WEBVTT 00:00:15.699 --> 00:00:19.699 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Yeah, guys, we 00:00:19.699 --> 00:00:21.519 got some voicemails in response to our radio 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:25.879 chatter stuff. Yay, voicemails. Thank God, because 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:28.460 we had no content for today, and these guys be 00:00:28.460 --> 00:00:33.100 saving our asses. Yeah. All three are from the 00:00:33.100 --> 00:00:40.939 same person. Oh, good. So is this Wreck -It Rob? 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:44.659 Yeah, this is Wreck -It Rob. Okay, because we're 00:00:44.659 --> 00:00:48.780 looking at pictures of the vehicles he sent us, 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:55.920 like about 10 of them. Yeah. And they're pretty 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:59.700 sick, all of them. So I'll go ahead and play 00:00:59.700 --> 00:01:01.159 this first one. I've got to make sure I play 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:05.140 these in order. All right, 405, 409, 431. So, 00:01:05.140 --> 00:01:08.379 all right, got it. And here's the first one. 00:01:10.739 --> 00:01:13.500 All right. Just long bed, short bed conversation. 00:01:13.819 --> 00:01:15.840 It irritates the hell out of me. It's Wreck -It 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:21.400 -Rod, by the way. I own four trucks. Two of them 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:24.099 are short bed. Two of them are long bed. One 00:01:24.099 --> 00:01:26.560 of them is a flat bed. I own three trailers. 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:32.420 Two juice mechs. One car trailer. I have my fancy 00:01:32.420 --> 00:01:39.400 family truck on two sprag wheels. And it's sitting 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:46.060 on an 8 -inch lift. Without rubber bands. Also, 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:48.359 going right along with you guys' tire conversation 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.739 on the last episode, I can't stand loud tires 00:01:51.739 --> 00:01:53.920 anymore. I guess in my old age, I don't like 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.959 loud tires. Loud tires belong on my off -road 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.900 rigs. So, I bought RCs. Something you guys might 00:02:02.900 --> 00:02:05.659 want to listen to. It's like median between a 00:02:05.659 --> 00:02:11.039 mud tire and an all -terrain tire. Back to the 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:15.020 long bed, short bed. I hate when I take my short 00:02:15.020 --> 00:02:17.620 bed truck somewhere and I got to pick something 00:02:17.620 --> 00:02:19.719 up and I realize I should have picked the long 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:24.219 bed. And that happens more often than not. The 00:02:24.219 --> 00:02:26.419 only people that will complain about a long bed 00:02:26.419 --> 00:02:29.919 are Toyota people. Because there's no such thing. 00:02:30.180 --> 00:02:33.800 Even the long bed, the short bed. Stop complaining. 00:02:34.939 --> 00:02:36.879 Complaining about a long bed because you don't 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:39.490 own one and you don't think you need one. because 00:02:39.490 --> 00:02:41.849 you don't want to spend the money to buy one. 00:02:46.349 --> 00:02:48.949 My short beds come in handy when I go and do 00:02:48.949 --> 00:02:53.030 family things or the wife takes it grocery shopping 00:02:53.030 --> 00:02:57.389 or whatever. There's never a point in time where 00:02:57.389 --> 00:02:59.870 I'm like, damn it, I should have took the short 00:02:59.870 --> 00:03:04.870 bed instead of the long bed. What a loser. The 00:03:04.870 --> 00:03:08.090 long bed's also my recovery rig. As I run up 00:03:08.090 --> 00:03:11.409 and do recoveries, when people get stuck up in 00:03:11.409 --> 00:03:13.710 the hills by my house, I don't take the short 00:03:13.710 --> 00:03:20.409 meds. Both of my, one of my short meds and both 00:03:20.409 --> 00:03:22.930 of my long meds have the gooseneck hitch in the 00:03:22.930 --> 00:03:26.750 bed. Doesn't matter which one of those I go with. 00:03:26.909 --> 00:03:29.270 If I want more comfort and heated seats and I 00:03:29.270 --> 00:03:32.330 want to be a B -bag, I take the fancy truck. 00:03:32.710 --> 00:03:36.789 And if I want to... Go out into the woods and 00:03:36.789 --> 00:03:41.270 not worry about the truck. And I take the long 00:03:41.270 --> 00:03:44.009 bed with the gooseneck behind it. It really doesn't 00:03:44.009 --> 00:03:46.849 matter. I don't care. I just prefer my long bed. 00:03:47.069 --> 00:03:51.189 My wife prefers the short bed. And she prefers 00:03:51.189 --> 00:03:55.430 the, you know, D -bed truck because it's bougie. 00:03:57.349 --> 00:04:01.849 So, yeah. Watch who you're calling the D -bed. 00:04:07.779 --> 00:04:17.300 Otherwise, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gavin's muted. Oh, 00:04:17.379 --> 00:04:21.019 I'm sorry. Yeah, like, did I call someone a D 00:04:21.019 --> 00:04:24.279 -bag? I think I might have when I was messing 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:27.279 around. I don't know. I talk shit so much, I 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:28.720 don't even know what came out of my mouth half 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:30.759 the time. Yeah, I mean, like, you got a point. 00:04:30.860 --> 00:04:33.990 Like, nobody's ever said, like, Man, I wish I 00:04:33.990 --> 00:04:38.149 brought my short bed. I get that. Like, I think 00:04:38.149 --> 00:04:41.689 that there's just, like, like, wheeling, like, 00:04:41.769 --> 00:04:44.389 in the woods and stuff like we do, like, short 00:04:44.389 --> 00:04:48.310 beds would be better. I wheeled a crew cab long 00:04:48.310 --> 00:04:51.810 bed for it for years. Yeah, but, like, there's 00:04:51.810 --> 00:04:53.970 some turns and stuff that we've done and sharp 00:04:53.970 --> 00:04:56.569 turns that you're like, yes, a short bed would 00:04:56.569 --> 00:04:58.970 have been better. I'm not saying they're bad. 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.079 I'm just saying the turn radius on it would have 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:06.699 been better for the tighter turns. At this point, 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:08.740 everyone's in denial because that's a scientific 00:05:08.740 --> 00:05:12.600 fact that a short bed would do better on sharper 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.720 turns. I don't mind taking three or four turns 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.300 to make one turn. That's not what I'm saying. 00:05:18.579 --> 00:05:23.639 I'm saying that it would do better. I agree. 00:05:24.819 --> 00:05:29.990 Short bed, a real short bed. Like, no, a real 00:05:29.990 --> 00:05:34.689 long bed is worse than a Toyota long bed on turns. 00:05:35.189 --> 00:05:37.430 I think it also... Oh, you know what? I think 00:05:37.430 --> 00:05:40.009 it was when we were... What's up? I was about 00:05:40.009 --> 00:05:42.730 to say, it depends on your truck setup because 00:05:42.730 --> 00:05:47.129 we have a work truck that's a quad cab long bed. 00:05:47.230 --> 00:05:49.329 Like, I think it's, like, even longer than any 00:05:49.329 --> 00:05:51.990 of the long beds we have at work. And that thing 00:05:51.990 --> 00:05:55.610 turns like there's no tomorrow. It takes forever 00:05:55.610 --> 00:06:00.930 to turn it. I mean, as long as it can be like 00:06:00.930 --> 00:06:03.550 an eight -foot bed. I think it's like an eight 00:06:03.550 --> 00:06:08.550 -foot bed. Yeah, that's a long bed. An eight 00:06:08.550 --> 00:06:11.029 -foot bed is a long bed. Right. A six -foot bed 00:06:11.029 --> 00:06:13.189 is a short bed. Anything shorter than a six -foot 00:06:13.189 --> 00:06:16.329 bed is bullshit. Yeah, I mean, like I said, I 00:06:16.329 --> 00:06:21.050 guess my argument is, like, an extended cab long 00:06:21.050 --> 00:06:24.610 bed would have a tougher time in a tight trail 00:06:24.610 --> 00:06:33.209 turning. than Mark's Tacoma. Yeah. That's all 00:06:33.209 --> 00:06:35.970 I was saying. Everyone's like, well, I could 00:06:35.970 --> 00:06:38.569 do three turns. I'd still be fine. Yeah, you 00:06:38.569 --> 00:06:42.470 could be fine. I get it. People still wheel full 00:06:42.470 --> 00:06:44.110 -size trucks. I wouldn't disagree with you. I'm 00:06:44.110 --> 00:06:45.610 just saying I prefer a long bed. You're going 00:06:45.610 --> 00:06:48.790 to sound like it. I just prefer a long bed. And 00:06:48.790 --> 00:06:52.709 that's fine. I'm just saying, like... It is a 00:06:52.709 --> 00:06:56.149 clear fact, and this is why full -size trucks 00:06:56.149 --> 00:06:59.470 aren't wheeled anywhere near as much as the smaller 00:06:59.470 --> 00:07:03.670 wheelbases. There are full -size. I'm not saying 00:07:03.670 --> 00:07:06.129 there isn't. I'm just saying. Yeah. No, you're 00:07:06.129 --> 00:07:08.870 right. All right. Let's get on to his next one. 00:07:09.230 --> 00:07:13.209 Oh, which starts with, damn, I got cut off. Damn 00:07:13.209 --> 00:07:17.589 it, I got cut off. Break it, Rob, again. Yeah, 00:07:18.910 --> 00:07:21.139 I don't know if you can tell, though. Being called 00:07:21.139 --> 00:07:24.579 a D -bag because I have 20 -inch wheels is irritating. 