WEBVTT 00:00:16.300 --> 00:00:20.940 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. You know, we're 00:00:20.940 --> 00:00:26.059 all getting older. Mark is, what, 29 now? 28. 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:30.120 We'll be 29. I'm 28 right now. I just turned 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:34.820 30, and Gavin's this old man at 31. Yeah. Yeah. 00:00:35.219 --> 00:00:39.659 And it's got me thinking. I'm at my midlife crisis 00:00:39.659 --> 00:00:45.039 stage right now. I can't see myself. you know 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.979 getting past 60 i didn't see myself getting to 00:00:47.979 --> 00:00:51.039 30 and that was just because i thought i'd die 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:55.380 natural causes nothing nothing crazy but uh so 00:00:55.380 --> 00:00:58.219 i've been thinking a lot about you know i've 00:00:58.219 --> 00:01:00.759 been trying to find a good full -time job and 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:05.379 my resume is decent for sales but man i don't 00:01:05.379 --> 00:01:08.140 want to do sales the rest of my life i looked 00:01:08.140 --> 00:01:11.840 up camping jobs and they have like seasonal park 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:15.859 uh like attendance that i like live in i'm like 00:01:15.859 --> 00:01:18.980 well i don't want to live in one spot all summer 00:01:18.980 --> 00:01:21.319 like i want to be able to travel so that's not 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:24.099 gonna work so i've just been thinking about it 00:01:24.099 --> 00:01:27.799 man and i don't know man thought i thought about 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:31.260 being our own worst enemy for a while i always 00:01:31.260 --> 00:01:36.060 wanted to as a kid and i thought maybe oh dnr 00:01:36.060 --> 00:01:38.980 officer yeah yeah i saw mark kind of cock his 00:01:38.980 --> 00:01:42.239 head a little bit like but No, I mean, I always 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.640 wanted to be an officer when I was younger. Fuck, 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:47.519 now I'm 30. I don't know if I could get through 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.719 all the physical PT requirements. But I'm going 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:52.859 to, I don't know, we'll see. I'm going to try 00:01:52.859 --> 00:01:55.719 to get myself into good shape, and then I'll 00:01:55.719 --> 00:02:00.480 go from there. But that right now, like, I can't 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.140 figure out what I want to do. Like, I thought 00:02:02.140 --> 00:02:05.500 traveling the country and making YouTube videos 00:02:05.500 --> 00:02:09.000 and doing all that was going to be it. And I 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:11.650 really wanted to, but. I just don't have the 00:02:11.650 --> 00:02:13.750 front end budget to do it. You know what I mean? 00:02:13.849 --> 00:02:17.889 Like you, unless one of us wins some like crazy 00:02:17.889 --> 00:02:21.789 amount of money, like, and we just start throwing 00:02:21.789 --> 00:02:24.629 checks at each other. And I mean, anybody like 00:02:24.629 --> 00:02:28.270 me or my wife or something. And we just start, 00:02:28.370 --> 00:02:30.770 you know, we have a bazillion dollars all of 00:02:30.770 --> 00:02:33.270 a sudden, or one of my family members dies and 00:02:33.270 --> 00:02:36.569 leaves me a house. Like I can just sell it and 00:02:36.569 --> 00:02:38.590 travel for a few years and put everything I got 00:02:38.590 --> 00:02:41.960 into it. Like, there's just not something that 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:44.259 especially not with like gas prices at like five 00:02:44.259 --> 00:02:48.939 six seven dollars a gallon no it's just not something 00:02:48.939 --> 00:02:52.520 you can do right now unless you have like a really 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:56.819 good job to help you start out so yeah try to 00:02:56.819 --> 00:02:59.680 try to find a career path that lets me be outdoors 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:07.219 in nature um which is what i enjoy and have you 00:03:07.219 --> 00:03:11.310 thought about Farming. Yeah, I did. I thought 00:03:11.310 --> 00:03:15.629 about it. There was actually a turkey. There 00:03:15.629 --> 00:03:19.069 was a $30 -something an hour turkey farm job. 00:03:20.150 --> 00:03:22.729 And I thought about it. And then I remember everything 00:03:22.729 --> 00:03:26.270 that you talked about. And I was like, nah. Wait, 00:03:26.370 --> 00:03:28.550 you didn't send that to me? No, I thought it 00:03:28.550 --> 00:03:32.789 was from your company. No way. My company's paying 00:03:32.789 --> 00:03:36.389 $30 an hour. Who's paying? They might if they 00:03:36.389 --> 00:03:39.930 didn't include housing. I don't know. No, that 00:03:39.930 --> 00:03:42.090 sounds like some Sitesma stuff. Yeah, it was 00:03:42.090 --> 00:03:49.189 Sitesma. That's not my company. I might have 00:03:49.189 --> 00:03:53.129 to, you know, just in case one of my bosses is 00:03:53.129 --> 00:03:56.650 listening, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not on 00:03:56.650 --> 00:03:59.169 the Sitesma website looking at careers right 00:03:59.169 --> 00:04:02.370 now. His monitor lit up, though, like he is. 00:04:03.750 --> 00:04:06.870 yeah yeah i saw it though it was earlier today 00:04:06.870 --> 00:04:09.430 that i remembered everything that you talked 00:04:09.430 --> 00:04:13.389 about and i was like i'm good i don't think so 00:04:13.389 --> 00:04:19.350 so uh the the issue is is i'm i'm pretty over 00:04:19.350 --> 00:04:22.730 right right now so like getting into a super 00:04:22.730 --> 00:04:25.129 physically demanding job will fuck me up really 00:04:25.129 --> 00:04:28.569 quick if i just start like i don't have any conditioning 00:04:28.569 --> 00:04:32.449 so if i was to start like concrete tomorrow I 00:04:32.449 --> 00:04:35.829 would, like, throw my fucking back out instantly. 00:04:36.889 --> 00:04:41.870 And that sounds like a wussy response. I just 00:04:41.870 --> 00:04:47.069 know my body. Like, I fractured my L5 years ago, 00:04:47.189 --> 00:04:50.350 and I know, and I always think that I can go 00:04:50.350 --> 00:04:52.629 back to working hard like I always do. Like, 00:04:52.709 --> 00:04:55.009 I chopped, like, a couple cords of wood earlier 00:04:55.009 --> 00:04:59.259 this year. And after splitting a couple cords 00:04:59.259 --> 00:05:01.120 of wood and throwing all the wood, I was like, 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.879 fuck. Like, my back was killing me and stuff. 