WEBVTT 00:00:06.199 --> 00:00:08.720 All right. Hello and welcome to "Hanging Out with 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:13.839 Bob," a podcast hosted by me, Bob Edholm. Thanks 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:18.199 for joining us and let's get started. "Hangin' 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:20.600 Out with Bob" is a podcast where guests tell us 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:22.960 their stories, where they grew up, where they've 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:25.660 lived since then, what they're doing now. which 00:00:25.660 --> 00:00:27.800 kinds of shows they stream, which kinds of books 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:30.179 they read, which teams they cheer for, the kind 00:00:30.179 --> 00:00:32.420 of music they like to listen to, and so on, and 00:00:32.420 --> 00:00:34.939 so on, and so on. And the more laughs we have 00:00:34.939 --> 00:00:36.840 as our guests share their lives, their stories 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:43.299 with us, the better. Okay, so let me introduce 00:00:43.299 --> 00:00:46.460 my guest today. He's Wayne Damerow, a friend and 00:00:46.460 --> 00:00:48.259 former classmate that I've known since we were 00:00:48.259 --> 00:00:50.560 both nine years old. And we're a heck of a lot 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:55.079 older now than aren't we, Wayne? Thanks for joining 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:56.880 us though, Wayne. Good to have you here. Sure, 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.539 glad to be here, Bob. Wayne Damerow, and for those 00:00:59.539 --> 00:01:01.259 of you writing us down at home, his last name 00:01:01.259 --> 00:01:04.700 is spelled D-A M-E-R-O-W. That's Italian, 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:10.540 right? German all the way. Wayne and I have known 00:01:10.540 --> 00:01:13.439 each other for more than 62 years. I mean, John 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:15.599 F. Kennedy was president of the United States 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:20.439 then back in the early 1960s. Wayne lived just 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:22.819 six houses up the block from me on Chatham Road 00:01:22.819 --> 00:01:25.400 in Columbia Heights, Minnesota. And anyone from 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:26.959 Columbia Heights, of course, usually shorten 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.719 the name of our town to just the Heights. Anyway, 00:01:30.819 --> 00:01:34.280 it was summertime 1962 and we probably met by 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.700 playing baseball at the local park, Hilltop Park. 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:38.659 That's the park where the kids in our neighborhood 00:01:38.659 --> 00:01:41.120 played baseball and football, pick -up games, 00:01:41.340 --> 00:01:43.420 of course. We skated there, too, in the winter 00:01:43.420 --> 00:01:45.519 when the city park board would flood the rink. 00:01:46.060 --> 00:01:47.900 Wayne and I, we went to the same grade school, 00:01:48.099 --> 00:01:50.560 Highland, the same junior high school, Columbia, 00:01:51.099 --> 00:01:53.280 and the same senior high school, Columbia Heights. 00:01:53.620 --> 00:01:56.640 We're Hylanders. We even went to the same community 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:58.900 college the first year after high school, Anoka 00:01:58.900 --> 00:02:01.500 -Ramsey, or AR, in the northern suburb of Coon 00:02:01.500 --> 00:02:04.299 Rapids. And not to get too anal retentive, but 00:02:04.299 --> 00:02:07.079 when Wayne and I went to Anoka-Ramsey, AR, it 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.479 was still called a junior college, not a community 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.639 college like it is today. But Wayne and I really 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:13.460 didn't see much of each other after that year 00:02:13.460 --> 00:02:16.120 at Anoka-Ramsey. He transferred to the University 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:18.520 of Minnesota's St. Paul campus the next year. Well, 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.180 I finished my second year at Anoka-Ramsey and 00:02:21.180 --> 00:02:23.199 then transferred to the University of Minnesota 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.580 on the East and West Bank campuses in Minneapolis. 00:02:26.060 --> 00:02:27.819 I remember seeing Wayne at a couple of our high 00:02:27.819 --> 00:02:29.979 school reunions. I think it was the 10th and 00:02:29.979 --> 00:02:32.979 the 20th, but really not too many times from 00:02:32.979 --> 00:02:36.840 then, from say the late 1970s until the 2010s. 00:02:37.259 --> 00:02:39.259 We reconnected, if that's the right word, about 00:02:39.259 --> 00:02:41.280 a dozen years ago and since then we've managed 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:43.680 to keep in touch every six months or so, maybe 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.240 a year, usually for lunch somewhere on a Saturday 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:48.780 afternoon to catch up on things, maybe talk about 00:02:48.780 --> 00:02:51.759 Minnesota sports and solve all the world's problems. 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:55.979 And that's been a good thing. If we hadn't reconnected 00:02:55.979 --> 00:02:58.020 more than a decade ago, we probably wouldn't 00:02:58.020 --> 00:02:59.759 be doing this podcast right now, Wayne, right? 00:02:59.900 --> 00:03:02.219 Right. All right. So now I'm going to step back 00:03:02.219 --> 00:03:04.460 for a few moments and I'm going to let my guest, 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.199 Wayne Damro, tell us a little bit about himself. 00:03:07.500 --> 00:03:10.139 Oh, wait, wait, sorry, Wayne. I mentioned how 00:03:10.139 --> 00:03:11.900 the kids in our neighborhood used to ice skate 00:03:11.900 --> 00:03:14.780 at the local park when we were kids. Well, here's 00:03:14.780 --> 00:03:18.020 a lame joke. Why did the ice skater go to the 00:03:18.020 --> 00:03:25.120 party? I don't know that. To break the ice. You 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:30.020 want me to tell it again? Yeah, pretty deep. 00:03:30.979 --> 00:03:33.900 So with that, Wayne, please take it away. Well, 00:03:33.979 --> 00:03:37.319 you mentioned Anoka-Ramsey, and I'll never forget 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:41.120 commuting with your car. It was a Volkswagen... 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.460 Karmann-Ghia. Karmann-Ghia. The worst car ever. 00:03:44.460 --> 00:03:48.180 Piece of crap, yes. That's where I learned to swear 00:03:48.180 --> 00:03:53.129 really well. I got a lot of practice. That was 00:03:53.129 --> 00:03:56.050 funny. I also had one school that I don't think 00:03:56.050 --> 00:03:58.590 you went to, Silver Lake Elementary. Oh, right. 