00:07:28.060 --> 00:07:32.319 On top of that, the argument on the whole parking 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.519 garage thing, I don't own a truck that fits in 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.660 a parking garage. All my trucks are too tall 00:07:36.660 --> 00:07:40.800 for that. So I don't have that problem. Anyway. 00:07:44.259 --> 00:07:47.519 I'll talk to you guys later. Thanks for the high 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:56.620 blood pressure. I'm out. Hey, anything for you, 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.720 Rob. Anything for you. I guess one of us did 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:02.379 call him a D -bag. I don't think 20 -inch wheels 00:08:02.379 --> 00:08:04.920 are D -bags. Anything bigger than that? Oh, you 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:08.279 know, that might have been me, actually. Because 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.839 I was talking about some guy with, like, 20 -inch 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:16.439 rims. Okay. But, yeah, not exactly what I meant. 00:08:16.939 --> 00:08:19.360 The bigger question, though, when you refer to 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:23.629 that. Does it have zero rubber or a little bit 00:08:23.629 --> 00:08:26.910 of rubber? Yeah, like, are we talking rubber 00:08:26.910 --> 00:08:31.790 bands? See, my issue is stretch tires on trucks. 00:08:33.309 --> 00:08:37.730 And it's not that all people that drive stretch 00:08:37.730 --> 00:08:42.889 rubber trucks are D -bags. The majority are. 00:08:43.169 --> 00:08:45.509 Let's be honest. The majority of stretch rubber 00:08:45.509 --> 00:08:48.389 trucks, they tend to be kind of... Their name 00:08:48.389 --> 00:08:50.929 is probably Kyle and they're drinking a monster 00:08:50.929 --> 00:08:53.850 with polarized sunglasses on. It may or may not 00:08:53.850 --> 00:09:00.269 be Carolina squatted. Yeah. 20 inch chromes. 00:09:00.289 --> 00:09:02.389 They beat their girlfriend if the girlfriend 00:09:02.389 --> 00:09:05.909 gets curb rash on them. I wouldn't say 20 inch. 00:09:05.970 --> 00:09:10.809 I'd say more like 24. They're bigger than 20s 00:09:10.809 --> 00:09:16.710 now. It would require stretch rubber because 00:09:16.710 --> 00:09:19.299 you could have Like, there's dualies that have 00:09:19.299 --> 00:09:22.860 massive wheels, and those guys, they tend to 00:09:22.860 --> 00:09:26.620 not be D -bags. Yeah. But if it's, like, a lifted 00:09:26.620 --> 00:09:31.840 squatted truck with, like, 24s or 26s and stretched 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:33.440 rubber bands, yeah, they're probably D -bags. 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:35.879 I do remember this, and I'm pretty sure it was 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.519 me, of course. I said 20. And then I backpedaled 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.200 a little bit because I remembered specifically 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:49.519 that Zach... tundra owner zach uh he has 20s 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:51.580 and i'm like well oh okay those didn't look that 00:09:51.580 --> 00:09:55.120 bad so i i i kind of backpedal a little bit on 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.419 that so it's definitely bigger than that but 00:09:57.419 --> 00:10:00.700 it's it's the clear like chromey douchebag guys 00:10:00.700 --> 00:10:04.240 that like wear the flat bills backwards wear 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.539 tap out shirts and beat their girlfriends like 00:10:06.539 --> 00:10:10.379 that's those are the ones that say i'm country 00:10:10.379 --> 00:10:13.259 and then they've like never done anything in 00:10:13.259 --> 00:10:16.299 their life Like, I can look at Rob's trucks, 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:18.440 and none of them scream, I'm a D -bag. No, no. 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.879 They're all just nice -looking trucks. Yeah, 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.980 let me look again here. Let me take a gander. 00:10:24.059 --> 00:10:28.320 The Jeep's got some 24s or something. Just kidding. 00:10:28.500 --> 00:10:33.539 Those are tractor tires. I know. No, I mean, 00:10:33.620 --> 00:10:36.440 at least he didn't send us a picture of the one 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:39.500 he, or me, I guess, accidentally called douchey, 00:10:39.500 --> 00:10:43.700 but I rescind my statement, Rob. I think you're 00:10:43.700 --> 00:10:45.840 very cool, and I'm sorry about your blood pressure. 00:10:46.419 --> 00:10:49.259 I think he's talking about the crew cab power 00:10:49.259 --> 00:10:51.840 stroke on, I don't know, I guess that other power 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:53.639 stroke also has bigger wings. Yeah, the white 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:57.179 one. But none of them look douchey. Oh, that 00:10:57.179 --> 00:11:01.799 second white one? Yeah. Yeah. I might have to 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:04.750 screenshot this and zoom in on it more. That 00:11:04.750 --> 00:11:06.289 kind of looks like 20s, but it doesn't look like 00:11:06.289 --> 00:11:10.149 a douchey truck. There's a tell, right? You can 00:11:10.149 --> 00:11:12.190 look at a truck and tell, that guy's probably 00:11:12.190 --> 00:11:14.629 someone I'm going to hate. But Rob doesn't have 00:11:14.629 --> 00:11:18.789 any of those. So we're sorry, Rob. Someone misspoke. 00:11:19.269 --> 00:11:24.570 I misspoke. Hey, I admitted to it. Alright, I'll 00:11:24.570 --> 00:11:28.409 play his last one here. Alright, I think we're 00:11:28.409 --> 00:11:29.929 going to call this the Wreck -It Rob -isode. 00:11:30.870 --> 00:11:35.080 The worst thing I've bought. for off -roading 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:43.860 that makes me the most angry is I bought 46 -inch 00:11:43.860 --> 00:11:50.600 Mickey Thompson Baja Paws. And I wish I hadn't 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:55.720 got rid of my IROC to buy them. They're too big. 00:11:56.259 --> 00:11:58.840 They cake up a lot. They're not great for mud. 00:11:58.940 --> 00:12:03.529 They're awesome for crawling. I'm not an overlander, 00:12:03.549 --> 00:12:08.309 so I don't have a bunch of random equipment in 00:12:08.309 --> 00:12:17.409 my truck or my cab over. I don't sleep in negative 00:12:17.409 --> 00:12:19.970 degree temperatures like you guys do up there. 00:12:20.009 --> 00:12:22.470 I'm in California. Even in the dead of winter, 00:12:22.690 --> 00:12:26.649 I can get a zero degree bag in a Walmart tent. 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.379 The pin might suck, but it still doesn't hurt 00:12:31.379 --> 00:12:34.320 me as much as I shouldn't have bought those 46s. 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.059 You guys love ugly cars. What's your favorite 00:12:42.059 --> 00:12:48.620 ugly car? My favorite ugly car is the Agtech. 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.899 I think it would be pretty cool to have for me 00:12:51.899 --> 00:12:54.000 and the wife to go get the hell away from the 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.899 kids and go out on a camping trip on our own. 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.379 She told me it's dumb for me to purchase because 00:13:00.379 --> 00:13:02.159 we already have a truck and a cab over Tampa, 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:06.740 but I think it'd be cool. And my favorite ugly 00:13:06.740 --> 00:13:12.600 truck is the early 60s unibody Ford Pickup. They're 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.980 super ugly, but I'd rather own one of those than 00:13:15.980 --> 00:13:22.620 a Ranchero or El Camino. There was something 00:13:22.620 --> 00:13:24.559 else I was going to say, too. I think this will 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.720 be the last time I call. But who knows? I'm still 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:30.149 listening. So something else might irritate me 00:13:30.149 --> 00:13:34.529 and I'll call again. Oh, hey, what do you guys 00:13:34.529 --> 00:13:37.330 see as the difference between glamping and camping? 