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Breaking free from the chains of the past Where

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truth moves faster than a Holstein calf No law

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waiting on some printed page We're charting new

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ground in the digital age From genomic codes

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to robot facts We cut through the noise, no hold

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them back not your daddy's dairy news tonight

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we're sparking Welcome back to the Bullvine Podcast,

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where we cut through dairy industry noise to

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get you the insights that actually matter for

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your operation. And today, we're diving deep

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into a feature piece about the actual physics

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and economics of pair housing your dairy calves.

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Yeah, and we're pulling from a massive stack

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of sources today to really do this right. I mean,

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we've got a 2024 Journal of Dairy Science paper,

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a 2025 Scoping Review from Frontiers in Veterinary

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Science, and just this really extensive field

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data from both the university of british columbia

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and the university of florida right so the mission

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of this deep dive is to figure out if breaking

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the golden rule of calf rearing you know the

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individual hutch if that is actually the secret

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to saving your farm 10 grand a year all while

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making your house better competitors at the feed

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bunk which i mean let's be honest it sounds completely

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backwards to anyone who has spent their entire

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life raising calves oh totally but before we

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get to the how and the why of you know Actually

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tearing down the walls between your hutches.

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We really need to talk about why we are even

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having this conversation right now. Because if

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you are listening to this on the tractor right

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now, you already feel the massive squeeze on

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replacements. Right. You feel it in your wallet.

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Exactly. But hearing the actual national context,

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it really puts a chill down your spine. According

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to the USDA's January 2025 cattle report, the

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total heifer inventory is sitting at 3 .914 million

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head. Let me just put that 3 .914 million number

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into a historical perspective for you for a second.

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That is the lowest that specific inventory number

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has been since 1978. Wow. 1978. Jimmy Carter

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was in the White House in 1978. You're talking

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about a generational low here. I mean, most of

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the people managing your calf barns today weren't

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even born the last time we had this few replacement

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heifers in the national pipeline. Yeah. And if

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you think we are just, you know, at the bottom

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of a normal cycle and things will naturally bounce

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back by the fall, think again. Because the projections

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coming out of CoBank show that this number is

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going to drop even further. Right. There's no

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quick fix. No, not at all. We are not looking

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at any sort of structural recovery starting until

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maybe 2027. We are in a deep, deep structural

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deficit. And because of that deficit, the stakes

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for your dairy operation have literally never

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been higher. Let's talk about the cold, hard

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cash value of the animals sitting in your hutches

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this morning. Because replacement prices... are

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absolutely astronomical right now. Oh, they're

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painful. If you look at average Holsteins, just

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your standard middle -of -the -road heifers,

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they are commanding around $3 ,300 per head.

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And if your operation is dealing in premium strings,

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you know, the ones confirmed with sex semen,

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you are seeing them clear $4 ,000 in markets

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like the upper Midwest. Think about what that

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means for your daily routine, though. Every single

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wet calf that hits the ground on your dairy is

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worth more today than at any point in the last

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two decades. The math has entirely shifted beneath

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our feet. A dead calf isn't just a, you know,

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a frustrating loss anymore. It is a massive financial

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blow. You simply cannot afford to lose them.

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And maybe more importantly, you can't afford

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for them to underperform two years from now when

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they finally hit your milking string. Which brings

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us to the ultimate contrarian pivot we are unpacking

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today. We are talking about ditching the individual

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calf hutch. I can hear the collective gasp from

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here. Right, I know. The individual hutch has

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been the holy grail of dairy biosecurity for

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generations. But the data we are digging into

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today comes from a physicist -turned -dairy researcher

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who has proven that keeping calves in pairs can

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save a 300 -cow dairy $9 ,900 a year while actually

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improving their welfare. Okay, I am going to

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play the skeptic here. Because when you first

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slid this article across the table to me, my

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immediate reaction was a physicist. What does

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someone who spent their college years studying

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quantum mechanics know about scraping out a calf

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hutch at five in the morning? I knew you were

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going to say that. I mean, it sounds like the

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absolute classic disconnect between academic

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theory and farm level reality. Usually the research

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we see on calves stops the day they are weaned.

