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Breaking free from the chains of the past Where

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truth moves faster than a Holstein calf No law

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waiting on some printed page We're charting new

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ground in the digital age From genomic codes

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to robot facts We cut through the noise, no hold

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them back not your daddy's dairy news tonight

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we're sparking Welcome back to the Bullvine Podcast,

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where we cut through dairy industry noise to

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get you the insights that actually matter for

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your operation. And today, oh boy, we're diving

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deep into a feature piece that's been generating

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some serious buzz. It's all about beef on dairy

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or BXD programs. This one's got layers and some

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surprising financial analysis that's really going

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to make farmers rethink how they've been approaching

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crossbreeding for premium market access. That's

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right. And the context here is just, well, it's

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crucial right now. We are seeing market reports

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confirm what we all feel in the barns and, frankly,

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in the sale ring. Those price spreads between

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straight Holsteins and quality beef dairy crosses,

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they've widened considerably, especially across

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the Midwest. Oh, yeah. Everyone is chasing that

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premium. Absolutely. And the demand from packers

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for consistent, high -quality BXD product, it's

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higher than it's been in years. Exactly. The

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potential money is clearly there. But look, this

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is where the source material we looked at gets

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kind of provocative. The critical question it

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raises is this. Why are so many operations failing

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to capture the full profit potential even with

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these attractive market premiums? And the answer,

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well, it fundamentally challenges that basic

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ingrained assumption in dairy farming that lowest

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input cost automatically guarantees the highest

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net profit. It's just not that simple. That's

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the core of the dilemma, isn't it? We're going

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to unpack what we're calling the beef on dairy

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profit paradox. It's this counterintuitive idea

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that operations spending the most per calf are

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often actually generating the highest net returns,

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not just the highest gross, the highest net.

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We'll show you the specific data points that

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back this finding up. We'll look at why that

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low -cost philosophy is, well, actively sabotaging

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performance, and critically, how you can avoid

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those pitfalls. So if you are participating in

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BXD or even just thinking about starting, you

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really need to hear the specific details on consistency,

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genetics, and timing we're about to cover. Yeah,

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stick around for this one. It's important stuff.

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Okay, let's unpack this paradox. Let's really

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identify the central failure point here. A lot

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of operations, they jumped into BXD with a fundamentally

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low -cost philosophy. almost treating it like

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a side hustle. Right. They treated the resulting

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beef crosses like, I don't know, slightly different

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Holstein calves. Yeah, maybe a bit beefier, but

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handled the same. Exactly. So that means using

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standard, sometimes repurposed feeding programs,

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standard calf management protocols too. Maybe

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worst of all, choosing lower cost beef genetics.

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Maybe just using whatever sire was closest or,

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you know, the cheapest semen available. Look,

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that low cost mindset is totally understandable.

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I get it. When you're looking at input margins,

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especially with milk prices, every penny saved

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seems like a penny earned. But the source material

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we dug into notes that this approach is based

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on a misunderstanding of what actually drives

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the premium. It kind of assumes the premium is

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automatic just because the calf has some beef

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blood in it. Like magic. It is definitely not

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automatic. And the data here is, well, it's pretty

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brutal. These low cost operations, they capture

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only a tiny fraction of the quality premiums

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that are out there. The cattle just don't grade

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out. They're not hitting that high choice or

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prime range necessary for the big payoff. The

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result is that their net benefit after you account

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for the increased labor. The semen cost, maybe

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some slight management adjustments. It's often

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barely positive. Hold on. Let me just translate

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that into, you know, farm level economics for

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a second. Yeah. We are talking about the difference

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between maybe making, say. $40 net per calf on

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a marginal low -cost BXD program versus the $200

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to even $250 net per calf that these optimized

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systems are currently capturing. That's a huge

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difference. Massive. So if you're going through

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all the hassle of breeding beef, the separate

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ID, the marketing challenges, maybe different

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housing, and your net return is only marginally

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better than sticking with straight Holsteins

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and just selling a bobcalf, what's the actual

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point of all that extra effort? You've risked

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your replacement heifer pool. maybe use semen

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on cows that should have stayed dairy, all for

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a fragile, low -margin side business. It doesn't

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make sense. It doesn't. And that fragility you

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mentioned, that's what limits scalability too.

