WEBVTT 00:00:18.210 --> 00:00:22.190 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Gavin, you're making 00:00:22.190 --> 00:00:26.809 funny faces over there. Am I? A little bit. Whoops. 00:00:27.649 --> 00:00:30.870 I couldn't tell if half -awake, exhausted, what 00:00:30.870 --> 00:00:33.509 was going on there. All of the above. All of 00:00:33.509 --> 00:00:36.890 the above. Dude, it's been a freaking week already. 00:00:36.929 --> 00:00:38.890 What is it, Tuesday? God damn, it may as well 00:00:38.890 --> 00:00:42.429 be Friday. We're fighting the yawns. I don't 00:00:42.429 --> 00:00:44.409 want to hear anything from Mark. Mark hasn't 00:00:44.409 --> 00:00:48.179 even been to work yet. No. Mark, did you get 00:00:48.179 --> 00:00:53.479 a haircut? Yes, I did. Mark, did you get new 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:58.020 headphones? Yeah. Me too. I mean, technically, 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:01.899 not new. They're new pads. See that? You did 00:01:01.899 --> 00:01:06.959 get the new pads? Yes, I did. Nice. Yeah, I'm 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:09.739 going to have to get the pads because there's 00:01:09.739 --> 00:01:11.900 audio bleed through with these open back headphones, 00:01:12.099 --> 00:01:16.349 which I was scared was going to happen. And I 00:01:16.349 --> 00:01:19.030 had to build a new noise gate for our last few 00:01:19.030 --> 00:01:25.590 episodes. So... Yeah. I'll have to get those 00:01:25.590 --> 00:01:28.849 back so that I can not have to use as heavy of 00:01:28.849 --> 00:01:33.030 a noise gate from now on. Let me just turn you 00:01:33.030 --> 00:01:36.989 guys up a little bit. There we go. That's better. 00:01:37.189 --> 00:01:38.629 Wait, Gavin, you said you got new headphones 00:01:38.629 --> 00:01:40.909 too? No, I got a new haircut. I asked him if 00:01:40.909 --> 00:01:44.209 he got a new haircut. And he said yes. I said 00:01:44.209 --> 00:01:52.140 yes, I did too. Yeah, so it's been a week. We 00:01:52.140 --> 00:02:00.879 did timing on the 4Runner. Kind of. Yeah, did. 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:06.840 4Runner's broke again. The timing job that we 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:11.620 did, I didn't have a good... What's that thing 00:02:11.620 --> 00:02:14.610 called? Harmonic balancer? So I couldn't tighten 00:02:14.610 --> 00:02:17.930 the crank bolt as far as I was supposed to. Then 00:02:17.930 --> 00:02:19.909 when I tried something to make that happen, it 00:02:19.909 --> 00:02:25.289 slipped a bunch of teeth. So, yeah. Timing's 00:02:25.289 --> 00:02:27.689 not done. I have parts coming to do it and a 00:02:27.689 --> 00:02:30.389 new harmonic balancer. So this weekend we should 00:02:30.389 --> 00:02:34.590 be able to fix it. Hopefully I didn't break anything. 00:02:36.229 --> 00:02:40.569 Hopefully. So unless we hear something about 00:02:40.569 --> 00:02:42.629 my truck at this point, we're probably not going 00:02:42.629 --> 00:02:46.849 to rigs and coffee. Yeah, so I think that your 00:02:46.849 --> 00:02:49.389 truck isn't coming or going to be ready until 00:02:49.389 --> 00:02:53.610 Friday. Wait, what day is rigs and coffee? Sunday. 00:02:54.310 --> 00:03:01.870 What? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so your truck, I got 00:03:01.870 --> 00:03:05.050 a call from O 'Reilly's today asking me if we 00:03:05.050 --> 00:03:07.370 had gotten two parts because they lost a part. 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.219 And I was like, no. And they're like, well, we've 00:03:10.219 --> 00:03:14.400 got this shop that's looking for a VVT sensor. 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:20.080 And we had ordered two for you, but somehow you 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:23.099 bought one and we can't find the other one. And 00:03:23.099 --> 00:03:27.080 I was like, oh, well, we only have one. And I'm 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.500 like, and the truck's at Precision Performance. 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:32.120 And he goes, oh, it's probably for the same truck. 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:42.319 Yeah. So... Yikes. Yeah, Sienna called me... 