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And we're live, baby. Testing, testing, one,

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two, three. Thank you for joining us at Are We

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Cancelled Yet? The podcast for you and your mama

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and your daddy too. Oh my gosh. This is the pod

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for the documentary seekers. The one who wants

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information that they never asked for. And today,

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is where you're going to get it with your host

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JoJo and Tamika aka Meek Meek aka Encore aka

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doesn't know what she's getting into because

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I'm not prepared for this pod I did not watch

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the homework any documentaries which I love documentaries

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but I was just out of the loop I've been moving

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everyone Your girl's moving. So she's been busy.

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Okay. So anyway, we about to go straight into

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it. Cause I got some shit to say. Okay. All right.

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First of all, you know how they say curiosity

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kills the cat. Well, what was that? I thought

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the first one was really good. The second one.

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iffy all right well listen i was the cat because

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i definitely watched that chris brown documentary

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that investigation discovery put together i do

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not plan on watching it i will not watch it that

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i told you not to watch that was me until i saw

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it pop up and i was like to see it i felt like

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i knew everything that they were gonna talk about

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so i didn't have to see it i'm not even gonna

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hold you Not even going to hold you. They threw...

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What don't we already know? Baby, listen. Okay,

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so I'm going to just start off by saying they

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are really comparing this man, Chris Brown, to

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R. Kelly and P. Diddy. They are putting him in

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the same category as them two. Which I feel like

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is a bit far -fetched because he's not messing

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with children. He's not messing with children

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or anything like that. But according to the documentary,

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there were some allegations. We can't say it

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for the internet purposes, but some forcible

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allegations. Let's dig deep into it, shall we?

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Now you know. Okay. I'm not even going to hold

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you. I was one of those people who was like,

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who can't really. No, I think I can separate

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the artist from the person. But. I can sometimes.

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Now. It becomes a little. That documentary had

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me side -eyed, my boy. Really? It got me side

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-eyed. And I only say that because whoever put

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this together literally thought. this through

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every time they were talking about um and i'm

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just briefly generally give you the scope before

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i dig deep every time they were talking about

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an allegation or like something that happened

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between him and a woman or an incident with a

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woman you know how when you're watching something

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you have a thought and you're you're like skeptical

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like not like the why like no why would that

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yeah x y and z blah blah blah before you could

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even get your thought out They would pop open,

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not pop open, but they would pop to a next scene

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with a professional, like a psychological professional.

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Yeah. That's literally answering every question

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in your mind. I'm not even joking, bro. Every

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time they said something and I'm thinking and

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I'm listening to the scenarios and I'm like,

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yeah, I could see that. That's wrong. But also,

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and then. An industry professional would pop

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in and say, well, you know, predators really

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do X, Y, and Z to their victims because blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'd be

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like, dang. Damn, so they say a predator? For

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sure. For sure. Okay, so let me start. Of course,

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they were talking about the whole Rihanna situation.

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I feel like that's the situation he's never going

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to get away from. No. Like ever. But. They had

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new information that we ain't never heard. About

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that situation? Yes. I'm not even going to hold

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you. I ain't never seen the police report. So

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they had police reports. And then I believe it

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was either. I forget. It was a black woman. She

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was either. i knew she worked with the lapd i

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don't know if she was on the force during the

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case or if she was like the detective or something

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like that but she was connected to the original

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case or whatever the case may be so we all know

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that somebody on the lapd are the ones who leaked

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that information about that just like they leaked

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the information of um kobe's death before it

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was even solidified yeah who the heck is out

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there who leaking shit y 'all y 'all on somebody

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payroll but somebody can pay a hefty coin listen

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they said we ain't protecting nothing we we tmz

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we tmz out here so check it so they were talking

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about the fight they they even said that and

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i've never heard this and let me know if you've

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heard this because i don't remember hearing this

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they said that in the report Um, you know when

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it was going back and forth which you know We

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know about all that other stuff about the keys

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and about the other stuff. They're on their way

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back to the crib She's on the phone fake phone

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call with her assistant. She tried to call her

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assistant. Her assistant didn't pick up She tried

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to act like she was on the phone with her assistant

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and she was like, oh We'll make sure the cops

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are there when I'm there mind you she's not on

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the phone with anybody, right? Chris hears this

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and he's like, oh you want to call the mf and

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cops? B i'ma kill you or something like that.

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I was like I've never heard this conversation

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in the original... Am I tripping? Did I hear

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this? I feel like I heard something like this.

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Something similar to that? I feel like it because

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they didn't go back to the house. They even said

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in their... Did they go back to the house? It

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said they did. Like wait till we get to the house.

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I'm gonna kill you or some shit like that. And

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they also said that he was choking her to the

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point to where she couldn't breathe. I don't

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remember any choking. I remember them saying

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something about biting. I remember the biting.

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Keys being thrown. Punched in the face. I got

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all of that. I don't. baby listen they they were

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saying that this man was verbally threatened

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threatening and all this other stuff like they

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they was bringing to like some new stuff we ain't

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never heard before and i was like where the receipts

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they had a receipt so they only gave you a little

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bit no they when it happened what you talking

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about oh um you know what and that's what that's

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where i think pr came into play when it was happening

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i feel like pr pr is like let's just give them

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enough let's just give them the bite yes let's

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like give and take yes what's the harsh stuff

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but we're not gonna give them everything but

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we will give you the biting because we can explain

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that and and we can't we can't take away the

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fact that you know the punch in the face because

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we have We have photographs. Yeah, you was definitely

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punching the face. We have photographs. So, of

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course, the industry expert comes on and talks

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about, you know, how she's this big figure or

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whatever and how victims tend to go back to their

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abuser because just a week after that, and this

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is where it comes into play, a week after that,

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they had photos of them two at Diddy's house.

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And I remember on, it was a talk show, I think

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it was Ellen. Ellen Diddy did say, you know,

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I think they're just two young kids in love.

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A mistake happened. I do remember that. And I

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helped them through their situation. So they

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actually have photos of them two at Diddy's house

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afterwards. I do remember this. Like a week afterwards.

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Where is this going? Baby, listen. But remember,

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then they were saying, you know, of course they

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split up. We know they split up. And then remember

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when they got back together like years later.

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And then. To the eye, it's kind of like, okay,

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they're back together. They're trying to do this

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united front or whatever. Like, if she forgave

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him, why can't we? That was our thought process.

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And that's what I was thinking when I was reading

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this. Didn't they? An industry professional came

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back on and made me rethink some things. Oh,

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my gosh. And then they was talking about how,

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which I forgot about this, he did cheat on Rihanna

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with Carucci. Well, actually, from the way they

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told it, he was with Carucci. when he went back

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to rihanna i heard that yeah so that made me

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think like dang and you were cheating around

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for a minute for a minute and she worked at nordstrom

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i know baby listen baby listen come pick me up

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while i'm at nordstrom retail store look i bet

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that made nordstrom's uh stuff go up So they

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talking about this, they talking about Karuchi

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and they was like, well, you know, because this

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was a high profile level relationship or whatever,

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an abuser is not going to do that again because

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you can't, he, that, that will forever follow

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him. Now you get somebody that's, uh, that's

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not in the limelight. That's just a regular person

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that you can do whatever you want. And it's not

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going to come back to you tenfold or people are

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not going to really bat an eye on that because

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she's not a public figure like Rihanna. That's

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why you went to get the girl to work in Nordstrom's?

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I say, dang, that make you think. That make you

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think. I mean, okay, hold on. But then Karrueche

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ended up becoming famous. It makes you think,

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but then it don't because. I just went through

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that. I'm not trying to go through that. I'm

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not trying to go through that again. I'm going

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to get someone. That's what we think. In a different

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light. But then we also know that he was, I mean,

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he was on camera abusive to Karuchi, like mentally.

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We don't know what he was doing at the crib,

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but we do have cameras of him, especially when

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he had the baby on her, of him forcing himself,

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like following her, stalking pretty much. I mean,

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he was following her for sure. And then there

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was, they had footage of him grabbing her. The

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friend like get out the car. He forces his way

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into the car going wherever they going. She's

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like, I don't want you in here. Like they have

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footage of all of that. Now in between all of

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this and this, I did not know about, um, they

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had this one blonde, of course. let me just let

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me just start off by saying none of these women

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to my knowledge are black and i say to my knowledge

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because one of the girls that actually spoke

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out about um the allegation um they had her blurred

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out they had her blurred out she had the voice

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change and all that other stuff right but let

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me let me start with this one girl okay okay

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so one uh blonde girl They had her face blurred

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out, but this was a body cam of a police officer.