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If your net return is marginal, you simply cannot

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commit significant capital or labor to expanding

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the program. The ROI just isn't reliable. Right.

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The source material noted that small and mid

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-sized operations relying purely on cost cutting,

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they miss the opportunity for reliable, substantial,

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positive returns. Returns that are being reliably

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captured by their neighbors, making what the

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source called... Measured steps. Measured steps.

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OK, what does that mean exactly? We're talking

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huge tech investments? Not necessarily. Measured

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steps, as they defined it, means they aren't

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always investing in the most expensive, shiny

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new technology. But they are focused intensely

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on consistency. Wow, consistency. OK. Better

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nutrition right from day one. Good. Utilizing

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proven performance track genetics, not just any

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beef bowl, and implementing basic systematic

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tracking, knowing what works and what doesn't

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in their own system. OK, so that's the difference

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then. It's the difference between just sort of

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hoping the market stays high enough to float

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a lower quality animal and building a system

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that reliably produces a premium grading animal

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almost regardless of minor market fluctuations.

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You're building resilience. Precisely. Building

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a system, not just chasing a premium. Now, this

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leads us straight into what the research highlights

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as the, well. the true hidden killer of performance.

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And it's not just about cheap genetics, although

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that's part of it. It's a total lack of consistency

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in the calf's early life nutrition. OK, hold

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on. We always focus on feed costs, right? How

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much per ton? Yeah, that's the first number everyone

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looks at. But the research in this feature piece

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shows feed quality consistency matters far, far

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more, especially right now when corn and other

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major inputs are, relatively speaking, affordable.

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I have to push back just a little bit on this,

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though. I mean, most farmers I know, they use

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established nutritionists. We mix rations based

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on standard protein and energy content derived

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from feed assays. So what does consistency really

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mean here, beyond hitting those basic nutritional

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targets on paper? Are we just talking about like

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day to day mixing variation? Is that it? That's

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definitely part of it, Jake. Yeah. Mixing errors

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happen. But the deeper dive here shows the inconsistency

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often starts way earlier at the ingredient level

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itself. Look at the specific example they really

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hammered on. Molasses. OK, yeah. Staple ingredient,

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palatability energy binder. Right. And most farmers,

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let's be honest, buy the cheapest bulk molasses

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they can find. Makes sense on the surface. Standard

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practice. But the research cited in the source

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material, it revealed that the total sugar content

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in generic unbranded cane molasses can vary.

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Well, wildly. They documented a range from a

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low of thirty nine point two percent total sugars

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all the way up to a whopping sixty seven point

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three percent in samples taken just across the

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Midwest. Oh, wait. Thirty nine percent to six.

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67%. Yeah. That's not variability. That's like

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there's two completely different products being

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sold into the same name. Exactly. How are you

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supposed to manage delicate rumen development

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in a young calf when the key energy input is

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swinging that wildly batch to batch? You can't.

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And that kind of huge, unexpected swing in sugar

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and likely minerals, too, it just sabotages performance.

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The study they cited showed that this inconsistency

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in feed quality, these sudden drops or spikes

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in key ingredients like sugar, it has been shown

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in controlled calf studies to reduce calf starter

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intake by up to 18%. 18%. An 18 % reduction in

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starter intake. So think about that. You just

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invested maybe, say, $100 in high -performance

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beef semen. And you've basically sabotaged the

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expression of that genetic potential before the

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calf is even 60 days old. Yeah. All because your

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cheap molasses wasn't. consistent week to week.

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Wow. But here's what they're not telling you,

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right? And this is the crucial biological nuance,

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I think. This isn't just a palatability problem

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where the calf maybe doesn't like to taste one

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day. It's deeper. Much deeper. The inconsistent

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quality fundamentally alters those crucial early

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rumen fermentation patterns. And, critically,

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the volatile fatty acid. VFA production. Exactly.

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Let's get technical just for a moment because

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this really is the root of this whole profit

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paradox. VFAs, they're the primary energy source

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for ruminants, right? And the mix of those VFAs

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matters enormously for development. Right. Acetate,

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propionate, butyrate. And specifically, quality

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controlled consistent molasses increases butyrate

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production. Now, why is butyrate so critical

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in those first two months of life? Butyrate,

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yeah. Because butyrate is the key signal. molecule,

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the main driver for the development of the rumen

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papillae. Bingo. Think of papillae like little

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fingers or like the shag carpet lining the rumen

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wall. Good analogy. A calf needs those papillae

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to grow long, thick, and fully functional so

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they can absorb nutrients efficiently later on,

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especially when they transition fully to solid

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feed. So if the starter intake is inconsistent

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because your molasses quality is all over the

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place, the butyrate signal is weak or erratic.

