WEBVTT 00:00:15.260 --> 00:00:19.100 Welcome to Botch's Off -Road Podcast. Today's 00:00:19.100 --> 00:00:22.039 a special day. We got the podcast connoisseur. 00:00:22.140 --> 00:00:25.039 Wait, can we really call you a podcaster anymore? 00:00:25.179 --> 00:00:30.320 Because I saw you're taking a break. I will return, 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:34.100 but yeah. Go ahead. Keep coming with the good 00:00:34.100 --> 00:00:39.159 intro. We got the podcaster. We got the shop 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:43.539 owner. We got the original, the OG Benji Ward. 00:00:45.500 --> 00:00:48.500 The one and only I'm aware of. I don't think 00:00:48.500 --> 00:00:51.939 I, I don't know a lot of, I know a few Benji's. 00:00:51.939 --> 00:00:55.280 You're the only white Benji I know. You know 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:58.939 what? I, I've been noticing younger Benji's out 00:00:58.939 --> 00:01:01.979 there and, and not my son, but I'm just saying 00:01:01.979 --> 00:01:04.400 in general, there's like kids going by Benji 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:06.680 now at school, like six year olds. And I'm like, 00:01:06.700 --> 00:01:11.019 that's Brad. Yeah. creepy old guy with the weird 00:01:11.019 --> 00:01:13.680 stash is saying mom that guy says my name's cool 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:18.700 it's unique little do they know it's because 00:01:18.700 --> 00:01:21.620 you're that's not creepy at all that's not creepy 00:01:21.620 --> 00:01:25.200 at all as long as what's wrong with our uh our 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.920 society man as long as you're not trying to coax 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:31.799 him into your white van no this is just a nice 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:37.340 dude giving a kid our future a compliment And 00:01:37.340 --> 00:01:39.920 then our society turns that into some creepy 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:43.879 dude. Yeah. Yeah, this is going to be a fun episode, 00:01:43.980 --> 00:01:46.680 guys. Dude, that's where we're at, though. Yeah, 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.120 we'll just get right into it. You can't even 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.099 compliment someone at the store anymore. Yesterday, 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:56.540 we went through a car wash. Okay, to be fair, 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:59.159 we're in Muskegon Heights. Benji, if you don't 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:00.760 know what Muskegon Heights is, it's like the 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:06.099 most ghetto place in Michigan. Yeah. Don't come 00:02:06.099 --> 00:02:09.840 to a complete stop in that town. I did. But I 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:12.719 stopped at the car wash right there because it 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:16.800 was on the way home. And there was a guy out 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:20.159 there washing. He had the weirdest color charger 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.379 I've ever seen. But, I mean, it was sick, right? 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:24.840 And I'm like, hey, dude, nice car. Like, that's 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.240 a beautiful color. And he just, like, gave me 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:29.680 a dirty look. And I'm like, I guess it's not 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:35.500 okay to give compliments anymore. No. He's an 00:02:35.500 --> 00:02:38.479 unfortunate man. Crazy. Of course, he probably 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:40.180 thought I was trying to lynch him or something. 00:02:44.259 --> 00:02:47.280 White guy pulls up in a big lifted Ford, starts 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:52.219 talking to a little old black guy. Not sus. Yeah, 00:02:52.219 --> 00:02:56.180 that's kind of sus. It shouldn't be sus. I know, 00:02:56.180 --> 00:02:58.439 it shouldn't. Like, when I was a kid, that wasn't 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:05.830 sus. Why does it have to be now? Yeah. The world's 00:03:05.830 --> 00:03:11.830 gone crazy. That's all there is to it. Yup. So, 00:03:11.889 --> 00:03:16.490 uh, get into some off roadie stuff. Benji, you've 00:03:16.490 --> 00:03:20.169 been doing a lot of fricking trips lately. Yeah, 00:03:20.289 --> 00:03:22.030 man. I was thinking about that the other day. 00:03:22.330 --> 00:03:24.810 Um, it seemed like last year I was unable to 00:03:24.810 --> 00:03:26.770 do a lot of trips very far because my torque 00:03:26.770 --> 00:03:29.330 converter wasn't torquing. Right. My transmission 00:03:29.330 --> 00:03:31.530 would only allow me like a hundred miles before 00:03:31.530 --> 00:03:35.990 it got super hot. And, um, so anyway, yeah didn't 00:03:35.990 --> 00:03:38.129 do a lot of camping other than like maybe a one 00:03:38.129 --> 00:03:40.250 -nighter or a two -nighter down there in the 00:03:40.250 --> 00:03:43.409 mark twain but uh yeah just swapped the transmission 00:03:43.409 --> 00:03:46.710 back in april went down to the toyota jamboree 00:03:46.710 --> 00:03:50.150 and that was about 4 000 miles ago so i've been 00:03:50.150 --> 00:03:53.849 gosh six times to arkansas man this year it's 00:03:53.849 --> 00:03:59.550 crazy it's crazy sometimes back to back but yeah 00:03:59.550 --> 00:04:01.770 definitely been able to do that and it's been 00:04:01.770 --> 00:04:05.750 fun Yeah, I can't wait till November when we 00:04:05.750 --> 00:04:08.469 get down there for a whole week to do Arkansas 00:04:08.469 --> 00:04:11.289 stuff. I can't wait either. That's going to be 00:04:11.289 --> 00:04:15.949 fun. That's our only planned trip so far this 00:04:15.949 --> 00:04:18.310 year. Yeah. And we haven't done any. I know. 00:04:18.470 --> 00:04:24.569 We haven't done zero. Why is that? Your rig's 00:04:24.569 --> 00:04:27.670 been down. Yeah. Or a rig. My rig. Yeah, that's 00:04:27.670 --> 00:04:29.870 been part of it. Mine was down for like a month. 00:04:30.050 --> 00:04:33.569 Money's caught. yeah his was down for a month 00:04:33.569 --> 00:04:36.810 money's been kind of tight not even like because 00:04:36.810 --> 00:04:39.810 anything's expensive or anything just for whatever 00:04:39.810 --> 00:04:41.889 well probably because i just bought a truck that 00:04:41.889 --> 00:04:46.089 cost me 400 some dollars a month that's probably 00:04:46.089 --> 00:04:49.750 why my money's a lot tighter now where'd that 00:04:49.750 --> 00:04:54.110 money go yeah it's all right you can't take it 00:04:54.110 --> 00:04:58.430 with you when you go no but Yeah, no, that's 00:04:58.430 --> 00:05:00.509 really all it is. It's just been money's been 00:05:00.509 --> 00:05:06.470 tight and everything's been broken. So, but yeah, 00:05:06.750 --> 00:05:09.509 we got that trip planned. We've got a plan third 00:05:09.509 --> 00:05:11.350 gen weekend. I think we're going to do it in 00:05:11.350 --> 00:05:14.170 September. Yeah. Just a matter of figuring out 00:05:14.170 --> 00:05:19.250 what day in September, but that's okay. If all 00:05:19.250 --> 00:05:21.290 we do is save up our money and just spend it 00:05:21.290 --> 00:05:23.430 all while we're down there around your area, 00:05:23.569 --> 00:05:32.180 we'll be okay with it. Yep. So, what else have 00:05:32.180 --> 00:05:33.579 you been up to? I see you've been building a 00:05:33.579 --> 00:05:36.459 bunch of vintage Toyotas lately. That's been 00:05:36.459 --> 00:05:39.259 sick. Yeah, so I'll update everybody on the shop. 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:42.920 So, as you guys know, back when I started, I 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.199 think it was November of 24, like the first four 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.480 or five months was like nothing but kind of pitching 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.779 my vision to everybody and then like, you know, 00:05:51.779 --> 00:05:54.079 I had a retail store and we kind of offered some 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.100 install stuff. Um, and then Patrick reached out 00:05:57.100 --> 00:05:58.860 and then obviously like, you know, a year later 00:05:58.860 --> 00:06:01.759 from that, we're doing more repair stuff, more 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.560 like unique stuff, but like, we really liked 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.680 the vintage Toyotas and that's really in Patrick's 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:09.459 wheelhouse. So we started to buy some to flip 00:06:09.459 --> 00:06:12.220 and the thing, we're not taking them all the 00:06:12.220 --> 00:06:13.879 way. We're just getting them kind of mechanically 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:17.899 sound. So it kind of fits, uh, more attainable 00:06:17.899 --> 00:06:20.879 budget, if you will, versus like everyone finds 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.639 those land cruisers or the first ship pickups 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.100 and stuff. or even the first year in forerunners 00:06:26.100 --> 00:06:28.579 and they're either like super clapped out need 00:06:28.579 --> 00:06:31.459 work and then you skip a