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Hello!

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You there!

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Welcome to another episode of A Spoonful of Theatre.

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I'm TJ, theatre practitioner, director and performer.

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And I'm Sam Sam, a teacher of language, literature and self-proclaimed show business,

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Luvvie.

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This is our podcast where we spill the tea on all things Singapore theatre.

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It's Tea Time!

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And today's episode is titled Sincerely, Angelo.

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Because we have the exclusive after-show interview with Singapore's newest star, Angelo Martinez,

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after his starring role in Dear Evan Hansen.

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Yes, so don't move an inch as we're about to delve into his experience and find out

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what his debut performance has meant to him.

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But for now, pop the kettle on, grab a biccy and let's add a spoonful of theatre to sweeten

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up your day.

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Oh Sam, we are back.

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We're back.

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What?

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We're a month old.

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We are.

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It's fabulous, isn't it?

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You've not been a month old for a while.

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You cheeky cow!

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Now while the kettle is boiling and our guest is on the way, I personally just want to say

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thank you for everyone for tuning in.

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As always, this podcast is growing and it is only growing because you guys are apparently

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Okay.

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We really appreciate it because we really want this to celebrate all of Singapore Theatre

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So thank you all very much.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Dear listeners.

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How you been love?

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I have been wonderful.

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I had a holiday.

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Where you been?

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No, I went to Taipei.

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I had a lovely time in Taipei and I also had a lovely few days in Koh Samui as well.

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Very lucky, very fortunate, nice and rested.

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Oh, yes.

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You had a gorgeous hotel, didn't you?

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Oh, it was beautiful.

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The second hotel, but we're not going to get into that on the podcast.

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And I also theatre land wise, of course, we closed Dear Evan Hansen, but I also went

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to watch Mongol Khan, which we spoke about on the last episode.

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And I actually really enjoyed it.

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I didn't, I didn't know what I was in for.

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But it was this beautiful ensemble theatre piece.

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And I'd just been teaching actually Greek theatre at school, which is, you know, all

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very ensemble heavy stuff and although it was Mongolian.

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It was kind of had a lot of Greek theatre kind of pictures and stage pictures and ensemble

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work and I loved it.

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So yeah, I did that.

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Why you been up to Sam Sam?

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Well, it was a lot really.

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But I'm still recovering from it actually.

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I went to be a BWay Rave.

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Yes, the Broadway dance party.

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Yes, a first in Singapore.

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Yes.

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So it was lovely to go to.

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And I have to give kudos and snaps to Rachel and Alicia.

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I just love the idea of you doing snaps.

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That's hilarious.

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Snaps.

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I have to give give give full credit to Rachel and Alicia and to the DJ Dwayne as well.

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I'll be honest, it was a little bit more rave than Broadway, if I'm honest.

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But there was some you know, I was very grateful that Somewhere Over the Rainbow came on.

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Oh, you you you were in your element.

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And I think when when we had the Broadway tunes, I think every the entire room erupted.

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I think I you know, I wish them all the best and I hope it comes back because I had a great

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time.

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I really do.

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Because I'll tell you why.

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Because it was another space for the theatre kids.

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And I really looked forward to another one in the new year.

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Absolutely.

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Well done.

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Well done.

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The team behind Broadway Rave.

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Go follow them on IG and go support that because we loved it.

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Now in other news, before we get to our interview, there was some quite big news actually this

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month from the Necessary Stage who organise the M1 Fringe Festival.

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M1 have been title sponsor for that for many, many years.

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And the kind of producer hat coming on here.

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Most things in Singapore, we can only put them on with sponsorship.

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So finding a sponsor for anything such as the M1 Fringe Festival is a big deal when

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that changes and finding title sponsors for anything right now is almost impossible.

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So they are in a bit of a predicament in future editions.

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I think they're sponsoring the next one, but the kind of future of the festival is a little

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And I really hope that they find some supporters for that.

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But a shout out to all of our listeners.

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The M1 Fringe Festival is coming up next year.

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And I think we can all go and support it and share how how important is the theatre landscape.

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We'll be there.

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We'll be there.

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Now our guest is almost here.

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I think it's time to tell everyone who our guest is for this episode.

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It is ladies and gentlemen, it is Evan Hansen himself.

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It's Angelo Martinez.

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We have Angelo with us and we are hoping to pick his brains on everything about the show,

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how how he got the role, how he felt during rehearsals, how the shows went for him.

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And also what next?

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What is he going to do after after his debut role?

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What's he going to get up to after that?

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I think we should find out.

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Let's do it.

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Sam, we are joined by our guests.

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Oh, hello, darling.

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How are you, sweetheart?

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Hi, I'm I'm I'm so tired.

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I'm good.

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I'm good.

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I'm good.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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And as you are in the studio, how have you been?

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How has the past 24 hours been?

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Oh, it's been very thankfully very quiet.

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Well deserved.

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Sleeping the whole the whole day.

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Yeah, but it's great.

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It's great to finally just catch up and let my body rest.

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I think after the past two months.

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Oh my God, it's been two months.

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Oh, God.

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And the look of realisation that came into those eyes.

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Oh my God.

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As he said it, your eyes just went, wow.

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It's really it's almost like it's as I look back at it, I'm almost did it just happen?

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Oh, that just happened.

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How many shows was it in those 33 33 shows?

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My goodness.

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33 shows and the last show was the last weekend, of course, was a four show weekend.

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Just a really like so.

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Just a nail it right into the ground.

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Knock it out of the park.

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33 shows.

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That's crazy.

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And just just for context, we are recording this on Tuesday and the show closed on Sunday

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and the show party closed on Monday, technically.

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It's Monday.

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We're really we're really like we're really less than 48 hours since you properly wrapped

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the show.

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100 percent.

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And how's the come down sort of going?

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Is it are you done?

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Are you is it is it a process?

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It hasn't been that kind of stark of a jump because I think my mind is still in the show.

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But of course, at the end of the day, there's actually so much kind of like physical relief

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because of how demanding the role was.

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I can really feel the toll that it's taken on my body.

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Really?

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In what way?

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I think I didn't realise how much sleep that I have taken on, especially because, you know,

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I mean, I think we all can agree when you know, you know, when you're doing theatre

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and when you're doing shows and the stress that comes from it, you don't have great night's

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sleep, you know, every night.

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Because your mind is still buzzing from the show or the rehearsals.

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And then after that, when you when you actually go and you finish the show and you close it

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and you're like, oh, my God, my body is just it's not there.

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So I think I will probably still need like a month of holiday to actually.

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Oh, I don't blame you, dear.

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At least.

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Holiday massage.

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Like whatever you do to everything.

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Oh, my God.

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I mean, we'll probably go into this a little bit more later on talking about rehearsals

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and that entire process.

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But out of pure curiosity, because you've just brought it up, when were you when would

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your days start and when would your days end?

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It's a great question.

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I think my day starts usually time wise around like maybe 10 or 11 a.m., probably 10 a.m.

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Because my body doesn't want to sleep after that.

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So it sucks because even if I sleep at like six, I don't get four hours of sleep because

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my body just wakes up at 10.

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And then I usually get to bed around three or two.

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I have a very long wind down routine.

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Oh, do you actually a routine?

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Yeah.

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So the wind down routine is very long.

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And the warm up routine for the show and rehearsals is also very long.

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So literally, it's I wake up and it's show and then I sleep hoping to just rest for the

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next day.

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So it's basically consumed me for two months.

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Wow.

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Fascinating.

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Now, overall, in a word, how do you feel now?

