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Creeping over fields of green Remembering the

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faces The moments unseen The hands that built

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a dynasty The vision in their eyes Echoes in

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the auction bar Beneath an endless sky This is

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the bull buy Turn the bar Welcome back to the

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Bullvine Podcast. I'm your host. And today we're

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sharing a story that, well, it honestly just

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stopped us in our tracks. And I'm your co -host.

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And yeah, this is the exact kind of deep dive

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that reminds you why you got into dairy in the

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first place. But honestly, it also serves as

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a massive warning about the decisions we're making

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right now. Exactly. Because we usually sit here

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and we talk about genetic progress as this linear

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celebratory march forward. Like every year the

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cows just get better and better. But when you

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dig into the source material we have in front

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of us today, you realize we are actually looking

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at a bottleneck event. A singularity, really.

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Yeah, a singularity. A moment. where the entire

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global dairy industry basically passed through

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the genetic filter of a single animal. Right,

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and what's wild is that this didn't start in

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some corporate boardroom in Chicago or a high

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-tech genetic laboratory over in Europe. It started

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in the mud, in Marengo, Iowa, right in the middle

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of a brutal economic crisis. So let's drop you,

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the listener, right into that context, because

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you really can't understand the decision -making

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here without understanding the fear that was

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driving everything. The year is 1981, and for

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the guys listening who were farming back then,

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you know exactly what the air felt like. Oh yeah,

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they do. But for the younger generation, you

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have to understand, this was the post -Volcker

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shock. Right, we aren't talking about margins

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being kind of tight like we... complain about

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today. We are talking about prime interest rates

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hitting 20 percent, 21 percent. Which is just

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unimaginable. It was suffocating. Operating loans

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were literally strangling people out of the business.

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Land values were beginning to wobble and crash.

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So when we talk about the Tompkins family out

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in Marengo and we see them standing in their

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barn with a vet to do an embryo transfer, this

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is not a hobby. This isn't them just playing

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around with the genetics for fun. No. At that

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kind of interest rate. Every single dollar you

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spend has to fight for its life. And back in

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1981, embryo transfer ET was not the routine

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Tuesday morning task that it is for so many herds

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now. Not at all. It was non -surgical recovery,

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sure. But it was still a very high -end, high

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-cost, high -stress procedure. You're pouring

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expensive hormones into a cow. You're paying

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for the flush media, the microscope time. You've

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got recipient cows standing by just eating feed.

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And you're doing the math in your head the entire

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time the vet is working. That's the real gut

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punch of the early 80s economy. You're standing

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there thinking to yourself, I need five embryos

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just to break even on this vet bit. Oh, you need

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a jackpot. You need volume. If you flush a cow

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and you get zero, or you get one, you haven't

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just lost a morning, you've torched capital that

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you probably borrowed at 18%. So picture the

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scene. The vet finishes the procedure on this

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cow. Her name is Tumar Wayne Hay. They take the

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dish over to the microscope, and the tension

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in that barn had to be just thick enough to cut

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with a knife. And the result comes back. It's

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not 10. It's not 5. One. One. One single viable

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embryo. It's a complete disaster on paper. Statistically,

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that is a total failure. You can just imagine

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Randy Tompkins staring at that bill, then staring

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at the cow and thinking, I just threw money into

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a bottomless pit. Because you have to account

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for the attrition rates, right? Exactly. Getting

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an embryo in the dish is just step one. You have

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to implant it. The recipient has to carry it

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all the way to term without aborting. The calf

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has to be born alive. And then the ultimate coin

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flip, there has to be the right sex. In 1981,

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long before genomic sorting was even a dream,

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you're praying for a bull if you want to sell

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to an AI stud or a heifer if you want to build

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your own family line. If you get a bull calf

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that nobody wants to buy, Well, you've got a

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very expensive steer. But that one embryo, that

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single, incredibly expensive, high -risk roll

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of the dice, it stuck. It carried. And nine months

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later, out comes a bull calf. Timur Blackstar.

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And if Randy Tompkins had known what was standing

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in the straw that morning, he wouldn't have been

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worried about the vet bill for a single second?

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No, he wouldn't have. He would have been worried

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about the fact that he was looking at the genetic

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architect of the next 40 years of Holstein history.