00:03:58.689 --> 00:04:01.409 Yeah, that was before I moved up here. That was 00:04:01.409 --> 00:04:04.990 first through third grade, then to Highland. 00:04:05.370 --> 00:04:11.189 So that was all the school history. As far as 00:04:11.189 --> 00:04:15.449 since then, I graduated with a degree in forestry, 00:04:15.550 --> 00:04:19.269 forest management, in 1975 and got on with the 00:04:19.269 --> 00:04:24.069 state. and spent 37 years and two months with 00:04:24.069 --> 00:04:26.589 the state. Nice long career. Yeah, it really 00:04:26.589 --> 00:04:30.170 was. And a job I really liked. Yeah, yeah. Let's 00:04:30.170 --> 00:04:34.389 see. As far as work, where I went, because it 00:04:34.389 --> 00:04:36.970 was the type of job that if you wanted to move 00:04:36.970 --> 00:04:41.389 up, you moved. It wasn't required, but then you'd 00:04:41.389 --> 00:04:43.389 just stay in place. Sure, sure. What were some 00:04:43.389 --> 00:04:48.660 of the places? Started out in Willow River. Nobody's 00:04:48.660 --> 00:04:50.160 heard of Willow River. Where is that? I don't 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:51.959 know where that is. You know where Moose Lake 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:53.519 is? I've heard of Moose Lake. Yeah. Okay, it's 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:57.879 about 10 miles south of Moose Lake. Okay. Parallel 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:02.959 on Highway 61 with 35. Okay. Anyway, so there 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:06.379 I was the nursery assistant superintendent. So 00:05:06.379 --> 00:05:08.959 we grew something like six, eight million trees 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:13.680 a year. Wow. They still do. And then from there 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:18.480 I went to Alexandria. where I worked with private 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:23.360 landowners for about five years. And then got 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:28.240 promoted to assistant area supervisor in Cambridge 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:33.339 for five years. And that was a time when there 00:05:33.339 --> 00:05:36.959 was great amount of fire. So we were working 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:43.259 80 hour weeks. It was not unlike out west, only 00:05:43.259 --> 00:05:50.279 localized. So then from there, Cambridge to Brainerd 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:54.939 as the supervisor and was there for 14 years. 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.319 Wow. Probably my favorite place where I work. 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.120 Brainerd? Yeah. Yeah. It's beautiful. Anyway, 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.819 by lakes. Yeah. And I had a pretty neat house 00:06:01.819 --> 00:06:05.060 on a marsh about five miles west of Brainerd. 00:06:05.379 --> 00:06:09.319 So easy commute. Yeah. Yeah. It was good. And 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.560 then ended up in St. Paul to finish my career 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:18.209 as assistant director. So, a lot of moving around, 00:06:18.509 --> 00:06:20.850 but it never seemed hard because there was enough 00:06:20.850 --> 00:06:25.230 time between them. I can't remember if when we 00:06:25.230 --> 00:06:27.029 were going to Anoka-Ramsey, if you knew then you 00:06:27.029 --> 00:06:30.569 wanted to major in forestry, but what made you 00:06:30.569 --> 00:06:34.470 decide to do that? A friend of mine was going 00:06:34.470 --> 00:06:38.660 into it. urban, because I had always thought 00:06:38.660 --> 00:06:42.779 I'm from Columbia Heights. Yeah. Forestry? What? 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:47.180 Right. And he was also a big city kid. And then 00:06:47.180 --> 00:06:49.620 there was another guy we both knew Tom Tomczyk. 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:52.920 Oh, yeah. He also got a degree in forestry. Oh, 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:55.500 okay. I didn't know that. Yeah, kind of a surprise. 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.689 And so ended up going into forestry and I said 00:07:00.689 --> 00:07:03.449 I'll give it a year and see if I like it and 00:07:03.449 --> 00:07:05.910 the first thing we had to do is go to Itasca 00:07:05.910 --> 00:07:09.790 State Park for four weeks and get some field 00:07:09.790 --> 00:07:13.850 work in and get introduced to forestry and so 00:07:13.850 --> 00:07:18.050 I found I really liked it and so continued on. 00:07:18.050 --> 00:07:20.990 Wow good long career with this with the DNR then 00:07:20.990 --> 00:07:23.449 yeah and all those years of working did you ever 00:07:23.449 --> 00:07:26.279 wear a suit and tie? Uh, the last one. The last 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.980 one? Yeah. They figured being outside, you know, 00:07:29.100 --> 00:07:35.000 looking like that ranger like in Yogi Bear. Sure. 00:07:36.620 --> 00:07:40.339 No, we had uniforms that we wore up until about 00:07:40.339 --> 00:07:43.100 Brainerd when I was probably halftime uniform 00:07:43.100 --> 00:07:45.939 and then St. Paul was all suit and tie. Okay. 00:07:46.930 --> 00:07:48.870 All right. Well, thanks, Wayne. All right. Now 00:07:48.870 --> 00:07:50.709 that Wayne's told us a little bit about himself, 00:07:50.910 --> 00:07:52.649 I want him to talk a little bit more about the 00:07:52.649 --> 00:07:55.470 neighborhood where we lived. What were the things 00:07:55.470 --> 00:07:57.709 that you remember most about growing up there? 00:07:58.129 --> 00:07:59.850 Talk about the places where you like to hang 00:07:59.850 --> 00:08:02.529 out, where you'd go swimming in the summertime 00:08:02.529 --> 00:08:06.110 or skied or toboggan in the winter. Talk about 00:08:06.110 --> 00:08:08.329 the sports you played as a kid. And I know you 00:08:08.329 --> 00:08:10.389 played some instruments growing up. Just talk 00:08:10.389 --> 00:08:12.889 a little bit about that, too. OK. First of all, 00:08:12.990 --> 00:08:15.660 I should say, too, I am married. And no kids 00:08:15.660 --> 00:08:20.819 to finish my introduction. Thanks. Let's see. 00:08:20.819 --> 00:08:23.660 Growing up, my parents were in the same house 00:08:23.660 --> 00:08:27.560 for 60 years and not unlike yours. I mean, we 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.079 were five houses apart, five or six. Six houses. 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.419 I counted it when I drove by a couple of weeks 00:08:33.419 --> 00:08:37.360 ago. I hated guarding you in basketball because 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.679 you were left -handed. Tough to stop. He had 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:45.470 a hook shot that couldn't be beaten. But anyways, 00:08:46.610 --> 00:08:49.590 as far as sports in high school, very limited. 