00:13:37.649 --> 00:13:40.590 Let's start this on your podcast. Come on, everybody 00:13:40.590 --> 00:13:46.009 call in. Tell them what you feel the difference 00:13:46.009 --> 00:13:50.149 is between glamping and camping. Personally, 00:13:50.330 --> 00:13:52.429 my difference is if the wife is doing it with 00:13:52.429 --> 00:13:55.230 me or not. That's my difference between glamping 00:13:55.230 --> 00:13:58.580 and camping. They'll sleep out under the stars 00:13:58.580 --> 00:14:02.320 in a sleeping bag on my trailer. And if she goes, 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.980 I have to bring the cab over, and we have to 00:14:04.980 --> 00:14:07.840 have everything to cook a four -course meal, 00:14:08.100 --> 00:14:10.860 and we have to have stuff for lunch. I don't 00:14:10.860 --> 00:14:12.879 even eat lunch when I go wheeling. I come back 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:19.639 and have a beer. All right, guys. I'll call in 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:23.620 next time I listen to another podcast. Until 00:14:23.620 --> 00:14:33.820 then, I'm out. Thank you, Wreck -It Rob. Let's 00:14:33.820 --> 00:14:36.259 not start the camping versus glamping conversation 00:14:36.259 --> 00:14:39.500 over here. That can stay on Snail Trail. No, 00:14:39.500 --> 00:14:45.159 no. No, I agree. If my wife didn't come, yeah, 00:14:45.220 --> 00:14:47.139 that would be the difference. I mean, like, if 00:14:47.139 --> 00:14:48.940 my wife never came camping with me, I wouldn't 00:14:48.940 --> 00:14:55.320 have 80 % of the shit that I do now. But if I'm 00:14:55.320 --> 00:15:00.730 being honest. Comfort -wise, I enjoy the extra 00:15:00.730 --> 00:15:06.909 stuff more. Like, I am more comfortable with... 00:15:06.909 --> 00:15:11.450 Happy, maybe? I don't know. I don't know happy. 00:15:12.070 --> 00:15:14.509 Because I'm just as stressed doing all this extra 00:15:14.509 --> 00:15:18.110 stuff. But, like, I don't know. It's a different 00:15:18.110 --> 00:15:20.289 side of it. It's like two sides of a coin, I 00:15:20.289 --> 00:15:23.710 guess. Yeah, if my wife didn't go with me, I 00:15:23.710 --> 00:15:26.610 would pull up in my truck, put down my... driver's 00:15:26.610 --> 00:15:29.590 seat and go to sleep like yeah yeah yeah like 00:15:29.590 --> 00:15:32.129 i would sleep in my truck i probably wouldn't 00:15:32.129 --> 00:15:34.250 even have a 10 i'd just put my seats down if 00:15:34.250 --> 00:15:35.929 i didn't have my wife and son with me but like 00:15:35.929 --> 00:15:39.210 my uh my camping setup when i lived in arizona 00:15:39.210 --> 00:15:43.110 was literally a couple of pvc poles over my truck 00:15:43.110 --> 00:15:47.409 bed and a tarp yeah like so yeah i mean to in 00:15:47.409 --> 00:15:50.750 a way yeah there is there is there is a stretch 00:15:50.750 --> 00:15:54.659 that we make To make it more comfortable for 00:15:54.659 --> 00:15:56.320 our significant others, especially when it's 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.940 not like their passion. Like, it's not Sienna's 00:15:59.940 --> 00:16:03.379 passion. Like, she likes it. But she doesn't, 00:16:03.379 --> 00:16:06.519 like, sleep it. She doesn't, like, dream about 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.019 it. Like, I dream about it, get up, watch videos 00:16:10.019 --> 00:16:12.639 about it. You know, research stuff about it. 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:16.820 And she's just like, okay, yeah, let's go. Whatever. 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:20.139 I'm just here for the ride. So, yeah, like, she 00:16:20.139 --> 00:16:24.179 wants to have decent meals and to be comfortable, 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.240 and I don't know why, but she wants to be warm. 00:16:28.620 --> 00:16:31.820 Yeah, warm's overrated. Wow. Yeah, just wow. 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:37.340 But, yeah, I mean, I think, I don't know, man. 00:16:38.019 --> 00:16:40.740 Is glamping when you start adding, like, a sink 00:16:40.740 --> 00:16:45.320 inside of your, like, a built -in sink? No, we're 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:49.549 not bringing this. It has been beat. To death 00:16:49.549 --> 00:16:52.169 on snail trail. Almost as bad as trail ratings 00:16:52.169 --> 00:16:56.230 at that point. Hey, but not here. And we don't 00:16:56.230 --> 00:16:59.450 ever talk about it. I think glamping is when 00:16:59.450 --> 00:17:03.509 both you and your wife or girlfriend has separate 00:17:03.509 --> 00:17:06.009 tents decked out with all the things that they 00:17:06.009 --> 00:17:12.130 need from home. Yeah. I have seen specific posts 00:17:12.130 --> 00:17:16.009 from Facebook tent campers. I think it's when 00:17:16.009 --> 00:17:21.690 you add a couch. Like, genuinely, in a tent, 00:17:21.930 --> 00:17:25.289 I think when you have a couch that you air up, 00:17:25.509 --> 00:17:29.990 I think, okay, you're glamping now. Or when you 00:17:29.990 --> 00:17:32.349 need power, when you have to hook into power. 00:17:34.390 --> 00:17:39.509 Those combinations. I think that as soon as you've 00:17:39.509 --> 00:17:44.410 got AC, you're not glamping. Up to that point? 00:17:44.529 --> 00:17:46.990 Yeah. Up to that point. Like, I don't care if 00:17:46.990 --> 00:17:50.019 you go out in an RV. If you don't got AC, you're 00:17:50.019 --> 00:17:54.480 not glamping. Yeah. Um, I don't care if, I mean, 00:17:54.500 --> 00:17:58.059 I grew up camping in a horse trailer and nine 00:17:58.059 --> 00:17:59.880 times out of 10, we didn't have AC, but man, 00:17:59.900 --> 00:18:02.019 you knew if we were going on a trip where we 00:18:02.019 --> 00:18:03.859 had power and we're going to plug into AC, we 00:18:03.859 --> 00:18:06.079 were going to be glamping it up. Yeah. Yeah. 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:09.759 Yeah. AC is valid. Like, uh, I, yeah, I think 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:12.059 I'm going to stick with mine and say, if you, 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:18.049 if you have to plug into power, what was that 00:18:18.049 --> 00:18:21.450 pod record oh okay yeah i was gonna say if you 00:18:21.450 --> 00:18:25.410 have to plug into power and you have a couch 00:18:25.410 --> 00:18:29.509 oh yeah you're i i would go if you have to plug 00:18:29.509 --> 00:18:31.849 into power actually yeah because if you make 00:18:31.849 --> 00:18:34.569 it so you're sustainable without power and you 00:18:34.569 --> 00:18:37.769 have onboard power i think that's different like 00:18:37.769 --> 00:18:39.730 if you know if you're running if you can if you 00:18:39.730 --> 00:18:42.269 have to run a generator to run your ac no no 00:18:42.269 --> 00:18:45.250 no i mean i mean onboard power like a like a 00:18:45.250 --> 00:18:47.990 house battery and stuff to like gotcha charge 00:18:47.990 --> 00:18:51.089 and like run things yeah no if you bring a generator 00:18:51.089 --> 00:18:56.049 glamping if you bring any outside source of power 00:18:56.049 --> 00:18:59.049 other than what's connected to you your vehicle 00:18:59.049 --> 00:19:03.950 or a power bank if your tent is bigger than just 00:19:03.950 --> 00:19:09.170 the size of your bed glamping shit i mean yeah 00:19:09.170 --> 00:19:11.470 i'd be okay with that at this point i'm like 00:19:11.470 --> 00:19:14.049 whatever light fighter light fighter camping 00:19:14.049 --> 00:19:17.480 sweat I guess swag I count as glamping a little 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:24.299 bit. It's pretty cushy. Yeah. T5 backcountry, 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:30.599 glamping. Glamping to hell. Especially if you're 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.240 not doing what the backcountry is made for, which 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:37.680 we're not. Are you in the middle of Colorado 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:42.279 packing out your hunt? No? Okay, then you're 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:46.799 glamping. Like in the video, they have it as 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:49.380 a base camp for hunting, like elk in the mountains. 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.480 I'm like, yeah, just going to go to like 40 miles 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:56.660 off of the main road where nobody's at and just 00:19:56.660 --> 00:19:59.319 set it up there. I mean, most of them are only 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:03.500 20 to 30 miles off the main road. So, I mean, 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:08.359 yeah, I'm sticking with the power and AC and 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:11.000 sofa thing. I think that's a done deal right 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:13.670 there. I think that's pretty solid. I think we 00:20:13.670 --> 00:20:15.609 solved it right there, and we need to call Jimmy. 00:20:17.130 --> 00:20:20.289 Put an end to it right now. I think they solved 00:20:20.289 --> 00:20:22.569 it, too. So the problem with theirs, right, is 00:20:22.569 --> 00:20:25.009 that people call in, but they get so many call 00:20:25.009 --> 00:20:27.569 -ins that it takes them sometimes two months 00:20:27.569 --> 00:20:30.089 to get to them. So they'll have it all solved, 00:20:30.230 --> 00:20:32.930 and then a month later, someone will have heard 00:20:32.930 --> 00:20:35.250 something they said and called in, and they'll 00:20:35.250 --> 00:20:37.890 get to it, and it re -sparks the entire conversation. 