started playing and then the guys and everybody else who started playing with him 242 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:58,440 and he had the biggest joy, the biggest smile on his face. 243 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,480 And he was just so excited. 244 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,560 And you know, and after we finished that, you know, that little impromptu jam session, 245 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:09,920 he was like, man, I've always wanted to just sit down and play. 246 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:16,400 I've always wanted to just play with buckets and, you know, enjoy this type of life and 247 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,400 stuff like that. 248 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,400 And thank you for it. 249 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,000 And he just came saying, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 250 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,800 He put a nice big tip in the bucket. 251 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,800 I do remember that. 252 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,800 I do remember that. 253 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,800 That's good. 254 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:33,640 He was just so excited about, I guess, living a dream and living out something in life. 255 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Right. 256 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,040 You know, to me, it's normal because this is what I do. 257 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:44,360 But to him, it is just something that was just out of his normal, I guess, area of life 258 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:50,600 and just something that he just wanted to participate in and to do. 259 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,120 And we were able to give him that. 260 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,240 We were able to give him joy. 261 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,880 We were able to give him a story that he can go back and tell his family. 262 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,760 We were able to give him a memory that he can hold on to for the rest of his life. 263 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,560 And Cameron, that's what you do. 264 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:05,920 And that's how you feel. 265 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,960 Cause like back in high school, you were not part of the team. 266 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,600 You didn't make the team, but now you're like on the court with these professionals. 267 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,400 No, I mean, I didn't make the big team. 268 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,400 And, you know, my old joke is I got cut from my high school basketball team, but I made 269 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,120 it to the NBA, right? 270 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,000 So you, you and Michael Jordan have something in common because he was cut and look at you 271 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,880 and look at him and y'all have been on the same court together. 272 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,480 We get to define how we make it, right? 273 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,760 I think that's the other thing in terms of like how we look at success. 274 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,400 And, you know, I've been with these two musical artists that are performing in North America 275 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,120 the first time and they're not coming here to perform at MSG and big stadiums and not 276 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,680 looking at their careers to success. 277 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:51,280 They wake up every day getting to play music for a living and that's success. 278 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,360 I get to wake up every day to find and, you know, sometimes you're frustrated because 279 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,480 you want to like figure out more ways to bring cheer or whatever it is you're doing. 280 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Of course, you wish it was easier sometimes, but other than that, knowing that when you 281 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,400 wake up each day, what your path is and what your purpose is and what your talents that 282 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,400 you're sharing are. 283 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,400 I mean, magic. 284 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,400 I mean, it is magic. 285 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:20,360 And it's like, I appreciate what you said in terms of like, I don't, I don't know if 286 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,520 it was like luck and, you know, I think it was, I think there was luck in the right place 287 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,560 at the right time that my friend asked me to go to that game. 288 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,240 Then I got up that night. 289 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,680 But I don't believe it's like, I do believe I was meant to do it. 290 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,680 I do. 291 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,880 You know, whatever you want to call that in life, I believe that, you know, every time 292 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,960 I go to an event like I'm grateful if you're not, don't show up. 293 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,600 But it's like I was meant to be there to do that. 294 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,840 In your book, the king of cheer, that's what you said. 295 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,400 I mean, you have to show up. 296 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,640 You have to get up. 297 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,800 And you also have to follow up. 298 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,800 January 9th, 1994. 299 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,880 There's 20 feet of snow, but of course it's Canadians. 300 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,320 We still go to the game. 301 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Senators are playing the Winnipeg Jets. 302 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,080 First period, second period, boring, nothing happens. 303 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,320 Third period, I'm upset that nobody is cheering or having fun. 304 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Something is boiling in me. 305 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,600 I look at my buddy, he's like, please don't. 306 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,680 And I get up on a chair in front of 10,500 total strangers. 307 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:29,880 True story. 308 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,400 And I start to do this. 309 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,160 And they're all looking at me like you are, like get some medical help, pal. 310 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:45,000 But in that moment in life where you take off your masks, that night, January 9th, 1994, 311 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,920 I changed my life because I took off all my masks. 