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The papillae don't develop fully. Yeah. And that

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calf is now essentially permanently hobbled in

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terms of its future feed efficiency potential.

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Precisely. You are literally losing future feed

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efficiency and conversion rate that should happen

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way down the line in the finishing lot. The high

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-end beef genetics you paid good money for, they

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simply cannot express their superior gain potential

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if the basic rumen infrastructure, the absorption

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surface area is underdeveloped from the start.

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Which means? That calf is going to cost more

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to finish, take longer, and is less likely to

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grade high choice, or prime, double whammy. And

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this, I suppose, is where the quality feed companies,

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like callback feeds that was mentioned in the

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source material, this is where they earn their

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money. Absolutely. They maintain strict specifications.

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We're talking guaranteed minimum coal sugars,

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controlled mineral levels, maybe ash content,

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and highly consistent BRICS readings batch after

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batch. Right. And for those maybe unfamiliar,

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a Brix reading, it's essentially a measure of

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the soluble solids content, which is largely

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sugar, in the molasses. It's a quick check for

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consistency. Consistent Brex readings ensure

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consistent energy delivery. So by paying a bit

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more for a guaranteed specification, you are

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essentially paying for reliability. Predictability.

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Exactly. And that reliability translates directly

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into stable room and development and predictable

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starter intake during the most critical growth

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phase. Okay. Okay. Let's translate this back

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into farmer language then. Mixing your own rations

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or always buying the cheapest bulk ingredient,

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it seems cost effective on the invoice. On paper,

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yeah. But when you actually factor in the hidden

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costs, things like storage losses, your labor,

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mixer wagon maintenance, the occasional bad batch

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that throws a whole pen off feed. Yeah. And most

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critically, that potentially lost performance

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due to an 18 % starter intake drop in that key

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early development phase. Yeah. The investment

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in consistent, quality -controlled calf feed,

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even if it's a few dollars more per bag, it can

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likely be recouped pretty easily through just

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10 -15 % improvements in feed efficiency down

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the road. Or better grading. Or better grading,

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exactly. You are literally buying a more reliable,

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more valuable final product by starting right.

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Okay, so that consistency argument, it moves

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us squarely into the realm of strategic investment,

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doesn't it? Because that $50 you thought you

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saved on cheap molasses might have just cost

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you $200, maybe more, in lost carcass value later

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on. Right. Pennywise, pound foolish, as they

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say. Exactly. The source material makes it clear.

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The most profitable farms are not the ones cutting

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corners everywhere. They are the ones with, and

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I'm quoting here, comprehensive data systems,

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precision feeding, and systematic breeding strategies.

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Okay, but here's the rub. How does a typical

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operation, maybe not a mega dairy, justify that

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kind of upfront cost? It sounds expensive. It

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can be, but the source material is actually compelling

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here because it focuses on investments that can

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pay for themselves relatively quickly. It's not

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all about massive capital outlay. Take genomic

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testing for your dairy herd, for example. Okay.

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Standard practice for many now, but how does

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it fit BXD strategy? We're talking maybe a $50

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per head genomic testing cost for your best cows

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or maybe even just the heifers. That investment,

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the data shows, typically pays for itself within

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the first calf crop generated after testing.

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Within the first calf crop. How? Because it's

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foundational work. It gives you certainty, takes

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out the guesswork. You identify with high reliability

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your top performing cows or heifers, the ones

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with superior genetics for health, fertility,

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production traits. Those get bred to a... Okay,

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makes sense. Maximize genetic gain where it counts

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for the dairy. Exactly. But just as crucially,

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you reliably identify the lower -end cows or

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heifers. Those with mediocre genetics, maybe

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some minor recurring health issues, the ones

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you don't want replacements from, those animals

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should be instantly and confidently bred to high

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-quality, high carcass value beef semen. Okay,

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so it eliminates guessing. It minimizes wasted,

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expensive beef semen on cows that really should

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have produced a replacement heifer. Right. And

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it optimizes your future heifer inventory, potentially

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letting you keep fewer, better replacements.

