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Creeping across the pasture land. Got dirt on

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the boots and a working hand. From the milk house

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home to the auction call. These are the folks

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standing strong and tall. Yeah, this is... Welcome

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back to the Bullvine Podcast, where we cut through

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dairy industry noise to get you the insights

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that actually matter for your operation. Today,

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we're doing something a little different. We're

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diving into a profile piece about a Minnesota

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woman named Michelle Schroeder who sold her family's

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dairy herd and found an unexpected and, frankly,

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essential way to stay deeply embedded in the

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industry. Her name is Michelle Schroeder, and

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this story has just some deep layers that will

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resonate with anyone who's ever faced that. brutal

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question of what exactly comes after the cows

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leave. It absolutely does. And I think we need

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to set the emotional context right up front because

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this is where the story, you know, it just hits

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home for so many people listening. Yeah. When

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we talk about a farm transition and specifically

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one where the herd is sold and leaves the property,

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it is never just a business decision made on

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a balance sheet. Oh, not at all. It's an identity

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crisis. It's rolled into profound loss, grief,

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and often this This quiet resentment that you

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don't even talk about. That identity struggle

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is as real as the 4 a .m. alarm, isn't it? It

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really is. I mean, farming isn't a job you clock

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out of. It's the structure. It's the purpose.

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And fundamentally, it's who you are. So when

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that structure is yanked away or those gates

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close for the last time, it leaves this huge

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echoing cavern in that family's life. Michelle

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Schroeder's journey matters right now because

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she walked through that loss, that silence, and

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found something that didn't just replace the

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labor. But it actually amplified her value and

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her knowledge within the industry. And her discovery

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isn't happening in a vacuum. Her decision to

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pivot into professional relief milking and her

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subsequent success are framed by three massive

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pressures facing dairy producers across North

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America right now. For sure. First and foremost,

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we're talking about the chronic labor crisis.

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Exactly. The turnover rate in dairy labor is

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just staggering. We consistently see reports

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citing turnover near 40 % annually in many regions.

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40 %? Think about that. You spend time training

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three people and one of them is gone before you

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can even finish the training cycle. That means

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finding reliable, qualified, professional help

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is not just difficult, it's often nearly impossible.

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And when reliable labor vanishes, that leads

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us directly to the second massive stake. The

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mental health toll on the farm family. It has

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to. When you can't find labor or you can't trust

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the labor you find, guess who covers the 24 -7

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workload? The farmer and their spouse every single

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time. It leads to relentless chronic burnout

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that jeopardizes health, relationships, and eventually

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the viability of the whole farm. That's the critical

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structural gap Michelle stepped into. She didn't

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just find a side gig. She found an industry necessity.

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Absolutely. So our mission today is to explore

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Michelle's journey. From selling the family herd

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and experiencing that deep loss to gaining a

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critical new purpose as an indispensable relief

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milker. Yeah, let's dig in. We're going to trace

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her path from that quiet, early identity as a

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4 -H kid to becoming this incredible industry

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resource. And here's the kicker we need to preview

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for you. This is the part I love. Her children,

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Alex, Aiden, and April, are now winning major

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dairy awards and building phenomenal agricultural

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resumes. But they're doing this not through milking

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their own cows daily, but through what we're

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calling the unconventional classroom, learning

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the ins and outs of dozens of different farms,

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parlors, and management styles across the state.

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That adaptability is the unexpected inheritance

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we're going to unpack. It's a powerful lesson

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in how to manage change. Okay, let's unpack this

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by starting at the very beginning of her agricultural

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identity. So Michelle Damon grew up west of the

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Twin Cities in Minnesota on relatively small

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40 -cow dairy. She was the oldest of four. And

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interestingly, she described her younger self

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as painfully shy. It's a common paradox we see

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in farm life, isn't it? I mean, the barn, the

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animals, the rhythmic routine. It can be the

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most nurturing yet demanding environment for

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a shy kid to find their confidence. Right. The

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cows don't judge you, but they require absolute

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attention and discipline. For Michelle, that

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transformation started in fifth grade around

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1988 when she joined 4 -H. And this detail is

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important. She was a first generation 4 -H member.

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Ah, okay. Her family hadn't been involved before,

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so she didn't have that built -in foundation,

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you know, that generational knowledge of how

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to enter the show ring or complete the projects.

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She had to build that initiative and discipline

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entirely on her own. That takes a specific kind

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of drive. So she starts showing a registered

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Holstein fall calf, and the impact, as you said,

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was just immediate and profound. It really was.