00:20:38.190 --> 00:20:40.269 No, I think this is pretty solid. I don't think 00:20:40.269 --> 00:20:44.170 anybody can call and be like, Well, no, I think 00:20:44.170 --> 00:20:47.809 if you have a couch and you have to be plugged 00:20:47.809 --> 00:20:51.990 in, plugged in to power and an AC, that's a triple 00:20:51.990 --> 00:20:55.609 killer. That's their three strikes. If you got 00:20:55.609 --> 00:20:59.849 power more than a flashlight clamping. Okay. 00:21:00.609 --> 00:21:04.930 I like, I could see like bringing a, like, what 00:21:04.930 --> 00:21:08.009 is that called? A triple breeze that like heats 00:21:08.009 --> 00:21:12.519 and ACs and it's hooked off of a battery. Like, 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:16.539 I could see that... No, I... No glamping. I don't 00:21:16.539 --> 00:21:19.259 know. Like, because if it's hooked on to, like, 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.200 battery power... Glamping. That's one strike. 00:21:24.140 --> 00:21:27.220 But if you have a couch, done. Two strikes, that 00:21:27.220 --> 00:21:30.079 two out of three, gone. So you have to check 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.079 off the strikes. Oh, yeah, okay, okay. I like 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:34.920 the strike method, right? We can go with that. 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.539 So three strikes. One, you have to hook up to 00:21:37.539 --> 00:21:40.039 some type of power. Yep. Whether that be the 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:41.579 battery you brought with you or not doesn't matter. 00:21:41.819 --> 00:21:43.900 No, no, no. You hook up some type of power. Two, 00:21:44.539 --> 00:21:50.940 if you have AC, strike two. Oh, no, no, no. And 00:21:50.940 --> 00:21:54.819 then the couch. No, I'm talking like state park, 00:21:55.000 --> 00:22:00.119 you have to plug in. Dude, you can glamp in the 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:02.980 woods. You can definitely glamp in the woods. 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.779 I think, like I said, if you have to have AC. 00:22:08.380 --> 00:22:12.960 And a couch lamp. If you have to have power and 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.380 AC, but you don't have a couch, it's glamping 00:22:15.380 --> 00:22:18.640 still. If one of your main reasons to go on the 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.140 trip is for Instagram content, glamping. Could 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:26.480 be. Could be. Yep. If you have more pictures 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:30.000 of your camp set up than you do of whatever you 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.140 did on that trip, glamping. That would be us 00:22:33.140 --> 00:22:37.660 then? Yeah. Hold on. As we take pictures, take 00:22:37.660 --> 00:22:40.140 pictures of us with a tarp draped over our trucks. 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:42.220 I was going to say, how many rigged pictures 00:22:42.220 --> 00:22:45.200 did I take on our camping? I took probably 300. 00:22:46.700 --> 00:22:50.079 Dude, it's so... I don't know. I think we were 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:52.440 glamping in Leatherwood, dude. Everyone else 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:54.660 was stuck in their tents. Everyone was stuck 00:22:54.660 --> 00:22:56.279 in their tents, and we were out here under a 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:00.180 tarp living it up. I think... All right, here 00:23:00.180 --> 00:23:06.150 we go. I think if your tent exceeds... The people 00:23:06.150 --> 00:23:11.789 that will be in it, by five, then you're glamping. 00:23:13.230 --> 00:23:17.569 Because you see a three -person family and a 00:23:17.569 --> 00:23:24.509 12 to 15 -person tent. It is packed full of junk. 00:23:25.170 --> 00:23:29.410 Like, here's my dresser. This is my camping dresser. 00:23:29.630 --> 00:23:33.849 Here's my full -size 11 -inch mattress. With 00:23:33.849 --> 00:23:39.349 a six -inch foam topper and full camp bedding. 00:23:39.950 --> 00:23:42.869 Me and Mark have definitely been camping in the 00:23:42.869 --> 00:23:46.289 two of us in a 12 -person tent. And I would not 00:23:46.289 --> 00:23:49.170 have counted that as glamping. I think it depends 00:23:49.170 --> 00:23:49.930 on how much was actually in there. See, that's 00:23:49.930 --> 00:23:53.710 why it's got to be a combination. Yeah. Because 00:23:53.710 --> 00:23:57.789 all we had in there was our two cots and then 00:23:57.789 --> 00:24:02.859 a table to set stuff on. Why the fuck did you 00:24:02.859 --> 00:24:06.339 take a 12 to 15 person for that? Is that all 00:24:06.339 --> 00:24:09.180 you had? Yeah, it was a $100 Walmart tent. Easy 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:11.680 setup. That's a little different, I guess. And 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.099 because we knew that we were going to end up 00:24:14.099 --> 00:24:16.539 spending quite a bit of time in there, so we 00:24:16.539 --> 00:24:18.099 wanted somewhere that we could actually play 00:24:18.099 --> 00:24:21.779 games and be comfortable. Yeah. I don't know. 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:25.119 Maybe it's how much space you fill up out of 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:29.059 that with useless junk. I mean, I would consider... 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.660 You and your wife, when we went to the botches 00:24:32.660 --> 00:24:37.039 camp the first time, and you guys had that whole 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.940 tent to yourself with a big mattress. That was 00:24:41.940 --> 00:24:46.819 glamping. The cot mattress. Who? Alex. When we 00:24:46.819 --> 00:24:49.140 did botches yearly, and me and Caitlin brought 00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:54.099 that $100 Walmart tent, and then I had the cot 00:24:54.099 --> 00:24:56.240 with the inflatable mattress on it. You were 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.450 right on the border there, buddy. Bro, we were 00:24:59.450 --> 00:25:02.089 living it up. If you would have had like a fan 00:25:02.089 --> 00:25:04.569 in there. If we had a diesel heater. If we had 00:25:04.569 --> 00:25:10.089 a diesel heater that year. So what is it, like 00:25:10.089 --> 00:25:13.029 full -size cot now? If you have a 12 -person 00:25:13.029 --> 00:25:17.569 and a full -size bed. Yeah. And a table and chairs. 00:25:17.569 --> 00:25:21.849 That's raised more than six inches off the ground. 00:25:21.890 --> 00:25:24.589 It's glamping. You know, when we go to Turkey 00:25:24.589 --> 00:25:26.950 Run, I might take the, instead of taking the 00:25:26.950 --> 00:25:29.670 swag, I might take the $100 Walmart tent and 00:25:29.670 --> 00:25:34.769 my queen -size bed. Is it a base camp style? 00:25:35.890 --> 00:25:40.049 It's only base camp. It's like, I paid $160 for 00:25:40.049 --> 00:25:44.410 a campsite. Holy shit. For three nights. Yeah, 00:25:44.529 --> 00:25:49.029 dude. Fucking terrible. But I might take the 00:25:49.029 --> 00:25:53.250 $100 Walmart tent and my queen -size bed. How 00:25:53.250 --> 00:25:57.690 well does a queen -size bed fit in your T5? Probably 00:25:57.690 --> 00:26:00.789 pretty damn well, actually. Come over to your 00:26:00.789 --> 00:26:05.130 tent for... Not that I don't trust you, but that's 00:26:05.130 --> 00:26:09.710 scary. I'm just kidding. Imagine he comes back 00:26:09.710 --> 00:26:11.369 and he goes, I don't know what happened, dude. 00:26:11.410 --> 00:26:13.009 I was just driving on the side of the highway. 00:26:13.190 --> 00:26:17.789 I heard a thump, and tent's gone. I don't know 00:26:17.789 --> 00:26:24.690 where I went. I would cry. Absolutely. And I 00:26:24.690 --> 00:26:26.609 can't say that it has never happened because 00:26:26.609 --> 00:26:30.750 he's lost bigger coming from Leatherwood. I mean, 00:26:30.769 --> 00:26:34.289 going to Leatherwood. Like a whole spare tire 00:26:34.289 --> 00:26:36.170 carrier. No, that's part of your group. That 00:26:36.170 --> 00:26:38.250 was not me. Part of your group? Nope. It counts. 00:26:38.529 --> 00:26:41.450 I was in the front. You said the welds were good. 00:26:41.549 --> 00:26:46.930 I was telling him. Yeah, you said. I questioned 00:26:46.930 --> 00:26:52.630 it. Guilty. I questioned it. I marked it with 00:26:52.630 --> 00:26:57.710 the white chalk. Oh, my gosh. I gave it the QC 00:26:57.710 --> 00:27:01.990 -assured sticker. Quality -assured, yep. Damn. 00:27:02.029 --> 00:27:04.069 No, that was more of a, I want to be done with 00:27:04.069 --> 00:27:06.869 this shit. Yeah. Well, look at now. You're done 00:27:06.869 --> 00:27:09.910 with it now. We ain't got no spare tire on the 00:27:09.910 --> 00:27:15.230 trailer no more. No more. Damn. Yeah, I'm going 00:27:15.230 --> 00:27:18.849 to stick with my three boxes on that one. I think 00:27:18.849 --> 00:27:22.630 plug -in power is pretty... pretty solid like 00:27:22.630 --> 00:27:29.269 i do i do have the want to get a uh a base style 00:27:29.269 --> 00:27:32.890 tent to have because i mean i love the swag but 00:27:32.890 --> 00:27:35.430 it'd be nice if we're doing a campsite the same 00:27:35.430 --> 00:27:38.849 campsite for like three days to not have to lug 00:27:38.849 --> 00:27:41.289 that thing around yeah and have a little more 00:27:41.289 --> 00:27:44.930 space yeah so when we did kids camp last year 00:27:44.930 --> 00:27:49.410 we stayed there for five days and Dude, five 00:27:49.410 --> 00:27:52.930 days would be perfect for a nice, large base 00:27:52.930 --> 00:27:58.670 camp -style tent. I'd like to get a 270 awning 00:27:58.670 --> 00:28:01.390 that I can drape off the side of the truck and 00:28:01.390 --> 00:28:06.329 have it just barely come over the tent so I have 00:28:06.329 --> 00:28:09.390 a pretty much covered walkway. Maybe that's glamping. 