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Hi, my name is Jordan. I am a special education

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teacher from the UK. I share my passion for everything

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communication, sensory regulation and fun lesson

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ideas for my classroom of disabled pupils aged

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4 to 11. Each week I am joined by experts in

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the field answering your questions and sharing

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our knowledge and experience working alongside

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our beautiful young people. Let's get started.

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As I did last summer holidays, I'm going to kind

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of run a roundup of this academic year's podcast

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episodes over the next few weeks for you to enjoy.

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And maybe you missed a couple and you want to

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come back. So yeah, here are my favorite clips

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from the last year. I feel like whole class regulation

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strategies would be really helpful. So taking

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breaks, using tools or practicing self -regulation.

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So it's not seen as different, but a normal part

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of daily school life for everyone. And this is

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the first step in children building their self

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-awareness of their own needs and then their

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confidence and then later their ability to advocate

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for themselves at school. Other strategies like

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accessible spaces and sensory tools for students

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who might need them. make it easy to manage sensory

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needs without that stigma clear predictable routines

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and expect expectations and to help students

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feel safe and confident and the ability to engage

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in learning because obviously when neurodivergent

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students don't feel safe it'll be even harder

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for them to engage and participate at school

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um something else that's um It could be quite

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helpful as having those interest -based clubs

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and projects. So creating opportunities for students

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to connect with other peers over their shared

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passions. And that also can help to support socialization

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and sense of belonging in an authentic way for

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something that they really enjoy together. And

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then again, I think teacher and staff training

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on neurodiversity and strengths -based approaches

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would be really helpful to equip educators with.

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those evidence -based strategies to support every

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student's learning and their wellbeing. Yeah.

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And they're all things that are totally achievable

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for schools. Everything you mentioned there.

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can be easily added in fact there might be already

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starting those things maybe just like not even

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consciously already like our school clubs you

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know how could we make those even more accessible

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and even more as a celebration what are the barriers

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to some of our neurodivergent learners joining

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those clubs or maybe maybe that's a great place

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to start for your school I totally agree sharing

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across the year groups those shared interests

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is such a beautiful way Yeah. Offering those

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lovely social opportunities. Yeah. Yeah. Something

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that feels safe to them. Yeah. They can share

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their knowledge and their understanding of it

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and feel confident and say, I know something

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about this particular. I bet they are, but they're

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so incredibly wise about that subject. It's something

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that they are an expert in. So it gives them

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the opportunity to be the leader maybe in that

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social environment and teach their peers something,

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which is just awesome, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah,

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especially talking about mental health and connectedness.

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I think it's really great to find that balance

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in some way. So yeah, offering our neurodivergent

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students to share what they're great at is a

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really great start. Yeah, definitely. I love

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that. So all the more reason for teachers to

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step up and offer to do clubs. It's always something

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to avoid. In addition to everything else that...

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Whenever I mention clubs, I just look down like...

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But you need to find an educator that has a shared

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passion in a particular area. You know, like

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there's a teacher who loves Lego, could do a

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Lego -based or Pokemon. I know, you know. Right.

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there would be surely some some adults within

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true we've had we've got some incredible clubs

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at my school we've got knitting we've got art

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we've got music we've got sign language yeah

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lego all sorts it's really exciting but it takes

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that commitment from the staff member to stay

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after school and i guess i could never justify

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it before but actually when you when you display

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it like you have of building connectedness social

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opportunities neurodivergent people finally feeling

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like an expert in something they can take the

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lead i'm in well it could also be at lunch time

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it doesn't need to be after so flexibility and

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you can share it with a colleague i've done that

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before so we do a week each that makes it feel

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more achievable or a half term each makes it

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feel more achievable there are lots of ways around

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but now I'm you've kind of sold me on the whole

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thing now whereas I've always avoided it before

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so maybe that's homework for me coming from this

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podcast I always try and give myself some kind

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of developmental target after the podcast and

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um that's definitely one for me to like yeah

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There was also one more strategy that's embedded

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throughout the whole of the In My Shoes program.

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So across the 10 lesson plans, this strategy

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is embedded across all of them. And in each of

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the lesson plans, it covers a different area.

