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Breaking free from the chains of the past Where

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truth moves faster than a Holstein calf No law

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waiting on some printed page We're charting new

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ground in the digital age From genomic codes

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to robot facts We cut through the noise, no hold

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them back not your daddy's dairy news tonight

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we're sparking where we deliver the contrarian

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insights and uncomfortable truths the dairy industry

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needs to hear. I'm your host, and today we're

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diving into a story that's costing you $12 ,000

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every single month you wait to act on it. We're

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talking about the seven -fold price difference

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between Holstein bulls and beef crosses. $200

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versus $1 ,400 for the same calf from the same

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cow. Just different semen. In this episode...

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we expose why consultants charge $7 ,000 for

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what costs $150 to implement, why extension workshops

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are designed for attendance metrics instead of

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your profitability, and why major processors

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will lock up 70 % of the beef dairy market by

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2026. This is investigative dairy journalism

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at its finest. Let's get into it. Welcome back

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to the Deep Dive, where we cut through dairy

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industry noise to get you the insights that actually

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matter for your operation. Today, we're tackling

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something, well, something that seems like it

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should be incredibly simple. A revenue opportunity

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that's right there. But it's gotten tangled up

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in, frankly, a lot of unnecessary complexity.

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Absolutely. We're diving deep into a future piece

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that's definitely been making waves, generating

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some serious buzz. And this one, it really does

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have layers. Layers of opportunity, yes, but

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also layers of, let's call it frustrating red

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tape. It's going to make farmers, I think, really

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rethink how they're looking at one of the easiest

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wins out there. Beef on dairy. OK, let's set

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the stage here because the context is crucial,

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isn't it? We're in this environment have been

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for a while of tight margins. Milk prices are

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all over the place and farmers are understandably

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scrambling, looking for ways to bring in cash

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that don't involve massive capital outlay. Yeah,

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exactly. They need cash flow, not the kind that

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comes with signing, you know, another half million

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dollar note for a new barn or fancy robots. They

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need simple, reliable revenue streams, stuff

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they can implement now. And the market data shows

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they want this. The interest is definitely there.

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We're looking at the NAB report, the National

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Association of Animal Breeders 2024 annual figures.

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Right. And those numbers are pretty staggering.

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84 % of all beef semen sold is now going to dairy

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farms. 84%. That's not just a little trend. That's

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a fundamental shift in the industry. It really

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is. It shows the desire, the need to make this

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change is widespread. It's clearly driven by

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economics, by... Let's be honest, a bit of desperation

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for some. But it's not just about who wants to

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do it. The real stakes, the urgency, it comes

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down to the dollars and cents at the auction

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barn. And this disparity is, well, it's why we

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need to talk about this now. We've got USDA Agricultural

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Marketing Service reports, fresh data from October

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15th right across Midwest auctions. And what

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are they saying? Straight Holstein bulls? Yeah.

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What are they fetching? Barely making weight,

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really. $190 maybe. $210 if you're lucky, if

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the buyer's feeling generous that day. Okay,

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so $200, give or take, that's your ceiling for

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a dairy bull calf. Pretty much. Now contrast

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that, the beef crosses come into the ring. And

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the whole atmosphere changes, doesn't it? You

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can hear it in the auctioneer's voice. Totally.

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They're consistently pulling $1 ,200 to $1 ,400.

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Consistently. $1 ,200 to $1 ,400, okay. And we

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even saw reports one really nice Angus cross

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heifer cap hit $1 ,575. Wow. Okay, so let's just

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take that baseline difference. Yeah. $200 versus,

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let's say, $1 ,300 on average. That's the number.

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$1 ,200 to $1 ,400 is the reliable range. That's

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seven times the money. Just pause on that. Seven.

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Times. Money. It's the same cow. Exactly. Same

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cow carrying the calf, same feed going into her,

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same water, same barn space. Same buyers, often

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standing ringside. Often the very same buyers.

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The only physical difference is swapping out,

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what, a $20 dairy straw for a $25 beef straw?

