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Thanks for joining me on this episode of On The Jumbotron.

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Your VIP ticket that takes you behind the scenes into the world of game day entertainment.

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Get ready for interesting stories, creative tips, and laugh at the most unbelievable I

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kid you not moments from the experts who make it all happen.

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Today we're chatting with Jed Castro, Senior Associate Athletic Director at Virginia 
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Tech. He'll share some of HokieVision's funniest and most creative features,

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game day tips, and explain Virginia Tech's one-day vacation mantra. It's a great conversation,

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so sit back and enjoy this episode of On The Jumbotron.

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Hello and welcome. I am Chris Bullard and this is On The Jumbotron.

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Today's episode is like gonna be so so fun. One of my great great friends is with me. His name

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is Jed Castro, the man, the myth, the legend, Jed Castro. I'm gonna let him introduce himself

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a little bit. We used to work together at Virginia Tech and this guy has gone through

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so many changes at Virginia Tech, so many things that have happened for him, to him,

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and everything like that. It's just been awesome to see his progress and the things that he's

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done at Virginia Tech. So I'm gonna bring him in right now and here we go. Jed, are you there?

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I am here. What's going on my friend? You know, just trying to get to another day. You know how

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it is. I understand that. I understand that. It's good to see you. It's been a while. Yeah,

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it has been a while, but good to be here. I got excited about the name of the podcast. You know,

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it's a... I don't know a lot of things, but most of the stuff that I do know is,

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has to do with video boards and Jumbotron. So, you know, here I am. First things first,

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video board or Jumbotron? What do you call it? I say video board because here at Virginia Tech,

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Jumbotron is actually a proprietary name. It's Sony's. That's their product. So,

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yep, exactly. So we call it video board. Let's just leave it at that. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha.

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So, how long you been at Virginia Tech? Let's go through that story right fast. So,

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I started working at Virginia Tech in 1999. So, that's, you know, well before many of your

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listeners and your viewers, but I took a little break in the early 2000s, moved to California

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for three years and came back. But so, I've been here for a while. And we, when I first started

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here, I was actually working in football coaches video and we didn't have a video board. We got

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one in 2000. And that first year, we didn't do our own production. And so, we've moved from that,

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you know, not having a video department, having that all come out of football coaches video to

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where we are now. Okay. Okay. And what do you do now? I mean, you, when I was there at Virginia Tech,

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I got there in 2013, left in I think around 2018. And when I was hired, you had one role. Yeah. Yeah.

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A year and a half later, you had another role. Yep. Yep. Two and a half years later, you had

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another role. And then by the time I left, you would interim director. Yeah. So, my official title

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right now is senior associate athletic director for product broadcast and productions.

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It's a mouthful. And that's why I stumbled over it. We need to put that on the jumble,

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Sean, so people can can actually read what that is, because that is a long title, my friend.

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Except we actually need a bigger board to fit that. You can't, you know, you got to

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abbreviate some of it. But so basically, I oversee our in venue productions and our ACC network

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productions. And when I say oversee it really when people ask me what I do, I tell them I go to

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meetings, I send emails. But because we have a pretty good big staff, and they do great work,

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and they do all of the actual work for our productions. And I'm just here to try to help

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them help their jobs be a little bit easier if I can video boards, jumble trunks have gone through

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so many changes over the years. I remember seeing one on a picture. And the video board was like so

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small at Virginia Tech. Yep. By the time I left, it was pretty much taken up the whole what South

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Enzo. Yeah. And it's ridiculous how video boards, jumble trunks, whatever you want to call them,

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have impacted game day. Let's let's talk about that. From where you started, well, just put enough

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the score to what it is now. I mean, when fans come to the game now, it's it's it's part of

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it's almost like it's part of the team. Absolutely. You know, a few years ago, our department here

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that was in charge of the jumbo tron, the video board was called big screens, because you know,

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was the big screen in every arena, not just football. And we changed our our department name

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a few years ago to in venue experience, because it is that the boards are so much part of the

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the game day experience for fans, whether it's, you know, I didn't I want to get another look at