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Just to anchor this for you listening. We aren't

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just telling a fun Good Bull story today. According

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to the USDA and the Council on Dairy Cattle Breeding,

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this specific animal, born from that one bad

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bed flush, now constitutes 15 .8 % of the distinct

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DNA of the entire modern Holstein breed. That

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number is just staggering. I mean, it's higher

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than Pawnee Farmer Linda Chief. It's higher than

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Round Oak Rag apple elevation. If you walked

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into your barn this morning and you milked 100

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cows, statistically, the genetics of roughly

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16 of those cows are purely derived from this

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one single embryo in Iowa. He is the invisible

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ghost standing in every single stall. How does

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that even happen? Seriously, how do we go from

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a single embryo in a working barn in Iowa? to

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a bull that essentially colonized the entire

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global breed. To figure that out, we really have

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to strip away all the mythology and look at the

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actual cattle themselves, because the Tompkins

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farm wasn't a genetic boutique. Not at all. This

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was a row crop and dairy operation. And that

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matters so much to this story. It wasn't some

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tax write -off for a millionaire trying to breed

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show winners. Corn prices dictated the culling

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rate. If a cow didn't breed back, she was gone.

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If she had bad feet and couldn't handle the concrete

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or the dirt lot, she was gone. There was absolutely

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no tenderness for a pretty cow that couldn't

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go out and work. It was a crucible. And that

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environment perfectly shaped the maternal line.

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Let's look at the dam for a second. Tamara Wayne

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Higgy, she's a second lactation cow, doing over

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25 ,000 pounds of milk, which in the early 80s,

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that is serious, serious production. But when

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you look at the classification reports and the

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old photos, she's not this glossy magazine beauty

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queen. No, she was functional. She was solid.

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But, you know, the magic really happens a generation

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back from her. We need to talk about the Grand

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Dame, Hannah. Royal Cedar O 'Connor. This is

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the archetype. When I look at her data, I see

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the exact kind of cow that every commercial berryman

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quietly loves but never writes articles about.

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She's the invisible cow. And I mean that as the

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highest possible compliment. You know this cow.

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Every farmer listening knows this cow. She's

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the one in your herd with the faded 300 series

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ear tag because she's been there for so long.

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She's a deep heart girth. Massive capacity for

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roughage. She has an udder that isn't sty high,

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but it's just welded on. Right. The texture is

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right, but mostly she's invisible because she

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never appears on the vet's problem list. Exactly.

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She never has ketosis. Yeah. She never has milk

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fever. She breeds on the first service every

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single time. She just stands at the bunk, eats

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her corn silage, and fills the bulk tank. Hannah

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was the engine. And Randy Tompkins, smart breeder

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that he was, realized that while Hannah wasn't

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going to win the World Dairy Expo, she was exactly

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the biological machine he needed to replicate.

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So he takes that highly functional, high capacity,

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invisible maternal line and he crosses it with

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Cal Clark, board chairman. Now, why that specific

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mating? This is the key to everything. Break

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down the sigh for us. What did board chairman

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bring to the table? Board chairman was the frame

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bowl. He brought the stature. He brought the

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stretch. But he needed a cow with real guts to

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handle that frame. If you put a big, massive

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frame bull on a frail cow, you get an absolute

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disaster. But you put him on Hannah's line, you

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get the perfect synthesis. And that's what Blackstar

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was. He was this perfect synthesis of show ring

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stature and commercial bunk capacity. Born May

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17th, 1983. Coal black calf. And honestly. They

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probably just hoped he'd be good enough to sell

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to a stud to cover that awful flush bill. Oh,

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they probably would have been thrilled with a

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$500 check just to break even. But to really

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understand why Black Star exploded, why he became

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this absolute singularity, we have to pause the

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biography of the bull himself and look at the

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battlefield he was born into. Because the mid

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-1980s in the Holstein world wasn't just a time

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of transition. It was a full -blown civil war.

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It was incredibly tribal. You had two camps that

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were drifting so far apart they could barely

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even speak the same language anymore. You had

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the production purists on one side and the type

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purists on the other, and both of them were hitting

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a massive wall. Let's unpack the production side

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first. The dominant force was a bull named Carlin

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M. Ivanhoe Bell. Everyone just called him Bell.

