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from genomic codes to robot facts we cut through

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the noise no holes back. Not your daddy's dairy

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news tonight. Welcome to the Bullvine Podcast,

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your hub for the boldest ideas and insights transforming

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the dairy industry. In today's episode, we unpack

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groundbreaking research from Michigan State University

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that challenges everything you thought about

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corn silage nutrition and strategy. Get ready

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for fresh, actionable intel that could boost

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your milk production and farm profitability.

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Welcome back to the bull vine podcast the show

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that digs deep into the topics that matter to

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dairy producers And what a topic we have today

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We're diving into a feature article from the

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bull vine that has truly sent ripples through

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the dairy industry It's forcing us to reconsider

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some long -held beliefs and we're gonna break

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down every facet of this deep dive Absolutely,

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the article that has captured everyone's attention

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is titled br2 corn silage a new challenger to

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BMR. Yeah If that title alone doesn't pique your

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interest, let me assure you, its central, provocative

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claim certainly will. This piece suggests that

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recent Michigan State VR2 corn trials may completely

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flip the script on BMR's long -standing reputation

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as the unbeatable silage. Flip the script feels

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like an understatement, doesn't it? It really

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does. When this research first started circulating

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at summer dairy meetings, there was a palpable

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buzz, almost a sense of disbelief. among seasoned

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producers and nutritionists alike. BMR has been

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the gold standard, the undisputed champion of

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high quality forage for so long. It's been the

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cornerstone of high producing Gary rations for

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decades. Ages, yeah. So to hear that this new

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BR2, short stature corn, isn't just competing,

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but actually outperforming BMR in some really

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critical metrics. Well, it genuinely makes you

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sit up and take notice. It's like hearing a new

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rookie just beat the perennial MVP. It truly

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is. And for you, our listener, our mission today

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is to thoroughly unpack this surprising research.

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Yeah, let's get into it. We want to really understand

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its intricate details and implications and ultimately

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help you figure out what these findings could

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mean for your 2025 feed strategy. We're here

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to provide the clarity you need to make informed

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data -driven decisions for your operation. And

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before we get too deep, let's quickly set the

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stage by defining a few key terms we'll be using

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throughout our conversation. Just so we're all

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on the same page. Good idea. First up, the familiar

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BMR. BMR, which stands for brown midrib, is a

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type of corn characterized by a naturally reduced

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lignin content. Right, that reduced lignin. This

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reduction is absolutely crucial because lignin

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is essentially the indigestible glue in the plant

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cell wall, and less of it means significantly

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improved fiber digestibility. That's the key.

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For decades, BMR has been the premium forage

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standard. the benchmark against which all other

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silages were measured for high -producing dairy

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cows. Then we have BR2, which is shorthand for

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brachydic 2. Okay. This is a novel gene that

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gives us short -stature corn. What's truly unique

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about BR2 is its completely different plant architecture

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compared to conventional or even BMR corn. How

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so? It's much shorter, much more compact, and

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that structural difference plays a significant

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role in its agronomic and nutritional profile.

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Gotcha. And as we talk about performance, you'll

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hear us refer to ECM or energy corrected milk.

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Important one. This isn't just about the volume

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of milk. It's the metric that truly reflects

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what matters for your milk check, as it accounts

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for both the milk volume and its energy rich

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components like fat and protein. Right. It balances

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it out. It gives us a more accurate picture of

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the energy output from the cow. And finally,

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DMI or dry matter intake. This is simply how

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much feed your cows are actually consuming. on

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a dry matter basis. Pretty straightforward. Generally,

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higher DMI often correlates with higher production,

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because the more high -quality nutrients a cow

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can consume, the more she has available to convert

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into milk. Makes sense. But, as we'll see today,

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it's not always a direct one -to -one relationship.

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Hmm. All the fascinating data and observations

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we're dissecting today, those numbers that got

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everyone talking, come from rigorous scientific

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research. Yeah, this isn't just hearsay. Specifically,

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we're drawing from the work by Sirmikasaglulu

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et al. published in August 2025 in the Journal

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of Dairy Science Communications. Right. So this

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isn't speculation. It's backed by credible peer

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-reviewed science, which is vital when we're

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discussing such potentially disruptive findings.

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Okay, let's truly unpack this. The executive

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summary from the article doesn't mince words.

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It drops some pretty remarkable numbers right

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off the bat. Yeah, it gets right to it. It claims

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these new BR2 short -stature corn hybrids are

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crushing BMR in the feed bunk. Now, crushing

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is a strong word. But when you look at the raw

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data, it's hard to argue. It becomes incredibly

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difficult to argue with the sentiment. Yeah.

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It really does. We're talking about an impressive

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8 % higher dry matter intake for cows on BR2

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silage compared to those on BMR. 8%. That's huge.

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But what's truly significant is that this isn't

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just a number on a spreadsheet. That higher intake

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translates directly into a 3 .8 % increase in

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overall milk production. It's a compelling story

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playing out in the bulk tank. And that 3 .8 %

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increase isn't just an abstract percentage point.

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The article quantifies it for us, estimating

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it at roughly 2 .6 extra pounds of milk per cow

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daily. 2 .6 pounds. For a lot of producers, that's

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not just a statistic. It's a game changer for

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their bulk tank. day in and day out. Definitely.

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What also strikes me about that intake jump is

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the sheer metabolic drive it represents. An 8

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% higher DMI means cows were consuming over four

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pounds more dry matter daily when fed BR2. Over

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four pounds more feed? Wow! That's a massive

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amount of additional fuel driving a more productive

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engine. Absolutely. When you start connecting

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these numbers to your bottom line, the picture

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becomes even clearer. Yeah, let's talk money.

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The article suggests this increased production

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could inject an additional $1 .25 per cow daily

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into your operation. $1 .25 a cow. If you multiply

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that across your herd over a year, you're looking

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at nearly $400 annually per cow based on current

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market prices. And let's not overlook the potential

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for a significant protein bump, especially with

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protein prices hovering around, what, $1 .87

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per pound in many markets? Yeah, protein's valuable.