312 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:57,520 But when you do get up there and you do take those chances in life, it's incredible how 313 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,120 people will support you. 314 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Good for you for taking that chance. 315 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Good for you for just going forward a little bit because that night, my friends, I just 316 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,480 went for it. 317 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:17,600 And the reason I've had this accidental career performing at 1,365 sporting events in 10 318 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:23,240 countries for 18 million people is not because of that moment in our life we decided to get 319 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,720 up that first time. 320 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,400 It's what we do. 321 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,560 In your book, The King of Cheer, that's what you said. 322 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:38,160 I mean, you have to show up, you have to get up, and you also have to follow up. 323 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,160 Well the follow up is an interesting one too, but I mean how many times have you not want 324 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,240 to, anyone listening, how many times have you not want to show up for a day at work? 325 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,320 Of course, you're just not feeling it. 326 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,400 You're tired, you're anxious, you're whatever in your life. 327 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Well when we have it as entertainers, it sucks, right? 328 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,800 Because you're going to give your heart to try to open other people's hearts and you're 329 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,800 not even feeling it. 330 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,680 And you're like, okay, what do I have to do to get in the zone to mentally prepare myself 331 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:11,160 to be able to give that energy and you got to take deep sometimes, right? 332 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,680 Or what happens as well when the crowd's not feeling it? 333 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,200 That's the worst. 334 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,680 When you're feeling it, when you're like, oh yeah, I can't wait for tonight, you get 335 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,440 there, you're ready to crush it and you get up and the crowd's just like, yeah, that's 336 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,400 the worst. 337 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:32,160 So my get up song, like when I was at the arena and if I was having a down day or whatever, 338 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,120 I would use to put on a, what is it, House of Pain, Jump Around. 339 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:42,880 And I mean, just the beat on that song and you just get me going and I mean, I got the 340 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,320 Cameron hands right now. 341 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,720 I got the Cameron spirit, you know, I feel like doing all this stuff. 342 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:54,600 I mean, it was just getting into the rhythm and the emotion to be able to go out and perform 343 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,720 because you don't want to give people a lackluster experience. 344 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,960 I mean, when they look up on that jumbotron and they see you performing and stuff like 345 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,280 that, your energy is just going through the screen. 346 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:13,960 It's just going through and it makes people like, ah, yes, there's somebody out there 347 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:20,920 that is just alive and full of emotion and just want to just go and then you grab the 348 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:21,920 other people with you. 349 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,400 I mean, it's just amazing. 350 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,760 That song does it for me. 351 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,000 Is there a song that, you know, just gets you going? 352 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,080 Well, I look, I mean, when I perform in a stadium, I think it's like Money Money by 353 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,920 Billy Idol I'd use that song more than any other song because it gets the crowd going 354 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,920 and the yeah, yeah. 355 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,640 You know, I love like a good crazy strike it up. 356 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:47,200 Everybody dance now, bust a move like all the old school songs that, you know, that, 357 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:52,480 you know, came out in stadiums and jock jams and all those weird like CDs back in the day 358 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,720 are still go to songs in stadiums because they work really well. 359 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,040 They immediately get your attention, right? 360 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,040 Right. 361 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,800 So yeah, any song like that when I hear it playing like anywhere, I'm like, oh, look 362 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,800 out. 363 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:12,400 So like when you sit next to somebody at the arena, you enter the stadium, you're just 364 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,640 a regular guy, regular fan and you sit down. 365 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,800 Do you, do you talk to the people? 366 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,640 Do you let them know what's about to happen? 367 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:26,880 Or do you just want everything to be impromptu, spirit of the moment and, you know, and in 368 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,880 real time? 369 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,360 Take me through a story or something like that. 370 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:32,000 Well, I'll give you a good example. 371 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,480 This past weekend I did a golf event and I sat down and I didn't say a word to the guy 372 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,480 next to me. 373 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,480 Nothing. 374 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,480 I don't even think I looked at him. 375 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,480 Right. 376 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,480 Just like I was intense. 