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It wasn't just a slight change. She went from

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being quiet and reserved to outgoing, focused,

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and dedicating herself entirely to agriculture.

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That shift from painful shyness to public confidence

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is a testament to the structure that showing

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and responsibility provide. And that focus solidified

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rapidly through her involvement in FFA, the Minnesota

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Junior Holstein Association. And it led her directly

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into higher education, culminating in a dairy

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science degree from the University of Minnesota

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Twin Cities. A great program. And this is where

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we see the validation of her expertise. To make

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the highly competitive 1997 U of M dairy judging

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team, that is a serious, serious achievement.

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It is. It means you don't just know how to milk

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a cow. You possess the knowledge, the eye for

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confirmation, the genetic understanding, and

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the ability to articulate your reasoning under

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pressure to a panel of experts. That's professional

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validation at the highest level. That judgment

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training, the ability to walk into any barn,

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quickly assess the cattle, and determine their

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value, we need to file that away because it's

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going to be so crucial to her current success.

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She was a professional long before she was an

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owner. And she had already dipped her toe into

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relief work years before, even while she was

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still figuring out her formal path. Right, she

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started relief milking way back in 1992, the

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summer between her first and second years of

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high school. Think about the era, 1992. No cell

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phones, no instant communication, no GPS. Just

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pure trust. Just a landline and a promise. Exactly.

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A farmer had to hand a high school kid the keys,

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explain the routine, and just trust that she

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would show up in the dark, manage potentially

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volatile animals, and get the job done right.

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That reliance speaks volumes about the early

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trust and responsibility she earned and maintained.

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She also points out that she loved routine, the

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rhythm, and the twice -daily check on every single

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animal. But she also notes a key practical benefit

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that shows her professional mindset. She treated

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these relief jobs as, like, professional development.

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She was already thinking that way. She said,

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and I'm paraphrasing, I was part of the dairy

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industry. That's critical. She wasn't just filling

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a labor slot for minimum wage. She was gathering

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knowledge from multiple operations. Every new

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barn was a case study in efficiency, genetics,

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and management style. That early adaptability

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and appetite for diverse knowledge is precisely

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why she can perform her current jobs so well.

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She was trained by the industry, not just by

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one family farm. That adaptability, however,

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was put on the back burner. she married Jason

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Schroeder. And this is where the weight of legacy

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truly comes into focus. Jason had spent three

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decades, 30 years, milking in the family barn.

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That's a multi -generational history. And when

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you marry into that, you take on that weight

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of expectation and routine. It's an overwhelming

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inheritance. So Michelle naturally stopped the

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relief milking to focus entirely on building

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their operation and raising their three children,

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Alex, Aiden, and April. And the reality of the

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modern farm economy set in quickly. Even with

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that generational foundation, they needed off

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-farm income. Michelle worked as a rural property

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appraiser from 2011 up until 2021. And that off

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-farm hustle, combined with the on -farm commitment,

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created that classic, exhausting farm juggle.

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I mean, she'd leave her appraisal job at 5 p

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.m. sharp to pick up the kids while Jason was

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still finishing the evening milking, often not

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wrapping up until 7 .15 p .m. That schedule is

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the definition of passing ships in the night.

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It's just they're both dedicated to the farm

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and the family, but they're constantly running

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a relay race where one parent is always absent

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from the dinner table or the bedtime routine.

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Because they're either at the off -farm job or

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trapped in the barn routine. It's emotionally

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and physically exhausting just tracking that

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timeline. Absolutely. And you realize that schedule

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is unsustainable, especially when the economics

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of dairy start to put the squeeze on. The question

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isn't if something will break, but when. And

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that squeeze, combined with aging infrastructure,

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eventually led to the toughest decision. So by

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2017, Michelle and Jason were trying to navigate

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this impossible situation. Milk prices were at

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rock bottom, and they knew they couldn't continue

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the status quo without making a serious strategic

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shift. What's important here is that they didn't

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immediately surrender. They tried to pivot strategically.

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Their initial plan was actually quite insightful.

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What was it? They planned to build a 3 ,000 headhog

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finishing barn that would provide a crucial steady

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income stream to offset the brutal volatility

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of dairy prices. Okay. And they would keep just

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25 milk cows, a small manageable herd, specifically

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to teach the kids the heritage and the daily

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routine. That sounds like a brilliant balanced

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compromise. It stabilizes the finances with a

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guaranteed market in the hog operation, and it

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honors the dairy legacy by maintaining the educational

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component for the next generation. It was a perfect

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plan. It was a perfect hybrid model for survival.