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That's real, tangible money that directly impacts

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your profitability and could easily justify considering

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this new forage. What truly makes these findings

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even more remarkable and honestly a bit eyebrow

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-raising is the context in which this trial took

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place. Right, the conditions. This was during

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the 2023 Michigan corn year, which, as many dairy

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producers painfully remember, was characterized

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by a severe and brutal drought. Oh yeah, that

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was tough. Now, BMR corn, while excellent, often

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doesn't perform at its absolute best under such

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intense environmental stress. No, it can struggle.

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So for BR2 to not only hold its own, but actually

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show this kind of success and challenging drought

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-affected conditions, that to me is genuinely

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noteworthy and suggests a robust resilience.

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It does. It raises the question, could BR2's

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unique compact plant architecture, perhaps with

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a more efficient root system or less surface

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area for transpiration, be inherently more tolerant

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to water stress than the taller BMR hybrids?

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That's a good question. Something to watch. That's

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something worth watching in future research.

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And the cows involved were mid -lactation, averaging

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around 150 days in milk, not fresh cows. Right,

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not the fresh group. Typically, we see BMR shine

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brightest and offer its most pronounced advantages

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in those early lactation high -demand periods

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when cows are peaking and need maximum energy

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density and rapid passage. Exactly. Fresh cows

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need that kickstart. For BR2 to show such strong

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results in mid -lactation hints at a broader

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utility, suggesting it might be a valuable tool

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across different stages of the lactation curve,

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which is something we might not have initially

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assumed. That's interesting. And beyond the impressive

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feed bunk performance and milk increases, there's

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an agronomic advantage that's a real kicker for

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producers. Oh, yeah. What's that? The article

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highlights that BR2 hybrids also offer better

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standability in the field. Ah, standability.

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That's huge. This means a significantly reduced

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risk of lodging that dreaded situation where

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the corn stalks fall over and tangle, making

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harvest an absolute nightmare. Lodged corn is

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the worst. Anyone who's had to deal with tangled

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lodged corn knows the sheer frustration, time

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loss, and valuable silage tonnage sacrificed.

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The peace of mind alone that comes from better

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standability when the weather turns ugly is a

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substantial on -farm benefit. It truly is a double

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win, isn't it? better performance in the cow,

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and better resilience in the field, reducing

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harvest headaches and protecting your yield.

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Seems like it. But, as with anything that promises

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such significant upside, there are always a few

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practical trade -offs and hurdles to consider,

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and the executive summary is commendably upfront

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about them. Right, it's not all roses. It's not

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a magic bullet. You're right. The two main downsides

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highlighted are a slight drop in butterfat, about

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0 .13 percentage points. Okay, 0 .13 fat points.

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Which, while not massive, is certainly something

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to monitor very closely, especially if you're

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shipping to a plant with strict fat requirements.

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Definitely need to watch that. And then there's

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the big one. that need to budget for equipment

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modifications, an estimated $15 ,000 to $22 ,000

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per machine to handle the lower ear heights of

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BR2. Wow, $15 ,000 to $22 ,000 per machine. Yeah.

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While these are certainly significant considerations,

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the article posits that when you crunch the numbers,

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the overall economics still look pretty compelling,

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at least on paper. Okay, so the math might still

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work out. even with those costs. It's crucial

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to understand the scientific rigor behind this

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research. This wasn't some small -scale anecdotal

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observation on a handful of cows. No, it was

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proper study. Michigan State conducted a meticulously

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designed trial putting three different BR2 short

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spatcher hybrids head to head against Pioneer's

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P0956 AMX BMR, which is a widely recognized and

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high performing BMR hybrid. Yep, a good benchmark.

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As well as a conventional tall hybrid. They used

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40 mid lactation cows, rotating them through

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three 21 day periods. Standard crossover design.

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This kind of crossover design with multiple replicates

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is a fairly standard and a robust protocol for

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dairy nutrition work. adding significant credibility

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to the findings. And that rigor truly makes the

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author's personal admission even more impactful.

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The article mentions that when the author first

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saw Dr. Mike Van de Haar's initial numbers, their

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immediate thought was that there must have been

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a mistake somewhere in the data collection or

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analysis. Really? They thought it was an error.

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Yeah. That raw human reaction really highlights

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just how deeply entrenched BMR's reputation is

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as the ultimate silage, and how genuinely disruptive

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and unexpected these new BR2 findings truly are.

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Wow. It forces everyone in the industry to take

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a second, much closer look. So the production

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numbers are genuinely impressive, and they've

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certainly got everyone's attention. But here's

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where it gets really interesting, and frankly

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a bit puzzling for us as nutritionists and scientists.

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the article highlights a significant disconnect

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between what the standard lab tests predicted

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and what actually happened inside the cow. Ah,

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the lab versus cow disconnect. This is the big

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one. And that, to me, is the true head scratcher

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that might force us to rethink how we evaluate

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forage quality. Exactly. This is the part that

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has nutritionists everywhere scratching their

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heads, perhaps even questioning some of our core

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assumptions. I break it down. The pretrial lab

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work, conducted as we normally would, showed

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exactly what we've all come to expect. BMR absolutely

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crushed the competition for fiber digestibility,

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clocking in at an impressive 63 % IVND -FD after

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30 hours. 63 % IVND -FD for BMR? That sounds

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about right. Compare that to the BR2 hybrids,

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which range from just 57 % to 60%. OK, so quite

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a gap in the lab. Based purely on those lab numbers,

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any dairy nutritionist would confidently predict

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BMR to be the clear winner, driving superior

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intake and performance in the cow. Makes sense

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based on the standard metrics, but... But then,

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when they actually measured total tract digestibility

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in live cows, which is the real acid test of

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what nutrients the animal actually absorbs. Right.

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What the cow actually gets out of it. That lab

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advantage for BMR completely vanished. Vanished!