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We measure their starter intake. We put them

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on a scale for their weaning weight and we call

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it a day. If they hit the target, wait, we slap

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ourselves on the back. But stopping the clock

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at weaning creates a massive blind spot for farmers

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regarding long -term behavioral development.

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Let me introduce you to the researcher, Emily

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Miller -Kushin, because... Her unconventional

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path is actually the key to why this research

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is so disruptive. Okay, let's hear it. She grew

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up in rural Ontario, surrounded by agriculture,

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but she went to the University of Waterloo for

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a highly rigorous physics and mathematical physics

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program. And Waterloo is not a joke. It is one

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of the top STEM schools in North America. She

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was doing intense abstract math, but by her senior

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year, she hit a wall. Let me guess, she couldn't

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see how calculating the velocity of a subatomic

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particle helped anyone in the real world. You

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nailed it. She couldn't connect the abstract

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physics to the tangible things she actually cared

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about. So the summer before her final year, she

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assisted with some animal science research. Her

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mentor saw how lit up she was by the farm nata,

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way more engaged than she was with the physics,

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and suggested she make a hard pivot. So she just

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walked away from physics? Entirely. She entered

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a doctoral program in animal science at the University

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of Gulf, studying under Trevor DeVries at their

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animal welfare center, finished her PhD, and

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now runs an incredibly influential calf welfare

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program at the University of Florida. Look, I

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hear the backstory, and it's a great human interest

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piece. But if I am a producer listening to this

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while mixing a batch of milk replacer... My healthy

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skepticism is still flashing bright red. Sure.

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We have veterinarians, we have lifers who have

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studied ruminant digestion for 40 years. Why

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should I redesign my entire housing setup based

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on someone who started out looking at physics

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equations? I expected you to push back on that,

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but consider how a physicist actually processes

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information. She brought her entire physics toolkit

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with her to the dairy barn. She brought intense

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statistical rigor. She brought a deep comfort

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with massive long -term data sets that would

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make most people's eyes just glaze over. Right.

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She likes the math. In physics, you are trained

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from day one to question deeply held baseline

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assumptions. You never accept that something

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works just because that is how we have always

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done it. You test the baseline. That habit of

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questioning the unwritten rules of the dairy

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industry is exactly what calf research was starving

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for. I will give you that. If there is one fatal

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flaw in this industry, it is doing things a certain

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way because grandpa poured the concrete that

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way and his dad built the barn that way. The

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individual calf hutch is the ultimate sacred

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cow. We just accepted his gospel because we are

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terrified of the alternative. Well, the broader

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scientific community is certainly not terrified

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of her alternative. We need to validate the weight

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of her research before we get into the numbers.

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Because she didn't just publish a neat little

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paper in a fringe journal. She was awarded the

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2025 PCAS. PCAS. For those outside the D .C.

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grant bubble, that stands for the Presidential

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Early Career Award for Scientists and Engineers.

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It is the highest U .S. government award given

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to early career researchers across all scientific

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disciplines. Wait, so the federal government

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looked at every young scientist in the country

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across medicine, engineering, all of it, and

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said her work on dairy calves was among the most

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groundbreaking. Yes. And on top of that, she

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won the 2025 ADSA Foundation Scholar Award in

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Dairy Production. So the data she is bringing

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to your farm isn't just a theory. It is award

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-winning, rigorously vetted science that is shifting

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paradigms at the highest possible levels. Alright,

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you have built the credibility. Let's get into

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the mud. We need an industry reality check here,

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because the deeply ingrained belief, the absolute

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everyone -knows -this fact of dairy farming,

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is that individual hutches are the only barrier

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standing between your calves and a total respiratory

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disaster. Right, the old dogma. The old logic

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dictates that if you put two calves together,

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they're going to suck on each other's navels,

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they're going to share scours, and one is absolutely

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going to give the other pneumonia. And Miller