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that play, I need instant replay, I'm in a bad seat, and I can only see what's happening if I

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watch it live. My kid wants to get on the video board or we're giving away free bacon if I dance,

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like our mission at Virginia Tech is to create memorable experiences. And when they come to a

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football game or a basketball game, we want to call we call it a one day vacation. From the moment

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they leave their house, the moment they get back, we want them to come back and say, man, what a

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great day. And then they go to school or to church, or to work in the next day. And they say, check

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out what I did. Or even what we talk about is, you know, hey, remember that game back in 18,

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where we went to Virginia Tech, and we did this and this and this and this. And so that's what,

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you know, to your point, the the video board is part of that experience. And you can look back,

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you know, like I said, when I started here, there wasn't a video board, it was just a score board.

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And then you put one up and really people look at that. Honestly, they're not used to it at first.

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They then they care about it for instant replay and not getting replays up there fast enough.

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And then it's, how come we don't have scores from other games. And, and now, I think, a few years

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ago, when I was traveling with football, we went to Notre Dame before they had built a video board.

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And every after every play, my head would go straight up to the corner of the end zone,

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where there was no video board. But I just instantly went back there going, that was definitely

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first down, or there's no way he caught that. Or how did that happen? What did the guy not

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miss a block? Or what was the deal there? So, and I think one of my favorite things about

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how video boards have changed the game is, I remember a few years ago, when there was a

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guy had a breakaway, we would kick off return, I think it was in the NFL.

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And you could tell he was looking at the video board as he was running down the field to see

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if someone was going to chase him down from behind. Yeah, yeah. And you can see guys do that now.

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I think it's either it's possible to see if there's somebody close to him or maybe just

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to see to see them see themselves maybe start celebration a little bit early if they can.

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And that's wild. I mean, I remember going to Notre Dame and looking up and that it not being a video

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board. Yeah. I'm like, how do they function? How, how does the team, how does the coach,

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you know, function without a video board? How do you entertain a crowd that size without a video

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board? I think they have one now, right? Yeah, definitely. Yeah. They put in, they put a really

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nice one in. It's funny that, you know, there was part of me that was thinking like, how do they,

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how do they have a game atmosphere without it? My one of my thoughts was also, man, how easy must

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their job be? Because they don't have one. Exactly. Now, Virginia Tech. I know there's one at

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football, basketball. Is there one at soccer now? Yeah. Yeah. There's one at soccer, baseball, softball.

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So our soccer stadium is also home to lacrosse. Our basketball arena is also home to volleyball

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and wrestling. And there is a board at swimming as well. But that is not, we don't put live video

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up at the swim, the aquatic center. It's mostly for stats and an intro video, which, you know,

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I know is something you want to get into. Yeah. But so with all those boards and, you know, we were,

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before we started recording, we just, we're just chatting saying, fans just come to the game.

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And, you know, just watch. Right. But they have no idea the amount of planning that they're

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doing. And, you know, just watch. Right. But they have no idea the amount of planning go go into

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that right fast. Yeah. Well, and, you know, the thing is, like I was saying, our job is to entertain

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them. So certainly they don't know what goes into it. And they shouldn't because they should come

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to a game and just enjoy themselves. But like, you know, for every sport, you have multiple

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boards or single boards, you have different sizes for each, each venue. And what you can do with

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each venue as well, like, you know, baseball's board is more tall and skinny, because, you know,

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you've got lineups that are coming up that you want to list them out there. But softball just

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got a new board that's, you know, and you've got things like aspect ratio and, you know, is it,

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you know, tall and thin? Is it, is it wide? What else can you put up there? But, you know, a lot of

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things we have to think about as graphics, starting lineups, instant replays, hype videos, intro videos,

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stats, out of town scores, what are you going to do when, if there's an injury on the field?