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So it's consumed you for two months.

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Looking back, I think one word is really hard, but I'm just going to challenge you to think

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about like what would be the headline of how the last two months has been?

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Like how are you feeling at this point?

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Right now?

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I think the word is definitely just literally the word is relief.

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Definitely.

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The word is relief.

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There's been so much work put into it.

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For a long time, I had to start working on this show specifically since last year.

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My goodness.

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God, it goes back as far as then.

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My God.

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So even like the mental prep for it, the decisions that I've had to make apart for the...

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I've given up a lot to do the show.

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A lot of people, myself included, had no idea who you are.

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No, perfect.

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Perfect.

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Exactly how we all wanted it to be.

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Not really really really.

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And so to play a lead role like that, a massive role, the audience is curious.

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Who is Angelo Martinez?

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So where did it all begin, dear?

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Are we talking about like when I was a kid?

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Yes.

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Start there.

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If that's where it started.

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Okay.

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I started singing very late in my life.

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Really?

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Yes.

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16, 17.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah.

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16, 17 is when I started singing.

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16, 17 is when I started listening to music.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And suddenly, oh, I like music because before that I was a fine artist.

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Oh, right.

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A visual artist.

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Yes, that's right.

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Oh, marvellous.

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So I did sculpture, I did painting and all.

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Oh, wow.

282
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And kind of that entire route.

283
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So that's what I did in SOTA.

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Right.

285
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So you went to SOTA for the arts program.

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Yes.

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And so I graduated in the visual arts course.

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Was this IB?

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Yeah.

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Right.

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So I did that.

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Only 16, 17 at around that time.

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That's when I realised, oh, okay, I like music.

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And I started to sing around that time.

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Was there a moment?

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Did you just end up in a K-box or something?

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No.

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I think the truth is I wanted to boost my sex appeal, to be honest.

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Fair enough.

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Fair enough.

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You heard it here, folks.

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Yes, folks.

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No, no, for real.

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That's around the time in which I was discovering myself.

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You know what?

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I had a crush in school.

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I wanted to be like, it's cooler to be this and that.

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So I was like, you know what?

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I'm going to start trying to be into music and stuff like that.

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Maybe I could catch a girl's attention.

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Seriously.

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How romantic.

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And did learning singing get the girl?

314
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Oh, that is a good question.

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The answer is yes.

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Oh, there we go.

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There we go.

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Would I be right to assume when you discovered music at this moment, I don't sense it being

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naturally musical theatre.

320
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No, no, it wasn't.

321
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It wasn't.

322
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It wasn't.

323
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Yeah.

324
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So naturally, to woo the girl, I assumed, yeah, you got to listen to smooth music.

325
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So I was like, all R&B, all of those hip hop and stuff like that.

326
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Growing up, I also kind of was around family members that listened to that.

327
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And so it was really just lying in CDs around the house, Boyz II Men and all that.

328
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And I was like, okay.

329
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And then that was my first deep dive into music.

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I loved it.

331
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And then really my introduction to musical theatre was also very late.

332
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How late?

333
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The audition.

334
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Oh, just before.

335
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No, no, no.

336
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Well, I mean, the lore is that even when I stepped into the audition room, I told Tracy

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and Adrian, Dear Evan Hansen is the only musical that I know.

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At the time, yes.

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So I came in being like, okay, I haven't done this before.

340
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And I don't know that much, but I love these songs.

341
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And that's how I turned up.

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Hi, my name is Angelo Martinez.

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I'm going to be singing these songs in front of you all.

344
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Wow.

345
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Yeah.

346
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That's, wow.

347
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I'm flabbergasted by that.

348
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Yeah, I grew a pair.

349
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I really had to grow a big pair to show my face to them.

350
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You mentioned Dear Evan Hansen is the only musical that you know.

351
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Yes, at the time, yes.

352
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What was your connection to that musical?

353
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How was it you knew that and not others?

354
00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,560
Oh, that's a good question.

355
00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,840
I heard the song For Forever Online first.

356
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I chanced upon that song first and I loved it.

357
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And then I realised that, okay, this is by Ben Platt, the guy that was in Pitch Perfect.

358
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So then I went down the rabbit hole of the soundtrack and I was like, oh, wow, Words

359
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Fail is a nice song too.

360
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Waving through the window is also really nice.

361
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So then I just listened to all of the songs and I just kept it at the back of my head.

362
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So that's why when they posted the audition notice in May, I was like, oh my gosh, they're

363
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bringing it here.

364
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I have to try.

365
00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,520
And it was a big deal, wasn't it?

366
00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,580
The fact that Dear Evan Hansen is coming to Southeast Asia, it was a huge deal.

367
00:15:38,580 --> 00:15:40,800
I almost couldn't get a slot.

368
00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,480
Yeah, I couldn't get a slot.

369
00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,640
The first time I tried, I couldn't get the form out.

370
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It crashed.

371
00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,640
Oh my, oh, oh.

372
00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,640
Yeah, so I had the Taylor Swift concert.

373
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But that is how popular it was.

374
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I remember it coming up because I was teaching at Lasalle at the time and every single guy

375
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under the age of 30 and even some over the age of 30 wanted to audition for this role.

376
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This is such an iconic role.

377
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,200
But going back to what you were saying just a little bit before we get onto auditions,

378
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I think that's what's the beauty of this show is it transcends musical theatre.

379
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And I think that's why it's done so well in its production here because people, especially,

380
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I think people of Gen Z generation and around that, I'd say above and below that, really

381
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resonate with the music style.

382
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Like, Pasek and Paul, the music is just so...

383
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It's got those R&B vibes in there as well.

384
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And of course, Ben Platt, he is very popular from movies and things as well as vocally

385
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as well.

386
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,280
Yeah, and his tone is pretty iconic.

387
00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,520
So I hear him, I'm like, oh yeah, there's Ben Platt.

388
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So I think it's a show that does transcend that.

389
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So it doesn't surprise me that that was one of the only musicals that reached out to you

390
00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,040
outside the musical theatrr genre.

391
00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,840
Because when you're musical theatre people, we just assume everybody knows every musical.

392
00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,840
They do not.

393
00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,840
Actually, not everybody is like us and has musicals on Spotify every day.

394
00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,400
People actually listen to other artists.

395
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,240
There's people like Sabrina Carpenter and things that Sam has no idea who they are.

396
00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,440
Oh, we'll talk about that later.

397
00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,440
Oh dear Lord.

398
00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:21,760
But yeah, I think that's so interesting that that led to you just giving it a go.

399
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,200
And I think that's such a big thing to walk into that audition room and give it a go.

400
00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,200
Kudos.

401
00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,200
Absolute kudos to you.

402
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,760
I think that leads us very nicely into the audition.

403
00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:36,000
So once you got secured that slot, how was the day?

404
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,000
How did it go?

405
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,000
How did you feel?

406
00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,960
What was it like?

407
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:46,920
So firstly, I learned actually post doing this show that people don't really come into

408
00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:53,640
the audition room singing songs from the musical that they are auditioning for.

409
00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,640
So I mean, I didn't know that.

410
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But then I was like, okay, they're going to want to hear that the people that they're

411
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auditioning for can hit the notes or whatnot and can tell the story.

412
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,800
So I might as well just sing the songs.

413
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,640
I mean, I like them.

414
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:19,280
When I signed up in May, I didn't really know the songs fully.

415
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So I took two months to learn them, singing them literally every day.

416
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,400
Every day to myself in the room, I dedicated an hour after work, after school.

417
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,440
Okay, I'm going to learn this song.

