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Welcome to Botch's Off -Road Podcast. Welcome!

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It's just me and Gavin. I hope you hear how exhausted

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I am. It's been a long week, dude. Yeah, it has.

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I'm just going to wrap you up right now. I'm

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going to start with it. And I started a new job.

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So yeah, you might have heard last episode that

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I started a new job. This is a different job.

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It's a new, new job. Yeah, this is a new, new

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job. So to summarize, the last job that I worked

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at was talked pretty highly, and I think that

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if you get in the right spot with the right person,

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it is pretty good. But it absolutely sucked for

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me. I guess the quality of what I was used to

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in manufacturing made me expect something that,

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just wasn't there at this one uh so and number

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two uh i really don't like getting up at 3 a

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.m i was having a hard time doing it jasper goes

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to bed at like 11 and that's you know he keeps

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me up that whole time so i was having a hard

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time recovering after getting up and doing all

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that so uh this last friday I got a call from

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a workplace, like a staffing agency, asking me

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about another company, a hydraulic company in

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the same town that I'm in. And they said start

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time was 7 a .m. They said that I'd be leaving

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at 3 .30, and it's Monday through Friday. And

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they said, oh, what's the pay? Same pay. Or like

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50 cents better, I can't remember. And I was

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like... Either way, that is way better because

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then I could take Jasper in for childcare. Sienna

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doesn't have to go backwards to drop him off,

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then go to the town that she's working in now.

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So it was a logical move. If I did it Friday,

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I'd still have paychecks until I got my first

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paycheck here. So it was one of those things,

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like if I was going to do it, I better do it

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then. I can already say so far it's Wednesday

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we're recording. As of Wednesday, this place

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is already way better than GM. I mean, it's cooler.

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The dirtiest I get is, like, gear oil on me,

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which I get a lot of gear oil on me, but it's

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not enough to, like, soak my clothing. It's just

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mostly on my hands and stuff because we're working

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with hydraulic stuff. You can wear gloves if

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you want, but it's not required, so I don't.

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So, yeah, I mean, it's already better. I'm working

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with a team of, like, four or five people, and

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they're all really laid back, you know. So it's

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not bad. I did figure out here the other day

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that, like a day or two ago, that... Right now

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they are working forced overtime, which is, I

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guess, pretty typical of factories, but new to

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me. And the forced overtime is making them come

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in at 5 a .m. to 3 .30 and is until they slow

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back down or catch up. And nobody told me that.

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In fact, my work agency told me that I would

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be in at 7 to 3 .30 every day, and that was my

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schedule. So that kind of hurts for getting childcare

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figured out. And then I also figure out that

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7 to 3 .30 isn't even the schedule. It's actually

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6 to 3 .30. And so... Even then, as the normal

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schedule goes, it kind of screws me a little

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bit for child care. So it's like I had to have

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a conversation with the plant manager, the guy

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who was doing our onboarding and stuff. And it

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was like, so, you know, just so you know, like

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I'm not saying I quit. I'm not saying that, you

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know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I just want

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you to know that this isn't what I signed up

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for. you know like i'm not saying that i am quitting

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that i'm not saying anything like that i was

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trying to reassure him i was like you said you

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would work with us i'm telling you that i can't

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drop my kid off at child care at 4 30 in the

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morning right i can't do that and he's like well

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we'll figure it out we'll work with you and i'm

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like okay i hope so because there's no way that's

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happening you know so yeah that was that was

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interesting but otherwise It's been way better.

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On average, it's cooler. It's not temp -controlled

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to stay hot and dry because there's no wood,

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so that's nice. It's interesting that they're

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doing forced overtime by just adding more hours

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to the day. Like, I've worked in three factories.

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All three of those, when we had forced overtime,

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they just add a day to our week. Well, it's already

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Monday through Friday, so... Right, we'd come

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in on Saturday. Right, and they're trying really

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hard not to have people come in on Saturdays

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because obviously that's a huge morale hit to

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people from what I've been hearing. It's just

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interesting that they did it that route instead

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of... You know, I'm okay with that. I would rather,

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if I had to choose, I would rather have a full

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weekend than... you know no it's that but it's

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cool also give us the option if we can't come

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in earlier to let us stay a little later yeah

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so that's the other thing your old job just switched

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up their schedules too did they they're not or

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your your new old job your old new job however

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you want to put it they uh they're now they now

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work tuesday through friday what Yeah. When the

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fuck did that happen? Starting Monday? Must have

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been Monday. That's such horse shit. That's so

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funny, though. Now they go to work starting Tuesday

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and then work Tuesday through Friday. That's

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so funny. Yeah. We were just talking about with

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another employee of mine that used to work at

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GM. There's two other people that used to work

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at GM that left because of their bullshit within

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three to four weeks because of where they were

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put, the working circumstances, the lead there

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that barely knew how to say anything proper.

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Me and you talked about this. And they were talking

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about how they absolutely hated it. It was the

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worst factory experience they've ever had. And

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I was like, well, how long did you last? They're

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like three weeks. The other one's like two weeks.

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And there was one other person I talked to that's

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actually my sister -in -law's husband's wife.

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Yes, divorced husband. Okay. She found me today

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and said that like four years ago she tried to

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work at GM and lasted a week and left. And came

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to Booker and is now working there. And I was

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like, you know what? Hey, if you get lucky and

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you're used to that, then fine. Look, I have

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worked retail. I've worked manufacturing that

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was manufacturing and computer work. So it wasn't

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12 hours. on the floor to be fair that was that

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was food manufacturing as all different rule

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skill set skill all different rule set rule set

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not skill set you know yeah yeah yeah it was

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a little and and you know there was a good chunk

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of it that you did to do sitting down it wasn't

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just um straight standing all day and sometimes

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you also didn't work you also didn't work on

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the floor the other one either i did uh at the

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start of it i worked on the floor um and then

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by my second contract i was working in the lab

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which was probably one of my more favorite jobs

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but um but yeah anyway so i'm a lot just from

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these first couple days here i'm a lot happier

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off i could see myself being here temporarily

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long ish term like more than a year maybe but

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It's just, it's like I still don't know what

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I want to do with the rest of my life. I told

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my wife that we need to get our shit together

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and figure out career -wise what we want to do

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because I'm 31, she's 27. I'm like, it's about

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time that we start figuring out what we want

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to do. Do you want to be a store manager your

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whole life? Do you want to be in, you know, AutoZone

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retail your whole life? You know, starting to

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get to that point where we're like, hey, we want

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a house, we want to move, let's figure out what

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we want to actually do, get that done, and then

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go. Win the lottery. That's about your option

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at this point. I've been really holding out for

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that, or really holding out for botches off -road

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to take off and my YouTube channel to take off.

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Or, you know, a rich uncle you didn't know you

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had dies and then leaves all his money to you.

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I have a rich uncle that I know. And I just know

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that I won't get shit. It has to be one you don't

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know. That way you don't feel bad when you get

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all this free money. I wouldn't feel bad even

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if I did. I could have my real uncle, if my dad

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passed away and left me like $4 million, I'd

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be like, thanks, Dad. Like, I'm not feeling guilty.

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I'm not overly sentimental. But. Yeah, I'm glad

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you started a new job, man. I'm glad you're somewhere

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you're happy now. Happier, for sure. It's getting

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to the point to my age, I guess, that you get

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to a point to where you either need to go live

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your dream, right? Like work to achieve it, work

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to achieve your dream, your dream career, or

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you need to just give up. I think that's what

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I feel like I'm at the point of my life. Like

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I'm in, I'm 31. I'm getting to that point to

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where it's like, I neither need to get my shit

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together and start doing some kind of schooling

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or training or get myself to whatever I need

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to do. Or I need to just shut up, put my head

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down and work at a factory my whole life. And

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I need to be okay with that. You know, I just

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feel. I don't know if I necessarily agree with

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that. Only because of how much stuff changes

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in 10 years, right? Let's say by the time you're

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40, you'd have no idea where your life's going

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to be by the time you're 40. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think that... I don't know that I, you know...

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I don't know if I'm pessimistic or what, but

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I don't know that I'm going to live that long.

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I know, I know. It is. It's a roll -your -eyes

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thing, but it's like... But like... 40, you're

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almost 80 at that point. Your life's over at

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40 almost. No, it's not. You've still got 50.

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You've still got 60. Dude, listen. By 50 and

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60, you're pretty much broken and dead. Not necessarily.

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Let's put it this way. You're in an RV traveling

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the country in your high denim shorts and Nike

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Monarchs. Listen. Listen, if you look at, okay,

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how long have you been an adult, right? You've

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been an adult for what? 13 years? Yeah, I should

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have had my shit down by now. But that's not

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even half your life. You haven't even been an

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adult for half your life yet. Yeah. How old have

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you got to hit? You got to be, what, 36 to have

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lived your life? Or for it to be half your life?

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Come on. Dude. You're doing good, man. five years

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i'm almost at half my life you literally just

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made it worse it takes like two no you made it

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worse you're like you're like you're almost half

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dead you might as well hear me out no that's

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not what i'm saying at all what i'm saying is

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that you haven't even been an adult for half

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your life half your or more than half your life

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you were still a kid so now with that knowledge

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uh ahead of you with that insight it takes one

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to two years to get yourself pretty squared away

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Yeah. I mean, I do understand that some people,

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you know, it just takes a second. Like, there's

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a lot of our family that didn't get their shit

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together until 35 or something. And then they

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started to really be successful. And that's what

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you saw of them. So that's what you just assumed

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their life would look like. Like, I understand

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comparison is the thief of joy. I get it. But

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I do also look at people that are like my sister,

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which she is just a very smart girl. Like, she's

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an amazing person. But she's also born in, like,

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99. And has a house. Has all this shit. Has her

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life pretty figured out on what she wants to

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do. And I'm like, damn. Like, I need to figure

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this stuff out myself. Like, where do I actually

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want to end up? Like, what do I want my career

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to be? and not just something i glorify either

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like a wildlife firefighter like i want to do

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that but then i like really deep dived into the

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scheduling and i'm like i don't want to do that

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the scheduling is the thing is like i don't want

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to be gone for that long i don't want to maybe

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not come back like i maybe not come back anyway

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like just my sleep apnea I just learned a trick

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about Zinc cans that I didn't know existed. There's

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tabs on the sides for you to squeeze to make

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them easier to open. LOL. For any other Zinc

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users. But yeah, there's my 15 minute I don't

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know what's going on with work. And that's my

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wrap for work plus complaining, I guess. I don't

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know. I'll complain a little bit. I don't see

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my farm lasting more than five years, so I think

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I need to figure something out quick. I just...

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You have good IT experience, though. You have

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some transferable skills. Do you know what good

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that does you in today's world? Listen, I went

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to school for IT, right? I did four years of

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schooling for IT. I got all these certs. I get

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out of the Army, and I find out that there's

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no fucking jobs anymore because they all went

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overseas. Okay, cool. Then we start working to

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bring the jobs back to the States, and AI takes

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over and replaces all the overseas jobs. There's

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no IT jobs left in the world. Like, they're all

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taken. They're all gone. Yeah. There's some,

00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:27.639
but they're not high -paying, like IT help desk

00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:32.330
and stuff like that that I've seen. Now it's

00:16:32.330 --> 00:16:35.070
kind of coming into where medical coders, if

00:16:35.070 --> 00:16:42.450
you can do medical coding, is good. Say anything

00:16:42.450 --> 00:16:45.309
coding is getting taken over by AI, they're starting

00:16:45.309 --> 00:16:52.309
to use AI to train AI. Yeah, I know. IT's dead,

00:16:52.429 --> 00:16:54.809
dude. Yeah, the thing to get into now, man, is

00:16:54.809 --> 00:16:59.669
probably any AI development is... because that's

00:16:59.669 --> 00:17:01.470
what's blowing up right now whether we like it

00:17:01.470 --> 00:17:05.089
or not but that's not what i went to school for

00:17:05.089 --> 00:17:07.329
i went to school for networking because you'll

00:17:07.329 --> 00:17:09.650
always have to be able to link computers together

00:17:09.650 --> 00:17:14.210
yeah well guess what ai does it now yeah so yeah

00:17:14.210 --> 00:17:19.390
it's i've got i've got a buddy uh he worked he

00:17:19.390 --> 00:17:23.289
he got a job with cisco just getting out of school

00:17:23.289 --> 00:17:26.750
right right went not cisco food cisco networking

00:17:26.750 --> 00:17:30.920
yeah um He worked with Cisco for almost 10 years

00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.460
and they just laid him off because they replaced

00:17:33.460 --> 00:17:36.619
almost all the positions with AI. Dude used to

00:17:36.619 --> 00:17:40.240
make 500 ,000 a year. Now he's looking at, he

00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.339
works at a help desk making 20 bucks an hour.

00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:48.519
Yeah. Like. Fucking robots taking our jobs. Clankers.

00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.119
Yeah. Fucking robot. Yeah. Clankers. They're

00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:54.920
taking our jobs. I. When I got out of the Army,

00:17:55.099 --> 00:17:57.460
I saw this writing on the wall, which is why

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I went into manufacturing and then now farming.

00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:05.539
You went into two other dying industries. Not

00:18:05.539 --> 00:18:08.880
really. Farming literally can't be killed. You

00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:10.720
literally can't kill agriculture. Small business

00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:14.839
farming, yes. It is being killed. But when I

00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:19.430
say manufacturing, I mean as a whole. They're

00:18:19.430 --> 00:18:22.109
figuring things out to, like, we took a walk

00:18:22.109 --> 00:18:24.910
through this new plant. Well, not new plant,

00:18:25.049 --> 00:18:29.230
but this new job for me. And he was talking about

00:18:29.230 --> 00:18:31.470
how many things that they have gotten robots

00:18:31.470 --> 00:18:36.069
to do that is new. They're like, oh, yeah, this

00:18:36.069 --> 00:18:39.849
one will run 15 hours a day, and then we'll run

00:18:39.849 --> 00:18:42.869
it two hours between first and second shift.

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And we have one guy running these five robots.

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To be fair, when I was in manufacturing, I was

00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:56.099
doing more managerial jobs. I wasn't on the floor.

00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.500
So it's like, and when you walk through this

00:18:59.500 --> 00:19:02.180
plant, you're seeing all these robots pop up.

00:19:02.259 --> 00:19:04.640
And even in the last little job that I had, it's

00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:08.480
like they replaced that in the last three years

00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:12.980
with robots. And that took four people's jobs.

00:19:13.259 --> 00:19:18.440
That one robot took four people's jobs. And so

00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:23.740
it's like everything's being modernized and what

00:19:23.740 --> 00:19:28.079
would you call that? Industrialized? Automized?

00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:34.700
Yeah, automized. Automated. When I worked at

00:19:34.700 --> 00:19:38.660
FRS, we had a bending robot. Well, we had a bunch

00:19:38.660 --> 00:19:41.900
of them, but one in particular. It was an arm

00:19:41.900 --> 00:19:45.099
that sat in the middle of the station. And it

00:19:45.099 --> 00:19:48.420
did every process. Two people could run a station

00:19:48.420 --> 00:19:51.339
that used to take 15 people because the arm would

00:19:51.339 --> 00:19:53.400
just pick up the tube, put it in the bender,

00:19:53.460 --> 00:19:55.140
bend it, put it in the next one, and just work

00:19:55.140 --> 00:19:58.099
around. The only reason you needed two people

00:19:58.099 --> 00:20:01.200
is sometimes the arm would miss, and then it

00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:02.940
would, like, misbend, and you had to have one

00:20:02.940 --> 00:20:05.900
person shut the robot off, go inside, and you

00:20:05.900 --> 00:20:08.420
had to have another person on the outside to

00:20:08.420 --> 00:20:10.380
make sure that the robot didn't turn itself back

00:20:10.380 --> 00:20:13.680
on. Yeah, I mean, with the place I was just down,

00:20:14.779 --> 00:20:17.140
They're making, they're jointing boards together.

00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:18.980
They have the machine to do it. They have the

00:20:18.980 --> 00:20:21.160
robot feeding it. They have the robot unloading

00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:24.259
it. And all you have to do is make sure you fed

00:20:24.259 --> 00:20:27.720
the wood pucks in to the joint it. Make sure

00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.980
that nothing jammed from the machine. And then

00:20:30.980 --> 00:20:32.980
make sure the robot didn't fuck up. And then

00:20:32.980 --> 00:20:36.460
load new stacks in. Dude, give them five years

00:20:36.460 --> 00:20:40.140
and that'll be completely automated. And you

00:20:40.140 --> 00:20:42.539
won't have to do anything there. Except load

00:20:42.539 --> 00:20:45.460
the stacks in. Cut the plastic off. It's crazy.

00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:54.680
Yeah, it's crazy how automation is taking over

00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.680
like this. Now, you look at that. There's other

00:20:57.680 --> 00:20:59.779
jobs where that literally can't happen, right?

00:21:00.299 --> 00:21:04.140
Agriculture. You can't automate a turkey farm.