big jump and now you're 00:06:31.459 --> 00:06:34.019 in like full -blown big dollar retail like stuff 00:06:34.019 --> 00:06:35.759 so we're wanting to try to find that lower middle 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:39.000 ground uh to where you know a lot of people with 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:41.220 diy stuff you know people are starting to paint 00:06:41.220 --> 00:06:43.680 their own cars and get a little outside of their 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.579 comfort zones thanks to youtube but we're trying 00:06:46.579 --> 00:06:48.860 to just get into that niche plus specialty wise 00:06:48.860 --> 00:06:51.000 if people do have vintage toyotas they can bring 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.319 them down to us anything really toyota related 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:55.879 and um i mean we've worked on our fair share 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.759 of chrysler so anything we do down there but 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:00.920 like our wheelhouse is kind of leaning more towards 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:04.139 the vintage toyota plus we just relaunched our 00:07:04.139 --> 00:07:05.939 website so we've got a lot of stuff on there 00:07:05.939 --> 00:07:08.980 that's kind of overlandy So, yeah, we're going 00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:10.680 to be offering some cool stuff on there, too. 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.300 So, yeah, a lot of stuff has been going on. Yeah, 00:07:14.379 --> 00:07:17.160 you've worked on AMC stuff, too, because you 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.000 worked on that J truck, right? Yeah, there was 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:24.439 a J10, and he came in to put a rear manual locker 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.160 in. So that was really fun to do. Now me and 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.480 Patrick both want manual lockers because it's 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:32.579 a cable. And it's just, you know, on Toyotas, 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.439 it's a little difficult to do. But, you know, 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.970 we'll be able to figure it out. That was pretty 00:07:37.970 --> 00:07:41.470 fun on that J10. I think it was a J10. It might 00:07:41.470 --> 00:07:44.129 have been a 20. I don't know if it's like a half 00:07:44.129 --> 00:07:46.709 ton of light duty. No, I think his was a J. The 00:07:46.709 --> 00:07:48.550 dude drove it all the way down from Alaska. Yeah, 00:07:48.569 --> 00:07:51.350 I'm pretty sure that one's a J20. I talked to 00:07:51.350 --> 00:07:55.370 the guy when I was down there. Yeah, I know. 00:07:56.110 --> 00:07:58.670 Do you know which locker you put in there? Do 00:07:58.670 --> 00:08:02.129 you remember? It was an Ox locker. Yeah, okay. 00:08:02.509 --> 00:08:05.990 So I had Ox lockers front and rear on my J4000. 00:08:07.269 --> 00:08:10.370 Absolutely loved them. They always worked, except 00:08:10.370 --> 00:08:12.430 for when the front one got full of crap and then 00:08:12.430 --> 00:08:15.329 it wouldn't want to actuate anymore. But, you 00:08:15.329 --> 00:08:17.230 know, that's what happens when you don't care. 00:08:17.410 --> 00:08:23.089 Diffs and they just kind of grenade inside. Yeah, 00:08:23.829 --> 00:08:26.050 dude. No, that thing's sick because he had he 00:08:26.050 --> 00:08:29.449 had a tap like a bed rack with a tent on it, 00:08:29.490 --> 00:08:33.450 too, doesn't he? Yep. Yep. He had a I don't know 00:08:33.450 --> 00:08:35.210 if I don't think it was a customer. I think it 00:08:35.210 --> 00:08:37.500 was from a company. But he made it work for his 00:08:37.500 --> 00:08:40.039 vehicle, and they had a soft top on there. And 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:43.159 what was the other thing? Oh, remember that little 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.320 84, 83 Nissan we had, that golden one? Oh, yeah. 00:08:46.419 --> 00:08:49.600 Yeah. So this dude bought it from us, rebuilt 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.799 the transmission, and some other stuff, and he's 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.720 driving it now, too. So he's got the J20 and 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.700 then the little 83 Nissan. No, that guy's cool. 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.080 I really, I have a soft spot for those full -size 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.860 Jeep pickups. So, like, every time I see one, 00:09:03.940 --> 00:09:06.700 it's just like I start drooling, man. I never 00:09:06.700 --> 00:09:08.399 should have sold mine. That thing was perfect. 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.220 You're pretty cool. But yeah, dude, it's been 00:09:13.220 --> 00:09:16.100 cool. I, I wish that I lived closer so I could 00:09:16.100 --> 00:09:18.620 just come, you know, hang out and work on some 00:09:18.620 --> 00:09:21.759 old Toyota stuff or old. Anything got a lot of 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:24.720 everything old up here. So rotted out. You can't 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.519 really work on it anymore. Yeah, no. Yeah. That's 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:32.580 what I've been told. I did. recently we bought 00:09:32.580 --> 00:09:38.000 a 97 F three 50 dually. Uh, and it was the only 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:42.019 not Roddy one we could find. I mean, it was hard 00:09:42.019 --> 00:09:44.019 to, we drove all the way to Detroit for it. Yeah. 00:09:44.500 --> 00:09:49.919 Three hours there, three hours back. Oh, but 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:53.940 you know, we'll get past it. At some point our 00:09:53.940 --> 00:09:56.100 government will realize salt isn't the answer 00:09:56.100 --> 00:09:58.539 and we'll come up with something better. Yep. 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:02.120 That's when the flying cars will come back around. 00:10:02.379 --> 00:10:04.960 Right, right, right. Or they'll start doing the... 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:08.539 I don't know if you saw the... I think it was 00:10:08.539 --> 00:10:12.220 the FCC just approved a mirror in space to reflect 00:10:12.220 --> 00:10:18.100 light down onto Earth. Uh -uh. Yeah. So they're 00:10:18.100 --> 00:10:20.620 going to put a big mirror in space and then use 00:10:20.620 --> 00:10:24.399 it to light up cities and stuff, just kind of 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:30.110 point it at them. Interesting. So I'm... I'm 00:10:30.110 --> 00:10:32.009 hoping that it doesn't end up like the mirror 00:10:32.009 --> 00:10:34.490 in Futurama that Wernstrom put in space that 00:10:34.490 --> 00:10:37.509 just kind of tipped over and then burnt a big 00:10:37.509 --> 00:10:44.210 swatch of land on Earth, but we'll see. I'm sure 00:10:44.210 --> 00:10:47.590 they're smarter than a cartoon, right? I think 00:10:47.590 --> 00:10:49.309 that's where they get all their ideas. I would 00:10:49.309 --> 00:10:51.570 assume it was from watching that and they just 00:10:51.570 --> 00:10:53.490 decided to put a patent on it and just mess with 00:10:53.490 --> 00:11:01.240 everyone. Yeah. It's just crazy, man. You guys 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:03.480 had any of those big old data centers to be put 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:07.600 in around you? Honestly, I don't know where the 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:09.460 nearest one is, but, yeah, they are building 00:11:09.460 --> 00:11:13.039 them. But there was one that tried to go in in 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.759 a town probably, I don't know, 70 miles away 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.580 from here, 60, 70 miles away, and they kind of 00:11:18.580 --> 00:11:21.580 were moving forward unbeknownst to the community, 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:23.899 and I think the community got that shut down. 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:30.190 Good. So that's one. I'm not opposed to data 00:11:30.190 --> 00:11:32.289 centers. I'm opposed to the mass surveillance 00:11:32.289 --> 00:11:36.149 that comes with AI data centers. Yeah, I don't 00:11:36.149 --> 00:11:39.490 like the whole flock movement. No. Yeah, we just 00:11:39.490 --> 00:11:42.970 got to keep cutting them down. A lot of people 00:11:42.970 --> 00:11:48.470 are. Not to tell you what to do, but there's 00:11:48.470 --> 00:11:53.830 high -powered lasers all over Amazon. You just 00:11:53.830 --> 00:11:55.850 got to be real sneaky with how you point them. 