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What happens if we, you know, part of what you're, we deal with is what's the image on the, on the

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screen. But also we're working with our marketing teams to figure out what's the mood of the stadium,

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what is the energy in the stadium? Did we just give up a punt return or a block kick? How are

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we going to get the crowd back into it? So, yeah, there's all kinds of things. And you've got,

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you've got content day shoots that are planned months in advance. A lot of times you get one day

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with the team. And it's a long season. I know in the pros, they get multiple content days. They do

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one, because the basketball NBA season is very long. So if you're shooting a video and you ask a guy

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about some TikTok trend on, you know, July 31st, well, by December 1st, that's not a TikTok trend

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anymore. And you don't want to play that video. So that, that I think is an advantage that you have

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in the pros and that you have more access to the team. So in college, you got to be good about

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planning ahead and thinking about how many games you have and what you want to play. And, you know,

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in what scenario you're going to use what certain video and, you know, it's hard when you have people

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that put a lot of time into doing a certain video. And then, you know, it's a defensive video.

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We end up scoring three touchdowns on offense and two on special teams. And now you don't want to

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play that video because it looks like you're rubbing it in the face of the other team because

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you're up for a touchdown. So, you know, it's, it's, it's a lot and it's, it's very intricate and it

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takes a lot of work by a lot of different teams. I remember making a video, spending all week

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making it and it didn't even air. I don't think I've ever felt anything like it, feeling everyone

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in the stadium just jumping in unison and having that atmosphere and that unity between everyone.

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You can hear it from our house. We have not at the game, the house will shake and you can hear it

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pretty much anywhere in Blacksburg. So, I mean, it's awesome. It's definitely my favorite part.

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Everyone's involved and everyone loves it and is screaming out the lyrics. It's, it's the best

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feeling. It's, it's so much fun to have that experience and have that atmosphere at a football

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game. There's nothing like it.

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You know, it's, it's, it's a lot. It's very intricate and it takes a lot of work by a lot of

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different people. That's why I wanted to do this podcast to educate fans, inspire those in the business

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that do this time in and day in and day out month after month. I remember making a video

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and spending all week making it and it didn't even air. Yeah. I mean, that happens a lot. Yeah.

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I was upset, but I mean, the mood in the stadium at the time did not call for that. Yep. So, I mean,

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how do, how do you handle your crowd and your, your people when something like that happens?

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Well, I, you know, that we have, what we try to do is plan for things to be able to be used more

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than once or maybe in different scenarios. So like we had an editor who made a great video this

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past week for our quarter quarterback and it was, you know, quarterback hype video. It was,

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you know, it was a phenomenal video, but we started out the first half and, you know, we

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throw a few incompletions. The offense is kind of stagnant early on. You can't really put that

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video out there because the fans, that's not really what they want to see. He picks it up in the

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second half, but now we also have something else to go to. The good thing is, you know,

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it's a long season when, you know, we expect a lot of great things out of our players and so we'll

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have ample opportunity to play that in the future. But the big thing is understanding that like

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ultimately what's the goal? The goal is to entertain the fans, to get the atmosphere

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as good as it can be and to give people a memorable experience. And so sometimes as much as you can

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try to plan to make your videos versatile, you don't always get the chance to do that. We had a

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situation a few years ago where we actually contracted a shoot with a former player that

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lived outside of the area. We spent a decent amount of money to have a freelancer shoot a video

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with them. We put it together, but it was so specific to the team we were playing, the night

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we were playing them and the situation. And after probably the first quarter, we knew we weren't

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going to be able to get to it. And it was kind of like, I mean, it's tough for the person, you

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know, right in the check, it's tough for the editor that spent hours working on it. And then you've

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got to go back to that former player and say, hey, your video didn't get played.

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And they were at the stadium? Yeah, they came out of town. It wasn't great.

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Wow. Wow. Yeah, I mean, but that happens. Yeah, that happens. And you know, it's almost like

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you can't you don't know what's going to happen on the field. The players don't the coaches don't

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they don't know what's going to happen. Everybody plans. Everybody has an expectation, but you don't

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know what the game is going to be. So you have to have all these other things in the bucket for

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just in case. Yep. So I know that you all are really, really good with fan engagement. What has

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been the best fan engagement video that you guys have done ever during the tech? Well, I will say

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that it probably the thing that is the most impactful that comes to mind right off the bat.

