WEBVTT 00:00:19.689 --> 00:00:24.829 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Today, still me 00:00:24.829 --> 00:00:26.690 and Gavin in the same place, because we record 00:00:26.690 --> 00:00:29.730 on the same day. So, sorry, garbage audio again. 00:00:31.190 --> 00:00:35.049 We have a voicemail from a listener. Let me actually 00:00:35.049 --> 00:00:38.710 see, maybe we have two voicemails. I haven't 00:00:38.710 --> 00:00:42.350 checked in a while. No, it's only one. We have 00:00:42.350 --> 00:00:45.490 a voicemail from a listener, and then we're going 00:00:45.490 --> 00:00:47.490 to talk about getting your vehicle ready for 00:00:47.490 --> 00:00:50.969 wintertime. So, should be a pretty good half 00:00:50.969 --> 00:00:54.369 hour episode. We'll get right into it. We're 00:00:54.369 --> 00:00:56.130 going to start with a voicemail. This is Mason 00:00:56.130 --> 00:01:02.210 from Pittsburgh, which I'm not 100 % sure on 00:01:02.210 --> 00:01:04.750 who Mason is. I know he did Trail Hero X Season 00:01:04.750 --> 00:01:07.409 1. I think he's the guy that won Trail Hero X 00:01:07.409 --> 00:01:12.250 Season 1. Mason, let me know if you are. If you 00:01:12.250 --> 00:01:17.680 are, congrats, I guess. Yeah, so I'll play Mason's 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:21.739 voicemail, and then we will talk about it. Hey, 00:01:21.819 --> 00:01:24.519 Botch's crew. Mason from Pittsburgh here calling 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:27.379 in again. On the most recent episode, y 'all 00:01:27.379 --> 00:01:30.299 were talking about some of the different TV shows, 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:32.400 car -related ones growing up with all that stuff. 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:34.819 I think the host y 'all were thinking of was 00:01:34.819 --> 00:01:39.260 Stacey David. He had Gears, Trucks, and a couple 00:01:39.260 --> 00:01:41.640 other shows over the years. Insanely talented 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:47.769 builder, built some crazy rigs. some newer shows 00:01:47.769 --> 00:01:52.590 to watch. Don't forget about Trail Hero X. Oh, 00:01:52.609 --> 00:01:56.129 my phone fell asleep. They're on Speed Sport 00:01:56.129 --> 00:01:58.489 1 there. You can go over to, I believe it's Trail 00:01:58.489 --> 00:02:18.689 Hero X. So I've actually went and watched Trail 00:02:18.689 --> 00:02:23.129 Hero X, and I'm like 95 % sure I'm going to apply. 00:02:23.770 --> 00:02:27.909 Yeah. It looks like a fucking blast, dude. There's 00:02:27.909 --> 00:02:30.110 some things like it costs money, so maybe I'll 00:02:30.110 --> 00:02:32.069 like crowdsource it. Like, hey, you want to see 00:02:32.069 --> 00:02:33.849 one of your friends from Michigan go do something 00:02:33.849 --> 00:02:37.490 cool? Right. But it looks sick, dude. Seriously. 00:02:39.169 --> 00:02:43.930 It was really fun to watch. And the guy. I don't 00:02:43.930 --> 00:02:46.310 remember his name. The guy that hosts it, or 00:02:46.310 --> 00:02:48.909 one of the hosts, every show he's done is fucking 00:02:48.909 --> 00:02:54.650 hilarious. I can't. I haven't watched it yet. 00:02:54.990 --> 00:03:00.009 I haven't been watching it a lot. I think... 00:03:00.009 --> 00:03:03.610 What was it last? I've been watching a guy that's 00:03:03.610 --> 00:03:07.949 restoring old muscle cars and old trucks. That's 00:03:07.949 --> 00:03:12.090 all I know. It's made me want to get one. because 00:03:12.090 --> 00:03:14.689 i'm tired of working on electronics he's like 00:03:14.689 --> 00:03:17.229 oh what's wrong with it let's just throw some 00:03:17.229 --> 00:03:21.569 ether in the carb and try spark plugs and he's 00:03:21.569 --> 00:03:24.650 like yep spark plugs now it's the timing let's 00:03:24.650 --> 00:03:28.110 twist the timing and it's like twist the distributor 00:03:28.110 --> 00:03:30.430 cap a little bit he's like yeah look now this 00:03:30.430 --> 00:03:33.250 car is running and just bombs down the road in 00:03:33.250 --> 00:03:37.180 it i'm like yeah man all right Okay, looking 00:03:37.180 --> 00:03:39.000 it up, I can't figure out the guy's name. But 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:41.020 yeah, he's got one host. He's got like a mohawk 00:03:41.020 --> 00:03:43.879 and stuff. And he's always got like a crazy style. 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.719 And he just seems like a cool guy. Like Guy Fieri? 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:51.199 Like Trailhawk? Like him on like steroids. Like 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.419 in Trail Hero X, there's an episode where he's 00:03:54.419 --> 00:03:59.180 wearing like red cowboy boots or something. He 00:03:59.180 --> 00:04:03.439 seems like he'd be a hoot to get to know, you 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:07.169 know? Oh, sure. Yeah, he did Truck Nights in 00:04:07.169 --> 00:04:11.009 America, too, which, if anyone hasn't watched 00:04:11.009 --> 00:04:13.349 that, Truck Night in America is pretty good. 00:04:14.169 --> 00:04:16.790 I've got some issues with some of the way they 00:04:16.790 --> 00:04:19.209 did some of the competitions, but when you're 00:04:19.209 --> 00:04:21.509 making TV shows, you can't really make them realistic. 