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She came in to file a report, crying, and was

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like, yeah, you know, some people approached

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me and was like, you know how the groupies do.

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Somebody approached you like, hey, you trying

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to meet Chris Brown? She's like, yeah, I'm trying

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to meet Chris Brown. So she go back on the tour

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bus, didn't even fully get on the bus. He look

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at her and he like. hell nah somebody get her

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off right so security literally picks her up

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by her arms and kind of like um uh like try to

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like place her off of the bus yeah now this is

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where it gets a little shaky it's doing a lot

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but this is where it gets a little shaky like

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did she misstep and fall or did they push her

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you get what i'm saying they're saying they pushed

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her off the bus that that's what her thing did

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now the reason why we didn't the public didn't

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hear or we probably didn't hear about that for

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real it was very short -lived only because she

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filed a report um his fans got a hold of it shutting

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that shit down she was being threatened yeah

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she came back and she took the she took it back

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she didn't get paid or nothing and then after

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that happened an industry professional came on

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and was like even though he was not the one that

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physically did this somebody from his team did

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it on his command like they threw you off the

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bus I don't know but also you're not about to

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look at me and be like hell no I'm leaving by

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choice I'm leaving by choice and I'm crying and

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that's that's exactly that was my thought too

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until the industry professional came on and made

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me second guess literally everything that you

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were thinking in this documentary somebody came

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on right after and gave a reasoning to why to

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make you actually think about another perspective

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which was brilliant in a way fucking with you

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it's fucking with me for sure like because now

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it's like do I separate the artist from the person

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but then we also know that strength is in numbers

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and if if this is a repetitive thing because

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there's more stuff that we need to get to a lot

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more even over in Paris but I'm gonna get there

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if this is a repetitive thing and we know that

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strength are in numbers we we can't separate

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the artist from the person we have to treat it

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as one entity because this is how he makes his

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money If we completely stop streaming and all

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that, which is how he's getting his money, because

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let's be honest, industry is not messing with

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him right now. So the only thing that's holding

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him down is the diehard fans. True. If the streaming

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stops, that's the only thing that's going to

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be like, okay, I fucked up. But what's real and

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what's not. What's real and what's not. But also,

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I don't know. These allegations, babes. It's

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a lot. And a lot of them got pushed to the side.

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But of course, we're not going to, like they

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said, we're not going to hear about it because

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they're not a Rihanna. They're not a Carucci.

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Yeah. They're regular degulars that went through

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this situation. Now, next. Paris. girl also non

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-black she was also non -white i don't know what

00:15:02.370 --> 00:15:07.629
she was i don't know what she was um but she

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was a blonde she came on and she was like okay

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you know um she came on camera she was like you

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know i i mean When you're at a Chris Brown concert,

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you know about the allegations. You saw the pictures,

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but you're not thinking about that in the moment.

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You're just like, oh, I can get backstage. Cool.

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So they end up inviting her to a party or whatever.

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They were sitting out. This is where I was like,

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all right, bitch. They specifically said, no

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phones, no cameras, no none of that. You just

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here to meet Chris whatever. So she go in there

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with her peoples. She's like, there's drugs everywhere.

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Not in. And I'm glad they clarified this. He

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was not pushing drugs on anybody. Okay. The drugs

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were just out. If you want them, here they go.

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Yeah. But also we know it's not a secret. He's

00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:03.919
on drugs. It's not a secret that any of these

00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.940
musicians are on drugs. For sure. Sad to say

00:16:06.940 --> 00:16:09.840
that's a part of the lifestyle. But he was not

00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.279
forcing drugs upon anybody. They were just laying

00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:16.059
there like a freaking party favor. So she was

00:16:16.059 --> 00:16:18.320
like, yeah, he was acting a little weird, a little

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funny. Bitch, he's high. He's high. Okay, cool.

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So he's acting weird, a little funny. So I decided

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to take my phone out and get a picture. They

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said no phones. They said no phones. That's the

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first thing I heard you say when you gave me

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the list. They said what, Tamika? No phones.

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No phones. So why? And your rabbit. Why would

00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:47.019
you take your phone out and get a picture and

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he's acting weird? And drugs are everywhere.

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Why is that a thing? Clearly they don't want

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that out there. This is a party. We chilling.

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Yeah. So. She was like, granted, I know they

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said no phones, but what happened to me next

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should not have happened. Now, that's where I

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feel like victim is thin. It's thin. It's thin

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right there because for every action is a reaction.

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I'm not going to hold you, nor do I condone anything

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that he did that I'm about to say. But I definitely,

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if I was in his position, I would have got one

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of my homegirls to whip her ass. I'll hold you.

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If I say no phones, why you got your phone out?

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Like no phones. Baby, listen. And if he's acting

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funny, he's high. He's not in his right mind.

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Again, not an excuse. Right. But he's not in

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his right mind. You know this. You take out your

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phone anyway. Just so happens, as you're taking

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out your phone, he's looking up at you. I'm scared.

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He lunges. I'm scared. No, no, motherfucker.

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I ain't gonna hold you. You got a nigga on drugs?

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Or anybody. I'm scared. I'm not even going to

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be in that environment. If I see you got a cute

00:18:05.619 --> 00:18:08.680
little party face instead of wings, you got coke,

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I'm out. Oh, you're not going to any of the parties.

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I'm not going to any of the parties. You're not

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going to any of the parties. Listen. And we've

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been to parties. In my eye, I'm Stevie Wonder

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in the place. I'm Stevie Wonder. But listen,

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listen, listen, please. I'm handing out the platter.

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He lunges at her, punches her, and then tells

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security, get her ugly ass out of here. Call

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her out, her name, all that. And then security

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take her phone, throws it, breaks it. I was about

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to say. For sure. They break the phone, kick

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her out, boom. She goes on out of her mouth to

00:19:01.700 --> 00:19:05.099
say, I knew they said no phones and I took my

00:19:05.099 --> 00:19:07.160
phone out anyway, but that was no excuse for

00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:09.720
him to do what he did, nor did they have to break

00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:11.599
my phone. All they had to do was just tell me

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to leave and I would have left. And that's where

00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.279
I started thinking, what are you thinking at

00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:21.920
that point? I don't know if you would have left.

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I think you would have gotten combative if they

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would have took your phone and then asked you

00:19:27.769 --> 00:19:30.069
to leave. Well, because you have my phone. Because

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you have my phone. I want my phone. But also,

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if I told you no phone. We're her friends. You

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came in here with people. First off, my friends,

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we're not coming. We're not separating. And we're

00:19:46.490 --> 00:19:48.849
going everywhere as a group, especially when

00:19:48.849 --> 00:19:50.710
we ain't supposed to have our phones. I'm definitely

00:19:50.710 --> 00:19:53.710
not taking out my phone. Definitely not taking

00:19:53.710 --> 00:19:54.569
out my phone. I'm surprised they didn't take

00:19:54.569 --> 00:19:56.410
her phone at the door. That's what I'm trying

00:19:56.410 --> 00:19:59.829
to figure out. But I'm going to be like, I believe

00:19:59.829 --> 00:20:02.309
that I need my phone. I'm trying to figure out,

00:20:02.430 --> 00:20:04.450
did they take it and she say, I ain't had no

00:20:04.450 --> 00:20:07.049
phone? There was some stuff that I felt like

00:20:07.049 --> 00:20:09.329
was missing. Because I feel like if this is a

00:20:09.329 --> 00:20:11.829
no -fo party, I'm not trusting y 'all not to

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take y 'all phone out and sneak in nothing. I'm

00:20:13.430 --> 00:20:15.230
taking your stuff at the door. That's why you

00:20:15.230 --> 00:20:18.609
get the zippy bags. Yeah. Unless you physically

00:20:18.609 --> 00:20:21.230
said, oh, no, I ain't got no phone. Look at my

00:20:21.230 --> 00:20:23.190
outfit. Y 'all like, hey, she got to go. Yeah.