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Really? The NDF digestibility was essentially

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identical across the board. 45 .4 % for BMR and

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45 .2 % for BR2. Wow. Practically the same. The

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difference was statistically insignificant. Look,

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this isn't just a minor discrepancy. This fundamentally

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challenges a lot of our long -standing assumptions

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about how we evaluate forage quality and what

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truly drives performance in the animal. It really

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makes you wonder what we're missing, doesn't

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it? It really does. What's truly fascinating

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here is how this disconnect directly impacts

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our heavy reliance on 30 -hour IVNDFD numbers

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for forage purchasing decisions. Yeah, that 30

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-hour number is king. For years, that metric

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has been a go -to. often dictating premium prices

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for BMR. We put so much stock in that value,

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believing it's the ultimate predictor of how

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a forage will perform in the cow. But if actual

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total tract digestibility, the real world performance,

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tells a different story, it strongly suggests

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that we might be oversimplifying the biological

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process. So maybe that one lab value isn't the

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whole picture. Perhaps we're missing something

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more significant, a more complex interaction

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within the rumen and the... entire digestive

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tract that isn't fully captured by a single in

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vitro lab value. It absolutely raises a profoundly

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important question for the industry. Are we leaning

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too heavily on one lab test, perhaps ignoring

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the holistic living system of the cow? It kind

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of feels like it based on this. It implies that

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the cow herself is the ultimate most sophisticated

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laboratory and what happens in her unique room

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and environment and subsequent digestive tract

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is far more nuanced and complex than a snapshot

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of fiber degradation in a test tube. Yeah. This

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could mean a paradigm shift in how we approach

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forage breeding and evaluation moving forward.

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It really could. Let's let's really dig deeper

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into the parlor numbers because ultimately this

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is where producers make their money. and evaluate

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their free choices. Right, the proof is in the

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production. The article provides a clear daily

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production comparison that truly tells the story.

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For feed intake, BMR fed cows were at 24 .5 kilograms

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of dry matter per day. Okay, 24 .5 kilogram DMI

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for BMR. While the BR2 average soared to 26 .5

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kilograms. 26 .5 kilograms. That's an impressive

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8 .2 percent increase for BR2, meaning those

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cows were consuming over four pounds more feed

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daily. That's a huge difference in fuel. Wow,

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that intake difference is striking. And as we

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discussed, that higher intake directly translated

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to higher milk production. BMR fed cows produced

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32 .0 kilograms per day, while BR2 fed cows hit

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33 .2 kilograms per day. OK, so 32 versus 33

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.2 kilograms. That's a 3 .8 % increase or an

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additional 2 .6 pounds of milk per cow per day.

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For many operations, even a fraction of a pound

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makes a difference, so 2 .6 pounds is a significant

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boost to the bulk tank, especially when compounded

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across a large herd. Definitely noticeable. More

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importantly for today's market, where component

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premiums are king and milk protein is highly

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valued, milk protein yield saw a healthy and

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valuable bump. Protein's key. What were the numbers?

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BMR came in at $1 .10 kilograms per day, while

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BR2 produced 1 .15 kilograms per day, a 4 .5

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% increase. Nice bump in protein. With protein

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premiums sometimes reaching as high as $3 .50

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per hundred weight in certain markets, that increase

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isn't just significant, it's extremely valuable

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revenue that goes directly into your pocket.

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Yeah, that adds up quickly. It's a key reason

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why BR2's economic appeal is so strong. Now we

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do need to address the trade -off, and it's an

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important one, with milk fat. Ah yes, the fat

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percentage. The percentage dropped from 4 .45

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% on BMR to 4 .32 % on BR2. Okay, that .13 point

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drop. That .13 percentage point hit is certainly

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not nothing, as the article states, especially

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for operations dealing with very particular processing

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plants or quotas. You gotta watch your components.

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However, it's worth noting that due to the significantly

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higher milk volume from BR2, the total pounds

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of fat produced per cow actually remain quite

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similar between the two diets. So total pounds

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of fat were similar. That's important. Exactly.

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So while the percentage drops, the overall fat

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output in terms of total pounds was maintained,

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which is a crucial distinction. OK, good clarification.

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And here's another point that truly highlights

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the nuance and prevents us from seeing this as

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a simple winner takes all scenario. when we look

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at feed efficiency. Right, ECM per DMI. BMR still

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was the champion. It registered at 1 .51 ECM

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per unit of DMI compared to BR2's 1 .43. Oh,

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interesting. So BMR was more efficient. That's

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a 5 .3 % difference favoring BMR. So it's clearly

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not a simple case of BR2 being better across

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the board. No, definitely more complex. This

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disparity in efficiency, despite higher intake

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in production, points directly what the article

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calls two distinctly different feeding philosophies.

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OK, explain that. Different philosophies. What's

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truly fascinating here is that this isn't necessarily

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about declaring one forage better or worse than

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the other, but rather about recognizing that

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we now have different highly effective tools

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for different situations on the farm. Right,

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different tools for different jobs. BMR. with

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its demonstrated higher efficiency, and the Michigan

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State data showing BMR cows maintaining slightly

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better body condition. Better body condition

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with BMR? Truly seems built for efficiency and

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condition maintenance. This could make it an

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ideal choice for specific groups, like fresh

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cows that need to recover body condition quickly

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while still producing at a high level. Its rapid

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passage rate is crucial here. Okay, so BMR for

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fresh cows, maybe. Where efficiency and condition

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are paramount. Exactly. If you're focusing on

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those critical early lactation animals, where

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every pound of body condition matters not just

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for current production, but for future reproductive

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success and overall health. Right. BMR's characteristics

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that efficient nutrient utilization and maintenance

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of condition might be precisely what you need

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in that phase. It helps them maintain that delicate

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balance and sets them up for success throughout

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lactation. On the other hand, BR2 really looks

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like a high throughput production driver. Yeah,

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push the intake, push the milk. It's allowing

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cows to consume more feed, which is then translated

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into significantly more milk and valuable components.

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This could be particularly well suited for well

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-conditioned cows in mid to late lactation, where

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your primary goal shifts slightly from conditioned

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recovery to maximizing component output and driving

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that bulk tank number. Right. Cows that can handle

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the higher intake. These cows are already stable

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and you want to push them for maximum yield.