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.500 So I know I can't just go straight back and assume 00:05:07.500 --> 00:05:09.240 that I'm going to do well. Like, I got to build 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:13.459 that muscle back up. But that's why I got to 00:05:13.459 --> 00:05:15.699 condition, get myself back in better shape for 00:05:15.699 --> 00:05:18.060 whatever I'm doing, just for life in general. 00:05:18.259 --> 00:05:22.000 That's a big thing. Like, I think I let it go 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.600 for a while because I'm like, well, I can still 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:29.889 run. If I need to. Okay. A little side comment 00:05:29.889 --> 00:05:33.410 here. So, Seismos has a farm manager position 00:05:33.410 --> 00:05:43.870 in Coral right now? That's the one. Yeah. Dude, 00:05:44.110 --> 00:05:46.709 it's good money. It's the same exact thing you're 00:05:46.709 --> 00:05:50.509 doing. Yeah, well, and pay is based on experience. 00:05:50.970 --> 00:05:57.610 Yeah. Bet that trailer's looking pretty good 00:05:57.610 --> 00:06:01.670 all of a sudden. It does not have house for it 00:06:01.670 --> 00:06:08.449 right away, so I'd have to talk. I'd call him 00:06:08.449 --> 00:06:10.430 up, give him a call, be like, hey, man, this 00:06:10.430 --> 00:06:14.269 is what's going on. This is my situation I'm 00:06:14.269 --> 00:06:17.459 currently in. But, dude. This is all the fucking 00:06:17.459 --> 00:06:20.740 experience I have. This is my loss. This is how 00:06:20.740 --> 00:06:23.139 much I make in bonus because I don't let them 00:06:23.139 --> 00:06:25.639 die. You know, like, just lay it out for them. 00:06:25.660 --> 00:06:29.540 Let them know that you're worth it. Yeah, my 00:06:29.540 --> 00:06:31.720 thing is, though, I'm kind of waiting for something 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:34.899 to happen where they can't keep this farm for 00:06:34.899 --> 00:06:38.480 some reason and Saitama buys it anyway. Because 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.480 I don't, I really like where I live. Yeah, but 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.339 you got to think, like, if they can't keep the 00:06:45.339 --> 00:06:47.439 farm, they're probably going to sell everything 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.740 with it. Well, that's the point. If they sell 00:06:51.740 --> 00:06:55.220 it, who's going to buy it would be Sitesma's. 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.000 And if Sitesma's buys it, it's going to keep 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.439 me as a manager. Well, is it? Or are they going 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.100 to parcel it up and sell the property and the 00:07:04.100 --> 00:07:07.759 other stuff? It's not worth as much if they parcel 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.680 it up. They'll sell it whole. Yeah, but I don't 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:16.519 know. I know that Sitesmuzz has showed interest 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.680 in buying this place. And it makes more sense 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:25.160 for Sitesmuzz, too. The company that owns my 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.079 farm, they're all based out of Allendale. Everything's 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:32.199 in Allendale. Sitesmuzz is two miles away from 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.839 me on one direction and four miles on the other. 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:39.139 So we're all would be in the same area. Yeah, 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:43.670 it makes more sense. But, yeah, I just, I don't 00:07:43.670 --> 00:07:46.370 know. Mark, what do you think? Are you going 00:07:46.370 --> 00:07:49.149 to, you do like what, directional drilling? What 00:07:49.149 --> 00:07:51.550 is that technically? Yeah, underground boring. 00:07:52.050 --> 00:07:53.810 Is that something you're going to stay at for 00:07:53.810 --> 00:07:56.050 the rest of your life, or do you have a dream 00:07:56.050 --> 00:08:01.589 to do something else? I haven't decided if I'm 00:08:01.589 --> 00:08:03.949 going to stick with it after a couple years. 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:06.899 There's been stuff going around the rumor mill 00:08:06.899 --> 00:08:09.180 about the company may or may not get purchased 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:12.160 at some point in the next five years, but I don't 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:17.540 know much about that. Right. I know I need to 00:08:17.540 --> 00:08:20.339 work on it. I need to get my CDL. That way I 00:08:20.339 --> 00:08:25.279 can do something in case I dig it by out. And 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:29.540 I didn't want to stick with boring anymore. lifeline 00:08:29.540 --> 00:08:32.519 that i can do anything with yeah i know and i've 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:36.580 been looking at cdl too i if i go on adhd medication 00:08:36.580 --> 00:08:39.899 again like i should i start you know actually 00:08:39.899 --> 00:08:42.379 follow through with it i could probably get a 00:08:42.379 --> 00:08:46.059 cdl and stuff i think that my biggest fear is 00:08:46.059 --> 00:08:50.299 like take like taking the wrong turn and going 00:08:50.299 --> 00:08:53.879 down on one of those bridges or something But 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:56.259 I thought about it, and it's like every four 00:08:56.259 --> 00:09:01.460 job posting is a CDL hire job. Like propane, 00:09:01.539 --> 00:09:05.779 Amerigas right now is hiring for like 28 or 32 00:09:05.779 --> 00:09:09.919 an hour for a propane driver. Dude, you should 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:12.620 do it. You should do it so you can be like Hank 00:09:12.620 --> 00:09:17.639 Kill. Propane, propane accessories. It's just 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:23.389 a very good thing to have. I don't know if I 00:09:23.389 --> 00:09:26.730 can do it right now with my mental state. I can't 00:09:26.730 --> 00:09:28.850 even remember what the