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Precisely. You spend $50 on a test to make a

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far better, maybe $250 or $300 breeding decision

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with much higher confidence. It's not just about

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one decision either, is it? It's a commitment

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to building a more reliable system overall. That's

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the key. Strategic investment like this allows

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operations to see real grade improvements, meaning

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significantly more choice and prime carcasses

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coming out of the feedlot. Improvements of maybe

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20, 30 percent over a three year period, according

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to the analysis. Wow. 20, 30 percent increase

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in quality grades. That's significant money.

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Huge. And that kind of improvement positions

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them for guaranteed success, even when the current

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really high scarcity premiums inevitably soften

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a bit. Because they've built a reputation, a

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track record, for consistent quality that packers

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will continue to pay a premium for long term.

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They become preferred suppliers. Right. And here's

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a really critical point from the research that's

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often missed, I think. The nutrition upgrade

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focusing on that consistency we talked about

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really must apply to all calves on the dairy.

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not just the beef crosses. Ah, okay. Not running

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two separate programs? No. The source material

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really emphasizes that upgrading the entire calf

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program creates the stable, high -performance

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environment necessary for those expensive beef

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genetics to actually express themselves optimally.

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Right. You need a consistently high plane of

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nutrition for everything. You don't want to try

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and manage two separate tiered calf programs.

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You manage one excellent calf program, period.

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That makes sense. And farmers should absolutely

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check out resources from their state. extension

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services, too. Things like the Beef Quality Assurance

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Program, BQA. Good point. A lot of those resources

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are free and can really help standardize protocols

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and audit processes to ensure that consistency.

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Okay. This logically moves us from the investment

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decision itself to the strategic timeline. And

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this is where the math gets really unforgiving

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in cattle production, isn't it? Because of that

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biological lag involved. Yeah. You can't speed

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up gestation or growth rates much. Biology sets

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the pace. Exactly. Success in the BXD space,

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real success. It's built over a deliberate 24

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to 36 month timeline. It does not happen overnight.

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And you have to be strategic about the phases

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within that timeline, right? You can't just jump

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in and expect top results immediately. Precisely.

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The source material laid out a kind of roadmap.

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Phase one is foundation building. That's roughly

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the first six months. Okay, what's in that phase?

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That's doing the genomic testing we just talked

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about. Selecting those proven beef sires with

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high carcass value EPDs, not just calving ease.

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And critically, auditing and upgrading that calf

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nutrition consistency. Getting the molasses right.

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Getting the starter right. Got it. Laying the

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groundwork. Then comes phase two. Scaling what

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works. That's maybe the next 12 months. Here,

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you gradually increase the percentage of the

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herd bred to beef. But based on reliable data

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and confidence gained from phase one, you know

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your system can handle it. Makes sense. Don't

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go all in until you've proven the basics. And

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finally, phase three is optimization. That could

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be another 12 months or ongoing. This is where

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you're refining your protocols based on actual

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feedlot performance data and packer feedback

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from those first groups of calves, fine -tuning

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the system. Wait, wait, can we just pause on

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that biological lag again for a second? Because

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this is so critical. Yeah, please do. This is

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what makes inaction today so incredibly expensive

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down the road. If you're sitting there listening,

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maybe on the fence today, debating whether to

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spend that $50 on genomic testing or upgrade

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to that quality -controlled starter feed, remember

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this. The breeding decisions you make today,

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right now, they create the calves that will actually

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hit the market ready for harvest in late 2027.

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Scary thought, isn't it? It is. So if you delay

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implementing these quality controls or wait to

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select better genetics, you are... actively guaranteeing

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that you will miss the window for maximum premium

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potential two years from now. The train might

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have already left the station. It's a powerful

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point. The market opportunity is definitely dynamic.

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Now, OK, the very earliest adoption advantages,

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those first mover processor relationships established

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maybe five, six years ago. Yeah, those are probably

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gone. Right. The low hanging fruit. But the opportunity

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is still immense. Regional processors are still

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actively right now seeking consistent suppliers

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who can meet quality specifications reliably

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week after week. They crave predictability. They

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absolutely crave predictable product, which means

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you have to build a predictable system now to

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supply it. And building that system, it requires

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acknowledging that, you know, regional challenges

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really dictate different management strategies,

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too. The BXD opportunity plays out very differently

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depending on where your farm is located. Yeah,

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let's definitely touch on those regional differences.