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It's about tailoring your forage strategy, providing

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a more refined approach to precision nutrition

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based on the specific needs and goals for different

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groups within your herd. Yeah, makes sense. More

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tools in the toolbox. It's not a one size fits

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all solution, but rather an expanded and more

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specialized toolbox that allows for more sophisticated

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management. And the researchers, to their credit,

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were incredibly refreshing and honest about why

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BMR might have stumbled in this particular trial.

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Yeah, they didn't hide the context. This transparency

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is incredibly valuable for interpreting the results

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and understanding how they might or might not

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apply to your own operation. It's a vital piece

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of the puzzle. First, and we briefly touched

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on this, it was a 2023 Michigan corn year, which

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was a brutal drought year. Right. The drought

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factor again? This intense environmental stress

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likely impacted BMR more severely than the more

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structurally robust Br2 hybrids. Okay. As many

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producers know, drought -stressed BMR can become

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extremely challenging both agronomically in terms

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of standability and harvestability and nutritionally,

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where the benefits of reduced lignin can be overshadowed

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by overall plant stress when water is scarce.

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Yeah, drought BMR can be tough. Its genetic advantages

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might be compromised in such extreme conditions.

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Second, these were mid -lactation cows, averaging

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150 days in milk, not fresh cows. Right, we covered

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that. In mid -lactation, animals aren't typically

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as constrained by physical fill as they are in

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early lactation when they're rapidly ramping

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up intake. So BMR's signature faster passage

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rate, which is a huge advantage for clearing

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the rumen and allowing more feed intake in fresh

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cows, might not have provided the same significant

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benefit in these mid -lactation animals whose

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appetites are already well established and less

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physically restricted. The need just wasn't as

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great, maybe. The physiological need simply isn't

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as acute. Third, and this is a crucial detail

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that highlights the complexity of research. Okay,

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what's this? When the herd switched from their

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normal diet to the study diets, both intake and

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milk yield dropped by 3 .6 and 4 .8 kilograms

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per day, respectively, across all groups. Oh,

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wow. So production dropped when they went on

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to the study diets. Yeah, for everyone. This

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suggests the experimental diets, despite careful

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formulation, might not have been perfectly optimal

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or palatable for these specific cows. This general

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stress response or dietary challenge could have

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potentially masked some of BMR's usual advantages,

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or perhaps even limited the full expression of

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BIA2's potential, making it harder to discern

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specific dietary effects. That's a really important

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caveat because it underscores that even in a

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highly controlled research setting, external

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factors and dietary transitions can influence

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outcomes. Absolutely. Additionally, the study

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didn't include mycotoxin analysis. Ah, no myco

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data. In a drought year, particularly one as

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severe as 2023, mycotoxin contamination is always

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a concern. Big concern in drought years. The

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absence of this analysis leaves an important

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question unanswered, especially when unexpected

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intake patterns are observed. It's a piece of

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the puzzle that's missing and could have impacted

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the overall health and performance of the cows

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on any of the diets. Yeah, that would have been

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good to know. This trial, despite its remarkable

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findings, perfectly illustrates why, as an industry,

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we absolutely cannot solely rely on isolated

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lab numbers or even single -location trial results.

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It's never that simple, is it? Real cows, real

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environmental stresses, and real -world management

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constraints. They all interact in complex ways

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and matter far more than we sometimes admit.

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The lab provides a valuable starting point. A

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hypothesis. But the farm, with all its variables,

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provides the ultimate undeniable truth about

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what truly performs. So the cow performance data

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is compelling, and it definitely paints an intriguing

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picture for the future of forage. It does. But

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here's the reality check we mentioned earlier.

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The article is also very clear that BR2 isn't

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a plug and play solution. You can just seamlessly

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drop into your existing system without forethought.

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Nope. Definitely not plug -and -play. There's

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a significant elephant in the machine shed we

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absolutely need to talk about. The equipment

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required for harvest. That's right. The harvest

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challenges for BR2 are substantial, primarily

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due to its defining characteristic, those significantly

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lower ear heights. Right, the short stature means

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low ears. Industry sources are reporting BR2

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ear heights ranging from 20 to 26 inches, which

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is considerably lower than the typical 34 to

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40 inches we see for conventional or BMR models.

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Wow, that's a big difference 20 -26 versus 34

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-40 inches. This isn't just a minor adjustment.

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It often forces existing headers to operate well

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below their normal designed operating range,

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which creates a host of issues. And this distance

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isn't trivial in terms of cost or logistics.

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Based on conversations with equipment dealers

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across the Midwest, preliminary estimates for

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necessary header modifications are running a

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hefty $15 ,000 to $22 ,000 per machine for older

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equipment. Oof. 15 to 22 grand per machine. Even

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newer machines will require significant setup

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changes and potentially slower ground speeds,

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especially during that initial learning curve.

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It's not just old equipment. It's a substantial

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upfront investment that can't be ignored when

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you're looking at the full ROI. It's a truly

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significant upfront investment, as you said.

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And early adopters have emphasized budgeting

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not just money, but also extra time for adjustments

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during harvest. Right. Time is money, too. Expect

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some initial learning curve losses in that first

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year. You need to get your settings meticulously

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dialed in correctly. And that takes time, patience,

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and effort. It's definitely not something you

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want to be figuring out on the fly when the weather

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window is closing fast and every hour counts.

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This can impact your overall harvest efficiency

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and profitability. To help minimize harvest losses,

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which can eat into those potential gains, the

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article details a practical loss check protocol.

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Yeah. Gotta check your losses. It's pretty straightforward

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but absolutely essential. You need to stop periodically

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during chopping and physically count years behind

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the header across several transects. Get out

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look. Then weigh those measured swaths to accurately

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estimate your actual loss percentages. This gives

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you concrete data to work with. And based on

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those findings you immediately adjust your deck

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plates, your stout angles, and your header height

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accordingly. Check and adjust, check and adjust.

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It's an iterative process and Critically, you

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should be targeting kernel processing scores

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above 70 % on your standard lab analysis. Gotta

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crack those kernels! This isn't just about getting

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the corn off the field, it's about getting it

00:26:41.309 --> 00:26:44.650
off efficiently and processed optimally, so those

00:26:44.650 --> 00:26:47.190
valuable kernels are fully available to the cow,

00:26:47.549 --> 00:26:50.490
not passing through undigested. Makes sense.