377 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,520 I was like in my getting in the zone, I was like ready to go. 378 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,720 And then you watch the video and it's like guys kind of like, what? 379 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,360 And then, you know, it's pretty fun. 380 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:56,080 I think those moments are funny because I knew I didn't have a lot of time to wait for 381 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,720 the hit, you know, when it was coming up. 382 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,240 So there's no, there's no point in becoming best friends with the guy next to you. 383 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,760 And then I went to Atlanta, I did a Falcons game on Sunday and I befriended the two guys 384 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,760 next to me. 385 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:12,840 Terrence and his buddy, then Terrence was a really nice guy, a music producer and he 386 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,360 ended up, I ended up sitting in the middle of them because there was an empty seat and 387 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:21,080 they ended up filming my, both of my hits and I gave them some swag and, and they, what 388 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,280 happened there is they gave me energy because there was a long wait before I performed. 389 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,480 And we actually gave each other energy, right? 390 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,360 Like because I was like, look, I hope you guys don't mind. 391 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:31,360 I'm going to do this hit. 392 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:32,920 I'm going to do this bit. 393 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,560 And that made me put me in the right state, right? 394 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,440 I was already in the right state at the golf event. 395 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,440 I was ready to go. 396 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,440 I knew it was coming up fast. 397 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,440 Well, let's go. 398 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,360 So, you know, I also had situations where the person next to you know, I'm holding 399 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:49,600 a big bag of popcorn and I'm like, you mind if I throw this to like, no, please don't. 400 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,600 And then you get up and they're like, no, throw it on me. 401 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Throw it on me. 402 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,600 You know what I mean? 403 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,720 What's your, because they see you on that. 404 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Jumbotron. 405 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Oh my God. 406 00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Never been asked that. 407 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:00,720 What a great question. 408 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,640 I like trying to find questions that you've never been asked. 409 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,920 In case you missed it, it's an OTG replay. 410 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,160 Brought to you by Fun360CAM. 411 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,560 I want you to think of someone in your life. 412 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,560 You haven't been in touch with them in a while. 413 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,440 I want you to think of someone in your life that you know needs your support. 414 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:24,800 And I want you to think of their smile, their energy, their heart, being more full because 415 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,560 you took the time to send them a text to make a video for them. 416 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,160 Show off, call them, FaceTime, something. 417 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Imagine if we cheered on our friends, our family, our colleagues, like we do our favorite 418 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,760 athlete, our favorite sports team. 419 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,480 I'm not suggesting you go out finding your brother's accounting firm, paint your face, 420 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,200 make a sign, hey Dan, you're killing it with those numbers in Q4, you're killing it. 421 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:58,280 What I'm suggesting is to make simple, straightforward, consistent action towards being there for others. 422 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,280 Sometimes the simplest things in life are the hardest, right? 423 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Like I guarantee you that you will never regret making that connection, being more available 424 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,960 and sending that cheer to someone. 425 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,000 And I guarantee you that person receiving it will be incredibly great change. 426 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:23,960 If you missed it, brought to you by Fun360Can, smile, spin, share. 427 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,560 How many Jumbotons do you think you've been on? 428 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Oh my God, never been asked that. 429 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,560 What a great question. 430 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,880 Well, I like trying to find questions that you've never been asked or anybody's been 431 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,880 asked before. 432 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,880 Never been asked that. 433 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,880 I mean, hundreds, right? 434 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,480 But back in the day when I started, like there was no Jumbotron at the arena I was performing 435 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,600 at. 436 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,280 That's how long I've been doing it. 437 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:53,600 And then, you know, and then I became, Jumbotron started to happen in the mid to late 90s, like 438 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,480 96 around. 439 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,280 And I didn't used to worry about the Jumbotron. 440 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,440 It was just more like to find an authentic moment, create that. 441 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,840 And then now it's like, because of the Jumbotron, the way you can set up so many different moments, 442 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,760 it's your best friend in that sense. 443 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,200 But at the same time, you know, the irony for me is you still want, you don't really want 444 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,120 people to watch the Jumbotron. 445 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:20,960 You want them to watch you or the game, but the Jumbotron elevates what everyone does. 446 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,200 So you embrace it, right? 447 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,400 And look, I mean, you know, then you can go, you start your one hit in the center of the 448 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,880 arena, then you go to the other side, well, they've seen you on the Jumbotron. 