WEBVTT 00:00:07.979 --> 00:00:10.560 All right. Hello and welcome to "Hangin' Out with 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:15.259 Bob," a podcast hosted by me, Bob Edholm. Thanks 00:00:15.259 --> 00:00:17.600 for joining us and let's get started. Hangin' 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:19.719 Out with Bob" is a podcast where I let my guests 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:22.059 tell us their stories, where they grew up, where 00:00:22.059 --> 00:00:23.719 they've lived since then, what they're doing 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:27.120 now. What are their pleasures? What do they like 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:31.640 to do? as Sheriff Bart said to The Waco Kid in 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:33.820 his jail cell. I'm not sure you want me to share 00:00:33.820 --> 00:00:37.460 that. Probably not the same interest, but that's 00:00:37.460 --> 00:00:40.820 what we'll go with. OK, with that, let me introduce 00:00:40.820 --> 00:00:42.380 my guest today. You heard him just for a second 00:00:42.380 --> 00:00:45.060 there. It's Tom Madigan. We've known each other 00:00:45.060 --> 00:00:47.880 since the mid -70s. We didn't grow up in the 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:49.640 same towns or attend the same schools growing 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:51.340 up, but we've known each other for about a half 00:00:51.340 --> 00:00:54.340 century. So I think it's safe to say that we 00:00:54.340 --> 00:00:56.920 are, as Carl Spackler said to Ty Webb in "Caddyshack," 00:00:57.100 --> 00:01:00.219 "buddies for life." Absolutely. Now, it's funny, 00:01:00.380 --> 00:01:02.759 even with a good, solid Irish name like Madigan, 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:04.859 I don't think I've ever heard anyone who addressed 00:01:04.859 --> 00:01:07.540 Tom as Madigan, like in, "Hey, Madigan, how's 00:01:07.540 --> 00:01:08.819 it going, Madigan," that kind of stuff. Not on 00:01:08.819 --> 00:01:11.700 the golf course, not at a Gopher football game, 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:13.500 not on the basketball court or virtually any 00:01:13.500 --> 00:01:15.200 kind of get-together we've had over the years. 00:01:15.739 --> 00:01:18.819 So at some point in his life, his last name became 00:01:18.819 --> 00:01:21.500 or was morphed into "Mad Dog." I'm sure it's a 00:01:21.500 --> 00:01:23.939 reference to the wrestler Mad Dog Vacho. And 00:01:23.939 --> 00:01:26.640 then just plain "Dog." So during this podcast, 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:28.620 if you hear me calling my guest "Dog," it's not 00:01:28.620 --> 00:01:31.780 a term of derision, okay? So anyway, thanks for 00:01:31.780 --> 00:01:34.689 hanging out with us on this podcast, Dog. I'm 00:01:34.689 --> 00:01:36.329 going to step back for a few moments now and 00:01:36.329 --> 00:01:38.069 I'm going to let my guest, Tom Madigan, in his 00:01:38.069 --> 00:01:40.750 own basso profundo voice (that's Italian for 00:01:40.750 --> 00:01:42.890 deep bass), and I'm going to have him tell us 00:01:42.890 --> 00:01:45.030 a little bit about himself. Oh wait, sorry, before 00:01:45.030 --> 00:01:47.349 I get started, our listeners should know that 00:01:47.349 --> 00:01:49.730 Tom loves to play golf. So here's one for you. 00:01:50.049 --> 00:01:52.569 Why does a golfer wear two pairs of pants? I 00:01:52.569 --> 00:01:58.920 have no idea. In case he got a hole in one. All 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.180 right, so I've never had one, unfortunately. 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:04.900 But you still bring two pairs of pants. Yeah, 00:02:04.900 --> 00:02:07.519 right. OK, just in case. So take it away, Dog. 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.139 It's yours. Tell us. Tell us about yourself. 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:12.500 Thanks, Bob. It's really great to be here. I 00:02:12.500 --> 00:02:15.900 grew up in Waseca, southern Minnesota. My parents, 00:02:16.180 --> 00:02:18.919 my dad worked for the railroad. My mom worked 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:23.569 at home and my dad was a railroad engineer 00:02:23.569 --> 00:02:27.509 for 38 years. I've lost my parents, gosh, in 00:02:27.509 --> 00:02:29.770 1990. It was when my dad passed and my mom died 00:02:29.770 --> 00:02:32.689 in 91. My dad died of a heart attack. My mom 00:02:32.689 --> 00:02:36.069 died of ovarian cancer the following year. So 00:02:36.069 --> 00:02:38.210 it's been a long time I've been without family 00:02:38.210 --> 00:02:41.629 down there, but I just celebrated my 50th class 00:02:41.629 --> 00:02:44.669 reunion down there. I got the honor of being 00:02:44.669 --> 00:02:46.430 a master of ceremonies for it. It was a lot of 00:02:46.430 --> 00:02:48.310 fun. I had a really good time. It was a great 00:02:48.310 --> 00:02:52.060 turnout, a lot of people there. Grew up there 00:02:52.060 --> 00:02:54.599 and then I went to Winona State and that's where 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.479 you and I connected was at Winona State. I went 00:02:57.479 --> 00:02:59.919 there for two years, did some pre-engineering 00:02:59.919 --> 00:03:02.699 there. I'm a civil engineer by education and 00:03:02.699 --> 00:03:04.340 then transferred up to University of Minnesota, 00:03:04.340 --> 00:03:08.120 where you also went, and finished up my degree 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:11.800 there and after about four or five years I ended 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:14.120 up going to University of St. Thomas and got 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:16.879 my master's in business administration from St. 00:03:16.979 --> 00:03:20.659 Thomas in St. Paul. and did that and worked 00:03:20.659 --> 00:03:24.780 as a civil engineer primarily. As a City Engineer 00:03:24.780 --> 00:03:26.879 and Polar Works Director around the Twin Cities 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:29.159 area, I started out at the City of Columbia Heights, 00:03:29.300 --> 00:03:31.840 another connection for the two of us. Lived in 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.139 Columbia Heights for several years. After we 00:03:35.139 --> 00:03:39.000 connected through Nate Pafko, Nate was at Winona 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.900 State with me. Nate died, unfortunately, of cancer 00:03:42.900 --> 00:03:46.060 back when he was, what, 23? Just a kid, yeah. 