418
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,800
I'm going to sing it to how I think I can make it sound best because I'm not vocally

419
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,080
trained as well.

420
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,760
I just had to make it work.

421
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:46,000
I just like, okay, I think this is how I can make it sound.

422
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:52,720
So total imposter syndrome, total like I honestly, am I allowed to swear?

423
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:58,840
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

424
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:06,760
But I just love the songs too much to not show up.

425
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:13,120
You know what, just hearing that, that completely explains why you got the role on top of that.

426
00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:16,520
I can tell you having worked, I do audition prep with people all the time.

427
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,960
I audition all the time and I can tell you that people don't put that much work into

428
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:21,960
most auditions.

429
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:27,720
I wish they did, but majority of people, it's another audition in their cycle and they will

430
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,800
prep it really quickly or drag something out.

431
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,960
I guarantee that came through.

432
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,040
I was not in your audition, although we worked on the show together.

433
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,040
I wasn't in the audition room.

434
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,800
And I guarantee that came across and that passion and that hunger and that works so

435
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,800
much for Evan.

436
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,800
Like, and that kind of almost naivety, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

437
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,120
Character wise, exactly what Evan is, right?

438
00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:52,800
So I think that I'm sure that all the eyes just kind of lit up when they saw this hungry,

439
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,640
hungry boy, never heard or seen before come in.

440
00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:04,320
And to add to that, I couldn't make the first two days of, okay, so the audition process

441
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,840
was so big, right, that they had three full days worth of auditions.

442
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,560
So they saw like hundreds, I think over 150 people.

443
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,400
And I couldn't, I couldn't make the first two slots, right?

444
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,080
On the first two days.

445
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,880
Come back from the Philippines on the last day, I realised I can only make the last slot.

446
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,200
So it's either the last slot I don't make, take it.

447
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:37,040
So I remember my number was 110 and then I came into the room and I said, okay, I'm the

448
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,240
last person thinking they've seen hundreds of people already.

449
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,600
They're probably so tired, you know, they're probably not going to give this guy who doesn't

450
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,600
know what he's doing, who just shows up at the end at that time of day.

451
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,360
Yeah.

452
00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:53,360
Total imposter syndrome.

453
00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:56,800
If you think about it, all the odds were against me.

454
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,800
Yeah.

455
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,600
That's literally what was going in my head.

456
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,600
Yeah.

457
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,600
But you know what?

458
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,360
I think this is a lesson for everyone that's listening.

459
00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:04,360
And it was really interesting.

460
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:09,520
We put a post up on Instagram before you came asking questions and the auditions were pretty

461
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:15,000
much most of what people wanted to know because so many times we hear it in Singapore that

462
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,480
people say, oh, the same people get cast over and over again.

463
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,960
It's always the same people.

464
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,640
And to be fair from a producer hat, putting my old producer hat on, there is a reason

465
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,880
for that because they're people you trust and you know, and you know, you know that

466
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,880
they're going to deliver.

467
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,840
In Singapore, it's so expensive to put on theatre that you can't necessarily always

468
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,480
take a risk.

469
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,960
What I will give Pangdemonium their credit for this is that open call was an open call.

470
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,360
They were looking for anyone.

471
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,120
It really was anyone.

472
00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:52,760
And to give a complete newbie the central role of the biggest musical in town for the

473
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:58,560
year is a huge leap of faith, is a huge leap of faith and a gamble.

474
00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,800
It really is.

475
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,240
But it just shows that, you know, companies and it's not just Pangdemonium, actually other

476
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,560
companies are doing it now.

477
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,760
There are new faces coming through throughout the Singapore theatre scene, but it is a credit

478
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,340
to all the companies now that people, they are giving people chances in these roles.

479
00:22:14,340 --> 00:22:18,920
And I, but I think especially in this one, it would have been so easy just to go, Hey,

480
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,200
we know that, I'm not going to say any names, but there's so many people that, you know,

481
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,560
there's the regular people that we always see.

482
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,560
Yeah.

483
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,920
They might not have been right into, they might have been a bit older looking or, you

484
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,480
know, it might not, you know, but I mean, Ben Platt played him when he's like, what

485
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,440
in his like twenties, like, you know, but so they could have gone that route and gone

486
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,720
with a more established one, but they took that risk with you.

487
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,840
And honestly, it paid off.

488
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,440
It absolutely paid off.

489
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,440
But that was great.

490
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,160
So I just want to just really quick, so we kind of fast forward a little bit, I suppose,

491
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520
but rewinding back to the audition process.

492
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,560
So you're there, you're 110.

493
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,560
Yeah.

494
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,560
You've sang your song.

495
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,560
Yeah.

496
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,640
Did you feel like it went well?

497
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,880
Because everyone always judges themselves in auditions.

498
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:00,880
Like how did it go?

499
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,400
How did, how did you do?

500
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,360
What two, two months of practice was in that room.

501
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:08,440
Did you, did you do yourself proud?

502
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,000
I couldn't tell.

503
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,760
I was so confused.

504
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,840
Yeah.

505
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,920
Because what happened, um, and I mean, this is, he was spilling the tea, right?

506
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,360
So, I mean, so again, this is my first audition, right?

507
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,680
Ever, especially in this space.

508
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:32,800
So you're supposed to come in and the standard, I think is 32 bars of, um, of a song.

509
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,480
So I came in and I came in wanting to do the first 32 bars of four forever.

510
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,480
Right.

511
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,480
I did it.

512
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,920
And then they were like, can you please do the whole song?

513
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,120
And I was like, Oh, and they're like, do you know the whole song?

514
00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:47,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do.

515
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,120
I do.

516
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:49,120
I do.

517
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,120
I do.

518
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,120
At the back of my head, Angelo, of course you do.

519
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,960
You, you tried this for two months.

520
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,920
You have, you know, just, yeah.

521
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,920
And then I was like, okay, yeah, I can do the whole song.

522
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,040
I did the whole song and they were just quiet for like a few seconds.

523
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,200
Out of interest, just, just to set the scene in my head here, how many people are you doing

524
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,200
this in front of?

525
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,200
Oh, okay.

526
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:16,480
So this was in front of Tracie, Adrian, Tim, and Joanne on keys.

527
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Joanne.

528
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,480
Yes.

529
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,480
And Joanne who was playing keys.

530
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,080
And what was this in the theatre?

531
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,160
Was this in a studio space where this was in the Pangdemonium rehearsal studio.

532
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,160
Right.

533
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,160
Okay.

534
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,160
Okay.

535
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,160
Yeah.

536
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,160
So I've got the image in my head now.

537
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,160
Okay.

538
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,160
Yep.

539
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,360
So I put my stuff down and then I, I sang the full song in front of them.

540
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,080
I finish it and they don't say anything.

541
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:42,000
They just look at me and then I look back at them and I'm like, now what?

542
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,640
They like look at each other and they're like, do you have another song?

543
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,160
And I was like, I do.

544
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,360
It's waving through a window.

545
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:52,760
And then they looked at me and they're like, ah, yeah.

546
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,800
And then they said, can you do the whole song of that too?

547
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,520
And then I was like, yeah, okay.

548
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,520
And I did it.

549
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,520
Oh, but these are all good signs.

550
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,080
Like, was your heart a flutter?

551
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,480
Like, oh yeah, I was telling them.

552
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000
I think literally it was caught on.

553
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,640
I mean, I'm sure they film all the auditions, but I was telling this straight to the camera.

554
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,360
I couldn't feel my hands.