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And it's kind of cool because it it crosses over multiple departments is the the dance for bacon.

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We have a sponsor that sponsors that the prize is free bacon for a year. And

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we there's there's a spot in every game where it's a dance off. And our the fans are into it

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because they want to get bacon. The fans don't you know, aren't necessarily bold enough to dance,

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can still watch somebody dance. The sponsors are happy because they're getting their their name out

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there. And then, you know, our crew is happy because it's just it's that's part of the fun of

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working the live environment. Just trying to find the people are dancing, but also seeing the people

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get excited. And a few years ago, we ran it. It was a football only promotion for a few years.

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They moved it over basketball. We're playing North Carolina a few years ago, we were it was a tight

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game. We weren't playing well down the stretch. We were probably down by four or five points, I

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believe. And the the deal there is that if you miss two shots in a row, everybody gets bacon.

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And I remember that promotion. Yeah. So after the Carolina guy missed the first one, the whole

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crowd was I mean, it was so loud in there. He missed the second one, the place goes crazy.

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There's so much energy now in the in the arena. Our team goes on a run, we end up winning the

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thing in overtime. You know, and that's like that was not necessarily video board specific,

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but we do have graphics to go along with it. You know, the guy missed the first one, we put bacon

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all around the player, we try to zoom in on him, you know, and that that's it's one of those things

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that's cool, because the fans are into it, the sponsor into it marketing is is is happy when

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it's executed well. It's fun for our crew. And, you know, everybody goes home with a free pound

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of bacon, you know, which may be only America only in America, where you're excited about bacon.

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How are you all using the video board jumbotron with AI? Are y'all doing anything with AI now?

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So we haven't done a ton of AI, although there is, you know, I think the thing about AI that you see

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is how it can be used to take care of smaller things to free you up to work on more complicated

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things. But like, there are a lot of companies that that are offering augmented reality, which

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you've seen on the Super Bowl and things like that. And we do have a lot of that there's a company

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we use now that will do 3D animation so we can put a hokey bird head over somebody's face or

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you know, there's you can get a Star Wars package or even like it's it's a lot of fun for Halloween

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and things like that. And so you've got 3D filters, and then you can also put your own 2D filters in

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there as well. We do a variation of the kiss cam, whichever been seen the kiss cam where, you know,

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you want to get people to kiss each other, but you know, kiss the rock and roll band when they

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play you shook me all night long we put the that kiss cam over and we put nice the gene

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Simmons faces on people like that. So that type of stuff is pretty fun. You know, and I think in

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our space what's cool about it is we have we have 12 undergrads that work with us and up to 405060

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production assistants. And when we get them, they get to, you know, they get to, you know,

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production assistants and we get them, they get to innovate and they get the brainstorm and they

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get to say what will be fun and when they can create a fan cam and then see it executed.

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You know, one of the things we started a couple years ago is called the reverse eating cam.

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They love looking for people eating so that they can put them on the board and have them

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run it backwards through. That's so cool. It's super gross. And a lot of times you can hear the

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the groans in the stadium when people are watching it. But but at that moment, man, you have

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lane is what 66,000. I mean, you have those many eyes on your product. And that is what is,

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I don't know, that's what drove me to make content. And I enjoy that. You do the roaming camera,

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like I used to do. And going around the stadium, shooting the fans. I mean, I hear all the time,

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hey, cameraman, put me up there. Hey, cameraman. I mean, the fans live for that. Yeah. And you know,

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I was that's what I was going to say is, if you ask me, the best job that we have here is wireless

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camera. I know you've done it. There's so much energy. You're in this, the stands with the fans.

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But the greatest thing in my opinion, specifically when you're talking about in venue experience

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and the video boards in the arenas is it's an instant gratification. Like, you can see the result

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of your work instantly. It's not like you have to, you know, write a book and wait for it to be

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published and wait for people to read it and then someone to, you know, or even like a video that

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you're putting out on social media. Is it going to get likes or is it going to get retweets? In that

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moment, you know, people will respond to seeing themselves on the board and you can feel that

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instant gratification of like what the work that I did today at this moment made that person's day.