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But the reality of 2018 just crushed it. The

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market wouldn't cooperate. And milk prices stayed

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miserably low. The futures look absolutely bleak.

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And critical farm infrastructure was crying out

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for major unaffordable investment. That's always

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the tipping point. What were the specific infrastructure

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issues? Because that's so often the final blow.

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Michelle specifically cited two things that needed

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immediate attention. The bulk tank needed to

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be replaced, a huge capital expenditure that

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is non -negotiable for a dairy operation, and

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at least one silo needed to be fixed or replaced.

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When you run the numbers on those critical repairs

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against the backdrop of sustained low prices,

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that capital expenditure just becomes the straw

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that breaks the camel's back. That is the silent

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killer of so many small to medium -sized operations.

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You can grit your teeth and survive low commodity

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prices for a few years if your equipment holds

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up. For a while, yeah. But when a necessary piece

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of equipment fails or reaches end of life like

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a bulk tank or a silo and the market shows no

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sign of recovery, that loan payment is simply

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too big to justify. And as Michelle put it, the

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writing was on the wall. Once you acknowledge

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that writing, you start the grueling, quiet process

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of the emotional exit. This happened in November

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of 2018. And the sources paint such a vivid,

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almost unbearable picture of the final days.

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The cows left in stages. Initially, eight went

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onto a cattle jockey's trailer destined for who

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knows where. Then the main herd, requiring two

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gooseneck loads on consecutive brisk, quiet days,

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was shipped off to a registered Holstein operation

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in South Dakota. Bypassing the local market.

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trying to ensure they went to a place where they

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would still be valued. For nearly two weeks leading

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up to the end, they only milked the final ten

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cows, and she recalls the barn feeling profoundly

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wrong, too quiet, the routine suddenly halting.

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And the night before the very last cows left,

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the entire family, Michelle, Jason, Alex, Aiden,

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and April, gathered in the barn and milked together

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for the final time. That is just an immensely

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powerful image of an ending ritual. The weight

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of that moment is incredible. Michelle admitted

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there were tears, some of us more than others.

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And she had this insightful, almost paradoxical

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observation about why they were crying. I want

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us to linger on this quote because it captures

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the true emotional contradiction of farming.

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It really does, she said. Who would have thought

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that years of working every day without a break,

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the stress of paying bills, dealing with bitter

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cold and extreme heat day in and day out would

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result in tears at the end. Funny, but it did.

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Man, that hits me hard. That single line perfectly

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encapsulates the unspoken emotional toll. You

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spend years wishing for a day off, wishing for

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the stress to end, focusing entirely on the grind.

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Yeah. And when the stress finally lifts, the

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loss of the routine, the loss of the purpose,

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and the loss of that animal connection is so

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overwhelming it brings you to tears. It's the

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grief of losing the life you fought so desperately

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to keep, even if that life was literally killing

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you with exhaustion. It's a complex, shared grief,

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and the children felt it deeply, too. Alex, who

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was nine at the time, took it the hardest. He

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had grown up fully immersed in the herd. And

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April, who was just five, still had that profound

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sense of ritual. She insisted on having one last

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picture taken with the cows before she went to

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school that morning. Wow. Then Jason walked through

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the newly empty barn. He described it as eerie

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cold. Only the cats, confused by the sudden silence

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and lack of activity, remained. You realize you've

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been living in a constant state of warmth, animal

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noise, and purposeful routine, and when that

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silence hits, it is deafening. It is. It's a

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moment that validates the experience of every

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farmer listening who has had to make a similar

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choice, or who is currently lying awake at night

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struggling with the decision to sell. We frame

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this entire story as validation for that struggle.

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Michelle's experience validates the pain, the

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regret, and the tears. But what makes her story

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so instructive is what she did next, proving

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that the knowledge, the passion, and the discipline

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don't just vanish when the milk truck stops coming.

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The transition from despair to purpose begins

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just a few months later, and it starts with a

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simple invitation. The turning point happened

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in April 2019, just five months after the cows

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left. Michelle was attending the Holstein's dispersal

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sale. So she's standing there watching another

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family go through the dismantling of their life's

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work, another scene of genetics scattering across

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the region. And I think standing there watching

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that process, it must have solidified her sense

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of identity as a dairy professional, even if

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she wasn't an owner anymore. Right. She's still

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connected, still grieving with the community.