fuck I put on when I'm 00:09:28.850 --> 00:09:36.710 wearing it. I'm really hoping that my hot shot 00:09:36.710 --> 00:09:38.789 business kind of takes off so I can just quit 00:09:38.789 --> 00:09:41.129 my job and do that full time. Yeah, hire me for 00:09:41.129 --> 00:09:45.429 something. I don't know what. I'm good for 40 00:09:45.429 --> 00:09:48.090 hours a week, Monday through Friday, some weekends, 00:09:48.509 --> 00:09:52.789 on call. Don't worry. You could do 40 hours a 00:09:52.789 --> 00:09:55.809 week. That's fine. You can do eight hours a day, 00:09:55.909 --> 00:09:57.629 but you've got to sleep somewhere other than 00:09:57.629 --> 00:10:01.750 home every night except for weekends. Yeah, that 00:10:01.750 --> 00:10:08.389 sucks. Maybe in the future if something goes 00:10:08.389 --> 00:10:11.210 wrong in life, you know what I mean? That'll 00:10:11.210 --> 00:10:16.899 be the trick, but for now. At least for the first 00:10:16.899 --> 00:10:19.899 couple of years, we plan on sleeping in swags 00:10:19.899 --> 00:10:22.159 so we don't even have to get hotel rooms. Oh, 00:10:22.179 --> 00:10:25.539 yeah. We're starting a hot shop business with 00:10:25.539 --> 00:10:29.419 the bare minimum amount of money. We don't have 00:10:29.419 --> 00:10:34.100 anything. It's going to be job to job. That would 00:10:34.100 --> 00:10:38.639 be such a cool job if you were making good money 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:42.500 and then didn't have a set schedule or family, 00:10:42.580 --> 00:10:48.230 though. like to hot shot and then like have an 00:10:48.230 --> 00:10:51.970 extra long trailer with your rig on it and like 00:10:51.970 --> 00:10:55.809 hot shot across the country and then once you're 00:10:55.809 --> 00:10:59.909 done with that job take two days and like go 00:10:59.909 --> 00:11:02.110 let's say you had the hot shot to like denver 00:11:02.110 --> 00:11:05.029 colorado and you can go around colorado for a 00:11:05.029 --> 00:11:09.149 couple days chill go back home and then hot shot 00:11:09.149 --> 00:11:11.190 out to the next place in the u .s and that would 00:11:11.190 --> 00:11:14.440 just be such a cool number one, it would be a 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:17.960 really cool YouTube series. Someone was doing 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.399 that, you know, get a really small truck, like 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:23.679 a CJ or something that you could fit on a trailer 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.720 and not take up a lot of space. And then, or 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:29.559 even like a quad or razor really, if you want 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:31.340 to do it, it'd be really get like one of those 00:11:31.340 --> 00:11:37.419 rocks or the old CJ to a, but modern clone. It's 00:11:37.419 --> 00:11:39.740 a side -by -side technically, but it's literally 00:11:39.740 --> 00:11:43.340 a Jeep. Yeah. The one made by Mahindra. That'd 00:11:43.340 --> 00:11:46.419 be so sick, dude. We've been joking about getting 00:11:46.419 --> 00:11:48.879 some e -bikes. Oh, for sure. And putting them 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.340 on the trailer just to bum around with. Well, 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.799 I think you should do something like that anyways. 00:11:54.940 --> 00:12:00.320 Just for the sake of with you and what are you 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:04.879 guys' trailer? 20, 30 foot long trailer? 42. 00:12:05.950 --> 00:12:08.129 It's not super accessible, but be able to park 00:12:08.129 --> 00:12:10.509 it at a lot or park it at a truck stop. Exactly. 00:12:10.509 --> 00:12:13.289 Take those e -bikes and go hop down the road 00:12:13.289 --> 00:12:17.330 and grab some supplies or do whatever. I know 00:12:17.330 --> 00:12:21.929 in camping and stuff, I had an old -timer that 00:12:21.929 --> 00:12:25.970 camped. And he did, like, camper camping, like 00:12:25.970 --> 00:12:29.789 towed it behind his truck. But he had one of 00:12:29.789 --> 00:12:33.129 those mini bikes, like the little mini Coleman 00:12:33.129 --> 00:12:36.049 bikes. And he took that to putz around the campground 00:12:36.049 --> 00:12:37.909 with and, like, deliver his garbage. He had a 00:12:37.909 --> 00:12:40.210 little basket in the back of it. Deliver his 00:12:40.210 --> 00:12:42.549 garbage. And, like, he would run to town on it 00:12:42.549 --> 00:12:44.529 and grab a couple groceries and come back to 00:12:44.529 --> 00:12:50.509 camp on it. Like, it'd just be cool just to have 00:12:50.509 --> 00:12:53.149 that little extra mobility around you. But I 00:12:53.149 --> 00:12:55.649 think that would be such a cool. I don't see. 00:12:55.750 --> 00:12:57.889 I don't know. I don't look up hot shot people. 00:12:58.549 --> 00:13:00.950 But I don't know if there's anybody out there 00:13:00.950 --> 00:13:03.149 that's, like, doing hot shot and then, like. 00:13:03.710 --> 00:13:06.970 also wheeling while they're out you know yeah 00:13:06.970 --> 00:13:11.230 that would be a really cool youtube series i 00:13:11.230 --> 00:13:16.509 should get a honda moto compo uh that's the little 00:13:16.509 --> 00:13:19.009 honda scooter that like folds up and fits in 00:13:19.009 --> 00:13:21.889 the trunk of a city oh hell yeah yeah i've seen 00:13:21.889 --> 00:13:25.350 those those are cool hey which what's the company 00:13:25.350 --> 00:13:27.669 that's got them as like briefcases is that the 00:13:27.669 --> 00:13:31.870 honda that's got the honda does one too the moto 00:13:31.870 --> 00:13:40.210 compacto Do they see me rolling? I'm just wearing 00:13:40.210 --> 00:13:42.350 my little, like, scooter helmet. Yeah, dude. 00:13:43.289 --> 00:13:46.629 10 miles an hour. Get a Vespa. Throw a Vespa 00:13:46.629 --> 00:13:51.909 in the truck bed. That'd be sick. Put a cage 00:13:51.909 --> 00:13:55.090 on it. Get a one wheel. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Those 00:13:55.090 --> 00:13:58.950 are sick. Yeah. No, we'll do something, because 00:13:58.950 --> 00:14:02.100 it would be nice to just, you know. park the 00:14:02.100 --> 00:14:04.080 truck lock it up and then be able to like run 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:07.639 into town and do something um especially because 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.559 of the way we plan on doing it we plan on kind 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.340 of not necessarily campgrounds but kind of some 00:14:13.340 --> 00:14:17.139 rustic camping wherever we can um just just to 00:14:17.139 --> 00:14:20.419 save money dude like you know hotel rooms roughly 00:14:20.419 --> 00:14:22.740 a hundred dollars a night what if we don't have 00:14:22.740 --> 00:14:26.100 to pay that right just pop up a couple swags 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:28.179 and live out of it oh i mean and the cool thing 00:14:28.179 --> 00:14:31.259 is is like forest roads and around a lot of like 00:14:31.259 --> 00:14:34.799 blm and stuff forest roads are completely campable 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.179 you can camp on the sides of them so technically 00:14:38.179 --> 00:14:41.879 if you really wanted to you could pull to the 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:43.539 side of one of these forest roads throw your 00:14:43.539 --> 00:14:47.620 swags on the back of the trailer and spend a 00:14:47.620 --> 00:14:50.399 night in there pack up in the morning throw them 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.620 in the back of the truck and go i mean and We've 00:14:54.620 --> 00:15:00.419 actually been discussing the possibility. Okay, 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.480 at this point, it's beyond the possibility. We've 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:06.019 been planning for taking the center console out 00:15:06.019 --> 00:15:08.200 of the truck and putting a fridge right there. 00:15:08.259 --> 00:15:11.299 Yeah, that would make great sense. It makes so 00:15:11.299 --> 00:15:14.559 much sense, dude. Keep a 12 -pack in the back. 00:15:14.580 --> 00:15:16.980 Keep a couple of cans cold in there all the time. 00:15:17.139 --> 00:15:19.379 You can just grab whatever you want right from 00:15:19.379 --> 00:15:22.019 the driver or passenger seat. 12 -pack of soda, 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:25.070 guys. 12 -pack of soda. They're not hot -shotting 00:15:25.070 --> 00:15:27.490 and drinking. This isn't Smokey and the Bandit. 00:15:28.690 --> 00:15:36.529 Right, yeah. 12 -pack of sodas. Did I not say 00:15:36.529 --> 00:15:38.769 a 12 -pack of pop? No, you just said a 12 -pack. 00:15:40.049 --> 00:15:42.830 I'm thinking Faygo here, guys. Yeah, Faygo. Grape 00:15:42.830 --> 00:15:49.210 Faygo. I was thinking grape soda. Does most of 00:15:49.210 --> 00:15:51.710 our listeners even know what a Faygo is? Yeah, 00:15:51.750 --> 00:15:53.549 that's a Michigan soda. That's why I said Faygo. 00:15:53.750 --> 00:15:56.250 That's why I said Faygo. Yeah, it's a Michigan 00:15:56.250 --> 00:16:00.049 soda drink. By the way, and this is a tangent, 00:16:00.169 --> 00:16:03.009 but this has got to do with camping and being 00:16:03.009 --> 00:16:06.289 better health. We've been drinking Fresca, and 00:16:06.289 --> 00:16:10.710 that is the best zero -calorie soda replacement 00:16:10.710 --> 00:16:14.789 we've tried yet. It's not quite sparkling water. 00:16:16.549 --> 00:16:19.669 It's more of a soda taste, but it's got zero 00:16:19.669 --> 00:16:22.960 calories. I've been digging the shit out of those. 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.460 I mean, sparkling water's cool, but it tastes 00:16:25.460 --> 00:16:28.559 like fucking paint remnants inside of water. 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.519 Like, I feel like I would get asbestos poisoning 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:37.419 from it, or, like, lead paint poisoning. That's, 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.360 like, the aftertaste I get from, like, Waterloo 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:46.100 or La Croix. And I did that all summer while 00:16:46.100 --> 00:16:49.820 we were at camp. And I can't say that I sat down 00:16:49.820 --> 00:16:52.200 in my camp chair and was like, I can't wait to 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.080 crack open my LaCroix. I can't say that. Like, 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.980 Fresca's, I can do that. So that's going to be 00:16:59.980 --> 00:17:02.879 our new, like, all -around drink. They're refreshing. 00:17:03.059 --> 00:17:05.400 You can bring them to camp, and they're still 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.759 zero calorie. You know, there's a lot of calories 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:13.740 in a fucking soda, dude. I have pretty much completely 00:17:13.740 --> 00:17:20.710 cut pop. I drink the low sugar, no artificial 00:17:20.710 --> 00:17:24.789 coloring Gatorades. They're fucking bomb, dude. 00:17:25.049 --> 00:17:29.230 Yeah, everything I drink is low sugar or no sugar 00:17:29.230 --> 00:17:32.789 and zero calorie right now. So it's either water 00:17:32.789 --> 00:17:37.049 or Fresca. I am completely, unless Fresca has 00:17:37.049 --> 00:17:39.390 caffeine, I don't remember if they do or not. 00:17:39.470 --> 00:17:42.890 I'm completely, like, I don't drink any caffeine 00:17:42.890 --> 00:17:44.829 or consume any caffeine right now, which is. 00:17:45.609 --> 00:17:51.390 If you knew me two years ago, I had four monsters 00:17:51.390 --> 00:17:54.990 on me in the morning at the gas station. And 00:17:54.990 --> 00:17:57.849 by the time I was out of work, those would be 00:17:57.849 --> 00:18:03.910 gone. And that was my daily thing. Or four bangs. 00:18:04.210 --> 00:18:06.809 Like bangs and even more. And I still would drink 00:18:06.809 --> 00:18:09.670 four of them, fuckers. So for me to be completely 00:18:09.670 --> 00:18:11.930 off of caffeine is like a huge thing. Because 00:18:11.930 --> 00:18:13.730 I've been hooked on that since I was like... 00:18:15.619 --> 00:18:20.519 16, 14, something like that. So now I just got 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:24.599 to quit smoking. Oh, you're smoking now? Well, 00:18:24.779 --> 00:18:28.220 smoking, vaping, I do whatever I got. I still 00:18:28.220 --> 00:18:30.180 got a pack of cigarettes in my glove box for 00:18:30.180 --> 00:18:33.799 special occasions, you know, like my vape dyes 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:35.880 or something. I'm like, I really need something 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:42.390 real. I got to kick this pouch habit. But the 00:18:42.390 --> 00:18:44.490 problem is I like nicotine. I like the way I 00:18:44.490 --> 00:18:47.410 feel on nicotine. And it's an appetite suppressant, 00:18:47.430 --> 00:18:51.289 too. So it's like stopping it. So