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So for example, managing conflict at break times,

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knowing yourself within the classroom, those

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sorts of things, or managing when change happens

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as well. It's called Look, Think, Decide. So

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the idea is that it's trying to teach students

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that perspective taking to be able to first...

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look at what's going on, what's happening in

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a situation, body language, facial expressions,

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tone of voice, think about what the person might

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be thinking, think about what the person might

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be feeling. And obviously our neurodivergent

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students might need scaffolding and support with

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this. And within the program, there is those

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resources to help with that. And then the last

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step is to decide what can I do in this situation

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that might be an inclusive action to help in

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this scenario. So the idea is that the child

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is trying to put themselves in someone else's

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shoes. So that's a name. of the program in my

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shoes so I think if we could help and another

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simple strategies at school could be to help

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start teaching that perspective taking and to

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get all students to start shifting their perspective

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of you know how would I feel if I was in their

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shoes what can I look at what's happening can

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I think about it and can I decide what I can

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do to help And I find that really fascinating

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because I think every child would thrive in such

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a bespoke environment that adapts literally to

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them. Special education needs or not. I just

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think every child would thrive in that situation.

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It's why homeschoolers do so well because it

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is built on their interests. It's built on their

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style of learning and all of that. I just think,

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no, special education is a luxury. And we're

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so lucky to be able to choose that as a career

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and as a path because it does give that freedom

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to meet every child's needs where they're at

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that you can't do when you've got 30. You couldn't

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possibly. You could be the best teacher in the

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world and you've got 30 faces in front of you.

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You couldn't possibly. make them all feel seen

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and heard and needs met in that moment is not

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possible. But you can in special education. And

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it's so fulfilling as a teacher to have that

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impact. Is there anything that you miss, though,

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from mainstream? Because it is very different.

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It is. I don't think I saw it as big of a deal

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as other people saw it. But then I do it with

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most things. I'm like, oh, I'll just give it

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a go. I'll give it a try. That's the worst that

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can happen, right? well exactly I thought it's

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um yeah and I why not have a change why not try

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something new but I think the thing I do miss

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I was worried I'd miss colleagues and I'd be

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isolated like I said to the staff I absolutely

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love them and they put up with me knocking on

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their door all the time and I do think the thing

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that goes round and round in my head is that

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assessment how that i think that you just so

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when you become a teacher it's so ingrained in

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you must assess you must have compared you must

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have next step like when i was finding that actually

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to anybody that would listen i could reel off

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everything the child could do everything that

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i think in my head they're working for i could

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reel it all off but obviously if i wasn't in

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that day who am i going to reel it off to so

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having that a bit more A bit more of a rigid

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scaffold, which actually in reality I don't like.

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This is why it suits me so well. You feel like

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you should have that, yeah. Yeah, I kept waiting.

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I was like, okay, the local authority are going

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to come round and check. We've been here a month.

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They'll come round with their clipboard, tell

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us to be doing X, Y, Z. They came, nodded, left.

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Stead came, nodded, left. I think the thing I

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miss the most is maybe having like a big brother

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telling me what to do kind of thing. Yeah, because

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you're the pioneer in there. Yeah, but I don't...

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I think because it's going well and because of

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the relationships I have with staff, I'm not

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missing it. And actually, at the moment, we're

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kind of working on like five or six different

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ways of assessing. But they are so different.

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I don't feel it's right to. Communication and

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speech, for example, just because one is a really

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good communicator using words, one is like a

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gestalt stage three speaker, and one is... non

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-speaking I don't it's I could have created my

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own scale but actually I'm not going to say they're

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on stage one right if I do xyz they're going

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to be here yeah because it's not because isn't

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it yeah yeah and you almost I would need I was

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trying to make 12 different ways to assess or

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I was bringing welcome I was I was any kind of

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way and so I kind of just settled on all the

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little ways we're assessing I'm trying not to

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trying to put them all into one group because

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they're not and they're not going to have the

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same outcomes exactly and ultimately like the

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targets are the speech and language targets or

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the targets are their individual educational

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plan or their um educational health care targets

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like you don't actually need any more targets