00:04:22.550 --> 00:04:27.750 Yeah. It's like a TV show called The Boonies. 00:04:28.009 --> 00:04:32.439 It's on Nat Geo, or Geo History Channel. And 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:36.240 one of the people that live in the boonies is 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:38.839 this guy named Dan Burton from Beaver Island. 00:04:39.100 --> 00:04:44.180 I knew him personally. And I knew how he lived, 00:04:44.180 --> 00:04:45.879 and I knew everything. And I was like, you guys 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.579 are spicing it up a little bit for the show, 00:04:48.699 --> 00:04:52.220 right? Like, he's, like, talking about how he's, 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.720 like, he is pretty self -reliant. You know, they 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.040 are kind of a homestead -y type people. But they're 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:01.110 still a town, like, 10 minutes away. So one day 00:05:01.110 --> 00:05:02.949 he's like, we got to catch this fish or we're 00:05:02.949 --> 00:05:05.490 not going to have dinner. And I'm like, I'm sure 00:05:05.490 --> 00:05:08.870 you'll be okay. And it was probably, he said 00:05:08.870 --> 00:05:11.930 like, we're planning on fish for dinner. So if 00:05:11.930 --> 00:05:13.569 I don't catch this fish, we don't have dinner. 00:05:13.629 --> 00:05:15.930 But they cut it to make it sound more extreme. 00:05:16.290 --> 00:05:18.670 Yeah. And then like there was one time that he 00:05:18.670 --> 00:05:21.629 went to like Hog Island or something. And it's 00:05:21.629 --> 00:05:23.870 pretty close to Beaver Island. And his boat went 00:05:23.870 --> 00:05:26.670 down or his dog ran away or something on the 00:05:26.670 --> 00:05:28.569 island. And he had to stay the night on the boat. 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.480 On the island. And I'm like. You guys are just. 00:05:31.540 --> 00:05:34.480 Making things dramatic. Yeah. It's not even. 00:05:34.860 --> 00:05:36.959 So yeah. I mean. They gotta spice things up. 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:41.379 For the show sometimes. But. It's all. Ruined 00:05:41.379 --> 00:05:44.060 deadliest catch for me. And. Every other show. 00:05:44.259 --> 00:05:47.160 It just. I don't know. Like I've. There's another 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:52.199 show. What was it called? What was that? Street 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.379 Outlaws. Yeah. Takeover or whatever. One of my 00:05:55.379 --> 00:05:57.480 buddies was on that. And the way that he was 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.660 on the show. And yeah, sorry, Gavin, that chair 00:06:00.660 --> 00:06:03.279 makes a bunch of noise. Now let's make a noise. 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:07.740 So, um, yeah, when he, uh, the way it was on 00:06:07.740 --> 00:06:10.100 the show is like not how he is at all. Yeah. 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.600 And like they, uh, I think they, that one was 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:15.939 kind of orchestrated because this car did not 00:06:15.939 --> 00:06:18.500 perform how his car actually performs. And it's 00:06:18.500 --> 00:06:23.519 like, but they got to add drama, you know? Yeah. 00:06:24.420 --> 00:06:26.660 Drama is what keeps you focused and keeps you 00:06:26.660 --> 00:06:30.129 into it. yeah so i i'm excited for trail hero 00:06:30.129 --> 00:06:33.949 x season two um it just it seemed like like everyone 00:06:33.949 --> 00:06:36.209 there seemed to be having fun and when everyone 00:06:36.209 --> 00:06:38.490 else is having fun it makes watching it a lot 00:06:38.490 --> 00:06:41.350 more fun oh for sure yeah and like it's cool 00:06:41.350 --> 00:06:43.689 man they do so it's a hundred mile drive every 00:06:43.689 --> 00:06:46.629 day and then they do some challenge back at camp 00:06:46.629 --> 00:06:49.850 like there's one uh they had to change a spare 00:06:49.850 --> 00:06:53.329 tire uh you know whoever changed it the fastest 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.139 It kind of cracked me up because I'm watching 00:06:56.139 --> 00:06:58.399 these people pull out, like, scissor jacks and, 00:06:58.439 --> 00:06:59.660 like, trying to figure out how to get their factory 00:06:59.660 --> 00:07:02.180 spare down. And I'm like, dude, I could have 00:07:02.180 --> 00:07:04.639 that tire changed like that. Oh, yeah, dude. 00:07:05.019 --> 00:07:06.819 Especially with mine just sitting right on the 00:07:06.819 --> 00:07:10.480 back like that. Yeah. Zoom, zoom. Done. Yeah, 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:12.839 they're using, like, you know, four ways to take 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.720 them off. And I'm like, oh, no. I'd be... Yeah, 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:19.420 dude. Cheating. But it was pretty fun to watch. 