00:26:51.309 --> 00:26:53.329
Beyond the harvest, we absolutely need to talk

00:26:53.329 --> 00:26:56.009
about ration management, specifically protecting

00:26:56.009 --> 00:26:58.009
butterfat. Right, back to that fat percentage.

00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:01.500
That .13 percentage point drop in milk fat we

00:27:01.500 --> 00:27:04.339
discussed earlier isn't just a number. It adds

00:27:04.339 --> 00:27:07.200
up fast, especially with current component pricing

00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.759
structures. It sure does. This makes getting

00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.099
your nutritionist involved early and deeply in

00:27:12.099 --> 00:27:14.779
the conversation an absolute necessity if you're

00:27:14.779 --> 00:27:17.799
even contemplating trialing BR2 silage. Yeah,

00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:19.980
call your nutritionist first thing. They will

00:27:19.980 --> 00:27:22.940
be your co -pilot in navigating this. The enhanced

00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:25.460
starch digestibility of BR2 means potentially

00:27:25.460 --> 00:27:27.859
faster and more vigorous rumen fermentation.

00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:30.039
Okay, faster fermentation. While this can be

00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:32.619
good for energy, it also requires careful monitoring.

00:27:33.259 --> 00:27:35.420
You'll want your nutritionist to watch your physically

00:27:35.420 --> 00:27:40.200
effective NDF, BNDF levels, very closely to ensure

00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.920
adequate rumen health and function. Keep an eye

00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:45.680
on PennNDF. If fermentation happens too quickly,

00:27:46.019 --> 00:27:48.980
rumen pH can drop, impacting fiber digestion

00:27:48.980 --> 00:27:51.680
and potentially leading to acidosis or milk fat

00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.579
depression. Monitor fecal starch like a hawk

00:27:55.579 --> 00:27:58.259
during any transition periods as it's a direct

00:27:58.259 --> 00:28:00.740
indicator of how well that starch is being utilized

00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:03.720
and whether it's too rapidly fermentable or simply

00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.319
passing through. Fecal starch checks. Got it.

00:28:06.619 --> 00:28:09.019
And to prevent exacerbating milk fat depression

00:28:09.019 --> 00:28:11.359
issues, you might need to consider adjusting

00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.019
buffer levels in the diet based on real -time

00:28:14.019 --> 00:28:16.680
room and pH patterns. Adjust buffels. And carefully

00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.099
monitor the total unsaturated fatty acid load

00:28:19.099 --> 00:28:22.099
in the ration, as excessive levels can also depress

00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:24.640
butterfact. Okay, watch the fatty acids too.

00:28:24.779 --> 00:28:26.740
It's a holistic approach to managing room and

00:28:26.740 --> 00:28:29.470
function and balancing the entire diet. The good

00:28:29.470 --> 00:28:31.869
news though is that the protein response was

00:28:31.869 --> 00:28:34.950
consistently solid across all three BR2 hybrids

00:28:34.950 --> 00:28:37.369
tested. That's good news on protein. Which in

00:28:37.369 --> 00:28:39.750
today's market with those high protein premiums

00:28:39.750 --> 00:28:42.089
really matters and helps offset any fat concerns.

00:28:42.230 --> 00:28:44.750
So let's talk economics, the real numbers for

00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:47.109
2025 because this is where the rubber meets the

00:28:47.109 --> 00:28:49.430
road for every producer. Yep. Time to crunch

00:28:49.430 --> 00:28:52.109
the numbers. If BR2 consistently gets you an

00:28:52.109 --> 00:28:55.190
extra 2 .6 pounds of milk daily, and assuming

00:28:55.190 --> 00:28:58.710
protein premiums hold strong around $3 .50 per

00:28:58.710 --> 00:29:02.009
100 weight in many markets, that could translate

00:29:02.009 --> 00:29:05.869
to roughly $1 .25 per cow per day in additional

00:29:05.869 --> 00:29:08.509
revenue. $1 .25 a day, that's that number again.

00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.279
That's a powerful incentive, assuming you can

00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.779
navigate the butterfat considerations and maintain

00:29:13.779 --> 00:29:16.460
your overall component standards. Big assumption,

00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.059
but powerful number. But you absolutely cannot

00:29:19.059 --> 00:29:21.099
look at just the revenue side of the equation.

00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.900
You must realistically budget for the additional

00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:26.039
costs involved. Right. Gotta look at the expense

00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.059
side. Seed premiums for BR2 hybrids are generally

00:29:29.059 --> 00:29:32.839
15 -25 % higher per bag compared to conventional

00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.279
or BMR, though this can vary by seed company

00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.460
and specific hybrid. Okay, seed's more expensive.

00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.059
You also likely need higher planting populations,

00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.279
typically in the range of 38 ,000 to 42 ,000

00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.549
plants per acre. compared to the conventional

00:29:45.549 --> 00:29:48.589
$32 ,000 to $36 ,000. Higher pops, too. Which

00:29:48.589 --> 00:29:51.069
means more seed costs per acre. Then there are

00:29:51.069 --> 00:29:53.230
the substantial equipment modifications we discussed.

00:29:53.730 --> 00:29:57.890
Those $15 ,000 to $22 ,000 per machine, which

00:29:57.890 --> 00:30:00.049
need to be amortized over their useful life,

00:30:00.349 --> 00:30:02.730
but still represent a significant capital outlay.

00:30:03.130 --> 00:30:05.509
That equipment cost is a biggie. And let's not

00:30:05.509 --> 00:30:09.119
forget the soft learning curve costs. Potential

00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.920
harvest losses even have minimized and slower

00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.099
ground speeds, especially in that first year,

00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:16.720
which translates to increased labor and fuel

00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.559
costs per acre harvested. Right, the hidden costs

00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.039
of learning. These are very real expenses that

00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.339
can quickly erode profits if not accounted for.