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.940 Yeah, we've we've got a pretty big flock problem 00:12:00.940 --> 00:12:04.000 up here. There was actually a report that just 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:08.360 went out last week that the Muskegon, the flock 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.320 cameras around Muskegon area, the state police 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:15.039 use it 73 times in the last four months to look 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.139 for things that were not related to crime or 00:12:17.139 --> 00:12:21.419 not crime related. And they only used it 50 times 00:12:21.419 --> 00:12:25.419 for crime related things. Yeah, I don't like 00:12:25.419 --> 00:12:30.559 that. No. Yeah, it's. I don't have an issue with 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:32.940 the cameras that read license plates, you know, 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:35.539 whatever I do, but like, whatever, that's one 00:12:35.539 --> 00:12:38.820 thing. But if I just have to type in a FedEx 00:12:38.820 --> 00:12:41.200 truck with a zebra or something and it pulls 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.940 up, but they can find the truck wherever it's 00:12:43.940 --> 00:12:46.639 been. Now we're getting into the scary stuff. 00:12:47.580 --> 00:12:52.820 Yep. Not to put a downer on the episode. That's 00:12:52.820 --> 00:12:58.559 just where we're at. Yeah, we've. We fought a 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.139 few of them. There was one that is going to, 00:13:01.139 --> 00:13:04.039 they're supposed to go in down by where Mark 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:05.879 lives. And them guys are fighting that hard. 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:10.919 Yeah. That one there in Cedar. Yep. And then 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:14.100 up here by us, there's a little town of like 00:13:14.100 --> 00:13:17.460 300 people called Casanova. And they're trying 00:13:17.460 --> 00:13:22.100 hard to put one in there. But us as a county, 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.549 we're fighting it. I don't think it'll go through. 00:13:24.690 --> 00:13:31.470 I think I saw one. What was that? Is that majority 00:13:31.470 --> 00:13:37.870 of the population are anti that? Except for the 00:13:37.870 --> 00:13:41.889 guys who are diehard Trump supporters. Really? 00:13:42.470 --> 00:13:47.210 Yeah. So Trump, I don't want to say nothing bad 00:13:47.210 --> 00:13:49.110 about him because he has done a lot of good for 00:13:49.110 --> 00:13:56.690 us. He's really been toting a lot of this, like, 00:13:57.029 --> 00:14:03.169 pro -AI, pro -data center stuff. And a lot of 00:14:03.169 --> 00:14:06.350 the diehard magas aren't researching what a data 00:14:06.350 --> 00:14:08.870 center actually does, and they're just, you know, 00:14:08.889 --> 00:14:15.649 blindly backing it. Yeah. You know, it's just... 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:18.759 on both sides of the aisles you've got the left 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.820 who are just against them because trump wants 00:14:20.820 --> 00:14:23.019 them and then you've got the right that's wants 00:14:23.019 --> 00:14:25.460 them just because trump wants them and i'm like 00:14:25.460 --> 00:14:27.740 guys do your research and realize that we don't 00:14:27.740 --> 00:14:30.259 want them because they're anti -liberty you know 00:14:30.259 --> 00:14:37.419 yeah yeah i don't like big brother and i don't 00:14:37.419 --> 00:14:41.799 like big police states and stuff like no i i've 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:43.980 lived in a handful of big police states and i 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:47.289 don't want to do that ever again south korea 00:14:47.289 --> 00:14:50.009 man every everywhere you look there's a camera 00:14:50.009 --> 00:14:54.210 watching you and they got everything you've ever 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:57.929 done is right there on camera then arizona not 00:14:57.929 --> 00:15:00.429 so much the cameras but every car could be a 00:15:00.429 --> 00:15:02.990 cop because they've got more cops than anyone 00:15:02.990 --> 00:15:07.549 else and they're unmarked all of them that's 00:15:07.549 --> 00:15:13.809 just scary stuff I don't like pulling up next 00:15:13.809 --> 00:15:16.990 to a white F -250, pulling goats and chickens 00:15:16.990 --> 00:15:24.990 and finding out it's a cop. I don't know, man. 00:15:25.110 --> 00:15:28.250 It's been an interesting year, really, just in 00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:32.309 general. I've seen a lot of people slowly getting 00:15:32.309 --> 00:15:34.509 out of the off -road space. A lot of people I 00:15:34.509 --> 00:15:36.929 thought would stay in it for a long time, and 00:15:36.929 --> 00:15:39.289 they're just offloading all their stuff or just 00:15:39.289 --> 00:15:41.169 going to the... you know kind of getting quiet 00:15:41.169 --> 00:15:44.909 to themselves i've noticed that within like a 00:15:44.909 --> 00:15:47.389 three year you know somebody gets in it two years 00:15:47.389 --> 00:15:51.970 you know okay three to five years you're getting 00:15:51.970 --> 00:15:54.409 out and then i think past five years you're sticking 00:15:54.409 --> 00:15:57.950 in unless life gets busy which it will and your 00:15:57.950 --> 00:16:00.870 priorities in that time amount will change but 00:16:00.870 --> 00:16:05.269 outside of that i think people are they just 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.360 they can't handle it really. Cause it's like, 00:16:08.379 --> 00:16:10.220 it takes a special person to be able to sleep 00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:12.059 out in the woods, be able to go down private 00:16:12.059 --> 00:16:14.240 roads. And I think a lot of people that have 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.200 issues with that are the ones that need society 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.500 and attachment and that kind of stuff. Yep. I 00:16:19.500 --> 00:16:21.639 think that's it. It's, it's the mental aspect 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:23.659 that comes with it. And that's why I like it. 00:16:23.700 --> 00:16:26.440 Cause it takes me away from where we're at in 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.480 society and propels me back into reality. And 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.259 so that's why I still refuse to get a starling. 00:16:33.659 --> 00:16:37.659 I'll get one. I think they're handy. Especially, 00:16:37.659 --> 00:16:40.840 you know, the Baker incident. Yeah. And, like, 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.019 he didn't have Starling hooked up for that. But 00:16:43.019 --> 00:16:45.320 it's like, if we needed to, we could access it. 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:49.779 But it was just goofy. And if you're out in the 00:16:49.779 --> 00:16:52.220 middle of nowhere and stuff does happen, like, 00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:56.320 people are crazy. Or landslides happen. That 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.100 Baker incident, that was freaking scary, dude. 00:17:00.139 --> 00:17:02.480 Yeah, it was pretty wild. I'm so glad I didn't 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:08.710 have to live through that. but yeah he's i'm 00:17:08.710 --> 00:17:13.009 glad he's okay um he's definitely been putting 00:17:13.009 --> 00:17:18.769 out some good content and a lot of uh caution 00:17:18.769 --> 00:17:22.210 like cautionary stuff now yeah or like he's you 00:17:22.210 --> 00:17:24.349 know using his experience to try and better the 00:17:24.349 --> 00:17:29.930 community yeah so it's pretty cool see that guys 00:17:29.930 --> 00:17:31.950 just continue to put stuff out after something 00:17:31.950 --> 00:17:35.059 scary like that happens Yeah, and especially 00:17:35.059 --> 00:17:37.140 after that weekend, I think that's the time they 00:17:37.140 --> 00:17:40.420 went out to New Mexico to start shooting all 00:17:40.420 --> 00:17:43.039 the alien stuff. It was like the next weekend. 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.539 No, the next weekend he had a Patreon or a member 00:17:46.539 --> 00:17:49.319 saying it was the weekend after that. Yeah, no, 00:17:49.460 --> 00:17:53.839 he just, like, no, almost no stop. He just kept 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:55.640 going. Like, that's a guy who's going to stick 00:17:55.640 --> 00:18:00.339 into it. Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Yeah, he's pretty 00:18:00.339 --> 00:18:06.940 traumatic. Yeah. no beggar's a cool cat um yeah 00:18:06.940 --> 00:18:09.240 dude have you done anything to your forerunner 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:14.099 other than fix it i actually did well some small 00:18:14.099 --> 00:18:16.079 things but like to me they're kind of big things 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:18.920 because i always put them off so i did it and 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:20.660 this isn't even worth bragging about but like 00:18:20.660 --> 00:18:22.019 you know the little cigarette lighter you can 00:18:22.019 --> 00:18:25.200 take out and you put the 12 volt uh usb charger 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.579 in there plus it shows the voltage up yeah yeah 00:18:27.579 --> 00:18:30.890 so i did that thing that i bought years ago That 00:18:30.890 --> 00:18:34.349 I just finally did. And then it wasn't that long. 00:18:34.390 --> 00:18:36.769 It was like four years ago. That's such a little 00:18:36.769 --> 00:18:39.890 thing, but it's such a big quality of life. Oh, 00:18:39.890 --> 00:18:43.230 it is. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, dude, I could charge 00:18:43.230 --> 00:18:46.210 freaking my lights, my camera, my headlight, 00:18:46.349 --> 00:18:48.049 like all these things as I'm driving down the 00:18:48.049 --> 00:18:50.029 road versus setting them out like the night before. 00:18:50.250 --> 00:18:51.829 Because I don't leave things topped off because 00:18:51.829 --> 00:18:54.809 it will deplete. Right, right. For the most part, 00:18:54.869 --> 00:18:58.109 I like to get a fresh charge on stuff. And then 00:18:58.109 --> 00:19:00.829 I installed the wolf box kind of thing. You got 00:19:00.829 --> 00:19:02.750 the two cameras in the front, so I'll be cheating 00:19:02.750 --> 00:19:05.910 on some of these obstacles, hopefully. I'm not 00:19:05.910 --> 00:19:08.210 super impressed with the quality, but I'm not 00:19:08.210 --> 00:19:11.269 messed with the pixel settings either. So when 00:19:11.269 --> 00:19:14.890 you installed your wolf box, did you just put 00:19:14.890 --> 00:19:17.009 it over your old mirror, or did you use one of 00:19:17.009 --> 00:19:20.670 the fancy mounts? I've got the fancy hard mount, 00:19:20.809 --> 00:19:26.529 but... I want to be able to know that I like 00:19:26.529 --> 00:19:28.230 it first before removing it because I've got 00:19:28.230 --> 00:19:30.829 such a small view or vantage point in my cab 00:19:30.829 --> 00:19:35.289 because I'm so tall. And this camera mount or 00:19:35.289 --> 00:19:38.829 whatever, it's super big. And I like it for that 00:19:38.829 --> 00:19:41.250 sense, but I can't see what's going around in 00:19:41.250 --> 00:19:44.190 the back seat. They should have left a little 00:19:44.190 --> 00:19:46.769 section or I might get a little piece of glass 00:19:46.769 --> 00:19:49.690 mirror, like a small piece and put it on there 00:19:49.690 --> 00:19:51.450 so I can at least see in the cab and see if stuff's 00:19:51.450 --> 00:19:55.460 flying around. driving through the rain the other 00:19:55.460 --> 00:19:58.259 day like my the rain got all around the light 00:19:58.259 --> 00:20:01.660 or the camera so it wasn't like picking up anything 00:20:01.660 --> 00:20:03.900 behind me i was just like there's more cons to 00:20:03.900 --> 00:20:07.440 this thing than pro but yeah i'm still in the 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.859 early stages before i get my full report i had 00:20:10.859 --> 00:20:15.099 uh what the eight four something or other which 00:20:15.099 --> 00:20:19.900 wolf box did i give you 840 of the 900 it wasn't 00:20:19.900 --> 00:20:24.880 the pro it's not a 900 yeah it's not a 900 because 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.440 the 900 wasn't out yet when i bought it but i 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:31.539 had a i had an 840 and it was okay i actually 00:20:31.539 --> 00:20:34.680 mounted my camera inside uh my rear camera because 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:37.700 that one only has one well two the the camera 00:20:37.700 --> 00:20:40.380 on the mirror and then the one on the back and 00:20:40.380 --> 00:20:43.299 i mounted it inside uh and i always had to open 00:20:43.299 --> 00:20:46.420 my rear uh window just that much so that it could 00:20:46.420 --> 00:20:51.089 see out um And it was really good. The problem 00:20:51.089 --> 00:20:53.289 I had is when I pulled my visors down, it was 00:20:53.289 --> 00:20:58.009 in the way. I'm not ran into that yet, but I'm 00:20:58.009 --> 00:21:01.490 pretty sure I'll run into the same problem. So 00:21:01.490 --> 00:21:04.369 I just kind of gave it to Mark because he's got 00:21:04.369 --> 00:21:07.329 a bigger cab and has room for it. But now that 00:21:07.329 --> 00:21:10.410 Snail Trail is doing the group buy for the 900 00:21:10.410 --> 00:21:14.150 Pro, we have three of them ordered. Or we've 00:21:14.150 --> 00:21:19.329 said we want three of them. Nice. But I think 00:21:19.329 --> 00:21:21.609 that I'm going to put mine in my Ford, not in 00:21:21.609 --> 00:21:24.769 my 4Runner. Just because that cab's so freaking 00:21:24.769 --> 00:21:29.390 small, dude. Yeah. Like, it'd be nice coming 00:21:29.390 --> 00:21:31.630 up over a hill to be able to just cheat and look 00:21:31.630 --> 00:21:35.589 at that lower camera. But not if I can't see 00:21:35.589 --> 00:21:38.990 around the mirror, you know? Yeah. It's pretty 00:21:38.990 --> 00:21:41.230 sketchy. And that's right. Like, my head's so 00:21:41.230 --> 00:21:43.170 dang tall in that thing. I've probably got two 00:21:43.170 --> 00:21:45.910 inches of head space. And it's just like, imagine 00:21:45.910 --> 00:21:48.089 where your eyes would be at that. It's just like. 00:21:48.410 --> 00:21:50.509 and it's annoying it's annoying with a regular 00:21:50.509 --> 00:21:55.369 uh rearview mirror so dude when i uh when i come 00:21:55.369 --> 00:21:57.410 down there i want you to try and drive my ford 00:21:57.410 --> 00:21:59.910 because i want to see it's got this like really 00:21:59.910 --> 00:22:03.970 long uh sun visor like tint strip and i want 00:22:03.970 --> 00:22:06.109 to see if you have to look through the tint strip 00:22:06.109 --> 00:22:08.990 to drive it oh i will i will if it's below the 00:22:08.990 --> 00:22:11.569 uh is it like eight inches or below the four 00:22:11.569 --> 00:22:13.630 inch mark or whatever that is dude i don't even 00:22:13.630 --> 00:22:18.670 know it's it's massive yeah Yeah, I've gotten 00:22:18.670 --> 00:22:22.730 to trucks like that. It's funny. I keep saying 00:22:22.730 --> 00:22:24.809 I'm going to take it off, but then it's really 00:22:24.809 --> 00:22:29.269 nice when the sun's out. That's funny. If it 00:22:29.269 --> 00:22:31.890 works, man, it works. I just have to duck under 00:22:31.890 --> 00:22:36.609 it to see when I'm driving at night. See, my 00:22:36.609 --> 00:22:38.890 front windshield on my 4Runner is tinted. All 00:22:38.890 --> 00:22:43.690 of it. So driving at night sucks. Yeah, I don't. 00:22:43.690 --> 00:22:47.660 I've only got the factory tint on the rear. Would 00:22:47.660 --> 00:22:54.079 that be five windows on mine? And it's I do wish 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:56.539 the front driver and passenger window were tinted, 00:22:56.539 --> 00:22:58.859 but that's just so that it matched. I would never 00:22:58.859 --> 00:23:02.539 tint the windshield on that one. Yeah, that's 00:23:02.539 --> 00:23:04.259 a commitment. That's almost something I did back, 00:23:04.299 --> 00:23:06.740 you know, back in the day to be cool. Everybody's 00:23:06.740 --> 00:23:10.079 putting those on the trucks. The eyebrows. Yeah. 00:23:11.380 --> 00:23:16.210 Yeah. I know. Mark's brother just got a new windshield 00:23:16.210 --> 00:23:18.809 put on his third gen and he got a bronze tinted 00:23:18.809 --> 00:23:23.650 one. And it looks sick. I'm probably in it. When 00:23:23.650 --> 00:23:26.549 I do mine, I'll end up doing that. I don't know. 00:23:27.089 --> 00:23:31.069 That sounds cool. Like it's just the most subtle 00:23:31.069 --> 00:23:33.269 tint, but it's just enough that it's like, man, 00:23:33.390 --> 00:23:35.809 that is not a standard colored window. Yeah. 00:23:37.309 --> 00:23:46.230 Yeah, we. I wish I had a whole list of questions. 00:23:47.450 --> 00:23:51.869 And no, you're not our last choice, Benji. You're 00:23:51.869 --> 00:23:54.210 our second choice. I didn't say that. You said 00:23:54.210 --> 00:23:59.369 it. Yeah, because we were going to have Jacob 00:23:59.369 --> 00:24:01.869 on today, which would be sick, but he went and 00:24:01.869 --> 00:24:07.150 had to go get himself a new house. Yeah. Pretty 00:24:07.150 --> 00:24:09.029 happy for him. It looks like it's going to be 00:24:09.029 --> 00:24:12.869 a good setup for him. Or not Patrick. I was going 00:24:12.869 --> 00:24:16.880 to say. jacob is a go -getter for sure yes that 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:21.960 dude works his butt off he's pretty dang smart 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.819 it's been kind of fun watching him get into third 00:24:25.819 --> 00:24:29.160 gens as hard as he has been oh and he's got he's 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:33.480 got nice ones now yeah he does nice ones yeah 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.480 that one that he just bought for uh savannah 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:40.220 that thing is beautiful yeah And the cool thing 00:24:40.220 --> 00:24:43.059 is they'll still hold their value. That's the 00:24:43.059 --> 00:24:45.539 new first -gen 4Runner to some of these people. 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:49.079 And those are going to be the next wave of things. 00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:54.900 Yeah. The black one that Alan bought for my mom, 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.279 that's like that level of nice. It's got one 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.279 very small dent, hardly any scratches. I mean, 00:25:01.299 --> 00:25:04.180 it's just no rot. I mean, it's just a beautiful 00:25:04.180 --> 00:25:07.950 truck. Yeah, we just need to get the rear. Fender 00:25:07.950 --> 00:25:10.410 flares put together and everything will be perfect. 00:25:10.910 --> 00:25:15.130 Yeah. I stole those off Benji's truck two years 00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:17.269 ago, and they're still in a box ready to be painted. 00:25:18.009 --> 00:25:19.809 I was going to ask you, are those the ones you 00:25:19.809 --> 00:25:24.369 got off me? Yep. Those are hard to find, man. 00:25:25.029 --> 00:25:28.450 Are they? That one's a Sport, not a Limited. 