why am I so 00:18:51.289 --> 00:18:53.250 goddamn fat? Yeah, that's what I want to know. 00:18:53.849 --> 00:18:55.710 For me, it makes me scared because I'm like, 00:18:55.730 --> 00:18:57.910 I stop this and I start switching over to eating 00:18:57.910 --> 00:18:59.769 or something. I'm like, no, I'm not doing that. 00:19:00.430 --> 00:19:02.569 That's actually one of the reasons why I gained 00:19:02.569 --> 00:19:04.549 so much weight is because when I stopped vaping 00:19:04.549 --> 00:19:07.869 when Sienna was pregnant and after she had the 00:19:07.869 --> 00:19:11.029 baby. We would only eat fast food for the first 00:19:11.029 --> 00:19:13.150 couple months because we were all too fucking 00:19:13.150 --> 00:19:17.410 tired to cook or do anything. We couldn't do 00:19:17.410 --> 00:19:23.329 anything. And I quit smoking, so I was just binging 00:19:23.329 --> 00:19:26.829 and binging, and it was disgusting, dude. I'm 00:19:26.829 --> 00:19:29.009 so glad I'm over that now. I've actually lost 00:19:29.009 --> 00:19:34.930 weight. I was at 355 here a couple months ago. 00:19:35.500 --> 00:19:42.839 And I'm now at 324. Fuck. So I could fit into 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.680 shorts that I couldn't before. You can't tell 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:48.240 much when you look at me, but I feel better. 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.740 So that's good for me. Well, I must have found 00:19:52.740 --> 00:20:00.319 all of that because I went from 265 to 300. It's 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:05.890 a slippery slope. Yeah. The thing that bugs me 00:20:05.890 --> 00:20:08.269 is I didn't change eating habits. I didn't change 00:20:08.269 --> 00:20:12.029 anything. I just went from being 260 to 300. 00:20:12.130 --> 00:20:15.130 You just get older. The same thing happened. 00:20:15.210 --> 00:20:18.190 I didn't change anything, and I went from 200 00:20:18.190 --> 00:20:22.009 to 260. I got a buddy who was in the Marines, 00:20:22.130 --> 00:20:28.829 and he was built, fucking jacked, six -pack abs, 00:20:29.269 --> 00:20:33.019 all that. he stopped you know he started getting 00:20:33.019 --> 00:20:36.099 older by the end of his four years he was struggling 00:20:36.099 --> 00:20:39.420 to keep weight in the marines then he got out 00:20:39.420 --> 00:20:42.099 kept his same eating habits without doing pt 00:20:42.099 --> 00:20:45.480 or anything and fucking he went from like 180 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:51.740 jacked to like almost 300 and was like i i seen 00:20:51.740 --> 00:20:53.779 him after like a few years i'm like holy shit 00:20:53.779 --> 00:20:56.579 you're as fat as i am and he goes yeah i got 00:20:56.579 --> 00:21:01.619 out I was 200 pounds when I got out of the Army, 00:21:01.740 --> 00:21:04.900 and within that first year, I had hit 280, and 00:21:04.900 --> 00:21:08.019 then I cut it back to 260, and now I went up 00:21:08.019 --> 00:21:11.839 to 300. It's hard. And every year you get older, 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:14.839 it's harder to maintain your metabolism. Everything 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.539 starts slowing down. You start getting more achy, 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:20.980 so you don't want to do shit as much. Everything 00:21:20.980 --> 00:21:24.180 fucking hurts now. Yeah, nobody talks about that. 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:29.039 You got me at maintain 310 for two years. You 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:32.059 got to maintain 310 for her? No, my weight has 00:21:32.059 --> 00:21:35.160 been 310. It has not gone up or down for two 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:37.759 years. Yeah, you're a young buck. You're not 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.259 even 29 yet. I was going to say, I bet you if 00:21:41.259 --> 00:21:43.660 you cut your portions down and went to sugar 00:21:43.660 --> 00:21:46.380 -free, zero calorie, as much as you could find, 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:49.420 that's what helped me. When I start shopping 00:21:49.420 --> 00:21:54.099 now, any cheese, I'll try to get zero calorie 00:21:54.099 --> 00:21:57.339 or fat -free, anything like that. It's good for 00:21:57.339 --> 00:21:59.660 camping, too, because I indulge when I camp. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.079 And when I'm off -roading and stuff, I always 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:05.599 bring snacks. So I tend to binge when I'm out 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:07.559 there doing that stuff because I just eat and 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:11.799 eat. Or when we do three -day camp trips, I'll 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.200 just eat because we can, because we're camping. 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.799 And I use that as an excuse to, like, well, we're 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:19.940 out there. We're going to enjoy our time. Let's 00:22:19.940 --> 00:22:23.509 just eat whatever we want. So that kind of gives 00:22:23.509 --> 00:22:25.789 me a cheat code to keep things leveled out a 00:22:25.789 --> 00:22:28.829 little bit. Instead of going from a bag of chips, 00:22:28.869 --> 00:22:32.369 I'm going to popcorn, which is like you can get 00:22:32.369 --> 00:22:38.269 double the amount for less calories. I will admit 00:22:38.269 --> 00:22:40.390 I've been eating a shit ton of popcorn lately 00:22:40.390 --> 00:22:43.329 because I quit buying snacks, and I can just 00:22:43.329 --> 00:22:45.809 take my popcorn bucket to Wesco and get it filled 00:22:45.809 --> 00:22:48.349 for free. Yeah, but that butter is so bad for 00:22:48.349 --> 00:22:51.569 you, though. It is, but it's still better than 00:22:51.569 --> 00:22:54.869 me eating snacks all day. I do the Skinny Pop. 00:22:55.349 --> 00:22:59.950 It's like 100 calories per, it's like, what is 00:22:59.950 --> 00:23:02.690 it, cup, cup and a half? It's a good amount of 00:23:02.690 --> 00:23:06.549 popcorn. And so I'll eat that as a snack or on 00:23:06.549 --> 00:23:08.829 the side with like a sandwich or something, and 00:23:08.829 --> 00:23:13.390 I use low -calorie bread. That's like a big hit 00:23:13.390 --> 00:23:16.650 on us financially, is like going from $1 bread 00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:20.579 to $4 bread. and then you get have