449 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,160 So they're like, they're excited now, right? 450 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,320 And I think that that amplifies the energy that I can bring because they're like, oh 451 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,680 my God, we just saw you on TV. 452 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,400 So, ah, you know, right? 453 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,560 So people get fired up. 454 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,680 So what was the first Jumbotron you're on? 455 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,680 Mighty, mighty. 456 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,680 Oh, wow. 457 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:55,800 I think it was in Anaheim at a Ducks game, a hockey game, the Mighty Ducks in 1996. 458 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,800 And that hit, I did it for free. 459 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,720 I showed up on my own, brought my own t-shirts. 460 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,280 That hit ended up number three highlight of the week on ESPN. 461 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,680 And that's how my friend, my friends back home were like, I was just going down to see 462 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,320 if it worked in other stadiums. 463 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,320 And my friends back home were like, is everything okay? 464 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,120 I'm like, yeah, everything's fine. 465 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,920 Everything's really good, right? 466 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,920 It worked. 467 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,200 A crowd is a crowd is a crowd. 468 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,880 I mean, that's the other big thing I've learned is like, what's the difference between a crowd 469 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,760 in New York City and St. Louis or Montreal, Canada? 470 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,120 It's like, well, there's an attitude in some of the different cities, but in general, they 471 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:36,840 all want the same spontaneous human interaction, right? 472 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Go look at the top 50 Jumbotron moments of all time. 473 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,360 They all have the same formula. 474 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:43,360 Surprise. 475 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:44,620 Wow. 476 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:45,960 I wish I could have done that. 477 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,280 I wish I could have been a part of that. 478 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,280 And then move me. 479 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Maybe my next book is how to get on the Jumbotron. 480 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,200 Because I think you are successful in that. 481 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,440 And that book is going to be the New York Times bestseller. 482 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,880 It's almost like they're living through you while they're watching you up on the screen 483 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,480 with all their energy and everything else that you're bringing. 484 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,640 But same with the drum line, by the way, if I could go back like, you can imagine how 485 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:14,280 many, how many entertainment teams and people and musicians and drummers and artists I've 486 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,560 met over the years that perform in NBA, NHL, all these things. 487 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:24,360 They're channeling all of you, everyone, because everyone brings a unique skill set to the experience. 488 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:29,760 And I think that's the beauty of the sports entertainment world is you got you as a drummer, 489 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,080 we got the dancers, we got the hip hop, we got the back break dancers and all those different 490 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,080 things. 491 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,080 Right. 492 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,080 Back to the point of like, we want to watch people do stuff we can't do. 493 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,880 I mean, I don't even have enough hands. 494 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,800 I probably have to use drumsticks, whatever. 495 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,440 I can't count how many people have come up to me after a gig, after a set, whatever. 496 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,440 Man, I wish I could play drums. 497 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,180 I wish I could do what you do. 498 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:54,960 You look like you're having so much fun. 499 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,960 100%. 500 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,680 And it's so, so easy for you. 501 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,080 And I'm like, I'm just, I'm just being me. 502 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480 I'm just doing things that are natural. 503 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,040 And you know, the God given the ability that I have and I just enjoy what I do. 504 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,480 And but it's almost like they're, they're trying to live through me. 505 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,480 Yeah. 506 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,480 What do you say to people? 507 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,360 Something that I just say to them is like, you can do it too. 508 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:16,360 Yeah. 509 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:19,040 I mean, you, you may not be as, as great as Buddy Rich. 510 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,600 You may not be as great as whomever, you know, Phil Collins or whomever drummer that you 511 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,560 like, may not be as, as, as good as them, but you can at least try. 512 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,560 You can at least do something. 513 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,160 I mean, and play. 514 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:37,120 There's a young drummer that lives behind me and I constantly hear her practicing. 515 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:42,400 I constantly hear her playing drums and then, you know, improving her craft. 516 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,040 And I'm like, she has to start somewhere. 517 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,040 Right. 518 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,840 And I had to start on that day, you know, in Ottawa, you know, cheering because the 519 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:57,040 crowd was dead and all the thing you did was just stand up and you just started cheering. 520 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Right. 