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If you look at these sire summaries from 1986

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or 1987, Bell is essentially a god. His production

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numbers were plus 1 ,704 pounds of milk. In that

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era, that is just astronomical. He was single

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-handedly flooding the bulk tanks. But there

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was a catch. And it was a really heartbreaking

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one for the farmers milking his daughters. Bell

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is often called the worst best bull in history.

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His daughters would milk their absolute hearts

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out, but physically they were built like matchsticks.

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It was the udders specifically. We need to get

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a little technical here. It was the medial suspensory

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ligament. For the listener who isn't staring

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at an anatomy diagram right now, that is the

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central wall of tissue that divides the outer

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right and left and physically anchors it up to

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the body wall. It's the primary support system

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holding everything together. Exactly. And adult

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bell daughters had almost zero strength there.

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So you'd have a heifer, she calves in, she looks

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okay. She milks a hundred pounds a day, which

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is great. But by the time she hits her second

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lactation, that ligament just snaps. The udder

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floor completely drops out. The teats splay out

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sideways. We call it strutting. And once that

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happens, it's basically over. You can't get the

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milking machine on her. The udder is dragging

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in the mud. It's getting stepped on by her own

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hooves. She's getting mastitis constantly. Farmers

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were having to cull these incredible, unbelievable

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producers at just four years old because they

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literally fell apart. It was emotionally draining.

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I remember talking to guys from that era, and

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they absolutely hated it. You raise a calf for

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two whole years, she milks like a freight train,

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and then you have to put her on the cull trailer

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because her body just failed her. It was financially

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stupid. So naturally, the pendulum swings wildly

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the other way. Everyone runs to the type solution.

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And the absolute king of that side was Hanover

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Hill Starbuck. The glamour bull. Beautiful, beautiful

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cattle. Wide rumps, perfectly attached udders,

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incredibly strong feet and legs. They won literally

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every show in North America. But in this of a

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bit, but you looked at the milkshake at the end

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of the month and it was incredible. light. They

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lacked the volume. They lacked that sheer metabolic

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will to produce massive amounts of milk that

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the Bells had. They were pretty, but they didn't

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pay the mortgage. So this is the desperation

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of 1988. You're sitting at your kitchen table

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trying to order semen for the year. Use Bellet

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and get a cow that pakes the bills but essentially

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dies in two years. Or do you use Starbucks and

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get a cow that lives forever but doesn't actually

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make any money? Everyone was searching for the

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unicorn. The type and production crossover, the

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absolute holy grail. And honestly, nobody thought

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it actually existed. The genetic correlation

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between high type and high milk was widely accepted

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to be negative. You weren't supposed to get both.

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It was biologically contradictory. Enter Ron

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Long. And this part of the story plays out like

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a detective novel. Ron is working with select

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sires. He's traveling all over the country, scoring

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cows, looking at classification sheets. And remember,

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there's no internet. He's digging through actual

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paper stacks. And he starts seeing this ghost.

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in the data code 7h 1897 he doesn't even know

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the bull's actual name at first he just sees

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the pattern he goes into a herd to score some

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cows and he sees this heifer that is big strong

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has a great udder he checks the paper sire 7h

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1897 he goes to the next farm the next day another

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incredible one sire 7h 1897 He starts calling

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back to headquarters. He's telling them, I don't

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know who this bull is, but his daughters are

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the real deal. They are fixing the bell udders,

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but they are milking exactly like bells. And

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that is the absolute definition of proof on concrete.

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There was no slick marketing hype. Nobody was

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pushing this bull in magazines. This bull was

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proving himself in the stanchions before anyone

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even knew how to pronounce his name. And when

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the veil was finally lifted, when the numbers

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officially dropped in January of 1989, it was

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a complete stampede. The numbers were shocking.

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Plus 58 pounds of fat. plus 63 pounds of protein.

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And a plus 3 .16 PTT for type. We really have

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to contextualize that. Plus 3 .16. Today we see

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high type numbers and we just think, okay, sure.

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But in 1989... It was literal science fiction.