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:47.520 Another bad VVT then at that point? I don't know, 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:52.139 because the VVT's brand new. I know. Could be 00:03:52.139 --> 00:03:57.099 faulty. Weirder things have happened. Yeah, but 00:03:57.099 --> 00:03:59.159 it was having the same issue before we replaced 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:07.169 it, so... Could have been faulty before? It'd 00:04:07.169 --> 00:04:09.030 be weird to have two faulty ones, especially 00:04:09.030 --> 00:04:13.169 when one was good. I don't think so. I'm wondering 00:04:13.169 --> 00:04:18.170 if they broke it, like we did. Probably. If they 00:04:18.170 --> 00:04:24.170 did, then Mark gets a whole new engine. Yay! 00:04:25.529 --> 00:04:30.230 Bread -sized everything, guys. God, dude, it's... 00:04:30.230 --> 00:04:34.500 Yeah, so Forerunner's still borked. I haven't 00:04:34.500 --> 00:04:36.680 done anything except for work on that and go 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:42.379 to work and hate my life. Yeah. Gavin did stuff, 00:04:42.540 --> 00:04:44.439 so I'll just let him talk the rest of the episode. 00:04:44.779 --> 00:04:49.379 Wow. I mean, I didn't really do much. I got the 00:04:49.379 --> 00:04:54.660 tent in, which was good, finally, and really 00:04:54.660 --> 00:04:56.720 wanted to set it up, so I set it up that night 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:00.920 in the kitchen, and thankfully it wasn't as big 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:05.100 as I thought it was going to be. Cause I, I don't 00:05:05.100 --> 00:05:07.720 know why I don't, it doesn't feel like the size 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:11.439 of your gazebo, but it could be in measurement. 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:16.660 It just doesn't feel like it. And so I was like, 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.579 cool. This isn't quite as big as I thought it 00:05:19.579 --> 00:05:22.980 was going to be. It doesn't have the as, as big 00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:26.560 of a footprint. Uh, or you just think of our 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:29.420 gazebo as bigger than it actually is. It could 00:05:29.420 --> 00:05:35.449 be. Yeah, it could be. So. uh probably next day 00:05:35.449 --> 00:05:38.149 is the day after that or something whenever it 00:05:38.149 --> 00:05:41.009 was sunnier because we haven't had a sunny day 00:05:41.009 --> 00:05:45.949 in a while um we went out yeah and set it up 00:05:45.949 --> 00:05:50.209 and i took some video and tried to make a decent 00:05:50.209 --> 00:05:54.790 youtube video of it and of the whole taking it 00:05:54.790 --> 00:05:57.129 out of the bag and everything and it's pretty 00:05:57.129 --> 00:06:00.509 cool it's fucking heavy but it's pretty cool 00:06:00.990 --> 00:06:04.790 I mean, I forget. If there's a tent that makes 00:06:04.790 --> 00:06:09.569 the swag light, that's a heavy ass fucking tent. 00:06:09.629 --> 00:06:15.069 Yeah, dude. I mean, I know like 75 pounds isn't 00:06:15.069 --> 00:06:18.829 like heavy, but for a tent, when I went to go 00:06:18.829 --> 00:06:22.750 pick it up, I was like, like a little, I was 00:06:22.750 --> 00:06:25.610 a little surprised. Like, you know, you don't 00:06:25.610 --> 00:06:29.709 pick up 75 pounds. all the time at least i don't 00:06:29.709 --> 00:06:32.329 other people do but like so you kind of forget 00:06:32.329 --> 00:06:35.089 my job yeah you kind of forget what 75 pounds 00:06:35.089 --> 00:06:38.870 feels like until you're trying to throw a fucking 00:06:38.870 --> 00:06:41.910 sack of it on you like i could pick up two bags 00:06:41.910 --> 00:06:45.449 of pellets it's 80 pounds and i know how that 00:06:45.449 --> 00:06:48.670 feels but like in a long tent form i was just 00:06:48.670 --> 00:06:53.300 like wow okay it's like That's why I always just 00:06:53.300 --> 00:06:55.560 roll the swag off the truck, and then wherever 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.279 it rolls off is where it gets set up. Yeah. I'd 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:00.120 probably do that if I wasn't worried about, like, 00:07:00.139 --> 00:07:04.000 tent bolts breaking or something. But, yeah, 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:07.120 I think I'm going to have to clear some space 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:10.339 on the roof for that. That's true, because not 00:07:10.339 --> 00:07:12.800 only is it heavy, it doesn't have the cushiony 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.939 mattress to protect everything. No, no. But I 00:07:15.939 --> 00:07:17.860 will be bringing that to Rigs of Coffee and setting 00:07:17.860 --> 00:07:23.120 it up for people, so that'll be fun. Yeah, it'll 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:24.439 be cool. I mean, it looks like they're going 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:26.379 to be a good area to do it at because you got 00:07:26.379 --> 00:07:30.660 the park there. Yeah, I was kind of surprised 00:07:30.660 --> 00:07:36.100 that it was moving to a park. Well, I think it's, 00:07:36.100 --> 00:07:38.500 I got to double check it, but I'm pretty sure 00:07:38.500 --> 00:07:41.879 it's like slightly down the road from their place. 