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than that like that already is the priority and

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it's trying to get your head into that mindset

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isn't it of like my only legal requirement is

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to meet the eacp like that is it and it's like

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which can be interesting well yeah that's another

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thing do use your reviews wisely in that first

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year of having a child often you have to like

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rewrite the whole thing yeah i've had some awful

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targets on them our previous ones like eye contact

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and all sorts so yeah sometimes like we do it

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all but once you're happy with like what you're

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working with and yeah that is the target isn't

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it so you know that that is what matters and

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that is so beautiful as well for those people

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that are listening to this mainstream teachers

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because we do have a few and thinking oh this

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sounds interesting I'm thinking about making

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a shift what would be your advice to them one

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when they're thinking about whether they want

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to make the shift but then also people maybe

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that are also in where you were a couple of years

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ago starting this new thing or last year starting

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this new thing what is what's your advice for

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those people too I suppose there's two groups

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there I would well I did it a little bit at the

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beginning before we had any children but I wish

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I did more of it just go and visit where you

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can because just because you've seen one base

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provision doesn't mean you've seen them just

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because you've been to one specialist school

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doesn't mean you've seen and I think the more

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I saw the more people I networked with the more

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I not even for me knowing what to do because

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I did I know what to do we're teachers we're

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trained we're caring people we know how to meet

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the needs of children we know how to find out

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how to meet the needs of children but I think

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for my own peace of mind seeing other people

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and seeing actually that we've they've all made

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their own way and it's okay to be flexible in

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that way I has really benefited me and I think

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um just getting to go and see them because you

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think they don't exist you think they're special

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or like exclusive and hidden but like like you've

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you're one I'm one they're popping up they're

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popping up everywhere I don't think they're going

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to go anywhere no not that's why I started my

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account actually because they did feel so exclusive

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and hidden and that they were all behind a locked

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door because of the children's safety and we

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were doing such gorgeous work and I love my job

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so much with we're really experts what we do

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and my team are and I just wanted to celebrate

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that honestly like I wanted other people to see

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it and just because of the nature and anxiety

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of my children We weren't able to do that as

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well as I wanted to. So that is why I started

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this. I just wanted to shout out, like we aren't

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an institution. This is love. Like this is teaching

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at its absolute highest quality, best level teaching.

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Like this is it. Like learn from us. We're experts.

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That's kind of like what my account was about.

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And I'm really pleased that it's coming across

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the right people like yourself of like. inspiring

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other creators because it's not for everybody

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and I respect it if it's not for you that's absolutely

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fine but if you have got that kind of creative

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inkling that desire for send you're seeing these

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send kids in mainstream and something in your

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gut is telling you that you kind of want to do

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something a little bit more creative a little

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bit out there test the waters a little bit then

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yeah go and see your local specialist provisions

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your local provisions talk to your head teacher

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about possibly starting a resource space and

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give it a go because genuinely what is the worst

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that could happen it could be the best decision

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you've ever made right people are gonna want

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to know how to get hold of you especially for

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the lesson plans but for everything else you

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offer so you do you it's magic moves isn't it

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that you do it's a movement -based program for

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schools and a six -month program for parents

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do you want to talk about that a little bit yes

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um yeah so my school's program is called magic

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moves it's a movement program so it's essentially

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40 weeks of movement videos that uh tell a story

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so each week is a different story so maybe week

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one might be jungle theme week two might be under

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the sea or whatever and each day builds upon

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the story every video is only about five minutes

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long so it's about five minutes a day it's really

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great for a movement break and all the movements

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are those early developmental movements plus

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proprioceptive input plus interoception as well

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so it helps children tune into themselves so

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it's essentially a program that I pulled together

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because I it was everything I want to kind of

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see happen in schools that I say over and over

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and over again and I thought actually why couldn't

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I bring this all together and do it in a really

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fun story -based way it's a pre -recorded thing

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you could either play on your whiteboard or play

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at home whenever you need that really rich well

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put together movement break yeah or movement

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movement um it'd be a really good thing to play

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that's awesome I love the sound of that you've

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also got calm the chaos as well can you tell

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us a little bit yes sure in fact actually before

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i talk about calm the chaos i might just say

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on that you can also add other bits so i i also

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do sensory champion training so i like training

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kind of one or two or a few staff in a school

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to be almost sensory champions so they are kind

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of the sensory lead for that school and it's

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quite an intensive training that I do with them

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and intensive support and they have a lot of

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access to me and it helps filter down those kind

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of sensory bits throughout the whole school.