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The average breed type was hovering right around

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zero. A good type bull was maybe plus 1 .5. To

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be over plus 3 .0 and have massive positive milk

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components, it completely broke the paradigm.

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It was like seeing a semi truck that could corner

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like a... Ferrari. It just wasn't supposed to

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happen. And by 1992, he officially tops the PPI

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list with 1 ,256 points. And then the frenzy

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really begins. Oh, it was absolute chaos. Describe

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the scene at Select Sires when that happened.

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The switchboard was completely overwhelmed. You

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have to remember, you couldn't just go online

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and click order and have it shipped. People were

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physically calling in. Wire transfers were coming

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in from Germany, from the Netherlands, from Australia.

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Breeders. All over the world simultaneously realized

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that this was the answer to the Bell versus Starbuck

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problem. And there was a massive scarcity issue,

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too. Today, with modern technology and collection

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methods, we can produce millions of units of

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semen from a top bowl. Back then, they just couldn't.

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Jeff Ziegler from Select Sires actually said

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they only ever sold about 500 ,000 doses of Blackstar.

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Only. Still sounds like a massive amount of semen.

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It is a lot, but compared to the global demand,

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it was a drop in the bucket. Distributors were

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actively rationing straws. You had to know someone

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or call in a favor just to get a tank full of

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Blackstar. Price skyrocketed. People were paying

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hundreds of dollars per straw in 1992 money just

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to get their hands on his genetics. I just want

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to pause here and reflect on the emotional side

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of this for a second. Imagine Randy Tompkins.

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He's back in Marengo, Iowa. He gets that proof

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sheet in the mail. It probably just looked like

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another piece of junk mail from Select Sires.

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He opens it up and he realizes that his one embryo.

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Gamble the calf he almost didn't get because

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of a bad flush is now the most important animal

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in the entire dairy world. It's the ultimate

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validation, isn't it? He wasn't trying to be

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famous. He wasn't trying to change the industry.

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He was just trying to breed a better cow for

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his own barn. And he accidentally changed the

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world. So we know the numbers on paper were great.

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But what did the cows actually look like? What

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did Black Star physically put in the tank? Because

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numbers on a page are one thing, but living,

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breathing cattle are another entirely. If you

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walked into any barn in the 90s, you could spot

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a Black Star daughter right from the center aisle.

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They just had a distinct look. Describe it for

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us. Paint that picture. It really starts with

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the rib. We talk about spring of rib a lot in

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show judging, but for a commercial, farmer rib

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is strictly synonymous with engine capacity.

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Black Star Daughters had this massive open sweeping

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rib structure. Why does that matter specifically

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for the guy milking them? Because of the rumen.

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The rumen is essentially a giant fermentation

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vat. If you want a cow to make 100 pounds of

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milk, she needs to physically consume a massive

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amount of dry matter, TMR, silage, hay, whatever.

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If she has a flat, tight rib, she physically

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can't fit enough food inside her to support that

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level of milk production without stripping all

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the body weight right off her back. So the rib

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structure directly allows for the intake. Exactly.

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Black star daughters could eat. And because they

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could eat, they held their body condition so

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much better than the frail bell daughters. They

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were incredibly strong. And then you go to the

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udders. The great bill fixer. He completely fixed

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the ligament. He put that deep, strong cleft

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right back into the udder. He pulled the teats

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squarely underneath the quarters where they belong.

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He made udders that stayed high and tight even

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in their fourth or fifth lactation. And that

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physically translates to longevity in the herd.

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And longevity is pure profitability. A cow doesn't

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even start making real profit for the farm until

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her third lactation. If she leaves the herd after

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two, she's at net cost. Black Star daughters

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stayed. They became the old ladies in the barn

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that everyone relied on. Let's look at two specific

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examples from the source material that show just

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how incredibly versatile this bull was. Because

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usually a bull is strictly a production bull

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or strictly a show bull. Black Star did not care

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about those labels. First, let's talk about the

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producer, L .A. Foster Black Star, Lucy. Lucy,

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man, what an absolute beast of a cow. She was

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the world production champion in 1998. Listen

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to this. In a single 365 -day lactation, she

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gave 75 ,275 pounds of milk. 75 ,000 pounds.

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That is so hard to even wrap your head around.