00:20:23.569 --> 00:20:26.269
Let me have my phone and I will leave. Yes. Let

00:20:26.269 --> 00:20:27.410
me have my phone and I will leave. Well, baby,

00:20:27.470 --> 00:20:28.869
listen. And then I'm getting my ass beat. They

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broke the hell out that phone and kicked her

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ass out the party. I get that. But then I would

00:20:33.210 --> 00:20:34.430
have been wondering, like, is it in the cloud?

00:20:35.740 --> 00:20:38.220
Whatever videos you took because I definitely

00:20:38.220 --> 00:20:39.720
would have took your phone broken and kicked

00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:41.859
you out Oh, yeah, we are we are in it, but I

00:20:41.859 --> 00:20:43.359
don't know when this was they didn't say when

00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:46.480
it was I think this might have been like Not

00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:49.579
early to that, but it definitely after the Rihanna

00:20:49.579 --> 00:20:52.579
situation. Yeah, but I punched you but I was

00:20:52.579 --> 00:20:55.079
like, oh but also you want a psychologist say

00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:58.559
or just like who was it the experts the expert

00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:00.660
I don't remember what they said about her. The

00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:02.740
only thing I was flabbergasted about was they,

00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.359
they showed the clips. Um, cause now the thing

00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.859
is, I do remember the clips coming out of Chris

00:21:08.859 --> 00:21:11.200
going on an Instagram rant. Talk about some,

00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:14.819
this ugly bitch came to like, I would never let

00:21:14.819 --> 00:21:16.339
you in my party. Have you seen what you look

00:21:16.339 --> 00:21:20.799
like? Like he was talking cash trash, but I never

00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:23.519
knew the situation, what the situation was, what

00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.779
the situation was. Now the documentary bringing

00:21:26.779 --> 00:21:30.170
stuff to life. Yeah. And then he had some other

00:21:30.170 --> 00:21:34.289
stuff in Paris about him forcing. But it was

00:21:34.289 --> 00:21:36.630
unclear whether he did it or the people he was

00:21:36.630 --> 00:21:40.150
with forced himself on the girl. Very unclear.

00:21:40.869 --> 00:21:45.690
But that time, the Paris police was paid off.

00:21:46.210 --> 00:21:50.009
That time. That time. They did have proof of

00:21:50.009 --> 00:21:54.829
that. What? And if you're being paid off, that's

00:21:54.829 --> 00:21:59.019
what? A little guilt guilt. ice your little guilt

00:21:59.019 --> 00:22:02.000
guilt for sure whether it was you or somebody

00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.859
in your camp you're you're a public figure yeah

00:22:05.859 --> 00:22:08.779
even if it wasn't physically you you're always

00:22:08.779 --> 00:22:10.799
going to be associated with that you're a public

00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:15.119
figure okay you gotta tread lightly i don't condone

00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:20.279
any of these actions my question is why would

00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:22.720
you laugh i'm not laughing i'm just preparing

00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.849
myself no no no my question is has any of this

00:22:26.849 --> 00:22:29.509
happened when he wasn't on drugs like is this

00:22:29.509 --> 00:22:32.250
just who you are or is this how you are on drugs

00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:36.890
and also your party is fucking trash like you're

00:22:36.890 --> 00:22:40.289
the people you keep around you dance trash this

00:22:40.289 --> 00:22:44.329
is a common thing with celebrities when they

00:22:44.329 --> 00:22:47.369
start fucking up you can't be fucking up you

00:22:47.369 --> 00:22:49.549
can't or they be kissing your ass too much to

00:22:49.549 --> 00:22:53.089
check you yep so what is it do you got a drug

00:22:53.089 --> 00:22:58.670
problem or you just Or do you got an anger issue

00:22:58.670 --> 00:23:02.730
problem? Boundary -less individual. The thing

00:23:02.730 --> 00:23:07.630
is, we know, and the industry professionals said

00:23:07.630 --> 00:23:10.529
this, they said the anger problem stems from

00:23:10.529 --> 00:23:12.450
his childhood. They said that. About seeing his

00:23:12.450 --> 00:23:14.390
mama beat up. He said that. And, you know, that's

00:23:14.390 --> 00:23:16.930
where most victims, I mean, that's where most,

00:23:17.009 --> 00:23:19.809
you know, abusers get it from. It starts from

00:23:19.809 --> 00:23:21.549
the childhood and da -da -da. Yeah, they said

00:23:21.549 --> 00:23:23.009
that. So, they was really breaking it down. He

00:23:23.009 --> 00:23:27.369
said that. Now, the next one. This is the one

00:23:27.369 --> 00:23:29.130
that was shielding herself and everything. She

00:23:29.130 --> 00:23:31.509
was like, when I came public with this before,

00:23:31.569 --> 00:23:35.190
because they did ask her, why are you not coming

00:23:35.190 --> 00:23:38.970
on camera? She was like, because last time when

00:23:38.970 --> 00:23:42.089
I went public, girl, and my nosy ass again. I'm

00:23:42.089 --> 00:23:45.650
so nosy. I tried to go. I couldn't find it. I

00:23:45.650 --> 00:23:49.190
couldn't find it. I couldn't find it, bro. She

00:23:49.190 --> 00:23:52.049
was like, last time I went, which tells me this

00:23:52.049 --> 00:23:56.019
had to have been early 2000s. She was like, when

00:23:56.019 --> 00:24:00.000
I came out before, the internet tore me up. And

00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:02.579
I did not want to go through that again. But

00:24:02.579 --> 00:24:05.519
I felt like I needed to tell my story now. They

00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:09.920
was like, why now? Why now? She was like, I've

00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.420
been through therapy. I've been able to digest

00:24:12.420 --> 00:24:14.839
everything. And I've been able to kind of cope

00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.539
with the situation at hand. So I feel like he

00:24:17.539 --> 00:24:19.819
does not need to do this again. This is a pattern

00:24:19.819 --> 00:24:23.390
that he's clearly doing. And I need to go ahead

00:24:23.390 --> 00:24:26.109
and speak out so that this doesn't continue to

00:24:26.109 --> 00:24:32.930
happen. So her story was new in L .A. And I feel

00:24:32.930 --> 00:24:35.009
like most people can sympathize with this story.

00:24:35.390 --> 00:24:38.650
You're new in L .A. You have maybe one, two people

00:24:38.650 --> 00:24:40.690
that you know that moved out here from your hometown.

00:24:41.349 --> 00:24:44.710
She wants to be a dancer. Her homeboy hit her

00:24:44.710 --> 00:24:49.750
up like, hey, I'm at this boat party. Mind you,

00:24:49.769 --> 00:24:53.720
the boat belonged to Diddy. I'm at this boat.

00:24:53.859 --> 00:24:56.140
Every chance they could, I'm going to just say

00:24:56.140 --> 00:24:59.240
this. Every chance they could add Diddy in there,

00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.039
they linked it. Now, I'm at this boat party.

00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:06.140
Chris Brown is here. Come, you know, shoot your

00:25:06.140 --> 00:25:07.559
shot. Let them know that you're new in town,

00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.099
whatever. So she comes or whatever. And she's

00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:12.920
talking to Chris, you know, about how she's a

00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:15.039
dancer and all that other stuff. And she said

00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:16.900
he really did give her encouraging words like,

00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.960
A, like, don't stop the grind. Like, this industry

00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.240
can swallow you whole, whatever, whatever, boop

00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:22.960
-de -boop -de -boom. So she said they talking,

00:25:23.019 --> 00:25:27.140
they having a good time. He's giving her a drink.

00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:28.940
She said, now this is where it gets a little

00:25:28.940 --> 00:25:31.500
foggy because I didn't exactly see him pour my

00:25:31.500 --> 00:25:33.619
drink. Rule number one. But also, you're young.

00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.519
You're young. Nobody probably told you that.