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:49.319 Nate and I got to be really good friends down 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:51.419 at then, and, you know, obviously he connected 00:03:51.419 --> 00:03:54.310 me with you and your brother, Dave, and a lot 00:03:54.310 --> 00:03:56.729 of the other guys. Randy Borchardt was also down 00:03:56.729 --> 00:04:00.270 at Winona State and got to meet Randy and was 00:04:00.270 --> 00:04:03.969 also from Columbia Heights. So that's my connection 00:04:03.969 --> 00:04:06.289 to you guys. And like you said, we've been friends 00:04:06.289 --> 00:04:11.979 a very, very long time. So I worked as an engineer 00:04:11.979 --> 00:04:14.479 in the Twin Cities. I worked in my hometown. 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:17.199 I worked quite a bit in southern Minnesota on 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:19.540 different projects. And as I said, I started 00:04:19.540 --> 00:04:21.819 out as assistant city engineer at Columbia Heights 00:04:21.819 --> 00:04:24.699 and did that for several years. So that's kind 00:04:24.699 --> 00:04:27.120 of my background. Right now I'm doing, I'm an 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.279 adjunct professor for, of all places, University 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:31.920 of New Mexico. My wife and I lived there for 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.860 eight years. I bought a house there after I retired 00:04:34.860 --> 00:04:37.040 from full-time. Santa Fe. In Santa Fe. Yep. 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:42.459 And did that. I'm still doing it. My course has 00:04:42.459 --> 00:04:44.980 always been online, so I teach spring semester. 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:47.100 I just finished my seventh year this spring, 00:04:47.459 --> 00:04:51.000 and I'll start into my eighth year next winter. 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:54.540 Wow, nice, nice. Okay, thanks, Doug. Okay, again, 00:04:54.779 --> 00:04:56.600 the name of the podcast is "Hangin'g Out with Bob." 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:58.600 I'm your host, Bob Edholm, and my guest today 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:02.899 is Tom Madigan. aka Dog. Okay, now that Tom Madigan 00:05:02.899 --> 00:05:04.579 has told us a little bit about himself, I want 00:05:04.579 --> 00:05:06.019 to learn just a little bit more about his hometown, 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:08.639 Waseca, Minnesota. When I looked up Waseca on 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:10.800 Wikipedia, it stated that Waseca is about 80 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.490 miles or so south of the Twin Cities of Minneapolis 00:05:13.490 --> 00:05:16.269 and St. Paul. And the name itself, Wasca, is 00:05:16.269 --> 00:05:18.810 a Dakota language word meaning "rich in provisions." 00:05:18.910 --> 00:05:21.269 Did you know that? I wouldn't have known, had I 00:05:21.269 --> 00:05:23.310 not looked it up, I wouldn't have known. But I actually 00:05:23.310 --> 00:05:24.730 want to hear more about you, Dog, in your own 00:05:24.730 --> 00:05:26.250 words, what it was like for you to grow up in 00:05:26.250 --> 00:05:28.610 Waseca. Tell us about the places where you and 00:05:28.610 --> 00:05:30.949 your friends would hang out, what you did during 00:05:30.949 --> 00:05:32.889 the summertime, the different seasons, you know, 00:05:32.889 --> 00:05:35.529 skated, swam, played baseball, that kind of stuff. 00:05:35.750 --> 00:05:39.230 What was Waseca like in the 60s and 70s? Well, 00:05:39.290 --> 00:05:41.509 I want to clarify one thing. just to give you 00:05:41.509 --> 00:05:44.490 a little background, because Mad Dog, that story 00:05:44.490 --> 00:05:47.209 came from, I had a first cousin, Frank Madigan, 00:05:47.389 --> 00:05:50.769 that was a year older than me, and Frank Madigan, 00:05:50.970 --> 00:05:52.709 Mad Dog, that's really where it came from. Ah, 00:05:53.009 --> 00:05:56.430 it wasn't the wrestler? No, it was not. He had 00:05:56.430 --> 00:05:58.329 a couple of close friends that ended up going 00:05:58.329 --> 00:06:01.649 to Winona State too, and they called him Mad 00:06:01.649 --> 00:06:04.230 Dog, because one of the guys that went to Winona 00:06:04.230 --> 00:06:07.680 State was Moon Dog, and you can... Kind of consider 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:09.420 the reference to what they were talking about 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:12.860 with Moon Dog and that whole story about, you 00:06:12.860 --> 00:06:14.980 know what, pulling down your pants and mooning 00:06:14.980 --> 00:06:19.699 somebody. So that's where that came from and because 00:06:19.699 --> 00:06:21.600 I went to school with those guys went on the 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.779 state. Obviously you guys picked up that they 00:06:23.779 --> 00:06:26.100 were calling me Mad Dog, right? Right, and that's 00:06:26.100 --> 00:06:29.540 how that came about. Yeah, Waseca. Back then it 00:06:29.540 --> 00:06:31.480 was about a town of 5 ,000. It was a railroad 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.620 town and agriculture town for the most part. I 00:06:35.620 --> 00:06:38.120 grew up not too far from the University of Minnesota, 00:06:38.259 --> 00:06:41.120 Waseca campus back then. Now it's a medium security 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.939 women's prison, I think now. But we were just 00:06:44.939 --> 00:06:47.699 a couple blocks in there and we used their facilities 00:06:47.699 --> 00:06:50.750 all the time. I played baseball probably three 00:06:50.750 --> 00:06:52.589 times a day. You know, I'd go in the morning, 00:06:52.769 --> 00:06:54.910 play ball, come home for lunch and then go back 00:06:54.910 --> 00:06:57.050 and play ball in the afternoon and come home 00:06:57.050 --> 00:06:59.110 for dinner and then go back and play in the evening 00:06:59.110 --> 00:07:01.730 in the summer. And so I was really active in 00:07:01.730 --> 00:07:03.329 sports. I mean, you could ride your bike and 00:07:03.329 --> 00:07:05.829 get around anywhere in town. I felt very comfortable 00:07:05.829 --> 00:07:08.189 going. You know, I played some golf. I started 00:07:08.189 --> 00:07:11.170 playing golf when I was like 12. And I'd throw 00:07:11.170 --> 00:07:13.490 the clubs on my back and ride my bike all the 00:07:13.490 --> 00:07:15.629 way out to the golf course, which is on the other 00:07:15.629 --> 00:07:17.870 side of town, but it's not that far in a smaller 00:07:17.870 --> 00:07:19.850 town, so it wasn't that far to go. It was like 00:07:19.850 --> 00:07:21.290 in Columbia Heights or someplace where you're 00:07:21.290 --> 00:07:23.269 going into Minneapolis. Lakeville to Ham Lake. 00:07:23.569 --> 00:07:27.129 Yeah, exactly. So it so, you know, that's what 00:07:27.129 --> 00:07:30.050 I did. I played a lot of sports. I wasn't particularly 00:07:30.050 --> 00:07:32.209 good at anything, but I really enjoyed playing. 