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It really adds it then in the whole school. Yeah

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absolutely and I think it's quite a empowering

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role for a member of staff to have as well especially

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when you start seeing the kind of impact of it.

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And I'm sure every headteacher or SENCO listening

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to this can immediately think of somebody in

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their school that would be a great advocate,

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that's already a great advocate, really harness

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that interest and really boost out the skills

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in you to get everybody else levelled up, I suppose.

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Absolutely. And what's lovely about that is we

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also have a monthly. Q &amp;A session for all the

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sensory champions. So all the staff from the

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different schools can come together and talk

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about what they're doing in their school. And

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it's a really nice kind of networking opportunity

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as well. So that's been really lovely. And then

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I've got my parent program, which is Calm the

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Chaos. So it's a six month, quite intensive support

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package. Again, because working in previous roles,

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I was never able to give families. the level

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of support that they needed and the kind of long

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period of time that they needed to embed things

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and just to have someone there for them so i've

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developed that so i can kind of feel a bit like

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a family member to them and they can just rely

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on me when they need me yeah absolutely and I'm

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with them every step of the way and so in that

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you've got some coaching with me you've got training

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videos based on your child's needs you've got

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sensory screenings you've got support for the

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school you've got the movement videos um there's

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a lot in it And it's quite an intensive package,

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but it's really wanted it to just feel like a

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hug for a family. And it's to support the whole

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family. And I can help with multiple children.

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I can even help adults understand their own sensory

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needs. So those are my two main packages, really.

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They sound incredible. And it's so what's needed.

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Like I said, I'm in Cornwall and getting access

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to anybody is so, so difficult. That's if you

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know what you're even after. and it's so difficult

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to even know who you need in the therapy kind

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of world. So that sounds amazing. And I would

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say from my experience of working with a load

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of different experts, regulation is first. So

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if you're struggling with any other areas, behaviour,

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communication, whatever it is, eating, everything,

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all comes back down to regulation. So I would

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say I would advocate that. It's a really good

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place to start a funeral, I'm sure. Yeah, 100%.

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Regulation before everything. I will die on that

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hill. I mean... Everyone will expect you to say

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that because you're an occupational therapist.

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Occupational therapists say that. So I'm just

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going to put my thing as well. I agree. I'm a

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special education teacher. I teach lots of different

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things. I speak to lots of different people.

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And I agree with you that regulation is key.

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It has to come first. It really, really does.

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Without that, you can't hope you could have the

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best systems in the world. You can have the best

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communication, iPad and training and expertise

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in the world. It will not support as well as

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it can do. your children are regulated so yeah

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i definitely i would die on that hill too so

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for those that haven't heard of rise therapy

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it's a four -step system of and led by the learners

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and so the pace is led by the learners and you

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moving from step to step is led by the learners

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too and if you only if they're only ready for

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step one and you just do step one That's also

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good. And that was the fundamentals of this neurofaring

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practice. Remember, we're listening to them.

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We're helping them to understand their bodies

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and when they need to move on and when they don't.

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So step one is all about regulation and reconnection.

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So it's all about connecting after anything that's

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broken down, any broken promises that have happened

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all throughout the day. We break promises all

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the time as practitioners. Even if we don't know

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we have, you know, a learner might have been

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expecting a certain snack and then it's not in

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their lunchbox. So we've broken that promise,

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you know. Maybe we've made a change to the timetable.

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Maybe the photographer's in the hall and the

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PE can't happen. Maybe it's raining, so we have

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outdoor play. All of those kind of broken promises

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throughout the day. So step one's all about reconnecting,

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co -regulation, and yeah, regulating together

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and connecting together in a beautiful, intensive

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interaction kind of way, if you know that term.