00:30:24.660 --> 00:30:27.599
The article uses an example of a 500 cow operation

00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:31.140
with 800 acres of corn silage. Okay, decent size

00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:33.460
operation. For an operation of that size, you're

00:30:33.460 --> 00:30:35.880
looking at a truly significant upfront investment

00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.640
when you combine all these factors. The economics

00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.220
can certainly work and look very appealing, but

00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:43.500
only if you achieve the full production response

00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:45.700
shown in the Michigan State trial. Yeah, gotta

00:30:45.700 --> 00:30:47.359
hit those numbers. There's little margin for

00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.319
error here, so careful planning, meticulous execution,

00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.160
and discipline tracking are absolutely paramount

00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.839
to ensure a positive ROI. So if you're listening

00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:58.240
to all this fascinating data and thinking about

00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:01.359
diving into B or two, the article provides some

00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:05.319
really clear, practical guidance on how to trial

00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:09.539
it correctly for 2025. Okay, actionable advice

00:31:09.539 --> 00:31:12.920
time. It emphasizes starting smart, being methodical,

00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.819
and documenting absolutely everything. This isn't

00:31:15.819 --> 00:31:17.960
the flip a switch whole farm conversion decision.

00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.019
No, got to ease into it, Hal. Absolutely. The

00:31:21.019 --> 00:31:23.460
advice is to plant a manageable trial acreage,

00:31:23.819 --> 00:31:27.299
perhaps 50 to 100 acres of BR2 right alongside

00:31:27.299 --> 00:31:30.359
your current hybrid and ideally in the same soil

00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.619
zone. Side -by -side trial. Makes sense. This

00:31:32.619 --> 00:31:35.359
minimizes variables and allows for a direct side

00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:37.460
-by -side comparison. When it comes to harvest,

00:31:37.819 --> 00:31:41.279
aim for a dry matter content of 32 -35 % and

00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.099
make sure your processor is dialed in tight.

00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.019
Get that processing score up. You're looking

00:31:45.019 --> 00:31:47.359
for kernel processing scores above 70 % on your

00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:50.180
standard lab analysis to maximize starch availability.

00:31:50.380 --> 00:31:52.319
And set your theoretical length of cut between

00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.940
17 and 22 millimeters based on your specific

00:31:54.940 --> 00:31:56.920
pin DF goals for your ration. Right, get the

00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.380
chop length right too. This meticulous approach

00:31:59.380 --> 00:32:02.359
to harvest and processing is truly crucial for

00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.539
unlocking the full nutritional potential of this

00:32:04.539 --> 00:32:06.940
silage. This isn't just about getting it off

00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:08.980
the field, it's about getting it ready for the

00:32:08.980 --> 00:32:11.519
rumen. What's truly not optional for making an

00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:14.920
informed decision about expanding BR2 acres is

00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.640
meticulous tracking. To track the data, what

00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.119
specifically? You need to closely track dry matter

00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.960
intake, DMI, milk yield, energy corrected milk,

00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.680
ECM, butterfat percentage in total pounds, milk

00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.079
protein percentage in total pounds, and even

00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:34.380
fecal starch for at least three to four weeks

00:32:34.380 --> 00:32:36.900
minimum after introducing it. Okay, track everything.

00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.859
This comprehensive data is your compass for making

00:32:39.859 --> 00:32:42.359
scientifically sound future decisions, allowing

00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.599
you to see if those promising trial results are

00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.859
replicating on your farm. Before you even think

00:32:46.859 --> 00:32:49.259
about planting next spring, there's a vital pre

00:32:49.259 --> 00:32:51.380
-planting checklist to tackle. Okay, homework

00:32:51.380 --> 00:32:53.859
before planting. First, get definitive answers

00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:56.220
from your equipment dealers on header modifications

00:32:56.220 --> 00:32:59.259
and their actual costs for your specific harvesters.

00:32:59.460 --> 00:33:02.640
Nail down those equipment costs. Second, confirm

00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.000
seed availability and population recommendations

00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.680
for your area, as new genetics can sometimes

00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.539
be in high demand. Check seed supply. Good point.

00:33:10.980 --> 00:33:14.390
Third, Budget meticulously for those higher seed

00:33:14.390 --> 00:33:17.849
costs and increase planting populations. And

00:33:17.849 --> 00:33:20.650
crucially, map out your most uniform field for

00:33:20.650 --> 00:33:23.269
the trial. Pick a good, even field. You want

00:33:23.269 --> 00:33:26.089
to eliminate as many confounding variables as

00:33:26.089 --> 00:33:29.430
possible to get a clear, unbiased picture of

00:33:29.430 --> 00:33:32.269
BR2's performance on your farm. The key thing

00:33:32.269 --> 00:33:34.470
everyone's learning is that header setup and

00:33:34.470 --> 00:33:37.230
ground speed matter more with BR2 than they ever

00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:39.269
have for conventional corn. Really got to dial

00:33:39.269 --> 00:33:41.230
in that harvest. You'll want to start with low

00:33:41.230 --> 00:33:43.630
profile snouts, if available, and ensure your

00:33:43.630 --> 00:33:46.410
deck plates are set tighter. Responsive header

00:33:46.410 --> 00:33:49.029
height control is also critical, and this is

00:33:49.029 --> 00:33:51.630
vital. Establish a lost check routine before

00:33:51.630 --> 00:33:54.049
you start chopping. Don't wait until you're halfway

00:33:54.049 --> 00:33:55.730
through the field to realize you're leaving money

00:33:55.730 --> 00:33:58.210
on the ground. Check losses early and often.

00:33:58.529 --> 00:34:00.269
Proactive management here will save you a lot

00:34:00.269 --> 00:34:02.509
of headaches, frustration, and lost tonnage,

00:34:02.750 --> 00:34:05.589
which directly impacts your bottom line. As compelling

00:34:05.589 --> 00:34:07.789
as these Michigan State results are, the article

00:34:07.789 --> 00:34:09.849
readily acknowledges that we're still working

00:34:09.849 --> 00:34:12.489
with limited data. Yeah, it's just one study

00:34:12.489 --> 00:34:15.570
really. This initial work is solid, truly foundational,

00:34:15.710 --> 00:34:19.090
but it's one trial. from one specific year under

00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:21.809
a particular set of conditions. Right. To truly

00:34:21.809 --> 00:34:24.889
understand the full comprehensive picture of

00:34:24.889 --> 00:34:27.590
BR2's potential, we still need to know a lot

00:34:27.590 --> 00:34:30.030
more before widespread adoption. Absolutely.