555
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:17,680
And the, and the next time I had this exact same feeling was during rehearsals of the

556
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,640
show when we ran through act one for the very first time.

557
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,640
Yeah.

558
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,200
It was that exact same feeling when I couldn't feel my hands.

559
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,480
Having done all those, all the big numbers back to back.

560
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,600
Yeah, man.

561
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:40,000
So I do, I do those songs and, and then they just asked me to step outside and wait for

562
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,720
a blue slip or a red slip.

563
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,720
That's all.

564
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,480
Oh, is that how it works?

565
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,960
Oh, well, I, I will, I will add some tea here.

566
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,160
That was the first time that's ever been done.

567
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,800
And it was quite, there was, there was different opinions, but yes, it was a little bit, it

568
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,760
was a bit like, it was a bit like a Britain's Got Talent or an X-Factor.

569
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

570
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,760
A blue or red slip.

571
00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,760
So it's the first time it's ever been done.

572
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,600
Oh, okay.

573
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,720
So this is not usually...

574
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,720
No.

575
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,720
The process.

576
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,440
Not, not the red and the red and the slips was a, it was a new thing.

577
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,800
So it did get, it did, it did get quite the conversation started within the performer

578
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,800
community afterwards.

579
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,960
However, you know, I suppose you know there and then, like there's no waiting.

580
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:25,440
It's like, it's like, and, and actually being on a panel, you pretty much do know there

581
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,440
and then.

582
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,040
And, you know, as in, I know if I, I know if I'm going to want to see you again, pretty

583
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,320
much 20 seconds after you've opened your voice.

584
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,640
Actually, I usually know when you walk in the room, as in like just how you're holding

585
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,640
yourself.

586
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,280
Like that's a big giveaway for me when I'm on a panel.

587
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,360
But especially once you've started singing, I pretty much know, because you know, you

588
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,760
hear singers all the time, you work with singers all the time.

589
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,200
I know if you're going to hit those notes later, I can hear it in your voice.

590
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,360
Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes.

591
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:55,280
Which, which we, we talked a lot about when we were working together.

592
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Exactly.

593
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,280
Oh, no, no, yeah, yeah.

594
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,880
Just, yeah, just do this and go.

595
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:00,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

596
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,480
So, so yeah, absolutely.

597
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,200
So I think, yeah, you, you really do know, you really do know straight away.

598
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,040
But, you know, there were, there were people that didn't get those recalls that, you know,

599
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,520
were expecting to, or were not necessarily expecting to, but you maybe thought, oh, they

600
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,760
might have a good shot and they didn't.

601
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,880
And you know, I think that's a bigger lesson about auditions.

602
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,760
It's not necessarily, you know, you don't know what the, you don't know what the director

603
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,760
wants.

604
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,760
You don't know what the production company wants.

605
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,760
Yes.

606
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,320
You know, even though you might have a vision of the show in your head that you think I'm

607
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,320
perfect for it, you might not be, you know, or, you know, and it's even if you're a seasoned

608
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,040
actor and Angelo could walk in and take the role.

609
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,440
No, but I, I joke about that, but that's true.

610
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,920
You know, like at the end of the day.

611
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,720
History of any production, whether it be movie, TV or theatre is dotted with those examples.

612
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,600
I can't think of one coming to mind at the moment, but there are plenty of examples

613
00:27:54,600 --> 00:28:00,320
of nobody's debuts and absolutely stealing the show.

614
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,720
And then, then they become a household name.

615
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,800
You did your first round.

616
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,800
You got the slip.

617
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Yeah.

618
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,800
You got the slip.

619
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Which colour?

620
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,800
It was the positive one.

621
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,800
The positive one.

622
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,800
The promising one, the good one, the blue one.

623
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,800
Yes.

624
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,000
We got the blue step and then recalls, right?

625
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Yeah.

626
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000
And many recalls, I believe for you.

627
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000
Oh yes.

628
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200
It was like, I think if same day.

629
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,560
No, no, no, no.

630
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,400
No, but the first one was the next day.

631
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,400
The next day.

632
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Yes.

633
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,400
My goodness.

634
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,400
Literally.

635
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,560
So you got the blue slip.

636
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,560
Yep.

637
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,560
And a load of recalls.

638
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,560
Yes.

639
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Over a number of days.

640
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,560
So when did...

641
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,560
No, over a number of weeks.

642
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,560
Over a number of weeks.

643
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,560
Yes.

644
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,200
So you mentioned earlier, this was last year.

645
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,200
This was last year.

646
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,200
Yes.

647
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,200
When last year?

648
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,200
This was July last year.

649
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,200
Wow.

650
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,720
So this is close to 18 months ago.

651
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,720
Yeah.

652
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Wow.

653
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,720
Yeah.

654
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,720
Yeah.

655
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,000
So how many weeks until you got the call?

656
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000
That I was offered the role?

657
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Yes.

658
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Oh my gosh.

659
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,680
I remember this scene like it was yesterday.

660
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:11,840
So the final call happened, I think it was first week of August.

661
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,280
It was around there.

662
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:21,680
And what happened was they had a group recall and some of my cast mates were there as well.

663
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,800
So Rebecca was there, Ethel was there.

664
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,960
Yeah.

665
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,920
And we sang Good For You.

666
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,160
I remember that.

667
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,200
And then they asked the other cast members to...

668
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,080
I mean all the other applicants to be dismissed.

669
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,080
And then they got me to sing Words Fail for the first time.

670
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,080
So I sang that.

671
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:54,520
After I sang Words Fail, I had to wait, which I remember was one of the longest waits of

672
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,520
my entire life.

673
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,520
I was like...

674
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,000
It felt like three years, it was more like 15 minutes.

675
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,320
And then they invited me to their office.

676
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,480
And I still remember it was the four of them, Adrian Tracie, Tim and Joanne.

677
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:17,640
And they all looked at me and was like, what are you doing next year, October?

678
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Oh, that's marvellous.

679
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,760
And what was your immediate reaction?

680
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,240
I can skip school for this.

681
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,400
That was the first thought.

682
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,720
The first thing I said to them was, are you sure?

683
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,440
Oh, you're so modest.

684
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,400
The first thing I said was, are you sure?

685
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:46,220
Because this was the same kind of conversation that I had after Singing For Forever in front

686
00:30:46,220 --> 00:30:47,680
of them for the first time.

687
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040
They looked at me and was like, have you done theatre before?

688
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,720
And I was like, no, no, no, no, never, never, never.

689
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,600
But I watched movies.

690
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,080
And then they're like, okay, so no acting experience?

691
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,080
No, have you taken a course?

692
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,240
And I was like, no, but I have friends who do theatre.

693
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:12,400
So my neighbour does theatre.

694
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,600
So I said the same thing.

695
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,640
You know, I mentioned to you in the rehearsal, I mean, in the audition room, I've never done

696
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,640
this before.

697
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,000
And they're like, yeah, yeah, we know.

698
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:31,080
But if you want to take this seriously, we would like to offer you the role.

699
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,080
For Evan.

700
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:41,000
And then I was like, oh, then the next thing I said after that was, the imposter syndrome

701
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,660
is really, really, really kicking in, guys.

702
00:31:43,660 --> 00:31:50,240
And that same feeling, I think, still kind of sticks with me today.

703
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,640
Yeah, it hasn't really left.

704
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,440
Yeah.

705
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:02,580
I've just learned how to take it in my stride when I put in the work and show my face in

706
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:04,720
front of 600 people a night.

707
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Yeah.

708
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Or, you know, 30 in the rehearsal room, because that's also super daunting at the beginning

709
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,640
of the process.