00:08:49.730 --> 00:08:52.250 I was on the swimming team as a diver for one 00:08:52.250 --> 00:08:54.769 year. You were on the first swimming team at 00:08:54.769 --> 00:08:56.509 Heights, right? Because they just built the pool 00:08:56.509 --> 00:08:59.330 like in 68. And then when we were sophomores, 00:08:59.470 --> 00:09:02.289 it was 68, 69. So that was the first. And I could 00:09:02.289 --> 00:09:06.929 swim, but not well. So anyways, I gave it one 00:09:06.929 --> 00:09:09.389 year and then said, no, that's not for me. A 00:09:09.389 --> 00:09:11.129 little bit of baseball. A little bit of baseball. 00:09:12.730 --> 00:09:16.230 But overall, no, it was graduate and move on. 00:09:16.370 --> 00:09:18.129 Yep. You did play an instrument. Talk a little 00:09:18.129 --> 00:09:20.450 bit about that, that you played the trombone, 00:09:20.549 --> 00:09:25.710 right? Yep. And you could play bass guitar too, 00:09:25.809 --> 00:09:28.470 didn't you? I had a bass guitar, was in a band 00:09:28.470 --> 00:09:37.419 for a brief time. Yeah. So what in fact you and 00:09:37.419 --> 00:09:39.519 your brother Al both played trombones, didn't 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:44.639 you? Yeah, and he was better than me Okay, just 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:48.200 like in sports for some reason he was very athletic 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:55.840 and client he went to state in tennis. I did 00:09:55.840 --> 00:10:01.070 not know that. Was he in the class of 76? Okay, okay. 00:10:01.389 --> 00:10:03.309 Yeah, he was really good in tennis. I did not 00:10:03.309 --> 00:10:06.230 know that. Yeah, went to state in doubles. And 00:10:06.230 --> 00:10:15.690 then also, he was a heck of a bowler. He was 00:10:15.690 --> 00:10:17.750 on the University of Minnesota bowling team. 00:10:17.909 --> 00:10:20.629 Oh, wow. They went to the Nationals in Vegas. 00:10:21.649 --> 00:10:25.610 So really good. I'm fair. Yeah. And really smart. 00:10:25.870 --> 00:10:27.549 I will say Wayne was always a really good student 00:10:27.549 --> 00:10:34.330 and really smart. He just, he used his brains. As 00:10:34.330 --> 00:10:38.289 far as local, did you go fishing with me? No. 00:10:39.009 --> 00:10:51.080 To Hex Lake? I know. I, fortunately I was not 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:54.259 a fisher person, but I'm sure you did fish with 00:10:54.259 --> 00:10:55.980 others. But yeah, there was a, there was a lake 00:10:55.980 --> 00:10:57.779 near us, Highland Lake or Peck's Lake, we called 00:10:57.779 --> 00:11:00.840 it. You get bullheads. That's all we could catch 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.500 is bullheads. It was, it was, it was like a 00:11:03.500 --> 00:11:05.419 glorified swamp as well. I mean, you couldn't 00:11:05.419 --> 00:11:09.419 put a boat on there or like a motor boat. It 00:11:09.419 --> 00:11:11.639 was pretty, it's pretty in the summertime and 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:14.399 that stuff. Yeah. Okay. All right. Great. So 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:16.850 that's. Pretty much it. I mean, I was in the 00:11:16.850 --> 00:11:20.289 house till I was 18 and it's still there and 00:11:20.289 --> 00:11:23.190 my brother's son lives there. Yeah, right. You 00:11:23.190 --> 00:11:25.190 kept the house in the family name, so to speak. 00:11:25.350 --> 00:11:28.110 So yeah, that's great. It looks great. I'm driven 00:11:28.110 --> 00:11:30.330 by it, you know, when I go up Chatham Road and 00:11:30.330 --> 00:11:32.429 I can see that they put the new siding on a couple 00:11:32.429 --> 00:11:35.090 of years ago. It looks very nice. Very nice. 00:11:35.450 --> 00:11:36.850 We're going to follow up a little bit more in 00:11:36.850 --> 00:11:39.440 our old neighborhood again. I've mentioned in 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.539 a previous podcast that the neighborhood we grew 00:11:41.539 --> 00:11:43.919 up in was literally a golf course until the mid 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.440 -1940s. Some of the street names there kind of 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:49.679 give it away. Golf Place, Heights Drive, Fairway 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.539 Drive. Do you remember how old you were when 00:11:51.539 --> 00:11:53.700 you first learned that our neighborhood was a 00:11:53.700 --> 00:11:55.600 golf course? And what kinds of things do you 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.360 remember reading or hearing about the old Hilltop 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:03.120 Golf Course? Chet Latawiec lived next door. He's 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:06.240 since passed on, but he was an excellent amateur 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.360 golfer. Right. And he used to talk a little bit 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.899 about golfing there. And then he bought a house 00:12:11.899 --> 00:12:15.559 next to mine and got a chance. His son also is 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.000 an excellent golfer. Yeah. Yeah. Doug. Yeah. 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.620 And the did we ever figure out where the clubhouse 00:12:21.620 --> 00:12:25.860 was? Well, I know in the corner of 45th and Chatham, 00:12:26.019 --> 00:12:28.980 there's a big house and we we knew a family that 00:12:28.980 --> 00:12:31.200 lived there growing up. But right across the 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.159 street from there, I believe that's where the 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.639 clubhouse was, where people would go in and get 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:38.909 their ticket, you know, to play 18 holes and 00:12:38.909 --> 00:12:40.889 that stuff. But the clubhouse had to be right 00:12:40.889 --> 00:12:42.970 near that house and next to it. I think I read 00:12:42.970 --> 00:12:45.009 somewhere that that was sort of like a manager's 00:12:45.009 --> 00:12:48.090 house or something where that house is now. But 00:12:48.090 --> 00:12:50.090 that's where you kind of started and finished 00:12:50.090 --> 00:12:53.389 right in that area. So yeah, my I remember my 00:12:53.389 --> 00:12:56.429 grandmother being really angry with my parents 00:12:56.429 --> 00:12:58.590 when they bought the house because it was so 00:12:58.590 --> 00:13:02.889 far out in the country. Yeah. Right. Right. And 00:13:02.889 --> 00:13:06.370 I can remember her getting into an argument with 00:13:06.370 --> 00:13:10.190 them. For the listeners who aren't from the Twin 00:13:10.190 --> 00:13:12.409 Cities or where we grew up, Columbia Heights 00:13:12.409 --> 00:13:15.289 is right next to Northeast Minneapolis. And, 00:13:15.370 --> 00:13:17.690 you know, to get to downtown from Columbia Heights 00:13:17.690 --> 00:13:20.529 is maybe four or five miles. But when you're 00:13:20.529 --> 00:13:22.870 a little kid or you lived in the only city, it's 00:13:22.870 --> 00:13:25.070 like you might as well say you lived in St. Cloud, 00:13:25.129 --> 00:13:27.929 you know, that far away. It was it's a first 00:13:27.929 --> 00:13:31.629 year suburb. It's right there. You know, so that's 00:13:31.629 --> 00:13:34.710 amazing. Well, just just for our listeners, you 00:13:34.710 --> 00:13:36.759 were telling me something about golf balls that 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:39.539 they pulled out of the reservoir next to it or 00:13:39.539 --> 00:13:41.919 something? What was the deal with the golf balls? 