00:07:32.350 --> 00:07:34.629 I still do. Obviously, I play golf. I just finished. 00:07:34.949 --> 00:07:37.610 I'm playing up at Bunker Hills and the Cedar 00:07:37.610 --> 00:07:40.629 Rapids here in Coon Rapids. Just played yesterday 00:07:40.629 --> 00:07:42.410 morning and it's been a lot of fun. I ran into 00:07:42.410 --> 00:07:44.310 two guys yesterday I played with. They were from 00:07:44.310 --> 00:07:46.689 Montana, of all things. So I got a chance to 00:07:46.689 --> 00:07:48.870 connect with those guys. That was really fun. 00:07:49.029 --> 00:07:50.649 So I'm meeting a lot of guys and doing a lot 00:07:50.649 --> 00:07:53.269 of stuff there. And but, you know, it was a safe 00:07:53.269 --> 00:07:57.000 town. I had a lot of family there in my neighborhood. 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:59.759 We could put two baseball teams together, you 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.420 know, different ages, but all similar ages. And 00:08:03.420 --> 00:08:06.379 so we could put nine on nine on a field. And 00:08:06.379 --> 00:08:08.839 like I said, we'd use University of Minnesota 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.620 fields and we played football over there. Everything 00:08:11.620 --> 00:08:13.240 was there. And just to clarify, these weren't 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.199 organized leagues. No, no, no. We call them sandlot. 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:16.920 There's a sandlot. It doesn't exist anymore. 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:19.800 Show me a ballpark where it's kids playing baseball 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.339 anymore. Unless it's an organized thing and their 00:08:22.339 --> 00:08:25.019 parents are yelling at the umpire. No doubt about 00:08:25.019 --> 00:08:28.959 it, Bob. It's sad because kids today can't organize 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.680 themselves like we could. We could put team... 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:37.639 And we had to communicate and pick sides. And 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.460 we had to negotiate that. And that skill is not 00:08:41.460 --> 00:08:43.720 there anymore either, the ability to negotiate. 00:08:44.259 --> 00:08:47.809 So it was really good. And no uniforms. No uniforms, 00:08:48.149 --> 00:08:50.049 heavens no. Although, you know, I played summer 00:08:50.049 --> 00:08:52.669 league and we got a t-shirt. Yeah, yeah. I did 00:08:52.669 --> 00:08:54.509 that too. For baseball. But the pickup games 00:08:54.509 --> 00:08:56.450 were, that was the rule. I mean, that's what 00:08:56.450 --> 00:08:59.730 you did. Yeah, yeah. So that's kind of my experience 00:08:59.730 --> 00:09:01.990 in Waseca. Good place to grow up. Yeah. Good 00:09:01.990 --> 00:09:04.429 place to grow up. You know, I never did see your 00:09:04.429 --> 00:09:06.570 actual neighborhood there. When we were down 00:09:06.570 --> 00:09:08.149 there back in the mid -70s in the softball 00:09:08.149 --> 00:09:10.370 tournament, I never saw where you lived. But 00:09:10.370 --> 00:09:12.610 describe your neighborhood. Was it? Was your 00:09:12.610 --> 00:09:14.669 folks house a new house or new development? Yeah, 00:09:15.590 --> 00:09:17.230 my grandmother, I grew up right next door to 00:09:17.230 --> 00:09:19.830 my dad's mother, my grandmother. She had a double 00:09:19.830 --> 00:09:23.190 lot and the lot that we built her house on was 00:09:23.190 --> 00:09:26.350 her garden. So my dad bought the lot for my grandmother 00:09:26.350 --> 00:09:29.750 right after I was born. And they built a brand 00:09:29.750 --> 00:09:34.350 new house in 1956 on that lot. And that's where 00:09:34.350 --> 00:09:37.490 I grew up. And we were four doors from Birds Eye. 00:09:37.970 --> 00:09:41.210 General Foods plant. So yeah, I mean that was 00:09:41.210 --> 00:09:45.389 the big business employer. I did a stint, a couple 00:09:45.389 --> 00:09:49.929 stints there. I worked pea pack. They were getting 00:09:49.929 --> 00:09:52.110 peas and then I worked at corn pack as well. 00:09:52.570 --> 00:09:55.070 Is that still there? Yes it is. Because I do 00:09:55.070 --> 00:09:57.070 buy, I buy Birds Eye all the time frozen vegetables. 00:09:57.730 --> 00:10:01.669 It went to Dean Foods for a while and I think 00:10:01.669 --> 00:10:03.769 it might have gone back to Birds Eye again. 00:10:03.789 --> 00:10:06.210 I'm not sure about that. They also made Cool 00:10:06.210 --> 00:10:08.639 Whip there. back in the day. So I don't know 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:11.059 if they still do that there anymore or not. Like 00:10:11.059 --> 00:10:14.080 I said, I'm disconnected from the town now. Other 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:18.740 than going down for my reunion. Yeah, yeah. Your 00:10:18.740 --> 00:10:21.000 neighborhood or that area down there, I mentioned 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.240 in a previous podcast that the house where my 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:24.659 brothers and I grew up in, in Columbia Heights, 00:10:25.259 --> 00:10:27.779 was actually a golf course until the mid -1940s. 00:10:27.779 --> 00:10:29.899 Hilltop Golf Course. Do you know the history 00:10:29.899 --> 00:10:31.779 of your land or was it just kind of farmland? 00:10:33.179 --> 00:10:37.580 You know, as far back as I am aware of, it was 00:10:37.580 --> 00:10:39.840 spent housing. I mean, my grandmother's house 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:44.120 was very old next door. So it was housing a long 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:47.039 time. I grew up, there was two tracks that crossed 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:51.860 each other, railroad tracks. I was a block basically 00:10:51.860 --> 00:10:53.980 from each track. Oh boy. So you heard trains 00:10:53.980 --> 00:10:56.039 all the time? All the time. Okay. All the time 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.759 trains. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Well, great. Thanks. 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:00.600 Thanks for listening. All right. Again, the name 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:02.779 of the podcast is "Hangin' Out with Bob." I'm your 00:11:02.779 --> 00:11:05.039 host, Bob Edholm, and my guest today is Tom Madigan. 00:11:07.220 --> 00:11:08.720 You know, you talked about growing up in Waseca, 00:11:08.860 --> 00:11:11.200 but talk a little bit more about once you finished 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.080 graduating from the University of Minnesota and 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.879 you started working up here. Talk about some 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:18.200 of the fun places you remember going to during 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:21.519 those years in the 80s and 90s, you know, football 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:23.159 games and that kind of stuff. Just kind of talk 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:26.059 about the things that you did up here for fun 00:11:26.059 --> 00:11:29.960 and that kind of stuff. I don't think I went 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:31.860 to any of the sporting events when I was in college 00:11:31.860 --> 00:11:33.840 at the Uuniversity. Too busy studying. Yeah, I 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:35.720 was too busy studying at an engineering school. 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:38.879 But, you know, once I got out of college, you 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.000 know, we were going and we never, you know, Bob, 00:11:41.059 --> 00:11:43.279 you would go with us and a lot of the other guys, 00:11:43.419 --> 00:11:45.789 your brother and that. We never paid for tickets 00:11:45.789 --> 00:11:47.950 ahead of time. Right. You know, there was always 00:11:47.950 --> 00:11:50.509 this one scalper, remember, at the football games 00:11:50.509 --> 00:11:51.789 at Memorial (Stadium)? Yeah, sure. He always had tickets. 00:11:51.850 --> 00:11:54.529 And we just waited till that game started. Yep. 00:11:54.649 --> 00:11:56.490 And then he was... The price would go down. The 00:11:56.490 --> 00:11:58.210 price would go down. Yeah, we were playing less 00:11:58.210 --> 00:12:00.909 than the face value of the tickets and going. 00:12:01.269 --> 00:12:03.610 And, you know, we'd be at Stub and Herbs. That 00:12:03.610 --> 00:12:05.730 was our hangout, right? Stub and Herbs. Great 00:12:05.730 --> 00:12:08.090 place. And we did that. You know, I just drove 00:12:08.090 --> 00:12:10.190 by there. I took my wife, Sandee, around there 00:12:10.190 --> 00:12:13.559 just last week. Yeah. Just to... Remember, you 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.559 know, just a lot of thought and memories about 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.419 to go there again. Sometimes. Yeah, we really 00:12:18.419 --> 00:12:20.980 years for me. So, yeah, it would be fun. We need 00:12:20.980 --> 00:12:23.440 to make that happen. But, you know, that was 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:27.539 in back when I moved, I came up in 76 to he University 00:12:27.539 --> 00:12:30.899 and. You know, you go around the Twin Cities, 00:12:31.139 --> 00:12:35.320 it was a lot less crowded. Yeah, it really was. 00:12:35.460 --> 00:12:37.820 I remember going around the lakes, you know, 00:12:38.100 --> 00:12:43.019 the chain and. there wasn't the traffic. It just 00:12:43.019 --> 00:12:45.399 wasn't. It was a different time then. It really 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.460 was. But it was a fun time, too. I really enjoyed 00:12:48.460 --> 00:12:53.179 my experience. Once I got done with college, 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:56.720 I took that job with Columbia Heights, and I 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.720 got an apartment in Columbia Heights, and it 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.240 was a lower-level apartment, and lived there 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:05.019 for several years. And then, if you remember 00:13:05.019 --> 00:13:08.000 back then, interest rates were like through the 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:10.889 roof. Yeah, double digits. Yeah, it was double 00:13:10.889 --> 00:13:13.730 digits. And the federal government had a program 00:13:13.730 --> 00:13:18.590 that they would subsidize first-time homeowners 00:13:18.590 --> 00:13:22.570 with interest rates, and I got 11 .9 % interest 00:13:22.570 --> 00:13:24.169 rates. Because you're getting the deal, right? 00:13:24.850 --> 00:13:28.730 Yeah, because it was like 19%. Yes. It was ridiculous 00:13:28.730 --> 00:13:31.409 how high. And people today are worked up over 00:13:31.409 --> 00:13:35.889 what, 6 -7 %? Really? I know, I know. Very different 00:13:35.889 --> 00:13:39.029 world. Yeah. So, you know, then, you know, I 00:13:39.029 --> 00:13:40.830 worked up here and then we'd, you know, we'd 00:13:40.830 --> 00:13:43.070 hang out on the weekends and, and hit different 00:13:43.070 --> 00:13:47.529 bars and, and we'd go out to, oh, it was Garcia's 00:13:47.529 --> 00:13:50.950 out on 12. Sure. Remember that. And then Pracna on 00:13:50.950 --> 00:13:53.309 Main and that whole area was a lot of fun down 00:13:53.309 --> 00:13:55.330 there. And there's a lot of bars and restaurants 00:13:55.330 --> 00:13:57.009 in that area. I just thought of another restaurant 00:13:57.009 --> 00:13:59.990 that we'd go to a lot because we'd play basketball. 00:14:00.389 --> 00:14:02.330 Talk about, well, it was called the Sunshine 00:14:02.330 --> 00:14:04.389 Factory. Sunshine Factory. In New Hope. But talk 00:14:04.389 --> 00:14:06.659 about the "Friday Night Hoops." We did that. a 00:14:06.659 --> 00:14:08.620 bunch of Heights guys for at least seven, eight 00:14:08.620 --> 00:14:10.779 years. Oh, yeah. It was a long time. And we were 00:14:10.779 --> 00:14:12.799 playing like twice a week, right? We were playing. 00:14:12.820 --> 00:14:14.259 Oh, that's right. Brooklyn Center had a school. 