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Christian's team took that exact narrative and

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put it under a microscope. Let's look at her

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five -year study funded by USDA NIFA, which ran

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from 2020 through 2025. What makes this study

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almost unheard of is the timeline. She tracked

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these specific calves from birth all the way

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through their second lactation. Which requires

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an insane amount of funding and patience. Like

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we said earlier, most researchers pack up their

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clipboards at day 60. Tracking an animal into

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a second lactation means she is measuring how

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a housing decision you made on day two of a calf's

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life impacts an adult cow competing in the milking

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string three years later. Which is huge. That

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is the only metric a farmer actually cares about.

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We don't raise calves just to take cute pictures

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of them. We raise them to become highly profitable,

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durable cows. Well, the behavioral breakthrough

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that came out of this five -year tracking, which

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was published in the 2024 Journal of Dairy Science

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paper, is fascinating. They tracked Holstein

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heifers raised in pairs versus those raised individually.

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Then they observed their behavior during a social

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regrouping and a housing transition when they

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were pregnant heifers. They specifically looked

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at how these animals reacted under competitive

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pressure. Let's translate competitive pressure

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into plain farmer English for a second. We're

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talking about that brutal moment when a fresh

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two -year -old heifer gets dropped into a pen

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with older, mature boss cows. It's intimidating.

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Oh, it's a war zone. The bunk space is tight,

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the older cows are throwing their heads around,

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and that young heifer has to figure out how to

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get her head through the headlocks and eat without

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getting bullied out of the way. What do the numbers

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actually show? The pair -housed animals spent

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4 .2 more minutes per hour feeding. But the metric

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that really jumps off the page is their feed

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bunk visits. The pair -housed heifers visited

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the feed bunk 1 .5 times per hour. The individually

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raised heifers, only 0 .8 times per hour. That's

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nearly double. Exactly. The heifers that grew

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up with a roommate were visiting the bunk nearly

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twice as often under the exact same competitive

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pressure. Let me stop you right there, because

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if you are milking cows right now, this is your

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aha moment. If you have a heifer that is willing

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to fight for bunk space, a heifer that marches

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up to the feed 1 .5 times an hour instead of

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hiding in the back of the free stalls, she is

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consuming significantly more dry matter. And

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dry matter intake is the absolute engine of milk

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production, period. If she doesn't eat, she doesn't

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milk. What this data says is that whether she

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fights for that TMR or backs down to a boss cow

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was hardwired into her brain by whether she had

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a buddy in her hutch two years prior. The study

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concluded that pre -weaning social housing establishes

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long -term effects on behavior and the ability

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to adapt to novel environments. It all comes

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down to social learning. Calves learn to eat

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by watching their pen mates. We severely underestimate

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the role of the social environment, but calves

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develop preferences for feeds that others in

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their group are eating. Which makes sense. They

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learn how to interact, how to yield, and how

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to assert themselves way before they ever see

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a freestall barn. If they are in a solitary hutch,

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they never learn a single social eating cue.

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It makes total sense if you step back from the

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farm. If you raise a kid in an isolated room

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for years and then suddenly drop them into a

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chaotic high school cafeteria. they are going

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to be terrified. They won't know how to navigate

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the social dynamics to get their lunch tray.

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That's a perfect analogy. We're doing the exact

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same thing to our heifers. We put them in solitary

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confinement, and then we stand around scratching

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our heads when they act timid at the bunk as

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fresh cows. And Miller Fission pointed out in

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a recent interview that pair -housed calves actually

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eat more solid feed earlier in life precisely

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because of this social learning. They figure

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the grain bucket out together. But... But I can

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hear you winding up to ask the obvious question

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here. You are thinking about the BRD myth, the

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bovine respiratory disease fear. Oh, absolutely

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I am. Because that is the very first piece of

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pushback you will get from any herd manager.