00:25:36.579 --> 00:25:40.240
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. So. giving

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:44.539
me drink i start to feel woozy you know she's

00:25:44.539 --> 00:25:46.460
thinking maybe she was drugged or it could be

00:25:46.460 --> 00:25:48.160
maybe you just can't hold your liquor who knows

00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.019
either way you're intoxicated she said that he

00:25:51.019 --> 00:25:53.500
whispers in her ear hey come on let's go talk

00:25:53.500 --> 00:25:59.339
somewhere um you know silently they go she said

00:25:59.339 --> 00:26:01.420
all of a sudden next thing you know he's like

00:26:01.420 --> 00:26:03.519
on top of her inside her and then afterwards

00:26:04.780 --> 00:26:07.099
Like, when he's finished, he takes her phone,

00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:09.000
puts his number in there, and like, hey, call

00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:11.019
me so we can link up sometime. Oh, this sounds

00:26:11.019 --> 00:26:14.579
familiar. Yeah. I said the same thing. The industry

00:26:14.579 --> 00:26:17.200
professional came up. Okay. They was like, you

00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:18.980
know what? When you're in a vulnerable situation

00:26:18.980 --> 00:26:22.930
like that, one, you know. it's clear that she's

00:26:22.930 --> 00:26:24.910
intoxicated and then you ask her let's go somewhere

00:26:24.910 --> 00:26:27.470
silently she did not physically give you consent

00:26:27.470 --> 00:26:30.190
you know yes or no but then what he made it do

00:26:30.190 --> 00:26:33.130
is he tried to gaslight her give him the number

00:26:33.130 --> 00:26:36.250
and be like come on let's link up as if she consented

00:26:36.250 --> 00:26:39.430
to this yes so that's what that's that was their

00:26:39.430 --> 00:26:42.589
positioning on that so she was like afterwards

00:26:42.589 --> 00:26:46.630
it was kind of like and i get that i get it because

00:26:46.630 --> 00:26:49.279
she was young it's kind of like Did this happen

00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.140
to me? Yeah. Yeah. Or was I really that drunk

00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:54.640
to where I was like, yeah, like, you know? Yeah.

00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:57.380
What really happened? So she was like, all right,

00:26:57.380 --> 00:27:00.319
well, I mean, he hit me up. It's Chris Brown.

00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:03.930
I'm going to hit him up. Yeah. So they started

00:27:03.930 --> 00:27:05.890
having these conversations. And she was like,

00:27:05.890 --> 00:27:08.130
now that I think about it, we FaceTimed a lot.

00:27:08.329 --> 00:27:13.250
You can't really record FaceTime. Not then. Not

00:27:13.250 --> 00:27:16.329
then. But she was like, you can't really record

00:27:16.329 --> 00:27:19.470
FaceTime and stuff like that. So she was talking

00:27:19.470 --> 00:27:21.410
about that. They used to send pictures of each

00:27:21.410 --> 00:27:22.970
other back and forth. They used to literally

00:27:22.970 --> 00:27:29.190
hang out. Yeah. I forget what happened next.

00:27:29.289 --> 00:27:33.460
But I do remember her saying, like, after. therapy

00:27:33.460 --> 00:27:36.579
or it was an incident where he just like stopped

00:27:36.579 --> 00:27:41.420
hitting her up completely um i don't know why

00:27:41.420 --> 00:27:44.740
yeah i don't know why he stopped hitting her

00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:46.599
like i feel like i'm missing something because

00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.519
there was so so much stuff i was watching um

00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.599
but anyway she was saying how she went through

00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:54.519
therapy or whatever just to kind of like make

00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:58.500
peace and make sense of everything um and then

00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:02.819
it kind of dawned on her like like you was forced

00:28:02.819 --> 00:28:06.339
upon you know so she ends up going to a lawyer

00:28:06.339 --> 00:28:08.420
or whatever and tries to show them proof now

00:28:08.420 --> 00:28:11.519
i do remember this case i remember that got thrown

00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.640
out it got thrown out because it said lack of

00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:17.119
evidence or something but on his end he had the

00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.400
text messages but it didn't have it didn't have

00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.579
his responses it only had her replies like why

00:28:23.579 --> 00:28:27.849
aren't you talking to me and but it doesn't have

00:28:27.849 --> 00:28:29.809
his response. And now when you look at hers,

00:28:29.849 --> 00:28:32.289
it has his response. It has his response. Of

00:28:32.289 --> 00:28:34.750
course. Are you deleting stuff? But his responses

00:28:34.750 --> 00:28:38.029
to some stuff, which was previously was like,

00:28:38.130 --> 00:28:41.309
okay. Or it was like short word response after

00:28:41.309 --> 00:28:46.339
they stopped talking. Yeah. Yeah. And then he

00:28:46.339 --> 00:28:49.220
completely stopped after that. But she didn't

00:28:49.220 --> 00:28:51.660
have. And this is where I got a little iffy.

00:28:51.660 --> 00:28:54.539
Because she didn't have. Certain evidence and

00:28:54.539 --> 00:28:56.359
stuff. Because she said she got a new phone.

00:28:56.740 --> 00:29:00.559
Which is. If some time went past. You're not

00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.079
going to think to hold on to this. Of course

00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:08.599
not. I get it. Especially when you gaslight into

00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:14.980
thinking. Oh he want me. And I. So this is when,

00:29:14.980 --> 00:29:21.480
um, the lawyer was just basically like, I can't,

00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.359
I can't take this case on only because of the

00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:26.240
lack of evidence. She was like, but I do know

00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:27.859
somebody who could take the case, but she was

00:29:27.859 --> 00:29:30.859
feeling so discouraged about the situation that

00:29:30.859 --> 00:29:32.960
he was lying. But then come to find out there.

00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.400
Oh, okay. This is what I'm missing. The reason

00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.400
why she said she couldn't take the case on after

00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.359
they, after they submitted the evidence in and

00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.809
all of that. And after she realized, okay, I

00:29:44.809 --> 00:29:47.930
was forced upon, she was still reaching out and

00:29:47.930 --> 00:29:49.990
texting Chris. Like, why aren't you talking to

00:29:49.990 --> 00:29:52.690
me? Why? That happened. Why? That's when the

00:29:52.690 --> 00:29:57.069
industry professional came out and said, it's

00:29:57.069 --> 00:30:03.190
kind of like a Stockholm Syndrome. Like, I'm

00:30:03.190 --> 00:30:06.930
a victim. I was captive. Not physically captive,

00:30:07.029 --> 00:30:10.329
but mentally captivated by this because he is

00:30:10.329 --> 00:30:14.069
such a big figure. And I know it was wrong, but

00:30:14.069 --> 00:30:16.750
also I felt like even though it was wrong, I

00:30:16.750 --> 00:30:19.589
felt like we grew something within that time

00:30:19.589 --> 00:30:21.890
we was messaging and all of that. It is the,

00:30:21.890 --> 00:30:24.450
it's the direction that they were going. Yeah.

00:30:24.549 --> 00:30:27.630
And it kind of makes you, yeah, it kind of makes

00:30:27.630 --> 00:30:31.720
you like. rethink some stuff but at the end completely

00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.420
at the end of the documentary they had like a

00:30:34.420 --> 00:30:36.819
like a little sister circle moment with different

00:30:36.819 --> 00:30:39.220
people from like hotlines and different stuff

00:30:39.220 --> 00:30:41.380
just like talking about the different signs to

00:30:41.380 --> 00:30:44.000
look for and all that other stuff it was a very

00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.440
informative documentary definitely had me thinking

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.539
this is my question now why did she start going