00:25:28.670 --> 00:25:34.390 Yep. And the SR5 flares, you know, SR5s didn't 00:25:34.390 --> 00:25:38.589 have flares, so not a problem. Limited's everywhere 00:25:38.589 --> 00:25:41.569 to get flares off of. But those sports, they're 00:25:41.569 --> 00:25:43.450 such a weird little model that only happened 00:25:43.450 --> 00:25:46.329 for, what, two years, three years? I like them. 00:25:46.750 --> 00:25:49.569 They're so cool. I like them better than the 00:25:49.569 --> 00:25:55.089 Limited's. Yeah. Granted, I'd still end up ripping 00:25:55.089 --> 00:25:56.769 the flares off because they get in the way of 00:25:56.769 --> 00:26:01.049 tires, but, you know. Trying to think of what 00:26:01.049 --> 00:26:03.609 mine's called. It's not a Limited, it's a... 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.099 It's a Highlander. Oh, okay. So it's got the 00:26:12.099 --> 00:26:15.039 fender flares, but it doesn't have the limited 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.960 door panels on the outside. Right. And then it's 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:23.980 got a blue interior, kind of a bluish slate. 00:26:24.700 --> 00:26:30.079 Yep. But that's a pretty unique one. Why did 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.819 I think that yours was a limited? It looks like 00:26:33.819 --> 00:26:36.180 a limited. It just doesn't have a door panel. 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:42.859 it just doesn't have the door trim yep that thing's 00:26:42.859 --> 00:26:45.660 sick i when first time we came down there dude 00:26:45.660 --> 00:26:47.619 i was like that's what i want my forerunner to 00:26:47.619 --> 00:26:50.920 look like no it never it never it went past that 00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.140 so fast yeah it went down i'm gonna have to do 00:26:53.140 --> 00:26:57.259 this i gotta lift my i gotta i gotta go to 35s 00:26:57.259 --> 00:26:58.940 and i'm gonna do like probably a one inch body 00:26:58.940 --> 00:27:00.980 lift i hate body lifts but i think i can make 00:27:00.980 --> 00:27:04.359 it look decent with 35s but i need some more 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.109 clearance Don't do a body lift for 35s, dude. 00:27:10.190 --> 00:27:14.130 I'm eating those fenders bad with my aftermarket 00:27:14.130 --> 00:27:17.950 setup. Do some long travel. Then you'd be set. 00:27:18.089 --> 00:27:23.250 Yeah. I don't know. I want to, but those would 00:27:23.250 --> 00:27:26.009 be expensive, A, and then B, wheeling in the 00:27:26.009 --> 00:27:30.009 Ozarks. I could do it because that thing's still 00:27:30.009 --> 00:27:33.509 a very narrow platform. Yeah. I'm just talking 00:27:33.509 --> 00:27:38.079 myself out of it. it's tight up here um you definitely 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.180 have to pay attention you know it's not like 00:27:40.180 --> 00:27:42.559 how i used to wheel where i just whip around 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.440 shit like i do have to pay attention now but 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.940 i've never i've never hit anything with it you 00:27:47.940 --> 00:27:50.599 know i've always been able to get through um 00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:54.559 i bet you drive so much better oh my i could 00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:59.539 never own a factory travel uh forerunner again 00:27:59.539 --> 00:28:04.460 dude it's a world's better world's better yeah 00:28:04.460 --> 00:28:08.720 um what brand is it so mine's a homemade one 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:13.099 what'd you get piece it together for me so uh 00:28:13.099 --> 00:28:17.960 if you go on i think instagram he's on instagram 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:22.460 rocky t4r he sells plans where you can send them 00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:24.200 to somebody and they'll cut you all the metal 00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.740 and then you just weld it together no fun so 00:28:27.740 --> 00:28:33.750 what cvs are you riding tundra so even then i 00:28:33.750 --> 00:28:38.430 guess no first gen tundra no kidding so even 00:28:38.430 --> 00:28:41.049 if i you know let's say i blow a cv on the trail 00:28:41.049 --> 00:28:43.710 i can just go to an o'reilly's and pick one up 00:28:43.710 --> 00:28:47.829 and get out of there like it's that's pretty 00:28:47.829 --> 00:28:51.289 cool it's so easy dude and i mean there's downsides 00:28:51.289 --> 00:28:54.529 right like long travel i have hit the control 00:28:54.529 --> 00:28:57.930 arms on stuff because you know there's more control 00:28:57.930 --> 00:29:02.349 arm to hit but it's not near as much it's not 00:29:02.349 --> 00:29:04.410 enough for me to say it's not worth it you know 00:29:04.410 --> 00:29:07.289 like when we were we were up in drummond island 00:29:07.289 --> 00:29:09.950 and i was crawling through everything just fine 00:29:09.950 --> 00:29:16.549 yeah um so i do remember on marblehead i nailed 00:29:16.549 --> 00:29:18.569 that front control arm pretty hard and i mean 00:29:18.569 --> 00:29:21.269 it it tells you that you hit it like you're gonna 00:29:21.269 --> 00:29:28.089 feel that but no dude i think it's 250 for the 00:29:28.089 --> 00:29:33.109 files um And then roughly $600 to get it cut. 00:29:33.190 --> 00:29:36.549 So 800 bucks total into long travel. Yeah. Compared 00:29:36.549 --> 00:29:40.609 to, I think the, the cheapest option is like 00:29:40.609 --> 00:29:44.069 33 or 3 ,400 bucks. If you were to go with a 00:29:44.069 --> 00:29:48.910 prebuilt kit. Um, also the prebuilt kits are 00:29:48.910 --> 00:29:52.529 all thinner metal. Uh, whereas the Rocky T4R 00:29:52.529 --> 00:29:55.369 it's fricking beefy. Like you're not going to 00:29:55.369 --> 00:30:00.509 bend that stuff. Nice. So. And, I mean, it's 00:30:00.509 --> 00:30:05.150 got some downsides, if you would call it that. 00:30:05.470 --> 00:30:07.609 Instead of ball joints, it's all heim joints 00:30:07.609 --> 00:30:12.049 or uniballs. So you feel more of the road, but 00:30:12.049 --> 00:30:13.970 you don't have to worry about it breaking like 00:30:13.970 --> 00:30:20.450 you do on the stock platform. Because I definitely 00:30:20.450 --> 00:30:26.990 have broken a ball joint or two. I always worry 00:30:26.990 --> 00:30:36.380 about that. I broke one. Was that Illinois? Is 00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:38.619 that where it finally broke? Yeah. I think we 00:30:38.619 --> 00:30:42.900 just got barely out of Wisconsin. Yeah. We did 00:30:42.900 --> 00:30:46.599 ball joints, and then we drove almost 2 ,000 00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:49.539 miles on it, and then it snapped in Illinois. 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:54.019 Yeah. Took out my fender. I ended up abandoning 00:30:54.019 --> 00:30:55.740 my fender on the side of the road because I had 00:30:55.740 --> 00:30:59.769 nowhere to put it. The one with all the stickers 00:30:59.769 --> 00:31:02.789 on it? Oh, no. That's why I have one with all 00:31:02.789 --> 00:31:05.529 the stickers on it. Because I couldn't get one 00:31:05.529 --> 00:31:08.049 that was the same color, so I just stripped all 00:31:08.049 --> 00:31:10.470 the paint off it and sticker -bombed it. That's 00:31:10.470 --> 00:31:14.109 funny. Originally, I was just going to get it 00:31:14.109 --> 00:31:15.690 paint -matched, and then we were sitting around 00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:17.490 the fire, and all the guys were like, no, you 00:31:17.490 --> 00:31:22.210 should sticker -bomb it. I like it. Yeah, it's... 00:31:23.619 --> 00:31:25.940 It's definitely become a marker of my truck. 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:28.740 So it can't really go anywhere, I guess, even 00:31:28.740 --> 00:31:30.640 though it's a pain in the ass to maintain. Yeah, 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:35.680 I bet you put clear on it, right? So I do what 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.200 I took all the paint off. I clear coated it about 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.539 six coats. I put stickers on and then about eight 00:31:41.539 --> 00:31:44.839 or nine coats of clear coat over it. And after 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.000 about a year, that clear coat goes away and the 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.720 stickers start to come off. This time they didn't 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.799 fade, though. Last time they faded blue. This 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.220 time they kept their color. They're just falling 00:31:56.220 --> 00:32:03.559 off. Oh, well. I'll probably spend the next year 00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:05.539 just slapping stickers over where there's holes 00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:09.420 and then fall back into stripping it all down 00:32:09.420 --> 00:32:15.160 and starting over in a year. Stickers are addicting. 