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Ever imagine yourself in a fencing match.

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The clash of blades, that lightning fast footwork.

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It looks almost like a dance, doesn't it?

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It really does.

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But what if I told you there's a method out there

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and this method could unlock a whole new level of mastery

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and not just in fencing in any area of life, really,

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that demands focused, demands strategy.

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Okay, I'm hooked already.

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So that's what we're diving into today

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with the Fantastic Four method.

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This was developed by French fencing master,

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Clemence Shrepper.

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Okay.

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We've got his interview here.

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It's with veteran fencer Thomas Ferrier.

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Great interview.

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And let me tell you, this guy, Shrepper,

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he doesn't mess around.

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He was ranked in the top 10 fencers globally

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and he credits his success to this unique approach.

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And what's fascinating here is that it's not just

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about physical skill.

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Shrepper argues that these four elements,

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the Fantastic Four, they're even more crucial

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than pure technique.

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Okay, I have to admit, when I first heard

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about this Fantastic Four business,

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I was a little skeptical.

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I just saw what these elements were,

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fixed target, distance, patience, and intentions.

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And now I'm completely intrigued.

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Because, I mean, patience and fencing.

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It seems almost counterintuitive, right?

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In such a fast-paced sport.

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It does.

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You'd think it would be all about speed and reflexes.

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But Shrepper's take on patience is really

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about choosing the right moment to act.

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I see.

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Not just reacting.

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Not just reacting to your opponent.

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So it's more about strategic observation,

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waiting for that perfect opening.

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Precisely.

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He compares it to a game of cat and mouse.

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Sometimes the patient's fencer is the one in control,

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dictating the pace,

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waiting for that perfect moment to strike.

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That makes a lot of sense.

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So how does this patience actually play out?

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Like on the piece, that's the designated area

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where a fencing bout takes place, by the way.

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How does it play out on the piece?

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Well, Shrepper breaks down distance

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into these fascinating zones,

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and these zones help illustrate this point.

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Comfort, danger, learning, and growth.

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Learning zone.

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You've got my attention.

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Tell me more about these zones.

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Okay, so imagine this.

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The comfort zone, that's where you're safe.

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You're safe from your opponent's kind of immediate attack.

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Makes sense.

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The danger zone, this is probably self-explanatory.

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That's where you're within their reach.

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But then there's the learning zone.

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This is interesting.

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That's where you can test the waters,

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see how your opponent reacts to your movements,

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without putting yourself at too much risk.

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And then the growth zone,

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this is where the magic happens.

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That's where you need to be to actually score.

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So you're using all these zones,

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kind of strategically then?

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So by understanding these zones,

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a fencer can actually control the pace and flow of the match.

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Precisely.

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It becomes less about reacting

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and more about calculated risk taking.

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Fascinating.

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Okay, so let's talk about fixed target for a second.

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That one seems pretty straightforward to me.

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You're focusing on your opponent, right?

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Well, but how does that tie into everything else?

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It's actually a little more nuanced than it sounds.

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Shrip for emphasizes focusing on a specific point

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Not their general movements.

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Okay, so not just like, oh, they're over there.

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More specific than there.

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Much more specific.

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This helps you avoid getting distracted

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by their blade or faints.

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You stay grounded in your intention.

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Which leads us nicely to the final element

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of the Fantastic Four, intentions.

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Intentions play into this whole mental game of fencing.

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Okay, so Shrip for differentiates

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between what he calls making act.

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And making react.

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Making act is about moving forward

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with a clear offensive plan.

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But here's the catch.

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You're always ready to adapt.

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Always analyzing, never locked into one single approach.

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So it's about being proactive, but also adaptable.

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And making react on the other hand

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is more about drawing out your opponent's reactions,

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observing their patterns,

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and then using that information to your advantage.

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So it's almost like you're playing chess,

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not just fencing.

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You're thinking several moves ahead,

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anticipating your opponent's every counter move.

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Like you're constantly probing,

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learning those patterns,

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and then boom, using that knowledge to your advantage.

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This is blowing my mind.

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So this isn't just some theoretical framework, right?

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I know what right.

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Shrip for actually uses this himself, right?

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Even at the highest levels of competition.

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Oh, absolutely.

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Even till the story in this interview

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about a match against, you know, a top ranked fencer,

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where he was actually losing at the start.

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Oh, wow.

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Beautiful.

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No way, what happened?

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Don't leave me hanging.

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So he says that by constantly analyzing his own actions,

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right, using this framework of the Fantastic Four,

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he was able to turn the match around and win.

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See, this is what I love about these deep dogs, right?

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What seems like kind of a niche topic,

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like, you know, competitive fencing, and boom,

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you uncover these incredibly powerful ideas,

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and these ideas have ripple effects, you know,

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way beyond that original context.

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Right, what's so fascinating to me

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is how this method, right,

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is designed for this high stakes world of fencing,

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but you can actually apply it to everyday life.

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Shrip for specifically talks about

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project management, actually.

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Oh yeah, you know, I can totally see that.

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Think about it.

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Project management, what is it?

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It's all about setting these clear goals,

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understanding your limitations,

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being strategic with your time,

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and knowing exactly what you wanna achieve.