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That's well over 200 pounds of milk a day, every

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single day for a year. That is a biological,

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metabolic outlier. The Foster family said whenever

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you looked for her, she's either at the bunk

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eating or at the trough drinking. That's exactly

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what I mean about the engine capacity. To do

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that, a cow has to be a flawless metabolic machine.

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She has to be able to process that much energy,

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physically converting feed to milk without getting

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sick. Most cows, if you push them even half that

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hard, would immediately get ketosis. Their liver

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would shut down. Or they would pull so much calcium

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out of their own bones to make the milk that

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they would go down with milk fever. Lucy proved

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that Blackstar genetics created a metabolic system

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that was almost bulletproof. But then you have

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the complete other side of the coin. You have

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Stukion Park Black Rose. The absolute queen.

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She was EX96, All -American, Royal Winter Fair

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Champion. She's the absolute epitome of the beautiful

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cow. The kind of cow that literally makes you

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stop walking when you see her enter the show

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ring. But here is the kicker with Black Rose.

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She wasn't just a pretty face standing in deep

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straw. She made 42 ,000 pounds of milk herself.

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Exactly. She proved that Black Star could win

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the biggest banners in the world and still completely

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fill the bulk tank. And that is the universal

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truth of Black Star. He completely bridged the

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gap. He ended the Civil War. You didn't have

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to choose between type and production anymore.

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For the first time, you could actually have both.

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And there is always a bite. But in these kinds

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of stories, when you find something that works

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this perfectly, what does the dairy industry

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immediately do? We use it. We absolutely abuse

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it. We double down on it until we break it. And

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that leads us directly to the ripple effect.

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Yeah. The genetic avalanche. Because Blackstar

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didn't just stay in the barns as milking daughters.

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He became the ultimate sire of sons. The numbers

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here are just as crazy as the production records.

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The industry ended up sampling 2 ,500 of his

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sons. 2 ,500 sons. That represented fully half

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of the entire world's sampling capacity at the

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time. Think about that. For a few years, every

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other bull entering an AI stud, whether it was

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ABS or Select or Alta, was a Black Star son.

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That is an incredible concentration of genetics.

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It's a massive funnel. It is. And it worked beautifully,

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which is actually the core of the problem. If

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his sons had been duds, the line would have naturally

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died out. But the sons were fantastic. You had

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MJR, Blackstar, Emery. He sired a bull called

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Blitz. And Blitz sold 1 .5 million doses? A total

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record. And then Blitz sired Socrates. Socrates

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sired... robust robust sired super sire let's

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stop there for a second super sire if you were

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milking cows today you know super sire he was

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the absolute milk king of the early genomic era

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he basically defined the modern commercial cow

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for a decade and that is a direct unbroken male

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line straight back to blackstar and then you

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have the m total line over in europe right Through

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the damn side, you get in Toto who gives us Pixton

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Shottle. Shottle. I feel like everyone listening

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on a tractor just nodded their head at that name.

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Yeah. Shottle was the bull of the 2000s. He was

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the ultimate satisfaction bull. If you used Shottle,

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if you use Super Sire, if you use Mogul, if you

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use literally any modern elite bull, you're using

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Blackstar. Jeff Ziegler at Select Sires currently

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estimates that 60 % of their current lineup directly

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traces to him. 60 % from that one single embryo

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in Iowa. It's a total genetic avalanche. But

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avalanches can be incredibly dangerous. They

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alter the entire landscape. And they completely

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destroy diversity. They destroy everything in

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their path if you aren't careful. And this brings

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us to the challenge. The ultimate cost of monopolies.

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Because while Black Star was an absolute miracle

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for the farmers struggling in the 90s, he has

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left us with a massive, invisible bill. that

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is coming due right now. A massive bill is right.

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We really need to talk about the inbreeding reality.

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The cautionary tale of this whole deep dive.

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The industry found a sure thing. And just like

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with the stock market or with planting monopulture

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crops, when you go all in on one single thing,

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you create massive vulnerability. Let's look

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at the data on this. We mentioned the 15 .8 %

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relationship to the current population earlier.