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And that's when Jackie Rickerman approached her

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and asked a simple question. Would Michelle cover

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their milking that July? They needed a break.

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And this wasn't an easy commitment. The Rickerman's

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farm was a 45 -minute drive away. Michelle immediately

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agreed, but logistics were complicated. Her husband,

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Jason, was going to be away for a work trip,

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so she had to negotiate staying at the Rickerman's

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house and bringing her three children with her.

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That's the definition of dedication. Driving

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45 minutes to work someone else's shift, bringing

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your kids, sleeping in a strange bed all, to

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milk someone else's cows. Jackie Rickerman later

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expressed surprise. Questioning why Michelle,

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a former farm owner who just got out of the daily

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grind, would travel 45 minutes to milk someone

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else's herd. That question highlights how unusual

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this level of commitment was. It wasn't about

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convenience or the easiest paycheck. It was about

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loving the work, wanting to stay connected, and,

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most importantly, demonstrating an unparalleled

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level of reliability that the industry desperately

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needed. And that July job at the Rickerman farm

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was a full -on baptism by fire. She jumps back

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into relief milking, and the farm is in high

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gear. Right. She noted a new calf was born almost

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every day she was there, including a set of twins

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on the final day of her shift. It was intense,

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busy, and demanding. Imagine stepping into that

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situation cold. But this is where the kid's unconventional

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education starts instantly. Alex, who was 10,

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was immediately learning skills that many kids

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don't master until they're teens. What was he

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doing? He was tasked with drawing up and administering

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oxytocin injections right there in the milk vein.

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At 10 years old? At 10. And Aiden, who was six

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and a half, was helping move the fresh kais into

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position. They weren't just observing, they were

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a working crew. And Michelle shared one fantastic

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piece of comic relief from that week. Alex saw

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watering the flowers at the Rickomen farm meant

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watering about five flower pots. I love this

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part. He was apparently very surprised by the

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extensive flower watering required for the farmstead.

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It breaks the tension, but also shows their immediate

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immersion into every aspect of farm management.

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Beyond just the cows. Okay, let's zoom out now

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and analyze this from an industry perspective.

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Because Michelle is not just a dedicated mother

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finding side work, she is filling a critical

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structural void. The labor crisis is multifaceted.

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Beyond the sheer shortage of bodies, there is

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a profound lack of trusted, qualified coverage.

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That's the key word. Trust it. Relief milking

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fills that essential void where farmers desperately

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need professional help to take a break, attend

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vital family events like a daughter's wedding,

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or manage true emergencies like illness, injury,

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or harvest overload. But why does Michelle's

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professional service succeed where, say, calling

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a neighbor often fails? It comes down to professionalism

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and breadth of experience. A neighbor might help

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in a pinch, but they often don't have the time,

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the diverse knowledge of multiple parlor systems,

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or the sustained commitment to quality control

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that Michelle brings. So she's selling reliability

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and expertise. That's it. And the trust factor

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here cannot be overstated. When a farmer hands

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over their barn keys, they are handing over their

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livelihood. They are trusting this individual

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with their genetics, their financial stability,

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the health of their animals. Everything. Everything.

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The Shell's entire business model is built entirely

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on earning and maintaining that trust across

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multiple clients. And let's not ignore the very

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real practical economic motivation. She was very

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open about using the money earned to support

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her family's transition and personal goals. Right.

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For example, she milked nearly every Friday and

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Saturday night during their kitchen remodel in

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the fall of 2020. That paid for the kitchen remodel,

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a family project that created a sense of permanence

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and moving forward after the sale. And she also

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used the money to buy Jason a father's ring for

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Christmas. It was more than just pocket money.

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It was converting her deep, specialized expertise

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into immediate, practical results for her family's

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future and emotional well -being. Yeah, turning

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a professional skill into a family resource.

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But here's the most powerful anecdote about the

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true human impact of her work. The shit and cost

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of no breaks. She shared a story about a neighbor

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whose father was dying of pancreatic cancer.

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This is where relief milking transitions from

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labor coverage to profound human necessity. Michelle

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was covering milking shifts, allowing the family

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to continue with harvest and manage the daily

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chores. But she didn't know the reason why the

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coverage was so critically important at the time.