00:07:19.579 --> 00:07:22.060 And then they did another episode or another... 00:07:22.459 --> 00:07:25.360 Challenge where they aired down everyone's tires, 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.980 and they had to go from, like, nothing to 20 00:07:28.980 --> 00:07:31.819 PSI or nothing to something really fast, and 00:07:31.819 --> 00:07:34.600 they used the Morphlates for it. Oh. Speaking 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:41.680 of Morphlate, Tyler, help me. No, I haven't been 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:44.120 on in a while, so I don't know if I talked about 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.240 my compressor dying. I don't think you have. 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.560 Yeah, my compressor, my Thor's Lightning, finally 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:55.509 died. And it was while I was airing up from the 00:07:55.509 --> 00:08:00.269 last camp I did, and I noticed it was making 00:08:00.269 --> 00:08:02.889 some funny sounds, and I stopped using it. I'm 00:08:02.889 --> 00:08:04.329 like, well, maybe I kinked a hose somewhere. 00:08:05.029 --> 00:08:07.209 And then I went to go use it again. Nothing. 00:08:07.829 --> 00:08:10.769 Nothing at all. Now it's completely almost destroyed, 00:08:10.870 --> 00:08:14.949 and now I am saving up for more flight because 00:08:14.949 --> 00:08:19.209 I'm done with that shit. I'm done using it for 00:08:19.209 --> 00:08:21.759 two or some years, and then... Having it die 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:24.920 on me, so I'm coming for you, Tyler. On that, 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:27.420 after this episode, I got something to share 00:08:27.420 --> 00:08:30.379 with you that might make you hold off on buying 00:08:30.379 --> 00:08:35.360 one. Okay. Yeah. Well, now I'm curious. I've 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.179 heard through the rumor mill, horse's mouth type 00:08:39.179 --> 00:08:41.539 rumor mill, there is something new coming to 00:08:41.539 --> 00:08:45.860 Morphlate, and it's going to be big. Big? Big. 00:08:46.259 --> 00:08:48.559 You guys will have to stay tuned to find out. 00:08:49.100 --> 00:08:51.159 We've got to wait until Tyler. I was like, I've 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:55.620 got to wait until Tyler. So he's talked about 00:08:55.620 --> 00:08:57.480 it on his podcast. I think it's on their website 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.720 now, so I'll talk about it. Tyler just came out 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:01.820 with a Switch panel that's absolutely fucking 00:09:01.820 --> 00:09:04.940 sick. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think I've seen some 00:09:04.940 --> 00:09:08.379 of that. The Morphlate PPP. Yeah, I love PPPs. 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:14.440 PPPs. Yeah. So we've talked. uh not like publicly 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:16.299 yet so i don't know maybe he's not releasing 00:09:16.299 --> 00:09:18.340 this yet one of the features that they're working 00:09:18.340 --> 00:09:21.179 on for gen 2 of it which is why i'm not buying 00:09:21.179 --> 00:09:25.720 one yet i know is the ability to set up zones 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:28.500 so like let's say i just want my forward facing 00:09:28.500 --> 00:09:31.679 lights on i can set a zone where if i press a 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:33.879 button those turn on and off independently from 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:38.320 like my uh my rock lights or rear lights or whatever 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.279 yeah so if i'm driving around town I just hit 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.279 one button, all my front lights shut off. I'm 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.120 not blinding anyone, but my rock lights stay 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.779 on. Hey, I need that. I need that to hook up, 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.940 if somebody can help me, to like a paddle shifter 00:09:51.940 --> 00:09:55.940 type deal on my steering wheel. We'll do one 00:09:55.940 --> 00:09:59.059 of the foot switches. Yeah, yeah. Because I am 00:09:59.059 --> 00:10:02.720 sick of the motherfuckers flashing me on my lights. 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:05.100 Look, my headlights are bright, but they are 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:08.000 zoned so that... They are not the brightest in 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.240 your face unless I'm going down a hill or up 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.820 a hill and you get fucked. Dude, the power stroke. 