00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.819
I mean, you can. Obviously, we've got automated

00:21:07.819 --> 00:21:10.519
curtains. We've got automated feed, automated

00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:14.630
water, automated temp control. You can't send

00:21:14.630 --> 00:21:17.069
a robot through to pick up dead turkeys. You

00:21:17.069 --> 00:21:19.049
can't train turkeys to walk to the front of the

00:21:19.049 --> 00:21:22.450
barns. You can't train robots to clean the poop

00:21:22.450 --> 00:21:25.069
correctly. You can't. It just doesn't work that

00:21:25.069 --> 00:21:26.890
way. Yeah, I mean, eventually they're just going

00:21:26.890 --> 00:21:30.369
to start putting big old pushers, push the turkeys

00:21:30.369 --> 00:21:33.309
into a side slot, and then they're just going

00:21:33.309 --> 00:21:37.130
to have a robot come in and scoop up the whole

00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:40.940
row of poop, the whole thing. clean it out robot

00:21:40.940 --> 00:21:43.180
will come back behind it like an asphalt paver

00:21:43.180 --> 00:21:47.640
and repave with sawdust and do you the doors

00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:49.619
i mean we kind of have that yeah that's kind

00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:51.720
of what our litter getter does yeah and eventually

00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.519
it'll just a person will be gone from that you'll

00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:57.799
have to have a person there no matter turkey's

00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:00.460
just one they don't respond well to technology

00:22:00.460 --> 00:22:03.440
in general like if you go in with the tractor

00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:07.319
they're already worked up um So you have to have

00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:09.140
a person there to kind of calm them down and

00:22:09.140 --> 00:22:11.740
settle them. Like, it just, it's not one of those

00:22:11.740 --> 00:22:14.200
jobs you can do that with. Now, that being said,

00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:17.039
there is some automation in it, right? Like,

00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:20.079
I've got, every barn has a computer that controls

00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.619
it. Oh, yeah, I know. I remember you getting

00:22:22.619 --> 00:22:25.900
calls with low temps or the fans are gone or

00:22:25.900 --> 00:22:28.759
whatever. Then I just get on my phone and fix

00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:31.799
it. Right, and if you look at, like, the farms

00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:35.190
in Iowa and stuff that are... you know, a couple

00:22:35.190 --> 00:22:39.670
hundred thousand acres of corn, they have tractors

00:22:39.670 --> 00:22:43.509
running off of memorized computers, self -driving

00:22:43.509 --> 00:22:47.109
that are running. They still, but they still

00:22:47.109 --> 00:22:51.589
have to have a person because like, so with the

00:22:51.589 --> 00:22:54.349
GPS. uh, tractors, which I've ran those before.

00:22:54.450 --> 00:22:56.890
They're pretty cool. Um, you enter, you know,

00:22:56.910 --> 00:22:59.289
the grid that you want it to do. Yeah. It starts

00:22:59.289 --> 00:23:01.690
doing it. You still have to be there because

00:23:01.690 --> 00:23:03.990
there's still a chance a deer runs out in front

00:23:03.990 --> 00:23:06.730
of you or a rabbit. You have to be able to respond

00:23:06.730 --> 00:23:10.329
to stuff that a machine, it's not going to detect

00:23:10.329 --> 00:23:12.410
it and be able to do it as fast. Yeah. I mean,

00:23:12.410 --> 00:23:15.589
if you're, if your house is like a hundred and

00:23:15.589 --> 00:23:18.230
some yards away from your start point, it is

00:23:18.230 --> 00:23:20.430
kind of nice. You go sit in your house and monitor

00:23:20.430 --> 00:23:23.039
it there on your computers. But, you know. I

00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.099
don't know. You still really got to be in there.

00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:28.900
Because there's just so many external situations

00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:31.420
that could happen. Right. But now people are

00:23:31.420 --> 00:23:33.160
completely leaving the cab of the tractor and

00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.200
just letting it go. When a problem occurs, it

00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.440
stops the tractor. They drive out to it. They

00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:41.599
fix the problem. They throw it back on. It's

00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.799
just getting crazier and crazier. And these big

00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.079
corporations are buying up all this land to do

00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.480
this. They're buying up the data centers. And

00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:55.180
I don't know, man, it's getting really hard to

00:23:55.180 --> 00:23:58.819
find land that isn't bought up by a conglomeration

00:23:58.819 --> 00:24:06.259
or corporation. What's left is overpriced. Yep.

00:24:06.460 --> 00:24:11.319
Tell me why in our county an acre is looking

00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.640
at like $12 ,000 an acre for our county. Oh,

00:24:15.660 --> 00:24:18.339
it depends on where you're at. If you're over

00:24:18.339 --> 00:24:20.619
in your area there by Spruce, I could see that

00:24:20.619 --> 00:24:23.619
for sure. Yeah, well, it's closer to 10 ,000

00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:26.859
to 11 ,000 right now, but I generalized up a

00:24:26.859 --> 00:24:29.680
little higher because of, you know. When you

00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:32.240
get out towards like Bridgeton area where it's

00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:35.019
all woods with like hills and stuff, you're only

00:24:35.019 --> 00:24:39.019
looking at like 7 ,000 an acre. Still, that's

00:24:39.019 --> 00:24:43.680
a lot per acre for just dead land. Most of my

00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.730
life. Wooded hilly areas have been about $6 ,000

00:24:46.730 --> 00:24:49.450
to $7 ,000 an acre. Well, yeah, but in this area.

00:24:49.569 --> 00:24:57.029
But there was a land that was up in the UP last

00:24:57.029 --> 00:24:59.730
year, I think it was, that was selling for about

00:24:59.730 --> 00:25:05.890
$105 ,000. And it was 120 acres of wooded land.

00:25:06.329 --> 00:25:09.150
And it's like, OK, so that's almost a little

00:25:09.150 --> 00:25:13.490
over $1 ,000 an acre. That's like what? It used

00:25:13.490 --> 00:25:19.130
to be, you know, before our time. See, I remember

00:25:19.130 --> 00:25:23.569
when I was a senior. Yeah. Well, then you have

00:25:23.569 --> 00:25:25.369
to adjust it with inflation, too. Yeah, of course.

00:25:25.369 --> 00:25:27.529
And adjust it with inflation. Inflation stuff.

00:25:27.529 --> 00:25:30.410
Adjust it with inflation. Honestly, the price

00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:32.990
of land itself has not gone up. The price of

00:25:32.990 --> 00:25:36.869
housing has. I think because of all of the...

00:25:36.869 --> 00:25:40.029
I think that, personally, I think that land has

00:25:40.029 --> 00:25:43.230
gone up, but only because... there are so many

00:25:43.230 --> 00:25:47.730
people buying land for development, like subdivisions

00:25:47.730 --> 00:25:49.549
and that, and that it's, it's getting harder

00:25:49.549 --> 00:25:53.910
to find. Yes. Now developable land, which would

00:25:53.910 --> 00:25:58.029
be, you know, fields, farms, stuff like that.

00:25:58.150 --> 00:26:01.049
Those prices have gone up. Sure. But if you're

00:26:01.049 --> 00:26:03.250
just, if you're just looking for a wooded lot

00:26:03.250 --> 00:26:06.190
to throw a camper on, the price of that has not

00:26:06.190 --> 00:26:08.789
changed a whole lot. Well, the other problem

00:26:08.789 --> 00:26:12.089
is developers coming in. building a subdivision

00:26:12.089 --> 00:26:13.970
like the one we have that's being built up here

00:26:13.970 --> 00:26:18.369
in grant and that raises everybody's property

00:26:18.369 --> 00:26:22.470
taxes up that raises the value of the area which

00:26:22.470 --> 00:26:27.349
then raises the land purchase value and you know

00:26:27.349 --> 00:26:30.930
it's naturally that's going to happen as grand

00:26:30.930 --> 00:26:34.029
rapids continues to grow and push out this way

00:26:34.029 --> 00:26:39.319
i mean Not to sound awful here, but when I was

00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:42.140
growing up, we had one to two people that were

00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:43.920
from the Grand Rapids area. And you can tell

00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.420
when they're from Grand Rapids or Detroit based

00:26:46.420 --> 00:26:48.960
on skin color. OK, I'll just leave it at that.

00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:53.700
And I'd say in the last five years, that population

00:26:53.700 --> 00:26:58.000
has like 100 times. Not that it's a problem,

00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:00.299
but you can see that people are moving up from

00:27:00.299 --> 00:27:03.829
Grand Rapids and Detroit, which. why would they

00:27:03.829 --> 00:27:06.049
be moving? It's because grand Rapids is pushing

00:27:06.049 --> 00:27:10.210
farther and farther this way with their, yeah.

00:27:11.230 --> 00:27:13.650
So that's going to naturally make our price or

00:27:13.650 --> 00:27:17.029
values go up because we need more and more, um,

00:27:17.130 --> 00:27:20.190
housing for these people that are, as the city

00:27:20.190 --> 00:27:22.150
grows, they're moving away from the city cause

00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:25.049
they want to be close, but not too close. Right.

00:27:25.190 --> 00:27:29.950
I just realized that. And I'm pretty sure you've

00:27:29.950 --> 00:27:34.380
been hearing every time I cough, huh? Oh, yeah,

00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.099
I have. Yeah. So I've been muting my microphone

00:27:37.099 --> 00:27:41.960
every time I cough and realizing now that it's

00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.880
selected on my Fifine headset and not my Samson

00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:50.960
Q2U microphone. So my microphone's still working

00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:54.299
and everything. It's just, yeah, that sucks.

00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:58.480
Sorry, everybody, for hearing the coughing. i'm

00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.500
still recovering from my last job with getting

00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:05.059
sick from all the dust and shit so still getting

00:28:05.059 --> 00:28:08.460
over that but but yeah no i mean it's getting

00:28:08.460 --> 00:28:11.259
harder i mean and maybe we'll talk about this

00:28:11.259 --> 00:28:12.940
a little bit touch on this a little bit next

00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:18.059
episode the longer um but ah this is the longer

00:28:18.059 --> 00:28:20.460
one at this point we're on a roll yeah but so

00:28:20.460 --> 00:28:22.799
okay well then maybe i'll just you want me to

00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.640
just go into that now what we were talking about

00:28:25.230 --> 00:28:27.670
Yeah, go into whatever you want to. Well, so

00:28:27.670 --> 00:28:30.930
me and my wife, as we've talked about in probably

00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:33.329
much earlier episodes at this point this season,

00:28:33.549 --> 00:28:36.730
because I've been gone for a bit, have been talking

00:28:36.730 --> 00:28:41.769
about moving and moving to somewhere more scenic

00:28:41.769 --> 00:28:45.809
with more opportunity as far as wildlife and

00:28:45.809 --> 00:28:51.230
traveling to the areas where we want to be. So

00:28:51.230 --> 00:28:55.240
I'm thinking Idaho Panhandle. I'm pretty set

00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.759
on Idaho Panhandle right now. Idaho has kind

00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:03.240
of the laws that we like. It's kind of the best

00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.779
mix and the area that we want to sit in. We're

00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:09.599
looking at a place called Bonner's Ferry, Idaho.

00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:16.839
It's pretty much snow -wise, temp -wise, and

00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:23.059
demographic -wise very similar to Grant. Almost

00:29:23.059 --> 00:29:28.339
a population. Okay. The snow is about the same

00:29:28.339 --> 00:29:33.420
as Grand Rapids. It's a small town. It might

00:29:33.420 --> 00:29:37.259
be a little bit smaller population. What's the

00:29:37.259 --> 00:29:40.099
population? Yeah, I got to look it up here real

00:29:40.099 --> 00:29:45.880
quick. But there's a town about 30 -ish minutes

00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.900
away. It's the bigger town called Sandpoint.

00:29:51.130 --> 00:29:55.250
It would be our Fremont, basically. Oh, dude,

00:29:55.410 --> 00:29:57.809
they're more than three times the population

00:29:57.809 --> 00:30:00.410
of Grant. Oh, well, I meant more like Nuevo.

00:30:00.890 --> 00:30:05.970
You know what I mean? Oh, okay. Yeah, let's see.

00:30:06.049 --> 00:30:08.690
What are there? 2 ,800 people approximately in

00:30:08.690 --> 00:30:14.170
Bonner's Ferry. Yeah. Let's see. Nuevo population.

00:30:16.369 --> 00:30:19.430
Yeah, 2 ,500 people approximately in Nuevo, Michigan.

00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.619
So, yeah, I thought I was I was thinking Grant

00:30:23.619 --> 00:30:25.880
because, you know, you do live in Grant. And

00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.799
I'm like, Grant's got 700 people. When I tell

00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.500
people where I live, I just say Nuevo. And then

00:30:32.500 --> 00:30:34.259
if they say, oh, I know where Nuevo is, I go,

00:30:34.339 --> 00:30:37.160
yeah, Grant. And that's how I always tell people.

00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.539
I say Grant. And then when they say I've never

00:30:40.539 --> 00:30:43.779
heard of that, I say it's like 50 minutes south

00:30:43.779 --> 00:30:45.299
of Nuevo. And they're like, oh, I know where

00:30:45.299 --> 00:30:47.420
Nuevo is at. Yeah. So I always start with Nuevo

00:30:47.420 --> 00:30:49.680
first. And if they say, oh, I know where that's

00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:54.319
at. I'd just say Grant. But, yeah. I mean, geographically,

00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:59.140
it's very different. But weather, you know, the

00:30:59.140 --> 00:31:06.819
snow's not bad. I think they use less salt. Pretty

00:31:06.819 --> 00:31:09.880
much anywhere out west does. Yeah. So, you know,

00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:13.440
and it's got mountains. Like, so from Siena's

00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.559
AutoZone, I'm already saying that, but, like.

00:31:17.230 --> 00:31:19.450
From the AutoZone that Sienna would work at,

00:31:19.509 --> 00:31:21.869
which there's an AutoZone in Bonner's Ferry,

00:31:21.950 --> 00:31:25.509
so she could transfer there. And there's a tractor

00:31:25.509 --> 00:31:28.170
supply, which is my fallback, that I could transfer

00:31:28.170 --> 00:31:32.990
to. And her AutoZone, you could see mountains

00:31:32.990 --> 00:31:37.529
from her AutoZone. Like, how fucking crazy cool

00:31:37.529 --> 00:31:41.430
is that? Like, I was showing her last night because

00:31:41.430 --> 00:31:45.150
we were talking a little bit about it. And then...

00:31:46.349 --> 00:31:50.390
I ran across this morning. I ran across a house

00:31:50.390 --> 00:31:55.690
for rent for $550 a month. And it was like a

00:31:55.690 --> 00:31:58.950
two bed, one bath. And I was like, if this was

00:31:58.950 --> 00:32:00.890
real, I'm not, I wasn't sure because I didn't

00:32:00.890 --> 00:32:02.930
call anyone or like actually look into it. But

00:32:02.930 --> 00:32:05.630
like, I'm like, if this is the actual rent of

00:32:05.630 --> 00:32:09.710
this house per month, I'm like, yeah, that is

00:32:09.710 --> 00:32:15.500
completely doable. The. Average pay is about

00:32:15.500 --> 00:32:18.859
the same in our area. So the only thing we're

00:32:18.859 --> 00:32:21.559
kind of changing, other than the only thing that

00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.660
kind of sucks is Idaho's minimum wage is like

00:32:23.660 --> 00:32:26.000
$7 .35. It's federal minimum wage. That's our

00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.539
minimum wage. No, ours is $13. Oh, no, they changed

00:32:29.539 --> 00:32:31.319
it. I forgot. They changed it like two years

00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.400
ago. Michigan's minimum wage is like $13. It

00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:40.000
was like $7 for a long time. So you might get

00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:45.660
some lower paying jobs there. typically the average

00:32:45.660 --> 00:32:48.859
job, the average salary is pretty similar to

00:32:48.859 --> 00:32:52.259
the same as ours. The real downside is that housing

00:32:52.259 --> 00:32:58.559
costs are way more expensive in Idaho. See, it

00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:02.720
just, it blows my mind that like, I get it how

00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.339
much you like mountains, right? But it makes

00:33:05.339 --> 00:33:07.980
me laugh so much because I, when I think of mountains,

00:33:08.019 --> 00:33:10.259
I'm like, oh yeah, you know, I always see mountains

00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:13.299
until I came home because everywhere I've lived,

00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.079
Everywhere you're at, you see mountains. Yeah,

00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:17.960
dude. Well, it's just the scenery. It's the mountains,

00:33:18.059 --> 00:33:22.700
the greenery. In Botner's Ferry, you're about

00:33:22.700 --> 00:33:26.279
40 minutes from British Columbia. You're about

00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:30.220
50 to an hour and a half from Alberta. You're

00:33:30.220 --> 00:33:35.779
about an hour from, is it Oregon? The next state,

00:33:35.779 --> 00:33:41.079
Oregon? And then about an hour or so from, I

00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:47.759
believe it's Montana. So we have Montana, Canada,

00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:53.900
and Oregon to explore, all within an hour or

00:33:53.900 --> 00:33:57.039
two. And then we have southern Idaho, which is

00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:06.380
a whole different geographical area. So to me,

00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.030
this is kind of like the perfect place. yeah

00:34:10.030 --> 00:34:12.829
um for travel because if you look at the translation

00:34:12.829 --> 00:34:17.650
to like hours in michigan to where you want to

00:34:17.650 --> 00:34:21.429
be to hours in idaho like if we want to go over

00:34:21.429 --> 00:34:26.590
the bridge from here it's four hours we could

00:34:26.590 --> 00:34:29.170
be pretty well into british columbia if we were

00:34:29.170 --> 00:34:32.449
there we could be into oregon we could be into

00:34:32.449 --> 00:34:35.829
montana we could be into kind of southern idaho

00:34:35.829 --> 00:34:40.769
ish mid to southern idaho so That's like my thought

00:34:40.769 --> 00:34:45.030
process on that. This whole time we've been saying

00:34:45.030 --> 00:34:47.269
this, I've just been scrolling through pictures

00:34:47.269 --> 00:34:50.469
from before I came back home. Yeah. Just trying

00:34:50.469 --> 00:34:52.250
to see how many of them have mountains in them.

00:34:52.309 --> 00:34:54.849
Every single outdoor picture has mountains in

00:34:54.849 --> 00:34:58.769
it. Oh, yeah, dude. I mean, and I just, that's

00:34:58.769 --> 00:35:00.750
when I think of where I want to live. It's a

00:35:00.750 --> 00:35:03.429
place that's got mountains, you know? It's got

00:35:03.429 --> 00:35:08.980
mountains. It's got wet green. Here, this is

00:35:08.980 --> 00:35:11.760
the most mundane picture of just the inside of

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:18.460
my truck, right? In the background, mountains.