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Right. A $5 difference in input cost for $1 ,100

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difference in output price. It should be the

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easiest decision a farmer makes all year, like

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you said earlier. But it's not, is it? And that's

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the core of this deep dive, the real controversy

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here. The problem isn't the technology. The deck

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is simple. It's cheap. It's a $25 straw. So what

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is the problem? It's the delay. The mandated

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complexity, the advice that's being pushed. We're

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seeing this push for like a $6 ,000, $7 ,000

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planning phase. Testing, consulting, strategy

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sessions. All before the farmer is supposedly

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allowed to try the actual fix. Exactly. Before

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they spent $150 on five straws just to see if

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it works on their worst cows. The planning costs

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thousands. The fixed costs, pocket change. It's

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completely backwards. Astronomically higher.

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And we can't ignore the clock ticking here either.

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There's this looming 2026 deadline with processor

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consolidation. We'll get into that more later.

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But yeah, the urgency is real. It means if you

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spend the next six months. developing a comprehensive

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plan like the consultants tell you to. You might

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miss the boat entirely. The market isn't waiting

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for your feasibility study. Not at all. Okay,

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let's really nail down these numbers. That $1

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,200 price gap isn't just an anecdote. No, the

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USDA AMS reports confirm it week after week.

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It's the minimum average difference you're seeing.

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Consistently, $1 ,200 to $1 ,400 for the beef

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crosses. Holstein's struggling to break $200.

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Let's translate that. Think about a typical dairy,

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maybe 200 cows milking. They're breeding maybe

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120 calves a year total, some for replacement,

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some destined for beef anyway. Right. So let's

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say out of those 120, they decide to use dairy

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semen on just 50 calves that aren't absolutely

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critical for replacement. Maybe lower end cows

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are not sure about keeping long term. Okay. 50

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calves bred to Holstein bulls at $200 a pup.

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That's $10 ,000. Simple math. Now, what if they'd

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use beef semen on those same 50 cows at, say,

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$1 ,300 average? 50 times $1 ,300. That's $65

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,000. So $10 ,000 versus $65 ,000. The difference,

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the opportunity cost, the cash they just voluntarily

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left on the table is $55 ,000. $55 ,000 in additional

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revenue. And this is the kicker. What did it

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cost to get that extra $55 ,000? Well, the semen

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cost difference is maybe five bucks a straw times

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50 cows. Maybe, let's say they used 1 .5 straws

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per conception, so 75 straws. That's under $400

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in extra semen cost. So less than $400 cost for

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$55 ,000 gain, and crucially, no extra capital

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investment needed. None. No new buildings, no

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asking the bank for another loan, no hiring extra

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people. It's pure margin, pure profit improvement,

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driven by a tiny change in input. And you see

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farmers, understandably, agonizing over milk

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prices, fighting for every penny per hundredweight.

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They're debating cutting protein supplement by

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a tiny bit to save 50 cents, maybe save $5 ,000

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over the whole year. Which is important, don't

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get me wrong. Absolutely. But at the same time,

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they're potentially walking away from $1 ,100

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per calf on dozens of animals. It's this huge

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inefficiency that when you add it all up, it

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can become a question of solvency. Let's think

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about the cumulative impact, too. It's not just

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one year. Say a farm needs to restructure debt

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or just needs cash to cover rising fuel costs,

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labor or whatever. If they miss out on that $50

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,000 or $60 ,000 this year and then again next

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year, just because they stuck with dairy semen

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18 months ago. That's over $100 ,000 cash shortfall

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across two years. And what does that mean practically?

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That's the difference between making your loan

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payments comfortably and getting put on the bank's

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watch list. It's the difference between paying

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down debt and racking up interest on the operating

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line just to buy feed. That small decision today

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ripples through the balance sheet for years.