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Sure, they might be bolder at the bunk two years

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from now. But if they die of pneumonia at three

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weeks old, they're going to make it to the milking

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string to show off that boldness. Right. We have

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been preached to for decades that shared airspace

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in a hutch equals shared respiratory bugs. End

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of story. Let's look at the 2025 scoping review

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published in Frontiers in Veterinary Science

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to address that head on. This review aggregated

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pair housing studies published since 2016. They

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look specifically at the health outcomes. Out

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of seven specific BRD studies that they reviewed,

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take a guess at how many showed an association

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between pair housing and increased respiratory

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disease. Well, knowing how these deep dives go,

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I'm going to guess the number is shockingly low.

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One, two, zero, zero. Out of the seven studies

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reviewed, exactly seven showed NO association

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between pair housing and an increase in respiratory

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disease. And I want to make this crystal clear

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to you listening right now. This is not cherry

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-picked data to support a narrative. That was

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the entirety of the BRD data they examined in

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that review. We were talking about studies from

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UC Davis, UW -Madison, the University of Florida,

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UBC, across the board. Social housing, specifically

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pair housing, did not increase BRD incidents.

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I am having a hard time wrapping my head around

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that because it is a massive paradigm shift.

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If you were telling me that putting two calves

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together doesn't actually spike my pneumonia

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rates, then the primary foundational argument

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for keeping them isolated completely crumbles.

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It really does. But here's the thing. Farmers

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don't buy reciprocating saws and start cutting

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walls out of their hutches just because a paper

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says it improves welfare. They change their setups

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when the math demands it. If they're equally

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healthy, where is the cash? Let's follow the

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money and break down that $9 ,900 advantage we

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teased at the start, tailored specifically for

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a standard three -numbered cow dairy. To anchor

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the math, we need to look at national pre -weaned

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mortality rates. Okay, way out. The 2014 NAHMS

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data, which is the National Animal Health Monitoring

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System, the gold standard for USDA benchmarks,

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put national pre -weaned mortality around 5 .0%.

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A new NAHMS study is pending, but let's be realistic

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about what is happening on the ground. Many commercial

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farms are running closer to 6%. Sadly, 6 % is

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very common. When you factor in the brutal winter

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cold snaps, unpredictable scours outbreaks, and

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the sheer labor shortage, meaning your calf feeders

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have less time to observe each individual animal,

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6 % happens fast. It does. So on a 300 -cow dairy,

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assuming you are calving relatively evenly year

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-round, a 6 % pre -weaned mortality rate on your

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heifer crop means you are hauling about 9 dead

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heifer calves to the compost pile a year. Let's

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tie those nine dead heifers back to the replacement

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costs we established earlier. With an average

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Holstein replacement sitting at $3 ,300 right

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now, those nine calves represent between $25

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,000 and $36 ,000 in lost inventory value. That

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hurts to think about. And keep in mind, that

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is just the raw, unrealized replacement value.

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That doesn't even begin to calculate the sum

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costs of the milk replacer you already fed them,

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the vet bills and electrolytes you pumped into

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them trying to save them, or the labor hours

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your team wasted. It is a staggering leak in

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farm profitability when you look at it annually.

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But you just told me the BRD rates are the same,

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not necessarily lower. So how does pair housing

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actually fix that leak and save us money? The

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literature shows that while BRD might remain

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neutral. Pear housing improves overall health

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resilience and reduces other major issues. Miller

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Christian's own 2021 JDS work found a tendency

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for reduced scours in pear -housed calves. Interesting.

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Less scours. When calves are less stressed, when

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they learn to eat solid feed earlier because

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of that social learning we discussed, their immune

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systems are fundamentally better supported. The

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aggregated data suggests that if a farm switches

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to pear housing, they can conservatively drop

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that overall mortality rate from 6 % down to

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4%. Okay, let's run that through the calculator.

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Dropping from 6 % to 4 % mortality on a 300 -cow

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dairy saves you three hyper calves a year. Multiply

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those three saved calves by that $3 ,300 average

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replacement cost, and it equals exactly $9 ,900

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saved annually, just in retained inventory. You

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are putting almost $10 ,000 back into your operations

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equity just by letting two calves share a space.