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Yeah. And they're probably going to go talk about it tomorrow and to their friends.

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And that's the thing. And I mean, there's hashtags, video board hashtags, jumbotron.

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And the thing I love about looking at those videos, everybody's smiling.

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Yeah. Everybody is happy. And there's not too many jobs where you can put a video camera in

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somebody's face and they would instantly light up. And that's what I enjoy most about game day

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production and, and, you know, being a camera operator and different things like that is just

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that like you just said, the instant gratification, you see the phones go up, they're trying to record

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themselves. They're going to send it out to all their friends. They're getting that five, 10,

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15 seconds of fame. I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. And I will say like, you know, I've gone to other

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games, baseball, basketball, football, like as a fan. And even though I, you know, I do this for a

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living, if I see that camera guy, I'm kind of like, you know, we were, went to a conference,

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actually a conference of people that do video board work and got to go to a baseball game this

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year. And one of our staff members got on the board and it was like, you know, we're all just like,

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we're fans as well. You know, so you get to experience what those fans get to experience.

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That's awesome. So where do you see video board production, you know, five, 10 years from now,

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you'll probably be retired by then, but where do you see, where do you see it going?

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Well, I mean, that's kind of a hard question in that, like when I started here, there's no way

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that I expected to see what it is now. But I mean, technology so much now, you know, with augmented

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reality, you know, artificial intelligence, all that stuff, like animations, that, you know,

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even the, the, the productions that go on, the videos that are created for the video board,

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they're so, they're so much more cinematic now, you know, it's, it's like filmmaking

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and storytelling. And I think what's great is if you think of those boards as

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a huge canvas that you know that at one time, depending on your stadium, 100,000 people can see

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your work, you know, not like in a gallery where it's like three people at a time, you know,

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it's 100,000 people looking at your work. So to answer your question, who knows? I mean,

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it's like the, the, the artists and the creatives that are doing the work will determine,

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you know, where we can go with it. And I think that's really exciting.

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What is the best video board show you've ever seen?

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Maddie, on your cue to count a step. Got ya.

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Ready locker room, take locker room. We're standing about for channel law.

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You can run on for a long time. 10-6. Dissolve six clear LEDs. Clear G.R.P.

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Ready six, take six. Good shot, John. Ready five, take five.

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Stand by stadium, y'all. Ready five, take five. Stadium, y'all.

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And let's go. Stand by Sandman. Enter Sandman in five, four, three, two, one. Go Sandman.

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Bring that band now. We need everybody. We are one tonight. You hear me?

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Hey. It's great to be here with you.

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I see you have it.

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Let's have a good show, y'all.

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Ready five, take five. Ready 11. Ready seven, take seven.

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Ready 10, take 10.

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Ready five, take five.

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Ready seven, take seven. Ready 11, take 11. Well done, everybody. Let's have a good one.

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In case you missed it, it's an OTJ replay. Rock you by fun 360 cam.

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Ultimately, what's the goal? The goal is to entertain the fans, get the atmosphere as good as it can be, get people in a memorable experience.

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If you ask me, the best job is wireless camera. I know you've done it. There's so much energy. You're in the stands with the fans.

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The greatest thing, in my opinion, when you're talking about in-benu experience and the video boards, it's an instant gratification.

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You can see the result of your work instantly. In that moment, people will respond to seeing themselves on the board and you can feel that instant gratification.

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The work that I did today at this moment made that person's day. They're probably going to go talk about it tomorrow to their friends.

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Our mission at Virginia Tech is to create memorable experiences. When they come to a football game or a basketball game, we call it a one-day vacation.

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The moment they leave their house, the moment they get back, we want them to come back and say, man, what a great day.

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Then they go to school or to church or to work the next day and they say, check out what I did.

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In case you missed it, rock you by fun 360 cam. Smile, spin, share.

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What is the best video board show you've ever seen?