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My gut reaction, just looking at the farm finance

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side, if I'm culling, let's say, just 10 cows

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a month that aren't making the replacement cut,

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and I get those $200 checks, okay, that's $2

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,000, but what could I have gotten? 10 cows times,

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say, $13. That's $13 ,000. So by taking the $2

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,000, I'm actively choosing to forego $11 ,000

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every single month. It's a hemorrhage, like you

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said. $11 ,000 a month. What does that cover

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on, say, a 150 -cow operation? That's easily

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a month's worth of diesel and repairs. Or paying

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a good full -time employee for two months during

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planting or harvest season. It's real money that's

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just evaporating. Yeah. Because the system has

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somehow convinced people they need a PhD and

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a $7 ,000 plan before making a simple $25 purchase

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decision. And it hits farms of all sizes. If

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you're smaller, say 80 cows. That difference

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between maybe $8 ,000 from bull calves versus

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$50 ,000 or $60 ,000 from beef crosses. That

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is your cash flow. That's the difference between

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making it and needing the operating line constantly.

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And for a larger farm, scaling that $50 ,000

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or $60 ,000 difference across hundreds of calves.

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It adds serious dollars to the bottom line. millions

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potentially, without the headache and risk of

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building a whole new barn or parlor. It's just

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profit optimization using the assets you already

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have more effectively. It seems like the lowest

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hanging fruit, the easiest lever to pull for

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profitability right now. And yet the whole advisory

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system seems designed to make it feel like rocket

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science. Which brings us right to this implementation

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intention gap. We have to challenge the standard

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advice here. What's the script? You know, the

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one farmers hear from extension, from consultants,

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when they ask about breeding to beef. Oh, it's

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practically memorized. Standard issue. Well,

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first, you need comprehensive genomic testing.

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Step one, always testing. Always. Then you need

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to build your breeding hierarchy, optimize your

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genetic selection matrix, blah, blah, blah. Plan,

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plan, plan, focus on perfection, maybe seven

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generations down the road. Instead of putting

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cash in your pocket today, it's all about future

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optimization over current reality. They insist

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you need this perfect, scientifically validated

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plan before you order the first beef straw. But

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the actual data, the behavioral research, tells

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a very different story. Yeah, this research from

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the Agricultural Systems Journal, March. 2024.

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It's fascinating because it's just basic human

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psychology applied to farming. What did it find?

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It found that farmers who use what they call

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satisficing strategies, good enough practical

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decisions, like just jumping in, starting immediately

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with the cows they know are culls, the obvious

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ones. Those farmers actually had better sustained

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adoption rates. They stuck with beef on dairy

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longer than the farmers who spent six months

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or a year planning the perfect strategy. That's

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brilliant because it nails the problem with overplanning.

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It's that gap. The implementation intention gap.

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Right. The longer you wait between deciding you

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want to do something and actually doing it, the

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less likely you are to ever follow through. We

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all do it, right? Decide to start exercising,

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spend weeks researching gyms and plans. And never

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actually go. Yeah. So this current structure,

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the mandate to wait for the $7 ,000 comprehensive

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plan. It actively makes the problem worse. It

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widens that gap. It takes a simple $25 action

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ordering different semen and turns it into this

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massive, intimidating, expensive project. Makes

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it feel overwhelming. Exactly. The farmer's already

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stressed about everything else. You hand them

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a 50 -page binder full of charts and genetic

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codes. It goes into the deal with this later,

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maybe, pile. Precisely. And the proof that people

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are jumping in anyway is right there in the NEAB.

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The semen sales numbers we mentioned. 7 .9 million

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units of beef semen sold to dairies, 84 % of

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all beef semen. You can bet the vast majority

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of those farmers didn't sit through six months

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of consulting meetings first. They saw the $1

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,200 price difference at the sale barn, they

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needed the cash flow, and they just started.

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They likely skipped the optimization matrix entirely.

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They grabbed the life preserver instead of waiting

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for swimming lessons. Well put. And the market

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rewards that action, doesn't it? It doesn't reward

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perfect planning. That never happens. If 84 %

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of the industry is doing it, it clearly works

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well enough at a basic level. The ones making

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the money are the ones who act it. Okay, let's

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really follow the money trail here, because this

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is where that six -month planning delay isn't

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just inefficient, it starts to look, well...