00:35:21.900 --> 00:35:28.820
Yeah, okay. Yep. So, like, to me, you know, I'm

00:35:28.820 --> 00:35:31.480
not... Everywhere I've been, there have been

00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.460
mountains, you know? So, to me, mountains are

00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:37.579
just part of the landscape. Right. And so, like,

00:35:37.579 --> 00:35:39.619
I want a place that's got, like, cliff edges,

00:35:39.699 --> 00:35:45.380
rocks, like, in our area that's not very prominent.

00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.500
Yeah, no. We live on a clay mud ball. Yeah. So

00:35:51.500 --> 00:35:53.860
I sent a couple pictures of, like, the Bonners

00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:57.860
Ferry area. There's an aerial view of Bonners

00:35:57.860 --> 00:35:59.579
Ferry. It's funny. It's right on the river, too,

00:35:59.659 --> 00:36:04.639
like Nuego is. It's almost uncanny how similar

00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:09.489
it is. But it's just beautiful, and there are

00:36:09.489 --> 00:36:13.469
trails really close within an hour, and they're

00:36:13.469 --> 00:36:17.769
good trails. And it's like, yeah, that's beautiful.

00:36:19.269 --> 00:36:23.469
The Jeep, too. Yeah, I miss that truck. I never

00:36:23.469 --> 00:36:26.429
should have sold that. Never, ever. That's where

00:36:26.429 --> 00:36:30.360
I lived in Arizona. The whole area, dude. Like,

00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.780
I get it, it's a desert, but it was so green

00:36:32.780 --> 00:36:35.599
and just beautiful. Yeah. Temp was never over

00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.559
75. We got snow, obviously. The picture I sent

00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:41.460
you had snow in it. Not that the listeners can

00:36:41.460 --> 00:36:46.019
see that. I don't know. If I could move, I'd

00:36:46.019 --> 00:36:48.739
probably move back to Sierra Vista, Tucson area.

00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:51.280
Yeah. Probably not quite Tucson. It'd have to

00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.679
be south of Tucson, but... And there's some really

00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.219
cool and beautiful houses, but you're looking

00:36:57.219 --> 00:37:01.639
at... Our biggest thing right now is housing

00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.460
prices in Idaho. Everybody wants to move west.

00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.219
Everyone wants to go to Montana, Idaho, Oregon

00:37:07.219 --> 00:37:14.360
-ish, Washington -ish. And you're kind of getting

00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.179
a mass move out of that, too. But people in Washington,

00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:21.139
Oregon are kind of leaving, too. But either way,

00:37:21.260 --> 00:37:25.300
there's a mass migration to the west, and everybody

00:37:25.300 --> 00:37:28.000
kind of knows it. yellowstone kind of ruined

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:32.280
it and everybody wants to get out there everyone

00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.820
wants to be a part of that and i've always wanted

00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:37.199
to before this it was not like i watched a tv

00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.139
show and was like i want to do that but like

00:37:40.139 --> 00:37:42.800
i don't want to be like a rancher or anything

00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.760
although after going to the petting zoo a couple

00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.980
goats would be cool um you don't want goats trust

00:37:50.980 --> 00:37:53.340
me oh man they're they're cool i'll take a sheep

00:37:53.340 --> 00:37:56.110
or something goats There you go. Sheep are cool.

00:37:56.489 --> 00:37:58.510
Goats like to climb on things and destroy them.

00:37:58.590 --> 00:38:01.909
Yeah. Sienna love those baby goats. And their

00:38:01.909 --> 00:38:04.710
poop doesn't degrade for like seven years. So

00:38:04.710 --> 00:38:06.510
wherever they're at, there's always little pellets

00:38:06.510 --> 00:38:11.349
forever. For sure. But yeah. So, I mean, I thought

00:38:11.349 --> 00:38:15.070
if, you know, we pay, we pay off my truck and

00:38:15.070 --> 00:38:20.889
I owe $5 ,000 on my truck right now. So by the

00:38:20.889 --> 00:38:24.980
end of this year, well, not this year, but. Sometime

00:38:24.980 --> 00:38:26.840
next spring, summer -ish, it'll be paid off.

00:38:27.059 --> 00:38:31.800
Yeah. And I'm like, okay, so that's $550 a month.

00:38:32.980 --> 00:38:35.880
I was like, if we took that with our current

00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.559
salaries and used the rest of that money to start

00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:41.320
paying off debt, we could have our debt paid

00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.539
off, our credit be better. And then we start

00:38:44.539 --> 00:38:47.820
saving some money for a move. I said, maybe,

00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.579
because I talked to Sienna about this. I'm like,

00:38:51.619 --> 00:38:54.599
well, how about we do one to two year. plan be

00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.380
a house in michigan five to ten year be moving

00:38:59.380 --> 00:39:04.440
to idaho she's like yeah sounds good and then

00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.980
i'm like right now with housing markets the apr

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:10.519
and stuff i'm super worried about getting stuck

00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.960
into a house in michigan and sucked into that

00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:17.739
because once you start paying that 15 to 2000

00:39:17.739 --> 00:39:21.320
mortgage you're sucked into that you don't get

00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.139
a lot of money to save for anything else unless

00:39:23.139 --> 00:39:25.340
we start getting really better jobs pretty quick

00:39:25.340 --> 00:39:28.880
as i and the other the thing to think is though

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.800
if you if you're gonna move into a house buy

00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.079
one don't rent it because then when you leave

00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.960
you can rent it and make more money off it well

00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.079
and i i thought about that too of just buying

00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.380
a house and renting it out for a little bit more

00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:48.000
than what we have to pay for mortgage just to

00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.039
have a little bit of extra But then we still

00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.940
have to do the maintenance on it, and it's just...

00:39:52.940 --> 00:39:57.199
It's like double. Yeah. You're supposed to charge

00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.039
double what your mortgage is. Well, that's the

00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.139
thing is if our mortgage is $1 ,500 a month,

00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.659
I cannot expect anybody in Noago County to pay

00:40:04.659 --> 00:40:07.480
$3 ,000 a month for rent for a house. That's

00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.320
high for us. Dude, that's average rent around

00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.579
here. That's high, man. I've been looking at

00:40:12.579 --> 00:40:16.340
places right now in Noago that are like $1 ,200

00:40:16.340 --> 00:40:21.170
for a house. Are they like in town? I couldn't

00:40:21.170 --> 00:40:22.929
tell you exactly. I know that I've looked at

00:40:22.929 --> 00:40:26.050
the prices. I know there was one exactly that

00:40:26.050 --> 00:40:31.429
was in town. Yes. Yeah. And I wouldn't really

00:40:31.429 --> 00:40:34.769
care at that point. They're probably like two

00:40:34.769 --> 00:40:37.690
to three bedroom too. Well, shit, it's better

00:40:37.690 --> 00:40:41.190
than the housing costs right now. And Idaho is

00:40:41.190 --> 00:40:43.710
like one to two bedroom. You're looking at like

00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:50.500
$500 ,000. Yeah. You could get a trailer for

00:40:50.500 --> 00:40:53.139
pretty cheap, but you're still looking at like

00:40:53.139 --> 00:41:00.119
$150 ,000 to $70 ,000. So, yeah, I mean, there's

00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:06.699
a lot of cool, old -looking, somewhat away -from

00:41:06.699 --> 00:41:09.119
-civilization log cabins and shit like that.

00:41:09.219 --> 00:41:12.360
A lot of that cool stuff where you could tell

00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.719
someone probably had the idea to do that and

00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.460
then was like, eh, I don't like this that much

00:41:16.460 --> 00:41:20.320
and left. But these places are going up for,

00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:26.340
I mean, you're looking at $300 ,000 to $700 ,000

00:41:26.340 --> 00:41:31.880
for, I'm not looking for anything super fancy,

00:41:31.940 --> 00:41:35.380
but that's just kind of what things are kind

00:41:35.380 --> 00:41:39.760
of going for. I don't know. I am going to be

00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.260
buying a fifth wheel this year because when I

00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:44.059
quit my job in a year, we're moving into a fifth

00:41:44.059 --> 00:41:47.940
wheel. i might not be the one to talk to about

00:41:47.940 --> 00:41:51.340
property well yeah i mean i thought about just

00:41:51.340 --> 00:41:53.599
buying property and putting a fifth wheel and

00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.019
stuff on it but it's one of those things too

00:41:56.019 --> 00:41:59.519
i'm like all that money we spend on maintaining

00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.400
the property and the property in the fifth wheel

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.519
is gonna really pull away from like what we could

00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.340
save for a mortgage and a new house and building

00:42:09.340 --> 00:42:11.949
i'm just buying I'm just buying a fifth wheel

00:42:11.949 --> 00:42:13.530
and putting it on my brother's property. I'm

00:42:13.530 --> 00:42:17.369
not even paying to maintain it. Right. So, I

00:42:17.369 --> 00:42:19.510
don't know. It's something that we have to talk

00:42:19.510 --> 00:42:22.550
about. And it's like, you know, it goes back

00:42:22.550 --> 00:42:24.510
to earlier in this episode where I talked about

00:42:24.510 --> 00:42:26.309
what do I really want to do with my life. It's

00:42:26.309 --> 00:42:28.789
like, if I really want to chase this YouTube

00:42:28.789 --> 00:42:32.170
thing, if I really want to try to chase that

00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:34.989
a little bit better, you know. Sean and some

00:42:34.989 --> 00:42:36.949
of those other guys are older dudes. And they

00:42:36.949 --> 00:42:41.090
got into this, you know, at my age now. and have

00:42:41.090 --> 00:42:43.449
just now kind of started getting to a really

00:42:43.449 --> 00:42:48.590
good spot. I've talked to Baker about doing an

00:42:48.590 --> 00:42:54.289
episode. Have we ever had Baker on? No. But,

00:42:54.409 --> 00:42:57.730
you know, it goes into that to where, like, if

00:42:57.730 --> 00:43:02.949
I start now, and I practice, and I do it, and

00:43:02.949 --> 00:43:05.309
I'm in a place where the content and the view

00:43:05.309 --> 00:43:11.159
is really good, then... I feel like I have potential

00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:16.000
if I'm being honest and maybe you might feel

00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.079
differently, but like, I feel like Michigan as

00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:26.239
the blank canvas for an overlanding channel gets

00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:31.480
kind of outshined by everybody out West view

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:38.039
wise. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Sorry,

00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:42.219
I'm messaging Baker. I see that now. So if you

00:43:42.219 --> 00:43:44.039
look at the views of Michigan, Michigan is absolutely

00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.739
beautiful. Don't get me wrong. There's a lot

00:43:46.739 --> 00:43:51.920
to see, but there are no real mountains. I'm

00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.539
not including West UP. I just mean kind of lower

00:43:55.539 --> 00:43:58.360
peninsula as a whole where we live. Yeah. No

00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.519
mountains. There's some dunes, but once you've

00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:03.400
been to them a few times, it's kind of you've

00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.400
done it. You've been there. It's a fuck ton of

00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.719
sand. I think the Manistee National Forest is

00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:12.300
absolutely beautiful. I do too. And there's a

00:44:12.300 --> 00:44:15.599
hell of a lot of stuff to do. I do too, but in

00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.460
my eyes, Manistee National Forest is kind of

00:44:20.460 --> 00:44:24.360
a dime a dozen when it comes to places out west

00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.820
that are similar. From what I've seen, from the

00:44:28.820 --> 00:44:31.900
trails and stuff that I've seen done, I feel

00:44:31.900 --> 00:44:35.460
like for the same amount of land, that we have

00:44:35.460 --> 00:44:39.119
to explore there's better quality land in other

00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:44.739
areas like i can go 40 minutes to a giant waterfall

00:44:44.739 --> 00:44:49.820
in bonners ferry on a trail and i could go 40

00:44:49.820 --> 00:44:52.659
minutes here and i will get to a pond or a lake

00:44:52.659 --> 00:44:56.900
do you want to know what's funny is uh if you

00:44:56.900 --> 00:44:59.760
talk to someone who grew up in bonners ferry

00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.449
or in that area They'd probably tell you the

00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:03.849
same thing. Oh, absolutely. You'd be like, yeah,

00:45:03.869 --> 00:45:06.289
you know. Like, it's just, it's how it works,

00:45:06.309 --> 00:45:08.510
man. Yeah, I know. You get used to what you've

00:45:08.510 --> 00:45:10.630
got in your area, and then you kind of lose sight

00:45:10.630 --> 00:45:12.570
of how beautiful the area you're in actually

00:45:12.570 --> 00:45:16.510
is. You get really complacent, yeah. And, you

00:45:16.510 --> 00:45:18.309
know, it's funny, because we'd go on our one

00:45:18.309 --> 00:45:21.250
-week trips up to the UP. We'd come down, and

00:45:21.250 --> 00:45:23.409
we'd drive through Bill's Lake area on Spruce.

00:45:24.349 --> 00:45:26.590
And every time we'd come back, it's usually later,

00:45:26.690 --> 00:45:29.610
so the sun's starting to set. Sun's setting right

00:45:29.610 --> 00:45:32.440
on the lake water. And I look at CNN, I go, you

00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:34.719
know, we really don't live in such a, like a,

00:45:34.739 --> 00:45:38.699
like, this is a pretty beautiful spot. Yeah.

00:45:38.860 --> 00:45:43.000
But, you know, as far as content goes, you can

00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:45.880
only film that fucking lake how many times? You

00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.559
can only film, you know, the dunes so many times.

00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.000
You can only film the bridge so many times. I

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.719
don't know, dude. There are, there is, there

00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:59.170
are hundreds. of channels on YouTube that are

00:45:59.170 --> 00:46:02.429
just people playing in Silver Lake. Yeah. But

00:46:02.429 --> 00:46:05.110
that's their thing. They get, they get hundreds

00:46:05.110 --> 00:46:07.269
of thousands of views doing it. Right. But that's

00:46:07.269 --> 00:46:10.969
their thing. When I, like when, if it's my content,

00:46:11.050 --> 00:46:15.289
like camping gear and overlanding, I can only

00:46:15.289 --> 00:46:18.809
go to, you know, the dunes for, you know, playing

00:46:18.809 --> 00:46:21.489
and stuff, but it's not like, that's not going

00:46:21.489 --> 00:46:25.269
to be the majority of my content. So it's like,

00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.539
I don't know, when I watch other people's videos

00:46:28.539 --> 00:46:32.179
and I see the absolute stunning views, that's

00:46:32.179 --> 00:46:35.260
one of the biggest reasons that I watch. It's

00:46:35.260 --> 00:46:38.400
not necessarily the trucks, it's not even the

00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:42.739
people behind the camera talking or narrating.

00:46:44.380 --> 00:46:47.019
We just talked about Baker earlier, so I'll use

00:46:47.019 --> 00:46:49.760
him for example, but it's the scenes and the

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.480
shots they set up and the beautiful scenery that

00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.260
they... capture along the way like baker when

00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:59.659
he goes down to the ozarks like holy shit absolutely

00:46:59.659 --> 00:47:03.900
speaking speaking of ozarks i guess you just

00:47:03.900 --> 00:47:05.179
started a new job you're not gonna be able to

00:47:05.179 --> 00:47:11.539
get time off not this year yeah i'll say as my

00:47:11.539 --> 00:47:14.219
wife isn't going so i need a wrong seat driver

00:47:14.219 --> 00:47:17.039
when i go down there because i need someone to

00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.559
rotate off with for that 10 hour drive down there

00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:25.769
yeah um I mean, I do have the fall cryptid camp,

00:47:25.989 --> 00:47:29.969
but that is pretty much, that's a weekend thing,

00:47:30.090 --> 00:47:33.250
so I'm already good on that. Right. I mean, I

00:47:33.250 --> 00:47:36.150
could try to talk to them about it, and they

00:47:36.150 --> 00:47:38.230
try to be pretty understandable, so maybe they

00:47:38.230 --> 00:47:46.150
would, but I don't know right now. I know my

00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:50.070
camera's been sitting up on my computer for going

00:47:50.070 --> 00:47:53.500
on two months. I haven't touched it. i've had

00:47:53.500 --> 00:47:58.179
a lot going on but there you have i i know that

00:47:58.179 --> 00:48:02.420
this is what i want to do like i want to explore

00:48:02.420 --> 00:48:05.900
i want to do trails i want to camp but i need

00:48:05.900 --> 00:48:10.760
to find a way to incorporate my wife's likes

00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:13.980
too if that makes sense like yeah i need to i

00:48:13.980 --> 00:48:21.300
need to shift a little like maybe Maybe rustic

00:48:21.300 --> 00:48:26.820
camping every weekend isn't my wife's idea of

00:48:26.820 --> 00:48:32.179
a great time. Every weekend. It's not my wife's

00:48:32.179 --> 00:48:34.099
idea of a great time either. That's why she doesn't

00:48:34.099 --> 00:48:36.480
go with me every time. Yeah, but I like to include

00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.920
my wife with me. I feel guilty when she misses

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:43.820
something and we have fun. So it's like I want

00:48:43.820 --> 00:48:46.179
her to come. I don't want her to sit at home

00:48:46.179 --> 00:48:49.440
all weekend and read books or some shit. I want

00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.400
her to be out there with us, you know, exploring.

00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.699
So, you know, every once in a while, maybe a

00:48:55.699 --> 00:49:00.880
really rustic Airbnb, and maybe her mind would

00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.000
change a little bit if the scenery was absolutely,

00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.159
you know, breathtaking. We've had a couple spots,

00:49:06.380 --> 00:49:10.960
like a certain beach in the UP where we camp

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:15.840
near, where she was like, wow, this is great.