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I went to Dallas this year for this past year. My wife and I like to take a trip once a year, a football trip, where we go to see a high school game on Friday, a college game on Saturday, and a pro game on Sunday.

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That show at Dallas was mind blowing just because of the sheer space of that board. The fact that it's a center hung at a football stadium, they have two separate feeds.

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If you're watching it from one side and the players are moving left to right, the board you look at, they're moving left to right, but on the flip side, it goes the other direction.

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I know a regular fan doesn't know what the heck I'm talking about. If you went there, you'd be like, what they have to do to do that.

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The show itself, I'm not necessarily sure that the show itself was that mind blowing, but the experience though was the one that sticks out my mind.

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Also, I know in Atlanta, the Halo board that they have at Mercedes-Benz is really spectacular.

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The college space, obviously, without talking about Virginia Tech, which of course is the greatest experience of all time.

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It is. Go Hokies.

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Auburn, they do a really great show. They've got a lot of talented people there that work there.

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All the ones that are really good though, they focus on the little details, and I think that's what makes it.

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What is your favorite in-game feature?

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I'm assuming that you're excluding Enter Sandman.

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Yes, that's a given.

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The one I like a lot is, I'll give you two, one of our I mentioned, we do a pressure lock, which I think is cool because it's all random.

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You have no idea if the contestant is going to win or lose, and they can get to the end and have a lot of great prizes then lose it all at the end.

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So I think that that is one of my favorites that we do. Plus, it was something that was unique to us for a little while.

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I think it's a great diversity in the university camp because I think it's really gross. I think I like it because everybody, especially working in college, everybody in the control room gets really excited about doing it and finding people.

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And when you go back, after that feature is done, you go back and you find the people that just saw themselves doing that. Usually they're good sports about it. It's fun to do.

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That's awesome.

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So, I was winding down here, man. I really appreciate your insight, the creativity that you guys have at Virginia Tech. It's unmatched.

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The dedication that you have for your job. One last question. If you were not doing video production, what do you think you would be doing?

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Great question. What I always thought that I wanted to do at the very beginning was do play by play.

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I can hear that.

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But then I realized that's a lot of work. So then I came to this job, which was also a lot of work.

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Maybe no one should ever take career advice from me. I don't know what I would be doing, but I would hope it would be a friend of mine who lives in Las Vegas and she's like, I just want to work with good people.

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And I think that's probably been the thing that I have enjoyed the most in this job is being able to meet and work with good people, be inspired by them,

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and be, you know, have fun, have fun working with people yourself included.

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You know, I think that we're very proud of the atmosphere and the track record that we have here and how much we've grown, but we owe that to people like you who have, you know, come here and worked hard and invested in our program and in our students,

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and, you know, taking pride in the work that we do. And I think that that's probably what I'd be doing.

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And you guys, you guys have students all over.

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We have in our last show this past weekend, which was only a single broadcast, we weren't doing the network show. I think we had 30 to 30 people crude of that.

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Eight of them were staff.

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And two of them were.

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That's amazing.

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Freelancers, so students in every other spot.

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That's amazing.

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Jed, again, I want to thank you for being on the on the podcast.

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Like I was saying before, your insight is incredible. How can people get in contact with you?

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Well, you can follow us on Twitter and Instagram. It's just at Hokey Vision.

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You know, we always take more followers and more likes and, you know, we're in Blacksburg come down and see us.

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Season tickets or tickets for basketball are still open.

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So and we've already talked about how many different places you can see our work on the video board.

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So come to Blacksburg and, you know, get yourself a turkey leg and enjoy yourself. Have a good time.

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And you would definitely be on the reverse camera beating that.

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Yes, absolutely. Yeah. When when you're eating that turkey leg, make sure you're looking out.

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Awesome. Awesome.

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Well, guys, this was an awesome episode of on the jumbo tron.

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We thank you for being here. Hit the like button, subscribe, tell a friend and let them know about what we're doing here.

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About the creativity that we're doing, about the insights that we're giving.

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And we'll see you next time. Have a great one. Thank you again, Jeff. Go Hokeys. Go Hokeys.