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She only learned the true, devastating context

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at the funeral. So she realized her presence,

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her reliability in the barn, allowed that family

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to spend precious, uninterrupted time with their

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dying father without the stress of abandoning

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the farm during harvest. They didn't have to

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choose between their father's final days and

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their livelihood. That is an impact that goes

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so far beyond the milk check or the per cow rate.

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It underscores the vital role of this service

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in providing essential human space during a crisis.

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It absolutely does. And it underscores Michelle's

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deep insistence that farmers need breaks for

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their mental health. When you hear a story like

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that, it just drives that point home. Let's talk

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about Jason's perspective on mental health post

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-dairy. Michelle mentioned that one of the things

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that helped Jason immensely was when he joined

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the township board. He needed that mental break

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from the relentless daily stress of dairy farming.

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The routine of milking twice a day for 30 years

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means the stress doesn't just vanish when the

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last cow leaves. Having a separate outlet, A

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non -cow related purpose like civic engagement

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is crucial for recovery. So the role Michelle

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plays isn't just about labor efficiency, it's

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about life efficiency for the community. It's

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a crucial safety net. She's the ultimate resource.

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And what's truly fascinating is how she's leveraged

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this service model into a completely new, incredibly

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effective model for educating the next generation

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of dairy professionals. Okay, here's where it

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gets really interesting and analytically rich.

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Michelle took the closure of their own farm and

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turned it into arguably the most comprehensive,

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diverse, practical dairy education imaginable

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for her children. No single farm, no matter how

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good, could have provided this breadth of experience.

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It's the ultimate multi -farm education model.

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They aren't just learning one set of equipment

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or one specific routine. They're learning how

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to adapt instantly. And she breaks down exactly

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what they learn in each different setting, and

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it's brilliant. Yeah. She says they learn that

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tie stalls, for example, require intense patience

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and attention to individual animal needs. You

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can't rush the routine there. Then they switch

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to a herringbone parlor. and suddenly they have

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to master rhythm, efficiency, and consistency

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across a line of cows. And then maybe they jump

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to a modern parallel parlor, and that requires

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speed, rapid indexing, and total control over

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a quick routine. Or they might work in a 200

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-cow operation, where they are learning efficiency

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and scale management. Why is that diversity so

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crucial? from a farmer's perspective. Because

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a kid who grows up only in a parallel parlor

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might never appreciate the discipline and patience

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required in a ties -full barn or vice versa.

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Michelle's kids get it all. So they learn that

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there isn't just one right way to milk a cow.

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Exactly. There are dozens of right ways, and

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the best dairy professionals can move seamlessly

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between them. That adaptability is the currency

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of the future in agriculture. And while she's

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managing these different systems, she's keeping

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herself and her children grounded in the broader

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industry context. She makes a point of noting

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that she listens to KNUJ AM 860 Farm News and

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Markets from New Ulm while she's milking. Headphones

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on 95 % of the time. That's more than background

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noise. Oh, for sure. She's physically doing the

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work in someone else's barn. But mentally, she's

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still analyzing commodity markets, understanding

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the milk futures and connecting the daily grind

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to the economic forces shaping the industry.

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She's modeling for her kids that a true dairy

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professional is always learning, always analyzing,

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not just executing the physical task. And the

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lessons learned are profoundly practical, often

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demanding initiative and high -level problem

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solving. We have this great anecdote about Alex.

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The scraper story. Yes. At one job, Alex noticed

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that the alley scraper hadn't broken for months.

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It was a chronic problem the farm had just learned

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to live with. And Alex didn't ask permission,

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didn't wait for someone else? Nope. He just grabbed

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a welder and fixed it himself. That is pure professional

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initiative. This is not just relief milking.

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This is recognizing a longstanding business deficiency

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and applying a specific high -level trade skill

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welding to solve a problem that impacts efficiency

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and hygiene. Right. And we hear about Alex, even

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before he was licensed, driving the tractor to

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a relief job. That shows a level of confidence

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and responsibility that is often only built when

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you realize that someone else's operation depends

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entirely on you showing up and solving problems.

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The unexpected lessons are always the most memorable.

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I love this story about Aiden in the parlor.

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Me too. He was six and a half, helping prep cows,

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and he spots a bull in the parlor. And he asks

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his mother, with total seriousness, what's that

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pink thing that keeps coming out under his stomach?

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And Michelle, without skipping a beat, gave him

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the correct anatomical term straight. No sugarcoating,

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no awkward parent explanation. And he just paused.