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:47.920 I mean, the garage currently is not that big, 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:50.279 so I'm not surprised that they got. permission 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:57.060 to do in the park so is is it saturday or sunday 00:07:57.060 --> 00:08:00.819 usually sunday i know it's usually sunday but 00:08:00.819 --> 00:08:03.899 i was wondering saturday's the um rocks and valleys 00:08:03.899 --> 00:08:09.439 oh yeah which i can't go to period there's no 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:14.120 way i'll be ready for that yeah huh but yeah 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:17.420 no i'm gonna show up there we're gonna Maybe 00:08:17.420 --> 00:08:21.500 I'll bring some hot dogs or something. With the 00:08:21.500 --> 00:08:24.000 tent there and everything, we might stay the 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.079 whole time and just relax for a little bit. Depends 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.879 on the weather, I guess. I was about to say, 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:34.120 depends on the weather there. Yeah. It's supposed 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:36.860 to be like 60. Yeah, if it's 60 and stuff, then 00:08:36.860 --> 00:08:41.000 we'll be fine. I don't know. I mean, last couple 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.039 weeks of weather here in Michigan has been insane. 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:49.590 Yeah, pretty rough. Cold. Rainy, snowy, sleet, 00:08:49.590 --> 00:08:55.409 all in the same three hours. Blizzards. Thunderstorms. 00:08:57.269 --> 00:09:01.169 Thunder, snow. Did you hear about the guy that 00:09:01.169 --> 00:09:03.049 decided to go out on the ice from Mackinac Island? 00:09:03.490 --> 00:09:07.549 Oh, on the snowmobile? During the blizzard? Had 00:09:07.549 --> 00:09:11.409 to get rescued by a cutter. They saved the snowmobile, 00:09:11.490 --> 00:09:15.470 too. It was a cool video. Yeah, I saw that. Nuts. 00:09:15.529 --> 00:09:17.509 Yeah, the shelf broke from him, so he really 00:09:17.509 --> 00:09:22.649 had to get rescued. Yeah. Yeah, that was... All 00:09:22.649 --> 00:09:24.950 you do is you just floor it on the snowmobile, 00:09:25.110 --> 00:09:27.149 and you scoot across the water. Yeah, I was... 00:09:27.149 --> 00:09:30.549 Have you seen the guys? He was told not to go 00:09:30.549 --> 00:09:34.090 out there. Yeah, he was warned by, like, a sheriff 00:09:34.090 --> 00:09:38.769 or something. But... It's just crazy, dude. Yeah. 00:09:40.149 --> 00:09:43.429 But, yeah, my... But, yeah, anyway. Tent's cool. 00:09:45.940 --> 00:09:48.440 I didn't know it came with a footprint, and it 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:51.759 comes with a footprint, so it's pretty cool about 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:55.299 that. Oh, like a tarp that goes underneath it? 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:59.419 What else? Pretty cool. Tent stakes. It's got 00:09:59.419 --> 00:10:02.279 some decent tent stakes, and it's got rainfly 00:10:02.279 --> 00:10:07.179 stakes, which are just the cheap tent stakes. 00:10:09.929 --> 00:10:12.129 Because that's got a solid roof. Do you even 00:10:12.129 --> 00:10:14.129 technically need the rain fly at that point? 00:10:14.129 --> 00:10:17.450 I don't know. I don't know. Because it's got 00:10:17.450 --> 00:10:24.350 sky windows. Do they have storm flaps over them? 00:10:24.529 --> 00:10:28.029 No, not over the top. Oh, then yeah, you need 00:10:28.029 --> 00:10:29.730 the rain fly. Otherwise, you're going to be leaking. 