00:30:50.539 --> 00:30:54.430
to therapy in the first place She started going

00:30:54.430 --> 00:30:57.529
to there. I think she she was really conflicted

00:30:57.529 --> 00:31:00.529
and battling with herself because she felt like

00:31:00.529 --> 00:31:07.529
She went to therapy for this Issue yes Okay beat

00:31:07.529 --> 00:31:10.470
that was my reaction to because she felt like

00:31:10.470 --> 00:31:17.069
Did he I feel like he did But he's messaging

00:31:17.069 --> 00:31:19.750
me talking to me like he did and I think when

00:31:19.750 --> 00:31:21.450
he stopped communicating with her and she was

00:31:21.450 --> 00:31:25.089
feeling some type of way it's kind of like well

00:31:25.089 --> 00:31:28.150
wait a minute let me step back and reassess some

00:31:28.150 --> 00:31:31.450
stuff yeah and i think that's where it rolled

00:31:31.450 --> 00:31:35.069
out again because i believe this is after she

00:31:35.069 --> 00:31:37.670
came out the first time and then she tried to

00:31:37.670 --> 00:31:39.529
double back and like why aren't you talking to

00:31:39.529 --> 00:31:42.210
me you know yeah i don't know it's it's such

00:31:42.210 --> 00:31:44.910
a sticky situation and i hate it so much and

00:31:44.910 --> 00:31:46.589
you would think that you would learn from this

00:31:46.589 --> 00:31:51.230
yeah and i would hate to say that this is a it's

00:31:51.230 --> 00:31:55.930
a repetitive thing It's repetitive. It does get

00:31:55.930 --> 00:31:59.789
sticky. Sticky, icky, icky. Because we're on

00:31:59.789 --> 00:32:02.049
the outside looking in. I feel like whenever

00:32:02.049 --> 00:32:11.490
drugs are involved, it's like... Like, I can't

00:32:11.490 --> 00:32:13.569
make any excuse for anyone and the things that

00:32:13.569 --> 00:32:16.829
they do when they're on drugs. But also, drugs

00:32:16.829 --> 00:32:20.230
really be fucked you up. And that's where it

00:32:20.230 --> 00:32:26.519
really comes... it really comes oh they they

00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:28.460
was also talking about when he remember when

00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:32.039
he um checked himself into rehab he checked himself

00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:38.079
into rehab his his mom came to visit and i guess

00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.039
like he was feeling so homesick he wanted to

00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:41.799
go with his mom his mom was like no you need

00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.019
to stay here a little bit longer he got mad followed

00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:46.920
his mom outside and threw a brick through a car

00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:53.990
window I ain't even going to hold you. But the

00:32:53.990 --> 00:32:56.730
elders down south always said, however you treat

00:32:56.730 --> 00:32:58.730
your mama is how you treat your women. Yeah.

00:32:59.509 --> 00:33:01.690
So now that right there, I feel like that right

00:33:01.690 --> 00:33:05.829
there is when I was like, oh, he did it. Baby,

00:33:05.829 --> 00:33:07.430
listen, you did it. That's when he was like,

00:33:07.569 --> 00:33:09.730
you did it. Because if you throwing a brick through

00:33:09.730 --> 00:33:17.069
your mama's car window. I think it's just, did

00:33:17.069 --> 00:33:19.640
you come up thinking that's okay? Or were you

00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:24.099
in withdrawals? I just don't trust none of the

00:33:24.099 --> 00:33:30.299
drugs. Once it gets in your system, you do certain

00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:33.680
stuff. But I don't know. I don't do drugs. Yeah,

00:33:33.700 --> 00:33:35.279
I don't know either. So would it really take

00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.019
me out of my character that much? I feel like

00:33:38.019 --> 00:33:39.980
the hard stuff would, but you only get the hard

00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:41.359
stuff when you start making money like that.

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:47.109
But my thing is, what? I'm not saying that everybody

00:33:47.109 --> 00:33:49.890
is like this, but I feel like when you're signing

00:33:49.890 --> 00:33:52.190
these young kids at a young age, you're getting

00:33:52.190 --> 00:33:55.029
this boy from this country -ass town that's in

00:33:55.029 --> 00:33:58.309
and out of rehab, that has trauma, and you are

00:33:58.309 --> 00:34:01.509
not putting resources in to kind of help him

00:34:01.509 --> 00:34:06.579
yet to develop before he gets big enough. On

00:34:06.579 --> 00:34:08.420
a different level to fuck some shit up more.

00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.659
Because once you get to a certain level. You

00:34:10.659 --> 00:34:12.659
start getting money. It's up from there. You

00:34:12.659 --> 00:34:14.579
feel like you're invincible. As we're seeing

00:34:14.579 --> 00:34:16.820
with all of these celebrities. Doing this crazy

00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:20.280
shit now. It's ridiculous. And that brings me

00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.380
to. So they definitely need to have something

00:34:22.380 --> 00:34:24.780
in place. They should. Which I don't even think

00:34:24.780 --> 00:34:27.940
they do now. And they still seize. You want to

00:34:27.940 --> 00:34:30.840
know why they don't though? Why? They make more

00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.409
money. When their artist is either in jail or,

00:34:34.469 --> 00:34:37.710
God forbid, six feet underground. Oh, yeah. I

00:34:37.710 --> 00:34:39.369
heard that. Because sales go up. And they get

00:34:39.369 --> 00:34:42.230
insurance policies off of these boys. I did hear

00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:46.289
that, too. That's ridiculous. That is ridiculous.

00:34:46.650 --> 00:34:50.070
There's no amount of fame in this world. Like,

00:34:50.070 --> 00:34:53.889
I get that with your talents, you can be able

00:34:53.889 --> 00:34:56.190
to, you know, get your people out the gutter

00:34:56.190 --> 00:34:58.429
or whatever the case may be. Have a life that

00:34:58.429 --> 00:35:03.309
you've only dreamt of come true. But to what

00:35:03.309 --> 00:35:07.150
extent are you willing to go for it? Mm -hmm.

00:35:07.869 --> 00:35:12.010
Oh, whatever extent. You need. And they know

00:35:12.010 --> 00:35:13.550
that. The companies don't care about you. They

00:35:13.550 --> 00:35:16.989
don't. They know that. We are in the business

00:35:16.989 --> 00:35:20.670
of making money. But would it hurt you to have

00:35:20.670 --> 00:35:23.530
something like that put in place? Have a psychiatrist?

00:35:23.949 --> 00:35:28.070
Even if you don't come from, you know, a rough

00:35:28.070 --> 00:35:31.980
upbringing or anything. if you're well off you

00:35:31.980 --> 00:35:34.480
still gonna need a psychiatrist to take you through

00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.800
this fame shit look the thing about it is though

00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.980
they're not gonna have that because what a healthy

00:35:38.980 --> 00:35:42.340
patient or a healthy artist is not a profitable

00:35:42.340 --> 00:35:46.340
one the more fucked up you are the more money

00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:49.800
we can make off of you that is true and that

00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.280
brings me to my next documentary that i'll watch

00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:56.019
which is meg the hot girly herself what's good

00:35:56.969 --> 00:35:59.590
did she even have to have one i felt like i know

00:35:59.590 --> 00:36:04.110
everything again wait i just said and then i'm

00:36:04.110 --> 00:36:07.309
like what they said what but also yeah not even

00:36:07.309 --> 00:36:10.050
gonna hold you or i've already made up all these

00:36:10.050 --> 00:36:13.190
stories in my mind where i feel like i know everything

00:36:13.190 --> 00:36:15.489
not gonna hold you we got no answers from the

00:36:15.489 --> 00:36:18.349
from from i'm not surprised no answers i feel

00:36:18.349 --> 00:36:21.210
like in my wholehearted opinion which she did

00:36:21.210 --> 00:36:28.070
need some sort of PR to kind of sway her name

00:36:28.070 --> 00:36:30.869
a little bit. Sway her name a little bit. Okay,

00:36:30.949 --> 00:36:33.230
so I will say she did not mention party at all.

00:36:33.650 --> 00:36:37.050
For what? She did not mention that at all. In

00:36:37.050 --> 00:36:40.309
my mind, if you're having a documentary, I need

00:36:40.309 --> 00:36:43.309
everything. Nobody cares. But my thing is though.

00:36:43.309 --> 00:36:47.170
You dated him? You cheated on him? Basically.

00:36:47.409 --> 00:36:51.570
But my biggest thing is, okay, now she did admit

00:36:51.570 --> 00:36:56.570
that she lied. on Gail's what's -her -name about

00:36:56.570 --> 00:36:59.429
sleeping with Tori. Oh, well, baby, if that wasn't

00:36:59.429 --> 00:37:02.150
obvious. If that wasn't obvious, we know that.

00:37:02.269 --> 00:37:04.210
Everyone know y 'all was talking. But honestly,

00:37:04.530 --> 00:37:08.210
just like she said, at the end of the day, yes,

00:37:08.429 --> 00:37:11.670
me and my best friend had beef. Why is that important?

00:37:11.949 --> 00:37:14.710
Yes, I messed with Tori Lanes. Why is that important?