521 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,040 And I mean, and here you are now everywhere. 522 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,040 Let's pivot to your book. 523 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:07,160 That moment you start something happens in us. 524 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,160 So beautiful friends. 525 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,480 It's Tuesday and thinking a lot. 526 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,480 You watch a lot of videos. 527 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,000 We talk a lot about being happy, you know, and I'm happy. 528 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,280 I'm happy that tomorrow I get to launch my audio book. 529 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,160 But what it really makes me feel is alive. 530 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,160 And what I put into the book is wanting people to feel alive, to feel something, to feel 531 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,080 emotional, to be moved, not just happy. 532 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,080 You're happy. 533 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,520 You may be listening to it, but you're alive because you experienced it. 534 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,680 That's that's it. 535 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,680 Life. 536 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,680 Trust me. 537 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,520 Your crowd is ready to cheer you on. 538 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,880 Thank you for being part of the best share of my life. 539 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:55,600 So let's turn to your book, King of Cheer. 540 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,520 I've enjoyed listening to the audio book of that. 541 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,720 What inspired that book and how did you find time to write everything? 542 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Well, probably a couple of things. 543 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,080 The fact, the first thing is I felt like I had some stories that that were going to inspire 544 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,080 people. 545 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:17,520 And I felt that it was a challenge for someone with my lack of attention and my how many 546 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,800 times in my papers in high school and university were marked in red. 547 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,040 And I knew I knew I wanted to do it while I was still performing because that was kind 548 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,320 of my marketing outlet. 549 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,920 And then this thing called COVID hit so I couldn't really do it, but whatever. 550 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,760 And you know what, man, I was traveling and I would write in a journal. 551 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,040 I would write in a physical journal in the early days. 552 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:46,600 And I would keep every scrap paper from tickets to, you know, articles to, you know, lanyards. 553 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880 And it all started to add up when I threw it against the wall. 554 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,520 All these short stories of like how, you know, different threads came about. 555 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,520 Right. 556 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560 And I, you know, dug deep. 557 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,000 It was not easy. 558 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,800 It's the hardest thing I've done. 559 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,400 Most rewarding thing I've ever done. 560 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,120 I mean, the moment you get your book for the first time from, you know, when it's sent 561 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,200 to you for approval. 562 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,840 I remember opening it in public and then I went and opened it again in the car and I 563 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,960 started like balling my eyes out. 564 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,600 Like I couldn't stop. 565 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,760 I mean, that's, that's similar to my story too. 566 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,200 I've written a book. 567 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:29,040 I wrote it, you know, during COVID it's called the American Dream Band. 568 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,880 And it's about teenagers that started a garage band and they go through life and they go 569 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,640 through some challenges. 570 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,520 So I understand what you're saying about writing a book. 571 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,920 I understand what you're saying about, you know, showing up and being there and challenging 572 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320 yourself to do better. 573 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,680 Like how many people do we know, and this isn't a knock on anyone, but how many people 574 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,920 do we know and say, Oh, I want to write a book or I want to learn the drums or I want 575 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,840 to do this, but they don't start. 576 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,600 And I said this to a friend of mine recently. 577 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,680 I said, he's like, Oh, I want to get back into music. 578 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,840 I want to do this. 579 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,520 And I looked at him and I said, Will, give me a reason to cheer for you. 580 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,480 Oh, and he's, and he said it just knocked him on his ass. 581 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,480 Yeah. 582 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,480 Give me a reason to cheer for you. 583 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,480 That's tight. 584 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,480 It hit him, right? 585 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,720 I mean, look, and like I said, I'm not knocking anyone. 586 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,200 He says, Oh, I want to write a book and then hasn't started, but you got to start. 587 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,200 You got to open that. 588 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,200 Everyone asked me, well, how did you do it? 589 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,600 I said, I opened a document like literally that's how I started. 590 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Right. 591 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,160 And then I took everything I've ever done and I put it on tables and I started to get 592 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,960 inspired. 