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That is higher than elevation. It's higher than

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chief. And in 1999, a researcher named Van Raden

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published a major study. He warned us. He flat

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out said Black Star had the highest expected

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inbreeding of future progeny at 7 .9%. He saw

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this coming almost 30 years ago. But the train

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had already left the station. It was moving way

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too fast to stop. And now today we are facing

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an effective population crisis. Explain that

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term to us. Effective population size. Yeah.

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Because it sounds very academic, but it's actually

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a very scary concept for the breed. Okay, imagine

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a human village. If you have a million people

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living in a city, but they all directly descend

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from just the exact same two families, the actual

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genetic size of that city is very small. That's

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effective population size. For Holsteins, even

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though there are millions and millions of cows

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standing in barns across the U .S., genetically,

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the population size is down to between 40 and

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70 animals. Wait. 40 to 70? Yes. The most numerous

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dairy breed in the entire world is genetically

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the size of a small isolated village. That is,

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honestly, that is terrifying. It is. For wild

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species, anything less than 50 is considered

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critically at risk of extinction. We are dancing

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right on that line with our commercial dairy

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cows. And this directly leads to haplotypes,

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right? Yes. When you severely narrow the gene

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pool, you drastically increase the chance that

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two carriers of a bad recessive gene will mate.

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We call them haplotypes, HH1, HH2, and so on.

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These are genetic defects that cause early embryonic

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death. So the cow gets pregnant, but the embryo

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basically just dies at 40 days. Exactly. To the

00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:29.720
farmer, it just looks like the cow didn't catch.

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She comes back in heat a little late. You think,

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oh, just bad luck, or maybe it was too hot. But

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it's not bad luck. It's genetics. It's the direct

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biological cost of inbreeding. And this obviously

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hits the wall at heart. Absolutely. I'm the farmer

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translator here, so let me translate all this

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science into actual dollars. Inbreeding causes

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what we call inbreeding depression. That means

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fertility drops across the board, embryo loss

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goes up. The immune system is just a little bit

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weaker than it should be. So what does that actually

00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:01.099
cost the farm? Back in 1999 dollars, every 1

00:24:01.099 --> 00:24:04.059
% increase in inbreeding cost about $22 to $24

00:24:04.059 --> 00:24:08.319
in lost lifetime net income per cow. And today?

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What are the current estimates? Today the estimates

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are sitting between $200 and $400 in hidden losses

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per cow. $400 per cow. That's money you don't

00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.039
actively see leaving your bank account. Nobody

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writes a check for inbreeding. It's the cow that

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takes three services to breed instead of one.

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It's the calf that gets pneumonia and just never

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quite catches up to her pen mates. It's the heifer

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that calves in and just doesn't milk the way

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her shiny genomic numbers said she should. That

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is the cost of inbreeding. That is the direct

00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.380
cost of the Black Star avalanche. So we clearly

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have a problem. We have a genetic base that is

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incredibly narrow, largely because we found a

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bull that was just too undeniable good not to

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use. We did it with Bell. We did it with Blackstar.

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And frankly, we are doing it again right now

00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:55.700
with genomics. The inbreeding rate is currently

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rising by plus 0 .4 % every single year. We are

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accelerating our truck right into the wall. It's

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the sure thing versus diversity. It's that constant

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temptation to just use the highest number on

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the list, even if literally everyone else is

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using it too. So the real question is, For the

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guy sitting on the tractor right now listening

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to this, what do they do? You can't just stop

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breeding cows. You can't just quit dairy farming.

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No, you can't. So let's get right into the list

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and takeaways. The real lesson from Marengo.

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Give us the actionable plan here. We call it

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the 30 -93 -65 plan. Okay, break that down for

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us. What do they do right now? Right now, the

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30. When you get off the tractor today, go into

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the office and turn on your computer. Pull your

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herd's inbreeding report. Every modern herd management

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software, has it Dairy Comp, BovaSync, whatever

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you use, looks specifically for the F coefficient.

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What's the magic number they should be looking

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out for? If your herd average is over 8%, you

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are actively losing money. Plain and simple.

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You are firmly in the danger zone where those

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hidden costs, those $400 losses start really

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kicking in. You need to know exactly where your

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herd stands today. Okay, so that's step one.