00:37:15.010 --> 00:37:20.769
The fact is I have a hole in my foot. Yeah. That

00:37:20.769 --> 00:37:22.849
is the only thing people should be worried about.

00:37:23.409 --> 00:37:26.690
Granted, the whys, and I feel like this is where

00:37:26.690 --> 00:37:29.369
people get shit misconstrued. We don't need to

00:37:29.369 --> 00:37:33.349
know the whys of anything. It is evident. The

00:37:33.349 --> 00:37:36.690
hole is in her foot. But they want to know who

00:37:36.690 --> 00:37:38.769
did it. They want to know who did it. That's

00:37:38.769 --> 00:37:40.329
what the case is. And that's why you got to go

00:37:40.329 --> 00:37:42.630
back to the why. That's why you got to go back

00:37:42.630 --> 00:37:46.050
to the why. I mean, I feel personally as somebody

00:37:46.050 --> 00:37:52.960
who... who likes a level of privacy. Baby, I

00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.320
got shot in the foot. He the one who did it.

00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.579
Hear me, hear me. What was the point of bringing

00:37:57.579 --> 00:38:01.039
it back up? Everything's been going well for

00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.599
her. Well, it was a good... right he he's still

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.119
talking his job but i think he'll talk and shit

00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:10.760
to be completely honest after watching the documentary

00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.099
i feel like it was more for her than it was for

00:38:13.099 --> 00:38:15.300
us i feel like it was more therapeutic because

00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:18.570
she did give us a little bit of insight of um

00:38:18.570 --> 00:38:21.210
her how her mom passed away in 2019 because she

00:38:21.210 --> 00:38:22.869
had a brain tumor her mom was her number one

00:38:22.869 --> 00:38:26.329
thing her mom was her manager she was also saying

00:38:26.329 --> 00:38:29.769
how she was physically performing but she was

00:38:29.769 --> 00:38:31.909
never happy the people around her was drinking

00:38:31.909 --> 00:38:34.690
and she was drinking which came into play that

00:38:34.690 --> 00:38:36.849
that kind of bottled up which came into play

00:38:36.849 --> 00:38:39.929
with her fucking mitori lanes and how every friend

00:38:39.929 --> 00:38:42.010
ain't your friend and kind of but what really

00:38:42.010 --> 00:38:44.989
shocked me i knew that her and kelsey was friends

00:38:44.989 --> 00:38:47.550
but i never knew the extent of their friendship

00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:51.019
they've been friends yeah from back in texas

00:38:51.019 --> 00:38:55.000
yeah baby you switch up on me like that we knew

00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.820
that i knew that i didn't know that i didn't

00:38:57.820 --> 00:39:00.360
follow the case and i knew that i didn't know

00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:06.019
that that after his baby album and everything

00:39:06.019 --> 00:39:07.860
came out you know what she didn't mention though

00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:10.739
he was my best friend you know she didn't mention

00:39:10.739 --> 00:39:12.699
though what she didn't mention that they was

00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.550
at kylie's house oh everybody knew that yeah

00:39:15.550 --> 00:39:17.530
everybody knew that but i'm saying the documentary

00:39:17.530 --> 00:39:19.449
left out certain things on purpose that's why

00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:21.170
i was like i feel like she just didn't say it

00:39:21.170 --> 00:39:24.030
in the doc yeah i feel like because it is again

00:39:24.030 --> 00:39:26.989
why does it matter why does it matter yeah exactly

00:39:26.989 --> 00:39:29.789
but i think yeah i was at somebody rich yeah

00:39:29.789 --> 00:39:33.630
but i think people were expecting detail to detail

00:39:33.630 --> 00:39:36.210
to detail to detail because what they wanted

00:39:36.210 --> 00:39:38.849
to know was who shot you yep are you gonna switch

00:39:38.849 --> 00:39:41.949
it up from who shot you yep Now now that she

00:39:41.949 --> 00:39:44.389
says she went and lied on Gil King. Everybody

00:39:44.389 --> 00:39:47.989
gonna think you're a liar. Yep. After we already

00:39:47.989 --> 00:39:50.389
knew y 'all. But she even said I said that because

00:39:50.389 --> 00:39:52.309
I didn't want the conversation to be swayed by.

00:39:52.389 --> 00:39:54.269
But it ended up being that conversation anyway

00:39:54.269 --> 00:39:57.570
because she hesitated. So that ended up being

00:39:57.570 --> 00:40:01.530
a conversation anyway. But it's also like why?

00:40:02.369 --> 00:40:04.389
I don't even know why Gil asked that question.

00:40:05.260 --> 00:40:07.059
I mean, the people wanted to know. They wanted

00:40:07.059 --> 00:40:09.780
to know. For sure. It's television entertainment.

00:40:09.900 --> 00:40:12.039
Like, yes, I was sleeping with him. Yes, my friend

00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.780
was sleeping with him. We was upset about it,

00:40:14.820 --> 00:40:17.820
but he shot me. Mm -hmm. Because then they want

00:40:17.820 --> 00:40:20.519
to know, well, who shot you? It's just too messy,

00:40:20.579 --> 00:40:22.119
and it's still messy, and now it brings it up

00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.539
again, especially now that Tory is in the headlines.

00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.260
He's talking about suing his lawyer because it

00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:33.280
was Roc Nation. Or his lawyer has something to

00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.059
do with Roc Nation or something, which of course

00:40:35.059 --> 00:40:37.980
Meg was signed under. So now he feel like everything

00:40:37.980 --> 00:40:42.500
was all messed up. Oh my gosh. My thing with

00:40:42.500 --> 00:40:46.980
that whole situation is I don't know the story.

00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.380
It's messy. But y 'all was fucking. You shot

00:40:52.380 --> 00:40:55.199
her. Time had passed in between. If you would

00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:59.460
have shut the fuck up, then maybe. she wouldn't

00:40:59.460 --> 00:41:01.539
have came out because time had passed you made

00:41:01.539 --> 00:41:04.159
a whole album antagonizing and poking at her

00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.880
and then had a damn horse leg was cutting it

00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:11.000
up in the music video and that's what she said

00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:14.460
and this brings me to my point she said i lied

00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:19.260
at first to say i didn't know who did it because

00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:21.440
i did not want another black man in the system

00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:26.420
and i feel like this is the same thing um oh

00:41:26.420 --> 00:41:31.150
my gosh Who said this? Somebody recently. Dang,

00:41:31.449 --> 00:41:33.829
I can't. And I wanted to make this valid point.

00:41:33.929 --> 00:41:37.170
But anywho, somebody recently just said that

00:41:37.170 --> 00:41:39.510
that's a celebrity. There's something going on.

00:41:39.650 --> 00:41:43.550
Recently said the same thing. There is no way

00:41:43.550 --> 00:41:48.730
in hell. You were not thinking about me in this

00:41:48.730 --> 00:41:50.489
situation when you put that bullet in my foot

00:41:50.489 --> 00:41:53.650
that I'm literally going to sit here and protect

00:41:53.650 --> 00:41:59.539
you over my mental health. baby listen justice

00:41:59.539 --> 00:42:03.119
needs to be served be humble justice needs to

00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:08.079
be served also i'm not protecting you i get it

00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:11.440
i get it i'm also not protecting but you wasn't

00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.179
protecting me when you shot me that i don't have

00:42:14.179 --> 00:42:20.239
feelings for we slept together a couple times

00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.980
i don't have feelings and she said she said they

00:42:23.980 --> 00:42:27.000
only slept together twice and she was She was

00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.639
drunk both times. I don't know why that mattered.

00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.019
But she also said, I think she brought up that

00:42:34.019 --> 00:42:36.619
point that she was drunk because she was also

00:42:36.619 --> 00:42:39.119
in mourning of her mother and she was substance

00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.320
abuse. Okay, so she was in a different state.