593 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:41,640 And I think it's, um, that moment you start, something happens in you and it us physically, 594 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:48,200 emotionally, mentally, but you know, the, the, the universe is like saying, you know, 595 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,040 Hey, today, what are you doing? 596 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,440 What are you doing to move this forward? 597 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,440 You know what I mean? 598 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,440 Hey, Chris. 599 00:30:53,440 --> 00:31:00,240 And what you realize and what I realize is the universe wants it to, right? 600 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,760 They need some inspiration. 601 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,480 They need some encouragement. 602 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,960 They need what you're putting out to make their life feel better. 603 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,920 I mean, there may be somebody at the game that has just, you know, had a bad day at 604 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:19,040 work and, you know, got a free ticket from somebody and they are, there's just there, 605 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,280 but that person may be sitting next to you. 606 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:28,080 And when you start dancing and clapping and energizing the room, you make their whole 607 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,080 day. 608 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,840 Right. 609 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,560 And that's not even a memory of what happened before because they created new memories because 610 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,200 what you're doing. 611 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Yeah. 612 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,400 And you never know who's going to hit and how, right? 613 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,680 I mean, that's the beautiful thing of, of the, that creative process. 614 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,920 And I was at an event and a guy put his arm on my back and my shoulder. 615 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,040 I sat down and he goes, Cam, I just want to let you know, I read your book and really 616 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,040 enjoyed it. 617 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,320 And he, he referenced something emotional and I'm like, I'm performing. 618 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,880 And I'm like, teary-eyed, like, I'm like, whoa, I'm not right now. 619 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,160 But then it was also like, what else is that moment going to happen where I don't know 620 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:16,160 their name, but when they could like give you a cheer back for committing to it, you 621 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,160 know, 622 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,960 And you, you kind of spark that into other people. 623 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:26,640 It's like, if, if Christopher can write a book, if Cameron can write a book, I can write 624 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,640 a book. 625 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,960 If Cameron can get up and start dancing, I can get up and start dancing. 626 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:40,360 I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's almost like a fuel to a fire that's already inside of 627 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:46,120 them and you just, they just need the match to, to, to make it burn and, and to, you know, 628 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,760 to ignite them to, you know, be that, that creative spark so they can go out and start 629 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,800 doing the things that they are born and called to do. 630 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,600 Just commit to it and finish it. 631 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,600 Right. 632 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,080 And I'm, I'm the, I could sit here and list a bunch of things. 633 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:06,120 I've, I've started and haven't finished, but for the most part, the major things in my 634 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,360 life I have, and I'm working on a couple other ones that I don't talk about because I'm not 635 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,800 going to talk about them until I finish them. 636 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,440 And it's like, and I know that once I do, people will go, oh, that makes sense that 637 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,440 that's what you're doing. 638 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,120 And they'll support you in the way they have before because you put yourself out there, 639 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,640 which is what we're talking about. 640 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:32,280 So many creative people I know, they're just afraid to like put their art on Instagram. 641 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,560 They're waiting for it to be perfect. 642 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,760 Like when I recorded my audio book, I was like, oh no, I made all these mistakes and 643 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,800 I'm like, get over yourself. 644 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,800 So what? 645 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,200 It was perfect at the time, you know? 646 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,440 And if people are going to knock me because there's some mistakes in my book, will you 647 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,600 try writing a book during a pandemic? 648 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:59,160 And but the thing is, you did it and you accomplished it and it's out in the atmosphere. 649 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,400 And it's now a legacy that you're leaving for your family, for whomever, so they can 650 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,280 pull back on and listen to that audio book, right? 651 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Or they can read the actual book and it's something they can put up be put on the shelf 652 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,600 or it can be a Christmas present or a birthday present to somebody. 653 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:21,280 And the thing is, you are inspiring the people that you don't even know who's going to be 654 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,960 inspired from, but it's your life story. 655 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:31,280 And because your story is now out there, it's consumable for everybody. 656 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,160 And you're still putting the cheer out there. 657 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,080 And I've been listening to the audio book and the cheer that you give is the cheer that 658 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,080 you get. 659 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,400 That hit me. 660 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,840 Is there a story or something that, you know, one of your craziest story or that had to 661 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,560 be a crazy story, but something that you have dealt with in your life that it just turned 662 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,560 your mind around? 