00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.420
And I was like, ah. that's what I want to start

00:49:19.420 --> 00:49:21.380
hearing. Like, you know, that's the reactions

00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:24.639
I want to start hearing. Not like, oh, this camp

00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.679
will do. You know, nothing special about it.

00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.500
It's just nestled back in the woods and a shit

00:49:31.500 --> 00:49:35.739
ton of grass. So, I don't know. That's kind of

00:49:35.739 --> 00:49:37.360
what I want to try to get into. I want to try

00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:43.500
to start finding some nicer areas, some Airbnbs.

00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:48.980
Maybe start doing more... touristy kind of things

00:49:48.980 --> 00:49:51.500
in these old towns because i do really enjoy

00:49:51.500 --> 00:49:55.960
old towns like maybe i'm lord knows we got a

00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:58.840
lot of those yeah and out west fuck even more

00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:02.539
like but no there's way more old towns here than

00:50:02.539 --> 00:50:05.800
out west well maybe left now but yeah i think

00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:10.539
you're right like on a very large margin there's

00:50:10.539 --> 00:50:13.000
more old towns here which you got to think that

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.360
makes sense because we've been in court or we've

00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.360
been around a lot longer than out west as i think

00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.460
in a lot of ways yeah i think but uh out west

00:50:22.460 --> 00:50:27.219
a lot of those towns were abandoned too you know

00:50:27.219 --> 00:50:31.360
with gold rush and mining expeditions and all

00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.659
those only got a hand there's only a handful

00:50:33.659 --> 00:50:36.400
of those out west right left over now but like

00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.159
back then there was a lot more i'm talking a

00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.550
lot of that's been A lot of that's been wiped

00:50:41.550 --> 00:50:43.769
out and reincorporated into another city. Yeah,

00:50:43.789 --> 00:50:46.449
that's what I'm saying. We have a lot more now

00:50:46.449 --> 00:50:49.909
that are actually still standing. We have a lot

00:50:49.909 --> 00:50:52.469
more old towns with old stuff for you to do.

00:50:52.889 --> 00:50:55.829
Whereas when you go out west, I'm not saying

00:50:55.829 --> 00:50:58.289
there aren't old towns out west. You know, Bisbee,

00:50:58.369 --> 00:51:00.789
Arizona is absolutely beautiful and it's old

00:51:00.789 --> 00:51:05.710
as hell. But it's a lot less common than it is

00:51:05.710 --> 00:51:08.610
here. Like most of your towns out west, you're

00:51:08.610 --> 00:51:10.809
looking at... Cities like Tucson or Phoenix.

00:51:11.809 --> 00:51:15.809
You're not looking at old areas to be in. You're

00:51:15.809 --> 00:51:18.889
looking at relatively new constructions. And

00:51:18.889 --> 00:51:21.250
it doesn't matter. Here, I feel the same way

00:51:21.250 --> 00:51:24.570
in Michigan to visiting old towns. I love walking

00:51:24.570 --> 00:51:27.610
the old town streets. I love going to these old

00:51:27.610 --> 00:51:31.909
gift shops and shit and museums and stuff like

00:51:31.909 --> 00:51:35.789
that. Usually, up north, it's a little bit more

00:51:35.789 --> 00:51:38.610
prominent because it's so touristy. But there's

00:51:38.610 --> 00:51:41.710
always those knick -knack touristy old rock and

00:51:41.710 --> 00:51:45.530
gem and antique shops, and they're fucking fun.

00:51:46.670 --> 00:51:49.429
You know, it's funny with you saying that, even.

00:51:50.070 --> 00:51:53.010
That's kind of how it is here. Like, we are the

00:51:53.010 --> 00:51:55.130
tourist destination for people south of us. Oh,

00:51:55.130 --> 00:51:57.690
for sure. That's why there's so many antique

00:51:57.690 --> 00:52:01.389
shops in, like, Nuevo. Yeah. Because it is an

00:52:01.389 --> 00:52:05.659
old city. It is an old town. But we don't go

00:52:05.659 --> 00:52:07.860
to those places because we're not touristing

00:52:07.860 --> 00:52:09.960
when we're here. I don't know. I mean, I've been

00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:12.960
to them. Like, there's the Finders Keepers, the

00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.539
old church that was in... Finders Keepers isn't

00:52:16.539 --> 00:52:19.500
really... No, there's actual antique shops downtown.

00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:21.880
Finders Keepers is an antique shop. Well, the

00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:25.500
antique shops are not really as prominent anymore.

00:52:25.579 --> 00:52:29.360
It's more of, like, consignment booths where,

00:52:29.420 --> 00:52:31.860
like, people bring in their stuff. Like, there's,

00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:34.840
like, three of them now. There's one, I think,

00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:38.199
antique shop that actually just sells antiques.

00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.940
And then the rest right now are kind of turning

00:52:41.940 --> 00:52:45.280
into people are renting a space, throwing a bunch

00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.119
of shit in it, and that's it. Part of that's

00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:51.079
because they built the stream that replaced the

00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:56.599
old hotel. Which, whatever. They built a business

00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:58.599
center. People rent out booths in the business

00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.860
center. Whatever. But I'll tell you that... If

00:53:01.860 --> 00:53:03.699
they could have just rebuilt the old hotel like

00:53:03.699 --> 00:53:05.139
they originally wanted to, it would have made

00:53:05.139 --> 00:53:07.360
our downtown look so much better. Look, yes,

00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:14.179
for sure. I will say that it is a lot of fun

00:53:14.179 --> 00:53:18.300
walking through Nuevo, being as condensed as

00:53:18.300 --> 00:53:22.940
it is. You don't have to walk two miles to each

00:53:22.940 --> 00:53:26.820
thing. That's how most old towns are, too. I

00:53:26.820 --> 00:53:29.280
know, but I'm saying that it is nice, and I do

00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.929
appreciate in Nuevo that... Everything's pretty

00:53:31.929 --> 00:53:34.329
smooshed together. All your shops are right there.

00:53:34.610 --> 00:53:41.090
Yeah. You have, it's like, what, bar, a sports

00:53:41.090 --> 00:53:46.670
shop, like, bar. Well, there's two bars downtown.

00:53:46.969 --> 00:53:49.670
Technically, it's serving alcohol. There's three

00:53:49.670 --> 00:53:53.489
on the right side. There's more than just three.

00:53:53.510 --> 00:53:55.530
All of them serve alcohol. I was going to say.

00:53:55.630 --> 00:53:58.349
And then there's definitely one or two on the

00:53:58.349 --> 00:54:04.219
left. So, within a mile, you could do a fucking

00:54:04.219 --> 00:54:09.440
bar crawl. And, because you have Sportsman's,

00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:14.260
you have Noego Beer Company, or Noego Brewing

00:54:14.260 --> 00:54:19.239
Company, you have, what's the other bar? Not

00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:23.320
Sportsman's. I don't remember. There's one other

00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:26.599
bar there. The coffee shop serves alcohol, too.

00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.239
Yeah, and then there's a new, I think it's called

00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.239
The Stack. No, that's a sandwich shop, I think.

00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.420
Yeah, that's in Vaughn's old barber shop. They

00:54:38.420 --> 00:54:40.659
added The Stack. Not The Stack. The Stack is

00:54:40.659 --> 00:54:44.380
good, but it's all the way in the end, right

00:54:44.380 --> 00:54:45.940
before you get to the museum, there's another

00:54:45.940 --> 00:54:50.420
little shop that sells alcohol and food and stuff.

00:54:51.539 --> 00:54:56.550
Crazy. Yeah, it's just... tangent real quick

00:54:56.550 --> 00:55:01.489
but alcohol is way too prominent hot hot take

00:55:01.489 --> 00:55:07.090
but i feel like hot take alcohol is way or is

00:55:07.090 --> 00:55:11.469
not prominent enough i yeah i mean i as a non

00:55:11.469 --> 00:55:15.170
-drinker really um sienna and i've actually started

00:55:15.170 --> 00:55:18.849
drinking more often lately but actually having

00:55:18.849 --> 00:55:23.739
like one to two a week instead of one to two

00:55:23.739 --> 00:55:27.320
every six months. Yeah, you see, and I have like

00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:31.059
three or four a week, and I'll still tell you

00:55:31.059 --> 00:55:33.099
that we could use more alcohol. Yeah, I think

00:55:33.099 --> 00:55:36.719
it's too prominent. The options are so limited

00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.179
now. Well, so the reason why we have more is

00:55:40.179 --> 00:55:43.019
because one night we were just feeling kooky

00:55:43.019 --> 00:55:46.000
crazy, decided to play some board games, got

00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:50.199
a couple of beat boxes or whatever, alcohol in

00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.650
the cartons. and drank some of that then sienna

00:55:53.650 --> 00:55:56.309
saw some limited edition fall drinks so we got

00:55:56.309 --> 00:56:01.829
that and then we found some angry orchard um

00:56:01.829 --> 00:56:05.670
halloween edition so we then we bought that i

00:56:05.670 --> 00:56:07.730
should just bring them all to your house so you

00:56:07.730 --> 00:56:10.630
could drink them dispose of them dude my beer

00:56:10.630 --> 00:56:13.389
my fridge has so much beer in it that no one

00:56:13.389 --> 00:56:16.869
drinks like okay obviously i drink beer right

00:56:16.869 --> 00:56:20.610
i have seven brands that i drink on the regular

00:56:21.369 --> 00:56:24.030
But people bring over all this other crap, and

00:56:24.030 --> 00:56:26.510
then my fridge just fills up with beer that I

00:56:26.510 --> 00:56:29.190
won't touch. Yeah, he just looks like an alcoholic,

00:56:29.230 --> 00:56:32.369
and he's just afraid to say it, that he is one.

00:56:32.489 --> 00:56:37.070
I do, but I don't drink this crap. But no, the

00:56:37.070 --> 00:56:39.369
Angry Orchard stuff's actually not bad at all.

00:56:39.570 --> 00:56:43.630
It's actually pretty good. It's just it's not

00:56:43.630 --> 00:56:47.690
my favorite. Honestly, I like the Beatbox more

00:56:47.690 --> 00:56:50.760
than I like the Angry Orchard stuff. sienna hates

00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.780
the beat boxes but i thought they were pretty

00:56:53.780 --> 00:56:56.599
good and then and then my liquor cabinet dude

00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:59.239
i had to start a new liquor cabinet because i

00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.860
have so much liquor i've never bought liquor

00:57:01.860 --> 00:57:05.460
in my life okay i bought vodka but that doesn't

00:57:05.460 --> 00:57:08.400
count you start mixing it together make like

00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:12.280
a get like a small barrel and start they they

00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.360
do that like they'll mix all the liquors together

00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:18.400
jungle juice And then you add some Kool -Aid.

00:57:18.500 --> 00:57:20.599
No, not that. It's like they actually have a

00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:25.519
cask where they mix every liquor in it, and then

00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.340
all whiskeys and bourbons. They'll put it all

00:57:29.340 --> 00:57:31.559
together in the same cask, and it's like a mystery

00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:37.539
cask or whatever. It's crazy. Dude, I can't even.

00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.940
Alcohol is too prominent, I'm telling you. No,

00:57:41.019 --> 00:57:44.280
it's not prominent enough. We should have...

00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:47.139
The thing is, the alcohol sales are going down

00:57:47.139 --> 00:57:52.119
at a pretty dramatic route. Good. And it's just

00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.699
sad, because how are people supposed... That's...

00:57:54.699 --> 00:57:57.619
No, this explains so much. This explains all

00:57:57.619 --> 00:58:00.300
the depression in the world, all the mental illness.

00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:03.019
People aren't numbing their feelings with alcohol

00:58:03.019 --> 00:58:06.039
anymore, and it really shows. That's why there's

00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:08.199
school shootings. No, it's because they're talking

00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:12.000
about their feelings that it shows. I'm just

00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.039
kidding. I'm not going to joke about school shootings.

00:58:16.659 --> 00:58:20.460
Hey, I think it's because we're sissifying the

00:58:20.460 --> 00:58:25.780
world is why there's more school shootings. We're

00:58:25.780 --> 00:58:27.219
not talking about school shootings, but I just

00:58:27.219 --> 00:58:28.599
figured out a way in. We're not talking about

00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:31.300
school shootings. That is way off topic for us.

00:58:31.579 --> 00:58:35.440
Alcohol goes on trails. This is still on topic.

00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:41.179
I don't know, man. Even, okay, so let's bring

00:58:41.179 --> 00:58:44.880
this back to trails. Alcohol camping and on trails,

00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:50.019
too prominent. It's too prominent. Camping, I

00:58:50.019 --> 00:58:52.420
don't have an issue with. On trails, too prominent,

00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:55.139
100%. Yeah. You should not be drinking and driving,

00:58:55.260 --> 00:58:57.679
period. Yeah. I mean, you want to drink and drive

00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.860
on your property, on your property, do as you

00:59:00.860 --> 00:59:02.440
wish. It's your property. You can do what you

00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:06.599
want. But if I'm driving down a trail for scenery

00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:11.980
and I start seeing fucking. keystone lights littering

00:59:11.980 --> 00:59:15.099
the side of it dude and it's always keystones

00:59:15.099 --> 00:59:19.000
it's not natty it's not it's no it's keystone

00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:22.260
almost every fucking time drink of choice because

00:59:22.260 --> 00:59:25.360
it's cheap and disgusting and they're too drunk

00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:29.139
to know what good beer tastes like anyway now

00:59:29.139 --> 00:59:33.460
all that being said i will say uh i'm very impressed

00:59:33.460 --> 00:59:37.199
with the cleanliness of our trails today because

00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.519
when i was a kid Like, we would use trash piles

00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:44.000
as markers for where we have to turn. Yeah, I

00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:49.119
mean, in an overall and general respect, our

00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:55.780
trail and environmental conscious has been way,

00:59:55.900 --> 01:00:01.659
way better in the last 20 to 50 years. Way better.

01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:07.360
And I had this conversation back when I had the

01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:11.039
guys from Great Lakes Four Wheel Drive Association

01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:16.739
on. Yeah, I think that's. Like, yeah, yeah, whatever.

01:00:16.900 --> 01:00:18.559
I don't even know if they're still around. I

01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:20.239
don't know what's going on. The whole world is

01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:25.960
all topsy -turvy. Yeah. But, yeah, so I had this

01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:27.260
conversation with them. I'm like, you know, I've

01:00:27.260 --> 01:00:28.880
been impressed with how clean the trails are.

01:00:28.940 --> 01:00:30.179
And they're like, what are you talking about?

01:00:30.219 --> 01:00:33.380
I'm like. Do you not remember 10, 15 years ago?

01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:36.820
Oh, yeah. Like, we've come so far in keeping

01:00:36.820 --> 01:00:39.659
these trails clean, dude. Yeah, it's the general

01:00:39.659 --> 01:00:44.300
pressure and the... So you'll have, like, old

01:00:44.300 --> 01:00:46.579
heads that'll still do whatever they want to

01:00:46.579 --> 01:00:49.840
do. Yeah. But we're getting into a new generation

01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:54.719
of more environmentally friendly and conscious

01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:59.920
people that are at the age of traveling, which...

01:01:00.429 --> 01:01:03.730
It really isn't as bad as it used to be. It really

01:01:03.730 --> 01:01:06.929
isn't. And there's still some really bad places.

01:01:07.050 --> 01:01:10.769
There's still people, like locals, that dump

01:01:10.769 --> 01:01:15.670
their shit everywhere. But... It's mostly locals.

01:01:15.670 --> 01:01:18.389
It mostly is. Like, seriously. And it's so...

01:01:18.389 --> 01:01:20.250
You know, we use the example that I have from

01:01:20.250 --> 01:01:23.449
a couple months ago of the bonfire we had out

01:01:23.449 --> 01:01:27.130
on the trail on the power lines here. Yeah. That

01:01:27.130 --> 01:01:31.320
wasn't a tourist. Mm -mm. It's always the locals.

01:01:31.699 --> 01:01:36.559
Now, tourists, if you start seeing, like, shit

01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:41.380
paper everywhere, tourists, if you start seeing,

01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:46.699
I can't even say if you start seeing camp chairs

01:01:46.699 --> 01:01:49.440
and beer bottles in the fire, because sometimes

01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.340
they're still the fucking locals. Yeah. They

01:01:53.340 --> 01:01:56.139
know camp spots, too, and they use those as party

01:01:56.139 --> 01:02:00.349
spots. I think back to when we, uh, we used to

01:02:00.349 --> 01:02:02.570
go up to, or, well, we still go up to Everett,

01:02:02.630 --> 01:02:04.610
but I think back to going up to Everett, there

01:02:04.610 --> 01:02:07.010
was always that spot where there were like 15

01:02:07.010 --> 01:02:10.010
mattresses. Yeah. And we joke that it was Yambers

01:02:10.010 --> 01:02:14.849
family, uh, hotel. Right. Well, like, so where

01:02:14.849 --> 01:02:19.409
we had our first, I believe it was first, first

01:02:19.409 --> 01:02:24.769
and last area that we had our, um, rigs and cafe.

01:02:25.989 --> 01:02:28.869
cords and calf and it was our second spot is

01:02:28.869 --> 01:02:31.949
it i i wasn't there for the first but um right

01:02:31.949 --> 01:02:35.489
but yeah when we first got there how nasty was

01:02:35.489 --> 01:02:39.670
that it's disgusting well we should get back

01:02:39.670 --> 01:02:42.170
to doing cords and calf but i've been way too

01:02:42.170 --> 01:02:45.570
busy to even think about it yeah maybe next year

01:02:45.570 --> 01:02:49.610
but this year has been way too busy and but yeah

01:02:49.610 --> 01:02:51.989
i mean it was so disgusting and that was all

01:02:51.989 --> 01:02:56.800
local shit 100 % local. There was a broken window.