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Punitive. Almost predatory. Let's break down

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how they get to that $6 ,000 or $7 ,000 figure.

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Right. The consultant cost structure, it starts

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with the initial visit, right? Usually. Just

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to come out, walk the farm, assess the situation.

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That's easily $500 to $800 right there. The discovery

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phase, where they discover you need their expensive

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plan. Bingo. Then comes the inevitable push.

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Comprehensive genomic testing. Which we just

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talked about. Yeah. It's around $40 per cow,

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maybe more depending on the test. Plus, often,

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There are coordination fees tacked on for the

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consultant to handle the samples and data. So

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for a pretty modest 100 -cow herd... You're instantly

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looking at $4 ,000 just for testing. Testing

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that... for the cull cows just confirms what

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your own eyes and records already told you okay

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so four thousand dollars for testing plus the

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500 800 initial visit we're already close to

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five grand then add in maybe a couple of monthly

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check -in calls or visits while they analyze

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the data another few hundred bucks each time

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plus the time build for actually writing up the

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comprehensive strategy document so yes six thousand

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dollars seven thousand dollars maybe even more

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and you haven't even bred a single cow to beef

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yet based on this grand plan seven thousand dollars

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just stop and think about that figure you're

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on a farm budget. What else does $7 ,000 buy

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you? Tangible things you need. At today's prices,

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that's maybe 600 good round bales of hay. Which

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is winter feed for 40 cows, easily. Or half a

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year's worth of sawdust bedding for a typical

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100 cow freestall. Or think equipment. You could

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probably find a decent used TMR mixer for that,

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something that could cut your feed waste by 10%.

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So the choice becomes, invest $7 ,000 in actual

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feed, bedding, or efficiency boosting equipment.

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Or invest it in a consultant's binder. A binder

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that tells you things you mostly already knew,

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delaying the actual $1 ,100 per calf revenue

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stream. It's sacrificing survival essentials

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for strategy documents. And what's in that binder

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usually? What's the deliverable for $7 ,000?

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Lots of complicated looking charts, genetic trend

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graphs, optimization matrices. Often advice based

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on national averages or data from giant farms

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in total different climates, which might have

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zero relevance to your local conditions, your

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feed costs, your buyers. It's designed to look

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impressive, sophisticated, not necessarily immediately

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actionable or relevant. Exactly. And the whole

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structure cleverly hides the ridiculously simple

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cost benefit here. The actual change is using

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a $20 beef straw instead of a $20 dairy straw.

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That's it. The solution costs $5 more per attempt.

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The planning costs $7 ,000. The industry has

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literally built a multi -thousand -dollar process

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around a $5 decision. It generates complexity

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where none needs to exist. Which leads to the

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crucial hidden cost, the planning trap opportunity

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cost. Right. We established earlier waiting just

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one month, breeding just 10 cows to dairy instead

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of beef, costs you about $11 ,000. in lost potential

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revenue. And these consulting plans, they often

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take three, four, sometimes six months to develop

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and roll out. So let's be conservative. Say you

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wait five months for the perfect plan. Five months

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times $11 ,000. That's $55 ,000. You forfeited

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$55 ,000 in cash flow while waiting for the plan

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to be delivered. And does the consultant ever

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mention that $55 ,000 opportunity cost in their

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proposal? Never. Not once. They talk about potential

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future genetic gains years down the line. They

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never calculate the actual cash you're bleeding

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right now by delaying. The farm needs cash flow

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today. To pay the feed bill, make the loan payment,

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keep the lights on. And this system demands they

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hemorrhage cash for half a year, chasing theoretical

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perfection. Which the research shows they're

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less likely to stick with anyway than if they

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just started messy and adapted. It makes no sense.

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Okay, enough theory. Let's look at real world

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examples. Does this just start approach actually

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work? We have that Fond du Lac farmer anecdote.

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Yeah, the Fond du Lac story is a perfect illustration.

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Puts the plan first dogma in its place. Guy runs,

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what, about 280 head? Old school Ticenol barn,

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typical Midwestern setup. Exactly the kind of

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farm feeling the squeeze. So what did he do?