to get like 00:23:20.579 --> 00:23:23.680 four or five loaves right because it's smaller 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:27.920 too yeah but it all kind of goes out to like 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:31.960 um this all kind of plays back like the weight 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:34.859 thing the eating healthier smarter goes back 00:23:34.859 --> 00:23:38.740 into the whole camping it goes back into the 00:23:38.740 --> 00:23:41.539 off -road world and my career this all fits in 00:23:41.539 --> 00:23:44.750 for me we're talking about it Um, mainly because 00:23:44.750 --> 00:23:47.410 I'm just jabbering, but secondary because it 00:23:47.410 --> 00:23:50.769 does fit into multiple categories. And one is 00:23:50.769 --> 00:23:54.210 like, um, you don't really understand how hard 00:23:54.210 --> 00:23:58.390 it is to, unless you're overweight like me, um, 00:23:58.450 --> 00:24:01.750 how hard it is to shop for things, even camping. 00:24:01.990 --> 00:24:06.089 Let's say camping clothes. No, you can't buy 00:24:06.089 --> 00:24:10.670 like Q or Kiwi or whatever. Our tricks. You can't 00:24:10.670 --> 00:24:14.180 do a lot of REI clothing. You can't get like 00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:17.859 really good branded clothing because they don't 00:24:17.859 --> 00:24:22.000 make them your size. Mummy bags. Mummy bags are 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:24.019 like suffocating. Like you're going to burst 00:24:24.019 --> 00:24:29.380 those zippers being a bigger guy. Me, my chest 00:24:29.380 --> 00:24:32.579 is really wide from shoulder to shoulder. So 00:24:32.579 --> 00:24:36.039 my pads even, like my sleeping pads, my cots 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.099 that I've ever done, I'm hanging off the side 00:24:38.099 --> 00:24:41.750 of them anyway. uh the weight limits on chairs 00:24:41.750 --> 00:24:44.950 like it's things that you have to kind of take 00:24:44.950 --> 00:24:48.029 into consideration because i'm so wide i take 00:24:48.029 --> 00:24:52.450 up more space in a tent so like a two -person 00:24:52.450 --> 00:24:56.509 tent like our nemo dagger which i just sold um 00:24:56.509 --> 00:25:00.089 the i took up more space than that than my wife 00:25:00.089 --> 00:25:03.890 did and i don't know maybe if i you know i lost 00:25:03.890 --> 00:25:05.670 a few pounds i wouldn't have taken up as much 00:25:05.670 --> 00:25:07.369 space we might be able to use a little longer 00:25:07.369 --> 00:25:10.819 but It does kind of play into the availability. 00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.440 Shit, my clothes are bigger. Takes up more space 00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:21.220 in my luggage. So, I mean, it's just I need to 00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:23.099 eat more, which I don't need to eat more. But, 00:25:23.140 --> 00:25:26.079 like, so I pack more food, make sure everyone's 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.200 got enough. So, I don't know. It's just something 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:30.700 that I was thinking about, you know, while I 00:25:30.700 --> 00:25:33.319 was trying to figure out what I want to do for 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.950 a career. This kind of parallels with. with just 00:25:37.950 --> 00:25:41.509 the the i guess if you want to do off -roading 00:25:41.509 --> 00:25:44.849 and stuff it really helps to not have that extra 00:25:44.849 --> 00:25:48.589 weight on you i think baker's like nothing against 00:25:48.589 --> 00:25:50.930 baker we talked about i think in the last episode 00:25:50.930 --> 00:25:55.630 uh about him falling but i think he's realizing 00:25:55.630 --> 00:25:58.710 that too like it it is hard for a bigger guy 00:25:58.710 --> 00:26:01.470 in this space in the overlanding world and stuff 00:26:01.470 --> 00:26:04.670 you got to think about static loads on your roof 00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:09.789 like So most of these tiny dudes that are these 00:26:09.789 --> 00:26:12.250 small guys that are doing these channels, they 00:26:12.250 --> 00:26:15.289 probably don't even think about static and dynamic 00:26:15.289 --> 00:26:19.509 load on their rooftop tents or what the capacity 00:26:19.509 --> 00:26:24.269 is. But me being 320 now, knowing what my wife 00:26:24.269 --> 00:26:25.930 is and then knowing what my kid is, I got to 00:26:25.930 --> 00:26:30.769 measure that out. I look at rooftop tents and 00:26:30.769 --> 00:26:33.470 I'm like, that's a one -person tent. Like me 00:26:33.470 --> 00:26:35.490 and my wife. We're not going to fit in there 00:26:35.490 --> 00:26:38.009 together. Yeah. Like, no. Now, if I was smaller, 00:26:38.289 --> 00:26:40.109 I'd definitely be able to have more. I'd have 00:26:40.109 --> 00:26:42.769 more room. I'd have a couple more inches, which 00:26:42.769 --> 00:26:47.869 is what I seem to, like, want in a tent usually 00:26:47.869 --> 00:26:51.450 is, like, man, if I just had, like, three or 00:26:51.450 --> 00:26:54.670 four more inches of space on this tent, then 00:26:54.670 --> 00:26:59.250 I'd be good. And I just feel like it's time for 00:26:59.250 --> 00:27:02.160 a change where, like. Yeah, I can run, but short 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.019 distances. Like I want to be able to run around 00:27:04.019 --> 00:27:06.319 and play soccer with my kid and stuff and not 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.039 be like gassed out after 30 minutes. So all around 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:13.680 it needs to change. So I've been really focused 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.019 on that lately, trying to manage my portions 00:27:16.019 --> 00:27:21.579 and lose some weight and not only slim down myself, 00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:24.500 but like slim down my inventory of camp stuff. 