00:13:42.539 --> 00:13:45.759 Dozens and dozens or hundreds? Thousands. What 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.100 was this now? It was the waterworks. That dates 00:13:50.100 --> 00:13:55.320 back to the time of the golf course. It was having 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:59.940 clogging problems, I guess. I don't remember, 00:14:00.100 --> 00:14:02.419 because I'm sorry, but my parents would say, 00:14:02.460 --> 00:14:04.940 yeah, we saw them pull out a semi-load of balls. 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.669 Ha ha ha! If I were that semi-driver, I would 00:14:08.669 --> 00:14:10.549 have found selling them off the side of the road 00:14:10.549 --> 00:14:14.590 or something. Oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. 00:14:15.169 --> 00:14:18.850 And we used to bike down from our house to Central 00:14:18.850 --> 00:14:21.750 Avenue to the Heights Theater. Sure. I saw "A Hard 00:14:21.750 --> 00:14:24.529 Day's Night," I remember. Yep, our local movie 00:14:24.529 --> 00:14:27.629 theater. That dates us. Yep, yep, yep. And Danielson 00:14:27.629 --> 00:14:29.929 Drugs was on the corner there, 40th and Central. 00:14:30.129 --> 00:14:32.409 Oh, yeah, that's it. Well, and then you mentioned 00:14:32.409 --> 00:14:34.909 Chet Latawiec, his shoe store. Yeah, Chet's Shoes. 00:14:35.250 --> 00:14:37.740 Chet's Shoes. They're still around. There's one 00:14:37.740 --> 00:14:39.620 in the Heights and then there's one out in Coon 00:14:39.620 --> 00:14:41.919 Rapids. I think there's four or five. Yeah. Yeah. 00:14:41.980 --> 00:14:46.080 He kept it in the family. So, yeah, cheers. Okay. 00:14:46.340 --> 00:14:48.039 The name of the podcast again, is "Hangin' Out 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:54.700 with Bob." I'm your host, Bob Edholm. And my guest 00:14:54.700 --> 00:14:57.460 today is Wayne Damerow, who, like me, grew up in 00:14:57.460 --> 00:14:59.200 the same neighborhood, on the same block, in 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.799 fact, in Columbia Heights, Minnesota, or the 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:08.200 Heights, for short. Okay, Wayne, next topic. You 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:09.860 grew up in the Heights, went to school there, 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:12.120 then to Anoka-Ramsey, and then finished at the 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.139 U, University of Minnesota in St. Paul after 00:15:15.139 --> 00:15:18.700 you earned your degree in forestry. Talk about 00:15:18.700 --> 00:15:20.759 some of the places where you've lived. Well, 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:22.179 you kind of mentioned, but just talk a little 00:15:22.179 --> 00:15:23.879 bit more about the places you've lived elsewhere 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:26.940 in Minnesota or elsewhere, I guess. I've never 00:15:26.940 --> 00:15:29.019 lived anywhere but Minnesota. Okay, it's just 00:15:29.019 --> 00:15:31.679 Minnesota, okay. Yep. All those different towns 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.320 where I worked. have your house in Brainerd and 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.269 Cambridge. and Alex, St. Paul and Willow River. 00:15:40.629 --> 00:15:46.429 And I liked all of them. Getting used to Willow 00:15:46.429 --> 00:15:49.169 River was the hardest, just because coming from 00:15:49.169 --> 00:15:54.409 Minneapolis to a town of 325, everybody knew 00:15:54.409 --> 00:15:59.269 me. But then I got onto a baseball team, a softball, 00:15:59.590 --> 00:16:04.450 and we went to State a couple times. Annie's 00:16:04.450 --> 00:16:09.019 Denham Bar. Yep, sure. The town of Denham is even 00:16:09.019 --> 00:16:12.220 smaller. Not the denim material, you didn't 00:16:12.220 --> 00:16:14.720 wear denim jeans when you played? No, D-E 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:17.460 -N-H-A-M. Oh, okay. I think I've actually 00:16:17.460 --> 00:16:19.679 seen that somewhere. It's a little town about 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:23.240 six, seven miles west of Willow River. Okay. 00:16:23.419 --> 00:16:28.059 So we're talking nowhere. Oh, okay. That's cool. 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:29.600 That's cool. What position did you play when 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.220 you played softball? A shortstop and then when 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:35.679 I moved to... Brainerd, I got on with the softball 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:39.779 team and I was pitcher. Slowpitch. Yeah, of 00:16:39.779 --> 00:16:42.320 course. Did you ever play a fastpitch game? 00:16:42.419 --> 00:16:44.620 No. I didn't either. My dad played that when 00:16:44.620 --> 00:16:47.340 I was a little kid, but we just didn't play it. 00:16:47.500 --> 00:16:48.899 They didn't have a league in the Heights. They 00:16:48.899 --> 00:16:51.059 played slowpitch and they played for maybe 20 00:16:51.059 --> 00:16:53.419 years, but you had to drive somewhere to get 00:16:53.419 --> 00:16:54.940 in a fastpitch league. I don't even know where 00:16:54.940 --> 00:16:56.340 they played it in Minnesota. I don't think I 00:16:56.340 --> 00:16:58.740 wanted to. I don't think I could get around fast 00:16:58.740 --> 00:17:00.639 enough. I mean, it's like from here to my patio 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:02.840 window there where they're throwing to you. So 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:05.039 crazy. OK. All right. Again, the name of this 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:07.099 podcast is "Hangin' Out with Bob." I'm your host, 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:13.460 Bob Edholm. And my guest today is Wayne Damerow, 00:17:13.660 --> 00:17:19.259 who, like me, grew up in the same neighborhood 00:17:19.259 --> 00:17:21.460 on the same block, in fact, in Columbia Heights, 00:17:21.500 --> 00:17:24.150 Minnesota, or the Heights, for short. It would 00:17:24.150 --> 00:17:26.670 not be an exaggeration, Wayne, to say that you've 00:17:26.670 --> 00:17:29.190 been quite the traveler, not just all over the 00:17:29.190 --> 00:17:31.769 U.S., but all over the world. And if you could 00:17:31.769 --> 00:17:33.809 just maybe talk about some of the places that 00:17:33.809 --> 00:17:36.309 you've been to, places that you really liked 00:17:36.309 --> 00:17:38.809 as well as some of the places that you didn't 00:17:38.809 --> 00:17:41.589 like or were disappointed in. But just give a 00:17:41.589 --> 00:17:44.089 flavor for where you've been. Okay, well, I have 00:17:44.089 --> 00:17:48.680 four favorite places. Four! many places we've 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:53.759 traveled, but my favorite is Lake Como in Italy. 