663 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,120 It's kind of a non-sports story, but not really because it all adds up. 664 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:08,160 But I was at a movie premiere in Los Angeles, I don't know, 14, 15 years ago. 665 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,120 And my friends were involved in the movie. 666 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,080 And at the end of the night, they were hanging out at the reception. 667 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,040 And one of our friends said, Hey, do you want to go to the after party? 668 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,040 And we're like, Yeah, sure. 669 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,040 Where is it? 670 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,360 And they're like, Oh, it's up on the top of the hills and Beverly Hills in LA. 671 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,880 And turns out we're driving up there in our little Ford Focus, you know, our little car 672 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,040 and it's Prince's house. 673 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,040 Prince? 674 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,040 Prince. 675 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,040 Purple, right? 676 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,040 Prince? 677 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,040 Yeah, that Prince. 678 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,040 What? 679 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,400 We pull up and you know, there's, you can imagine the house and the cars in front and we get 680 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,520 to the door and our name was at the door. 681 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,760 And it was only the people from the movie that were in there. 682 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,760 I was sister heard of the traffic pets part two. 683 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,600 And there was 25 people there. 684 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,640 The only other person I knew there were Blair Underwood, the actor. 685 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,360 And then a bunch of producers that I knew we knew. 686 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,320 And then Prince came out like about half fire 45 minutes later and he was like, it was just 687 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:08,240 like, it was like, and then he motions to get everyone downstairs in his, his studio. 688 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:09,240 We think he's going to play. 689 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:14,240 And we're like, no, he brings us into the DJ room where he has a dance floor and DJs. 690 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:19,120 And now all his beautiful girls come down and we're dancing all night and he told me 691 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,120 to take it a bit easy. 692 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,960 I was a little crazy on the dance floor for real. 693 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,080 And you know, it's just this moment where I made you realize like, stay yes to going 694 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,440 to the movie premiere to support your friend. 695 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,520 And it's not like, oh, well, like you too could end up at Prince's house or Bruce Springsteen's. 696 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:43,320 But the point is, you know, if you look at the deep part of that, it's like support your 697 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,560 friends because you never know where all any of us is going to lead show up, show up for 698 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,240 each other, the people that support you. 699 00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:50,680 You know what I mean? 700 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,080 And that's what you were doing. 701 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,720 You were there just supporting your friend. 702 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:55,720 Yeah. 703 00:36:55,720 --> 00:37:01,160 I wasn't there because I thought I was going to end up at Prince's house in a million years. 704 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,400 As your friend was living his dream with the movie, you were just there, carrying your 705 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,640 friend on supporting him and you end up at Prince's house. 706 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,680 Imagine like I get off this with you and I've got a note from someone who is a good friend 707 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,920 who says, Hey, I saw your post the other day. 708 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,680 So I want to tell you how proud I am of you. 709 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Right. 710 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,880 How am I going to feel like amazing, right? 711 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,480 I'll feel great because I'll come off this and I'll feel energized. 712 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,480 We've had a good chat. 713 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,360 But like, why don't we think of the result of what that is going to look like that quote 714 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,360 unquote, sure. 715 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,360 Right. 716 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,360 Right. 717 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,800 I sent a note to, I get it all, I get it from strangers. 718 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,280 So if I'm getting it from strangers, you know, I sent a note to the head producer, the Falcons 719 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,840 today because she has a big game tonight. 720 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,840 I know she's tired. 721 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,600 I said this morning, Hey, you got this. 722 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,360 You're going to have an amazing show tonight. 723 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,240 And she writes me, Oh, you have no idea. 724 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:51,240 Perfect timing. 725 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,240 Thanks for saying that. 726 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,240 Right. 727 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:59,920 So much, so many ways we can keep, but we can't, we do it, but we can't not, we can't 728 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:00,920 overthink it. 729 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,320 And it's like that night I got up, Christopher, I didn't overthink it. 730 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,920 I didn't ask for permission. 731 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,400 I just went for it. 732 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,480 That's my mission. 733 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,920 You know, it's worked for you. 734 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,280 I mean, how many T-shirts have you tossed out over the years? 