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.369 They are. I've got this really sick one that 00:32:20.369 --> 00:32:23.670 looks like a jar of mayonnaise. Oh, that's a 00:32:23.670 --> 00:32:26.369 good one. Dude, that's probably my favorite sticker 00:32:26.369 --> 00:32:29.509 that you've got. I need beaches in those. That'd 00:32:29.509 --> 00:32:32.769 be yes. Patches are so expensive. I want to do 00:32:32.769 --> 00:32:37.609 the the PVC ones in that. That looks so sick. 00:32:38.549 --> 00:32:42.519 We've been. We do embroidered patches, and they're 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.900 like $3 still without Velcro on them. Well, you 00:32:45.900 --> 00:32:47.880 got Velcro ones last time. How much were those? 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.019 I want to say it was like $1 more, but I don't 00:32:53.019 --> 00:32:55.859 think you can get them Velcro anymore on the 00:32:55.859 --> 00:33:01.119 website. Gotcha. Yeah. I mean, they're still 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:06.960 pretty pricey, but we have them for ourselves, 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.390 and then we give them out here and there. Whenever 00:33:09.390 --> 00:33:11.670 I run into someone and we get talking and then 00:33:11.670 --> 00:33:14.230 I mention I have a podcast, I end up giving my 00:33:14.230 --> 00:33:16.809 patch away to them so they can find me later. 00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:21.210 That's fun. I took all mine off, but I was going 00:33:21.210 --> 00:33:23.609 to put them back on. I wanted to redo it, but 00:33:23.609 --> 00:33:26.150 I put them in my bag and then I've got them in 00:33:26.150 --> 00:33:29.049 my office. I need to put them back out there. 00:33:29.170 --> 00:33:33.430 I like patches too. Mine all moved over to the 00:33:33.430 --> 00:33:36.309 Ford because I was driving that more and I wanted 00:33:36.309 --> 00:33:38.130 to look up and see all my wonderful patches. 00:33:38.670 --> 00:33:42.609 I needed my daily reminder to think about what 00:33:42.609 --> 00:33:48.890 Dolly would do. I have to see that one. Yeah, 00:33:48.910 --> 00:33:51.789 it's a Dolly Parton boot that says, what would 00:33:51.789 --> 00:33:58.789 Dolly do? I'm a really big Dolly fan, and my 00:33:58.789 --> 00:34:03.890 dad got me that for Christmas. That's cool. Yeah, 00:34:03.910 --> 00:34:07.279 it's... i don't know man this it's just crazy 00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.099 how much this space has changed you know all 00:34:09.099 --> 00:34:12.619 those faces that we knew they're just new faces 00:34:12.619 --> 00:34:14.840 are coming in to replace them so that is nice 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:19.440 but yeah a lot it's i can't just say hey so and 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.420 so let's go wheelie because they might not even 00:34:21.420 --> 00:34:25.219 have a rig anymore yeah we're seeing some of 00:34:25.219 --> 00:34:29.199 that down here but not i don't know i think with 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.219 the events and now with overland of america canceling 00:34:32.219 --> 00:34:35.019 you know yeah rendezvous it's being their 10th 00:34:35.019 --> 00:34:38.219 final year so i think we'll see a lot of people 00:34:38.219 --> 00:34:40.300 yeah we'll see a lot of people at rendezvous 00:34:40.300 --> 00:34:44.659 uh probably even more so now that uh overland 00:34:44.659 --> 00:34:47.300 of america is not doing anything i didn't realize 00:34:47.300 --> 00:34:50.980 rendezvous this was their last year yep 10 and 00:34:50.980 --> 00:34:55.440 10 and last crazy so yeah they were doing it 00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:01.739 since uh 2016 or uh yeah it's crazy Not to put 00:35:01.739 --> 00:35:03.480 you on the spot, but do you know what happened 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.179 with Overland of America? Is that something you 00:35:05.179 --> 00:35:07.980 can share? I don't know details, so I'm going 00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:12.800 to speculate. I think it's the area itself, the 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:17.960 venue itself. But that's just speculation. But 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.000 that's what I read through the comments, more 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:25.960 or less, pieced that together. Because they posted 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.440 it on their Facebook. So that's what I read. 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:41.300 Gathered it through that. So. Yeah, it sucks 00:35:41.300 --> 00:35:43.400 seeing that stuff go away. I mean, not that I 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.380 ever had time or money to go to one of those 00:35:45.380 --> 00:35:48.500 events, but I like seeing people were out having 00:35:48.500 --> 00:35:50.960 fun. They're going to do another one. It just 00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.780 won't be at that venue, which is unfortunate 00:35:52.780 --> 00:35:54.900 because the venue had like a lazy river, had 00:35:54.900 --> 00:35:57.960 all these amenities. decent camping you know 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.440 for what it was so they should just do a redneck 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.760 lazy river with some hay bales and some tarps 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:10.760 sign me up dude it'd be sick get some jet skis 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:16.719 to propel the water where it needs to go try 00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.980 and find a spot where there's like a downhill 00:36:18.980 --> 00:36:21.340 section that's just enough to loop it back around 00:36:21.340 --> 00:36:25.590 that'd be funny I guess still you'd have to find 00:36:25.590 --> 00:36:27.610 a way to make the water flow because you'd have 00:36:27.610 --> 00:36:33.070 to go uphill at some point. Yeah. Get a hay elevator 00:36:33.070 --> 00:36:37.869 and just park it just right where it drags people 00:36:37.869 --> 00:36:44.710 up. Oh, that'd be funny. That would be. I don't 00:36:44.710 --> 00:36:49.289 know. I don't know, dude. It's cool. It's cool 00:36:49.289 --> 00:36:51.849 that you guys have so much stuff in your area. 00:36:52.050 --> 00:36:54.769 I mean, we've got like... We've got rigs and 00:36:54.769 --> 00:36:58.429 coffee once a month, and then we've got Toyota 00:36:58.429 --> 00:37:03.550 takeover, Jeep takeovers. I guess we have events, 00:37:03.650 --> 00:37:05.690 too. They're just one -day events. They're not 00:37:05.690 --> 00:37:08.989 those big expos, you know, aside from CORE. We 00:37:08.989 --> 00:37:12.289 have CORE, but that's a stretch for us. Well, 00:37:12.289 --> 00:37:17.550 isn't that pretty limited, I would say? Not small, 00:37:17.650 --> 00:37:19.289 because they're only limited on a certain amount 00:37:19.289 --> 00:37:22.530 of spots. Is that correct? yep core is pretty 00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:31.610 limited yes it is but i think the whole industry 00:37:31.610 --> 00:37:35.510 in this in in and of itself shrinking yeah for 00:37:35.510 --> 00:37:38.409 sure which is a good and bad thing it's a good 00:37:38.409 --> 00:37:41.949 thing because the people that are staying really 00:37:41.949 --> 00:37:44.010 care about what they're doing and what products 00:37:44.010 --> 00:37:46.610 they have but it's bad because there's less of 00:37:46.610 --> 00:37:52.980 it yeah yeah I think the whole model of, you 00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:55.380 know, and this is there's no shade here, but 00:37:55.380 --> 00:37:57.420 that's like the structure around consumerism, 00:37:57.460 --> 00:38:00.300 which those people with the big consumeristic 00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:04.340 events, you know, they're pretty much modeling 00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:06.699 what Overland is supposed to look like. And I 00:38:06.699 --> 00:38:08.380 think once people get out of that two, three 00:38:08.380 --> 00:38:11.099 year gap and then they're like, oh, this is kind 00:38:11.099 --> 00:38:14.380 of phony or whatever. What are what are everybody 00:38:14.380 --> 00:38:16.119 else doing? So they break the barrier and they 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:17.420 got to do their own thing. So I don't think in 00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:19.670 the respect it's dead. I think the. the terminology 00:38:19.670 --> 00:38:22.369 or a definition of what the air quote overland 00:38:22.369 --> 00:38:26.309 looks like to us is kind of dead because we're 00:38:26.309 --> 00:38:28.150 just moving on from that, but we're not out of 00:38:28.150 --> 00:38:29.710 it. Yeah. Right. And then there's some people 00:38:29.710 --> 00:38:30.889 like we were talking about earlier, how to just 00:38:30.889 --> 00:38:34.449 drop out completely. But yeah, cause I'd say 00:38:34.449 --> 00:38:38.230 probably maybe even 2019 might even been pre 00:38:38.230 --> 00:38:41.010 COVID a little bit, but it really got into like 00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:44.349 this, buy this product, hang out with these people 00:38:44.349 --> 00:38:46.829 at these events. It's really what it turned into, 00:38:46.889 --> 00:38:50.840 but. At its core, and this is what always blew 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.639 my mind about that, is at its core, it's going 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:55.980 out in the woods to camp and get away from people. 