00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.559
Did you sleep with him or did you sleep with

00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.119
him? I don't know why that mattered. I slept

00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.809
with him. Yeah. it doesn't matter honestly i

00:42:49.809 --> 00:42:52.170
wouldn't i wouldn't even said that i wouldn't

00:42:52.170 --> 00:42:54.030
even i honestly wouldn't even say but i think

00:42:54.030 --> 00:42:56.250
she wanted to say she wasn't really fucking with

00:42:56.250 --> 00:42:57.829
him like that she was in a different headspace

00:42:57.829 --> 00:43:01.010
that's why they had slept together but that it

00:43:01.010 --> 00:43:03.590
don't even matter y 'all slept together don't

00:43:03.590 --> 00:43:05.590
take away the fact it don't take away also nobody

00:43:05.590 --> 00:43:10.250
cares people care oh people care people care

00:43:10.250 --> 00:43:14.199
i mean i don't care because i don't like And

00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.539
then she also felt some type of way about Kelsey,

00:43:16.780 --> 00:43:19.820
like not having her back. I would feel some type

00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:23.280
of way about that. Like, okay, I get it. You

00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.260
was with him and I messed with your man. Whatever.

00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.780
But for you to sit there and say you don't know

00:43:28.780 --> 00:43:33.340
what happened? Baby, listen. I was there. I messed

00:43:33.340 --> 00:43:35.559
with your man. You my best friend. We've been

00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:40.800
friends for a decade. A decade. And was y 'all

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.949
getting married? I don't know. Like, I'm going

00:43:44.949 --> 00:43:46.309
to be mad if somebody isn't sleeping with me.

00:43:46.869 --> 00:43:49.210
I'll be pissed. I'll be pissed. But still, like

00:43:49.210 --> 00:43:52.570
y 'all celebrities. Yeah. I don't know. We have

00:43:52.570 --> 00:43:55.869
other problems. Yeah, girl. Then who's sleeping

00:43:55.869 --> 00:43:59.690
with who? I'm sorry. I'm mega stallion. And then

00:43:59.690 --> 00:44:01.710
she was like, while I was going through all this,

00:44:01.849 --> 00:44:04.110
she also felt like nobody was in her corner.

00:44:04.250 --> 00:44:05.949
She had to stay off the internet. She was going

00:44:05.949 --> 00:44:08.369
through depression. Everybody was coming at her.

00:44:08.429 --> 00:44:10.309
They were. Which I was confused about because

00:44:10.309 --> 00:44:12.650
I'm like, but she did get shot though. Yeah.

00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:15.880
are like you're a liar are we missing the fact

00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.420
that this girl did she got shot i don't think

00:44:18.420 --> 00:44:19.940
they should have came at her the way that they

00:44:19.940 --> 00:44:22.659
came at her and it was no point of you coming

00:44:22.659 --> 00:44:27.659
like i did get shot okay like you jealous baby

00:44:27.659 --> 00:44:30.099
and when they did that the clip there was a clip

00:44:30.099 --> 00:44:34.369
chris brown they did it in the mag yes that's

00:44:34.369 --> 00:44:36.570
why i said they're kind of connected now if we

00:44:36.570 --> 00:44:38.690
was on tiktok i know somebody could connect this

00:44:38.690 --> 00:44:41.190
a mile away but i'm gonna just do a little bit

00:44:41.190 --> 00:44:45.590
go back to ditties oh yeah and it is listen so

00:44:45.590 --> 00:44:48.530
they had a clip where she was like in the men

00:44:48.530 --> 00:44:51.309
in the industry i don't i don't understand how

00:44:51.309 --> 00:44:53.110
y 'all can never have my back when the fact is

00:44:53.110 --> 00:44:57.000
i got shot chris was on um it was one of those

00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.579
gaming podcast it was like some sort of gaming

00:44:59.579 --> 00:45:01.940
podcast or something and he mentioned you know

00:45:01.940 --> 00:45:04.420
you know free my man free my man story lanes

00:45:04.420 --> 00:45:08.179
and then there was another one another clip with

00:45:08.179 --> 00:45:10.400
diddy and uh mind you these are the only two

00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.860
clips they use of course there was a clip the

00:45:12.860 --> 00:45:16.159
same person that made both documentaries no no

00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.800
no it's not no because mags was on amazon and

00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.000
then chris was on investigation she was not about

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.920
to do that so they had a clip of Diddy like on

00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.119
live with Tory Lanez and him telling Tory Lanez,

00:45:29.139 --> 00:45:31.420
you know, like you're my favorite R &B artist,

00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.820
you know, so keep your head up. So of course

00:45:35.820 --> 00:45:37.900
they had that. And I was like, dang, I was like,

00:45:37.940 --> 00:45:40.239
but look, what's the likelihood that they make

00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.380
that connection? Cause Meg's came out like October

00:45:42.380 --> 00:45:45.099
31st and Chris's documentary came out like October

00:45:45.099 --> 00:45:51.920
26th, 27th, something like that. they had a whole

00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.059
bunch of people to pick from but anything hip

00:45:55.059 --> 00:45:58.440
hop anything negative is gonna have Diddy and

00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:01.360
I guess now Chris Brown and now R. Kelly they

00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.820
putting him all in the same I mean R. Kelly for

00:46:04.820 --> 00:46:13.679
sure but the question that dawns on me why now

00:46:14.269 --> 00:46:17.050
I get why Meg did it now because she's finally

00:46:17.050 --> 00:46:19.230
at a place where she can heal whatever the case

00:46:19.230 --> 00:46:21.570
is over. Cool. But everything is going to open

00:46:21.570 --> 00:46:24.329
back up. This is going to be a continuous conversation.

00:46:24.929 --> 00:46:26.670
Honestly, I feel like it's always going to be

00:46:26.670 --> 00:46:28.550
a continuous conversation because Tori is not

00:46:28.550 --> 00:46:30.769
shutting up. It's always going to be a thing.

00:46:30.849 --> 00:46:33.929
But my thing is why now with the Chris documentary

00:46:33.929 --> 00:46:36.610
and then it's not a coincidence that that documentary

00:46:36.610 --> 00:46:40.409
came out and then they got a clip of him bashing

00:46:40.409 --> 00:46:45.070
a black woman again. Yeah. In this other documentary.

00:46:46.610 --> 00:46:49.050
They trying to take him down. They taking him

00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:50.989
down. But they already took him down. They ain't

00:46:50.989 --> 00:46:54.449
never bring him back. But you know what's also

00:46:54.449 --> 00:46:58.989
oddly crazy is. Right now the Grammys. He has

00:46:58.989 --> 00:47:01.349
three Grammy nominations. I don't even think

00:47:01.349 --> 00:47:03.510
he's allowed to perform. Why are y 'all nominating

00:47:03.510 --> 00:47:06.510
him? He's probably not even allowed to attend.

00:47:07.030 --> 00:47:08.590
That's what I said. He's not allowed to attend.

00:47:08.849 --> 00:47:10.090
He's not allowed to perform. And remember the

00:47:10.090 --> 00:47:13.469
AMAs. And then especially now that this documentary

00:47:13.469 --> 00:47:16.750
is out, now that this documentary is out, they're

00:47:16.750 --> 00:47:18.630
not going to have him there because it's not

00:47:18.630 --> 00:47:21.550
going to look good for optics. Why have him in

00:47:21.550 --> 00:47:25.130
the nominees? Why? Well, they can't say your

00:47:25.130 --> 00:47:28.389
work is not speaking volumes. And that's where

00:47:28.389 --> 00:47:32.309
it comes. Now, the industry, y 'all always saying

00:47:32.309 --> 00:47:35.769
we can't do, we need to protect. We can't be

00:47:35.769 --> 00:47:39.570
glorifying these abusers. But then you nominate

00:47:39.570 --> 00:47:42.670
the man. But then it's like, okay, well, if y

00:47:42.670 --> 00:47:44.789
'all aren't separating the artist from the person,

00:47:44.909 --> 00:47:50.989
why should we be condemned for not separating

00:47:50.989 --> 00:47:52.969
the artist from the person? That's a good point.