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His eyes probably widened. And then he went right

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back to prepping cows. That's the real unvarnished

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farm kid education right there. They learn differently

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because the classroom doesn't allow for ambiguity

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or embarrassment. It demands knowledge. And that

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confidence and knowledge gained from varied experience

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doesn't stay confined to the relief barn. No,

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Aiden actually took that initiative and taught

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his friend Jackson how to prep cows in Jackson's

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own family parlor. Wait, in his friend's barn?

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Yes. He was emphasizing that a son should know

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how to do chores on his own farm, demonstrating

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a sense of ownership over the skills he had acquired.

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This is where we have to fundamentally challenge

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the assumption that a child must grow up exclusively

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on their family farm to succeed in agriculture.

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The awards are the hard proof of this unconventional

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classroom success. Both Alex and Aiden have won

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the Nicollet County Holstein Association Outstanding

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Junior Boy Award. Winning that award is a massive

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achievement for any child in a prominent farming

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family, showing leadership, commitment, and skill.

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But to win it when you don't milk your own cows

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daily, that absolutely defies tradition. It proves

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that the quality of education, the exposure,

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the professional responsibility, the constant

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handling of many different types of cattle trumps,

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the quantity of time spent in a single family

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-owned barn. They have built exceptional diversified

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resumes using borrowed infrastructure and their

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mother's network. And this commitment leads to

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incredibly stressful yet illustrative moments.

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Think about World Dairy Expo in 2025. Alex is

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competing in Madison 300 miles away, showing

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his air shirt cow. And Michelle, however, is

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relief, milking in a stranger's barn, unable

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to attend. The image of the modern dairy mom.

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Standing in the living room of her client's farmhouse,

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watching the live stream of the show, balancing

00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.000
the milking schedule with her son's high -stakes

00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.039
competition. And she couldn't help but coach

00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.769
him from afar. Standing on the coffee table yelling

00:26:21.769 --> 00:26:25.029
at the TV, she recounts screaming, stop overworking

00:26:25.029 --> 00:26:27.150
her. I can just picture it. That is the perfect

00:26:27.150 --> 00:26:29.950
visceral image of a dairy mom. Even when she's

00:26:29.950 --> 00:26:32.470
not physically present, she's emotionally, analytically,

00:26:32.549 --> 00:26:35.190
and physically invested in that moment. And when

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Alex placed 12th, competing against the eventual

00:26:37.890 --> 00:26:40.890
grand champion, Michelle's reaction was classic

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farmer relief. I'm glad I wasn't there. It was

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done. I didn't have a long drive back home, and

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I saw what I needed to see. She got the satisfaction

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of the competitive outcome without the high stress

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of the travel and the intense show ring atmosphere.

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Yeah. And we should note the scope of their ownership.

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The three children collectively own 15 animals,

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plus Alex's independent three -in -one partnership.

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The family operation may have sold, but the passion

00:27:06.069 --> 00:27:08.410
and the genetics are being kept alive. Their

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classroom may be unconventional, their barn may

00:27:10.690 --> 00:27:13.369
be temporary, but the results are undeniable.

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Their learning discipline, initiative, advanced

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animal science, and business management all wrapped

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into one traveling education. That adaptability

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is the ultimate legacy. This brings us to the

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evolution of the farmer role itself. Michelle

00:27:26.630 --> 00:27:29.369
Schroeder embodies a new, critical figure in

00:27:29.369 --> 00:27:32.529
modern agriculture, the professional, non -milking

00:27:32.529 --> 00:27:35.369
dairy farmer. She is selling time and expertise,

00:27:35.509 --> 00:27:38.650
not a commodity. She's there for the ordinary

00:27:38.650 --> 00:27:40.769
emergencies, as she calls them. The daughter's

00:27:40.769 --> 00:27:43.309
wedding, the late harvest, the funerals, the

00:27:43.309 --> 00:27:45.890
mental health breaks. She proves that sometimes

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the most important figures supporting the dairy

00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:50.569
community are the ones who provide the essential,

00:27:50.670 --> 00:27:53.150
highly specialized service that keeps the cow

00:27:53.150 --> 00:27:56.410
owners afloat and sane. And we need to look at

00:27:56.410 --> 00:27:59.470
Jason's parallel transition. After 30 years in

00:27:59.470 --> 00:28:01.849
the family barn, grinding away at the routine,

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He was ready to be done when the last cow left.