735 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:20,040 I mean, uh, 1500 events times still like a lot, 20,000 probably. 736 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,120 I don't have a shoulder left. 737 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,840 The shoulders gone. 738 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,840 I don't know. 739 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,840 Yeah. 740 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,440 And I, oh, I was, by the way, I refuse to use T-shirt gun. 741 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,440 No way. 742 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,400 No, you, you, you got the guns. 743 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,240 I mean, you, you got the guns right here. 744 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:34,560 You got the guns. 745 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,760 So I don't know if anybody's ever done this before to you during the interview, but I 746 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,080 just want to participate into what you do and celebrate you. 747 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,400 I mean, you've been on ESPN before doing this, right? 748 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,400 And you know, they put you on, you know, you say that you went to the cast. 749 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,680 There's a color and you did what you needed to do there. 750 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,600 I'm pretty sure you've been on the kiss cam before. 751 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,600 Blow kisses to the audience. 752 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,600 It's the last one. 753 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,400 And you're the king's Cameron. 754 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,400 You're the king. 755 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,400 Right? 756 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,400 Right. 757 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,400 Yeah. 758 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,400 King. 759 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,400 Show me that. 760 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Cheers. 761 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,400 Cheers. 762 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,080 Man, my God, you are amazing. 763 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,400 That's the best ending to our podcast I've ever been on. 764 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,400 Little legend. 765 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,400 To do this. 766 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,360 I wanted to do that for you, Cameron. 767 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,080 You're an excellent, excellent guy. 768 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,920 You are so much fun and I enjoy and have enjoyed this interview with you. 769 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,320 I really appreciate your charity. 770 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,320 You're a lovely human. 771 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:39,760 Cameron, here on the Jumbotron, man, we just want to inspire other people and just have 772 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,760 a great time. 773 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,240 I wish we had more time to talk to you. 774 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,680 Can you bring me back during the season? 775 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,680 Of course. 776 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,680 Of course we're going to have you back. 777 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,680 Let's do it. 778 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,520 I can't wait to meet you one day, my friend. 779 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,000 And I want to applaud you. 780 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,280 I want to applaud you. 781 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,280 Thank you. 782 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:02,160 You've done for taking the chance, for standing up, and for showing up, and to following up 783 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,160 with different people. 784 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,160 Thank you. 785 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,160 That's very kind of you, man. 786 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,160 That means a lot. 787 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,160 We have to keep bringing the cheer. 788 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,160 Cheer. 789 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,160 Which stands for what? 790 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,160 Hold on, hold on. 791 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,160 Let me capture this again. 792 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,800 What does cheer stand for? 793 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,000 That means capturing hearts, the energy, and the emotions in real time. 794 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,640 Can't wait to meet you one day, my friend. 795 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,160 You're going to do it. 796 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,560 Cameron, again, thank you for joining us right here on the Jumbotron. 797 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,080 Make sure you go out and get his book. 798 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,720 It's on Amazon, or you can find it on Audible. 799 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,080 Also my book is on Amazon as well. 800 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,440 I'll put links in the description below. 801 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,120 And make sure you like, subscribe, and share this content with other creatives. 802 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,840 We're going to do our best to drop these episodes bi-weekly. 803 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,680 Our next conversation is with Brandon Meyer from Nebraska. 804 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,120 Your home show went up. 805 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,200 I mean, even Travis Hunter was talking about. 806 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,320 So I mean, you guys are doing fun. 807 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,320 That was really cool. 808 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,320 It's not like, man, Coach Prime is watching the drag. 809 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,920 That was one of my top 10 moments today. 810 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,760 I'm like, man, he's not coaching. 811 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,400 He's just looking around, enjoying it. 812 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,400 So that was cool. 813 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,080 That's what we do here on the Jumbotron. 814 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,680 We entertain, we inspire, and we inform. 815 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,360 My name is Christopher Lee. 816 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000 Thank you for joining us right here on the Jumbotron. 817 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:24,760 We'll talk to you soon.