00:10:29.990 --> 00:10:33.570 Someone messaged me on YouTube about that and 00:10:33.570 --> 00:10:37.690 was asking if I moved the plastic windows for 00:10:37.690 --> 00:10:41.000 the side of the tent. to the top if that would 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:44.419 work and i'm like well probably not because it's 00:10:44.419 --> 00:10:48.120 like it's a velcro put on so i don't imagine 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.460 it would keep water very well so but that's fine 00:10:52.460 --> 00:10:55.000 after i installed the rainfly the first time 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:58.480 all you have to do is take it off like the pole 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.700 extenders and you can fold the tent up with the 00:11:00.700 --> 00:11:04.320 rainfly on top of it so next time theoretically 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.860 when i set it up all i have to do is stand it 00:11:06.860 --> 00:11:12.879 up and the rainfly should still be on it so no 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:18.879 that is kind of i guess if the rainfly stays 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:21.100 on it's not as big of a deal but it does kind 00:11:21.100 --> 00:11:23.159 of suck but at the same time if the rainfly can 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.279 stay on it then it doesn't really matter yeah 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:30.019 i think for it's no different from like my dagger 00:11:30.019 --> 00:11:37.080 or my um colorado three person the six person 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:41.240 tent except I'll give it a boom in the fact that 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:45.000 those, if you set up in the rain, the inside's 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:46.919 going to be wet. Whereas with that, it should 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.240 reflect some of the rain, even if it's not completely 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.220 waterproof. Yeah, that's true. That's a good 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:57.840 point. I was asking, because the big thing about 00:11:57.840 --> 00:11:59.740 the swag is you don't need a rain fly. You just 00:11:59.740 --> 00:12:02.220 roll it out and pop it up. Even if it's downpouring, 00:12:02.299 --> 00:12:04.279 all your shit inside's going to stay dry. Yeah, 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:09.220 this isn't quite like canvas. But it's a pretty 00:12:09.220 --> 00:12:14.120 heavy material. I don't really know how to call 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.879 it, you know, like what to consider it as, but 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:21.419 it's pretty heavy duty. Like I said, when we 00:12:21.419 --> 00:12:24.240 get a nice day, I'll bring it over and we can 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:29.740 set it up and we can both look at it. Nice days 00:12:29.740 --> 00:12:32.360 are far and few in between, you know, this whole 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:35.220 cold and windy. Like, not to bring up the weather 00:12:35.220 --> 00:12:37.039 again, dude, but this has been rough. Yeah, no, 00:12:37.139 --> 00:12:42.159 it has. Like, when that day, me and Jasper spent 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:45.419 a couple hours outside just because it was that 00:12:45.419 --> 00:12:48.120 nice and we were that fucking, like, kept up 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:51.159 and just wanted to get out. And I was like, oh, 00:12:51.179 --> 00:12:53.139 yeah, yeah, come inside, let's go do dinner, 00:12:53.259 --> 00:12:55.899 and we'll come back out tomorrow. And then tomorrow 00:12:55.899 --> 00:12:59.320 comes and it's fucking shit and rain and sleet 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:01.960 and snow all at the same time and thunderstorms. 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:11.639 Okay, well. Maybe not. And... Yeah, I... Sorry, 00:13:12.059 --> 00:13:13.559 guys. I didn't mean to yawn on you. Oh, yeah, 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.340 you were saying hi, so I stopped to listen to 00:13:16.340 --> 00:13:20.039 what you were going to say, too. I know I, like, 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:23.279 spoke, and then it was like, boom, yawn. Yeah, 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:25.659 no, and then to make my weekend even longer, 00:13:25.740 --> 00:13:27.840 I had a massive feed spill in the brooder the 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:32.399 day before Baby Birds came. Yeah, that was bad. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:37.500 Lots of clean up on that one. Like seven tons 00:13:37.500 --> 00:13:39.379 of feed. Well, the problem is I can't open the 00:13:39.379 --> 00:13:41.700 doors with baby birds in there. Yeah. So I've 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:45.879 just got to keep them out of the feed. Oh, yeah. 00:13:45.899 --> 00:13:51.720 That sounds fun. Because it's too cold to open 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:55.720 the doors or I can make them sick. Yeah. I was 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:58.059 hoping Thursday we were supposed to see 60s, 00:13:58.059 --> 00:14:01.299 and then now it's like high of 40s. Yeah. Yeah. 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:07.000 Yeah, the UP's getting hammered. Oh, yeah. Dude, 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:10.740 Marquette is wild. Yep. Because they had almost 00:14:10.740 --> 00:14:13.340 no snow left, and then they just got hammered 00:14:13.340 --> 00:14:16.539 with, like, four or five feet. Yep. There was 00:14:16.539 --> 00:14:18.779 a plow truck. In, like, two hours. There was 00:14:18.779 --> 00:14:20.620 a plow truck that was stuck at Harbor Springs. 00:14:22.220 --> 00:14:24.679 Jesus. Yeah. That's how bad they got hit up at 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.299 the northern part of the Minton. Yeah, everyone 00:14:28.299 --> 00:14:31.000 got hit. It's, like, just, like, 45 minutes. 00:14:31.580 --> 00:14:36.220 above us, they get hit so much harder than we 00:14:36.220 --> 00:14:39.940 do. Like, all the counties is like a red stripe 00:14:39.940 --> 00:14:45.639 outage up there. Wait, so 45 minutes north of 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.960 us, so you're talking like Big Rapids area. Well, 00:14:49.059 --> 00:14:53.240 maybe a little more like Cadillac -ish. That's 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:57.000 about an hour. Us and Cadillac usually get hit 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.710 with about the same stuff. They might see a little 00:14:59.710 --> 00:15:01.549 more than we did this year, but usually we're 00:15:01.549 --> 00:15:03.789 pretty on par with Cadillac. Yeah, I mean. Now 00:15:03.789 --> 00:15:05.590 you go up Traverse City area, they get a little 00:15:05.590 --> 00:15:07.590 bit more snowfall than we do. Yeah. Yeah, when 00:15:07.590 --> 00:15:10.090 I went to Cadillac, that's where we were doing 00:15:10.090 --> 00:15:12.129 the wheeling, and it was like, holy shit, there 00:15:12.129 --> 00:15:15.909 is way more here. Well, we, that day that you 00:15:15.909 --> 00:15:18.070 were doing that, we were out in about the same 00:15:18.070 --> 00:15:19.850 depth. We were two and a half, three foot of 00:15:19.850 --> 00:15:23.549 snow. Yeah, well, I don't know. It wasn't like 00:15:23.549 --> 00:15:29.600 that in my yard, so I don't know. pretty rough 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:32.500 up there and you could tell that there's like 00:15:32.500 --> 00:15:34.820 a point on the highway where all of a sudden 00:15:34.820 --> 00:15:37.500 the snow piles on the side of the road where 00:15:37.500 --> 00:15:40.679 the plows hit them move up a good couple feet 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:44.820 and you're like oh you know the roads get crappier 00:15:44.820 --> 00:15:47.860 the the piles on the side of the road get taller 00:15:47.860 --> 00:15:52.919 it's like a band you know and then we got hit 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:55.759 with See, was that the one where we camped in 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:57.620 a snowstorm, Mark? I can't remember now. Or was 00:15:57.620 --> 00:16:01.679 that one we did in the yard? Technically, we 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:05.220 camped in two different snowstorms. Ah, so many 00:16:05.220 --> 00:16:07.279 snowstorms. Why do we camp in snowstorms? We 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:10.500 could do it more. Sounds fun, now that I have 00:16:10.500 --> 00:16:14.039 this. I think the worst one was our first time, 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:17.259 and we did not get our heating figured out that 00:16:17.259 --> 00:16:19.519 time, so we were really suffering for the most 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:23.669 part. Yeah, I'm interested to see how... this 00:16:23.669 --> 00:16:26.929 tent heat with as big as it is with a decent 00:16:26.929 --> 00:16:31.330 heater how well it will that was the one where 00:16:31.330 --> 00:16:34.309 it was like it's negative 20 or whatever and 00:16:34.309 --> 00:16:37.529 you went inside yeah oh no dude i was chilling 00:16:37.529 --> 00:16:40.509 i woke up sweating