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18 months ago, he just started. Pretty much.

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Started breeding his obvious cull cows to beef

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semen. What was his comprehensive strategy? Did

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he get the genomics? Hire a consultant? Nope,

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none of that. He just used his eyes and his records,

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picked out the classic problem cows, you know,

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the three teeter that's a hassle to milk, the

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cow that's been open for months and just won't

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settle, the chronic mastitis case that's eating

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up vet bills and dumped milk. The ones every

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farmer knows are on their way out anyway. Exactly.

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The obvious ones. He started breeding them to

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beef instead of dairy. Simple as that. And the

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result? The source says he banked an extra $68

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,000 in revenue last year. Just from those beef

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cross calves. 68 grand. Wow. Meanwhile, his neighbor.

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His neighbor, apparently similar size farm, similar

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setup, is still developing a comprehensive strategy

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with some consultant based out of Madison. So

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neighbor A has an extra $68 ,000 cash. Neighbor

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B has a binder and is still waiting to start.

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Neighbor B is stuck firmly in that implementation

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intention gap, losing tens of thousands in the

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process. And this is why the perspective from

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agricultural lenders is so telling, isn't it?

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Absolutely. Bankers look at one thing above all

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else, cash flow. Can the farm pay its bills and

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service its debt? When they see a farm struggling,

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maybe trying to refinance, they see this beef

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on dairy thing as the simplest fix imaginable.

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See, wait, you can add $60 ,000 in revenue from

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50 calves with zero capital investment. Exactly.

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That's a huge immediate boost to solvency. It

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makes their loan look a whole lot safer instantly.

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And that behavioral economics research backs

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this up too. The source had that off -the -record

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quote from a lender. Yeah, basically saying they

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see more farmers actually start using beef on

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dairy when they're desperate, when they're really

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struggling and need the cash now, more than they

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see adoption from farmers who are comfortable

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in just attending educational workshops about

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it. Crisis clarifies priorities. It forces action.

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When you're grounding, you grab the life preserver

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that's thrown to you. You don't ask about swimming

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lesson schedules. The science confirms it. Interventions

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driven by immediate need have much higher follow

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through rates than those based on purely educational,

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nice to have optimization when things are OK.

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And this connects right into the whole farmer

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stress issue and frankly, the failure of how

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a lot of this advice is delivered. We know from

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research like those Canadian parliamentary hearings

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in 2023, when farmers are in deep financial trouble,

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they tend to withdraw. Right. They stop going

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to the auctions, stop attending co -op meetings

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or extension workshops. They're home, stressed,

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trying to keep things running, maybe milking

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in the dark to save a few bucks on electricity.

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But where are these comprehensive strategy workshops

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usually held? Tuesday morning, 10 a .m. at the

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Holiday Inn Conference Center downtown. Right

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smack in the middle of morning, milking and chores

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for most farms. The whole delivery system often

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feels designed for the farmers who are comfortable

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enough to take half a day off, not for the ones

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who are struggling the most and need practical

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help now. And this goes back to how success is

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measured internally for some of these advisory

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services. Yeah, the Journal of Extension piece

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from April 2024 hit this hard. Extension folks

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are often evaluated based on workshop attendance

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numbers and how much participants like the coffee

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and donuts the satisfaction scores. They're not

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evaluated on whether the farmers who attended

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actually implemented anything useful. Or, crucially,

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whether they actually made any more money because

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of it. So the incentive is to run a popular,

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well -attended workshop, not necessarily to deliver

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advice that saves a farm $60 ,000. It's a structural

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misalignment. Internal metrics over real -world

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farmer outcomes. OK, we need to pivot now because

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it's not just about the farm's internal economics.

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There's this huge external pressure building.

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The market itself is changing fast. We're seeing

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reports from major analysts, Rabobank, CoBank,

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just in the last month or so, all talking about

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accelerating processor consolidation in the beef

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dairy supply chain. Yeah, this isn't just talk

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anymore. It's happening. The big packers, Tyson,

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JBS, Cargill. They're making strategic moves.