01:02:57.380 --> 01:03:01.480
Remember we had all those glass shards. It was

01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:04.300
disgusting. Diapers and shit. Dirty diapers.

01:03:04.619 --> 01:03:08.780
So many diapers. And they were in the fire. They

01:03:08.780 --> 01:03:11.699
were in the fire half burnt. Who throws diapers

01:03:11.699 --> 01:03:15.099
in the fire? That's probably the most touristy

01:03:15.099 --> 01:03:18.880
thing that I've seen. The last camp spot that

01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:24.329
I went to, there was a shit ton of wire. And

01:03:24.329 --> 01:03:26.969
there was a shit ton of like melted glass bottles

01:03:26.969 --> 01:03:29.469
and stuff like that. And I was like, yep, this

01:03:29.469 --> 01:03:32.030
is not a tourist. Because you got to look at

01:03:32.030 --> 01:03:36.170
this stuff from the fact that like, is a tourist,

01:03:36.230 --> 01:03:39.829
is a random camper going to have like 400 yards

01:03:39.829 --> 01:03:44.710
of wire? No. No, but the person that has to,

01:03:44.730 --> 01:03:48.329
that knows this trail well, and like people like

01:03:48.329 --> 01:03:50.409
us that are locals that know the trail because

01:03:50.409 --> 01:03:53.519
we grew up in the area. That only takes, you

01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:55.500
know, five to ten minutes to go and find this

01:03:55.500 --> 01:03:58.260
camp area. Yeah, those are the ones that get

01:03:58.260 --> 01:04:02.219
trashed the most often. Yep. The ones that are

01:04:02.219 --> 01:04:04.800
only five to ten minutes off the main road. They

01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:06.880
might be hard to get to, but trust me, locals

01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:09.599
don't give a shit about being harder to get to.

01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:13.199
They just drive their shit boxes 80 mile an hour,

01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:15.599
dig the ruts, and then leave all the trash and

01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:19.099
leave. Now it's side -by -sides, dude. Oh, my

01:04:19.099 --> 01:04:22.719
God. And side -by -sides are the worst. And it's

01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:27.280
not, look, it's not, I'm not generalizing. It's

01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:29.860
just pattern recognition at this point. Yeah.

01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:33.659
It's like we've seen the pattern. We've had the

01:04:33.659 --> 01:04:37.659
experiences. We've been out enough. It is. Well,

01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:42.260
and the reason being, right, is you can go buy

01:04:42.260 --> 01:04:46.059
a side -by -side right now for $25 ,000 that

01:04:46.059 --> 01:04:49.699
will do everything plus what a $25 ,000 car will

01:04:49.699 --> 01:04:53.389
do. Oh, sure. um and i'm not saying every because

01:04:53.389 --> 01:04:55.809
you and better for the right because you you

01:04:55.809 --> 01:04:58.769
can build a rig or you can buy a rig for 25 grand

01:04:58.769 --> 01:05:01.510
that someone else built but they're going to

01:05:01.510 --> 01:05:03.809
go buy a brand new side by side because then

01:05:03.809 --> 01:05:06.090
when they break it on the trail it's under warranty

01:05:06.090 --> 01:05:10.090
or they have some type of repair system worked

01:05:10.090 --> 01:05:15.280
out you know and in a lot of ways side -by -sides

01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:18.000
have destroyed the off -road community because

01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.619
it has taken a lot of really cool builds out

01:05:20.619 --> 01:05:22.599
of the picture like things that just won't happen

01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:25.940
now yeah because why build it if i can just go

01:05:25.940 --> 01:05:28.219
buy a side -by -side that does what i want that's

01:05:28.219 --> 01:05:30.760
that is true i mean side -by -sides in that respect

01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:34.940
have also ruined the off -world off -road community

01:05:34.940 --> 01:05:39.159
in that sense because you don't need a fucking

01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:44.130
ranger on long travel or anything like that to

01:05:44.130 --> 01:05:47.630
get around you don't have to be you know creative

01:05:47.630 --> 01:05:52.409
anymore you can just go buy some package off

01:05:52.409 --> 01:05:55.150
of a dealership and then get to these same places

01:05:55.150 --> 01:06:00.730
be routier be faster than a ranger yep be more

01:06:00.730 --> 01:06:03.570
dangerous and still drink and drive like you're

01:06:03.570 --> 01:06:08.769
in a ranger so i mean so you're not doing anything

01:06:08.769 --> 01:06:12.800
better And it's a waste of money, in my opinion,

01:06:12.860 --> 01:06:15.940
to buy a side -by -side ever, unless you're using

01:06:15.940 --> 01:06:19.539
it like a mule for your property. And even then,

01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:24.619
buying a $2 ,500 Ranger as a mule for your property

01:06:24.619 --> 01:06:29.119
is still better. Having gone from like a $2 ,500

01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:34.219
Ranger to my dad's Polaris Ranger, I will say

01:06:34.219 --> 01:06:37.460
the side -by -side is 100 % better. It was worth

01:06:37.460 --> 01:06:40.809
the nine grand he spent on it. I mean, being

01:06:40.809 --> 01:06:45.510
fully enclosed, insulated with heat and AC. I'm

01:06:45.510 --> 01:06:48.909
talking about for the price point, $2 ,500 and

01:06:48.909 --> 01:06:53.309
the parts availability. The Polaris could get

01:06:53.309 --> 01:06:55.789
down into the swamp and the Ranger couldn't.

01:06:55.989 --> 01:06:59.329
Sure. But I mean, just like your typical. Yeah.

01:06:59.570 --> 01:07:02.030
Yeah. If we got to fix the backside of the horse

01:07:02.030 --> 01:07:04.750
pasture, the Ranger is way better than what a

01:07:04.750 --> 01:07:06.869
Ford Ranger would have been. Right. Yeah. You

01:07:06.869 --> 01:07:09.250
got to be specific now. Two different Rangers.

01:07:09.369 --> 01:07:16.090
And we put gas in the Polaris like once a year,

01:07:16.130 --> 01:07:20.130
maybe. Right. And we've done two oil changes

01:07:20.130 --> 01:07:25.730
on it in the six years he's had it. I think if

01:07:25.730 --> 01:07:28.389
you used a Ranger, a Ford Ranger like that, too,

01:07:28.409 --> 01:07:32.250
it'd be pretty similar. Well, we did use one

01:07:32.250 --> 01:07:35.369
for that. I don't know. The Polaris is just that

01:07:35.369 --> 01:07:37.449
much better than what a Ford Ranger was. Yeah.

01:07:37.449 --> 01:07:41.869
I mean, for me, we had a Gator, and then we had

01:07:41.869 --> 01:07:50.389
a F -250 diesel. And the Gator was cool if you

01:07:50.389 --> 01:07:52.309
were just running into the horse barn to grab

01:07:52.309 --> 01:07:55.750
some bales of hay, run out. It's small, compact.

01:07:56.710 --> 01:07:59.949
But if you were running around the acreage or...

01:08:00.590 --> 01:08:04.230
You were hauling anything better? That F -250

01:08:04.230 --> 01:08:09.690
was what I used for everything. My grandpa had

01:08:09.690 --> 01:08:14.030
Gators up at the ranch, and I fucking hated those

01:08:14.030 --> 01:08:15.429
things. Oh, I thought they were pretty nice.

01:08:16.449 --> 01:08:19.609
No, for that reason. They were only good for

01:08:19.609 --> 01:08:23.510
a job going short distances, doing little stuff.

01:08:23.949 --> 01:08:28.989
Then he got one of the new Gators, which is...

01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:33.739
You know, it has all four wheels, and this one's

01:08:33.739 --> 01:08:35.840
a four -door. It's basically a side -by -side,

01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:38.840
right? And it's not belt -driven. It's chain

01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:42.500
-driven. The old ones were belt -driven. That

01:08:42.500 --> 01:08:45.079
thing's phenomenal. That thing completely replaces

01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.060
old GMC pickup. Like, it does everything the

01:08:48.060 --> 01:08:51.260
GMC pickup did plus some, you know? I guess my

01:08:51.260 --> 01:08:53.359
biggest thing is the price point. If I was to

01:08:53.359 --> 01:09:00.699
compare spending $2 ,500... on a 4x4 Ranger and

01:09:00.699 --> 01:09:07.140
then $25 ,000 on a 4x4 Polaris. To be fair, you'd

01:09:07.140 --> 01:09:09.800
only be spending like $9 ,000 to $12 ,000 on

01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:13.479
the Polaris. I wouldn't buy a $25 ,000 one for

01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:14.779
that purpose. Right, but that's what you were

01:09:14.779 --> 01:09:16.380
mentioning earlier, so that's what I was kind

01:09:16.380 --> 01:09:18.399
of going off on. That was for off -roading, though.

01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:22.500
Well, yeah, I just mean in general. An off -road

01:09:22.500 --> 01:09:24.520
side -by -side is different from a utility side

01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:28.420
-by -side. But I think that still, for me, that

01:09:28.420 --> 01:09:32.479
still is the same thing. And I mean it by like

01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:36.670
this. If I had to choose from a $2 ,500 Ford

01:09:36.670 --> 01:09:42.109
Ranger and a $25 ,000 side -by -side, even for

01:09:42.109 --> 01:09:44.970
the trails, even knowing the ride quality is

01:09:44.970 --> 01:09:48.090
worse, even knowing that you can't go as fast,

01:09:48.329 --> 01:09:51.010
I'd still pick the Ranger for parts availability,

01:09:51.229 --> 01:09:56.470
for the built -in insulation, heating, cooling

01:09:56.470 --> 01:10:00.939
that comes with this. for trails i would definitely

01:10:00.939 --> 01:10:04.060
pick a ranger but i don't know dude it when you

01:10:04.060 --> 01:10:07.199
get those newer nicer side by sides for like

01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:10.159
farms it's so much better i could see like yeah

01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.100
i mean that's that is nice just being able to

01:10:12.100 --> 01:10:14.960
hop into it jump in and go but i feel like you

01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:19.689
can do that with most shitbox cars too like When

01:10:19.689 --> 01:10:21.689
I was looking at, uh, yeah, but you're going

01:10:21.689 --> 01:10:23.710
to have more, you're going to be able to do more

01:10:23.710 --> 01:10:26.630
with the side by side just because of size and

01:10:26.630 --> 01:10:29.789
it can have actual locking four wheel drive where

01:10:29.789 --> 01:10:33.250
it locks on all four corners. Like it's kind

01:10:33.250 --> 01:10:37.149
of a hard sell. I get it. Um, I was looking at

01:10:37.149 --> 01:10:40.289
buying one. Uh, when I bought the Ford, I probably

01:10:40.289 --> 01:10:42.109
should have just bought a side. I remember you

01:10:42.109 --> 01:10:43.649
were saying that you were like, I'm going to

01:10:43.649 --> 01:10:46.109
drive to town in this thing. And I'm like, yeah,

01:10:46.250 --> 01:10:49.569
cause you can get. For, like, $20 ,000, you can

01:10:49.569 --> 01:10:52.529
get pretty decent side -by -sides with full cabs,

01:10:52.529 --> 01:10:55.909
AC, and heat. Everything you could want. And

01:10:55.909 --> 01:10:57.829
then you don't have to register and insure it.

01:10:58.670 --> 01:11:01.350
Yeah, for me, I think I would rather... And this

01:11:01.350 --> 01:11:03.250
is just for the stuff that I do. I'd still rather

01:11:03.250 --> 01:11:06.630
have a truck. Because, like, then you can't...

01:11:06.630 --> 01:11:08.630
I mean, obviously, I bought a truck instead of

01:11:08.630 --> 01:11:10.949
a side -by -side. But then you can't tow. Then

01:11:10.949 --> 01:11:14.449
you can't do long -haul drives. And, you know,

01:11:14.449 --> 01:11:18.239
now... Now we're talking again about possibly

01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.819
getting another vehicle because Kayla needs something

01:11:21.819 --> 01:11:24.260
to drive and the 4Runner just isn't it this year.

01:11:24.619 --> 01:11:27.939
And she's scared of my truck. Get her an 05 Grand

01:11:27.939 --> 01:11:32.600
Prix with a 3800. I want to get her either an

01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:36.279
electric truck like a Slate or a side -by -side.

01:11:36.619 --> 01:11:39.899
Reason being, there's no maintenance on the Slate.

01:11:39.939 --> 01:11:41.939
The side -by -side doesn't need registration.

01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.649
You can drive anywhere. New Eggo County with

01:11:45.649 --> 01:11:49.470
a side -by -side. I don't know, man. She tried

01:11:49.470 --> 01:11:52.130
to drive your truck the one day and couldn't

01:11:52.130 --> 01:11:55.189
figure out why I wasn't driving. Because she

01:11:55.189 --> 01:11:57.369
didn't have it started, I know. That's why I

01:11:57.369 --> 01:12:01.050
want to get her something else. I don't know

01:12:01.050 --> 01:12:03.250
that I would buy her a new slate. Or anything

01:12:03.250 --> 01:12:06.109
new, really. No offense to you, your wife, or

01:12:06.109 --> 01:12:08.329
anything, but if I was to buy her something,

01:12:08.510 --> 01:12:11.869
it would be old, it would be trusty, and it would

01:12:11.869 --> 01:12:15.310
be rusty. I don't want the maintenance on something

01:12:15.310 --> 01:12:18.149
rusty and trusty, though. Like, literally, we're

01:12:18.149 --> 01:12:21.670
at a point when we pay the truck off in the next

01:12:21.670 --> 01:12:26.390
three years. I do plan on buying a slate. Three

01:12:26.390 --> 01:12:31.329
years. I mean, how long have you been paying

01:12:31.329 --> 01:12:36.489
on your truck? Three years. Yeah, exactly. That's

01:12:36.489 --> 01:12:39.210
what I'm saying, is I know how shitty it is.

01:12:40.189 --> 01:12:42.739
Like, when I'm... Of course, my payments are

01:12:42.739 --> 01:12:44.560
lower than yours, too. A lot lower. So I pay,

01:12:44.659 --> 01:12:50.279
like, $360. Yeah. Mine are, like, $550. And that's

01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:53.039
because I had junk -ass credit and no history.

01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:59.979
I had no history and, like, a $580. But it was

01:12:59.979 --> 01:13:01.699
USAA, so they finance with lower rates. Oh, that

01:13:01.699 --> 01:13:04.600
would be why, then. Because that was, like, mine

01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:07.819
was better than yours. Like, I had $600 -something

01:13:07.819 --> 01:13:11.199
and no history. And my wife co -signed on it,

01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:15.039
and she had good credit. And I still got $550.

01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:20.300
USA is the GOAT. Fuck it. But yeah, so that's

01:13:20.300 --> 01:13:21.779
the plan, though. When the truck's paid off,

01:13:21.939 --> 01:13:23.800
I'm going to buy her, like, a slate. Because

01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:27.020
then, I really don't care what happens. Like,

01:13:27.060 --> 01:13:29.560
let's say she bumps into something. What, I unbolt

01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:32.319
some plastic panels and bolt a new one on? Like,

01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:34.600
oh no. Your wife would be the one to damage the

01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:39.470
battery pack. right and then like the most expensive

01:13:39.470 --> 01:13:44.989
part on it it would be other than that what do

01:13:44.989 --> 01:13:47.050
i really have to pay to maintain this thing what

01:13:47.050 --> 01:13:51.949
brakes tires it's cheaper than buying gas even

01:13:51.949 --> 01:13:56.390
so in every way does it cool using oil the electric

01:13:56.390 --> 01:13:58.810
the the heat from the battery and everything

01:13:58.810 --> 01:14:03.710
coolant right so this is coolant okay i didn't

01:14:03.710 --> 01:14:08.500
know if that I didn't have oil. I mean, but the

01:14:08.500 --> 01:14:10.520
diffs and stuff have oil and everything. So it's

01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:12.699
like, or no, they're not diffs. It's electric.

01:14:12.939 --> 01:14:17.439
Yeah. Yeah. It's so weird. Yeah. Literally the

01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.159
only maintenance to do on a slate is like windshield

01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:24.039
wipers, tires, and brakes. God, what's the lifespan

01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:27.899
of like one of those, let's say, axle housings

01:14:27.899 --> 01:14:30.840
for like, not axle housings, but like engines.

01:14:31.550 --> 01:14:33.829
The brushless motors or whatever the fuck it

01:14:33.829 --> 01:14:36.810
is. Pretty much forever. There's hardly any wear

01:14:36.810 --> 01:14:39.789
on them. As long as you're not destroying them,

01:14:39.850 --> 01:14:44.430
they'll go for a long, long time. The downside

01:14:44.430 --> 01:14:48.090
to electric, obviously, is battery. Because batteries

01:14:48.090 --> 01:14:52.149
degrade in five to ten years. But, you know,

01:14:52.170 --> 01:14:57.090
I could buy a $25 ,000 truck and it's going to

01:14:57.090 --> 01:14:59.710
rot out and break in five to ten years. Or...

01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.279
I buy a $25 ,000 slate, and the battery goes

01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.739
bad in five to ten years, but I spent no money

01:15:05.739 --> 01:15:12.140
maintaining it, you know? And it's not like this

01:15:12.140 --> 01:15:14.359
is the vehicle we're going to be taking from

01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:16.939
here to, like, California. This is the vehicle

01:15:16.939 --> 01:15:20.119
that's going to do, like, a whopping 30 miles

01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:23.199
a day. See, that's why I would get her, like,

01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:27.880
something like a 08 Buick LaSabra with no rust.