00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:11.230 I don't know, but I think that would be really 00:28:11.230 --> 00:28:15.339 dope. Yeah, I am not the big, I have issues with 00:28:15.339 --> 00:28:16.900 awnings. It's not even the awnings themselves 00:28:16.900 --> 00:28:20.359 are bad. It's just that I feel like I would break 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.079 one and that's a lot of money for something that 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.220 I know I'm going to probably break. Yeah. Very 00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:30.980 fair. Kind of my issue with rooftop pants too. 00:28:31.059 --> 00:28:32.579 It's not that they're bad. I think they're amazing. 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:37.160 Um, the stuff I do, I would break one and I don't 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.460 think I'd be as comfortable as I am on the ground 00:28:39.460 --> 00:28:46.609 anyway. We escaped the young 'un. He came running 00:28:46.609 --> 00:28:51.009 in. He was telling. Jasper interruptions are 00:28:51.009 --> 00:28:53.690 my favorite. He was telling on his mama. I don't 00:28:53.690 --> 00:28:56.230 know what she did. She flat -tired me earlier 00:28:56.230 --> 00:28:58.130 today. I don't know if you guys know what flat 00:28:58.130 --> 00:29:01.750 -tiring is, but it's when someone steps on the 00:29:01.750 --> 00:29:06.299 back of your shoe. Takes the back of your shoe 00:29:06.299 --> 00:29:08.920 off. Yeah, so she went to smack me on the ass, 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.380 but she accidentally flat -tired me. And I was 00:29:11.380 --> 00:29:19.380 wearing my favorite Chaco slides, the flip -flops 00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:22.079 or whatever. And it fucking completely ripped 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:28.359 the plastic. She destroyed my Chacos. And those 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.240 were like $50 sandals. And I was like... dude 00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:35.400 and she looked and she's like oh well why did 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.619 you i said don't even start don't even try to 00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:40.319 start to flip this on me you just destroyed my 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:44.079 favorite sandals i've ever had my chaco slides 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:48.420 how could you i was heartbroken so there's this 00:29:48.420 --> 00:29:51.200 new company making canopies like ours it's called 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.539 clam um they have one that's identical to ours 00:29:55.539 --> 00:29:59.759 but it's only a six by six it's 250 dollars A 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:05.119 little smelly. Yeah, I'm sure it smells. It has 00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:11.819 to smell. Yeah, the name. Yeah. Well, doesn't 00:30:11.819 --> 00:30:18.799 clam make ice shanties? I don't know. I don't 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.359 know why I'm thinking this, but I'm thinking, 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.400 like, clam -style ice shanties. I don't know. 00:30:26.349 --> 00:30:28.670 I know I was looking at some ice shanties. There's 00:30:28.670 --> 00:30:35.130 an 11 .5 one. There is, but they have a 6x6, 00:30:35.190 --> 00:30:36.789 and it's the same price as ours. I know, it's 00:30:36.789 --> 00:30:40.890 $3 .69 for the 11. It doesn't come with sides. 00:30:41.150 --> 00:30:45.349 But it literally... They have different colors, 00:30:45.410 --> 00:30:47.349 but they also have our beaver -colored ones, 00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:51.789 so it's clearly a beaver tent, you know? How 00:30:51.789 --> 00:30:53.650 much did you pay for the beaver? Like $100? $200 00:30:53.650 --> 00:30:57.220 or something. No, we paid like $200. 215 or something 00:30:57.220 --> 00:31:02.200 like that. And that's like an 8x8? 12x12. Got 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:08.299 it. The thing's great. I literally have no complaints 00:31:08.299 --> 00:31:15.259 about it. I think... Their 12x12 .5 is like 570. 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.980 Dude, and I just found out you have to buy the 00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:23.900 panels separate. They're 60 bucks. Yikes. Supposedly 00:31:23.900 --> 00:31:31.220 they're top rated. Just buy the Viver one. Guys, 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.039 if you're looking for a quick setup canopy with 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.500 walls, get the Viver. Yeah. It's not bad. Melissa 00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:44.460 and Mike in the Rubicon, they had the G8. Yeah. 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:49.059 Yeah. And that one was pretty cool. It's literally 00:31:49.059 --> 00:31:51.759 the same as ours. Yeah. We saw it. We saw it 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.500 when they were at Leatherwood. Yeah, were they 00:31:55.500 --> 00:31:58.859 at Leatherwood? Mm -hmm. Someone had a G8 at 00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:02.039 Leatherwood. Okay. It was an orange one. Yeah, 00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:07.000 no, theirs is like a black. Oh, okay. But they 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.240 had it. We used it during kids' camp because 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:12.359 the mosquitoes were so bad, and that was that 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.119 same kids' camp that it was like 100 and some 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:19.750 degrees. Yeah. And we used it for shelter. Yeah, 00:32:19.789 --> 00:32:22.130 it was stormy for that morning for like three 00:32:22.130 --> 00:32:24.309 hours and 100 -some degrees the rest of the day. 00:32:24.869 --> 00:32:27.970 And we used it just for shade because there was 00:32:27.970 --> 00:32:31.349 not a cloud in the sky. We had barely any tree 00:32:31.349 --> 00:32:34.390 cover. And it was just to get out of the sun. 00:32:34.509 --> 00:32:38.750 But that was pretty nice. And then I think they 00:32:38.750 --> 00:32:46.009 used it down in... Where was it? Yeah, in the 00:32:46.009 --> 00:32:49.930 UP. And the wind caught it. It flew away. Was 00:32:49.930 --> 00:32:54.890 that Paradise? We got it back. Yeah. We got it 00:32:54.890 --> 00:32:59.369 back. It was... Yeah, that thing tumbled right 00:32:59.369 --> 00:33:01.470 up the fucking hill from the wind. It was like 00:33:01.470 --> 00:33:06.630 60 mile an hour winds. That's crazy. Yeah. But 00:33:06.630 --> 00:33:10.829 it was fine. Ours, once you get it staked down 00:33:10.829 --> 00:33:12.789 right, it doesn't go anywhere. We have had it 00:33:12.789 --> 00:33:16.750 blow away on us. Yeah, they didn't... It wasn't 00:33:16.750 --> 00:33:21.289 windy at all. And they, uh, I don't think they 00:33:21.289 --> 00:33:24.150 had it really stick down for sand. Cause we were 00:33:24.150 --> 00:33:27.410 in that deep sand. Yeah. So it was like, it was 00:33:27.410 --> 00:33:29.089 fine. And then all of a sudden the, just the 00:33:29.089 --> 00:33:31.190 wind picked up and we thought it was, it was 00:33:31.190 --> 00:33:35.410 good, but no, I think the one time went to tumbling 00:33:35.410 --> 00:33:38.210 one time. Ours went, tried going. It was the 00:33:38.210 --> 00:33:41.970 first time we had it set up. We left the doors 00:33:41.970 --> 00:33:46.220 wide open. Yeah, and the wind just blew in and 00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:48.400 puffed it up like a balloon, and off she went. 00:33:48.619 --> 00:33:50.599 That's my main concern with these hub -style 00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:54.380 tents. I've been looking for a really deep auger 00:33:54.380 --> 00:33:59.400 style that will go, I don't know, for the hubs, 00:33:59.579 --> 00:34:03.339 because I know wind and the hubs don't really 00:34:03.339 --> 00:34:06.380 match, unless you've got them really tied up. 00:34:06.500 --> 00:34:11.579 I've seen Scott's in his Nissan. I've seen his 00:34:11.579 --> 00:34:14.849 hub do... the the 50 some mile an hour winds 00:34:14.849 --> 00:34:16.630 and it didn't look like it had a single issue 00:34:16.630 --> 00:34:22.150 but this is bigger right so i i did address it 00:34:22.150 --> 00:34:23.829 in the video and i want to talk about that a 00:34:23.829 --> 00:34:26.409 little bit too um you remember how we were talking 00:34:26.409 --> 00:34:28.349 about the little holes in the hub where you pull 00:34:28.349 --> 00:34:30.769 out they have the holes and we were talking about 00:34:30.769 --> 00:34:33.650 having to put like a a rubber washer on either 00:34:33.650 --> 00:34:37.309 side to keep like rain and yeah like yeah so 00:34:37.309 --> 00:34:42.030 they actually fix that in this one good So it's 00:34:42.030 --> 00:34:44.909 just like an anchor bolt going through the hub, 00:34:44.969 --> 00:34:48.530 and the material completely surrounds it. So 00:34:48.530 --> 00:34:50.610 I was actually going through that, and I was 00:34:50.610 --> 00:34:53.510 looking at all the things that I might have to 00:34:53.510 --> 00:34:59.849 do to it to make it decent. That was one of them 00:34:59.849 --> 00:35:03.050 that I looked at and was like, shit, I won't 00:35:03.050 --> 00:35:05.670 have to do that. Good. The other one was seam 00:35:05.670 --> 00:35:08.400 sealing. Like going through and seam sealing 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:10.659 or throwing extra water protectant on things. 