710
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,880
Yeah.

711
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,840
But I think that leaves us nicely.

712
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:20,000
So you get the role, you know, you take it all in and you say yes.

713
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,320
Then obviously there's a big gap.

714
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,040
You've got the year and as you said, there was preparation.

715
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,960
You were preparing through the whole year.

716
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,080
And I know you've had sessions and things before that.

717
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,120
Let's fast forward to rehearsals.

718
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,720
So let's summarise the rehearsal.

719
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,640
So how were rehearsals for you?

720
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,640
What were the surprises?

721
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,640
What were the...

722
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Oh.

723
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,640
What happened?

724
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,640
Because I was there for most of it.

725
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,640
So I saw it.

726
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,640
I saw it.

727
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,800
And I was like, how was it for you?

728
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,800
How was that process?

729
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,920
The hardest thing I've ever done in my life.

730
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,920
How so?

731
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,160
I was pushed to my limits, I think in every facet of myself.

732
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,160
Yeah.

733
00:32:54,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Because, I mean, Tracie said it very kind of succinctly.

734
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,960
She said, you're basically doing what an actor goes through like in like three years of drama

735
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,020
school and like shows and trying things out in five weeks.

736
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:15,400
So you're going to have to just suck it up and follow through and commit to the journey.

737
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:22,320
So that was the one thing I could lean on was that no matter what, right?

738
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:29,440
If I had a terrible day in rehearsals today, I trust that when I come back to the room

739
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,720
tomorrow, I'm going to give it my all again.

740
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,320
And I'm going to carry that same spirit I had when I tried to audition.

741
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,280
And that is to just make it work.

742
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,280
Yeah.

743
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:47,800
The only difference is I am surrounded by a bunch of experienced, talented people I can

744
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,520
support and show love.

745
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,000
And that was probably the only thing that was allowing me to survive the past five weeks.

746
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Yeah.

747
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,920
Me and TJ have been in a number of jobs and things like that.

748
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,040
And the people do make it.

749
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,720
The people that you live, they can make or break a job.

750
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,960
I would say that for any job.

751
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,680
I mean, I don't, other than my cruise ships days.

752
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,040
Oh, we're finally on the cruise ships.

753
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,120
I don't come from a performing background, but...

754
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,920
It was on the cruise ship.

755
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,320
Angela's looking very confused while you just blew a horn.

756
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,320
That's the cruise ship bell.

757
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,320
Yes.

758
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,840
Before I came to Singapore, I worked on cruise ships.

759
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,080
I think for any job, it's the people that you work with that can make or break it.

760
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,680
So that's wonderful.

761
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,900
And you could see it on stage.

762
00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:38,880
You could really see it on stage how well you all gel together.

763
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,680
Honestly, in rehearsals, it was beautiful.

764
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,160
It's such a beautiful cast and the process was delicious.

765
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,520
It was lovely.

766
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,160
I think not every show is as beautiful as that.

767
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Everyone gelled.

768
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,720
No, it really, really came together.

769
00:34:55,720 --> 00:35:04,440
And I think that even in the tough moments, it was really nice that they weren't ignored.

770
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,160
There was so much love and tenderness to embrace how hard and difficult it was to tell the

771
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,160
story.

772
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,960
But then there were certain moments whereby we could laugh about it and keep things light.

773
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,560
And that's why I think I really owe it to some of the cast members to really just make

774
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,560
it a lot more bearable.

775
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:30,340
Because Dear Evan Hansen is so heavy and it never gets easier to tell, even if you're

776
00:35:30,340 --> 00:35:33,400
familiar with the show already.

777
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,040
It's still as hard to do or hard to watch.

778
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:43,520
About that, because with the questions we had on Instagram today, a couple asked this.

779
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,560
With the rehearsal period and playing him and obviously the preparation as well, as

780
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560
you say, it was the first musical you knew.

781
00:35:50,560 --> 00:36:01,640
As you went deeper into Evan, was there a favourite part of Evan?

782
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,400
Yeah, actually, I think the first thing is I really like Evan's humour.

783
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,240
I think he's hilarious.

784
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:10,840
I think it's so understated.

785
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Usually everyone goes, oh no, Jared's the comic relief.

786
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,680
He's the one I'll go to for a good laugh.

787
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,240
But Evan's humour is actually very sharp.

788
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:23,320
And the reasons as to why so many of the scenes give you a good laugh is because Evan is there

789
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,520
to help you make you smile.

790
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,320
He's so witty.

791
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:36,680
And that wittiness also translates to when he's fighting with people and things get super

792
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,680
heavy.

793
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:46,720
And he's actually just so aware of his surroundings, of his feelings.

794
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:52,440
And he's just such a sayang boy.

795
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,500
Sayang boy, 17 year old.

796
00:36:55,500 --> 00:37:01,040
And I think the other thing about Evan that I really like is that it's so ironic to say

797
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,120
this, but it's his honesty.

798
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:10,760
So you know, the whole show's about him lying.

799
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:16,840
But you know, in all the scenes, I think in trying to kind of tell Evan's story and to

800
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:24,600
put him to life on stage, the way he reacts and shows his body and stuff, it's so honest.

801
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:31,000
And the way he tries to help or the way he tries to talk to people, it's so rooted in

802
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,000
honesty.

803
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,360
He's not trying to be a different person.

804
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,320
He's just scared to be himself.

805
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,320
You know?

806
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,320
Yeah.

807
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,920
And it's so honestly real.

808
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:50,040
And I think that's why a lot of you saying earlier, a lot of gen Z's and generations

809
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,040
above and below identify with that.

810
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Honesty can be quite hard.

811
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Yeah.

812
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,800
It can be quite hard discovering it and being authentic.

813
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:05,040
Now the rehearsals leads into the show.

814
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:12,560
What was going through your head's nerves, pressure when it came to tech, to opening,

815
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,960
it finally coming together and being put in front of, as you say, 600 people for 33 shows.

816
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Yeah.

817
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,080
I think the first thing that I had to lean on was that I had to trust the rehearsal period.

818
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:31,360
I had to trust the work that we put in and the decisions that we've all made to make

819
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,280
the show and the experience of the show what it was.

820
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,760
Tracy mentioned it very, very nicely.

821
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:44,020
When we start shows, the only difference is that we have a new player in the room and

822
00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:45,600
that's the audience.

823
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,280
So we can imagine them as like a fourth character.

824
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,800
Oh, how beautifully put.

825
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,800
I love that.

826
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,800
How beautifully put.

827
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,920
Like a new character in the show.

828
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:04,480
It just adds a new layer of awareness of how we then not just react to each other on stage,

829
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,560
but how we'd hear how audiences react to our decisions on stage.

830
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,640
Making Evan a bit angrier in these scenes and making him a bit funnier in these scenes.

831
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:23,400
But I think that the pressure definitely got a lot more palpable during the opening weekend.

832
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:34,160
I think the reality of having to do the run several times over like four to five days

833
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,080
was very, very scary.

834
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:43,280
So like even coming in and doing the preview on a 7pm show, but having done a full run

835
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:49,960
before that, and we can't let our foot off the brakes.

836
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:56,160
We always have to keep on committing to the journey and the journey is never lighter.

837
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,800
That's what's so scary.

838
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:06,800
And then that's why I never found Saturdays to be any easier because we do it twice.

839
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,800
And then Gala night was on the...

840
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,560
I also know that you're someone who likes the evening as in the warm up.

841
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,560
Yeah, exactly.