01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:30.560
No, because... What's going to happen with that,

01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:34.779
having had, oh, you say an 08? I'm just giving

01:15:34.779 --> 01:15:39.100
an example, random. Just making it older. Having

01:15:39.100 --> 01:15:42.260
had those old Buick cars, though, like, they

01:15:42.260 --> 01:15:45.220
do need maintenance. They have rust. They do

01:15:45.220 --> 01:15:48.340
have rust problems. So I'm going to spend more

01:15:48.340 --> 01:15:50.779
money keeping one of those on the road than I

01:15:50.779 --> 01:15:53.000
would if I just bought an electric truck. Or...

01:15:53.340 --> 01:15:55.560
a side -by -side, and then I don't even have

01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:57.859
to worry about registration and insurance, then

01:15:57.859 --> 01:16:01.220
I'm really not spending any money. Yeah, I don't

01:16:01.220 --> 01:16:06.399
know. You have a unique situation for sure. Like,

01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:09.739
obviously, I'm going to keep my Ford and my 4Runner,

01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:11.659
and I'm going to keep those registered and insured.

01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:15.680
But if I'm adding a third vehicle, just... Yeah,

01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:19.789
and my olds. But if I'm keeping another vehicle

01:16:19.789 --> 01:16:23.810
just for driving around Grant, Nuevo, maybe Fremont,

01:16:23.890 --> 01:16:26.930
I don't necessarily want to have to pay for it

01:16:26.930 --> 01:16:30.069
all the time. I don't want to spend a lot of

01:16:30.069 --> 01:16:33.449
money maintaining my shit, dude. Yeah, I know

01:16:33.449 --> 01:16:37.069
when I get the truck paid off, I want to get

01:16:37.069 --> 01:16:41.729
Sienna into something better. But me and her

01:16:41.729 --> 01:16:46.409
have been really fond of older Hondas and...

01:16:48.330 --> 01:16:53.149
older Toyotas. See, and those are my favorite,

01:16:53.229 --> 01:16:55.369
but for something I don't have to pay money for,

01:16:55.489 --> 01:16:57.609
100 % going to do something cheap. Well, fuck,

01:16:57.670 --> 01:17:00.609
we're like, what do we want a car payment for?

01:17:00.750 --> 01:17:04.090
Do we want a car payment for something new that

01:17:04.090 --> 01:17:07.250
we can't really work on, or something old that

01:17:07.250 --> 01:17:10.729
we might have to work on more, but we can work

01:17:10.729 --> 01:17:14.510
on it? Well, in that case, get something you

01:17:14.510 --> 01:17:19.789
can work on, like a Slate or an REO. I want a

01:17:19.789 --> 01:17:29.010
Rio Diamond. A Rio Diamond? Yeah, the old 1940s

01:17:29.010 --> 01:17:40.270
Rios. Have you seen the new REO trucks? No. Oh,

01:17:40.270 --> 01:17:44.409
bro. I'm waiting for the Edison Motors conversion

01:17:44.409 --> 01:17:48.260
kits to come out. So that I can convert like

01:17:48.260 --> 01:17:55.100
a 1985 square body. And that's what I want. A

01:17:55.100 --> 01:17:59.380
diesel electric hybrid. That is the future. I

01:17:59.380 --> 01:18:02.119
genuinely think diesel electric is the future.

01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:05.439
I think anybody who thinks full EV is the future

01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:08.819
lives in the city and only travels the city.

01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:13.039
Oh, yeah. It's a slate with Rio badging. Got

01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:17.880
it. but it's got a gas. Can you hear me? Yeah,

01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:20.399
you can hear me. It's got, instead of being an

01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:25.420
electric, it's gas with a manual four wheel drive

01:18:25.420 --> 01:18:31.220
with front and rear lockers. Still 21 seems like

01:18:31.220 --> 01:18:34.619
a lot. It's made of metal compared to being made

01:18:34.619 --> 01:18:36.619
of plastic. I think I'd rather it be made of

01:18:36.619 --> 01:18:41.260
plastic. If that makes sense. It's like being

01:18:41.260 --> 01:18:43.359
up here. I'd almost rather it be made of plastic.

01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:47.260
Yeah, I don't know, man. The slate having removable

01:18:47.260 --> 01:18:52.319
body panels is perfect for Michigan rust. I think

01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:54.859
the Rio's going to be body on frame, too, whereas

01:18:54.859 --> 01:19:00.119
the slate is very much so unibody. Yeah. I don't

01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:04.159
know. For Michigan and Michigan rust, I've given

01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:06.859
up on the battle of trying to buy something new.

01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:10.350
I don't want to... I don't want to buy something

01:19:10.350 --> 01:19:16.609
new and in 10 years it's just garbage. So buy

01:19:16.609 --> 01:19:21.489
a Ford. Like I said. They don't have that problem.

01:19:21.989 --> 01:19:26.369
Yeah, they do. No, they're aluminum. They don't

01:19:26.369 --> 01:19:31.350
rust. Those are like rusty everywhere else that

01:19:31.350 --> 01:19:35.909
the aluminum isn't. And dead rust. No. No, that's

01:19:35.909 --> 01:19:38.310
why you're not seeing those Fords fold in half

01:19:38.310 --> 01:19:41.350
like you are 2020 Chevys or 2020 Dodges. Yeah.

01:19:41.750 --> 01:19:45.930
You know, go back to 2017 was the start of the

01:19:45.930 --> 01:19:48.890
aluminum Fords. They're not having all the problems

01:19:48.890 --> 01:19:50.970
that every other manufacturer is having with

01:19:50.970 --> 01:19:53.810
rust. If you see a 2017 Chevy on the road today,

01:19:53.970 --> 01:19:57.310
it's probably rotted out, and the frame is rotted

01:19:57.310 --> 01:20:02.939
out. I think Fords are like... the with the aluminum

01:20:02.939 --> 01:20:06.000
bodies are no different from like the pretty

01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:09.220
much plastic paneled vehicles that like that

01:20:09.220 --> 01:20:11.600
look really good on the outside the bodies are

01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:14.199
good but like mechanically they're still rusting

01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:18.539
just as bad they're way different because the

01:20:18.539 --> 01:20:21.659
plastic bottle the plastic bodied vehicle still

01:20:21.659 --> 01:20:24.760
had steel structure so the structure of the vehicle

01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:27.659
would rot out whereas fords don't do that it's

01:20:27.659 --> 01:20:30.380
just because they're made of aluminum The only

01:20:30.380 --> 01:20:32.460
thing you're looking at is chassis and driveline,

01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:35.220
and we're not seeing them rot out. We've never

01:20:35.220 --> 01:20:38.640
seen Fords rot out. Ford frames have always been

01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:40.899
known to be super strong. It's always been bodies.

01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:47.539
Huh. That's why you'll still see a rotted -out

01:20:47.539 --> 01:20:51.060
OBS pulling 40 ,000 pounds. Well, dude, I love

01:20:51.060 --> 01:20:54.640
OBSs. That's not really the issue. It's just...

01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:57.390
Whereas... You don't see an OBS Chevy pulling

01:20:57.390 --> 01:21:00.590
40 ,000 pounds because it's rotted out. A lot

01:21:00.590 --> 01:21:04.130
of them are, for sure. You don't see... I mean,

01:21:04.210 --> 01:21:07.970
that's... Yeah, you don't. Frames on Chevys and

01:21:07.970 --> 01:21:10.689
Dodges have always been known to rot. Ford has

01:21:10.689 --> 01:21:14.590
never had that problem. It's always been bodies.

01:21:14.810 --> 01:21:17.390
Right. But even then, the Ford body rusted less

01:21:17.390 --> 01:21:20.390
than the Chevy or Dodge counterpart. And now

01:21:20.390 --> 01:21:22.289
Ford got rid of all of it by going aluminum.

01:21:23.109 --> 01:21:26.810
Like... Going aluminum was one of the single

01:21:26.810 --> 01:21:29.409
best decisions any auto manufacturer has ever

01:21:29.409 --> 01:21:32.189
made because it has made it where it's a vehicle

01:21:32.189 --> 01:21:34.710
you can buy, and we're seeing the Fords hold

01:21:34.710 --> 01:21:36.670
their value, whereas everything else is going

01:21:36.670 --> 01:21:38.630
down. Well, it's also lighter, too, which is

01:21:38.630 --> 01:21:41.890
nice. Which gives you a higher payload. Right.

01:21:43.109 --> 01:21:45.409
Sure, okay, you get in an accident, it costs

01:21:45.409 --> 01:21:49.590
more to fix. There is downsides, right? But overall,

01:21:49.890 --> 01:21:53.689
it's a pretty phenomenal decision. Yeah. No,

01:21:53.750 --> 01:21:57.569
I don't think we're looking for like a pickup

01:21:57.569 --> 01:22:02.569
or anything. We're just looking at cheap imports

01:22:02.569 --> 01:22:12.270
because it's not just the, how would I say, repairability

01:22:12.270 --> 01:22:16.550
of it. It's kind of like the cool factor, like

01:22:16.550 --> 01:22:19.930
what we like to. So like Sienna's been really

01:22:19.930 --> 01:22:23.699
into like certain imports, like the older. like

01:22:23.699 --> 01:22:27.840
she really is digging terrenos and it's so cool

01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:31.359
because you know we used to i'm pretty sure you've

01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:35.079
watched it but uh uh what is it initial speed

01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:41.399
uh is that the drift one the drift anime with

01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:43.560
the terreno i can't remember what it's oh initial

01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:47.239
d initial d yeah there it is so we have that

01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:49.699
on your thing and i watched it and i was like

01:22:50.390 --> 01:22:51.810
I was like, you know what that is, right? And

01:22:51.810 --> 01:22:54.729
Sienna goes, yeah, I've seen a Trano. I was like,

01:22:54.829 --> 01:22:59.170
that's the initial D, like the Trano. I was like,

01:22:59.250 --> 01:23:04.270
she didn't get it. Yeah. I was like, so she's

01:23:04.270 --> 01:23:06.770
been really into those and that style, and she's

01:23:06.770 --> 01:23:12.189
been really digging the OEM look, the OEM interiors.

01:23:12.189 --> 01:23:14.920
And I'm just like, yeah, dude, let's do it. You're

01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:17.720
looking at like $40 ,000 for an AE86. Oh, yeah.

01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:20.180
We're not talking exactly a Trano. She likes

01:23:20.180 --> 01:23:22.340
them, but that's not what we're looking for.

01:23:23.579 --> 01:23:26.539
We're looking at older cars around the same years.

01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:39.909
I really want a 280Z. Yeah. yeah a 2az and an

01:23:39.909 --> 01:23:43.909
mr2 but a 280z aaron just aaron had the newer

01:23:43.909 --> 01:23:46.449
mr2 i remember us talking about this while you're

01:23:46.449 --> 01:23:49.729
talking about the older one i like the 80s i

01:23:49.729 --> 01:23:54.989
mean i bought a beautiful red 1986 mr2 with a

01:23:54.989 --> 01:23:58.350
supercharged engine out of a 93 mr2 thing was

01:23:58.350 --> 01:24:01.930
perfect in every single way and it was in a barn

01:24:01.930 --> 01:24:04.090
waiting to come up here and a week before it

01:24:04.090 --> 01:24:06.029
was coming up here the barn burnt to the ground

01:24:06.029 --> 01:24:10.779
yeah I have Sienna mentioned the other day that

01:24:10.779 --> 01:24:14.119
she wanted to get into a car with a roadie rotary.

01:24:15.100 --> 01:24:19.180
And I was just like, Oh no, I said that. I said,

01:24:19.220 --> 01:24:21.920
no, I don't think we do. And she's like, I was

01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:24.300
like, but to be fair, the only reason I say that

01:24:24.300 --> 01:24:27.520
is because I've heard there one fucking horrible

01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.840
to work on, but two, we don't, they're absolutely

01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:33.779
under, they're great to work on. I, I've heard

01:24:33.779 --> 01:24:36.560
of, they were horrible. no they're super easy

01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:39.460
when you have a the smallest engine problem it's

01:24:39.460 --> 01:24:41.340
like a cartridge you undo four bolts from the

01:24:41.340 --> 01:24:44.039
top you undo the bell housing and it just lifts

01:24:44.039 --> 01:24:46.260
out you can pick it up by two people right they

01:24:46.260 --> 01:24:49.979
split apart super easy fantastic engines to work

01:24:49.979 --> 01:24:52.479
on but you're going to be working on it every

01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:55.539
5 000 miles right well that's what i was yeah

01:24:55.539 --> 01:24:57.859
that's what i was kind of getting to is like

01:24:57.859 --> 01:25:00.819
that they're always being worked on and they

01:25:00.819 --> 01:25:03.180
always have issues and she's like well that's

01:25:03.180 --> 01:25:06.050
okay we can learn i was like Okay. She's very

01:25:06.050 --> 01:25:12.270
stubborn. If I say no, an RX -7 will probably

01:25:12.270 --> 01:25:15.750
pop up somewhere. So it's like, all right, well,

01:25:15.770 --> 01:25:20.970
yeah, let's just do that then. But we do plan,

01:25:21.250 --> 01:25:24.489
for everybody listening, we do plan to have a

01:25:24.489 --> 01:25:29.949
pole barn with probably 13 to 40 cars in it.

01:25:30.910 --> 01:25:34.010
of just random cars that we like or want. And

01:25:34.010 --> 01:25:38.550
yeah, the MR2 is cool. I just love them. Here's

01:25:38.550 --> 01:25:40.449
another hot take that's going to piss you off.

01:25:40.489 --> 01:25:46.409
Ready? Yep. The Fiero looks better. Pontiac Fieros

01:25:46.409 --> 01:25:52.189
look better. I like Fieros, too. It doesn't piss

01:25:52.189 --> 01:25:54.430
me off because I really like Fieros. Dude, with

01:25:54.430 --> 01:25:59.340
the golden wheels that they came with. Those

01:25:59.340 --> 01:26:03.220
golden sport wheels. Oh, dude. Dude, the Fieros

01:26:03.220 --> 01:26:08.859
look so much better. The Fiero GT. I don't know.

01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:10.859
I can't say they look better because to me, the

01:26:10.859 --> 01:26:14.920
MR2 is like the perfect car. But the Fieros are

01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:17.539
pretty fucking beautiful, dude. Only based on

01:26:17.539 --> 01:26:21.000
looks, I say the Pontiac Fiero is better looking.

01:26:21.859 --> 01:26:27.479
In every way. The way that an MR2 handles, the

01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:30.220
way the interior is set up is so much better

01:26:30.220 --> 01:26:33.300
than the Fiero. The engine is prettier than a

01:26:33.300 --> 01:26:35.859
Fiero. Yeah, so I agree with that. I just mean

01:26:35.859 --> 01:26:41.079
just right off of looks. Oh, 100 % styling. The

01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:43.680
Fiero GT is one of the most beautiful cars ever

01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:46.659
made. Hot take. I'll live with it. I don't care

01:26:46.659 --> 01:26:50.119
if anyone snippets this and talks shit. I love

01:26:50.119 --> 01:26:52.800
the way the Fiero GT looks. Yeah, like that Fiero

01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:55.300
with those golden Smokey and the Bandit style

01:26:55.300 --> 01:27:01.420
fucking wheels, dude. That is beautiful. And

01:27:01.420 --> 01:27:05.039
that's an older one. That's an 88. Or a newer

01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:10.460
one. I like the older ones. I like the 86 Fieros

01:27:10.460 --> 01:27:15.319
with black wheels. Oh, my God, dude. That one

01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:18.399
I just sent you. Yeah, I think they all are just...

01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:22.100
I think they're all, yeah, all better. That almost

01:27:22.100 --> 01:27:26.199
looks like a trimmed out Pontiac Sunfire. If

01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:28.260
you look at the front bumper, how it's narrowed.

01:27:28.260 --> 01:27:29.939
Yeah. And you look at the rear. Yeah, I know.

01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:33.060
Delete that and just look at that front door

01:27:33.060 --> 01:27:35.279
and everything. I was like, oh, that's a Sunfire.

01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:41.500
As a GM front wheel drive enthusiast, the Sunfires

01:27:41.500 --> 01:27:44.920
are fucking beautiful, too. Well, wait. Pontiac

01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:54.100
Fiero Fire. Pontiac Sunfire. Right? Like I have

01:27:54.100 --> 01:27:57.399
to pick one? No. It's like the same fucking thing.

01:27:57.579 --> 01:28:00.140
Yeah. They're the same thing. It's just the newer

01:28:00.140 --> 01:28:03.159
styling. Like they canceled the mid -engine.

01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:04.960
They're very different. No, no, no. I mean like

01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:08.880
the name and the size. They canceled the mid

01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:12.439
-engine. They went with the Sunfire with the

01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:14.739
actual. I love Sunfires. I think they're fucking

01:28:14.739 --> 01:28:18.279
cool. Sunfire is a continuation of the Sunbird.

01:28:21.380 --> 01:28:24.560
So not quite the same. But the Sunbird is also

01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:26.439
a beautiful car. There's one for sale in Nuevo

01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:30.880
that I wish I had the money to buy, but I don't.

01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:36.319
Oh, yeah. Sunbirds are so ugly. I like... So

01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:44.380
there's a hardtop version. Yeah. That... I absolutely

01:28:44.380 --> 01:28:46.760
love. I'm not the fan of the convertible. I do

01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:50.960
understand why you like the Sunbirds. Like, I

01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:54.039
get your history with it, but I'd take like a

01:28:54.039 --> 01:29:01.020
1970s. Hold on. Let me look here. Let's say 1987.

01:29:03.979 --> 01:29:07.460
No, I love Sunbirds. Not the convertibles. I

01:29:07.460 --> 01:29:09.539
don't like the convertibles. Let's go earlier.