my ass off that night open 00:16:40.509 --> 00:16:43.570 up my sleeping bag and was like oh fuck i can't 00:16:43.570 --> 00:16:47.230 do your swag holds better than my fucking tent 00:16:47.230 --> 00:16:50.490 so yeah the materials like i said i was fine 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.659 I was fine until I rolled just right and let 00:16:53.659 --> 00:16:55.820 all the cold air into my sleeping bag and I couldn't 00:16:55.820 --> 00:17:00.559 get back. Yeah, for me, I even had the window 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.019 open that night. For me, it wasn't even the heat 00:17:03.019 --> 00:17:06.099 in the tent. It was the heat in my, because I 00:17:06.099 --> 00:17:09.279 had two wool blankets on me, my winter sleeping 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:16.299 bag, and my down quilt. Isn't that the night 00:17:16.299 --> 00:17:20.220 that we, the diesel went out too? Yeah, it is. 00:17:21.990 --> 00:17:27.589 Yeah. Yeah, because mine went out too. Yeah, 00:17:27.710 --> 00:17:31.150 that's the one where we tried to keep all three 00:17:31.150 --> 00:17:34.069 with one diesel heater and it did not work. No. 00:17:34.950 --> 00:17:37.829 It pulled the warm air out of mine and just blew 00:17:37.829 --> 00:17:43.609 a mix of cold and warm into theirs. Yeah. Yeah, 00:17:43.650 --> 00:17:50.630 I'm really hoping it works with the one. I might. 00:17:51.930 --> 00:17:54.289 No, I can't. I was going to say, maybe I could 00:17:54.289 --> 00:17:57.150 just set the diesel heater inside the tent and 00:17:57.150 --> 00:18:01.650 just have the exhaust go out the port, but I'd 00:18:01.650 --> 00:18:07.410 melt it. But I think it'll be fine. I think you'll 00:18:07.410 --> 00:18:11.970 be fine, dude. I mean, we heated the canopy by 00:18:11.970 --> 00:18:14.410 putting the diesel heater in it, and it did okay. 00:18:15.369 --> 00:18:17.450 The only reason it didn't do better is that that 00:18:17.450 --> 00:18:20.019 thing doesn't retain heat at all. Right. Yeah, 00:18:20.059 --> 00:18:23.700 we had the open bottom. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Were 00:18:23.700 --> 00:18:28.380 you just bare floor, too? Yeah. Yeah. Thankfully, 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:31.660 that came with the floor Velcroed already, because 00:18:31.660 --> 00:18:34.799 I was kind of dreading that part, like Velcroing 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.960 the whole floor in. Yeah. Because it's kind of 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:42.920 a pain in the ass. I think that first time when 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:44.980 we did it, that second night, us on COTS kind 00:18:44.980 --> 00:18:48.119 of saved it a little bit for us. Heat retention 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:49.980 -wise. Yeah, it took you off the floor a little. 00:18:51.019 --> 00:18:55.680 Oh, yeah. Well, it put three of us in one space, 00:18:55.859 --> 00:18:58.079 so we had our body heat and the diesel heater. 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:02.140 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be interesting 00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:04.539 to see. I was going to try it here when we had 00:19:04.539 --> 00:19:08.960 all this snow piling up here, and then I forgot 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:11.319 that Sienna has a truck, which has the diesel 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.400 heater and everything else in it. So I was like, 00:19:14.420 --> 00:19:18.799 eh, well, screwed. So we went down to one vehicle, 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:24.619 and now Santa drives my truck to work, which 00:19:24.619 --> 00:19:27.799 means I don't have any of my cool stuff to play 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:30.460 with when it is warm out. But I was going to 00:19:30.460 --> 00:19:35.140 do a video with me and the boy out there in the 00:19:35.140 --> 00:19:38.200 tent with the diesel heater and stuff, and it 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:39.640 was just one of those things where it's like, 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:43.079 well, can't do that now. You just got to make 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:44.799 sure you get the stuff you need for your video 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.900 out the night before. Yeah, and I didn't even 00:19:47.900 --> 00:19:49.940 think about it. I just got a bug up my ass after 00:19:49.940 --> 