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They need predictable supply. They need consistent

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quality. And they need massive volume. And dealing

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with hundreds of small farms bringing in a handful

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of calves sporadically just doesn't work for

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their model, does it? Not at all. It's inefficient.

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It's logistically messy. They can't build a reliable

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supply chain on, as one source put it, guys bringing

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five cows one week, none the next. What are they

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doing instead? They're moving towards locking

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up supply through exclusive multi -year contracts.

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They're going to larger operations or groups

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of operations that can guarantee consistent volume,

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often with specific beef genetics. And they're

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offering premium prices for that reliability.

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They're basically cornering the market for high

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-quality, consistent beef on dairy calves. That's

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exactly what it looks like. And this leads to

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the critical deadline prediction the source mentioned.

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This should be a wake -up call. What was the

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prediction? By the end of 2026, so... Just over

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two years from now, the prediction is that 70

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% of the desirable beef dairy supply will be

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locked up under these exclusive contracts. 70%.

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Wow. Okay, so what does that mean for the average

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farmer, especially the small or mid -sized ones

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who are still developing their comprehensive

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strategy? It means they could be in real trouble.

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by the time their perfect plan is finally ready

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to implement in late 2026 or 2027. The door to

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those premium contracts might already be shut,

00:22:29.059 --> 00:22:31.680
bolted even. Exactly. They'll be left selling

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their calves on the open, volatile spot market.

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Competing with everyone else who missed the boat,

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likely fighting for lower prices. Back to potentially

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getting not much more than those $200 Holstein

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bull prices if the spot market gets saturated.

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It's a real risk. The processors are already

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signaling this. They're turning away smaller,

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inconsistent suppliers now. They need that reliable

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weekly volume, maybe 20 calves a week minimum

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from a source to make the logistics work. So

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contrast the farmer who starts now, even small,

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builds volume. proves consistency over the next

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18, 24 months. That farmer is positioning themselves

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to potentially grab one of those contracts, secure

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that premium for the next few years. Versus the

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farmer still sitting in planning meetings in

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mid -2025. By the time they have calves ready

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in volume, the game might have fundamentally

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changed. The premium market could be fully allocated.

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So the urgency isn't just about capturing the

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$1 ,200 price today. It's about securing market

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access for the future. It's about ensuring you're

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not left on the outside looking in when 70 %

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of the market consolidates. It's about long -term

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viability. Acting now is essentially buying insurance

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against being relegated to the spot market scrap

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heap in 2027. That's a good way to put it. The

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market waits for no one, especially not for a

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six -month planning cycle. All right, let's circle

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back to the advice itself. We need to be really

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critical of some of the things consultants push,

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especially when they're charging that $7 ,000

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fee. What are the big red flags farmers should

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watch out for? Red flag number one, definitely.

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Insisting on comprehensive genomic testing before

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you breed a single cull cow to beef. We touched

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on this, but it bears repeating. For identifying

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cows that clearly shouldn't be making replacements.

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It's overkill. It's financially wasteful. Yeah.

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Yes, genomics are great for selecting your elite

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replacement heifers. but for the obvious calls.

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That three -teeter, the chronic mastitis cow

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that cost you $2 ,000 in vet bills last lactation,

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the one that's been open 200 days. Do you really

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need a $40 DNA test plus fees to tell you she's

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not prime replacement material? Come on. It's

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using an expensive tool for a job your own records

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and eyes can do for free. If you can't spot your

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worst cows... You've got bigger management issues

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than genetics, absolutely. So that insistence

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on universal testing up front, big red flag.

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Okay, red flag number two. Pushing expensive

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equipment before you even have the calves on

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the ground to justify it. The source mentioned

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a consultant heavily pushing a $12 ,000 remote

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calf monitoring system before the farmer had

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even bred the first cow for a beef calf. $12

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,000. Based on what? Theoretical mortality risk.