00:47:54.309 --> 00:47:56.820
That's all I'm saying. That's a good point because

00:47:56.820 --> 00:47:59.199
I don't know. That's all I'm saying. That's all

00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:00.119
I'm saying. Like, I'm going to give you your

00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:03.139
accolades, but you can't come. That's all I'm

00:48:03.139 --> 00:48:07.099
saying. But you can't come. who's next but keep

00:48:07.099 --> 00:48:09.360
checking the job who's next because they get

00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.139
everybody out of here oh they do an investigation

00:48:12.139 --> 00:48:14.159
on everything they say jay -z but i don't think

00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.760
they gonna hit they ain't never gonna get jay

00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:18.460
-z i don't think they gonna hit uh on tiktok

00:48:18.460 --> 00:48:21.039
when they try to be like jay -z and beyonce they

00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:23.900
never gonna get that but on tiktok a psychic

00:48:23.900 --> 00:48:32.000
said that mc hammer was i was like please let

00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.019
that man rest like i don't even want to hear

00:48:34.019 --> 00:48:38.719
shit about mc hammer please i was already discombobulated

00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:42.320
when they got uh bill cosby old ass let this

00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:49.559
fucking 90 year old man like i don't even know

00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.099
bro that's a whole nother story for it i don't

00:48:52.099 --> 00:48:55.940
know i'm like what artist is good at this point

00:48:55.940 --> 00:49:01.170
but then i thought selena gomez Honestly, I feel

00:49:01.170 --> 00:49:04.530
like after we... I thought Selena, but you gonna

00:49:04.530 --> 00:49:07.650
find something about everybody. Look, if we cancel

00:49:07.650 --> 00:49:09.329
everybody, we ain't gonna have nothing to listen

00:49:09.329 --> 00:49:14.349
to. Oh, well. Well, that's all I got for this

00:49:14.349 --> 00:49:17.210
episode. That was a good one. That was a lot.

00:49:17.269 --> 00:49:19.269
It was juicy. Like, I feel like I might want

00:49:19.269 --> 00:49:21.130
to watch it, but also I don't want my opinions

00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:22.409
to be tainted. You don't want the views to be,

00:49:22.429 --> 00:49:24.389
yeah. Like, because I just went to Chris Brown

00:49:24.389 --> 00:49:29.599
concert. And it was amazing. We go after that

00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:33.000
like, it was amazing, man. Can I separate the

00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:37.039
art from the person? Do I make up excuses? And

00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:38.420
that's the biggest question. Because of drugs.

00:49:39.179 --> 00:49:42.179
That is the biggest question. I don't know. I

00:49:42.179 --> 00:49:46.380
like Meg. You know what, Meg? I'm over the story.

00:49:46.619 --> 00:49:50.199
I will say. Do I love Tori? I fucking love Tori's

00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.860
artistry. I don't know you as a person. See how

00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:57.099
shitty? I don't know. I will say the documentary.

00:49:58.289 --> 00:50:01.869
Showed me a different side of me. Yeah Because

00:50:01.869 --> 00:50:03.710
well, that's because you didn't hear about it.

00:50:03.730 --> 00:50:04.969
You didn't hear she was going through all this.

00:50:04.989 --> 00:50:07.170
Yeah I mean I listened to the one album and I

00:50:07.170 --> 00:50:08.670
heard that she was going through all this stuff.

00:50:08.750 --> 00:50:13.579
Yeah, and I get it But also, it's like, who has

00:50:13.579 --> 00:50:16.099
the time to, and this is another thing, because

00:50:16.099 --> 00:50:18.059
I feel like everything in the entertainment industry

00:50:18.059 --> 00:50:21.059
is so orchestrated that, okay, yes, you were

00:50:21.059 --> 00:50:24.179
documenting stuff from 2019. Listen, you was

00:50:24.179 --> 00:50:26.300
documenting stuff from 2019 when your mother

00:50:26.300 --> 00:50:30.920
was still alive. Push them off. You have all

00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.559
this footage right and then it was really cute

00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:35.400
cuz she's in the anime So the stuff she didn't

00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:36.860
have footage for it was like an anime that was

00:50:36.860 --> 00:50:41.219
cute But you also you have behind -the -scenes

00:50:41.219 --> 00:50:45.519
footage of you going through this trial That

00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.739
gave me a little bit of pause I I guess to clear

00:50:49.739 --> 00:50:53.420
her name But it's not clear. That could have

00:50:53.420 --> 00:50:55.599
cleared nothing. That could have caused more

00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:58.320
questions. And honestly, to give her the benefit

00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.219
of the doubt, that could have been her PR and

00:51:00.219 --> 00:51:03.300
her manager telling her, you need to do this.

00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.719
Like, everything was beautiful from what I hear.

00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.699
The animation, beautiful. The vulnerability,

00:51:11.019 --> 00:51:12.900
beautiful. But then you had to bring up the case.

00:51:13.380 --> 00:51:14.480
Because that's what people want to hear. So was

00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:18.420
it just about the case? Yeah. Oh, so she did

00:51:18.420 --> 00:51:20.610
a documentary just about the case. About her

00:51:20.610 --> 00:51:23.710
mama. It really led into. Let it be about the

00:51:23.710 --> 00:51:26.690
time of your life. Let it be you evolving as

00:51:26.690 --> 00:51:28.949
a person. But that's the thing. That's what her

00:51:28.949 --> 00:51:31.590
life. You got to think about how young she is.

00:51:31.829 --> 00:51:34.250
Yeah. She literally came. You're still in school.

00:51:34.489 --> 00:51:37.670
You got your mama. That is your rock. Your mom

00:51:37.670 --> 00:51:39.869
passed away right at the start of your career.

00:51:40.050 --> 00:51:42.989
And right at the start of your career. COVID

00:51:42.989 --> 00:51:45.369
hit. And then you go through the shoot. So really

00:51:45.369 --> 00:51:50.079
and honestly. This is your life. Okay. so i get

00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:57.139
it better is it too early to wish for her and

00:51:57.139 --> 00:52:01.619
the baby to make up no oh that they did another

00:52:01.619 --> 00:52:06.239
clip of the baby too so he might be next oh my

00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:10.469
god i forgot about that But that's one thing

00:52:10.469 --> 00:52:12.409
I don't understand. How do you have so many songs

00:52:12.409 --> 00:52:14.389
with me, but then you over here going to bring,

00:52:14.510 --> 00:52:17.050
you going to bring Tory Lanez out on a set after

00:52:17.050 --> 00:52:19.929
me? How dare you? He did that. You little midget.

00:52:19.989 --> 00:52:23.550
He did that. That was, that was. That's disrespectful.

00:52:24.110 --> 00:52:26.570
It was disrespectful. And it is a slap in my

00:52:26.570 --> 00:52:28.090
face. And in the middle of the case. Because

00:52:28.090 --> 00:52:30.090
I am going through all of this. It's a slap in

00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:32.269
my face. But you was worried about your career.

00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:34.610
And you like, let me bring out somebody that's

00:52:34.610 --> 00:52:37.829
popular. Or did you do that on purpose? He had

00:52:37.829 --> 00:52:41.210
to have did it on purpose. Nobody believed her.

00:52:41.389 --> 00:52:43.989
But I'm not even going to hold you. Where the

00:52:43.989 --> 00:52:46.690
baby at now? He trying to climb his way back.

00:52:46.909 --> 00:52:49.269
He trying. It ain't working. Because he on the

00:52:49.269 --> 00:52:51.030
diddy train right now, too. And he ain't even

00:52:51.030 --> 00:52:52.809
got nothing to tell. You ain't even got nothing

00:52:52.809 --> 00:52:55.449
to tell. Ain't got diddy in your mouth. That's

00:52:55.449 --> 00:52:56.849
what he said, though. I ain't got nothing to

00:52:56.849 --> 00:53:01.239
tell. Doofy. I don't know. All right. Well, that

00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:03.239
brings us to the end of this podcast. But for

00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:07.780
our unpopular opinion, I do believe that Stevie

00:53:07.780 --> 00:53:11.719
Wonder can see just a little bit. He was not

00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:14.139
always blind. I know he wasn't always blind,

00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:16.079
but I feel like right now I feel like he can

00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:18.739
see a little bit. He has memes of him holding

00:53:18.739 --> 00:53:24.139
a camera. He fucking with you. Like my popular

00:53:24.139 --> 00:53:26.500
opinion, Stevie be fucking with us. He might

00:53:26.500 --> 00:53:31.539
be. But thank you for listening to Are We? everybody's

00:53:31.539 --> 00:53:35.719
canceled everybody's canceled after this episode

00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.500
bye y 'all