00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.039 But then we had all these events where you're 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.500 bringing lots of people together and you're camping 00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:05.699 in a field. Yeah. That is kind of interesting. 00:39:06.590 --> 00:39:08.309 It gives opportunity, though, for those kind 00:39:08.309 --> 00:39:11.250 of new to get connected because a lot of people 00:39:11.250 --> 00:39:13.590 don't even know where to begin. So if you go 00:39:13.590 --> 00:39:15.730 to these little gatherings, little whatever meetups, 00:39:15.849 --> 00:39:18.190 then they start talking and they get connected. 00:39:18.329 --> 00:39:20.909 And that's what we try to do. You know, we're 00:39:20.909 --> 00:39:22.650 going to try to do more meetups and stuff as 00:39:22.650 --> 00:39:27.050 time allows. But, yeah, I think basing your core 00:39:27.050 --> 00:39:29.170 community, whatever that is, you know, two or 00:39:29.170 --> 00:39:31.170 three counties or if it's a whole state or region, 00:39:31.389 --> 00:39:35.489 you know. If that's what you're about, you know, 00:39:35.489 --> 00:39:36.590 and there's a lot of people that aren't about 00:39:36.590 --> 00:39:43.010 social stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Are we going to do 00:39:43.010 --> 00:39:47.489 a Mayo invades Michigan this winter? I hope. 00:39:48.010 --> 00:39:51.190 I hope so. I need to come up there when you guys 00:39:51.190 --> 00:39:53.989 actually get some decent powder. Because we don't 00:39:53.989 --> 00:39:56.590 get snow anymore down here. I wouldn't really 00:39:56.590 --> 00:40:00.929 call ours powder. Our snow is weird. Is it slushy? 00:40:01.730 --> 00:40:06.679 No, it's. I guess powder is a good term. Our 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.099 snow is just weird, man. You know how in the 00:40:09.099 --> 00:40:11.159 mountains, right? You get snow and then it gets 00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:13.960 a snow pack and then there's lighter stuff on 00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:15.860 top of it. So you've always got something to 00:40:15.860 --> 00:40:19.840 grip up here. It's just soft all the way down. 00:40:20.219 --> 00:40:24.480 So you end up with like whole trails that are 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:26.619 just inaccessible and they might just be a nice, 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.940 you know, a service road basically, but there's 00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:32.079 no way to drive down it in any vehicle. You'd 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:36.539 have to have tracks. interesting so i mean it 00:40:36.539 --> 00:40:38.880 it's fun it's definitely it's a learning curve 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.360 to learn how to drive in it um we do what we 00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.960 call retard run um and that's the first negative 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:52.199 degree uh weekend of the year yeah and that one 00:40:53.019 --> 00:40:56.199 be any moment or you kind of plan for it uh we 00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:58.420 kind of look at the weather about a week in advance 00:40:58.420 --> 00:41:00.900 so yeah like i've got to be able to put time 00:41:00.900 --> 00:41:02.880 in at work but i just tell my boss yeah i'm gonna 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.480 be gone this coming weekend yeah for this last 00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:10.059 time it was when we had the two um blizzards 00:41:10.059 --> 00:41:12.239 pretty much and the tips were just low for us 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:17.900 for a while yeah we had two pretty massive blizzards 00:41:17.900 --> 00:41:21.429 and then the temp sat at like I think during 00:41:21.429 --> 00:41:23.489 the day we were hitting four or five degrees, 00:41:23.650 --> 00:41:26.250 and then at night it was like negative 20. Yeah, 00:41:26.250 --> 00:41:29.190 because my company fell and shut down because 00:41:29.190 --> 00:41:36.469 of how cold it was. Sheesh. Yeah, we had like... 00:41:36.469 --> 00:41:41.150 I think we were at like three foot of snow, roughly. 00:41:41.389 --> 00:41:46.630 Yeah. if you look find pictures of it it's pretty 00:41:46.630 --> 00:41:49.409 funny because we took a shovel and we dug a square 00:41:49.409 --> 00:41:51.550 where we were going to put our tents that way 00:41:51.550 --> 00:41:54.889 they were like you know on actual ground and 00:41:54.889 --> 00:41:57.889 it's like our tents and then just this wall of 00:41:57.889 --> 00:42:03.309 snow yeah really yeah yeah but was that from 00:42:03.309 --> 00:42:06.909 this last year yes yeah this last year i'll have 00:42:06.909 --> 00:42:08.429 to look at i probably saw i'll have to go back 00:42:08.429 --> 00:42:12.150 and look Yeah, I mean, it's really a fun trip. 00:42:12.190 --> 00:42:14.809 Most of it's sitting in a large tent playing 00:42:14.809 --> 00:42:19.929 cards, but it's a really fun trip. Yeah. Just 00:42:19.929 --> 00:42:22.349 get out, drink with your buddies, play some cards. 00:42:22.449 --> 00:42:25.670 It's good. We try to do that with a group every 00:42:25.670 --> 00:42:27.630 February because that's when it gets really cold 00:42:27.630 --> 00:42:31.750 for us, especially in Arkansas. but it's like 00:42:31.750 --> 00:42:34.429 we try to do that and we don't call like a cold 00:42:34.429 --> 00:42:36.710 run it's just like we get together when it's 00:42:36.710 --> 00:42:39.170 cold and go camping because like no one's out 00:42:39.170 --> 00:42:41.789 during that time and we can still do a lot of 00:42:41.789 --> 00:42:44.170 stuff and i don't know if you guys know eli um 00:42:44.170 --> 00:42:47.969 he he has the oh he gets on to me all the time 00:42:47.969 --> 00:42:51.570 it was an xj or something rather wj or something 00:42:51.570 --> 00:42:55.809 and he hydrolocked it doing that cold water crossing 00:42:55.809 --> 00:42:59.389 yeah um i remember seeing that And I pissed him 00:42:59.389 --> 00:43:03.630 through the oil. And he just got just a mist 00:43:03.630 --> 00:43:06.630 of water. But I think the pan being really cold, 00:43:06.690 --> 00:43:08.170 that shock, I don't know if that did much to 00:43:08.170 --> 00:43:10.329 it. But definitely sucking in that water just 00:43:10.329 --> 00:43:19.750 locked it up. Yeah. No, we don't do a whole lot 00:43:19.750 --> 00:43:22.250 in the summer. Usually about fall to winter times 00:43:22.250 --> 00:43:26.449 when we start doing stuff. Yeah. Which is nice 00:43:26.449 --> 00:43:29.469 because there's less idiots on the trails fall 00:43:29.469 --> 00:43:33.389 and winter time. But the downside is that here, 00:43:33.510 --> 00:43:35.730 a lot of our trails turn into snowmobile trails 00:43:35.730 --> 00:43:38.469 in the winter. So we lose access to probably 00:43:38.469 --> 00:43:40.809 half of what we normally would operate on. Yeah. 00:43:41.150 --> 00:43:44.489 Gotcha. They designate it solely for them. Oh, 00:43:44.489 --> 00:43:48.989 yeah. Especially the UP. Oh, yeah, for sure. 00:43:49.570 --> 00:43:52.400 Yeah, they've got. So, you know how when you're 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.260 going on a trail and they've got the little sign 00:43:54.260 --> 00:43:56.139 that tells you, you know, what vehicles are allowed 00:43:56.139 --> 00:44:00.619 on this. Ours will say all traffic. And then 00:44:00.619 --> 00:44:04.800 it'll have like, I think it's November or no, 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:09.579 it's December through March. And then it has 00:44:09.579 --> 00:44:15.369 just a snowmobile. So it's. It sucks, but at 00:44:15.369 --> 00:44:17.829 the same time, having, you know, red snowmobiles 00:44:17.829 --> 00:44:20.489 most of my life, I'm glad they do it because 00:44:20.489 --> 00:44:23.010 those trails would get beat the hell up from 00:44:23.010 --> 00:44:28.750 trucks. Yeah. So I understand, but as a person 00:44:28.750 --> 00:44:31.489 who now only wheels, I miss going on trails. 00:44:32.929 --> 00:44:35.650 That'd be fun. I've never snowmobiled or whatever 00:44:35.650 --> 00:44:40.349 you call it. Yeah. Snowmobiling's fun. We call 00:44:40.349 --> 00:44:42.809 it sledding up here more than snowmobiling. Yeah. 00:44:43.539 --> 00:44:48.619 It's really fun. It's really fun. We end up covered 00:44:48.619 --> 00:44:51.840 in white stuff. And although it's cold outside, 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:53.960 you tend to sweat your ass off because it's kind 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:58.960 of hard to stay on those things. I bet. I used 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:03.199 to drive one from my house in Big Rapids all 00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:05.380 the way up to Reed City, which in cars about 00:45:05.380 --> 00:45:08.559 35, 40 minutes. But I used to drive one every 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.980 day for work and I'd be cruising down the trail 00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:15.409 like 90 miles an hour. Wow. And it gets hard 00:45:15.409 --> 00:45:17.250 to stay on, man. You're getting tossed all over 00:45:17.250 --> 00:45:23.010 the place. Sheesh. But it would get me to work 00:45:23.010 --> 00:45:26.070 in 15 minutes instead of 35, so I can't complain 00:45:26.070 --> 00:45:31.070 about it. It was like zero traffic. Yeah, the 00:45:31.070 --> 00:45:33.650 benefit was there