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:16.519 Brooklyn Center had an elementary school. Was 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:18.759 that Tuesday night we played there? Yeah. And 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.480 then Friday night was over in Winnetka Elementary, 00:14:22.500 --> 00:14:24.100 right? Winneta Elementary, which is no longer 00:14:24.100 --> 00:14:26.000 there anymore. They've got a townhouse built 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:27.399 there. I didn't realize that they had torn it 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.429 down. What I thought was so neat about Winnetka 00:14:30.429 --> 00:14:32.409 is, one, the court wasn't that long. It was full 00:14:32.409 --> 00:14:34.409 court we'd play, but it was a shorter court. 00:14:34.490 --> 00:14:37.690 It wasn't NBA size. But it had wooden floors. 00:14:38.309 --> 00:14:41.490 And it had a locker room. So we'd get all sweated 00:14:41.490 --> 00:14:43.149 up, and then we could at least clean up afterwards. 00:14:43.409 --> 00:14:45.690 And then go to the Sunshine Factory. Well, the 00:14:45.690 --> 00:14:49.110 biggest moment for us is when, in 1980, when 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:52.620 the hockey games, U.S. vs. Russia. And we got 00:14:52.620 --> 00:14:56.120 the janitor who was working to pipe it in in 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:59.440 the court for us to listen to. And that was just 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:02.320 special. And then we went over to the Muni, I 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:05.820 think, in Robbinsdale. Wasn't there someplace? 00:15:06.379 --> 00:15:08.080 I can't remember where that was. I thought it 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:09.840 was kind of on the way to Osseo or something. 00:15:09.980 --> 00:15:11.980 It could have been. Well, yeah, because just 00:15:11.980 --> 00:15:14.159 for the ... benefit of people that don't remember 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:16.139 or weren't around then. That game wasn't even 00:15:16.139 --> 00:15:19.600 televised live. It was on a radio station. KSTP 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:21.820 picked it up, but it was actually a feed from 00:15:21.820 --> 00:15:25.019 Canada. I mean, there was no importance on the 00:15:25.019 --> 00:15:26.059 game. They thought there's no way they're going 00:15:26.059 --> 00:15:28.179 to beat the Soviets. But then, you know, they 00:15:28.179 --> 00:15:30.840 pull off the upset of the century. But when we 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.980 went to that bowling alley bar or whatever. As 00:15:34.980 --> 00:15:37.860 I recall they replayed the game. So it's like 00:15:37.860 --> 00:15:40.039 we got to see the whole thing. We knew the outcome, 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:42.340 but we got to watch the game. Which is just special. 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.700 We knew what was going to happen. Which even 00:15:44.700 --> 00:15:46.419 made it more special because we weren't sweating 00:15:46.419 --> 00:15:48.240 the game at all. It was like, oh, we know what's 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.200 going to happen. Just seeing it was so much fun. 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.759 Definitely. Good memory. Thanks for bringing 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.080 that up. As I mentioned at the outset, Doug, 00:15:57.769 --> 00:15:59.909 you and I have known each other for almost 50 00:15:59.909 --> 00:16:03.929 years. Gerald Ford was president then, and as 00:16:03.929 --> 00:16:06.909 you look back, I'm just wondering if there's, 00:16:07.009 --> 00:16:08.409 in the times we spent together, if you can think 00:16:08.409 --> 00:16:11.490 of one moment that still makes you laugh out 00:16:11.490 --> 00:16:13.710 loud. I'll share mine first and maybe it'll spark 00:16:13.710 --> 00:16:17.169 a memory in your head. It was in the spring of 00:16:17.169 --> 00:16:21.169 1981, okay? We were both in our 20s, and we had 00:16:21.169 --> 00:16:22.909 tickets for a North Star hockey game. It was 00:16:22.909 --> 00:16:24.950 against Calgary. It was in the Stanley Cup playoffs. 00:16:26.620 --> 00:16:28.559 We didn't drive ourselves to the Met Center though. 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.220 I can't even say it without laughing. We met 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:34.700 at the Columbia Heights Municipal Lounge, The 00:16:34.700 --> 00:16:38.620 Powerhouse, and then we got on a school bus. 00:16:39.700 --> 00:16:41.419 But there's a whole bunch of fans that were getting 00:16:41.419 --> 00:16:43.519 on the school bus. And I remember in the first 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:45.059 row, remember what was in the first row of that 00:16:45.059 --> 00:16:50.759 bus? Keg. With complimentary plastic cups. Yeah. 00:16:51.019 --> 00:16:53.860 So people are during the bus ride up to Met Center 00:16:53.860 --> 00:16:55.419 walking up there. And they were still, they were 00:16:55.419 --> 00:16:57.580 bringing their own booze on besides the keg. 00:16:57.620 --> 00:17:01.320 It was just wild. And you know the people had 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:03.500 had a few before they even got on the bus. And 00:17:03.500 --> 00:17:05.380 then going to the game and coming home and they 00:17:05.380 --> 00:17:07.460 still had the keg. Do you remember that time 00:17:07.460 --> 00:17:10.490 the bus? took a turn on 35, it kind of goes east. 00:17:10.809 --> 00:17:12.369 And that guy was standing here by the keg, but 00:17:12.369 --> 00:17:14.309 he took the turn, the driver took the turn a 00:17:14.309 --> 00:17:16.910 little too hard. And he, and he like smacked 00:17:16.910 --> 00:17:19.490 his head into the passenger window, but somehow 00:17:19.490 --> 00:17:21.930 he still had both hands of beer. He didn't spill 00:17:21.930 --> 00:17:25.569 anything. Head first into the window, but he 00:17:25.569 --> 00:17:29.589 held onto that beer. So, oh, that was just, so 00:17:29.589 --> 00:17:32.069 anyway, I just, when I think about that, I started 00:17:32.069 --> 00:17:33.849 thinking about that and just laughing and remembering 00:17:33.849 --> 00:17:36.569 it. You know, what I remember is a trip you and 00:17:36.569 --> 00:17:39.529 I took out west. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We went 00:17:39.529 --> 00:17:42.650 to Phoenix. Yes. And I had a college roommate 00:17:42.650 --> 00:17:46.950 that was in grad school. Yes. At Arizona State. 