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And while Michelle jumped back in via relief

00:28:07.329 --> 00:28:10.509
work, Jason needed a clean break from the daily

00:28:10.509 --> 00:28:13.549
labor. That's a common and completely understandable

00:28:13.549 --> 00:28:16.109
reaction for a family that's endured that three

00:28:16.109 --> 00:28:18.109
-decade grind of ownership and responsibility.

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He channeled his deep practical experience not

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into physical labor, but into pedagogy. Right.

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He became a farm business management instructor

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at South Central College. So the knowledge is

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still being passed on, but through a different

00:28:30.069 --> 00:28:32.660
institutional channel. He is now teaching the

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next generation how to run the numbers, how to

00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.400
pivot, and how to survive the economic realities

00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:39.940
that ultimately forced their own hand. It's a

00:28:39.940 --> 00:28:42.559
fantastic way to honor his experience without

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returning to the 7 .15 p .m. finish time. And

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.539
the family legacy is adapting rather than ending.

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They are still tied deeply to the land. They're

00:28:51.619 --> 00:28:54.039
planning the sesquicentennial celebration of

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their farm set for around 2030. That's 150 years

00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:01.460
since the land entered the family. Yes. They're

00:29:01.460 --> 00:29:03.380
even planning a breakfast on the farm celebration.

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That is a profound commitment to heritage and

00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.279
community identity. It proves that legacy isn't

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strictly defined by the contents of the bulk

00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.299
tank, but by the connection to the land and the

00:29:14.299 --> 00:29:16.579
community that sustained them. Exactly. They

00:29:16.579 --> 00:29:19.839
can celebrate 150 years of family farming, even

00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.579
if the cows left a few years shy of that milestone.

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And the kids are looking forward with incredible

00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:28.099
clarity about their professional dreams. April

00:29:28.099 --> 00:29:30.460
dreams of veterinary medicine. Alex is talking

00:29:30.460 --> 00:29:33.000
about starting a cattle boarding business, utilizing

00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.299
that diversity of barn experience he's gained.

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And Aiden, smartly, watches his options carefully.

00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.279
Michelle's conviction about their future is powerful.

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The sky's the limit for these kids. She believes

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this because they started building their professional

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resumes early, working both on their home farm

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and critically on dozens of others. They are

00:29:52.829 --> 00:29:54.829
not waiting for college to define them. They

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are actively preparing for dynamic, specialized

00:29:57.170 --> 00:30:00.410
agricultural careers that require broad knowledge.

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But as with Michelle's life, change is constant.

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In February 2025, she actually accepted a significant

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new part -time position as the district outreach

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representative for Congressman Brad Finstadt.

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That's a huge pivot again, demonstrating that

00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:18.529
her core skill set, her ability to connect with

00:30:18.529 --> 00:30:20.849
farmers, her reliability, and her deep, intimate

00:30:20.849 --> 00:30:22.990
knowledge of the agricultural community's struggles

00:30:22.990 --> 00:30:26.089
is transferable directly into the political and

00:30:26.089 --> 00:30:28.190
policy sphere. She knows the pressure points

00:30:28.190 --> 00:30:29.869
of the dairy industry because she lives them

00:30:29.869 --> 00:30:32.619
every time she steps into a client's barn. So

00:30:32.619 --> 00:30:34.640
we have to wonder how this new role influences

00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.359
her availability. It definitely forces limitations.

00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.160
She's had to limit her availability for new relief

00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.119
milking clients, so she's wisely keeping those

00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:44.119
relationships strong with her longtime clients.

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She knows where her roots are. And that her professional

00:30:46.299 --> 00:30:49.319
credibility rests on maintaining those vital

00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.079
connections to the people she represents. It's

00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.359
a perfect symbiosis. Her policy work informs

00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.279
her milking. Her milking informs her policy work.

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Before we move to our final takeaways, we have

00:31:01.509 --> 00:31:04.190
to share Michelle's final wisdom for those facing

00:31:04.190 --> 00:31:07.170
the exact path she just walked, the family that

00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:09.650
just sold their herd and feels utterly lost.

00:31:09.970 --> 00:31:12.589
She has two incredibly important pieces of advice.

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The first one is pure heart, and it's often ignored

00:31:15.109 --> 00:31:17.420
by those in transition. Oops, sorry. She says,

00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.440
take some time to reconnect with your spouse

00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.299
and family. You've just spent years milking cows

00:31:22.299 --> 00:31:25.420
twice a day, every single day. The cows are gone,

00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.400
but the people who stood by you are still there.