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.240 We stayed at a place for a while that was about 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:01.859 two miles from where George Clooney's house was. 00:18:03.259 --> 00:18:09.250 So we kept driving by. Not stalking, but just 00:18:09.250 --> 00:18:11.029 to see. He never invited you in or anything? 00:18:11.049 --> 00:18:14.829 No, he didn't. We were quite disappointed. But 00:18:14.829 --> 00:18:18.509 that was really, it's a neat area. If you get 00:18:18.509 --> 00:18:21.789 a chance, you should go. The pictures are incredible. 00:18:22.769 --> 00:18:27.890 Second was Germany. Yeah. I'm doing genealogy 00:18:27.890 --> 00:18:32.849 on ancestry. And a fourth cousin contacted me. 00:18:32.849 --> 00:18:35.630 Oh, cool. And, you know, it's pretty distant 00:18:35.630 --> 00:18:37.990 relative. Well, he said, come on over. So we 00:18:37.990 --> 00:18:41.539 did. We're in Germany. They live in Berlin. Berlin, 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:44.559 yeah, and so he picked us up at the airport and 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.299 that's so cool. We spent two weeks driving around 00:18:47.299 --> 00:18:55.599 Germany with So we went to Dresden. But beautiful 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.839 city and all over Germany, it was really pretty 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:02.339 neat. Yeah it is Then the next place I really 00:19:02.339 --> 00:19:05.880 liked was Uruguay. In South America? South America, 00:19:05.900 --> 00:19:09.359 yeah. See. Yeah, we combined that was a work 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:11.619 assignment where I wrote the fire prevention 00:19:11.619 --> 00:19:16.539 plan, the national one, for them. Wow, wow. How'd 00:19:16.539 --> 00:19:20.799 you do that? It wasn't a lottery. I mean, who 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.359 would like to write a fire prevention plan? Well, 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.000 I was on the State Fire Prevention Committee 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:29.559 at the time. Okay. They just were looking for 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.480 someone to come. There's a program called Partners 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.730 in the Americas. Okay. Each state is paired with 00:19:36.730 --> 00:19:40.309 a country in Central or South America. And Uruguay 00:19:40.309 --> 00:19:43.809 is Minnesota's partner. And yeah, it's not a 00:19:43.809 --> 00:19:47.329 well-known thing. Yeah, no. But I'm not making 00:19:47.329 --> 00:19:52.789 it up. No, no, I believe you. But anyways, they 00:19:52.789 --> 00:19:56.269 exchange in different things like food and farming 00:19:56.269 --> 00:19:59.710 and fire and forestry. You know, it's kind of 00:19:59.710 --> 00:20:03.319 neat. Uruguay's... different growing patterns 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.059 compared to ours. They can grow a tree that's 00:20:06.059 --> 00:20:08.539 about 40 feet tall and 10 inches in diameter 00:20:08.539 --> 00:20:12.420 in eight years. And here it'll take 40. So you 00:20:12.420 --> 00:20:14.759 get a lot of rain and just warmer temperatures? 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:17.200 Just different temperature. Perfect climate. 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:21.450 Wow. Yeah, so, so they went into forestry. You 00:20:21.450 --> 00:20:24.730 heard of the Pampas? Oh, yeah. Argentina. Uruguay 00:20:24.730 --> 00:20:28.089 also is part of that. But they're planting quite 00:20:28.089 --> 00:20:32.549 a bit of it up to commercial forestry. So anyways, 00:20:32.710 --> 00:20:34.930 that was really quite an experience. Can just 00:20:34.930 --> 00:20:36.829 real quick follow-up on that just for the sake 00:20:36.829 --> 00:20:39.710 of this is audio and Uruguay is obviously in 00:20:39.710 --> 00:20:42.609 South America but If I can picture in my mind 00:20:42.609 --> 00:20:45.269 a map of South America, where is Uruguay in relation 00:20:45.269 --> 00:20:49.430 to like Argentina or Chile or Brazil? Okay, Brazil, 00:20:49.670 --> 00:20:51.970 you know where that sits? Uruguay is right at 00:20:51.970 --> 00:20:54.549 the very southern tip of Brazil. Oh. And then 00:20:54.549 --> 00:20:58.130 you go about 100 miles or less and then you're 00:20:58.130 --> 00:21:00.430 on Argentina. So it's on the Atlantic side then? 00:21:00.430 --> 00:21:05.390 Yes. Uruguay. Okay. Okay. Yep. And so the Argentinians 00:21:05.390 --> 00:21:09.869 like to vacation in Uruguay. And so where you 00:21:09.869 --> 00:21:12.190 get people, you get fire issues. And so that 00:21:12.190 --> 00:21:14.589 was one of the things we dealt with. Is Uruguay 00:21:14.589 --> 00:21:17.569 really mountainous or flat? No, flat as a pancake. 00:21:17.589 --> 00:21:21.009 Okay, okay. And some river valleys, that kind 00:21:21.009 --> 00:21:24.289 of thing. What's the capital of Uruguay? Montevideo. 00:21:24.829 --> 00:21:27.309 Oh, okay. Most people say Montevideo. Right, 00:21:27.390 --> 00:21:31.230 like in Minnesota. Yeah, exactly. They named 00:21:31.230 --> 00:21:33.309 their town after Montevideo, Minnesota, right? 00:21:33.609 --> 00:21:36.529 Right, exactly. Okay, Montevideo, okay. Wow, 00:21:36.609 --> 00:21:39.670 getting a geography lesson, too. Oh, that's cool. 00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:42.970 Well, in fact, in Uruguay, isn't that the team 00:21:42.970 --> 00:21:45.170 that the U.S. men's soccer team had to play 00:21:45.170 --> 00:21:48.309 in this western... There was some kind of soccer 00:21:48.309 --> 00:21:51.269 competition just this past summer. It was some 00:21:51.269 --> 00:21:53.890 kind of cup, but it was just like Western Hemisphere 00:21:53.890 --> 00:21:56.289 team. So the U .S. played and they they had to 00:21:56.289 --> 00:21:58.910 qualify. They would have had to beat Uruguay 00:21:58.910 --> 00:22:00.990 in order to advance or something. They didn't, 00:22:01.089 --> 00:22:03.029 you know, Uruguay. I guess everybody in Uruguay 00:22:03.029 --> 00:22:06.450 plays soccer. It's like their sport, you know. 00:22:06.609 --> 00:22:09.309 Just one memory is I was walking down the street 00:22:09.309 --> 00:22:12.730 to the office and from the hotel and I saw a 00:22:12.730 --> 00:22:15.329 big crowd of people hooting and hollering. You 00:22:15.329 --> 00:22:17.809 know, I was also at a store, it looked like. 00:22:18.130 --> 00:22:20.670 So I went up and. watch for a bit. Well, they 00:22:20.670 --> 00:22:23.849 were watching a soccer game that was like 10 00:22:23.849 --> 00:22:27.690 years old. Still getting excited. And they were 00:22:27.690 --> 00:22:30.069 all just hooting and hollering. It was really 00:22:30.069 --> 00:22:32.329 pretty funny. Oh, wow. They love their football. 00:22:32.329 --> 00:22:34.690 They love their football. That's cool. That's 00:22:34.690 --> 00:22:37.089 so cool. All righty. The other place I really 00:22:37.089 --> 00:22:40.930 like is Costa Rica. So those are my four favorites. 