00:35:10.739 --> 00:35:14.639 And I didn't really find much that needed extra 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.760 seam seal. Like they did a pretty good job on 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.460 the inside of that. I did find a few small little 00:35:22.460 --> 00:35:25.280 defects in it. Like where you could kind of see 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.900 the outside a little bit through the cloth. Like 00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:33.280 in the stitching. And I mentioned that in the 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.599 video too. Like I'm looking harder. than i have 00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.980 in any other tent i've ever bought so could be 00:35:39.980 --> 00:35:42.000 that every other a lot more let's say you spend 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.599 a lot more money you better look at it a lot 00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:47.380 deeper yeah and but my my point was is it was 00:35:47.380 --> 00:35:50.820 like one stitch hole that i could see some light 00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:54.039 through here and then like one stitch hole on 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:55.980 the whole other side of the tent a whole different 00:35:55.980 --> 00:35:58.719 area that i could see some light through it's 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.320 like that's not really that big of a deal uh 00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.889 big of a deal as if I was seeing a line of them 00:36:05.889 --> 00:36:10.590 that were pretty split. You could have no stitch 00:36:10.590 --> 00:36:12.389 holes that you see light through. That would 00:36:12.389 --> 00:36:15.030 be preferred. Yeah, but in a factory setting. 00:36:15.409 --> 00:36:17.809 And you know what? I would love to see an episode 00:36:17.809 --> 00:36:22.110 of how it's made for those tents. Yeah. Because 00:36:22.110 --> 00:36:24.789 if you think about the construction and how they're 00:36:24.789 --> 00:36:27.969 sewn in, how the hub style is sewn into the tent 00:36:27.969 --> 00:36:31.070 cloth and stuff, I would love to see how somebody 00:36:31.070 --> 00:36:34.599 makes that in a factory. With the poles and, 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.840 like, how heavy it is. Like, how that all comes 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.679 together like that. Be really cool to see. Because 00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:45.900 that's not, like, an easy design. Like those 00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:49.719 hub styles. I found it. I found my base camp 00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:55.440 style tent. Yeah. It's a instant hexagonal cabin 00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:01.380 tent from Ozark Trail. 15 by 13. My lord, dude. 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:08.179 And it looks sick, dude. It looks great. It looks 00:37:08.179 --> 00:37:11.980 very, very nice to set a queen size bed in. Oh, 00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:17.079 I hate. I don't think that this is a bad looking 00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.820 tent, but I cannot stand it when they do those 00:37:20.820 --> 00:37:24.340 tiny little rainflies. And that includes my gazelle. 00:37:24.780 --> 00:37:27.880 I just wish they, why, like, why not just do 00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:32.789 an optional drape that goes. Yeah. that you can 00:37:32.789 --> 00:37:37.309 fold up or roll up. I agree. Uh, it helps a lot 00:37:37.309 --> 00:37:39.130 when you're in a storm, if you have a rain fly 00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:41.150 that actually fucking, you know, rain flies. 00:37:41.489 --> 00:37:45.849 Yeah. Like that is an interesting design, man. 00:37:46.250 --> 00:37:49.289 Wow. I know it's the amount of space that you 00:37:49.289 --> 00:37:53.429 gain from that. Like, I'm not saying, I'm not 00:37:53.429 --> 00:37:55.250 saying it's something I take over landing, but 00:37:55.250 --> 00:37:57.050 like, if it's something I'm just popping up to 00:37:57.050 --> 00:38:00.570 have like a, you know, more than a day or two, 00:38:00.630 --> 00:38:04.250 like there's, You can stand up. You can do whatever 00:38:04.250 --> 00:38:07.530 you want in it. This might be worth getting for 00:38:07.530 --> 00:38:10.130 a base camp tap. I would be interested to see 00:38:10.130 --> 00:38:12.250 how much weight it could withstand on the top. 00:38:13.349 --> 00:38:17.510 It's got, for non -viewers, because we don't 00:38:17.510 --> 00:38:20.289 have any viewing, maybe we'll throw a picture 00:38:20.289 --> 00:38:23.250 of this up at top art or chapter art, but it's 00:38:23.250 --> 00:38:27.570 got your weird, it's kind of a weird shape to 00:38:27.570 --> 00:38:31.440 it than a typical. Yeah, it's got three long 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.699 sides and four short sides. Actually, not even. 00:38:34.019 --> 00:38:40.199 Two long sides and four short sides. Yep. But 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.460 it's got two different kind of hub areas. One 00:38:44.460 --> 00:38:47.480 in the rear, which looks like the main larger 00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.139 one. And then a smaller one in the front. And 00:38:51.139 --> 00:38:53.940 the poles look kind of small from the picture. 00:38:54.420 --> 00:39:00.139 They do. Which kind of worries me a little. but 00:39:00.139 --> 00:39:02.440 like i said this seems to have a good peak on 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.400 it though for water this would be for me this 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.360 would be more like almost fair weather right 00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.099 like yeah i'm going out setting up a base camp 00:39:11.099 --> 00:39:13.980 and then if something happens like thank god 00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:17.300 i have a tank you know right well let's see what 00:39:17.300 --> 00:39:20.079 we got let's look at our reviews here i got we 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.840 got some pictures look at that glamping setup 00:39:26.269 --> 00:39:28.469 Is that the first thing you found is a glamping 00:39:28.469 --> 00:39:32.289 setup? They got a couch. They got two cots. A 00:39:32.289 --> 00:39:35.610 rug. A fan, a TV, a rug. Yeah, that's glamping. 00:39:35.670 --> 00:39:38.590 Yeah. If you have a full - Oh, and then - There's 00:39:38.590 --> 00:39:41.650 another one. If you go far enough in, this tent 00:39:41.650 --> 00:39:43.210 is a joke. It's supposed to be an easy setup, 00:39:43.289 --> 00:39:47.670 and all the poles are broken off. Oh, duh. Yeah. 00:39:50.530 --> 00:39:53.579 Oh, that's rough. There's another one. Like the 00:39:53.579 --> 00:39:55.719 tent doesn't hold up, only used it three times. 00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.440 Numerous plastic connections from poles broke. 