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To a farmer writing checks, that is incredibly

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tangible. Ten grand pays for a mountain of milk

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replacer or a couple months of your calf feeder

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salary. But there is also a growth velocity aspect

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to this, right? It's not just about minimizing

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death loss. It's about how fast and efficiently

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they grow before you wean them. The weight gain

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bonus is undeniable. Research out of the University

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of British Columbia published in 2023 isolated

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this specific metric. They found that pair -housed

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calves averaged an advantage of 130 grams per

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day in weight gain pre -weaning compared to individually

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housed calves. And this has been a consistent

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finding across multiple massive Canadian studies.

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To someone sitting in an office. 130 grams a

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day might sound like rounding error, but let's

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look at a 60 -day weaning period. That compounds

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into nearly 17 extra pounds at weaning. That's

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a huge difference on a calf. A bigger, heavier

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calf with a more developed skeletal frame transitions

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off milk better, reaches breeding weight earlier,

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and ultimately calves in as a larger, more competitive

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animal. What did Miller Cushion's Florida study

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show regarding this growth? Her 2025 study at

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UF was a massive undertaking. They looked at

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100 pens, 50 individual versus 50 paired, and

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showed clear, statistically significant performance

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benefits from pair housing right from birth.

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But the most fascinating variable they uncovered

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was that these advantages were particularly strong

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during the cooler months. Which paints a very

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vivid picture. Picture your farm in February.

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The wind is howling and the temperature is sitting

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at minus 10 degrees. An isolated cack in a single

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plastic hutch is shivering, burning every single

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calorie of that expensive milk replacer just

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to keep her core temperature high enough to keep

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her heart beating. It's all going to maintenance.

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Exactly. But she has a buddy. They cuddle up

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like a pile of puppies in the deep straw. They

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share body heat, they keep their core temperatures

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up naturally, and those calories from the milk

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replacer actually go towards skeletal growth

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instead of just basic survival. The physiological

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math works beautifully, but as a practical dairyman,

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I know you still have logistical nightmares running

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through your head. Let's pivot to case studies

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and actual implementation on the farm, because

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the theory only matters if you can execute it.

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Let's tackle the biggest, ugliest practical fear

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first. Solving the cross -sucking problem. We

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acknowledged it earlier, but we need to dive

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deep into it. Farmers are terrified of cross

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-sucking. It's gross. If you have ever walked

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a pen of recently weaned heifers and seen them

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grouped up, aggressively sucking on each other's

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ears, navels, or developing teats, it drives

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you absolutely crazy. We put them in individual

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hutches specifically to stop that oral fixation

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from ruining, developing utter tissue, or causing

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blind quarters down the road. Miller -Kishen's

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data gives us a surprisingly simple, almost shockingly

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low -tech fix for this. To completely reduce

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abnormal oral behaviors, especially around that

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high stress weaning period when the urge to suck

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is highest, all you have to do is provide hay

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from day one alongside their starter grain. Wait,

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hold on. Day one. We have been preached to for

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years by nutritionists not to give hay early

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on. The dogma is that hay takes up physical space

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in the rumen and prevents them from eating enough

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of the highly digestible starter grain they need

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to develop their rumen papillae. You were telling

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me to throw hay in there immediately. I know

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it goes against the old dogma, but her research...

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And the broader literature shows that providing

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hay from the time you introduce starter grain

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universally benefits the calves. It gives them

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a physical, natural outlet for that innate oral

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foraging behavior. So they chew the hay instead

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of their roommate. Right. If they're chewing

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on long -stem hay, they are not chewing on their

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penmate's ear. The data consistently shows it

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drastically reduces cross -sucking. It is a low

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-cost, incredibly effective intervention that

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solves your biggest fear. All right. I will concede

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that a handful of hay is a cheap fix for the

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cross -sucking. But let's talk about the facilities

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because I am not going to march into my loan

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officer's office and ask for a half million dollar

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line of credit to build a brand new state -of

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-the -art pair housing calf barn just because