00:17:47.529 --> 00:17:49.529 Yep. And we stayed actually in the dorm with 00:17:49.529 --> 00:17:51.769 him. Yes. He was in a dorm. This guy's like, 00:17:51.769 --> 00:17:54.470 what, 23, 24 years old? He's living in a dorm. 00:17:56.500 --> 00:18:01.779 And it was just wild. Just absolutely wild night. 00:18:02.259 --> 00:18:05.559 And then we drove across over to LA. Yes, in 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.180 that little Pinto we rented. Little Ford Pinto. 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:10.480 Little Pinto that we had rented. And then we 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:17.720 went and watched basketball at Arizona State 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:21.660 in Tempe. And it was a it was a regionals, right? 00:18:21.660 --> 00:18:26.240 Yes for NC2A It wasn't a 64 team tournament back 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.380 then was like it was half that size. It was half 00:18:28.380 --> 00:18:30.160 that size So you didn't have to play as many 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.140 games to get to the Final Four, but still it 00:18:32.140 --> 00:18:33.700 was it was important They were important every 00:18:33.700 --> 00:18:36.220 game was important. Yeah, you know, so yeah, 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.200 so and we just walked up We we were over by the 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.519 football stadium. Yep, and we just per chance 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.920 walked over the ticket office and apparently, 00:18:44.980 --> 00:18:48.240 one of the teams had returned some seats that 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:52.640 weren't sold. And we were like, what, mid -court? 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:55.299 Really nice seats. Like 17 rows up, something 00:18:55.299 --> 00:18:58.599 like that. It was ridiculous seats. And very 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:01.980 reasonable. And we watched both games. It was 00:19:01.980 --> 00:19:05.579 just incredible. Yeah, it was UCLA upset DePaul 00:19:05.579 --> 00:19:09.799 in the first game. And then, no, Ohio State. 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:12.720 Arizona State because they were playing at home. 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:15.279 But yeah, that's right. And NBC was doing the 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:17.359 games back then. So we got to see Dick Enberg 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:20.059 and Al McGuire and Billy Packer. L.A. got into 00:19:20.059 --> 00:19:22.799 court. Yeah, it was fun. It was fantastic. It 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:25.119 was great. It really was. And like I said, we 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:28.559 drove out to L.A. and then I had a high school 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:32.140 buddy that was going to UCLA. Yeah. And we stayed 00:19:32.140 --> 00:19:34.839 with those guys. And that was just a... crazy, 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:39.960 because we watched UCLA play the next game with 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:42.500 them. Right. And one of the guys jumped on a 00:19:42.500 --> 00:19:44.700 coffee table and smashed it into pieces because 00:19:44.700 --> 00:19:46.900 they won. And it was just, it was just. It was 00:19:46.900 --> 00:19:49.039 Ohio State, right? Yeah, they beat Ohio State. 00:19:49.740 --> 00:19:52.519 It was just crazy. Yeah. And there was so many 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:54.859 laughs on that trip. It was. It really was. I 00:19:54.859 --> 00:19:56.880 went to Disneyland even. We went to Disneyland. 00:19:57.140 --> 00:19:59.980 And who do we run into at Disneyland? Oh. Marty 00:19:59.980 --> 00:20:04.539 Feldman, Igor, Igor. Yeah, that's right. That's 00:20:04.539 --> 00:20:07.519 right. Just a great, great memory. Great memory. 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.140 Again, the name of this podcast is "Hangin' Out 00:20:11.140 --> 00:20:14.140 with Bob." I'm your host, 00:20:14.140 --> 00:20:16.019 Bob Edholm. And my guest today is Tom 00:20:16.019 --> 00:20:20.400 Madigan, or Dog. It's been over 20 years, Dog, 00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:22.180 since you've actually been a full-time resident 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:24.880 of Minnesota. Just briefly talk about the places 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.200 that you lived in the 21st century then. Well, 00:20:27.940 --> 00:20:32.240 after I finished working full-time, and that 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:37.359 was 2016, I guess that was when I retired full 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:40.880 -time, we moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico. From 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:43.779 Hudson, Wisconsin. Well, we sold our house in 00:20:43.779 --> 00:20:51.009 Hudson in 2015, and my wife and I rented an apartment 00:20:51.009 --> 00:20:55.410 right across from from the Farmer's Market. Right. 00:20:55.569 --> 00:20:57.049 In St. Paul. Did they close the ballpark too 00:20:57.049 --> 00:20:58.829 with the Saints? Yeah, right. I mean, literally 00:20:58.829 --> 00:21:01.730 a half a block from the Saints ballpark. And 00:21:01.730 --> 00:21:03.670 we lived there for a year while they finished 00:21:03.670 --> 00:21:06.349 construction on our house. We built a brand new 00:21:06.349 --> 00:21:08.390 house in Santa Fe. It was out in the country. 00:21:08.509 --> 00:21:11.019 You've been there. Yeah, beautiful place. And 00:21:11.019 --> 00:21:13.000 so we built that place. So we lived in St. Paul 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.539 for a year in that apartment. And then, you know, 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:17.599 we moved out and then moved down to Santa Fe. 00:21:17.619 --> 00:21:19.880 And we spent eight years, almost nine years there. 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:24.779 And then, you know, we moved to back here part 00:21:24.779 --> 00:21:27.559 time where I'm in Blaine now. I have a townhouse 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:29.940 in Blaine and I have a townhouse in Gold Canyon, 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.880 Arizona now. So we're snowbirds. Gold Canyon 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:35.380 is a nice suburb of Phoenix. Yeah, very east 00:21:35.380 --> 00:21:38.900 side of Phoenix. Right. Yeah. So I walked. 