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.960 I get blind flash so much. And I'm like, I don't 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.100 even put my bright lights on ever. No. No, it's 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:22.000 just because you're a higher truck and it's getting 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.080 right in their line of sight. Oh, yeah, I get 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:25.980 flashed all the time, and it starts to annoy 00:10:25.980 --> 00:10:27.799 me. I'm like, I'm going to turn on the sun, but 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:29.259 then I have to go to my Switch panel and go, 00:10:29.340 --> 00:10:31.539 choo -choo -choo -choo -choo -choo -choo. I have 00:10:31.539 --> 00:10:33.840 to hit every button to turn on the sun. Yeah, 00:10:33.899 --> 00:10:36.679 so that's going to be cool, and it's Bluetooth 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:38.340 -enabled, so you can program it all with your 00:10:38.340 --> 00:10:40.340 phone. Oh, yeah, that would be cool. So it's 00:10:40.340 --> 00:10:43.299 pretty exciting. It's higher than our cheap little, 00:10:43.379 --> 00:10:45.379 what do we use, make -tuning right now? Make 00:10:45.379 --> 00:10:47.620 -tuning, yeah. It's a higher price point than 00:10:47.620 --> 00:10:50.360 those. I think the one he's got now is $200, 00:10:50.620 --> 00:10:52.919 and then... The one he's working on is going 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:57.059 to be $250. To me, that's worth $250. One, not 00:10:57.059 --> 00:10:59.860 only has it got features that I actually care 00:10:59.860 --> 00:11:02.460 about, it's coming from someone that actually 00:11:02.460 --> 00:11:04.720 takes the time to implement the features I care 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:08.480 about. It's got a lifetime warranty, which none 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.019 of the other ones do. And Tyler's a pretty responsive 00:11:12.019 --> 00:11:14.259 guy. His company's really responsive. So if you 00:11:14.259 --> 00:11:16.559 need something to reach out, they're right there 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:18.519 to talk to you about it. Here's the big question. 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:23.919 Is it RGB? Yes. I'm sold. Are you sure you talked 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:30.100 about it? Yeah, he did on their podcast. He's 00:11:30.100 --> 00:11:31.539 going to get a message and Tyler's going to be 00:11:31.539 --> 00:11:33.559 like, this is the last time I tell you shit. 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:35.779 Tyler's going to be like, I ain't giving you 00:11:35.779 --> 00:11:39.039 no more insider information. You're a done -ass 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:43.840 hole. You're toast. Dude, I'm pretty excited. 00:11:43.980 --> 00:11:46.720 Morphly, this year, I think he said he had six 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:49.340 products in the pipeline, most of which aren't 00:11:49.340 --> 00:11:52.230 released yet. But we've seen the braided hose, 00:11:52.429 --> 00:11:56.509 which is a huge upgrade. And then now we're seeing 00:11:56.509 --> 00:12:01.429 the PPP, which, again, kind of changes the game 00:12:01.429 --> 00:12:04.710 for the cheaper end of switch panels. Yeah. Because 00:12:04.710 --> 00:12:06.409 a lot of the features you get in, like, the really 00:12:06.409 --> 00:12:09.450 high dollar ones. But he's giving you good features 00:12:09.450 --> 00:12:11.889 at a price that's actually acceptable. Yeah. 00:12:12.210 --> 00:12:14.409 And it's worth it. If you've used one of the 00:12:14.409 --> 00:12:16.690 cheaper ones, I can't say mine's disappointed 00:12:16.690 --> 00:12:19.289 me. It's done everything I've needed it to do. 00:12:20.029 --> 00:12:24.110 but it would i can't say it lacks like it lacks 00:12:24.110 --> 00:12:27.190 some features too like it i would love to do 00:12:27.190 --> 00:12:31.190 zone i would love to have it bluetooth um and 00:12:31.190 --> 00:12:33.070 in the future that's definitely something i'm 00:12:33.070 --> 00:12:38.370 considering but yeah yeah my uh my make tuning's 00:12:38.370 --> 00:12:42.240 been fine it works You got a different version 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:44.179 than I do. It's the same as yours, except it's 00:12:44.179 --> 00:12:48.500 not RGB. Hell yeah, dude. You lucked out. I was 00:12:48.500 --> 00:12:50.799 just going to say, my one complaint about mine 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.860 is that it only has a green backlight, so I just 00:12:54.860 --> 00:12:57.980 never have the backlight on. I don't think I 00:12:57.980 --> 00:13:02.000 can choose to turn mine off. Really? Yeah, it's 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:04.440 either on or it's... Oh, fuck. I'd hate that. 00:13:04.700 --> 00:13:07.740 I don't mind it. Like, I do red because red light's 00:13:07.740 --> 