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a physicist published a paper. My concrete pads

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are already poured and my white plastic hutches

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are sitting right there. You don't need a new

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barn and you don't need a loan. This is where

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Laura Whalen's commercial farm study at UBC is

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so critical. She proved that facility conversions

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can happen with the exact equipment you already

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own. The setup she used on commercial dairies

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was incredibly simple. She literally just pushed

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two standard individual hutches together and

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created a shared outdoor fence space in front

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of them. You are saying the massive infrastructure

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overhaul is just pushing two pieces of plastic

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side by side and wrapping one big wire panel

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around the front of both. That is literally it.

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Two calves, two hutches, one shared yard. The

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calves have the option to sleep in separate hutches

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if they want their space, or they can cuddle

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up in one together. Other operations have converted

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their existing super hutches just by taking a

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reciprocating saw and removing a shared plastic

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wall between two hutches placed end -to -end.

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That's brilliant. UW -Madison's Dairy Welfare

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Program actually published a step -by -step introduction

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guide for commercial farms, specifically designed

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for operations using existing individual hutches.

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The capital cost is basically zero. It is just

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the labor time required to rearrange your existing

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plastic. That completely removes the financial

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barrier to entry. If I don't have to pour new

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concrete or buy new steel, I can test this concept

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tomorrow morning. But I do have a major question

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about group size. If pairing two calves together

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is good, is throwing eight of them together better?

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What if I just take a giant super hutch and throw

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ten calves in it? You have to be very careful

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there. The data provides a golden rule of group

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size, and it is a hard boundary. Pair housing,

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exactly two calves, works beautifully. But the

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data shows that disease risk starts to climb

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significantly, almost exponentially, once you

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get above eight calves per pen. Which may sense.

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And this is especially true if you are running

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a continuous flow system where you are constantly

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adding new wet calves to an older group. Because

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when you do that, you are mixing completely different

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levels of immunity. The older calves are shedding

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pathogens that the two -day -old calf has absolutely

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zero defense against. It's a recipe for a massive

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scours outbreak. To keep the biosecurity math

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manageable and safe, you need to stick strictly

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to pairs, or at least... Very small, static groups

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of similar ages where it is all in, all out.

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Pair housing gives you the behavioral and welfare

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benefits of social interaction without crossing

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that dangerous threshold into high disease transmission

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risk. Okay, we have the economic math, we have

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the facility solution with the reciprocating

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saw, and we have the disease mitigation strategy.

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But I want to zoom out for a second and look

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at the future implications and the regulatory

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reality hitting our industry. It's coming. Even

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if a farmer is listening to this in his truck,

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stubbornly gripping the steering wheel and saying,

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I don't care about the 1 .5 bunk visits, my individual

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hutches are fine. The industry is moving, whether

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U .S. producers like it or not. The global industry

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is absolutely moving, and it is moving fast.

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Let's look at the coming mandates internationally.

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Canada has a draft code of practice for the care

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and handling of dairy cattle. This isn't just

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a suggestion. This draft actually mandates that

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healthy calves must be housed in pairs or groups

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by two to four weeks of age. Mandatory. Yes,

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and that mandate becomes effective by 2031. 2031

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sounds far away to a civilian, but in farming

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years, that is right around the corner. That

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is barely two full heifer life cycles away. And

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it isn't just Canada driving this, right? The

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Netherlands is targeting an even more aggressive

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timeline of 2030 for similar pair or group housing

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requirements. The implication here for the American

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listener is massive. If your U .S. operation

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ships genetics, embryos, or dairy products that

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eventually end up in these international supply

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chains, and most major co -ops do, you are going

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to be forced to comply with these global standards.

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We all know exactly how this works domestically

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too. It starts in Europe or Canada. The multinational

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processors adopt it to protect their public image,

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and then they bring those standards right to

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our doorstep. Processor audits are already evolving.