00:25:07.069 --> 00:25:09.490
Exactly. But what does the actual research say

00:25:09.490 --> 00:25:12.740
about preventing... calf mortality. Multiple

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universities agree. It's colostrum. Good colostrum

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management. Four quarts within the first couple

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of hours. Bingo. And that's an observation. Manual

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checks. What does that cost? A $30 Bricks refractometer

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to check colostrum quality and paying attention,

00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:29.859
maybe some extra labor time. Right. Not a $12

00:25:29.859 --> 00:25:32.099
,000 capital investment that costs the equivalent

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of a year's worth of betting. That smells like

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pushing high margin tech sales, not solving a

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real problem efficiently. So unnecessary testing,

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premature equipment pushing. What's red flag

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number three? Relying heavily on national averages

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or data from completely different types of farms.

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If the consultant's presentation is full of ROI

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projections from a massive 10 ,000 cow confinement

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operation in Texas. And you're milking 150 cows

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in a tie stall in Wisconsin dealing with snow

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and $280 drought hay. That Texas data is virtually

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meaningless to you. Your costs are different.

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Your climate is different. Your local buyers

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and market dynamics are different. You need to

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know what your neighbor, Tom, down the road,

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is getting for his calves. Who's buying them?

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What are local feed costs? Exactly. Generic national

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averages are easy for consultants to pull up.

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They look official. But they're often useless

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for making decisions on your specific farm. It's

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lazy analysis disguised as expertise. And this

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all ties back to the bigger structural problem,

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doesn't it? The university funding angle. Oh,

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yeah. This is where the whole system really incentivizes

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complexity over simple solutions. You see land

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-grant universities asking for huge sums. The

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example was $16 million for new research barns

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in Wisconsin, partly to study the implementation

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challenges of beef on dairy. Studying the challenges

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of implementing a solution that costs $25 per

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straw. $16 million. Think about that. If you

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just gave that $16 million directly to Wisconsin

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dairy farmers as a $5 per straw rebate for beef

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semen? You could probably pay for the conversion

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of almost every single Holstein bull calf born

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in the state to a beef cross for the next decade.

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Exactly. Every single one. But that doesn't build

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fancy research facilities. It doesn't fund large

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graduate student programs. It doesn't get professors

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tenure. So instead, we fund multi -million dollar

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research projects to study the complexities of

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a $25 fix. It becomes a self -serving cycle.

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Okay, wow. We've covered a ton of ground from

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that $11 ,000 monthly hemorrhage on just 10 cows

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to the consultant traps to that looming 2026

00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.960
contract cliff. Let's distill it down. Farmer

00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:49.819
just finished milking, grabbing coffee, maybe

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driving to the feed store. What are the absolute

00:27:52.259 --> 00:27:54.680
must -know takeaways, the actionable stuff from

00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.299
this deep dive? Right, we need to cut through

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the noise. It boils down to prioritizing immediate

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practical action over waiting for some mythical

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perfect plan. The plan needs to start today,

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even if it's small and messy. So, insight number

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one. What's the first step this week, maybe even

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today? Insight one, immediate action. This week,

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today, the action. Call your AI tech right now.

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Tell them on their next visit, bring some decent

00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.000
general purpose beef semen, hangus cross, semangus,

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whatever's readily available and reasonably priced.

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The goal. Breed your five or six worst cows.

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The most obvious coals you already know you don't

00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.140
want replacements from. The three teeter, the

00:28:30.140 --> 00:28:32.500
chronic high SCC, the one that won't breed back.

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Cost, maybe $150 total for the semen. That's

00:28:36.059 --> 00:28:38.839
it. No genomics. No consultant fee. This $150

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investment starts the validation process on your

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farm. Start small. Prove the concept yourself,

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but start now. Don't wait for a $7 ,000 permission

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slip. Okay, what's next? Insight two. Medium

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-term strategy. Next three to six months. Scale

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based on what actually works, not a projection.

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After that first preg check, usually three weeks

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later, see how those first few cows did. If four

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or five out of six settled, great. Concept proven.