00:27:24.619 --> 00:27:28.730 Like we talked a few episodes ago. about keeping 00:27:28.730 --> 00:27:31.670 all of our tents and stuff but you know after 00:27:31.670 --> 00:27:35.130 giving it some thought and it's like i need the 00:27:35.130 --> 00:27:38.170 money it's just sitting here i'm not gonna do 00:27:38.170 --> 00:27:40.109 anything with it i just spent a thousand dollars 00:27:40.109 --> 00:27:42.269 on this tent i'm gonna fucking use this tent 00:27:42.269 --> 00:27:45.630 whether we need it or not for whatever we're 00:27:45.630 --> 00:27:49.930 doing like so i'm like screw it i sold it for 00:27:49.930 --> 00:27:55.849 it retailed at like 500 i sold it for 250 the 00:27:55.849 --> 00:28:00.289 other day which is pretty good for a tent honestly 00:28:00.289 --> 00:28:02.829 and the amount of the amount of time you've spent 00:28:02.829 --> 00:28:04.750 yeah thing too and i was honest with her too 00:28:04.750 --> 00:28:06.829 like i was like i've spent i've had it for two 00:28:06.829 --> 00:28:10.950 years i said all in total i probably used it 00:28:10.950 --> 00:28:14.750 you know 20 times or so you don't think about 00:28:14.750 --> 00:28:16.509 it when you say 20 times it probably doesn't 00:28:16.509 --> 00:28:18.849 seem like a lot but like you're using it all 00:28:18.849 --> 00:28:22.549 weekend you know three times then you're using 00:28:22.549 --> 00:28:27.579 it for five days there um So for me, $250 was 00:28:27.579 --> 00:28:31.059 a fair value for that, and it was completely 00:28:31.059 --> 00:28:34.440 fine. There was no cuts, tears, nothing. I ended 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:36.700 up finding all the tent stakes and everything 00:28:36.700 --> 00:28:40.759 else, so she was pretty happy. So it made me 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:43.400 $250. I was able to take my wife out on a date, 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:47.599 and I was able to get some gas for our vehicles. 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.019 So it helped out. I can't say I'm going to—I 00:28:52.019 --> 00:28:53.420 mean, I'll miss it because it was a good tent, 00:28:53.539 --> 00:28:55.980 but I can't say that I'm— i'm gonna miss it that 00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:59.960 much like i mean i'm i'm gonna sell my light 00:28:59.960 --> 00:29:02.079 fighter for the same reason i love the damn thing 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.299 but you know i've got two different swags a single 00:29:05.299 --> 00:29:09.099 person and a two person and why why would i take 00:29:09.099 --> 00:29:12.059 the time to set up a light fighter when i could 00:29:12.059 --> 00:29:13.839 just roll out a swag and have the same amount 00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.839 of space yeah it's just it's just getting to 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:22.299 the point to where like theoretically I would 00:29:22.299 --> 00:29:24.400 love to have a collection room with all this 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:28.039 stuff, like in my office where I do the podcasting, 00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:32.259 and I'd love to have my back wall all gear. That 00:29:32.259 --> 00:29:34.960 would be so cool. But to be honest, a lot of 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.380 my gear isn't worth putting up on a wall either. 00:29:38.579 --> 00:29:43.680 Yeah. I could say 80 % of my gear is not worth 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.559 selling because it was all cheap Walmart shit 00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:52.720 that was $30 and under. So, you know, the stuff 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.519 that I started out with that I've kept because 00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.160 I'm like, well, maybe I'll need this cheap -ass 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:00.180 pan someday. No, I'm still sitting there after 00:30:00.180 --> 00:30:02.980 two years. So some of those things I'm just going 00:30:02.980 --> 00:30:07.359 to give away or throw away. Dude, it's worth 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.019 going through and slimming down. I've been doing 00:30:10.019 --> 00:30:13.019 quite a bit of organizing and sorting for the 00:30:13.019 --> 00:30:15.920 same reason because, I mean, we've bought so 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.549 much stuff, dude. a lot of it's just we're not 00:30:19.549 --> 00:30:22.349 going to touch it again um yeah and i don't see 00:30:22.349 --> 00:30:25.069 it as a as a waste of money either i think it's 00:30:25.069 --> 00:30:28.150 a learning sometimes i think you have to pay 00:30:28.150 --> 00:30:30.329 for things to learn and gain experience from 00:30:30.329 --> 00:30:35.150 them and you know you you have a lot more gear 00:30:35.150 --> 00:30:38.470 than either of us do but a lot of that comes 00:30:38.470 --> 00:30:41.269 down to like you you really like experimenting 00:30:41.269 --> 00:30:43.769 with gear so you're always ready to switch something 00:30:43.769 --> 00:30:48.319 up and we just We don't do that as much, and 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:50.579 we still have a boatload of gear, you know? Like, 00:30:50.579 --> 00:30:55.119 I have a spare... I have a spare shower that 00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:58.019 someone gave me. Battery -powered shower. I have 00:30:58.019 --> 00:31:02.900 a spare... Is that my old shower? No. No, you 00:31:02.900 --> 00:31:05.740 never got that to me. I have... It was given 00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:09.779 to me by Mike Winanski the last time we went 00:31:09.779 --> 00:31:11.420 out camping. That's still here somewhere. Yeah. 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:13.920 So it's like I have this... I have extra stuff 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.470 everywhere. And I've been thinking about how 00:31:17.470 --> 00:31:21.369 I really want to camp. Like, do I want to push 00:31:21.369 --> 00:31:23.230 myself to camp in the winter? I like camping 00:31:23.230 --> 00:31:24.789 in the winter, but do I love it? Not really. 