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Let's start in the heart of dairy, the Midwest,

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Wisconsin, Minnesota. Processor density there

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is generally a huge advantage, right? You often

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have multiple marketing options, which gives

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you some leverage. True. But the big challenge

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there is the weather, specifically the extreme

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cold in winter. Crossbred calves, especially

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depending on the beef breed used, might require

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different management in the cold than straight

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Holsteins, which tend to tolerate a wider temperature

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range. How so? What kind of adjustments? Well,

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you really have to budget for winter housing

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adjustments. We're potentially talking about

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needing extra bedding for greater nesting scores

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in calf hutches or barns. Critical draft protection

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becomes even more important. Holsteins often

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run a bit hotter metabolically than some beef

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crosses. For crossbreds, you might need to adjust

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your calf jacket protocols. Maybe keeping them

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on longer? or using heavier grades depending

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on the breed, and perhaps even investing in some

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building modifications like better windbreaks

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or improved air exchange controls in those early

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calf facilities. It's all about mitigating respiratory

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risk associated with cold stress and drafts.

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So not huge costs necessarily, but they are necessary

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strategic investments to protect the expensive

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genetics you just paid for. You don't want to

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lose them to pneumonia. Exactly. Pennywise, pound

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foolish you get if you skip there. Okay, let's

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move out east. Pennsylvania, New York, different

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picture there, right? Generally fewer processors,

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less density. Yeah, much less density. Which

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means those individualized relationships with

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structured, source -verified programs become

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absolutely crucial. Things like National Beef's

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Angus Link program or Tyson's Progressive Beef.

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You need to consistently meet their specific,

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often rigorous requirements to secure stable

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pricing. Which implies rigorous documentation

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and tracking on the farm. Absolutely. And environmentally,

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the challenge out east shifts from extreme cold

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to often those really muggy, humid summers. Right.

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Bad for respiratory health. Can be brutal. That

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high humidity significantly increases respiratory

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challenges in all cabs, but maybe especially

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in certain crosses. Some of the Black Angus crosses,

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for example, can be less heat tolerant than Holstein's.

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So what's the management adaptation there? Producers

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really need to factor in enhanced summer health

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protocols, maybe more aggressive fly control,

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which carries disease, certainly excellent ventilation

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to manage heat and humidity stress, especially

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during that critical first 60 days. So again,

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it's an investment in labor, maybe preventative

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medicine, maybe facility upgrades for airflow?

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Correct. Different climate, different necessary

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investments. Okay, then let's look west. California,

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Idaho, big dairy states. Big advantage there

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is often the year -round feeding conditions.

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Generally more moderate climate, which is a major

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plus for consistent growth and getting cattle

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to market weight efficiently. Less environmental

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stress. Right. The challenge out west, though,

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is often scale. Some of the major processors

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there require just serious volume to even get

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in the door with a supply agreement. Which can

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sometimes lock out smaller, more specialized

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dairy operations from direct packer access. It

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can. However, the flip side is the advantage

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of proximity to major Western feedlots, huge

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efficient feedlots. That offers different marketing

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options beyond just selling direct to the packing

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plant. You can potentially sell uniform truckloads

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of high quality feeder calves directly into these

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large scale finishing operations. So a different

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economic model potentially, but still heavily

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reliant on producing consistent high -quality

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calves that those feedlots want. Quality always

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matters. And the common management caveat, really

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across all regions that came through in the source

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material, is this. Crossbred calves, regardless

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of breed, may respond differently to your standard

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Holstein health and nutrition protocols, especially

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during that critical first 60 days. Which translates

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directly to potentially increased labor, more

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vigilance, and maybe different treatment strategies

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needed. It's not just business as usual. Nope.

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Definitely requires adaptation. Okay, that brings

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us back maybe to the biggest challenge a producer

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faces, especially a mid -sized one. Let's say

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a 200 -cow operator listening right now. Is it

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really realistic for them to invest in these

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comprehensive data systems that the source material

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claims are required for top tier success? Isn't

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that advice just for the 5 ,000 cow mega dairies?

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That's a really great question, because if the

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answer is yes, only for mega dairies, then this

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whole high premium BXD thing becomes inaccessible

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to the vast majority of producers. But the source

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material actually emphasizes that comprehensive

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data system doesn't necessarily mean you have

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to go out and build some expensive proprietary.