00:40:00.179 --> 00:40:03.519 Yeah, that's where the hub meets. That's the 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:07.440 exact hub I was talking about. Yeah, it's not 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.579 going to be a thing. It's just a cool, I like 00:40:09.579 --> 00:40:11.119 the idea. Very cool design, yeah. The amount 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.460 of space that they've got in an easy setup tent 00:40:13.460 --> 00:40:20.340 is really cool. If they just did metal hubs and 00:40:20.340 --> 00:40:25.579 metal poles. And maybe thickened the gauge of 00:40:25.579 --> 00:40:27.940 the pole up a little bit. Yeah, that could have 00:40:27.940 --> 00:40:31.619 been a great tent, but man. They really struck 00:40:31.619 --> 00:40:33.360 out with that one. Those poles are about the 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.420 same size as the Boo Palace poles. Yeah, no, 00:40:37.500 --> 00:40:41.539 they are, 100%. And it extends the same way as 00:40:41.539 --> 00:40:44.340 the core does. You can see that it's got like 00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:49.239 the poles pull outside of each other, the telescoping 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.889 style. Which it reminds me a lot of the core. 00:40:53.050 --> 00:40:56.769 Yeah. Which if anybody's ever used those telescoping 00:40:56.769 --> 00:41:00.449 pole styles, once you get some like mud and sand 00:41:00.449 --> 00:41:02.530 and grit in there, those become much harder to 00:41:02.530 --> 00:41:05.949 work. Like on the, on the core, after those, 00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:09.050 that little bit of rain we got, we had rolled 00:41:09.050 --> 00:41:11.650 it up and I was trying to push those in. Sienna 00:41:11.650 --> 00:41:13.230 was pushing fucking hard. I thought she was going 00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:17.309 to break it to pull that tent pole back in. So, 00:41:17.369 --> 00:41:21.610 and if those clips break, You're screwed. That 00:41:21.610 --> 00:41:25.389 hold the telescoping pole in place. Yeah. So 00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:27.730 you got to like duct tape it or something and 00:41:27.730 --> 00:41:30.929 open. No, you're screwed. You'd have to hope 00:41:30.929 --> 00:41:32.650 that you can buy spare parts somewhere, which 00:41:32.650 --> 00:41:35.329 a company like Ozark Trail is not going to do 00:41:35.329 --> 00:41:38.769 spare parts. They would most rather for what? 00:41:38.809 --> 00:41:41.429 That was $160 or something for that? They'd rather 00:41:41.429 --> 00:41:44.090 you just buy a new one. Yeah. $189. And they 00:41:44.090 --> 00:41:48.989 might warranty it out for you even. That's crazy. 00:41:49.710 --> 00:41:52.289 I just like that. So you need, I do. Yeah, it 00:41:52.289 --> 00:41:55.449 is. You need by Walmart's accident plan by all 00:41:55.449 --> 00:42:02.130 state. Oh yeah. There we go. I've used Walmart's 00:42:02.130 --> 00:42:05.309 insurance before. It actually was kind of nice. 00:42:06.869 --> 00:42:09.289 I don't know. I just, I like the idea of having 00:42:09.289 --> 00:42:12.269 a glamping tent to go along with my non glamping 00:42:12.269 --> 00:42:14.670 tent. Cause there are trips we do that like. 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.980 I do more of a glamping style, you know? I honestly 00:42:17.980 --> 00:42:20.920 couldn't see you in anything other than an army 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:28.460 canvas tent. Like a 10 -person canvas. So much 00:42:28.460 --> 00:42:32.699 money. I mean, we found some cheap ones on Facebook, 00:42:32.820 --> 00:42:37.219 right? Like $400? That's a lot of money. I'm 00:42:37.219 --> 00:42:40.099 only going to spend like $200 or less. Yeah, 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.340 I mean, to be honest, the use case for you... 00:42:43.670 --> 00:42:47.530 Would be, like, once a year at that. Like, when 00:42:47.530 --> 00:42:50.329 I go on this Indian, this trip to Indian Run, 00:42:50.409 --> 00:42:52.150 like, that would be, or Turkey Run, not Indian 00:42:52.150 --> 00:42:55.170 Run. This trip to Turkey Run, that'd be, like, 00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:57.730 the use case for the tent, you know? Yeah, and 00:42:57.730 --> 00:43:00.889 that's it. And that's all you'd use it for one 00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:03.530 year, so it's not really effective. I think you'd 00:43:03.530 --> 00:43:06.050 just be better off with your 10 -person Coleman 00:43:06.050 --> 00:43:08.889 thing that you have, Walmart brand. Yeah, I mean, 00:43:08.909 --> 00:43:11.050 that's what I plan on taking anyway. I just... 00:43:11.420 --> 00:43:13.719 I want to get something a little nicer. Just 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.820 a touch nicer. I already jumped down that road, 00:43:16.900 --> 00:43:20.380 dude. Just get all the sides for your tent and 00:43:20.380 --> 00:43:24.940 do the same thing I did for Les. Yeah, I thought 00:43:24.940 --> 00:43:27.239 about just taking the canopy and using that, 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.960 but... If it's going to be as warm as it is, 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:33.199 I don't think you would have an issue. Probably 00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:37.360 not. No, I'll probably just keep using the $100 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.269 Walmart tent, because... I know we don't use 00:43:40.269 --> 00:43:42.469 it anymore, but that thing is honestly a bangin' 00:43:42.469 --> 00:43:47.869 tent. For the price, yeah. Set up in under 15 00:43:47.869 --> 00:43:51.789 minutes for setup, and you've got a... What is 00:43:51.789 --> 00:43:55.170 that thing? It's massive. It's a big, fine tent. 00:43:55.449 --> 00:43:59.170 Yeah, it's like a 15 -person tent, right? Something 00:43:59.170 --> 00:44:03.230 crazy. It's got one main room, two side rooms. 00:44:04.869 --> 00:44:06.929 Oh, it's not different rooms. It's one big room. 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:13.199 Oh, okay. The look of it almost looks like it's 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.519 got the two side rooms off to the side because 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.199 it's a little shorter, right? Or is it all the 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.820 same height? No, yeah, you're right. The sides 00:44:20.820 --> 00:44:24.739 are a little shorter. Yeah. That's like where 00:44:24.739 --> 00:44:26.880 you'd put a bed on one side on the shorter end 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.099 and then a bed on the other shorter end and the 00:44:30.099 --> 00:44:33.360 middle part's the dining room. Mm -hmm. I mean, 00:44:33.380 --> 00:44:36.260 that's kind of what our setup was. Uh, when me 00:44:36.260 --> 00:44:38.380 and Mark use it, it was caught on either side 00:44:38.380 --> 00:44:40.760 and then a table in the middle or like a dining 00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:43.400 room or a cook space. Yeah. For, um, for two 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:47.000 people base camp and like having a cook space 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.559 and everything in there. That's not bad. I, um, 00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:57.679 it's funny. I'm 21. It's 21 by 15. Wow. Yeah. 00:44:57.780 --> 00:45:00.659 That's a big old tent. It's funny. Cause it's. 00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.659 sounds bigger than it actually looks like it's 00:45:03.659 --> 00:45:06.960 a big tent but like when you say 21 feet that 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:13.679 sounds much bigger than what it actually is it's 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:19.840 not hard to use that space no not at all i'm 00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.400 excited that i can bring my chairs in into this 00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.559 tent at night and use it to like sit down and 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.630 in the tent or that's what i miss That's what 00:45:29.630 --> 00:45:32.150 I miss about the having the big tent is being 00:45:32.150 --> 00:45:35.710 able to just bring my shit inside. And on topic 00:45:35.710 --> 00:45:38.349 of shit, I could actually use the bathroom in 00:45:38.349 --> 00:45:41.630 the tent if I had to. Yeah. Like, yeah, it's 00:45:41.630 --> 00:45:44.010 going to be a little stanky, but like there's 00:45:44.010 --> 00:45:46.630 a couple of days where like it's downpour raining 00:45:46.630 --> 00:45:50.710 or if it's fucking, you know, 10 degrees outside, 00:45:50.989 --> 00:45:54.769 it'd be nice to take a dump in your tent. Well, 00:45:54.889 --> 00:45:59.519 in the potty in your tent. I could set up the 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:02.280 poop shelter in the tent if I really wanted to. 00:46:02.739 --> 00:46:05.800 And have a whole bathroom. If I was just camping 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.159 with my family, like a family outing, I'd just 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:09.659 put the bathroom in the tent. I wouldn't even 00:46:09.659 --> 00:46:12.019 worry about setting up a secondary tent. Yeah. 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.340 Yeah, I mean, me too. I'd just throw the poop 00:46:14.340 --> 00:46:16.920 outside real quick. As long as it's in the bag. 00:46:17.139 --> 00:46:22.460 Yeah. So we've done that in the six -person because 00:46:22.460 --> 00:46:25.300 they have the vestibule in the back. And we've 00:46:25.300 --> 00:46:28.639 taken the bathroom in there. because it was raining 00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.880 all day and we just used the vestibule area, 00:46:31.980 --> 00:46:34.500 which we had to definitely hunker down and squat 00:46:34.500 --> 00:46:37.599 a little bit from touching the top of the tent. 00:46:37.820 --> 00:46:41.659 But, I mean, it's all family in there. It's not 00:46:41.659 --> 00:46:45.360 like anybody sees you in there doing it either. 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.199 So that's what I would do and probably will do, 00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:53.179 especially if some of these kids camps and stuff 00:46:53.179 --> 00:46:54.920 when we're all a little closer to each other. 