01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:13.470
Only like the hardtops. Let's go earlier. Or

01:29:13.470 --> 01:29:17.529
later. How about 1975? Did they have a 1975 Pontiac

01:29:17.529 --> 01:29:22.510
Sunbird? Yeah, they did. I'd take that, even

01:29:22.510 --> 01:29:26.130
though I still don't like the front end. But

01:29:26.130 --> 01:29:31.869
I'd rather have that than the 80s one. No, 90s

01:29:31.869 --> 01:29:35.609
all day. I sent one to the group chat. Sunbird

01:29:35.609 --> 01:29:38.310
GT. Yeah, dude, they just look like your 442.

01:29:39.380 --> 01:29:41.539
I sent one to the group chat, which is the type

01:29:41.539 --> 01:29:44.180
that I like. Yeah, I could see it with the body

01:29:44.180 --> 01:29:46.800
kit there. I could see it looks a little better.

01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:50.159
I could see that. Yeah, that's what I like. It's

01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:53.420
given like Nissan Skyline, like Nissan. It's

01:29:53.420 --> 01:29:56.159
like it's kind of got a Silvia front end. Yeah.

01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:00.720
Like, I love it, dude. I'm sorry. I can't help

01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.829
it. GM made some cool cars, and then they turned

01:30:03.829 --> 01:30:05.710
into what we have today, and they're all trash.

01:30:06.069 --> 01:30:12.949
Yeah, me and Sienna were sending pictures and

01:30:12.949 --> 01:30:16.430
videos of Toyota Crowns to each other because

01:30:16.430 --> 01:30:19.470
we really want a fucking Crown so bad. Dude,

01:30:19.550 --> 01:30:23.130
so a couple years ago, there was one for sale

01:30:23.130 --> 01:30:25.529
out in Bridgeton. It sold for like three grand

01:30:25.529 --> 01:30:28.390
with like 40 ,000 miles on it. What a fucking

01:30:28.390 --> 01:30:34.270
deal. right right hand drive just freshly imported

01:30:34.270 --> 01:30:37.289
like four grand problem was they were selling

01:30:37.289 --> 01:30:39.409
it in the wrong spot where people don't know

01:30:39.409 --> 01:30:42.250
what they're looking at yeah what a fucking deal

01:30:42.250 --> 01:30:46.390
i wanted that car so bad because i'm like even

01:30:46.390 --> 01:30:48.210
if i didn't keep it if i could just come up with

01:30:48.210 --> 01:30:50.170
three grand and then i list it in like grand

01:30:50.170 --> 01:30:53.069
rapids or detroit i'm gonna make money off it

01:30:53.069 --> 01:30:55.449
yeah what was that one i showed i sent to you

01:30:55.449 --> 01:30:57.109
guys the other day and was like someone buy this

01:30:57.109 --> 01:31:00.739
for me i'll pay you back I don't even remember.

01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:06.479
It is. I'm looking up. Oh, yeah. Oh, hey. Since

01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:08.600
this is a very extended wrap, you're probably

01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:10.239
going to get this. This is going to be the part

01:31:10.239 --> 01:31:18.779
three or part two. But I hit a deer. Oh, yeah.

01:31:18.979 --> 01:31:23.399
And smoked that motherfucker. That one girl,

01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:26.739
someone wasn't paying attention. Oh, my God.

01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:29.939
Okay. You responded with whatever you responded

01:31:29.939 --> 01:31:33.520
with. Did you see my response? Yeah. Maybe she

01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:36.859
was talking about the deer. Yeah. Dude, that

01:31:36.859 --> 01:31:41.140
pissed me off so bad when she said that. I don't

01:31:41.140 --> 01:31:45.579
know why. I was just fucking livid. Because,

01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:50.060
like, who are you to tell me my driving is, like,

01:31:50.220 --> 01:31:52.800
I'm a great driver. This is the first time I've

01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:57.729
hit a deer. fucking 10 years like which for listeners

01:31:57.729 --> 01:32:00.930
we live in michigan there are deer everywhere

01:32:00.930 --> 01:32:03.989
the night before that yeah i shared a video of

01:32:03.989 --> 01:32:06.390
almost hitting a deer hunt with my ford yeah

01:32:06.390 --> 01:32:11.270
so i was getting up it was friday i was getting

01:32:11.270 --> 01:32:16.170
up um and going to work and it was like 320 and

01:32:16.170 --> 01:32:22.239
i was only um what two miles from my house and

01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:27.359
I was on right before Summer Road, and fucking

01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:30.300
three deer ran across left to right. There was

01:32:30.300 --> 01:32:33.699
a car oncoming, so I couldn't swerve to the oncoming

01:32:33.699 --> 01:32:37.439
lane, and I couldn't swerve down into the ditch.

01:32:38.180 --> 01:32:42.079
All I could do is try to shoot for the gap in

01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:44.859
between the deer, and that's what I tried to

01:32:44.859 --> 01:32:48.859
do. And I fucking smacked on the brakes, locked

01:32:48.859 --> 01:32:52.680
those bitches up. and swerved for the opening

01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:57.279
in the deer and did not fucking get it. I fucking

01:32:57.279 --> 01:33:02.359
clocked that deer on the left side of my truck,

01:33:02.420 --> 01:33:06.779
and most of her body hit my fucking winch mount,

01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:11.619
and the knuckle fucking bursted her hind ass

01:33:11.619 --> 01:33:15.319
open, I guess. Ah, you were aiming for her. Yeah,

01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:16.819
that's what it looked like. That's what they

01:33:16.819 --> 01:33:18.930
thought. They're like, it looks like you aimed

01:33:18.930 --> 01:33:20.750
for, like, where the fuck else am I supposed

01:33:20.750 --> 01:33:23.470
to go? I could see that you were trying to aim

01:33:23.470 --> 01:33:25.989
between the two deer. Yeah, it's very obvious

01:33:25.989 --> 01:33:32.189
that. And Word, Drew from MST, he's a really

01:33:32.189 --> 01:33:35.970
cool guy. He's like, yes, because Gavin wants

01:33:35.970 --> 01:33:39.569
to go and smash his fucking really nice rig.

01:33:39.710 --> 01:33:42.210
Like, that's exactly what he was going for, was

01:33:42.210 --> 01:33:44.949
going to smash it. And I'm like, yeah, yeah,

01:33:44.989 --> 01:33:48.050
no, it's probably the only. the biggest investment

01:33:48.050 --> 01:33:52.729
I've ever had other than my wife. Like, that's

01:33:52.729 --> 01:33:56.229
what I replied with. Like, dude, I smacked the

01:33:56.229 --> 01:34:00.270
deer. It tucked her underneath my truck. I ran

01:34:00.270 --> 01:34:02.630
her over with both tires, spit her out the back

01:34:02.630 --> 01:34:10.890
end, and I had zero damage. Zero. I definitely

01:34:10.890 --> 01:34:15.939
saw plastic flying. Yeah, that's cosmetic. Like

01:34:15.939 --> 01:34:18.159
I would have gotten that bombing down a trail

01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:22.060
too. Like it's no different. Like I'm talking,

01:34:22.119 --> 01:34:25.319
there's no steering change. There was no fluid

01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:29.079
leak. There was all there was. The only fluid

01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.659
that leaked was from the deer. And that was a

01:34:31.659 --> 01:34:36.239
shit on my tire. I don't know how. I do wish

01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:39.699
that you had, uh, I'd seen that earlier. So I

01:34:39.699 --> 01:34:41.279
could have went and pulled some back straps though.

01:34:41.820 --> 01:34:44.380
Yeah, someone did say on the back straps. I said,

01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:47.479
I burst that fucking stomach open. It's still

01:34:47.479 --> 01:34:50.220
back straps. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, go ahead.

01:34:50.340 --> 01:34:52.680
Take it. I didn't know it was opening day of

01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:55.180
dough season two. I could have. I could have

01:34:55.180 --> 01:34:57.539
fucking grabbed it, but I was tired, dude. I

01:34:57.539 --> 01:35:00.600
thought I just fucked up my truck because I had

01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:03.319
a wobble in my wheel for a second. And I think

01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:05.500
it was. And you're on. you're on your way to

01:35:05.500 --> 01:35:07.199
work like where are you gonna put it when you're

01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:09.680
at work right yeah just throw it in my passenger

01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:13.020
seat like i saw someone at lepping stew then

01:35:13.020 --> 01:35:16.659
it would rot out no i there was a last fall i

01:35:16.659 --> 01:35:18.420
had a picture of it i think i shared it to you

01:35:18.420 --> 01:35:22.560
guys um we got out at lepping sienna and i and

01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:24.880
there's literally a fucking dead deer laying

01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:26.939
in this guy's passenger seat like a passenger

01:35:26.939 --> 01:35:32.079
with the seat belt on him fucking and and i look

01:35:32.079 --> 01:35:34.180
at sienna go Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing?

01:35:34.300 --> 01:35:36.659
And she goes, yeah, that's a dead deer. I said,

01:35:36.779 --> 01:35:38.600
well, I guess that works. I don't know why you

01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:41.020
didn't put them in the fucking trunk, but. I

01:35:41.020 --> 01:35:43.159
wish I could say that's the first time I've seen

01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:46.420
that. But, dude, deer season in Nuevo County

01:35:46.420 --> 01:35:48.180
is a whole different fucking piece. Yeah, a bunch

01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:50.640
of hillbillies, dude. Dude, it pissed me off.

01:35:50.699 --> 01:35:52.220
I was like, there's no tarp. There's nothing.

01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:55.579
He's just got this dead deer sitting in his passenger

01:35:55.579 --> 01:35:58.939
seat like a person. And it was fucking hilarious,

01:35:59.220 --> 01:36:03.319
but it's like, god damn it. I do recovery like

01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:05.960
deer recovery for a lot of the hunters around

01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:08.439
me because I'll just drive out there with the

01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:11.859
forerunner. We just throw the deer in the, you

01:36:11.859 --> 01:36:14.180
know, on the front bumper there on top of the

01:36:14.180 --> 01:36:16.739
winch. And I just drive out of the field because

01:36:16.739 --> 01:36:18.840
their trucks ain't making it back there. Yeah,

01:36:18.920 --> 01:36:22.680
I think I think we need to. And that reminds

01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:26.739
me before we get off tonight, I think we need

01:36:26.739 --> 01:36:31.710
to before winter hits. replace our winch lines,

01:36:32.149 --> 01:36:36.210
prioritize our recovery gear, get a couple shackles

01:36:36.210 --> 01:36:43.050
each, get a block and tackle so that we are ready

01:36:43.050 --> 01:36:45.350
because this year we're going to be bumping.

01:36:46.090 --> 01:36:49.130
Our recovery business is going to be bumping.

01:36:49.569 --> 01:36:53.229
I won't need a new winch line because I'll have

01:36:53.229 --> 01:36:56.470
a brand new winch. Yeah. because i'm putting

01:36:56.470 --> 01:36:58.130
a new winch on the truck yeah well thankfully

01:36:58.130 --> 01:37:01.149
you won't need a new bumper either because we

01:37:01.149 --> 01:37:06.970
got that solved yeah dude oh my god but i i do

01:37:06.970 --> 01:37:09.329
think it's funny up until a couple like a month

01:37:09.329 --> 01:37:12.090
ago my most watched video on instagram was my

01:37:12.090 --> 01:37:15.909
bumper breaking and oh and i might need your

01:37:15.909 --> 01:37:18.829
help first time i've done it but i gotta buy

01:37:18.829 --> 01:37:22.100
some stuff for a tune -up on my truck I don't

01:37:22.100 --> 01:37:23.899
know what the chugging is, but I want to get

01:37:23.899 --> 01:37:27.840
that addressed before winter. And I'm going to

01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:32.779
start buying parts now. Power steering pump.

01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:34.779
I don't know if I want to fuck with the water

01:37:34.779 --> 01:37:36.579
pump after all the shit you had to deal with.

01:37:37.619 --> 01:37:40.779
It wasn't bad on Alan's truck. I hear it's a

01:37:40.779 --> 01:37:43.520
lot worse on the 4 .0. Yeah, I don't want to.

01:37:43.619 --> 01:37:47.579
We have the same engine. No, I have a 3 .4. No,

01:37:47.699 --> 01:37:52.029
me and Mark. yeah but alan has a 3 -4 like me

01:37:52.029 --> 01:37:54.850
oh okay yeah no i thought you were talking about

01:37:54.850 --> 01:37:58.850
the 4 -0 as in my my truck and i was like i'm

01:37:58.850 --> 01:38:00.350
pretty sure we have me and mark have the same

01:38:00.350 --> 01:38:04.109
one but i'm talking about the black alan's truck

01:38:04.109 --> 01:38:06.529
is a 3 -4 and we did timing on that and we had

01:38:06.529 --> 01:38:09.210
no problems i need there looks like there's some

01:38:09.210 --> 01:38:13.670
been some fluid kind of wet on my rear diff so

01:38:13.670 --> 01:38:15.909
i need to i need to change that out before winter

01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:22.880
I need to put a new crush washer in. I need to

01:38:22.880 --> 01:38:27.439
do the plugs, check those. I haven't done those

01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:34.819
in five years. And I need to get that steering

01:38:34.819 --> 01:38:40.380
pump done and bought because I'm pretty sure

01:38:40.380 --> 01:38:42.300
that's where my whirring is coming from, that

01:38:42.300 --> 01:38:47.010
whirring sound. Because I had that power steering

01:38:47.010 --> 01:38:50.890
issue, I added fluid, and eventually I had it

01:38:50.890 --> 01:38:52.729
fixed, but I'm pretty sure it's good. What kind

01:38:52.729 --> 01:38:56.609
of fluid did you add? I can't remember. Joe told

01:38:56.609 --> 01:39:00.550
me to put it in there. I think it was ATF? Yeah.

01:39:01.689 --> 01:39:05.569
Okay. That's what it's supposed to be. Yeah.

01:39:06.130 --> 01:39:10.210
So I just need to replace that, replace the idlers

01:39:10.210 --> 01:39:14.649
again, replace the belt, check the alternator.

01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:17.739
I want to go through all that stuff. I don't

01:39:17.739 --> 01:39:20.899
have any weird shakes or pulls. I don't have

01:39:20.899 --> 01:39:23.359
any weird clicking or anything like that as far

01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.239
as suspension and driving goes. So I think I'm

01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.699
going to leave that for the winter and address

01:39:30.699 --> 01:39:34.220
it with just maintenance parts in the spring.

01:39:35.220 --> 01:39:45.069
What are you doing on Saturday? I feel like I

01:39:45.069 --> 01:39:47.289
have something going on, but I can't remember

01:39:47.289 --> 01:39:53.510
why. We're going up to Misek to drive Misek about

01:39:53.510 --> 01:39:58.930
50 miles. Oh, let's see. Is it October? No, it's

01:39:58.930 --> 01:40:04.949
September. So, 16th, Friday, Saturday. Oh, I

01:40:04.949 --> 01:40:11.010
have nothing. Originally, we were going to do

01:40:11.010 --> 01:40:14.869
the Pow Wow in Nuego. because they have a powwow

01:40:14.869 --> 01:40:20.670
and sienna is part native and i have always loved

01:40:20.670 --> 01:40:22.689
the native american culture and stuff and was

01:40:22.689 --> 01:40:24.670
told i was native my whole life until i took

01:40:24.670 --> 01:40:27.590
this dna test a couple years ago and found out

01:40:27.590 --> 01:40:31.090
i have zero percent native american in me which

01:40:31.090 --> 01:40:33.289
made me feel like my whole life's a lie but anyway

01:40:33.289 --> 01:40:36.729
uh because we went to powwows and stuff growing

01:40:36.729 --> 01:40:40.970
up like my mom said my grandmother was cherokee

01:40:40.970 --> 01:40:47.310
well Now I feel like a poser. Anyway, we were

01:40:47.310 --> 01:40:49.050
going to do the powwow, and then Sienna found

01:40:49.050 --> 01:40:51.369
out she had to work this weekend, so nothing

01:40:51.369 --> 01:40:57.050
now. So, yeah, maybe I'll pop along. Yeah, it's

01:40:57.050 --> 01:41:02.710
going to be me, Mark, Alan, Jesse, Kaylin. I

01:41:02.710 --> 01:41:04.489
think that's the whole group that's going. I

01:41:04.489 --> 01:41:08.029
think it's me and Jasper. I wanted to take Jaxie,

01:41:08.130 --> 01:41:10.590
but he's going to go to the zoo with my sister.

01:41:11.500 --> 01:41:16.359
Not my other sister. Yeah. Not his mom, his aunt,

01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:20.260
but still my sister. Checks out. Yeah. No comment.

01:41:22.920 --> 01:41:26.060
But yeah, what do you think, man? It's hour 40.

01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:29.020
Yeah. I think it's good enough, right? We got

01:41:29.020 --> 01:41:31.439
three episodes and then a little. I should probably

01:41:31.439 --> 01:41:35.939
update about what happened this weekend. It's

01:41:35.939 --> 01:41:38.010
going to be quick. I washed the 4Runner. While

01:41:38.010 --> 01:41:39.750
I was washing the 4Runner, I sprayed the frame,

01:41:39.890 --> 01:41:42.670
and now there's new holes in the frame. That's

01:41:42.670 --> 01:41:46.930
why we don't wash our trucks. You would have

01:41:46.930 --> 01:41:49.050
never had the holes if you didn't wash it. I'm

01:41:49.050 --> 01:41:52.109
laying under the truck, washing it. As I spray

01:41:52.109 --> 01:41:55.170
this section, the metal goes away, and I'm like,

01:41:55.250 --> 01:42:00.130
son of a bitch. So speaking of rust and frames,

01:42:00.470 --> 01:42:04.989
I was underneath our truck. just checking the

01:42:04.989 --> 01:42:08.289
rust checking for deer damage friday sienna was

01:42:08.289 --> 01:42:10.289
out there with me because you know she was home

01:42:10.289 --> 01:42:14.329
that day and i was like all right well let's

01:42:14.329 --> 01:42:16.430
find all the damage i was down under where the

01:42:16.430 --> 01:42:21.350
hitch was and i went like this and knocked on

01:42:21.350 --> 01:42:23.869
the frame, and I go, see, son, this is what a

01:42:23.869 --> 01:42:26.810
solid frame looks like. And I said, here, you

01:42:26.810 --> 01:42:29.029
try. So he goes on there and he goes, knock,

01:42:29.069 --> 01:42:31.270
knock, knock, and he knocks on it too, says knock,

01:42:31.409 --> 01:42:33.689
knock, knock. And I go, yep, that's one solid

01:42:33.689 --> 01:42:36.710
frame, son. I said, don't worry, we'll take you

01:42:36.710 --> 01:42:38.770
over to Uncle Alex's house so you can see what

01:42:38.770 --> 01:42:42.090
a holy frame looks like. And he goes, holy frame?