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database from scratch it means using the tools

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that are available strategically leveraging what's

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out there okay so what are those strategic tools

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for say that smaller operator under 200 cows

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for a smaller operator the key phrase from the

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analysis was partnering for expertise focus on

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excellence and the basics consistency over complexity

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and leverage external resources effectively Like

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what? That means maybe utilizing cooperative

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nutritionists who manage feed consistency protocols

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for multiple farms, using readily available third

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-party tracking apps on a phone or tablet instead

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of building custom software, and really relying

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on reputable semen companies that provide detailed,

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reliable carcass data EPDs on their sires rather

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than just picking the lowest cost bowl off the

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list. So using external expertise and data to

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guarantee consistency and informed decisions.

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Exactly. They don't have to invent it all themselves.

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Okay, what about mid -sized operations, say 200

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to 500 cows? For them, that staged approach we

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talked about earlier is probably crucial. They

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can often leverage existing dairy cooperatives

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for marketing power and maybe even data aggregation.

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And they can look at farm management software

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that integrates their existing parlor and breeding

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records, but allows them to specifically track

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BXD performance metrics, conception rates by

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sire, maybe early health events, weaning weights.

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Focusing on gradual system improvements, adding

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capabilities as they go, rather than a massive

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disruptive overhaul all at once. Right. Bite

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-sized chunks. And then for the large operations,

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over 500 cows. Yeah, for them, the source material

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was pretty clear. To get those top -tier net

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returns consistently, you probably must build

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or invest in truly comprehensive systems, whether

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that's sophisticated in -house tracking or adopting

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enterprise -level software platforms. Why the

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difference at scale? Because... Partial implementation,

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like only focusing on genetics but ignoring nutrition

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consistency, or vice versa, rarely works well

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when you're dealing with large numbers. The inefficiencies

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get magnified. To realize those $200, $250 net

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returns per calf reliably, They need commitment

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and system integration across the board from

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breeding decisions through calf rearing, grower

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phase, finishing data feedback, all the way through

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marketing agreements. So the operations that

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are maybe struggling to capture the full premium,

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they aren't necessarily doing anything fundamentally

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wrong. No, not necessarily. They might just be

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optimizing for different constraints, giving

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low capital availability or labor shortages,

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which unfortunately limits their access to these

00:26:10.660 --> 00:26:13.740
emerging highest value quality driven premiums

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right now. OK. Let's shift gears slightly and

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talk about the future. Because this current high

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premium environment, well, it likely won't last

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forever at these levels. We can't just react

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to today's prices. No, you got to look ahead.

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Market cycle, always have, always will. The premiums

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are great right now, yeah. And they will likely

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hold. Reasonably strong for a while yet, based

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on current beef herd numbers, but markets will

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moderate eventually. Absolutely. As more and

00:26:41.339 --> 00:26:44.859
more producers adopt BXD successfully, that scarcity

00:26:44.859 --> 00:26:47.680
premium, the part driven just by lack of supply,

00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:50.509
it naturally starts to soften. And the beef cow

00:26:50.509 --> 00:26:53.990
herd, while rebuilding slowly, will rebuild eventually.

00:26:54.170 --> 00:26:56.450
Plus, there's new packing capacity development

00:26:56.450 --> 00:26:58.730
in the works. Right. Those new plants, while

00:26:58.730 --> 00:27:00.950
they take years, not months, to come online,

00:27:01.230 --> 00:27:03.349
they should eventually alleviate some of the

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bottlenecks we've seen in the last few years.

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Which likely compresses packer margins and eventually

00:27:08.509 --> 00:27:11.650
premiums paid back to the farm. It's the logical

00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:14.460
outcome. So the long -term strategy here for

00:27:14.460 --> 00:27:16.859
anyone really serious about making BXDE a core

00:27:16.859 --> 00:27:19.619
part of their dairy business is to focus relentlessly

00:27:19.619 --> 00:27:23.160
on quality differentiation, operational efficiency,

00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.160
and maybe leveraging technological advantages

00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.319
where you can. Those are the things that maintain

00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.279
margins after the easy scarcity premiums fade

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away. Exactly. Investing now in feed quality

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.500
consistency, in systematic management, improving

00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:40.119
your quality through data that creates durable

00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:43.660
value that transcends simple market cycles. You're

00:27:43.660 --> 00:27:46.319
not just chasing a temporary trend. You're building

00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:49.500
a long term, specialized, value added business

00:27:49.500 --> 00:27:52.579
line within your dairy. Well put. And alongside

00:27:52.579 --> 00:27:55.819
that strategic focus, we have to be. you know,

00:27:55.819 --> 00:27:58.640
brutally honest about the risks associated with

00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.579
this kind of expansion or specialization too.