00:22:41.109 --> 00:22:43.440 I've heard that's right in the... Caribbean, 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:46.480 right? Well, both. Central America. Yeah. Yeah. 00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:48.920 My brother was there last year first. It was 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:50.400 just where the Tom was there. And he said it 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.099 was amazing. Really nice hotel he stayed in. 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:57.059 Outside there were monkeys. Yeah. Yeah. But he 00:22:57.059 --> 00:22:59.140 said it was just great. He really enjoyed it. 00:22:59.380 --> 00:23:01.359 And we stayed at a mountain resort. There they 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:05.539 have true mountains. And they had no screens 00:23:05.539 --> 00:23:08.880 on the window or anything. and about middle of 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:12.200 the night we heard the howler monkeys oh my what 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:15.559 kind of monkeys howler howler they howl oh h 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:18.720 -o-w-l yes okay what does it sound like sound 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.640 like cheetah or um no it's a just a real distinct 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:35.079 oh wow and at two in the morning yeah what the 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:40.400 Oh, wow. Well, that's a close. Thanks for sharing 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:41.819 the story. Was there another one you want to 00:23:41.819 --> 00:23:44.279 mention? Okay. Thanks. Well, that's good. That's 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:46.140 good. I was hoping you'd just give me a flavor 00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:49.119 from the places you've seen. Was there one place 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:50.859 you went to that said, boy, this place wasn't 00:23:50.859 --> 00:23:52.619 as good as I thought it would be. I haven't run 00:23:52.619 --> 00:23:54.339 into that. That's good. That's good. I'm glad 00:23:54.339 --> 00:23:56.259 you said it. Cause I, when I went to Europe half 00:23:56.259 --> 00:23:58.559 a century ago, I can't say I was disappointed 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:01.339 with any place I saw. It was, it was so unique 00:24:01.339 --> 00:24:03.579 and place I'd never been to. So I wasn't really 00:24:03.579 --> 00:24:07.640 disappointed. So, okay, great. Okay. Um, just 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:09.779 a little bit more now. You've been retired for 00:24:09.779 --> 00:24:13.940 a few years now. Twelve. Okay. Um, tell us what 00:24:13.940 --> 00:24:16.579 you do to fill your days now. I mean, I know 00:24:16.579 --> 00:24:19.299 you like to golf and, uh, you just don't like 00:24:19.299 --> 00:24:22.500 to travel, excuse me. So. Yeah, we're going to 00:24:22.500 --> 00:24:27.299 go to Spain here shortly. See. We still like 00:24:27.299 --> 00:24:29.880 to travel as long as we can. Yeah, as long as 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:31.759 you're feeling good and can do it, it'll take 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:35.539 advantage. But what was the question? Well, how 00:24:35.539 --> 00:24:39.140 are you spending your retirement years? Golfing. 00:24:39.779 --> 00:24:43.240 Like I said, I was just starting to do genealogy 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:49.140 work in my tree. I don't know. Golfing. Podcast. 00:24:50.410 --> 00:24:53.869 Sure. Doesn't everybody work that in? Yep. Yep. 00:24:54.210 --> 00:24:57.269 Yep. And, uh, let's see, kind of drawing a blank 00:24:57.269 --> 00:25:00.769 here. Oh, gardening. I was six years on the board 00:25:00.769 --> 00:25:03.670 of directors from the state horticultural society. 00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:06.009 That almost seems like a natural tie-in for you. 00:25:06.029 --> 00:25:07.950 If you were in forestry, I mean, you like being 00:25:07.950 --> 00:25:12.079 outside and. Yep. trees and plants and just looking 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.680 at things, you know, taking care of them, not 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.019 getting overrun by weeds or just making stuff 00:25:17.019 --> 00:25:20.579 just to make things look pretty, you know. Yeah. 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.980 No, I've been pretty good gardener for many years. 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:27.279 Both my grandmothers and my mom all were big 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:31.859 gardeners. Now Al, not a bit. Well, I know that 00:25:31.859 --> 00:25:33.720 my mother liked gardening too, but she always 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:36.240 said it was so relaxing. That's what I find. 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:39.119 Yeah, you're really in touch with nature, so 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:43.259 to speak. And you got the sun. Yeah, yeah. It's 00:25:43.259 --> 00:25:46.079 a nice thing. That's a nice thing. Okay. Again, 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:47.900 the name of this podcast is "Hangin' Out with 00:25:47.900 --> 00:25:54.549 Bob." I'm your host, Bob Edholm. My guest today 00:25:54.549 --> 00:26:00.970 is Wayne Damerow, who like me grew up in the 00:26:00.970 --> 00:26:03.130 same neighborhood and the same block in fact 00:26:03.130 --> 00:26:05.269 in Columbia Heights, Minnesota, or the Heights 00:26:05.269 --> 00:26:08.779 for short. Okay, Wayne, last topic for this podcast. 00:26:09.940 --> 00:26:12.460 Tell us about what your favorites were while 00:26:12.460 --> 00:26:15.140 you were growing up. You know, favorite TV shows, 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:17.640 favorite teams you'd like to follow, favorite 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.579 bands, type of music you listen to, radio stations, 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:24.039 just to get a flavor. Sure. Well, I listen to 00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:26.619 KQRS. I mean, that's kind of a... That was more 00:26:26.619 --> 00:26:29.000 like in high school already. I mean, teenagers 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.730 are like... grade school. Yeah, the Top 40, the 00:26:31.730 --> 00:26:34.750 Top 40 stations like over our Top 40 stations. 00:26:35.450 --> 00:26:40.730 WDGY. Yeah. Weegee. 1130. Yep. And KDWB. KDWB. 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.480 Did you have a transistor radio? Yes, I did. 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.759 I had it by my ear at night. I fell asleep. Yep. 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.039 Yep. About the size of our cell phones. Maybe 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.599 a little thicker with the nine-volt battery. 