00:34:30.469 --> 00:34:33.469
We need more data points. Specifically, we urgently

00:34:33.469 --> 00:34:37.070
need early lactation data. This is where BMR

00:34:37.070 --> 00:34:39.889
typically shows its biggest, most critical advantages

00:34:39.889 --> 00:34:42.630
for cows under immense metabolic stress. Yep.

00:34:42.750 --> 00:34:45.010
The fresh cow question is huge. Understanding

00:34:45.010 --> 00:34:47.750
how BR2 performs in this phase is paramount.

00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:50.969
We also need multi -location trials across different

00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:53.630
climates, soil types, and management systems.

00:34:53.969 --> 00:34:55.789
Right. Michigan isn't everywhere. What works

00:34:55.789 --> 00:34:57.969
exceptionally well in Michigan might not translate

00:34:57.969 --> 00:35:00.650
directly to, say, the dry conditions of the southwest

00:35:00.650 --> 00:35:03.389
or the humid environments of the southeast. Each

00:35:03.389 --> 00:35:05.650
region presents its own unique challenges and

00:35:05.650 --> 00:35:08.250
opportunities for forage performance. And perhaps

00:35:08.250 --> 00:35:11.389
most importantly, we need performance data. from

00:35:11.389 --> 00:35:14.329
actual commercial dairies, not just research

00:35:14.329 --> 00:35:16.230
facilities where conditions are typically more

00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:18.329
controlled and optimized. Real world results.

00:35:18.690 --> 00:35:21.150
That's key. Real world farms face equipment limitations,

00:35:21.710 --> 00:35:24.690
labor challenges, variable weather, and daily

00:35:24.690 --> 00:35:27.329
economic pressures that can significantly influence

00:35:27.329 --> 00:35:30.679
outcomes. How does BR2 perform when everything

00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.039
isn't perfectly managed? Yeah, that's the real

00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:35.219
test. This is where the rubber truly meets the

00:35:35.219 --> 00:35:37.820
road. This need for more diverse data is powerfully

00:35:37.820 --> 00:35:40.440
highlighted by the contrasting Italian work mentioned

00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.840
in the MSU paper. Oh yeah, the Italian study.

00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.559
That research, apparently using different BR2

00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.300
genetics or under vastly different environmental

00:35:48.300 --> 00:35:51.059
and management conditions, found no effects on

00:35:51.059 --> 00:35:55.170
DMI, ECM, or body weight. from BR2. Wow, completely

00:35:55.170 --> 00:35:56.849
different results. That's a pretty different

00:35:56.849 --> 00:35:58.889
story from Michigan's remarkable results and

00:35:58.889 --> 00:36:01.730
it makes you really ponder just how significant

00:36:01.730 --> 00:36:04.809
genotype by environment GXE interactions are.

00:36:04.809 --> 00:36:08.389
Big time. And how much location specific genetics

00:36:08.389 --> 00:36:11.650
and local management truly matter in expressing

00:36:11.650 --> 00:36:15.110
these traits. It suggests these aren't universal

00:36:15.110 --> 00:36:17.949
plug and play findings. It's also an incredibly

00:36:17.949 --> 00:36:21.570
important caveat that these results pertain specifically

00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.500
to the BR2 genetics used in this Michigan State

00:36:25.500 --> 00:36:28.400
trial. Right. Not all short corn is the same.

00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.079
Not all short stature corn is created equal.

00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:33.760
Other short stature platforms using different

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.679
genetic mechanisms or breeding approaches may

00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.119
not deliver the same performance benefit. So

00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:42.159
don't assume that any short corn hybrid will

00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.340
give you these same impressive results. You need

00:36:44.340 --> 00:36:46.039
to know exactly what genetics you're planting

00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.940
and what data backs that specific hybrid. Looking

00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:50.880
ahead, what's coming down the pike to help fill

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.590
these data gaps? Well, Penn State and Cornell,

00:36:54.050 --> 00:36:56.230
two highly respected dairy research institutions,

00:36:56.769 --> 00:36:58.750
are reportedly planning trials for next year.

00:36:58.969 --> 00:37:01.610
OK, more research coming. This is fantastic news,

00:37:01.949 --> 00:37:03.789
as it should definitely help fill in the picture

00:37:03.789 --> 00:37:06.190
with more diverse data from different regions,

00:37:06.429 --> 00:37:07.690
different climates, and different management

00:37:07.690 --> 00:37:10.719
systems. That multi -state, multi -environmental

00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.699
data will be invaluable for broader industry

00:37:13.699 --> 00:37:16.559
adoption decisions. And the most intriguing possibility

00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.760
on the distant horizon, something that truly

00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:22.079
sparks the imagination, is the potential of combining

00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:27.949
BR2 with BM3 genetics. Ooh, BR2 plus BM3. This,

00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:30.070
theoretically, could achieve the best of both

00:37:30.070 --> 00:37:33.190
worlds. Both the improved standability and compact

00:37:33.190 --> 00:37:36.469
architecture of BR2, and the even further enhanced

00:37:36.469 --> 00:37:39.469
digestibility of BM3. Wow, that would be something.

00:37:39.730 --> 00:37:41.570
If successfully developed, this could create

00:37:41.570 --> 00:37:44.670
a truly robust and incredibly high -performing

00:37:44.670 --> 00:37:47.630
hybrid that addresses multiple challenges simultaneously.

00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:49.829
But that's still very much in development, so

00:37:49.829 --> 00:37:51.510
it's something to watch for in the future with

00:37:51.510 --> 00:37:53.809
keen interest. Yeah, one to keep an eye on for

00:37:53.809 --> 00:37:55.800
sure. Ultimately, what we really need moving

00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.300
forward is honest, transparent, and detailed

00:37:58.300 --> 00:38:00.360
feedback from commercial producers who are willing

00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.599
to try these hybrids under real world conditions.