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Action. Scale up immediately. Breed the next

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15 likely culls. If conception rates stay decent,

00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:10.220
keep going. Aim to get 30, 40, maybe 50 head

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bred to beef over the next few months. Goal.

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Start generating consistent supply. Get that

00:29:14.539 --> 00:29:17.119
first cycle of potential $1 ,400 calves coming

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through. And if you invest anywhere, invest in

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.160
simple management tools that pay off like that

00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.220
$30 Bricks refractometer for colostrum, not $12

00:29:24.220 --> 00:29:26.730
,000 sensor systems yet. Let the early success

00:29:26.730 --> 00:29:28.769
pay for the small improvements. Don't go into

00:29:28.769 --> 00:29:30.829
debt for fancy tech before you know it works

00:29:30.829 --> 00:29:33.289
for you. Makes sense. And long -term. Insight

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three. Long -term positioning. Next one, two

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years. The key action here is speed of implementation

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over perfection. Keep the momentum going. Consistently

00:29:42.190 --> 00:29:44.430
breed your lower -end cows to beef. Build that

00:29:44.430 --> 00:29:47.329
volume. Goal. Position your farm to be a potential

00:29:47.329 --> 00:29:49.700
supplier for those premium contracts. Demonstrate

00:29:49.700 --> 00:29:51.279
you can deliver consistent numbers of quality

00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.599
beef cross calves month after month before that

00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.039
70 % consolidation deadline hits hard at the

00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.420
end of 2026. This is your insurance policy. It's

00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:00.940
about making sure you have a reliable premium

00:30:00.940 --> 00:30:02.960
market when the spot market potentially gets

00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.839
ugly. Avoid that scrap heap. Hashtag, hashtag,

00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.599
enhanced show outro. So that's our deep dive

00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.180
for today. If this kind of... practical, no -nonsense

00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:13.059
analysis helps your operation make better decisions,

00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.420
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00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.339
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hit subscribe wherever you get your podcasts

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00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.059
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00:30:30.059 --> 00:30:32.500
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00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.420
often -hitting costs of conventional feed programs

00:30:35.420 --> 00:30:37.640
and talking about one company that's trying to

00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.990
completely flip the script on how we think about

00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:41.490
feeding cows. It's going to be eye -opening.

00:30:41.970 --> 00:30:44.250
But for today, the final thought is this. You

00:30:44.250 --> 00:30:46.650
can potentially get $1 ,400 per calf instead

00:30:46.650 --> 00:30:49.369
of $200 just by changing the semen you use on

00:30:49.369 --> 00:30:52.210
your culled cows. $5 difference per straw. Tell

00:30:52.210 --> 00:30:54.650
us again why this needs a $7 ,000 plan. All right,

00:30:54.750 --> 00:30:57.289
here's your bottom line. Every Holstein bull

00:30:57.289 --> 00:31:00.269
calf you're selling for $200 could be a $1 ,400

00:31:00.269 --> 00:31:04.250
beef cross. The only difference? $25 worth of

00:31:04.250 --> 00:31:07.910
semen. Stop planning. Start breeding. Your action

00:31:07.910 --> 00:31:11.740
plan is simple. Call your AI tech today. Pick

00:31:11.740 --> 00:31:15.900
your six worst cows. Invest $150 in beef semen.

00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:19.539
In seven months, you'll bank $8 ,400 instead

00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:23.140
of $1 ,200. No consultants. No genomic testing.

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No $7 ,000 planning process. While you're sitting

00:31:26.619 --> 00:31:28.859
through another workshop on optimization matrices,

00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.019
your neighbor's already banking $1 ,400 per calf.

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Every month. For the full article with the complete

00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.559
action plan, visit thebullvine .com. That's T

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-H -E -B -U -L -L -V -I -N -E dot com. And remember,

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in dairy, like in life, those who act while others

00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:49.140
plan are the ones who profit. This has been the

00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:51.640
Bullvine Podcast. We'll see you next time with

00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.559
more contrarian insights and actionable intelligence

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the mainstream ag media won't deliver. Until

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then, stop planning, start profiting. Thank you.