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And that's exactly Shrip for his point, right?

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He's saying that the same principles

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that make a fence are successful,

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that focus that adaptability, that strategic thinking,

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you can apply those same principles

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to managing projects, leading a team,

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even just, you know, navigating those everyday challenges.

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Yeah, it's like this whole new framework

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for thinking about any situation, really.

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Where we need to be strategic, mentally tough,

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all of that.

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That's pretty powerful stuff.

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Yeah, and what's even more impressive to me is,

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like this isn't just some random theory he came up with,

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you know?

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This comes from decades of experience,

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his own competitive career, years of coaching.

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Yeah, and you can feel that authenticity

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in the interview, you know?

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He even talks about how he's still learning,

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he had to adapt his own training

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after a knee injury, actually.

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He talks about having to step back

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from competitive fencing for a while.

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But he used that time to kind of explore new avenues

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for sharing his knowledge.

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Like his YouTube channel.

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Fantastic for fencing progress and fencing

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on and off the strip.

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And even working on a second edition of his book.

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Hold on, a second edition, now that's exciting.

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Did he reveal any sneak peeks in the interview?

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He didn't give us everything.

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But he did mention that the second edition

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will dive even deeper into those real life applications

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of the Fantastic Four, particularly in project management.

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Okay, so I'm really curious to see what he comes up with.

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So to wrap things up, where can our listeners

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go if they want to learn more about Shrevefer

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and his Fantastic Four method?

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Well, I can start by checking out his book.

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That's How to Fence APP, the Fantastic Four Method.

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And that's available on Amazon.

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Great.

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And of course, there's his YouTube channel, Fantastic Four,

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Fencing Progress and Fencing on and off the Strip,

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where he shares even more insights, practical tips,

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all of that.

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It sounds like Shrevefer is really

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on to something with this whole Fantastic Four thing.

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What started as a deep dive into the world of competitive

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fencing has really turned into this fascinating exploration

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of strategy, mindset, personal growth.

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And isn't that the beauty of these deep dives?

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I know, right?

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You never know where we're going to end up.

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It's amazing, isn't it?

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We started talking about the technicalities of fencing,

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and somehow we've ended up in this space of self-improvement

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and personal growth.

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It's true.

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And it's funny how these things connect.

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You start digging into one thing,

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and it opens up all these other doors.

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I know.

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It's like Shrevefer's cracked the code, right?

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Not just on winning a match, but almost on winning in life.

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And the best part is he's not keeping it a secret.

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He's finding new ways to share this knowledge

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and to make it accessible.

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And speaking of in the interview,

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he actually mentioned that he was recently contacted

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by the French Fencing Federation.

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Oh, wow.

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Really?

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What for?

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So it sounds like they're interested in working with him,

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maybe collaborating on some online course project.

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Wow, that's amazing.

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I know, right?

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So they're really taking his method seriously.

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It seems like it.

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I mean, imagine that Shrevefer's fantastic for method,

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being taught and promoted with the backing of the French

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Fencing Federation.

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That's huge.

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I mean, if anyone can make this kind of intimidating

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world of fencing, right?

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If anyone can make that accessible, it's him, you know?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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With his insights, their platform,

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who knows what kind of an impact they could have.

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It's super exciting to think about.

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I mean, we could see a whole new generation of fencers.

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And these fencers aren't just skilled with a blade, right?

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But they're approaching the sport.

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They're approaching life with this whole new level

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of strategy, this awareness.

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They're just like clanting these seeds of knowledge.

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And watching them take root and blossom.

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I love that analogy.

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And the most exciting part is, this is just the beginning,

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right?

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Shrevefer talks about how he's already

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working on new projects.

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He's exploring even more applications

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of the Fantastic Four.

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And he's really pushing the boundaries of what

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we thought was possible.

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It's so inspiring, isn't it?

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It is.

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To see someone so passionate about sharing their knowledge.

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Absolutely.

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Now, not even just sharing it, but using it to really help

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others, to help them unlock their own potential.

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Exactly.

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So for our listeners who are just as energized by Shrevefer's

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insights as we are, where can they

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go to learn more to really dive into this Fantastic Four method?

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Well, they can start with his book.

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It's called How to Fence You Pay the Fantastic Four Method.

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It's available on Amazon.

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And he also has a YouTube channel, Fantastic Four Fencing

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Progress and Fencing on and off the Strip.

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And he shares a lot of practical tips there, answers questions.

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Awesome.

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Those are great places to start.

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There you have it, from the fence in peace

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to the far reaches of, well, life, really.

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Right.

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We've uncovered a treasured drove of wisdom.

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And it's all thanks to Clemont, Shrevefer,

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and his Fantastic Four method.

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Amazing.

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And I think the biggest takeaway here,

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and I hope our listeners feel this too,

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is that even if you've never held an epi in your life,

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these principles, this idea of focus, strategy, patience,

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intention, they can be applied to anything

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that you set your mind to.

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I completely agree.

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It's a powerful message.

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So the next time you're facing a challenge,

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no matter what it is, remember, Fantastic Four,

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you might just surprise yourself with what

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you're capable of achieving.

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Until next time, keep exploring, keep learning,

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and never underestimate the power of a good deep dive.

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See you next time.