00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.380 And just, that's how I really caught up on music. 00:26:56.539 --> 00:26:58.339 I'd have that to bed and I'd fall asleep at night, 00:26:58.339 --> 00:27:00.660 but that's where you hear the top 40 stuff. Sure. 00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.460 So you went to music land and saw the Top 40 00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:06.279 list. You go, Oh, I heard that last night. Well, 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.119 then every Sunday night WDGY would play the entire 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:14.779 full. of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly for 00:27:14.779 --> 00:27:17.460 those not familiar with that. Oh, wow. I remember 00:27:17.460 --> 00:27:19.180 that song. You had that album, didn't you? Oh, 00:27:19.259 --> 00:27:21.420 sure. Yeah, OK. I didn't have it, but I just 00:27:21.420 --> 00:27:24.980 remember the song. 1960s. Late 60s. Yeah, that 00:27:24.980 --> 00:27:28.609 sounds about right. One memory I have is. going 00:27:28.609 --> 00:27:31.769 with my mother to watch fireworks. And so we 00:27:31.769 --> 00:27:34.430 were going to walk up to the top of the waterworks. 00:27:35.109 --> 00:27:37.150 Yes, yes. Because it wasn't fenced in at the 00:27:37.150 --> 00:27:40.589 time. Right. And I had my transistor radio and 00:27:40.589 --> 00:27:44.829 they started playing "Surfin' Bird." My mom said 00:27:44.829 --> 00:27:50.089 shut that. Wasn't allowed to listen to "Surfin' 00:27:50.089 --> 00:27:54.289 Bird." During the fireworks especially. If anybody 00:27:54.289 --> 00:27:57.509 wants to check that out. Yep, yep. Who was the 00:27:57.509 --> 00:27:59.579 band that did that "Surfin' Bird?" The Trashmen. 00:27:59.579 --> 00:28:02.299 Oh, a local band. That's right. That's right. 00:28:02.539 --> 00:28:04.799 But they went national with it. Yep. Yep. Yep. 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.500 Just like the Castaways. Yep. With "Liar, Liar." 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.440 Yes. I remember seeing them at junior high school. 00:28:10.779 --> 00:28:14.119 Yes. Yes, they played it in the gym, the girls 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.359 gym. Yep. I remember seeing it was like Saturday 00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:18.819 night. I thought, wow. But it was, it's amazing 00:28:18.819 --> 00:28:20.900 because, you know, "Liar, Liar" was their hit song, 00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:23.059 but I can remember they were doing covers of 00:28:23.059 --> 00:28:25.680 "Sergeant Pepper's," right? They're doing "A Day 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.000 in the Life." And it's a pretty good, that strobe 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.420 lights is man. It was like psychedelic. Wow. 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.000 Okay. Talk about what were your favorite TV shows 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:39.380 growing up besides "Lunch with Casey." Yes, I won 00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:43.000 a case of Coke one time, because I could shout 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:48.900 the loudest. Willie Ketchem? Sure, with Clancy. 00:28:49.140 --> 00:28:52.099 Clancy's a cop. Willie Ketchem. He was out telling, 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:54.680 all right, we need everybody to scream and shout. 00:28:55.740 --> 00:29:00.759 And it was loud. Did you ever go on any kid shows? 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.319 You know, when they had, you know, the TV tapings 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:04.619 or whatever? Yeah, that was the only one. Oh, 00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:06.279 that was the one. OK, because I was on a couple 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.400 of those, too. I remember growing up. Oh, that's 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.400 great. But like when we got a little older, what 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.000 was like for you must see TV like you just had 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.640 to watch? Because for the benefit of our younger 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.140 listeners, we most of us didn't have any kind 00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:24.019 of recording capabilities. You couldn't stream 00:29:24.019 --> 00:29:25.960 shows. So whenever the show was on, you had to 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.930 watch it. or you missed it you know but like 00:29:28.930 --> 00:29:30.509 what were like must -see shows well they were 00:29:30.509 --> 00:29:32.890 black and white too yeah that's true that's true 00:29:32.890 --> 00:29:35.410 first well we didn't get a tv till i was like 00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:39.000 five Then it was black and white, of course. 00:29:39.180 --> 00:29:42.400 Yeah. Wow, that's terrific. Yeah. Little did 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:44.700 we know. Well, I was going to say one show I 00:29:44.700 --> 00:29:46.359 think that we all had to have, because that's 00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.640 how we learned a lot about pop culture, was Ed 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:50.380 Sullivan on Sunday nights. Absolutely. I mean, 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.640 the Beatles. Sure. You know, there are more people 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.680 watching that than they'll be watching the debates. 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:56.660 I mean, just, you know, because you just have 00:29:56.660 --> 00:29:57.819 to see it. I think it's still the record show. 00:29:57.819 --> 00:30:00.960 Yeah, it was. You know, it changed. It had such 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.700 an influence. So any other TV shows that come 00:30:03.700 --> 00:30:06.539 to mind? It was so many Westerns at the time. 00:30:06.539 --> 00:30:11.019 Yeah. "Gunsmoke" and "Maverick." "Maverick," right, 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.819 right. There were so many of them. "The Lone Ranger." 00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.779 "Hopalong and Cassidy." Well, I remember the show 00:30:19.779 --> 00:30:21.920 that was a big influence. I think we were probably 00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.400 out of high school or just finished in high school, 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:25.460 but "All in the Family." Sure. I mean, that was 00:30:25.460 --> 00:30:28.440 really, you know, a breakthrough TV. Controversy. 00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:30.799 Yeah, yeah, it was. Every week they would talk 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.019 about something that TV shows didn't talk about, 00:30:33.099 --> 00:30:37.660 you know. Sure. And shows like "Miami Vice" later. 