842
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Then warmed up by 7.30pm, but then I still have to do the 2.30pm show and commit to that

843
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,160
fully.

844
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,160
And you did.

845
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,160
I watched a few matinees.

846
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,520
You nailed it still, so don't worry.

847
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:36,240
But I think that's a real interesting point though, that actually opening weekend is way

848
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:43,600
heavy than you even think it is because I mean, you have the pressure of first audience,

849
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,040
that new member of the cast that suddenly enters.

850
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,040
You don't know.

851
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,760
You genuinely don't know.

852
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,120
Anyone that watches it before is getting paid to be there.

853
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,680
Any reactions.

854
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,160
People are laughing and they understand the script and they probably read it 50 times

855
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,160
before they come to the room.

856
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,660
So you don't actually have a live audience's reaction to your version of the show until

857
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:05,920
they come on that preview night.

858
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,520
So it's daunting for everyone.

859
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,080
And that first night, I'm sure it was a surprise.

860
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,080
You're like, oh, you're laughing here.

861
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,680
Excuse me, I was in a moment.

862
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Excuse me.

863
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,440
And you're having to slow it down and speed it up.

864
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,440
And that's a skill.

865
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,600
It's a skill that you kind of have to learn on the job, on the fly.

866
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,680
And so that's like a whole new thing on top of all those other things you had on that

867
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,820
opening weekend.

868
00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:28,080
You have this whole other skill of like, I need to slow this down.

869
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,520
I need to give you space to laugh and cry with me and breathe with you.

870
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,880
And I'm sure that got easier over time as you went over.

871
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,240
Yeah, definitely.

872
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,920
I think it's two things.

873
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:44,600
One is I definitely got a lot more comfortable with the character and the journey he goes

874
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,600
through.

875
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,200
And secondly, it's getting more comfortable with the stage.

876
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680
I was telling this to Tracy the other day.

877
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,640
After doing like a number of shows, I can finally feel my feet on the ground, especially doing

878
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,640
like the big numbers.

879
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,240
I can feel myself walk and cross the stage with feeling my body moving.

880
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:06,440
And it really gives me a surge of confidence to just grab the song by the balls because

881
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,880
they are very difficult songs.

882
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:16,040
If you don't mind me just going off on a tangent, because you mentioned it a couple of times,

883
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,920
you seem somebody that's very connected to their body.

884
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,920
You mentioned about not feeling, being able to feel your hands and then just then not

885
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,060
feeling the ground you're walking on.

886
00:42:26,060 --> 00:42:27,520
Is that something about you?

887
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,080
You must feel the connection through your body.

888
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,960
Absolutely.

889
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,080
My response to this is actually in two points.

890
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,440
The first thing is that I have health anxiety.

891
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,480
I am very, very aware of how my body feels.

892
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:48,120
Any kind of slight sensation or difference, I will definitely take notice.

893
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,160
The second thing is, which leads into very nicely to it, when I was working with TJ on

894
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:59,200
doing the songs, it was very natural for me to kind of pick up the idea of having to use

895
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,520
more of your body to nail the songs.

896
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:08,760
I think that's kind of the difference in which you kind of understand it from a technical

897
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,040
viewpoint and not just kind of making it work.

898
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,680
Because when I make it work, I just always use my throat.

899
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,060
I pick up pieces of my body and I just try to make the sound.

900
00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:27,120
But then kind of like working with TJ, I was like, oh, okay, you can actually use your

901
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,400
body to make things easier for yourself.

902
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,960
Oh, you've trained him well, dear.

903
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,960
You've trained him well.

904
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,240
But I do just want to say, I said this to you as well, but I will say it publicly.

905
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:38,960
You are a sponge.

906
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:46,480
You absorb every note and not only absorb, but you understand, you take on and you apply.

907
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,960
And I was genuinely, I watched it on the last weekend.

908
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,120
I was crying not only because of the show, I was just like a proud, I was like a proud,

909
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,680
I was going to say a proud dad, but I'm definitely not like proud big brother.

910
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,320
Proud big brother, because genuinely, like the process you've gone on to put that up,

911
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,800
I know how much you've seen it and I feel it and the audience feel it.

912
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,080
And you should be so proud of what you've done.

913
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Genuinely.

914
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,080
Appreciate it.

915
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Really.

916
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,080
Could you hear the audience crying?

917
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,720
Oh, now that's another question.

918
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:16,720
Yes, I can.

919
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:17,720
Yes, I can.

920
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:19,600
But it depends on how hard I'm crying.

921
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,600
Yeah.

922
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,600
Yeah.

923
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:29,600
So there are specific points in the show that I can start to feel and sense them crying.

924
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,000
It's definitely towards the tail end, of course.

925
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:38,920
But there are times in which I'm surprised when I hear from the directors in the house,

926
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:47,800
I hear from other people in the audience whereby they tell me that there are criers as early

927
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,800
as before you will be found.

928
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,800
Yeah.

929
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,480
Okay, those I can't hear.

930
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,640
If any sniffles in the house during those times, I really cannot hear it.

931
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,280
So there's a sniffler behind us called he wouldn't stop.

932
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,000
It was so funny to me.

933
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,520
That first show, I remember, again, because as creative, you're sat there and you don't

934
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,520
know what everyone's going to react like.

935
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Yeah, you don't.

936
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,920
So we did Words Fail and there was tears.

937
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,920
When was this?

938
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,920
This was preview.

939
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,000
I remember this very vividly on preview.

940
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,800
There was some sniffles after Words Fail for sure.

941
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,480
And then we went in, it's kind of that double whammy in the show, right?

942
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,040
You get Words Fail and then it goes into So Big, So Small.

943
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,040
Yeah.

944
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,040
Oh my gosh.

945
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,720
In that moment when the tree is coming up and then the lights are coming up on the audience

946
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,880
because it's so bright, all you get is...

947
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,800
And then you get grown men pretending and then suddenly this light is coming on them

948
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,120
from the projector and they're all trying to pretend like they're not crying, but everybody

949
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,120
is sniffling around.

950
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,760
And it was just a sea of sniffles because also the band is quite quiet at that point

951
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:54,760
as well.

952
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,760
So you just hear these sniffles everywhere.

953
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,760
Yes, that's right.

954
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,760
The band is quiet.

955
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,800
And then the light's coming up on you and it's just like, yes, you're all crying now.

956
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,400
It's like the big reveal.

957
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,840
So we're now...

958
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,600
The show is closed and we've gone through all of that.

959
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,880
Are you proud of your journey?

960
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:12,880
How are you feeling now?

961
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,880
Yeah, 100%.

962
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:14,880
Oh, you're shooting.

963
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:21,080
Like I said, I gave up a lot for this show, even in the most basic technical ways.

964
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,280
I gave up alcohol for this show.

965
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,120
I changed my diet completely for this show.

966
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,960
This was a year and a half of commitment.

967
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:34,440
So I told you all that day I'm at the closing party.

968
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:40,280
The first drink I have is me tasting alcohol after one and a half years.

969
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,280
Oh yeah.

970
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,280
I mean, yeah.

971
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,200
So I mean, I really gave up a lot for this show and I...

972
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,200
Such discipline.

973
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,200
Wow.

974
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,200
I was a monk.

975
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,760
I really was a monk for the two months.

976
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,360
I just rehearsed and I came home and I slept.

977
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,120
Same with, even more so with the shows.

978
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,440
The irony that he only got into singing to be a sex god and then he was a monk when he

979
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,440
actually got a role that required him to sing.

980
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,160
Oh my god, that's a good one.