00:19:51.660 seeing that I was starting to get some views, 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.940 and I'm like, oh, maybe I should do another one 00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:59.259 real quick. But it's all good. Maybe I'll do 00:19:59.259 --> 00:20:03.660 one this weekend. No, I think as long as you 00:20:03.660 --> 00:20:06.299 got, like, there's no open mesh on your tent, 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:08.160 it's pretty much sealed off for the most part 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.900 unless you open it. Mm -hmm. I think you should 00:20:11.900 --> 00:20:15.440 be fine with a diesel heater. Yeah. I know it's 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.599 slightly bigger than what me and Alan had, but 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:24.380 we are pretty much, our winter kit just pretty 00:20:24.380 --> 00:20:28.240 much has a layer that blocks off the mesh. Yeah. 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:31.980 So that's pretty much what brings heat. All the 00:20:31.980 --> 00:20:34.920 windows zip up and everything, so it should be 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:37.740 fine. I mean, it seals completely, plus with 00:20:37.740 --> 00:20:41.440 the rain fly on. That would help retain any heat 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.819 that might escape. I mean, always shove quilts 00:20:45.819 --> 00:20:47.819 between the rainfly and the tent, too. That'll 00:20:47.819 --> 00:20:51.579 help. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. No, I think it'll 00:20:51.579 --> 00:20:55.420 be good. I mean, for what we paid for it, it 00:20:55.420 --> 00:20:58.160 should be good. It better be good. It better 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:01.000 be good. You'll be hearing a very different review 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:04.039 if it's not a good four -season tent with a diesel 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:10.579 heater. That you paid. $900. Yeah. That's the 00:21:10.579 --> 00:21:13.819 most expensive ground tent I've ever bought, 00:21:13.940 --> 00:21:23.240 hands down, by like $600, $500. That's a lot. 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.460 Yeah. When I bought the swag, that was my thing. 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.519 I'm like, man, this is the most expensive ground 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:31.539 tent I've ever bought. Yeah. You ever feel like 00:21:31.539 --> 00:21:33.319 you're starting to get into that range where 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.779 people see your gear and they're like, oh, it 00:21:35.779 --> 00:21:41.519 must be nice. You ever get to that? I don't know. 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.400 Am I there? I think people starting out would 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:49.079 see our setups and go, oh, yeah, it must be nice 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:52.720 to have all that money. You know what I mean? 00:21:52.859 --> 00:21:57.180 You have a full Milwaukee setup, a nice 4Runner, 00:21:58.099 --> 00:22:00.380 a good lift. And, yeah, yeah, I know you're having 00:22:00.380 --> 00:22:03.799 issues with it. But to the outside view, you 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:10.859 have a nice 4Runner. You long travel, good camp 00:22:10.859 --> 00:22:15.160 setup. You pair all that into a package of what 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.339 you've spent and stuff and show that to a new 00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:20.740 person, and they'll be like, yeah, man, that 00:22:20.740 --> 00:22:25.859 sucks. You know what I'm saying? Maybe. I think 00:22:25.859 --> 00:22:28.519 we're in a different bracket now. I think we're 00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:31.640 at a different level than what we started. I 00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:35.619 mean, obviously a little bit, but even with Mark's 00:22:35.619 --> 00:22:39.339 truck. He's got a solid truck. He's got a solid 00:22:39.339 --> 00:22:43.200 setup. The Light Fighter, we all pack up and 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:46.200 get to camp and do our thing really quickly. 00:22:47.140 --> 00:22:51.559 There's no fumbling around with what to do. You 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.940 know what I mean? I don't know. We've hit a groove. 