00:31:27.779 --> 00:31:29.740
There's no better way to thank them than the

00:31:29.740 --> 00:31:32.299
gift of your time. That is such crucial advice.

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When you sell, the last thing you want is for

00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:37.480
the farm closure to turn into a family crisis

00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.640
because you're still running on that high -stress

00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.519
treadmill. emotionally unavailable you need to

00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:44.599
reset the clock and then she gives the harder

00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:46.680
more practical truth which shows her forward

00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.920
thinking professional mindset have a plan right

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saying i'm resting after selling the cows can

00:31:52.980 --> 00:31:56.819
only be done for so long everyone needs something

00:31:56.819 --> 00:31:59.859
to do in life a purpose an activity a plan you

00:31:59.859 --> 00:32:03.339
can't replace the 4 50 a .m alarm the cows and

00:32:03.339 --> 00:32:06.579
the 7 15 p .m finish time with nothing that void

00:32:06.579 --> 00:32:09.400
will consume you you need structure and purpose

00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.339
and michelle found hers in serving the very industry

00:32:13.339 --> 00:32:16.279
she thought she had left she truly embodies the

00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.539
evolution of the dedicated dairy professional

00:32:18.539 --> 00:32:21.779
she's there often in capris old tennis shoes

00:32:21.779 --> 00:32:24.440
and a heart rock cafe visor in the dark hours

00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.000
of the morning keeping other people's dreams

00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.369
alive that is the definition of quiet essential

00:32:29.369 --> 00:32:31.869
impact on the modern farm landscape. All right,

00:32:31.869 --> 00:32:33.369
so someone's listening to this on their way to

00:32:33.369 --> 00:32:35.529
evening milking. Maybe they're feeling that exhaustion

00:32:35.529 --> 00:32:37.750
deep in their bones or they're struggling with

00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:40.130
the pressure of a tough decision. What should

00:32:40.130 --> 00:32:42.309
stick with them immediately from Michelle's incredible

00:32:42.309 --> 00:32:45.549
story? My first takeaway is an immediate reflection

00:32:45.549 --> 00:32:48.170
point, and it relates directly to mental health

00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:50.150
and the future of your operation. When's the

00:32:50.150 --> 00:32:51.789
last time you took a real guilt -free break?

00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.880
Not an hour, not a single morning, but a genuine

00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.339
48 or 72 hour period of rest. If you don't have

00:32:59.339 --> 00:33:02.240
an answer, you need to stop viewing relief milking

00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.359
as an extravagant luxury and recognize it as

00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.660
a core necessity for the sustainability of your

00:33:07.660 --> 00:33:09.559
farm and your family's mental health. It's a

00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.900
necessity, not a luxury. That's excellent. My

00:33:13.900 --> 00:33:16.059
second takeaway is for anyone who has already

00:33:16.059 --> 00:33:18.880
transitioned out or is considering it, the medium

00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.759
term lesson. If you're a former dairy farmer,

00:33:22.059 --> 00:33:24.359
or transitioning out of ownership, could your

00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.640
deep specialized skills fill a vital labor gap

00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.720
like Michelle's in your local community? Yeah.

00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.400
That expertise in animal care, milking protocol,

00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.359
and diverse parlor systems is incredibly valuable.

00:33:35.539 --> 00:33:37.599
It doesn't die when you sell the cows. Exactly.

00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.579
Yeah. You are uniquely positioned to professionalize

00:33:40.579 --> 00:33:42.960
this service and solve the labor crisis for your

00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.400
neighbors while finding purpose after the herd

00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.519
is gone. Absolutely. And the long -term lesson

00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.420
for those raising the next generation is about

00:33:49.420 --> 00:34:14.619
preparation and the unconventional class. Adeptibility

00:34:14.619 --> 00:34:17.300
is the key word. Michelle Schroeder's life is

00:34:17.300 --> 00:34:20.039
a masterclass in adaptation, showing us that

00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.119
the end of one chapter is simply the beginning

00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.599
of a far more essential one. Her story proves

00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.139
there's life after dairy cows, and sometimes

00:34:27.139 --> 00:34:28.980
it keeps you closer to the industry than you'd

00:34:28.980 --> 00:34:31.300
expect. This has been another Bullvine Podcast.

00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:33.679
For the full feature article with photos of the

00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.059
Schroeder family in action, including Alex on

00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:38.739
the show floor and Aiden helping prep cows, head

00:34:38.739 --> 00:34:42.320
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00:34:47.489 --> 00:34:49.809
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