was zero traffic, and it was 00:45:33.650 --> 00:45:37.170 a straight shot from my house to the factory 00:45:37.170 --> 00:45:40.039 I worked at. I mean, literally, you got on the 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.019 trail, and it used to be an old railroad, so 00:45:42.019 --> 00:45:45.239 it's just straight all the way there. That's 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.519 pretty cool. Don't a lot of people do that, I 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.400 guess? Not really. You go a little farther north, 00:45:51.619 --> 00:45:55.159 probably starting in Reed City, you'll start 00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:59.300 seeing people use them for normal commuting in 00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:02.400 the winter. But down where we're at, you really 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.340 don't see it that much because our snow just 00:46:04.340 --> 00:46:06.739 comes, it's here for like four days, and it's 00:46:06.739 --> 00:46:10.219 gone. yeah unless you're in the woods then you 00:46:10.219 --> 00:46:13.380 got it for a couple weeks but i know at least 00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:15.460 in the southern part of michigan they take up 00:46:15.460 --> 00:46:17.980 a lot of the farm fields and have a giant snowmobile 00:46:17.980 --> 00:46:21.820 routes for different areas but yeah i think this 00:46:21.820 --> 00:46:23.519 last year was the only good time they actually 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:26.820 had it previous years barely had any snow in 00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:33.969 the fields yep Definitely an interesting time 00:46:33.969 --> 00:46:35.789 when it comes to the cold weather because we're 00:46:35.789 --> 00:46:39.889 just not getting a lot of it anymore. Yeah. Guess 00:46:39.889 --> 00:46:47.030 we shouldn't have stopped all of our carbon. 00:46:48.010 --> 00:46:50.510 What's it called? We shouldn't have stopped all 00:46:50.510 --> 00:46:52.610 our pollution because now we're finding out that 00:46:52.610 --> 00:46:55.210 that's what's causing it to get warm. Your cloud 00:46:55.210 --> 00:46:59.130 makers. As the sky's getting clear. So there 00:46:59.130 --> 00:47:02.360 was a study, the UK just put it out. because 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.320 they've done so well with clean air, it's now 00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.139 causing everything to get hotter because we used 00:47:08.139 --> 00:47:11.800 to reflect solar rays away from us. And now they're 00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:15.099 just hitting us directly. Yeah. I believe it. 00:47:15.940 --> 00:47:19.239 So, and it makes sense, you know, if the big 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.400 pollution that we were having was in the early 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:25.860 1900s. So that's, you know, 125 years ago now, 00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:29.610 126 years ago. Yeah. And we really started cleaning 00:47:29.610 --> 00:47:31.809 it up in the 80s. So it would be now that we'd 00:47:31.809 --> 00:47:34.869 see, oh, the world was hot before we started 00:47:34.869 --> 00:47:40.710 polluting it. And it kind of lines up, if you 00:47:40.710 --> 00:47:43.610 look back at previous temperatures from like 00:47:43.610 --> 00:47:47.550 the mid -1800s, it was always hot, you know, 00:47:47.610 --> 00:47:51.449 in that time period. And then we started polluting, 00:47:51.469 --> 00:47:53.230 and then they kind of cleaned it up just before 00:47:53.230 --> 00:47:55.679 the Dust Bowl. And then the dust bowl happened. 00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:57.340 And then we started polluting a little bit more. 00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.800 And then we cleaned it up. So it's interesting 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.059 to see that pollution is what makes it cooler, 00:48:03.099 --> 00:48:09.360 not hotter. Science. Yeah. I got to get some 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.940 bugs for it. Yeah, I can hear them. Those are 00:48:13.940 --> 00:48:18.099 the cicadas. Aren't they pretty? It is pretty. 00:48:18.820 --> 00:48:20.840 Those are my favorite. Because they're only here 00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:26.519 for like a few months. We are not lucky enough 00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:31.239 to hear cicadas. Yeah. Do you have the problem 00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.500 where you're driving down the road and you're 00:48:33.500 --> 00:48:35.360 just going crunch, crunch, crunch over cicadas 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:45.579 the whole way? Hold on one second. What? I've 00:48:45.579 --> 00:48:57.829 got it. What? I'm on a podcast. I don't know. 00:48:57.849 --> 00:49:01.510 She's trying to tell me something. Married to 00:49:01.510 --> 00:49:06.829 an old man. She can't communicate with me. You're 00:49:06.829 --> 00:49:14.130 not that old. You're what? Like 35, 36? 38. I'll 00:49:14.130 --> 00:49:18.059 be 39 next month. Man. Man. I mean, let me tell 00:49:18.059 --> 00:49:20.659 you something. When you boys cross over 30, how 00:49:20.659 --> 00:49:22.219 old are you guys? He's been crossing 30. I just 00:49:22.219 --> 00:49:25.280 turned 30. Most likely he is 30. All right. So 00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.639 pace yourself for 35. Get a little serious when 00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:32.039 you're 35 about your health. Yeah. And then contemplate 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.960 it when you're about to turn 40. All right. And 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:36.940 then it's go time. I've been drinking nothing 00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:39.579 but waters and fruits and veggies. I'm just joking. 00:49:40.460 --> 00:49:43.860 But I have been watching my intake a little bit. 00:49:45.260 --> 00:49:48.559 yeah i gotta i gotta make a change i got on a 00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:50.900 scale and i'd hit 300 and that's the heaviest 00:49:50.900 --> 00:49:55.699 i've ever been so it's time to do something yeah 00:49:55.699 --> 00:49:59.699 because the older you get and you know more tuckered 00:49:59.699 --> 00:50:02.300 out you make your body then the more prone you're 00:50:02.300 --> 00:50:04.800 not gonna be active so that's what i keep telling 00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.960 myself so it's like the more i get the results 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:11.440 from said experiences then you're like buddy 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:14.829 this ain't gonna get any better so That's just 00:50:14.829 --> 00:50:21.409 your future old self talking to you. Yeah. But, 00:50:21.449 --> 00:50:24.309 hey, dude, we're getting ready to crest about 00:50:24.309 --> 00:50:28.829 an hour here. Dadgum. Just about. Got 50 minutes, 00:50:28.929 --> 00:50:31.929 so. Yeah. Do you have any, like, closing statements, 00:50:32.130 --> 00:50:34.150 anything you want to talk about before we're 00:50:34.150 --> 00:50:38.030 out of here? Not necessarily topics to talk about, 00:50:38.110 --> 00:50:40.349 but just, you know, everybody, the world's a 00:50:40.349 --> 00:50:43.699 crazy place, so be nice to others. Don't be a 00:50:43.699 --> 00:50:46.139 you -know -what unless you have to be, but don't 00:50:46.139 --> 00:50:50.280 try to be that person. Yeah. But outside of that, 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.619 go camping as much as you can. What is it you 00:50:53.619 --> 00:50:56.980 always say? If you fuck up, say sorry or something. 00:50:57.260 --> 00:50:59.219 If you fuck up, make it right or something along 00:50:59.219 --> 00:51:03.059 those lines. Yeah. Whatever it is you say at 00:51:03.059 --> 00:51:04.860 the end of your podcast every time, it's always 00:51:04.860 --> 00:51:07.400 inspirational. Yeah, I like it, though, because 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.880 people get to work and everybody's all over them. 00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:15.480 So it's just like, chill out, man. yeah but all 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.760 right man sounds good well it's been real having 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.300 you on and yeah it's good times we'll uh we'll 00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:23.280 have to get you on again in about a year because 00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:25.000 i think it's been about a year since you were 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:28.059 on last really yeah all right that's good more 00:51:28.059 --> 00:51:30.619 than that because you were on you were one of 00:51:30.619 --> 00:51:35.059 our first like 10 episodes and that was back 00:51:35.059 --> 00:51:38.039 it's been almost a year and a half maybe even 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:43.389 almost two years yeah Crazy. I'm blind, man. 00:51:43.570 --> 00:51:45.829 Yeah. Hell yeah, it does. But all right, man. 00:51:46.349 --> 00:51:49.030 It's been real. Talk to you later. All right, 00:51:49.050 --> 00:51:51.769 you boys have a good night. You too. See you. 00:51:51.909 --> 00:51:52.190 See ya.