00:13:09.799 easier. That's why. If I can make mine red, I 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.960 probably have the backlight. Mine is red. You 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:17.000 can dim it. Yeah, I can dim it. I think there's, 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:22.960 like, five dim settings. Yeah, probably. I don't 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:29.230 even know. All I know is I changed my... my midland 00:13:29.230 --> 00:13:34.809 radios back screen to red and my migtuning backs 00:13:34.809 --> 00:13:38.110 uh you know rgb to red and now i'm left with 00:13:38.110 --> 00:13:42.470 this fucking bright green uh voltage meter that 00:13:42.470 --> 00:13:44.970 i can't change the color like oh i gotta go back 00:13:44.970 --> 00:13:46.750 to green we'll just get some we'll just get some 00:13:46.750 --> 00:13:51.490 red tape yeah oh that mark you've got all all 00:13:51.490 --> 00:13:53.710 your stuff is orange except for your switch panel 00:13:53.710 --> 00:14:01.250 right uh orange mix of origin reds I wish my 00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:06.570 voltage meter was red like my brother's. He found 00:14:06.570 --> 00:14:08.850 a red one. I was looking for a red one when I 00:14:08.850 --> 00:14:11.210 first bought those. All I could find was blues. 00:14:13.549 --> 00:14:16.850 Yeah. All I got was green. I didn't think it 00:14:16.850 --> 00:14:19.230 was going to be an issue back then. Now it's 00:14:19.230 --> 00:14:24.350 just annoying. I did also... I don't know if 00:14:24.350 --> 00:14:28.120 I talked about it. I did switch my LED cabin 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:31.659 lights to amber, like a dark amber. And they're 00:14:31.659 --> 00:14:34.740 bright, but they're not as bad as the LEDs are 00:14:34.740 --> 00:14:37.799 on the eyes. So that's been really nice, actually. 00:14:37.940 --> 00:14:40.779 Kind of a nice little cheap upgrade. Mine are 00:14:40.779 --> 00:14:45.120 still halogen, and they work -ish. You still 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.220 need a flashlight when they're on, which is great. 00:14:47.419 --> 00:14:49.120 You always want to have to carry a flashlight. 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:53.940 and then my my tailgate i still have them bright 00:14:53.940 --> 00:14:57.139 white ones which is still the best upgrade i've 00:14:57.139 --> 00:15:01.519 ever done on that truck but yeah so now that 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:04.879 we're halfway through it for about 15 minutes 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:09.320 or so let's talk about what we do for our trucks 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.299 to get ready for winter um i know a lot of our 00:15:12.299 --> 00:15:14.019 listeners they don't really get the winters that 00:15:14.019 --> 00:15:15.960 we get and apparently we're not getting one this 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.220 year but there's still stuff that i do in the 00:15:18.220 --> 00:15:20.960 truck that i don't do in the summer Yeah, I mean, 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:25.740 I do a full gear exchange. Like, I take my fridge 00:15:25.740 --> 00:15:29.200 out, that goes inside, the battery that goes 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.559 internally and that goes inside stays on a charger. 00:15:32.500 --> 00:15:35.460 I take most of my camping equipment out because 00:15:35.460 --> 00:15:37.399 I don't do much camping at all in the winter. 00:15:37.620 --> 00:15:42.080 I put all my recovery gear in, snowsuit, snow 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:48.639 boots, spare gloves, wool blanket, a... cheap 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.559 aluminum shovel not a plastic one because those 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:54.659 things break all the time yeah they do especially 00:15:54.659 --> 00:15:57.879 in the winter because the plastic's cold and 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.799 more brittle yeah so a nice aluminum one which 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.240 mine works really well we used it last year when 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.080 i got stuck in the snow bank with mitch i used 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:11.539 it last year to dig out uh uh retard run site 00:16:11.539 --> 00:16:13.840 because kevin forgot it in the back of my truck 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:16.179 and it was just there and then i had like two 00:16:16.179 --> 00:16:17.840 months later i'm like hey who should i believe 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.519 it is but yeah no that was that's been really 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:25.360 useful i make sure all my fluids are topped i 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:33.399 switch out my someone knocking on the door i'll 