00:31:25.690 --> 00:31:27.690 It's not, like, the most enjoyable experience 00:31:27.690 --> 00:31:29.769 for me, and I know it's not going to be an enjoyable 00:31:29.769 --> 00:31:33.309 experience for my family. So it's like I've been 00:31:33.309 --> 00:31:37.509 debating, like, well, am I even going to start 00:31:37.509 --> 00:31:39.690 camping in the winter? I still use my diesel 00:31:39.690 --> 00:31:41.490 heater and everything because it's good for cooler 00:31:41.490 --> 00:31:45.549 temps. It's just, like, planning things out. 00:31:45.670 --> 00:31:49.630 Like, what do I really want to do? Even if you 00:31:49.630 --> 00:31:52.089 only did one winter camping trip, like, it's 00:31:52.089 --> 00:31:54.670 really fun to do one winter camping trip. Yeah, 00:31:54.690 --> 00:31:57.250 I'd like to do Tukwamanon. Like I said, do State 00:31:57.250 --> 00:32:00.529 Park Tukwamanon. It's all plowed out, but it's 00:32:00.529 --> 00:32:02.789 up there by the falls. We could camp there and 00:32:02.789 --> 00:32:05.950 make a nice meal and go do the falls. Retard 00:32:05.950 --> 00:32:10.970 run 2027? Yeah, maybe. But I'd like to do that. 00:32:11.009 --> 00:32:14.930 It would be cool. But, yeah, no, I'm just slimming 00:32:14.930 --> 00:32:18.390 down and prioritizing, trying to figure out what 00:32:18.390 --> 00:32:20.849 the next steps are in life, you know, what I 00:32:20.849 --> 00:32:23.769 really want to do, what I really want to do for, 00:32:23.769 --> 00:32:27.910 like, travel. Like, not that Michigan's boring, 00:32:28.170 --> 00:32:31.509 but, like, and I'm tired of Michigan. I'm not. 00:32:31.630 --> 00:32:33.990 But I'd really like to start planning out bigger 00:32:33.990 --> 00:32:38.349 trips maybe out of Michigan, start branching 00:32:38.349 --> 00:32:41.799 out a little bit. Maybe that means not camping 00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.000 as much and saving some money here and there. 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.640 I mean, that's what we've been doing. We've been 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.359 doing the yard camping to get us through. And 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:55.099 we've got, what, a 10 - or 12 -day trip coming 00:32:55.099 --> 00:33:01.519 up? Yeah. It's just because even a weekend of 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.619 camping for my family with gas prices how they 00:33:05.619 --> 00:33:09.400 are, you're definitely looking at. two to three 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.859 hundred dollars with gas and groceries snacks 00:33:13.859 --> 00:33:18.759 diapers um you know food you're looking at like 00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.740 100 250 depending on how fancy you want to go 00:33:21.740 --> 00:33:25.299 because people like it fancy certain certain 00:33:25.299 --> 00:33:29.240 people in my family so yeah you're looking at 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.059 they you know they want different food every 00:33:31.059 --> 00:33:36.750 night and you know so yeah it racks up so you're 00:33:36.750 --> 00:33:40.250 spending that much to do a week in a camping 00:33:40.250 --> 00:33:44.230 and then after and it's base camping and after 00:33:44.230 --> 00:33:47.910 a day or so of base camping i'm pretty bored 00:33:47.910 --> 00:33:50.829 like come like saturday afternoon i'm like i 00:33:50.829 --> 00:33:53.329 want to go do something i don't want to sit around 00:33:53.329 --> 00:33:56.710 a camp all day so i'm good with base camping 00:33:56.710 --> 00:34:00.380 if we're wheeling too right like if i Set up 00:34:00.380 --> 00:34:02.619 camp, but then I spend nine hours out on the 00:34:02.619 --> 00:34:04.819 trail playing. I'm fine with being at the same 00:34:04.819 --> 00:34:07.000 campsite. As long as you're doing something. 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.519 I've done a couple of, like, I love kids' camps 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.039 trips. They're such a great opportunity for kids 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:14.960 to go out and play with each other and stuff. 00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:18.059 But shit, dude, you know, you do, like, a four 00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:22.260 -day trip, and come, like, Saturday after the 00:34:22.260 --> 00:34:23.559 kids have played, you're, like, you're bored 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.719 out of your mind. Kids are playing around. They're 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:27.639 having fun, and you're just kind of like, hmm. 00:34:28.619 --> 00:34:31.239 like i just feel restless like i want to go do 00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.079 some trails or i want to go explore some shops 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.880 because i do i like doing tourist shit too i 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.579 like going to old shops and gift shops and stuff 00:34:40.579 --> 00:34:43.360 and checking that stuff out looking at the museums 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.000 like in uh there's a logging museum up in the 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.420 up that's pretty cool the native american heritage 00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:53.780 museum up there so i like going to that stuff 00:34:53.780 --> 00:34:56.960 but i can't just sit and camp anymore and just 00:34:57.500 --> 00:34:59.840 sit there all day and do nothing feel like a 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:04.539 veg i could do that at home you know sit there 00:35:04.539 --> 00:35:10.079 and do nothing yeah it'd be fun to plan like 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:14.320 a museum uh weekend right where we maybe we don't 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.780 do as much maybe we hit service roads and like 00:35:17.780 --> 00:35:21.539 some some dirt roads but we link together like 00:35:21.539 --> 00:35:27.320 four or five just obscure ish museums yeah That'd 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.300 be fun as hell, dude. Yeah, it'd be cool to do 00:35:29.300 --> 00:35:34.480 a haunted version of that, too. Haunted places 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.039 or haunted areas, ghost town, something like 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.519 that. I don't know if you've ever been to our 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.219 Nuevo County Museum, but that's a really nice 00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.300 place. I haven't been there since they remodeled 00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:48.400 it. I haven't been there since they remodeled 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:50.420 it. It was nice when they had it in the old building 00:35:50.420 --> 00:35:54.980 down by the river. Down by the river. Yeah. Well, 00:35:54.980 --> 00:35:59.320 I think we're ready to wrap. Yeah, I think that's 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:01.079 the end of it. All right, guys. We'll talk to 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.219 you later. Catch you guys later. Later.