00:22:55.160 --> 00:23:00.039 We've hit a different level of it. I would look 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:06.569 at myself now as a new camper. If I looked at 00:23:06.569 --> 00:23:11.990 myself three years ago with the Ozark Trail stove 00:23:11.990 --> 00:23:17.650 kit that costs $17 with a tin pan and you just 00:23:17.650 --> 00:23:20.269 put it on a small burner, that was all I had 00:23:20.269 --> 00:23:24.349 for cooking. If I looked at that, myself then, 00:23:24.430 --> 00:23:26.329 and looked at what I have now, I'd be like, damn, 00:23:26.589 --> 00:23:33.490 you hit it big, dude. I don't know. We're doing 00:23:33.490 --> 00:23:38.049 well. right like yeah yeah we're doing well i 00:23:38.049 --> 00:23:40.049 don't know man that's that's what i use to keep 00:23:40.049 --> 00:23:42.109 the perspective if i ever get down on things 00:23:42.109 --> 00:23:44.730 like dude i got a damn near a thousand dollar 00:23:44.730 --> 00:23:49.630 tent now um i got a diesel heater like i have 00:23:49.630 --> 00:23:53.170 expensive stove expensive fridge expensive uh 00:23:53.170 --> 00:23:58.490 like kitchen sets and power and like i figured 00:23:58.490 --> 00:24:01.009 out how to wire a little bit so like i have a 00:24:01.009 --> 00:24:05.799 spare battery and lighting and a winch and like 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:10.140 moved up a lot in the last three years if that 00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:13.819 i'd say the last year dude all of our setups 00:24:13.819 --> 00:24:17.099 this last year of oh yeah it's ridiculous it's 00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:19.240 kind of it's kind of hard until you look back 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.759 like i was looking back at google photos today 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:25.519 and i'm like god dang dude in the two years that 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.980 we've had the kid it's actually been two years 00:24:27.980 --> 00:24:31.339 because my truck was stock when i got jasper 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:37.579 So in that time, I have gotten a lift, a winch, 00:24:37.579 --> 00:24:40.599 a winch bumper, the whole back redone, fridge, 00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:44.640 all the stuff that I have now. That's a lot of 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.640 money, dude. I look at just the last year. The 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:52.980 last year I've done, did long travel. Yeah. Roof 00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:57.779 rack. Yeah, roof rack was a big one. Swag was 00:24:57.779 --> 00:25:01.279 this year. Most of the pack out was this year. 00:25:02.149 --> 00:25:04.430 Yeah, I forgot about the roof rack, but yeah, 00:25:04.490 --> 00:25:07.250 roof rack was $1 ,000. Like, that ain't no joke. 00:25:08.710 --> 00:25:14.089 Mine was $250. Right. Hey, I love mine. I still 00:25:14.089 --> 00:25:16.250 think it's worth it compared to the old one, 00:25:16.329 --> 00:25:20.329 but that was not a small purchase for me. And 00:25:20.329 --> 00:25:22.650 it's taken a long time to get to these, too. 00:25:22.750 --> 00:25:26.269 Like, people would look at our setup now and 00:25:26.269 --> 00:25:29.589 be like, yeah, you know, you're loaded. I was 00:25:29.589 --> 00:25:32.869 like, no. It took two years to get all this stuff. 00:25:33.450 --> 00:25:37.990 Nothing about what we have took a day to get. 00:25:38.670 --> 00:25:44.549 It took a lot of sacrifices, too. There was definitely 00:25:44.549 --> 00:25:48.690 times where we were eating corn out of a can 00:25:48.690 --> 00:25:53.170 and hot dogs for dinner. What are you talking 00:25:53.170 --> 00:25:55.470 about? You don't eat hot dogs. I love hot dogs. 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.400 You guys are too fancy for that. Yeah, yeah. 00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:02.720 We have these gourmet meals. Yeah. No, I'm just 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.819 saying. We've done good. We've came really far. 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:10.839 If our past selves looked back at us, they would 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:16.019 be proud. All of us. They would be envious. You 00:26:16.019 --> 00:26:20.259 guys ready to move on over to the hour? Yeah. 00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:24.589 Yeah. Yeah. Kudos to us, guys. Cheers. Chink. 00:26:24.650 --> 00:26:26.809 Hell yeah. Cheers to us. Yep.