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:36.220 be right back you guys kind of monologue But 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:41.299 I switch out my windshield washer fluid for a 00:16:41.299 --> 00:16:44.320 different temperature because I usually have 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:47.220 summer fluid in there. And that'll freeze. So 00:16:47.220 --> 00:16:53.139 I do that. I like to keep some extra towels and 00:16:53.139 --> 00:16:56.820 stuff in my car. That's pretty much it. I just 00:16:56.820 --> 00:17:00.440 want to make sure that I'm ready if I break down. 00:17:00.659 --> 00:17:03.080 I keep some meals ready to eat. I keep a little 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.490 bit of the butane camp stove. I always keep the 00:17:06.490 --> 00:17:09.130 jet boil with me in the winter just in case because 00:17:09.130 --> 00:17:12.509 if I need to, I can boil water, I can make some 00:17:12.509 --> 00:17:17.150 food if I ever get stranded. It's just something 00:17:17.150 --> 00:17:20.289 nice to have. But I think I over -prepare a little 00:17:20.289 --> 00:17:26.769 bit. And then I might find a cover or something 00:17:26.769 --> 00:17:30.029 for my winch so that I can have that covered 00:17:30.029 --> 00:17:32.190 so my winch line doesn't freeze like it did last 00:17:32.190 --> 00:17:34.210 year because that was a big issue with me last 00:17:34.210 --> 00:17:39.009 year. We did that recovery with the tow truck, 00:17:39.150 --> 00:17:41.329 that we tandemed with the tow truck, me and Alex. 00:17:42.269 --> 00:17:47.569 And my winch line froze, and it was not easy 00:17:47.569 --> 00:17:49.910 to get off. I don't think I even got, I got like 00:17:49.910 --> 00:17:54.529 six inches out of it, and that was it. So, yeah, 00:17:54.609 --> 00:17:58.029 not ideal when you're trying to help do that. 00:17:58.150 --> 00:18:00.589 So he ended up using me as an anchor point, and 00:18:00.589 --> 00:18:02.549 then I ended up pulling the car the rest of the 00:18:02.549 --> 00:18:07.789 way off of my... d -ring so um i'm gonna find 00:18:07.789 --> 00:18:10.430 a way to try to cover that up or maybe throw 00:18:10.430 --> 00:18:16.430 a bunch of uh like uh grease like uh what do 00:18:16.430 --> 00:18:18.349 they call that like bear grease or something 00:18:18.349 --> 00:18:21.210 like that just try to grease the line up so it 00:18:21.210 --> 00:18:25.630 doesn't freeze to itself i don't know we're still 00:18:25.630 --> 00:18:27.329 looking into that because it would be nice to 00:18:27.329 --> 00:18:29.450 come up with something that makes it so that 00:18:29.450 --> 00:18:32.299 your line doesn't freeze up like that But with 00:18:32.299 --> 00:18:34.220 all the salt and the water that you get in the 00:18:34.220 --> 00:18:35.960 front of your truck right there, it's kind of 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:41.859 hard. What about you? Do you do anything different 00:18:41.859 --> 00:18:45.240 for the winter? I usually drop the skid plate. 00:18:45.500 --> 00:18:49.740 And then prepping -wise, we usually try to do 00:18:49.740 --> 00:18:53.380 a deep clean on the undercarriage. Then spray 00:18:53.380 --> 00:18:58.519 it down with new paint and rust preventive. Just 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:01.299 that way it can last and not... rust during the 00:19:01.299 --> 00:19:05.940 winter yeah that's a good idea dropping the skid 00:19:05.940 --> 00:19:10.000 plates i i understand why you would do that um 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.779 just so that you're not keeping a bunch of snow 00:19:12.779 --> 00:19:16.519 and salt all packed in and then ice extra weight 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:20.500 but um i don't think i've ever done that i just 00:19:20.500 --> 00:19:22.720 figured i might need it in the snow but yeah 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:24.720 you don't do a lot of wheeling in the winter 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:26.920 no that'd be nice to have everything kind of 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.269 drain and be able to clear off. Yeah. And if 00:19:29.269 --> 00:19:31.910 we did something extreme where we actually are 00:19:31.910 --> 00:19:34.109 warranted the plate, then we will throw it on. 00:19:34.309 --> 00:19:37.309 But for the most part, we usually just run without 00:19:37.309 --> 00:19:43.490 skids for the winter. Yeah. I mean, there's not 00:19:43.490 --> 00:19:46.450 a whole lot, even in Michigan, the skids are 00:19:46.450 --> 00:19:50.509 like super important. Like biggest obstacle in 00:19:50.509 --> 00:19:55.470 the winter for us is just snow. So, well, I mean, 00:19:55.470 --> 00:19:59.220 otherwise, I mean, tires and stuff they say the 00:19:59.220 --> 00:20:05.279 same i don't switch out tires no so um i have 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:09.059 wild peaks and for my fj they do great in the 00:20:09.059 --> 00:20:11.859 winter so i don't have any issues with those 00:20:11.859 --> 00:20:14.359 i can get through some pretty deep snow in those 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:19.000 wild peaks without having an issue so um i i 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.400 don't have any i don't do anything tire wise 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:27.140 mechanically I don't really do anything. It's 00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:29.779 just being prepared in case of breakdown, in 00:20:29.779 --> 00:20:35.019 case of recovery. That's pretty much it. I also 00:20:35.019 --> 00:20:39.339 refill my fluids or make sure they're all topped 00:20:39.339 --> 00:20:42.319 off, like oil and stuff like that. I keep my 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:46.480 spare oil, spare breakable parts that are typically 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:50.660 something that go on a car. I keep in there. 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:53.000 I just keep those in year -round, though. I just 00:20:53.000 --> 00:21:00.119 top off the fluids. But, yeah, I mean, that's 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:04.180 pretty much it. I know we talked about this last 00:21:04.180 --> 00:21:08.079 year. I don't know if Alex has changed his opinion 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.940 at all. When he comes back, I'll ask him. He 00:21:10.940 --> 00:21:14.799 didn't really do a whole lot other than I think 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:17.940 he threw some work stuff in there, and that was 00:21:17.940 --> 00:21:20.980 about it. Well, he pretty much did what I did, 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:24.640 which was pretty much wash our undercarriage 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:28.359 and repaint it for the season. You know, like 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:30.700 I said, we drop our skids because we don't need 00:21:30.700 --> 00:21:35.740 them necessarily. And they just help prevent 00:21:35.740 --> 00:21:39.380 a hot spot for rust to settle, or salt to settle 00:21:39.380 --> 00:21:44.480 and stuff. Yeah, no, it's a good idea for sure. 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:49.059 I'll have to look into that, to doing that, because 00:21:49.059 --> 00:21:52.569 I've left mine on the past couple years. I haven't 00:21:52.569 --> 00:21:55.369 really noticed that there's been more rust, but 00:21:55.369 --> 00:21:58.609 I don't take them off much either. It's always 00:21:58.609 --> 00:22:00.529 good to take them off every once in a while and 00:22:00.529 --> 00:22:03.410 clean them out because you can get a good few 00:22:03.410 --> 00:22:06.849 inches of mud. Oh, yeah. Especially my skid plate 00:22:06.849 --> 00:22:11.789 last year. It was just weighted by mud. Yeah, 00:22:11.869 --> 00:22:15.089 it's like 40 pounds of mud just sitting on your 00:22:15.089 --> 00:22:18.660 skid plate. It's not great. No. It is good to 00:22:18.660 --> 00:22:20.380 clean those out every once in a while. Yeah, 00:22:20.380 --> 00:22:21.900 especially since it's already a steel plate, 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:26.059 so you're just adding more weight to it. Yeah, 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:30.900 I don't know. Alex might have changed since the 00:22:30.900 --> 00:22:33.759 last time that we've done it. Say what? From 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:36.779 the last time that we prepared for winter. Has 00:22:36.779 --> 00:22:40.440 your setup changed at all? I just have to pull 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.240 packouts out and put different ones in. Right, 00:22:43.299 --> 00:22:48.130 and what's in them? Tools. Yeah, so you do the 00:22:48.130 --> 00:22:51.609 same thing pretty much as you did last year, 00:22:51.670 --> 00:22:54.450 is just pull your old stuff out, put new pack 00:22:54.450 --> 00:22:58.750 out, and tools and recovery stuff. I don't usually 00:22:58.750 --> 00:23:00.569 have the kitchen in there in the winter because 00:23:00.569 --> 00:23:04.150 I don't camp as much. And then, obviously, wool 00:23:04.150 --> 00:23:07.490 blanket, that kind of stuff. Pretty much everything 00:23:07.490 --> 00:23:10.269 that you put in for the winter, I put in. I do 00:23:10.269 --> 00:23:13.130 do a deep clean where I clean the whole interior. 