00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:04.800
Right, need that farmer feedback. University

00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.699
trials are fantastic and provide critical foundational

00:38:07.699 --> 00:38:09.840
data, but they don't always capture the full

00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.980
reality of tight harvest windows, equipment limitations,

00:38:13.619 --> 00:38:16.039
unpredictable weather, and the daily economic

00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.440
pressures that actual farms face. That commercial

00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.559
validation is the next critical step for BR2.

00:38:23.869 --> 00:38:25.949
to distill all this down to the bottom line for

00:38:25.949 --> 00:38:29.000
your operation. Three things truly stand out

00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:30.940
from this groundbreaking work that matter for

00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:33.860
your 2025 decisions. Okay, let's summarize. First,

00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.039
the production potential appears to be genuinely

00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.019
real based on Michigan State's data. We're talking

00:38:39.019 --> 00:38:41.719
about a four plus pound higher daily dry matter

00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.519
intake and meaningful milk protein increases

00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:48.440
that could translate to a compelling $1, $1 .25

00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.679
per cow daily in additional revenue with current

00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.179
pricing. The upside looks real. That is a powerful

00:38:54.179 --> 00:38:56.780
upside that demands attention. Second, the equipment

00:38:56.780 --> 00:38:59.159
challenges are significant, unavoidable, and

00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.500
expensive. Can't ignore the cost. You need to

00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:05.119
budget $15 ,000 to $22 ,000 per machine for older

00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:07.980
equipment modifications, plus you much realistically

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:10.480
factor in a learning curve on harvest management.

00:39:10.940 --> 00:39:13.059
This isn't just about swapping out a seed variety.

00:39:13.619 --> 00:39:15.840
It's a fundamental shift in how you might harvest

00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.099
your corn silage, and it demands upfront investment

00:39:19.099 --> 00:39:22.320
and careful planning. And third, this is definitively

00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.719
not a plug -and -play technology. Needs management.

00:39:24.829 --> 00:39:27.170
It requires proactive nutritional management,

00:39:27.489 --> 00:39:29.610
particularly focused on protecting butterfat

00:39:29.610 --> 00:39:32.230
and optimizing room and health. It demands careful

00:39:32.230 --> 00:39:35.389
monitoring and a willingness to adjust rations

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to fully maximize those intake advantages while

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avoiding potential pitfalls. Right. It's a system

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change, not just a simple product swap, and it

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requires a dedicated, informed approach. So what's

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your strategic move for 2025? Yeah, what should

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listeners do? If you're running newer equipment,

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Have the financial flexibility for some calculated

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experimentation and a strong relationship with

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your nutritionist. A 50 to 100 acre trial of

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BR2 makes a lot of sense. Okay, for some folks

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a trial makes sense. Start with your most uniform

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field. Get your nutritionist deeply involved

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from day one to manage the ration and document

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absolutely everything meticulously. That data

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will be your most reliable guide for future decisions.

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But for most operations... For most operations,

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especially those with older equipment, tighter

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margins, or simply a lower appetite for risk,

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I'd lean towards watching and waiting. Let's

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see more diverse research results from other

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regions and gather more real -world feedback

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from those early adopters. Allow someone else

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to work through the initial learning curve first,

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and then you can make a more informed decision

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with less financial and operational risk. Patients

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might be wise here patients can definitely pay

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off here what I'm really watching for and what

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this deep dive has profoundly highlighted for

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me is how the striking disconnect between lab

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predictions and actual cow performance challenges

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our fundamental assumptions about how we evaluate

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forages. That lab versus cow thing again? It's

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huge! If Br2 corn can consistently deliver higher

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intake and milk production while maintaining

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those crucial agronomic advantages across varied

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environments, it could fundamentally reshape

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our entire approach to corn genetics, breeding

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programs, and even our scientific metrics for

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forage quality. This might indeed be the start

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of a significant paradigm shift, pushing us towards

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breeding for more balanced genetics that perform

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consistently and robustly across varied conditions

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and management systems. Right, breeding for resilience.

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Rather than simply chasing a single isolated

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trait like ultra -low lignin. That kind of inherent

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robustness and resilience is precisely what our

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industry needs as weather patterns become increasingly

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unpredictable and economic pressures continue

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to mount, making every decision on the farm that

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much more critical. So after all that incredible

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detail, what's the key takeaway, the most actionable

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insight for farmer listening today? Okay, boil

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down. For you, the farmer, the article really

00:41:59.949 --> 00:42:02.590
boils down to three core actionable insights

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you can apply right now. All right, number one.

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One, evaluate the ROI with open eyes. The production

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potential of BR2 is significant and exciting,

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but you must factor in the substantial equipment

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modification costs and increased seed expenses.

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Don't just look at the potential for more milk

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per cow. Look at your total budget and the full

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financial picture, including those initial capital

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outlays and potential learning curve costs. Okay,

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see the whole picture, costs included. Number

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2. Nutritional partnership is non -negotiable.

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If you decide to trial BR2, bring your nutritionist

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into the conversation from day one, even before

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you planned. Protecting butterfat, optimizing

00:42:40.289 --> 00:42:42.849
room and health, and managing those faster fermentation

00:42:42.849 --> 00:42:45.130
dynamics will be absolutely critical to realizing

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the full component premium benefits and avoiding

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potential pitfalls that could negate your gains.

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Get your nutritionist involved early. Makes sense.

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And number three. Three. Start small and document

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everything. This is not a wholesale switch for

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2025. If you're going to try it, allocate a manageable

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trial acreage, say 5 ,100 acres, choose your

00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:08.469
most uniform field, and meticulously track every

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relevant metric, DMI, milk components, and even

00:43:11.789 --> 00:43:14.730
harvest losses. This comprehensive farm -specific

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data is your compass for making sound future

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decisions, allowing you to scale up confidently

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or re -evaluate. Start small, track everything.

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Got it. Great points. And that's all the time

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we have for today's deep dive into this fascinating

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research. For more articles and insights, be

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