01:42:42.229 --> 01:42:44.989
I'm like, yes, this is the ones that you pray

01:42:44.989 --> 01:42:48.739
when you get in your truck every time. that it

01:42:48.739 --> 01:42:52.520
doesn't fold on you the holy frame and and i

01:42:52.520 --> 01:42:54.840
uh i haven't i should bring him over now so he

01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:58.100
can do that so he could tap tap tap and then

01:42:58.100 --> 01:43:01.039
see that you got like oh there's more holes oh

01:43:01.039 --> 01:43:06.819
that's a holy frame i swear like i gotta cut

01:43:06.819 --> 01:43:10.739
uh body mount off and patch behind the body mount

01:43:10.739 --> 01:43:13.680
put a new body mount on i've got a body mount

01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:16.539
that's rotted out like the frame around it is

01:43:16.539 --> 01:43:19.130
fine But the actual hole that the body mount

01:43:19.130 --> 01:43:21.250
sits in is rotted out. Yeah. So you got to cut

01:43:21.250 --> 01:43:24.590
that off and replace it. Like, dude, keeping

01:43:24.590 --> 01:43:27.170
an old truck together in Michigan fucking sucks.

01:43:27.329 --> 01:43:29.590
Sienna and I are going to buy a wire welder here

01:43:29.590 --> 01:43:33.829
to just play with. And I want to get really good

01:43:33.829 --> 01:43:37.210
at it. A wire welder? Yeah, like the flux score.

01:43:37.369 --> 01:43:39.689
I don't know what they're called. Yeah. A MIG

01:43:39.689 --> 01:43:42.449
welder. Yeah, yeah. Like the one we have. I don't

01:43:42.449 --> 01:43:47.840
know. They're like $150 at Harbor Freight. Yeah,

01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:49.800
yeah, that one. They're great. Yeah, I don't

01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:52.619
know. I just work here. I just want to get one

01:43:52.619 --> 01:43:55.840
and then sit there on a piece of steel and practice

01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:58.600
welding over and over until I'm better than you

01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:01.039
guys. And then I can say I'm better than you.

01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:03.960
Have you seen the off -road trailer updates?

01:44:04.420 --> 01:44:08.619
Yeah. Yeah. You just have some shop toolboxes

01:44:08.619 --> 01:44:11.279
sitting on there. Well, they're not sitting.

01:44:11.340 --> 01:44:14.199
They're part of it. They look cooler with packouts,

01:44:14.380 --> 01:44:19.039
all right? It did, but okay. The packouts were

01:44:19.039 --> 01:44:21.560
kind of a pain in the ass because you had to

01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:25.020
unstack everything to get to tools. Right. And

01:44:25.020 --> 01:44:30.659
it got old. So we did two just, I think they're

01:44:30.659 --> 01:44:34.460
craftsman toolboxes. I'm not even sure. They're

01:44:34.460 --> 01:44:37.479
painted army green to match the trailer. Then

01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:42.590
we've got packouts on top of those. There's a

01:44:42.590 --> 01:44:45.949
big packout in the back to hold bigger tools.

01:44:46.270 --> 01:44:49.229
So there's four spots to put packout containers

01:44:49.229 --> 01:44:52.069
on top of all the storage we added. All you need

01:44:52.069 --> 01:44:56.350
to add is a generator. That's next. A compressor

01:44:56.350 --> 01:45:02.149
and a compressor hose reel. The compressor and

01:45:02.149 --> 01:45:06.079
hose reel are also getting work done. The two

01:45:06.079 --> 01:45:08.039
things we have left to do is a generator and

01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:10.279
a compressor. You know what you could do instead

01:45:10.279 --> 01:45:13.359
of the big -ass compressor hose reel? You could

01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:18.140
just use the Apex reels. That also has been discussed.

01:45:18.439 --> 01:45:22.539
Yeah. Do they have the same PSI as a normal air

01:45:22.539 --> 01:45:26.340
tank compressor using Apex? Yeah. Yeah, so that

01:45:26.340 --> 01:45:29.720
would be way better. Yeah, it would look sick.

01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:35.479
It would look absolutely sick. So that is the

01:45:35.479 --> 01:45:38.020
plan. We're going to probably mount an Apex hose

01:45:38.020 --> 01:45:42.359
reel right to one of the Craftsman toolboxes

01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:45.420
there. And then the compressor will sit in the

01:45:45.420 --> 01:45:49.199
front, right in front of those. We have a shop

01:45:49.199 --> 01:45:51.779
press that is going to get mounted. It'll lay

01:45:51.779 --> 01:45:54.399
down, so you have to take it off to use it. But

01:45:54.399 --> 01:45:56.920
that'll lay between the two boxes and then between

01:45:56.920 --> 01:45:59.720
the generator and the packout in the back. And

01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:02.090
then there will be a generator in the back. And

01:46:02.090 --> 01:46:05.609
then, yeah. You're missing one thing. What's

01:46:05.609 --> 01:46:07.869
that? The most important thing for any trailer

01:46:07.869 --> 01:46:12.250
to have. What's that? A bench vise. You have

01:46:12.250 --> 01:46:15.310
to have a bench vise. Oh, we already have a bench

01:46:15.310 --> 01:46:17.050
vise. I just haven't mounted it yet. It's going

01:46:17.050 --> 01:46:20.710
on one of those Fender workbench top things.

01:46:20.770 --> 01:46:25.229
Okay, yeah. Yeah, and then I... I said weld it

01:46:25.229 --> 01:46:28.789
to the tongue, like the bracket coming out of

01:46:28.789 --> 01:46:31.720
there. We don't really have a bracket, dude.

01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:35.060
Ours is, it's pretty short, but, um, the next

01:46:35.060 --> 01:46:38.739
thing after all of that is we're talking about

01:46:38.739 --> 01:46:42.199
building a frame that goes up above the two craftsmen

01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:44.720
boxes that when you pull into a spot, you can

01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:47.260
just pop it up and then pull two awnings off

01:46:47.260 --> 01:46:49.699
it. So you'll have awnings on either side. So

01:46:49.699 --> 01:46:52.479
if it's raining, you can get into the box and

01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:56.539
the workspace without getting wet. Yeah. Or just

01:46:56.539 --> 01:46:58.859
bring like a 12 by 12 and throw it in behind

01:46:58.859 --> 01:47:02.619
there. Knowing you, you would be like, that's

01:47:02.619 --> 01:47:04.380
better, because then we could move it, and it's

01:47:04.380 --> 01:47:07.279
portable. No, because when do you have to...

01:47:07.279 --> 01:47:10.359
Okay, it is better if it's your truck, but your

01:47:10.359 --> 01:47:14.659
trailer, we're going to unhook it anyway. Just

01:47:14.659 --> 01:47:18.439
saying. So we're going to do two awnings off

01:47:18.439 --> 01:47:21.079
the trailer, and then a hard top to kind of protect

01:47:21.079 --> 01:47:23.399
everything. It's going to be sick, dude. No matter

01:47:23.399 --> 01:47:25.439
what way you look at it, the trailer's really...

01:47:25.600 --> 01:47:29.779
changing um i've also got a toyota axle that

01:47:29.779 --> 01:47:31.479
we're going to cut the center section out of

01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:36.199
and extend um and then cut the shafts so that

01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:38.880
they just bolt on that way we don't have to deal

01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:41.920
with a diff in the center anymore yeah um speaking

01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:44.899
of tools not to change the subject real quick

01:47:44.899 --> 01:47:48.899
but to change the subject um our super secret

01:47:48.899 --> 01:47:53.079
master plan i've been away for a few months as

01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:58.890
we both know and I haven't seen a lot of Alex's

01:47:58.890 --> 01:48:01.529
updates, but we have a super secret master plan

01:48:01.529 --> 01:48:05.590
that we've been working on. I got another part

01:48:05.590 --> 01:48:09.829
of it. Yeah, and how's that going? We haven't

01:48:09.829 --> 01:48:14.029
talked for long because it's been a really, really,

01:48:14.130 --> 01:48:18.970
really rough few months for me. So I haven't

01:48:18.970 --> 01:48:21.029
been on much. I haven't been talking to anybody

01:48:21.029 --> 01:48:23.560
much. I've just been doing my thing and keep

01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:26.560
my head down. And there's a lot of stuff that

01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:30.420
Alex has been into that. I have no idea what

01:48:30.420 --> 01:48:33.340
the fuck's going on right now. I'm just slowly

01:48:33.340 --> 01:48:35.520
collecting parts when I have money and I haven't

01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.699
had money to do anything with it in like two

01:48:37.699 --> 01:48:41.319
months. Yeah. So, but I mean, it's going good.

01:48:41.420 --> 01:48:45.039
I've got, what do you say percentage wise on

01:48:45.039 --> 01:48:48.100
the first one? How are you looking? First 10?

01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:51.880
No. First one, one roll. I'm doing, I'm doing

01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:54.739
10 at once. Okay. That would be why you're. Yeah.

01:48:55.640 --> 01:48:58.060
Yeah. That's why it's taken so long because it

01:48:58.060 --> 01:49:00.000
just makes more sense since I'm shipping so many

01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:02.640
parts from China to not do one at a time. Right.

01:49:03.100 --> 01:49:15.579
Um, so I have maybe 30%, 35%. Okay. It's good

01:49:15.579 --> 01:49:19.079
to know. We, uh, We'll update you guys when it

01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:21.699
becomes more. If you've listened to one of our

01:49:21.699 --> 01:49:25.760
earlier episodes, you might know what we're talking

01:49:25.760 --> 01:49:28.600
about, but we're not telling anybody else. It's

01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:32.659
only for the people who go back and listen. Basically,

01:49:33.060 --> 01:49:37.100
I'm setting up some pretty cool stuff for Toyotas.

01:49:37.100 --> 01:49:41.020
That's all there is to it. You know what we also

01:49:41.020 --> 01:49:44.819
have to figure out? What's that? We need to grease

01:49:44.819 --> 01:49:50.319
our lines this winter and see what works. Oh,

01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:52.560
yeah. We do need to do that. What if we try just

01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:56.399
using... It'd be super sticky, gross, and messy.

01:49:57.359 --> 01:49:59.159
I don't know if you can see this because it's

01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:02.720
black in a dark room. Yeah, not at all. That

01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:06.880
just made it blacker. Oh. Well, there's one of

01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:13.390
the parts. And then I got a bunch of these. Like

01:50:13.390 --> 01:50:15.510
it's, I don't know, man, this has been, it's

01:50:15.510 --> 01:50:19.869
been a fun thing to figure out. Yeah. And yeah,

01:50:19.949 --> 01:50:25.270
actually, if you go to our file server, I think

01:50:25.270 --> 01:50:27.449
you're part of the group that has access to that.

01:50:27.449 --> 01:50:30.609
I haven't looked at it in months either. I've,

01:50:30.609 --> 01:50:35.850
I've been adding all the, uh, um, like invoices

01:50:35.850 --> 01:50:39.289
and stuff for it. Yeah. So I need to add more

01:50:39.289 --> 01:50:43.479
invoices. So for our winch line project, I'm

01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:49.239
thinking a light coat of marine grease. That's

01:50:49.239 --> 01:50:52.140
not a bad idea. Because marine grease is supposedly

01:50:52.140 --> 01:50:56.739
good for salt. Salt water. I wonder how thick

01:50:56.739 --> 01:50:58.560
it would have to be, but I'm thinking a light

01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:02.880
coat on the synthetic line. Wind it up, and then

01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:06.399
we test that this winter to see if it freezes.

01:51:08.619 --> 01:51:12.810
And then see what we would need to change. you

01:51:12.810 --> 01:51:16.609
know what i'm saying yeah i and the thing is

01:51:16.609 --> 01:51:19.489
i've talked to some people that make winch lines

01:51:19.489 --> 01:51:22.489
and none of them have any idea on how to keep

01:51:22.489 --> 01:51:24.430
them from freezing and i'm like guys come on

01:51:24.430 --> 01:51:27.189
we gotta do it that's our million dollar idea

01:51:27.189 --> 01:51:30.510
they're like it's not a problem that most people

01:51:30.510 --> 01:51:33.710
have and i'm like yes but we do here yes we do

01:51:33.710 --> 01:51:37.250
here um how many people live in the snow area

01:51:37.250 --> 01:51:42.739
oh fuck oh dry A dry silicone spray isn't a half

01:51:42.739 --> 01:51:46.140
bad idea. Yeah, but wouldn't that just get wet

01:51:46.140 --> 01:51:50.520
by the water? No, if we used a dry silicone spray,

01:51:50.699 --> 01:51:53.199
it would kind of waterproof it a little bit.

01:51:53.739 --> 01:51:57.100
Something like liquid wrench. What about graphite?

01:52:00.260 --> 01:52:02.359
Graphite would just get wet by the water. That

01:52:02.359 --> 01:52:05.000
wouldn't really work. Oh, the graphite lubrication

01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:07.750
wouldn't work? Yeah, and I think that graphite

01:52:07.750 --> 01:52:10.090
would eat into the synthetics. We should look

01:52:10.090 --> 01:52:15.050
into food grade, to be honest, like food grade

01:52:15.050 --> 01:52:20.289
lubrication, because just like if we could find

01:52:20.289 --> 01:52:23.930
a food grade grease, that would be probably the

01:52:23.930 --> 01:52:29.329
best thing to try because it is eventually going

01:52:29.329 --> 01:52:33.720
to wear and come off. It has no impact on the

01:52:33.720 --> 01:52:35.880
environment being like food grade and natural.

01:52:37.340 --> 01:52:40.479
Not saying beeswax, but something food grade

01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:45.840
would be probably really. I have some food grade

01:52:45.840 --> 01:52:49.539
grease that we could try sitting in my truck

01:52:49.539 --> 01:52:56.039
right now. Huh. Yeah. I don't know. I want to

01:52:56.039 --> 01:52:57.800
see how we can fix it, though, because last winter

01:52:57.800 --> 01:52:59.800
when your winch line froze, that fucking sucked.

01:52:59.880 --> 01:53:02.819
That could have been really bad if we didn't

01:53:02.819 --> 01:53:06.760
have my front winch knuckle to help with pulling

01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:09.699
that car out. That could have been pretty damn

01:53:09.699 --> 01:53:13.279
bad. Now, could we have fixed it, you know, if

01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:18.199
I carried, like, an inverter and a fucking, you

01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:21.000
know, a heat gun? Well, I had my... I had my

01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:22.800
heat gun in the truck, but I didn't have a battery

01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:25.979
for it. And we didn't have time, really. We were

01:53:25.979 --> 01:53:27.640
trying to get that out. We were blocking the

01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:30.819
road in three different ways with the tow truck

01:53:30.819 --> 01:53:34.680
driver. In the wintertime, I carry a Bauer heat

01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:38.180
gun in my truck all the time because I'll be

01:53:38.180 --> 01:53:41.439
at work. Actually, I bought it for work and made

01:53:41.439 --> 01:53:44.340
them pay me back for it because I'll go to shift

01:53:44.340 --> 01:53:46.699
the tractor and the shifter will freeze. And

01:53:46.699 --> 01:53:48.340
then I got to sit there and hit it with a heat

01:53:48.340 --> 01:53:50.890
gun. To get to a point where I can use the tractor

01:53:50.890 --> 01:53:54.909
again. Yeah. Maybe heat gun. Maybe we should.

01:53:55.109 --> 01:53:58.930
We talked about our winter kits last week. Maybe

01:53:58.930 --> 01:54:02.090
heat gun should really be in a winter kit for

01:54:02.090 --> 01:54:05.710
us up here. That is a super smart and useful

01:54:05.710 --> 01:54:09.210
idea. How many times have your locks frozen?

01:54:09.590 --> 01:54:14.670
Fuck. I don't lock my truck. Also, to be fair.

01:54:15.119 --> 01:54:17.140
to even get in your truck to get the heat gun,

01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:21.960
you'd have to unlock your truck. Oh, that's something

01:54:21.960 --> 01:54:24.579
you keep in a box on the roof. Yeah. So I didn't

01:54:24.579 --> 01:54:26.800
tell you, but the other day I became a locksmith.

01:54:28.180 --> 01:54:30.460
I almost went up for hire. Oh, I did tell you.

01:54:30.500 --> 01:54:33.800
Yeah. I'll tell the crew before we get off here.

01:54:33.859 --> 01:54:36.600
I think we talked about it in our last rap. Did

01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:39.399
we? Yeah. I can't even remember. Oh, that's fine.

01:54:39.520 --> 01:54:45.630
We're at hour 54 now. Yeah. All right. Well,

01:54:45.630 --> 01:54:47.670
I'm good, man. I ain't got nothing else to talk

01:54:47.670 --> 01:54:49.229
about. I'm sure we could think of something,

01:54:49.289 --> 01:54:54.170
but I don't think we need to. No. Don't do drugs.

01:54:54.170 --> 01:54:56.390
Stay in school. All right, I'm out. Alcohol's

01:54:56.390 --> 01:54:56.850
too much.