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What's step two for the next 90 days? The four

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April proofs. The 90. The new sire proofs come

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out in April. Before you buy your semen for the

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year, sit down and pick 8 to 10 completely unrelated

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sires. Unrelated is the key word there. But how

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do you actually find them when the gene pool

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is this small? You have to force yourself to

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look past the top 10 TPI list. Because very often

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the top 10 bulls are all brothers or cousins.

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They literally all come from the exact same flush.

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You have to actively look for outcross sires.

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Look for bulls that don't have super sire or

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mogul anywhere in the first three generations.

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They do exist. They might be a few points lower

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on total TPI, but the heterosis, that hybrid

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vigor you get from using a truly unrelated bull,

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will absolutely more than make up for those few

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lost index points. Make a hard rule for your

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breeding program. Yes. No single bull makes up

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more than 15 % of your total matings. Period.

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Spread your risk out. Do not put all your genetic

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eggs in one basket, even if it's a really, really

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nice looking basket. And what about the long

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term? The 365? The 365 is about mindset. Treat

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your genetic diversity exactly like you treat

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your feed inventory. You wouldn't let your bunker

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run completely empty before you thought about

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ordering more corn. Don't let your herd's genetic

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diversity run out before you try to fix it. Monitor

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it constantly. If you see that inbreeding number

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creeping up year over year, make a hard change.

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Use entirely different bloodlines. Maybe even

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look at a different breed for a crossbreeding

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program if you have to like procross or something.

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But at the very least, within the Holstein breed,

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aggressively find those outcrossed bulls. It's

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really about being intentional rather than just

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going with the flow. It is. It's about realizing

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that the absolute best bull bull on a piece of

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paper isn't always the best bull for your specific

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herd if he happens to be related to every single

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cow you own. You know, I think there is a profound

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philosophical lesson here, too. It directly goes

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back to Randy Tompkins and that initial bad bet

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flush. It really does. We constantly keep chasing

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the sure thing. We want the absolute guarantee.

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But the deep irony of this whole story is that

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Blackstar wasn't a sure thing at all. He was

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a massive gamble. He was an unglamorous working

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cow bred to a solid frame bull. He wasn't the

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result of some massive computer algorithm trying

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to maximize TPI. He was simply the result of

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a farmer trying to breed a cow that could actually

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work in his barn. And I think that brings us

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to the final thought we really want to leave

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people with today. go ahead lay it out somewhere

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in the semen catalog right now maybe it's the

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one literally sitting on the dash of your pickup

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truck there is a bull he's ranked maybe 300th

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on the active tpi list he's cheap he doesn't

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have a glossy full page ad he's completely unglamorous

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just exactly like hannah was just like hannah

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just like blackstar was in the very beginning

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but he's the next one he's the one who will make

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cows that actually last in the herd he's the

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one who brings something structurally different

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to the table and 99 of people are going to flip

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right past his page because his composite numbers

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aren't quite elite enough but he might be the

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exact one who steps in and saves your herd's

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fertility Exactly. History consistently tells

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us that the cheap bulls with the deep, solid

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maternal families often outlast the high -number

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shooting stars. So take a second look at the

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bulls you usually ignore. Look closely at the

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cow families behind them. Look for the Hannahs.

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I just love that. It brings it all right back

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to the emotion and the core of farming. Randy

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Tompkins just wanted to make a good cow better.

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And in the end, when you strip everything else

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away... That's what we're all just trying to

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do. It's the entire job. It's about stewardship.

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It's about leaving the herd and the land better

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than you found it. So we really want to hear

00:29:46.819 --> 00:29:49.380
from you. Take our advice and check your herd's

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numbers. Did you pull that software report? Did

00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:54.519
you find out you were sitting at 10 % inbreeding

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and didn't even know it? Or maybe do you have

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a Black Star story, an old cow that traced back

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to him that fundamentally changed your farm?

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Share it with us. We actively want to hear the

00:30:05.029 --> 00:30:07.690
reality from the barn floor. Tell us about the

00:30:07.690 --> 00:30:09.970
absolute best cow you ever milked. Was she a

00:30:09.970 --> 00:30:12.230
black star daughter? You can find us and share

00:30:12.230 --> 00:30:16.630
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