00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.180
Good point. What are the key risks? Well, we

00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:05.000
talked about the potential for increased labor,

00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:06.980
especially during that critical first 60 days

00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:10.059
for crossbred calves. That's a real quantifiable

00:28:10.059 --> 00:28:12.140
cost you have to budget for. If you're borrowing

00:28:12.140 --> 00:28:14.559
capital to expand facilities, maybe you buy new

00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:16.640
equipment for precision feeding or data tracking,

00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:18.859
you need to keep that debt level conservative.

00:28:19.899 --> 00:28:22.279
Financial advisors always recommend maintaining

00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:24.880
a reasonable debt -to -asset ratio, especially

00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.480
in a sector as historically volatile as dairy.

00:28:27.940 --> 00:28:30.559
Don't overextend based on today's peak premiums.

00:28:30.579 --> 00:28:33.359
Sound advice. What else? And the final, really

00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.460
critical risk, processor relationships change.

00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.279
They just do. Yeah, that's a constant worry.

00:28:39.539 --> 00:28:41.660
Plant modifications happen. Ownership transitions

00:28:41.660 --> 00:28:45.079
occur. Program requirements get tweaked, sometimes

00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.079
with very little warning. So you need options.

00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.509
Always have alternatives. Always have a plan

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B, maybe even a plan C for marketing your cattle,

00:28:53.170 --> 00:28:55.450
even if those alternatives aren't currently your

00:28:55.450 --> 00:28:58.650
first choice processor or program. Flexibility

00:28:58.650 --> 00:29:00.549
in marketing is just survival in this sector.

00:29:00.769 --> 00:29:03.170
OK, so maybe think of it like a quick risk checklist

00:29:03.170 --> 00:29:05.980
before diving deeper or expanding. Yeah, exactly.

00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.839
Like, have I realistically budgeted for the increased

00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.839
labor? Have I actually checked and verified the

00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.380
consistency of my calf starter feed ingredients

00:29:14.380 --> 00:29:17.539
recently? Do I have at least two viable marketing

00:29:17.539 --> 00:29:20.119
channels for these calves? And if you can confidently

00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.680
answer yes to those, you're much better prepared

00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.880
for the inevitable market moderation ahead. Right.

00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.099
But if you're just relying on cheap inputs, guesswork

00:29:29.099 --> 00:29:31.680
on genetics, and baking everything on one process

00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:34.400
or relationship staying exactly the same forever...

00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:36.859
Well, you're building on a fragile foundation.

00:29:37.460 --> 00:29:39.640
All right, let's wrap this up then. Let's distill

00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:41.819
it down. Our farmer, maybe they just finished

00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:43.859
morning milking. Perhaps they are driving to

00:29:43.859 --> 00:29:46.180
the feed store right now, feeling the weight

00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:48.299
of that biological lag we talked about, maybe

00:29:48.299 --> 00:29:51.319
questioning the real cost of inconsistency in

00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.920
their current program. What are the three absolute

00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.359
must -know things from this deep dive that they

00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:58.539
can actually act on? Okay, insight number one

00:29:58.539 --> 00:30:01.000
for immediate action, like this week or this

00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.039
month, you need to audit your calf nutrition

00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.619
program specifically for consistency, not just

00:30:06.619 --> 00:30:09.220
for the lowest cost per ton. Stop buying those

00:30:09.220 --> 00:30:12.339
critical ingredients like molasses or maybe key

00:30:12.339 --> 00:30:15.279
protein supplements solely based on the cheapest

00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.079
bulk price tag. You need to demand and actually

00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:21.559
check the consistency documentation. Ask your

00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.660
supplier for those bricks readings on molasses.

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Ask for the guaranteed minimum total sugars.