981
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,120
Well, you're back now, my friend.

982
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,720
I do wonder, because a lot of performers are thinking of the next job.

983
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,360
They're thinking of the next paycheque.

984
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,920
Has that happened to you or are you still...

985
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,160
You're thinking, no, I want to deflate at the moment.

986
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,680
I want to just chill and then I'll think about what next.

987
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,600
That's a great, great question.

988
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,160
The one thing that I put on hold for this is making my own music.

989
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,400
So that's the next thing I'm hungry to do again.

990
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,400
Yeah, it's two.

991
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,040
I have a bunch of demos that I put on pause.

992
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,040
I'm going to be going to make that.

993
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,960
That's going to be my project for the next few months.

994
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,960
What genre?

995
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Oh, R&B.

996
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Oh, it's R&B.

997
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Yeah.

998
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,960
Yeah.

999
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,400
I hope this is not the last we've heard of Angelo Martinez as the actor.

1000
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,400
On the stage?

1001
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Yes.

1002
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Yeah, we'll see.

1003
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,400
We'll see.

1004
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,400
We'll see.

1005
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:13,240
I mean, I've thought about it.

1006
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:16,800
Playing Evan is very difficult.

1007
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,160
So I would love to do a comedy.

1008
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,720
I love to do something that's super light and doing something funny.

1009
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,400
But the world is your oyster there with Dear Evan Hansen on your CV.

1010
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,400
Oh, we'll see.

1011
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,400
We'll see.

1012
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,400
Fabulous.

1013
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,400
I love it.

1014
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,720
We really have our Singaporean Ben Platt.

1015
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:37,680
Ben Platt did an album straight after Dear Evan Hansen.

1016
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Oh, did he?

1017
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,680
Did he do that?

1018
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,680
You've heard him.

1019
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,920
I've listened to Honey mind, but I didn't know that he released this album.

1020
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,920
I think it's after Dear Evan Hansen.

1021
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,680
I don't know if it's straight after, but it's definitely...

1022
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,720
We've got our Singaporean Ben Platt.

1023
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:50,720
Nice.

1024
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:57,520
And I think what a wonderful addition to our Singapore art scene that we have.

1025
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,720
Appreciate it.

1026
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:02,480
And I know we will be following your career very, very closely.

1027
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,200
And I'm sure everyone that's listening will be as well.

1028
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,920
We'll all be buying your album on Spotify.

1029
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,920
Oh, please.

1030
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,920
Until the launch.

1031
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,920
Oh, yes.

1032
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,920
We will be there.

1033
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:11,920
Please.

1034
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,920
We will be there.

1035
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:13,920
Do you know what?

1036
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,080
When you said we'll be buying your album on Spotify, in my head, I had a CD and Angelo

1037
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,720
signing it, but I didn't think...

1038
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:18,720
We're not in 2002 anymore, Sham.

1039
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:19,720
Oh my gosh.

1040
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,680
Can I talk about signing for a second?

1041
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:28,040
In previews, there were a lot of super fans of the show that came.

1042
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,640
And I felt...

1043
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Like I mentioned that the imposter syndrome kind of carried me from the start all the

1044
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,520
way to now because it's so weird coming down from the stage door and people are like, can

1045
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,120
you sign my...

1046
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,120
Can you sign my...

1047
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,120
I'm like, why?

1048
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,120
Like why?

1049
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,120
Yeah.

1050
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,600
You're so humble.

1051
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,880
I know exactly who was there on that opening night and they listened to the podcast and

1052
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,160
it was Nick and all the crew.

1053
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,160
Oh really?

1054
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,160
Yeah, from our open mic.

1055
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,360
Those were the crazy fans on opening night.

1056
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,880
Love to them then.

1057
00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,880
Love to them.

1058
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:05,240
Yeah, people are so excited and I think people were so excited and are so excited.

1059
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:06,880
It's so lovely that we...

1060
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:13,960
I think there's something even more special about it that your specific journey into Dear

1061
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:20,880
Evan Hansen and the fact that we found a local performer with your journey and everything

1062
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:27,280
we just talked through over the rest of this podcast, I think it makes it even more special.

1063
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,280
Yes, I agree.

1064
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,280
I absolutely agree.

1065
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,920
You made it special on the show as well.

1066
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,840
I think all the audiences and from us as well, everyone, very proud of you for your journey

1067
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:42,240
and wish you all the best for whatever you do next and we'll be there supporting and

1068
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,280
waving and cheering along the way.

1069
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,760
So how can people follow you Mr. Angelo?

1070
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,040
How do we follow this journey?

1071
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,760
Sell your music to us.

1072
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,600
I mean, you can find me and now it's Angelo on Instagram.

1073
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,600
Yeah.

1074
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,600
Fabulous.

1075
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,520
I mean, if you search Angelo on Spotify, I have some of my old songs there.

1076
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,520
Oh, yeah.

1077
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,520
So there's that.

1078
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,200
They're all like lullabies, to be honest.

1079
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,040
So you can listen to them if you want to fall asleep.

1080
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,560
But then your demos that you're going to be doing soon?

1081
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,000
That will come out 2025 for sure.

1082
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000
Fabulous.

1083
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,000
For sure.

1084
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Great.

1085
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,000
Fabulous.

1086
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,560
And yeah, we'll see if there are other kind of theatre shows to audition for.

1087
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,160
Maybe you'll see a new boy in the room.

1088
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,040
Well done.

1089
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,760
Thank you so much for coming, my darling.

1090
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,040
It's been an absolute pleasure.

1091
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,040
Well done you.

1092
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Seriously.

1093
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,040
Well done you.

1094
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,040
Thank you Angelo.

1095
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:40,360
We will see you soon.

1096
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,440
I loved that.

1097
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,880
You know what?

1098
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,240
I was not expecting that story.

1099
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,680
I really wasn't.

1100
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:56,880
I was expecting, oh yes, I was at Lasalle for three years.

1101
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,880
I mean, he said it himself.

1102
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,800
He has balls of titanium and such dedication.

1103
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,000
And it paid off.

1104
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,120
Well done to Angelo.

1105
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,840
And I think I mean this in a very loving way.

1106
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,600
Such a great example of an underdog story.

1107
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:19,320
You know, I think it's that really truly like star search, like found him from pretty much

1108
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:25,880
nowhere to then go ahead and do what he did is just incredible.

1109
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,680
And such a nice person as well.

1110
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,680
Yes.

1111
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,560
Such a lovely boy and so dedicated.

1112
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,560
Yes.

1113
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:42,720
And I mean, if you could sum up, and I hope this is a fair thing to say, the entire Dear

1114
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:52,120
Evan Hansen enterprise in Singapore, Starship Enterprise, but the entire enterprise itself

1115
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,680
has been one big risk.

1116
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,800
And I mean that in a very positive way.

1117
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:06,080
As in, it's the first edition of it in Southeast Asia.

1118
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,280
You said it's the first one they were allowed to change aspects.

1119
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,600
Yeah, redesign it.

1120
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,640
A risk with an unknown actor, a risk with not having understudies.

1121
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,000
And it's paid off beautifully.

1122
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:25,920
And yes, so what a way for all the cast and all the crew and all the production.

1123
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,800
I hope they're all just on cloud nine and very proud of themselves of what they've achieved,

1124
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,800
especially Angelo.

1125
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,800
Yeah.

1126
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,800
Especially.

1127
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,880
And I think everyone listening to this and anyone anywhere near the Singapore theatre

1128
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:42,160
scene should be proud that the Singapore theatre scene is established enough now and has the

1129
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:48,880
local skills and talent to be put on such a show to rival any West End show.