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And then step two, if they're ready, is about

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a lead adult stepping away. and inviting them

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into a group type scenario so it will be highly

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visual highly motivating and the idea is that

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we want the learners to notice this and come

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on over on their own terms or not come over on

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their own terms. And that is honoured also if

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they want to stay in step one or they can observe,

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they can come on over. And the idea is when they

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do come over, we start steps three right away.

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They get right into the action straight away.

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We've had learners to jump straight into the

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tough trays. We've had learners sprinkling things,

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banging things. They're in the action straight

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away. They don't have to wait. They want to explore.

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We've got their engagement. We're going to validate

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that and celebrate that. Step three is... about

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being alone together so playing in all of our

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own beautiful ways but alongside each other because

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that's how collaboration starts that's how social

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interaction starts and we have seen some really

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lovely interactions happening on their own terms

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which is really exciting and meanwhile the adults

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are kind of validating all of the communication

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they see all the attempts all of the social play

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attempts all of their play styles and all of

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those things everything's safe we are validating

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and modeling back at them and then step four

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When we're ready, when the learners are kind

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of feeling like they've had enough and you can

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see that they're starting to disengage, maybe

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wander off, maybe, you know, finish playing.

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It's time for step four, which is ending. A whole

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section on its own, all about the ending of a

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loved activity, transitioning out of it and what

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that looks like. So it looks like making a game

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out of tidying up a little bit Mary Poppins style.

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Find the game in the tidying up so it's less

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triggering and less dysregulating for our learners.

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And also that they can see that it's visually

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and slowly in their own time coming to an end.

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We get rid of the visual clutter and they can

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see that, you know, they can pace it out that

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the ending doesn't happen straight. away and

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we go and get on with something else just as

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even more exciting over the other women and they

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can join again something that we noticed was

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I only wanted to create this as a afternoon communication

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group offer activity lesson to replace some of

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the more compliance -based practices that I was

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using before but actually what's happened is

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it isn't a lone session at all it's actually

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now kind of bled into everything we do so even

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when my learner to go to the toilet for example

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we are using a rise race approach to do that

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we're thinking okay we need to connect first

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before we ask them to do this really tricky activity

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for them how can we make the activity as fun

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and affirming as possible and validating for

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them and their needs and then how can we finish

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this activity in a really positive and learner

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play and it's kind of it's led into everything

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really so we call it rise sessions but actually

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it seems to be like a rise system more than that

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because it really is in the best neurofirming

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practice. And I'm incredibly proud of it and

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we've seen some amazing results. I went to a

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school just last week and I'd never met the learners

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before. They were early years, absolutely gorgeous.

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I think I was 10. early years autistic children

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non -speaking that I'd never met before and ran

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a RISE session and every single one of them joined

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it when they don't normally. We had some beautiful

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spoken and AAC communication and we finished

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the activity regulated and having had a really

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great time and that would just never happen in

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a brand new class that I'd never met before with

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other practices that I've used in the past which

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just shows that the learners were heard, they

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were invested, they wanted to be there. And all

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of a sudden there was no behaviours because they

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wanted to be there. And often crisis behaviours

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and hurting behaviours come from two things,

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either not feeling heard and understood and things

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feeling triggering for them. and then being made

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to do it or a sense of not um dysregulation as

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in the sensory wise and i feel like rise listens

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to their sensory needs and regulation all the

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way through and it also helps them to feel heard

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so we just we're just not seeing as much of that

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um spiking behavior yeah i don't know what you've

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found yes so i've really liked it's exactly what

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you said about like some of those i guess key

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principles as well like that connection with

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the child and i think having that time to regulate

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at the beginning learning it kind of reminds

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me of the there's like a triangle model the Taylor

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Trott pyramid of learning you know where it starts

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with the central nervous system then it's like

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sensory systems the auditory and visual processing

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language then learning it's just so nice to sort

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of it's so funny you mentioned that because that

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is absolutely the fundamentals of everything

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I do if you want to look at it up it's called

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the pyramid of learning and yeah it's so true

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it the sensory system is the basis of all learning

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and then right at the top of this pyramid is

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academic learning there's no way we could get

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to that point without all of these fundamental

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skills learned beforehand