00:30:37.859 --> 00:30:40.740 Oh, right. Right. I remember. Very influential. 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:43.740 Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Was there a comedy show 00:30:43.740 --> 00:30:46.480 that you think of that? "Laugh-In." Yeah, that was 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.619 funny. Yeah, that was. Yeah, like a million jokes 00:30:50.619 --> 00:30:53.980 that cram into like 60 minutes. But I remember 00:30:53.980 --> 00:30:55.539 some of the situation comedies. I mean, they 00:30:55.539 --> 00:30:57.920 were fakey as heck, but I still liked them like 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.500 "Hogan's Heroes," which is still on by the way. 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.619 Oh yeah, there's some local nostalgia channels 00:31:03.619 --> 00:31:06.700 like MeTV. It's on every night, but I can remember, 00:31:06.700 --> 00:31:08.380 you know, watching those in high school. you 00:31:08.380 --> 00:31:11.619 know, original. I mean, like the fakiest premise 00:31:11.619 --> 00:31:15.720 of all, but it was "Petticoat Junction." Yeah. 00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:19.980 "Bewitched." It was just that whole bunch of mediocre 00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:22.660 comedy. Yeah. Yeah. It was amazing what they 00:31:22.660 --> 00:31:24.920 had. But, you know, you didn't have a lot of 00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.920 choices. It was either you watched it or you 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:28.779 didn't watch TV at all, you know, just because 00:31:28.779 --> 00:31:30.940 who watched Channel 2? Oh, I know. Unless you 00:31:30.940 --> 00:31:33.079 had to like in school, they'd make us watch something 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.140 and pull the TV into the gym or in the classroom. 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.920 You have to pretend like you were interested. 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.599 Good memories. So so KQ was a radio station once 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:47.799 you were like in high school. Yeah, because they 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:49.680 played the most progressive stuff and it was 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:51.880 FM. So the sound was right. Yeah, that's right. 00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:54.619 Yeah, that was a big deal. We didn't have stereo 00:31:54.619 --> 00:31:58.170 radio. for most of our growing up till we got 00:31:58.170 --> 00:32:01.630 to high school. FM stands for? Oh shoot, I used 00:32:01.630 --> 00:32:04.109 to. Frequency modulation. Okay, well it's AM. 00:32:05.120 --> 00:32:07.839 Amplitude Modulation, I think. Because I was 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:09.900 going to be an electrical engineer at one point. 00:32:11.460 --> 00:32:15.000 I took one year in calculus and drafting and 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.420 all this forestry. Yeah, I want to get my fingernails 00:32:18.420 --> 00:32:21.440 dirty. Yeah, exactly. Good for you. Alright, 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.279 again, the name of this podcast is "Hangin' Out 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:29.819 with Bob." I'm your host, Bob Edholm. My guest 00:32:29.819 --> 00:32:36.099 today is Wayne Damerow, who, like me, grew up in 00:32:36.099 --> 00:32:37.960 the same neighborhood, on the same block, in 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:39.740 fact, in Columbia Heights, Minnesota, or the 00:32:39.740 --> 00:32:42.039 Heights, for short. Well, this was fun, Wayne. 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.559 It's fun to look back and reminisce. And thanks 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.180 for being my friend for the last 60 -plus years. 00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:49.799 You know, I feel like we just scratched the surface, 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.079 really. I mean, I just wanted listeners to kind 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.339 of get a chance to know you a little bit about 00:32:54.339 --> 00:32:56.279 yourself and what you've done in your life. But 00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.809 what I really want to do down the road... I think 00:32:58.809 --> 00:33:00.869 we could, I know we could do an entire podcast. 00:33:01.269 --> 00:33:02.829 I think I want to talk about the music that we 00:33:02.829 --> 00:33:05.990 listen to in high school or, you know, just for 00:33:05.990 --> 00:33:08.410 starters. And we can talk about our minutes of 00:33:08.410 --> 00:33:10.809 sports teams, how they've broken our hearts for 00:33:10.809 --> 00:33:14.069 most of the 70 plus years we've been alive. And 00:33:14.069 --> 00:33:15.450 anyway, there's, there's a lot of things we can 00:33:15.450 --> 00:33:17.369 talk about. So thanks again for being with me 00:33:17.369 --> 00:33:23.279 today. Hey, I was glad to do it. This is fun. 00:33:23.940 --> 00:33:27.480 When you've got some period between your world 00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:29.500 travels, we'll set up something so we can get 00:33:29.500 --> 00:33:32.519 together again. We will do that. Okay. You know, 00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:34.660 everyone has a story to tell and I believe most 00:33:34.660 --> 00:33:37.059 people like to tell their stories, to talk about 00:33:37.059 --> 00:33:39.500 the things they like to do, the things that interest 00:33:39.500 --> 00:33:41.579 them, the things they've done, the places they've 00:33:41.579 --> 00:33:43.599 seen. They just need to hang out with someone 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.599 like me so they can be asked those kinds of questions, 00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:51.579 right? I have so many people in mind that I want 00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:53.980 to have on as future guests. Today I was privileged 00:33:53.980 --> 00:33:56.380 to have my longtime friend, Wayne Damerow, join me 00:33:56.380 --> 00:33:59.920 in my palatial podcast studio. I'm using air 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:02.079 quotes when I say "palatial," but I have family, 00:34:02.259 --> 00:34:04.740 friends, people I grew up with, people I've worked 00:34:04.740 --> 00:34:07.240 with, people I've had lunch with or drunk beers 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.519 with, that I hope to get together with for future 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.239 podcasts. So, so many people to talk to Wayne, 00:34:12.300 --> 00:34:15.889 so little time. And to our listeners again. Thanks 00:34:15.889 --> 00:34:18.309 for hanging out with me, Bob Edholm. And again, 00:34:18.389 --> 00:34:20.650 thanks to my guest today, Wayne Damerow. We hope 00:34:20.650 --> 00:34:23.230 you'll be with us for our next episode of "Hangin' 00:34:23.230 --> 00:34:26.250 Out with Bob." And until then, bye-eee!