00:30:25.859 --> 00:30:29.680
Ask about sourcing consistency. Ensure you aren't

00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.339
unknowingly compromising that vital early starter

00:30:32.339 --> 00:30:35.940
intake by maybe 10, 15, even 18 percent due to

00:30:35.940 --> 00:30:37.519
variable quality you didn't even know about.

00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.119
That directly sabotages your high value BXD program

00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.420
before it starts. So pay for the quality controlled

00:30:44.420 --> 00:30:47.220
feed, that extra $5 difference per bag or whatever

00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:49.480
it is. View it as an investment in predictable

00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:51.900
performance, not just an added cost. Absolutely.

00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:53.740
OK, insight number two. Insight number two. This

00:30:53.740 --> 00:30:55.579
is a medium term strategy. Think next three to

00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:57.880
six months. Build a strategic data driven foundation

00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.480
for your BXD program now. This means actually

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.660
starting that 24 to 36 month roadmap today. Don't

00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:08.319
wait. Invest that $50 or so per head in genomic

00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.579
testing for your best cows and heifers to make.

00:31:11.099 --> 00:31:13.480
truly informed replacement versus beef decisions.

00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:16.579
And simultaneously, select proven beef sires

00:31:16.579 --> 00:31:19.500
with documented, reliable, high carcass value

00:31:19.500 --> 00:31:23.079
EPDs, not just calving ease. Look at marbling,

00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.099
ribeye area potential. And the source material

00:31:25.099 --> 00:31:28.160
was just unequivocal on this. This upfront investment

00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.400
in data and genetics pays off quickly through

00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.119
much better, more profitable breeding decisions

00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.240
down the line. This is really the difference

00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.440
between just sort of hoping for a high value

00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.960
calf and purposefully, systematically creating

00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.289
one. All said. Okay. And the third insight. And

00:31:42.289 --> 00:31:44.470
finally, insight number three. This is the long

00:31:44.470 --> 00:31:46.089
-term positioning looking out over the next one

00:31:46.089 --> 00:31:48.670
to two years. Position your operation for durable

00:31:48.670 --> 00:31:51.380
quality differentiation and efficiency. not just

00:31:51.380 --> 00:31:53.700
riding the wave of current scarcity premiums.

00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.059
Understand that today's really strong premiums

00:31:56.059 --> 00:31:58.720
will moderate as BXD adoption increases and the

00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.000
national beef herd eventually rebuilds. That's

00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.180
just market economics. So build those systematic

00:32:04.180 --> 00:32:07.640
management processes now. Start tracking BXD

00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.460
-specific data points. Look into implementing

00:32:10.460 --> 00:32:13.500
precision feeding where feasible. Document your

00:32:13.500 --> 00:32:16.319
health protocols rigorously. Do that so your

00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.880
future margins depend more on your own operational

00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.819
efficiency. and your proven ability to deliver

00:32:21.819 --> 00:32:24.420
consistent quality and less on just hoping for

00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:26.480
tight market supplies forever. And remember that

00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.460
biological lag. The breeding, feeding, and management

00:32:29.460 --> 00:32:31.740
decisions you make this week are literally creating

00:32:31.740 --> 00:32:34.799
your farm's market reality in late 2027. You

00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:36.880
just can't afford to wait if you want to capture

00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.380
that value consistently. Well, this has been

00:32:39.380 --> 00:32:41.019
another deep dive from the Bullvine podcast.

00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:43.759
Look, if this kind of impartial analysis and

00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.380
frankly, financial reality check helps your operation

00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:48.859
succeed in navigating these big structural changes

00:32:48.859 --> 00:32:52.640
in the BXD market, then head over to www .thebullvine

00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.880
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00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:56.359
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00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.339
the dairy industry beyond the headlines. And

00:32:58.339 --> 00:33:00.700
seriously, subscribe wherever you get your content,

00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.740
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00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:06.599
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00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.339
there's so much changing. And trust me, you really

00:33:09.339 --> 00:33:10.960
don't want to miss what we've got coming up next

00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:12.900
week. We're going to be focusing specifically

00:33:12.900 --> 00:33:16.279
on those new packing capacity developments, the

00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.980
proposed plants actually coming online, and digging

00:33:18.980 --> 00:33:21.480
into what they could mean for regional pricing

00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.880
differences, especially as some of those older

00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:26.200
established processor relationships inevitably

00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.279
start to shift. It's going to be interesting.