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The farm program, which basically dictates whether

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you even have a market to ship your milk in the

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U .S., is increasingly looking at calf welfare

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metrics. And let me guess who is involved in

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that. Emily Miller Cushion was just appointed

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to their animal care committee. They're a very

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researcher who's... data we've been analyzing

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for the last hour. When the researcher who proved

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that pair housing is superior gets put on the

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committee that writes the processor audits, the

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writing is on the wall in permanent marker. The

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pipeline from interesting academic research to

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mandatory processor requirement. is getting incredibly

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short it is shrinking from decades down to just

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a few years it really is i will argue all day

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long that staying ahead of these mandates and

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adapting your farm now on your own terms is vastly

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cheaper and less stressful than scrambling to

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retrofit your barn when the dairy co -op field

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rep shows up with a clipboard and threatens to

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pull your milk contract adapting now allows you

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to figure out the labor flows the hutch placement

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and the feeding protocols without a gun to your

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head Which brings us to our contrarian takes

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and action plans. Because there is a very strong,

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very vocal wait -and -watch narrative out there

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among top producers. You hear guys saying, look,

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my pre -wean mortality is already under 3%, I

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am a top -tier calf raiser, I don't need to change

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my individual hutches because my calves simply

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aren't dying. I know plenty of herdsmen exactly

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like that. Their calf barns are immaculate. They

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wash every bottle with hot water and acid, their

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colostrum protocols are bulletproof, and their

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death loss is basically zero. It is really hard

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to look those guys in the eye and tell them to

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mess with success. The analytical pushback you

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have to give them is that they are only measuring

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success up to day 60. Yes, your mortality is

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under 3%. Congratulations. But what about your

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fresh heifer feed intake? Are they slow to compete

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at the bunk post calving? Are your two -year

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-olds lagging in their first lactation peaks

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compared to what your mature herd is doing? That

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is the hidden bottleneck that nobody tracks back

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to the calf barn. A farmer might be blaming the

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genetic sire, or they are firing their nutritionist

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over the transition diet, or they are blaming

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overcrowding in the fresh pen. When in reality,

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the housing environment from two years ago is

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the hidden variable holding back those first

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lactation peaks. They simply don't have the behavioral

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resilience to fight a boss cow for their feed.

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We need to evaluate the options for testing this

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so a farm doesn't have to flip the whole operation

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tomorrow. Let's look at the trade -offs of what

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we call the 30 -day test versus the 90 -day full

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transition. A full transition takes serious time

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and management bandwidth. You have to adjust

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your milk feeding schedules. If you are using

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automated calf feeders, it simplifies things

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considerably because the machine handles the

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volume. But if you are bottle feeding or bucket

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feeding out of a side -by -side, your staff has

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to be retrained. They have to monitor pairs rather

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than individuals. They have to stand there and

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make sure one aggressive, greedy calf isn't bullying

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the other and drinking both bottles. That is

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a real hurdle initially. But over time, those

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full transitions actually save massive amounts

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of labor. Think about the physical steps. Walking

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up to one shared pen and feeding two calves takes

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less time and fewer literal footsteps than walking

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to two completely separate, spread -out hutches.

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Monitoring the health of one pair is faster than

00:28:41.529 --> 00:28:44.509
checking two isolated individuals. The labor

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efficiency of scaling this actually works in

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your favor once the team gets the hang of the

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new protocol. I think we have beaten the theory

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and the data to death. We have laid out the physicist's

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perspective, the economic math, the facility

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solutions, and the looming regulatory threat.

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Let's make this highly actionable for the listener.

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A farmer just finished milking and is driving

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to the feed store. What are the three things

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they need to remember from today? Let's break

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it down into three distinct takeaways with timelines

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for each so you can actually implement this.

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Takeaway number one is what we are calling the

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30 -day pair test. For your immediate action

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this week... Don't change your whole farm. Don't

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cause a panic. Just pick your next 10 heifer

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calves to be born. Pair them up at three to five

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days old using the modified existing hutches.

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Use that UBC model where you just push two hutches

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together and share a single wire panel. Keep

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it simple. Exactly. For your medium -term strategy

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over the next three to six months, track them

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relentlessly. Track their solid feed intake.