00:23:13.869 --> 00:23:16.089 clean the whole exterior and kind of get ready 00:23:16.089 --> 00:23:19.650 because the salt on the roads really eats through 00:23:19.650 --> 00:23:22.349 stuff. So getting all the mud off that you can 00:23:22.349 --> 00:23:26.829 prepares, it gives it less places for that salt 00:23:26.829 --> 00:23:30.130 to cling to the metal. The other thing I do is 00:23:30.130 --> 00:23:33.390 I pull my skid plates off because, which I know 00:23:33.390 --> 00:23:37.269 sounds terrible, but salt and slush will sit 00:23:37.269 --> 00:23:39.369 on that skid plate and it rots out the skid plate 00:23:39.369 --> 00:23:42.119 and the frame wherever it joins that. Mark talked 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:44.140 about that a little bit. That's one of the things 00:23:44.140 --> 00:23:46.960 you guys do. So, yeah, it makes more sense that 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:50.319 way. I was just telling him I don't ever do that, 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.079 but it's probably a good idea since I don't do 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:55.000 a lot of winter wheeling either. It also makes 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.859 the underside easier to wash on those warmer 00:23:57.859 --> 00:23:59.579 days where you take it to the car wash and wash 00:23:59.579 --> 00:24:03.420 the salt off. And you definitely, wintertime, 00:24:03.500 --> 00:24:05.859 we should be washing our cars at least once a 00:24:05.859 --> 00:24:08.559 week. If we get any type of warmer day, make 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:11.529 sure you wash it because when the... ice melts 00:24:11.529 --> 00:24:14.089 that's when the salt attacks yeah that's what's 00:24:14.089 --> 00:24:19.910 left is salt and water yeah so yeah sorry for 00:24:19.910 --> 00:24:22.349 that little uh interruption there part of living 00:24:22.349 --> 00:24:24.369 in a rural community is people stopping to ask 00:24:24.369 --> 00:24:29.269 to hunt my property random not really dude it 00:24:29.269 --> 00:24:31.490 happens all the time like probably once a week 00:24:31.490 --> 00:24:35.089 i have someone stop and ask to hunt here uh my 00:24:35.089 --> 00:24:37.269 father -in -law's old co -workers that he hasn't 00:24:37.269 --> 00:24:39.589 seen in years How you doing? We should get together. 00:24:39.769 --> 00:24:41.809 Oh, hey, by the way, can I pawn on your property? 00:24:42.049 --> 00:24:45.309 And he's like, that's all you want, bro? Yeah. 00:24:45.829 --> 00:24:49.769 But, yeah, really, the big thing for me is just 00:24:49.769 --> 00:24:52.970 finding ways to mitigate rust. I've been losing 00:24:52.970 --> 00:24:55.470 that battle. I've actually got, oh, I also patch 00:24:55.470 --> 00:24:57.849 any new holes I've found over the summer. I have 00:24:57.849 --> 00:25:01.349 three that I have to patch this year, one of 00:25:01.349 --> 00:25:03.549 which requires the front of the body coming off, 00:25:03.690 --> 00:25:05.390 which means new body mounts, which is going to 00:25:05.390 --> 00:25:09.680 be a pain in my ass. Yeah, for sure. But it's 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.519 got to happen. It's that or swap the frame, which 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:16.039 is the right answer, but also the expensive lots 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:21.579 of work answer. Yes, it is. Your truck was already 00:25:21.579 --> 00:25:25.799 down for a while this last summer. Yeah, four 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:31.140 fucking months. Okay, I got a nice new power 00:25:31.140 --> 00:25:33.940 stroke out of that deal, which now also has rust 00:25:33.940 --> 00:25:41.089 problems. I'm hoping to find a flatbed for that 00:25:41.089 --> 00:25:44.710 this winter and get that swapped because, dude, 00:25:44.829 --> 00:25:48.430 rust on the cab, it's annoying. I can repair 00:25:48.430 --> 00:25:50.990 it. Rust on beds, that shit's fucking terrible. 00:25:51.009 --> 00:25:56.369 Yeah. And common. So I plan on pulling my now 00:25:56.369 --> 00:25:58.809 starting to be rusty bed off and putting a flatbed 00:25:58.809 --> 00:26:02.029 on there. Yeah. Preferably an aluminum one. For 00:26:02.029 --> 00:26:03.910 sure. But I don't want to spend the $20 ,000 00:26:03.910 --> 00:26:07.490 it costs to buy an aluminum flatbed. Yeah. I 00:26:07.490 --> 00:26:13.710 know my uncle had an old, like an 85 Chevy, and 00:26:13.710 --> 00:26:16.509 he bought all the aluminum for it, and my dad 00:26:16.509 --> 00:26:19.650 did all the aluminum welding and fucking welded 00:26:19.650 --> 00:26:25.789 a whole flatbed to it. It was badass. That was 00:26:25.789 --> 00:26:27.769 when I knew my dad was actually good at one thing, 00:26:27.789 --> 00:26:32.730 and it's welding aluminum. That's like his bread 00:26:32.730 --> 00:26:39.220 and butter. My dad's one thing was cleaning up 00:26:39.220 --> 00:26:41.460 bodies and involving them. So, you know, everyone's 00:26:41.460 --> 00:26:45.680 got their thing. My dad was really great at welding 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.440 aluminum, and guess what he does for work? Not 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:54.480 bad. Don't know why, but whatever. But, all right, 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.700 guys, that's about the end of this little episode, 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.920 so we will catch you guys later. Gavin looks 00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:01.960 like he's going to fall asleep. I'm ready, too. 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:02.720 Later.