50 00:21:38.900 --> 00:21:40.980 yards on a golf course down there. It's a really 00:21:40.980 --> 00:21:44.240 nice setup. And our place up here in Blaine is, 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:46.500 you know, two quarters of a mile from the TPC 00:21:46.500 --> 00:21:48.839 tournament players course in Blaine. So really 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:50.640 good spot. And you've got lakes and water. So 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:53.019 I got water up here and then I go down there 00:21:53.019 --> 00:21:55.039 and I got desert in the winter time and get out 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:56.900 of the cold. So that's what we're doing these 00:21:56.900 --> 00:21:58.220 days. It's virtually half and half, right? I 00:21:58.220 --> 00:22:00.160 mean, you're a resident of Arizona, but you spend 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:02.259 the winter. We're a resident of Arizona. You 00:22:02.259 --> 00:22:04.220 got to be there six months and a day. Yeah. Yeah. 00:22:04.259 --> 00:22:06.559 You know, from an a tax standpoint. Right. Right. 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:08.589 Yeah. Kind of half and half. Well, it's the best 00:22:08.589 --> 00:22:10.029 of both worlds. You've got the nice weather here. 00:22:10.029 --> 00:22:12.250 Yeah, so far so good. You know, and you know, 00:22:12.250 --> 00:22:14.450 we've got all of our family up here. I've got 00:22:14.450 --> 00:22:16.970 three granddaughters. I got a 10-year-old, a 00:22:16.970 --> 00:22:18.450 five-year-old and a two-year-old granddaughter. 00:22:18.950 --> 00:22:23.230 My son and his wife are in Hudson. They still 00:22:23.230 --> 00:22:24.369 live in Hudson. Which is basically the Twin Cities 00:22:24.369 --> 00:22:27.730 metro area. And my daughter is in New Brighton. Yeah, 00:22:27.750 --> 00:22:29.650 yeah. So we've got family here. So that makes 00:22:29.650 --> 00:22:34.150 sense. Yep. Cool. So all righty. All right. Well, 00:22:34.309 --> 00:22:36.490 last topic for this podcast, Dog. This has been 00:22:36.490 --> 00:22:41.660 fun. Absolutely. I wanted to just ask you, these 00:22:41.660 --> 00:22:44.140 can be quick answer stuff. Tell me about your 00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:46.319 favorites while you were growing up. You and 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:48.259 I are both Boomers, and the things that we were 00:22:48.259 --> 00:22:51.059 interested in and like to do and did. Younger 00:22:51.059 --> 00:22:52.579 kids today won't know what the heck we're talking 00:22:52.579 --> 00:22:54.900 about, but let's talk about it anyway. What was 00:22:54.900 --> 00:22:59.220 your favorite TV show or name one or two that 00:22:59.220 --> 00:23:01.079 you just remember watching when you were growing 00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:04.579 up? Well, we watched "MASH." For sure. You know, 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:07.700 that was a great show. "All in the Family," back 00:23:07.700 --> 00:23:09.839 in the day, because it was ground setting, really. 00:23:10.619 --> 00:23:12.440 You know, when you think about the topics and 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:14.380 the things that were discussed on "All in the Family," 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.299 they were really strong back then. You know, 00:23:16.339 --> 00:23:19.039 I still watch it. Do you really? No, it's on 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.640 one of these Channel 9 stations. Okay. But it's 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.660 on, they have back-to-back episodes weeknights, 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:25.960 like from seven to eight. Yeah. And it brings 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:27.960 back memories watching it. I remember watching 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:29.700 it. I remember when it was first on. I remember 00:23:29.700 --> 00:23:33.089 when I was dating Sandee, my wife. uh, "Cheers" 00:23:33.089 --> 00:23:36.430 reruns were on late at night and, you know, she 00:23:36.430 --> 00:23:38.529 was living in St. Paul and I was living up in, 00:23:38.529 --> 00:23:41.170 uh, you know, Columbia Heights. And, uh, we'd 00:23:41.170 --> 00:23:44.230 be talking on the phone, watching "Cheers" together. 00:23:44.750 --> 00:23:46.690 She'd have it on and I'd have it on. You know, 00:23:46.809 --> 00:23:49.349 so "Cheers" was, "Cheers" was another one. And then 00:23:49.349 --> 00:23:54.160 I was out in, uh, LA, um, I had a friend of mine 00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:56.220 in Santa Fe that belonged to Wilshire Country 00:23:56.220 --> 00:23:58.599 Club and asked if he wanted to come out and play. 00:23:59.019 --> 00:24:00.660 And another buddy of mine from Denver and I went 00:24:00.660 --> 00:24:03.460 out there and we got a tour of Paramount Studios. 00:24:04.259 --> 00:24:05.900 And that's where "Cheers" was filmed. Oh, okay. 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:10.119 Yeah. Yeah. And the story that their last filming, 00:24:10.819 --> 00:24:13.619 Woody Harrelson and Ted Danson stripped down 00:24:13.619 --> 00:24:17.559 naked. And it was at night. Okay. And they ran 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:20.869 naked through Paramount Studios. through the 00:24:20.869 --> 00:24:24.049 streets of Paramount Studios. It's a great story. 00:24:25.970 --> 00:24:30.769 Yeah. "Cheers." Oh yeah. Well, that's hilarious. 