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Track their health events. Do they actually get

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more scours of BRD? And weigh them at weaning.

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Compare those 10 paired calves against 10 individual

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calves raised in the exact same weather conditions.

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For your long -term positioning over the next

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one to two years, use that specific on -farm

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data to justify whether you scale this up to

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the whole herd. Your own farm's data beats a

00:30:05.190 --> 00:30:08.430
university study every single time. I love the

00:30:08.430 --> 00:30:11.049
pragmatism of that. Test it small, measure the

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results with your own eyes, then scale. What

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is takeaway two? Takeaway number two is the day

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one hay protocol to kill the cross -sucking fear.

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Immediate action for this week. Start offering

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a handful of long stem hay alongside the starter

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grain to all your pre -weaned calves from day

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one. Ignore the old dogma and just start doing

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it tomorrow morning. Just jump in. Yep. Medium

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term over the next three to six months, monitor

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the drop in cross -sucking behavior. Watch them

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closely as they approach weaning when that motivation

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to suck peaks. You will see a massive difference

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in their oral behavior. And long -term, over

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the next one to two years, make early hay provision

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a strictly written, non -negotiable standard

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operating procedure in your calf program protocols.

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Hand it to every new calf feeder you hire. It

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is incredibly simple, cheap, and it solves the

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biggest behavioral complaint. What is the final

00:30:58.700 --> 00:31:00.700
takeaway? Takeaway number three is all about

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regulatory and economic positioning. Immediate

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action this week. Walk out to your calf area

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and honestly assess your current hutch setup.

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Figure out exactly what it would cost in labor

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hours and minimal materials to remove shared

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walls or combined pens. Just do the mental math

00:31:17.369 --> 00:31:19.369
on the logistics so you know what you're up against.

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Good advice. Medium term, three to six months

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from now. Audit your current pre -wean mortality

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rate. Be brutally honest with your software records.

00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:31.440
If your death loss is over 5%, pull out a calculator

00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.799
and figure out your exact loss inventory value

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at today's $3 ,300 average replacement cost.

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Stare at that number until it makes you uncomfortable.

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That'll motivate anyone. Long -term, one to two

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years out. Have a fully operational, smooth -running

00:31:43.740 --> 00:31:46.579
pair housing protocol in place well before those

00:31:46.579 --> 00:31:49.140
2030 and 2031 international mandates hit the

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broader supply chain. Control the transition

00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.539
on your timeline, not the processor's timeline

00:31:53.539 --> 00:31:55.339
when they show up with an audit form. Those are

00:31:55.339 --> 00:31:57.980
phenomenal concrete steps that anyone can start

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today. And it all traces back to the value of

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having someone completely outside our industry

00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.759
bubble looking at our daily practices with fresh

00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.819
eyes. The dairy industry was changed dramatically

00:32:08.819 --> 00:32:11.619
decades ago by Robert Chicoine, who showed us

00:32:11.619 --> 00:32:13.619
what one unconventional thinker could do with

00:32:13.619 --> 00:32:16.180
the bull nobody wanted. And now Emily Miller

00:32:16.180 --> 00:32:18.900
Krishan is showing us what a mathematical physicist's

00:32:18.900 --> 00:32:21.140
training does when you point it at a calf barn.

00:32:21.500 --> 00:32:24.000
It challenges the gospel, it redefines the math,

00:32:24.140 --> 00:32:26.079
and it changes the behavioral outcomes that your

00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.099
heifers carry for the rest of their lives. So

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here's a final provocative question for you to

00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.299
mull over on your drive back from the feed store.

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What is the most unconventional background on

00:32:36.339 --> 00:32:38.700
your farm team right now? Who is the outsider

00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:40.859
on your payroll? And what are they seeing that

00:32:40.859 --> 00:32:42.900
the dairy lifers have gone entirely blind to?

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This has been another Bullvine podcast from the

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00:32:48.380 --> 00:32:52.380
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