1130
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,920
You know, honestly, really well done to everyone.

1131
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,480
Now talking about shows in Singapore.

1132
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,920
It's time for our hot sips.

1133
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:02,720
This is our Spoonful of Theatre show recommendations of what to watch in November and December.

1134
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:08,120
Yes, we're moving into the holiday season, meaning it's panto time, starting with Wild

1135
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:14,800
Rice's The Wizard of Oz, a local adaptation written by Alfian Sa'at and Elaine Chan, directed

1136
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,000
by Ivan and starring an all star local cast.

1137
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,560
Looking forward to this one as it performs at Knee Ann Kongsi Theatre at Funan.

1138
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:29,440
Tickets available from Sistic, playing from the 14th of November to the 21st of December.

1139
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,440
Absolutely.

1140
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:36,760
Over at Marina Bay Sands in the Sands Theatre, we have the blockbuster musical Six finally

1141
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,720
making its way to the shores.

1142
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:42,080
Sam's History Nerd is blowing up.

1143
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,360
It's produced by Base Entertainment with an overseas cast coming in.

1144
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,360
I think they're from the UK, if I'm not wrong.

1145
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,080
And it's going to be a fabulous show.

1146
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,080
I love this show.

1147
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,000
I saw the original over in London.

1148
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Please go catch that.

1149
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,840
It's playing from the 14th of November to Sunday, 1st of December.

1150
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,200
Casts are also on Sistic.

1151
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,800
Sticking in the right time period, a bit of William Shakespeare's coming to town.

1152
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,880
Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble indeed.

1153
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:14,160
Yes, I'm talking about ABA production and Action to the Word UK's edition of Macbeth.

1154
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,640
As the award winning ensemble use their unique flair of physical storytelling, they promise

1155
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,120
to give a striking retelling of the famous Scottish play.

1156
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,480
Yes, playing at the Victoria Theatre from the 21st of November to the 24th of November.

1157
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,560
Tickets available on Sistic.

1158
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:37,600
Coming back to some local theatre, we have Dream Academy with the Dim Sum Dollies, the

1159
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,180
classic Dim Sum Dollies.

1160
00:55:39,180 --> 00:55:44,360
They are back with a brand new show called The History of Singapore, 60 Sexy Years.

1161
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,360
Oh my word.

1162
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,360
We love that.

1163
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:52,000
So the Dim Sum Dollies will be joined on stage by a massive cast of dancers and singers.

1164
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,000
The Hossan Leong is in there and there's also some sexy boys promising me to make history

1165
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,000
sexy.

1166
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Oh, very interesting.

1167
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,240
So go and check that out.

1168
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:05,120
It's the Capitol Theatre from the 12th of December to the 21st of December.

1169
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,520
Tickets on Sistic.

1170
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:12,240
And not forgetting Sightlines Red, an artful murder, an experiential murder mystery.

1171
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:15,240
Playing until the 1st of December.

1172
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:17,280
Tickets available on Sistic.

1173
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,160
Now that's what's happening in theatre land.

1174
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,160
TJ, is there anything else going on in Singapore?

1175
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,640
So some quick mentions apart from our hot sips.

1176
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,480
We have a few festivals coming up as well.

1177
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,960
The French Film Festival is on.

1178
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,440
I watched a beautiful music ensemble the other day down at the Alliance Francaise.

1179
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,480
So there's lots and lots of films on at the French Film Festival.

1180
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,000
The Singapore International Film Festival is also on.

1181
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,360
So movie buffs are all out there.

1182
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,480
And of course, the Voices Festival, which is one of our favourite festivals.

1183
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,480
Yes, it is.

1184
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,440
The whole year is on at the Esplanade.

1185
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:49,440
Go check those out.

1186
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,600
But of all the movies that's coming out, there is a big one coming out.

1187
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,600
There is a big one.

1188
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,240
I'm sure anyone listening to the podcast probably already knows Wicked.

1189
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:01,240
Part 1.

1190
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:02,920
I've got something to say about this.

1191
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,720
I'm very upset that it's in two parts, but I will watch it first to see.

1192
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:10,200
So Wicked Part 1 is coming out very soon.

1193
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,280
It's funny you should say that, not going into too much detail.

1194
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,920
I'm actually glad it is two parts because...

1195
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,080
I don't want to wait another year for Part 2.

1196
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Oh, that's the fun.

1197
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:23,960
I mean, if only you were a Star Wars fan, you would understand the anticipation is a

1198
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:24,960
good thing.

1199
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,120
This is one story that you can watch in one time in the theatre.

1200
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,120
OK, but there's a little taster of our opinions.

1201
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,760
We will be going to the cinema to review that on a Spill the Tea very soon.

1202
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,760
So stay tuned.

1203
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,920
That will be coming your way very shortly.

1204
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,560
And love, if I remember rightly, it's 40 odd days until Christmas.

1205
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,560
It is.

1206
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:44,560
It's very soon.

1207
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,560
So that means the holidays are coming, Sam.

1208
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,880
We've got school holidays, two teachers here.

1209
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,560
Very ready for our school holidays.

1210
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,560
Very, very ready.

1211
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,560
I think as a teacher, you're always just counting down the days to this holiday.

1212
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,160
We love our jobs, but we also love the holidays too.

1213
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,160
So we've got Christmas coming up and also some other things to tell you about.

1214
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,400
So we will both be hosting at the Singathon for Sing'Theatre.

1215
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,520
So do tune into that.

1216
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,960
It's on the first weekend of December on the Sunday, 12 hours nonstop singing.

1217
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,720
And we'll be hosting all those amazing artists.

1218
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,360
We've been doing it for many years, haven't we?

1219
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,360
Yes, can't wait.

1220
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,280
It's our fifth year doing this and we've always raised tens of thousands of dollars going

1221
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,800
to an amazing cause.

1222
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,320
It's one of my highlights of the year and really, really looking forward to doing that.

1223
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,720
And of course, you mentioning the Voices Festival.

1224
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:27,720
We're going to be there as well.

1225
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,080
Yes, we're going to be doing a special open mic night.

1226
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,960
And I always look forward to these because I think, oh, we're on the Esplanade, dear.

1227
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,960
We are.

1228
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,240
And it's in the Annex Theatre as well, which is really amazing.

1229
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,160
So we'll be performing in the Annex.

1230
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,920
Now, if you want to take part in that, you must register.

1231
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,480
The tickets are free.

1232
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,240
But go onto the Voices website or the Voices socials and register your ticket for the Voices

1233
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,280
Festival open mic night with myself, with TG and...

1234
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,280
Joanne Ho.

1235
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,280
Joanne Ho.

1236
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,280
Yes, look forward to that.

1237
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,280
I love it when Joanne joins us for the mic.

1238
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,280
The MD of Dear Evan Hansen.

1239
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,280
Yes, yes.

1240
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,280
Absolutely.

1241
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,760
But anyway, love, my tea's gone cold.

1242
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,400
Yeah, I think it's time to wrap up.

1243
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,320
So thank you so much for tuning in.

1244
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,160
Do remember, if you've liked this episode, to like us on all the socials and follow us

1245
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,000
on whatever podcast streaming service you are listening on.

1246
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,440
And we will bring you more juicy tea from the Singapore Theatre scene.

1247
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,440
So it's cheerio.

1248
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,440
We'll be back soon.

1249
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,440
And a ta-ra from me.

1250
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:41,120
And to anyone working in Singapore Theatre for November and December,...Break a leg!