00:24:30.970 --> 00:24:33.549 I did not know about that. So, all right. What 00:24:33.549 --> 00:24:37.509 was your favorite? Band or bands? Well, that's 00:24:37.509 --> 00:24:39.710 a hard one, Bob. I mean, I've got a lot of groups 00:24:39.710 --> 00:24:43.210 I really like. I'd have to say probably Steely 00:24:43.210 --> 00:24:46.450 Dan. I've seen them twice in person. Just saw 00:24:46.450 --> 00:24:50.069 them back up to the Eagles here in Phoenix in 00:24:50.069 --> 00:24:52.450 January. And I'll tell you, the Eagles is up 00:24:52.450 --> 00:24:56.869 there too. Led Zeppelin. Chicago was a big band 00:24:56.869 --> 00:24:58.450 that I really liked a lot. I've seen them in 00:24:58.450 --> 00:25:00.769 person twice. So that's another band. But I'd 00:25:00.769 --> 00:25:06.000 have to say probably Steely Dan. What regular 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:07.900 stations could you pick up down there? Well, 00:25:08.339 --> 00:25:11.339 you know, I listen to the Twins, obviously, on 00:25:11.339 --> 00:25:15.559 CCO. Yeah, but WDGY back then. You could get 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:20.079 1130 AM down there. WDGY. Back after, you know, 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.319 in college and then after college, the station 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.799 I really liked a lot was U-100. I don't know 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:27.240 if you remember that. I do remember that. It 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:28.640 was very eclectic. It was like an alternative 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:30.660 rock station. It really was. On AM. Yeah, it 00:25:30.660 --> 00:25:33.400 was on, but it was... Really, really good. And 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:36.200 there's a station in Santa Fe, I think I talked 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:37.259 to you about it. Yep, you've told me about it. 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.119 And it's called Radio Free Santa Fe. It's 98 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:44.099 .5. And it's the same kind of music, you know, 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.460 very eclectic, just a broad spectrum. And it's 00:25:46.460 --> 00:25:48.160 not predictable, is it? No, no, not at all. You 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:50.359 just played that three hours ago. No, they'll 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:53.160 play local groups and they'll play old stuff 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.990 right then, you know. It's alternative and it's 00:25:55.990 --> 00:25:57.470 really, really good. Not a real structured format. 00:25:57.710 --> 00:25:59.009 No, not at all. Yeah, I love stuff like that. 00:25:59.509 --> 00:26:01.329 I love that so much. I actually went and got 00:26:01.329 --> 00:26:03.849 a t-shirt from them. I don't really do that, 00:26:03.869 --> 00:26:06.210 but I did go and got a t-shirt from them. No, 00:26:06.529 --> 00:26:10.380 that's nice. Alright, okay again, the name of 00:26:10.380 --> 00:26:12.579 this podcast is "Hangin' Out with Bob" and I'm 00:26:12.579 --> 00:26:14.420 your host, Bob Edholm, and my guest today has 00:26:14.420 --> 00:26:16.700 been Tom Madigan As you've heard me call him 00:26:16.700 --> 00:26:19.700 throughout the podcast, Dog This was fun, Dog. 00:26:19.700 --> 00:26:21.640 It's fun to look back. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:23.259 I know we're just scratch the surface of things 00:26:23.259 --> 00:26:25.359 that we can talk about and I'm thinking ahead 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.039 already I know we can do we can do what entire 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.099 podcast talk about just sports or absolutely 00:26:31.099 --> 00:26:33.660 music or movies that kind of stuff just name 00:26:33.660 --> 00:26:37.289 a few things right and And while it's been fun 00:26:37.289 --> 00:26:39.670 that we're doing this here in Minnesota, here 00:26:39.670 --> 00:26:41.829 in the Heights, Columbia Heights, I'm looking 00:26:41.829 --> 00:26:43.789 forward to a remote podcast with you too. We 00:26:43.789 --> 00:26:45.970 can do that when you're down in Phoenix and, 00:26:45.970 --> 00:26:47.450 you know, you can just hook up my phone and you 00:26:47.450 --> 00:26:49.329 can... Pick me up on your phone. We can do stuff 00:26:49.329 --> 00:26:52.650 like that. Perfect. And I'm thinking even maybe 00:26:52.650 --> 00:26:55.049 even doing recording a podcast down there next 00:26:55.049 --> 00:26:56.710 time. Oh, that'd be great. Yeah. I could put 00:26:56.710 --> 00:26:58.549 my stuff, this stuff in a suitcase. I only need 00:26:58.549 --> 00:27:01.349 this little pod track four and a couple of mics 00:27:01.349 --> 00:27:03.849 and headphones and we can do it there. Give me 00:27:03.849 --> 00:27:05.789 a nice excuse to come down to Arizona, you know, 00:27:05.869 --> 00:27:07.190 so we can do that. Get out of the cold. Yep, 00:27:07.509 --> 00:27:09.869 get out of the cold. So again, I want to thank 00:27:09.869 --> 00:27:11.630 you again for joining us, Dog. It was really 00:27:11.630 --> 00:27:16.200 fun. So thanks for that. The fans loved it too. 00:27:20.339 --> 00:27:25.460 Alright. Again, I just want to thank you. I know 00:27:25.460 --> 00:27:27.220 you're going to be going back to Arizona probably 00:27:27.220 --> 00:27:30.339 next month. October. Okay, so we got a little 00:27:30.339 --> 00:27:32.319 bit of time. I'm just glad we made time for this 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:36.500 one today. So again, appreciate it. And I'm going 00:27:36.500 --> 00:27:41.119 to use this quote again. As Carl said to Ty in 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.200 "Caddyshack," "If you ever want to rap or just get 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.599 weird together with somebody, you know, buddies 00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.299 for life," right? Sounds good. Absolutely. Thanks, 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:51.140 Bob. Appreciate it. All right. Well, you know, 00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:53.460 everyone has a story to tell, and I believe most 00:27:53.460 --> 00:27:55.960 people like to tell their stories to talk about 00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:57.799 the things they like to do, the things that interest 00:27:57.799 --> 00:27:59.880 them. They just need to hang out with someone 00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:02.539 like me so they can be asked those kinds of questions, 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.069 right? Alright, I have so many friends in mind 00:28:06.069 --> 00:28:09.849 that I want to have his future guests, family, 00:28:09.990 --> 00:28:12.210 friends, people I grew up with, people I worked 00:28:12.210 --> 00:28:15.410 with, people I've drunk beer with. To our listeners 00:28:15.410 --> 00:28:17.390 again, thanks for hanging out with me, Bob Edholm. 00:28:17.890 --> 00:28:20.430 We hope you'll be back for our next episode. 00:28:20.849 --> 00:28:22.230 And until then, bye!