00:46:56.210 --> 00:46:58.670 And if that means I don't have to throw up that 00:46:58.670 --> 00:47:03.010 stupid pop -up tent for the bathroom, then it's 00:47:03.010 --> 00:47:05.849 fine with me. Because that thing's a pain to 00:47:05.849 --> 00:47:10.710 put back in. Okay, like, check out this thing 00:47:10.710 --> 00:47:15.309 I just found. I don't even know how to describe 00:47:15.309 --> 00:47:20.230 this. Did I send it? Did it send? No. The thing 00:47:20.230 --> 00:47:22.630 is that I would actually be interested in this 00:47:22.630 --> 00:47:28.000 for a poo palace. God, I wonder how strong that 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.860 really is, though. Oh, that's just a fucking... 00:47:31.860 --> 00:47:38.639 The way that it... Oh, okay. So, alright. It's 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:43.019 like two gazelle sides, right? Merged at the 00:47:43.019 --> 00:47:45.360 top, so you just pop out two sides and boom, 00:47:45.380 --> 00:47:49.860 the tent's up. So for anybody looking at this, 00:47:49.980 --> 00:47:56.420 it looks like an A -frame house. It's just a 00:47:56.420 --> 00:48:02.800 giant triangle tent, and the sides on each side 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.880 of the tent pop in and out. It's kind of interesting. 00:48:09.699 --> 00:48:12.820 It's got a full rainfly. Yeah, it's got a full 00:48:12.820 --> 00:48:16.099 rainfly. The sides are translucent. I wonder 00:48:16.099 --> 00:48:18.480 how well it vents other than that front door, 00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:20.780 like if it's got windows. The bottom's open. 00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.460 I was going to say the bottom's wide open. Oh, 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.860 you're right. Yeah. I might actually buy this 00:48:27.860 --> 00:48:32.619 and see about using it for a poop house. It'll 00:48:32.619 --> 00:48:36.619 be a quicker setup. Maybe I would take white 00:48:36.619 --> 00:48:38.780 spray paint and spray paint the windows on the 00:48:38.780 --> 00:48:44.239 inside or something. Because I don't want the 00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:48.239 translucent bullshit. I want it to be non -see 00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.199 -through. Is that plastic or like a bug netting? 00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:54.000 That's plastic. It looks plastic. Yeah, that's 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.619 definitely, like, a plastic. Someone's using 00:48:56.619 --> 00:49:02.860 it for a greenhouse. Dude, that's such a weird... 00:49:02.860 --> 00:49:05.860 It's just like... It's like your triangular, 00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:09.920 like, wood block that you'd have as a kid. Like, 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:13.320 it's so weird. Like, literally, the only thing 00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.699 I could see it being useful for is, like, a poo 00:49:15.699 --> 00:49:20.039 palace. Or a shower. Like, it's so small. Well, 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.239 it might be smaller than a shower. One person 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:27.460 says... Yeah, it's smaller than a shower. But 00:49:27.460 --> 00:49:30.980 if someone has a camp chair in there, it could 00:49:30.980 --> 00:49:35.820 fit like a large camp chair. Yeah, okay, I could 00:49:35.820 --> 00:49:39.320 see that. All right, so sporting events. Yeah, 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.320 I'd be good for that, for sure. It's basically 00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:44.000 a one person with a little room for a couple 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.179 things of gear. You could sit at a soccer game 00:49:47.179 --> 00:49:49.099 with it raining and pouring, and that would be 00:49:49.099 --> 00:49:52.199 pretty useful. But I mean, in our scenario, though, 00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.219 I only see it useful as like a poop shelter. 00:49:56.320 --> 00:50:00.739 But in it, like, imagine how much faster setup 00:50:00.739 --> 00:50:03.519 on that would be than like even my poop palace, 00:50:03.659 --> 00:50:07.579 you know? Yeah. Like you just pop the two sides 00:50:07.579 --> 00:50:11.460 out and four stakes. It's even faster if you 00:50:11.460 --> 00:50:14.219 just bring your 10 person tent and just keep 00:50:14.219 --> 00:50:19.550 on the other side of it. You're not wrong. I 00:50:19.550 --> 00:50:21.329 mean, you do have two sides of that tent now, 00:50:21.429 --> 00:50:27.309 so when you go to, what is it, Whitetails? Turkey 00:50:27.309 --> 00:50:32.550 Run. Turkey Run, yeah. Some forest animal. But, 00:50:32.590 --> 00:50:34.150 yeah, you could just use the other side over 00:50:34.150 --> 00:50:40.250 there. Put a sheet up on the poles. Oh, don't 00:50:40.250 --> 00:50:42.110 worry. I'm not bringing the Pooh Palace because 00:50:42.110 --> 00:50:45.409 there are, like, showers and full -on, like, 00:50:45.469 --> 00:50:50.690 it's a state park. yeah if you have to pay for 00:50:50.690 --> 00:50:55.610 your spot and you have showers glamping that's 00:50:55.610 --> 00:50:58.849 why i'm not that's why i kind of want something 00:50:58.849 --> 00:51:02.909 uh more glampy because like i i love the swag 00:51:02.909 --> 00:51:06.269 don't get me wrong the swag is an amazing tent 00:51:06.269 --> 00:51:08.550 for what we do but something like that i'm gonna 00:51:08.550 --> 00:51:10.730 want to be able to stand up and change i yeah 00:51:10.730 --> 00:51:15.130 i do remember uh when i was going to leelanau 00:51:15.130 --> 00:51:18.829 state park and we Got the last campsite available. 00:51:19.829 --> 00:51:23.750 And it was like that crushed granite rock for 00:51:23.750 --> 00:51:26.710 the campsite. It had plug -in power. We obviously 00:51:26.710 --> 00:51:28.289 didn't use it because we had everything else. 00:51:28.550 --> 00:51:31.710 We had our two -person Nemo dagger tent in like 00:51:31.710 --> 00:51:37.510 a 20 by 20 camp spot that was like half crushed 00:51:37.510 --> 00:51:41.230 rock. And it was like, this feels wrong. This 00:51:41.230 --> 00:51:45.460 feels like I could be glamping right now. and 00:51:45.460 --> 00:51:48.800 instead I'm rolling out of my tent into crushed 00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.699 granite rock. Like, that, I was like, I wish 00:51:52.699 --> 00:51:55.679 I was glamping right there. I have full intentions 00:51:55.679 --> 00:52:00.179 of bringing my queen -size cot mattress thing 00:52:00.179 --> 00:52:03.380 for that trip, so I probably should make sure 00:52:03.380 --> 00:52:08.280 I get a tent that it fits well. Yeah, which would 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.889 definitely be your tent person. But... This Poop 00:52:12.889 --> 00:52:15.889 Palace, I actually might just hit order and see 00:52:15.889 --> 00:52:19.309 how it is. Because on top of that, it's like 00:52:19.309 --> 00:52:22.150 $60 cheaper than the one that I already have. 00:52:23.030 --> 00:52:25.050 I think you should get it. We should do a video 00:52:25.050 --> 00:52:28.929 on it. I think so, too. I'm going to take a video 00:52:28.929 --> 00:52:31.349 of you taking a poop in it and tell me how it 00:52:31.349 --> 00:52:34.349 is. I mean, worst case, we take both. One's the 00:52:34.349 --> 00:52:35.989 Poop Palace, the other one's just the area to 00:52:35.989 --> 00:52:39.210 change in. Because the one you can stand up in 00:52:39.210 --> 00:52:47.380 and take a shower in. And with this one being, 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:52.880 you know, shorter. Yeah. No, I, I wonder if you 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:54.719 can put the rain fly on and just leave it on 00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.119 when you close it. It looks like you could. Yeah. 00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:59.340 It does say you have to keep, you have to open 00:52:59.340 --> 00:53:01.940 the door when you put it away though, which isn't 00:53:01.940 --> 00:53:03.519 a big deal. I'm just saying that they did say 00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:07.380 that. Makes sense. So you have to have the door 00:53:07.380 --> 00:53:10.079 open. It's like the same with my gazelle tent 00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.320 that. you have to unhook the rainfly before you 00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.880 close it with the rainfly on top because it's 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:22.500 in those hard tent bowls. Yep. So, yeah, I mean, 00:53:22.500 --> 00:53:23.920 that would be pretty cool, though. A little Pooh 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:26.659 Palace. We can do a review on it. Compare it 00:53:26.659 --> 00:53:29.260 to your other one. This will be my third Pooh 00:53:29.260 --> 00:53:33.139 Palace, though. I'll bring mine out, too. We 00:53:33.139 --> 00:53:34.760 could put all three of them side by side and 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.039 compare and contrast. That's good because your 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.400 Pooh Palace was the first one I had. Yeah. Yeah. 00:53:40.780 --> 00:53:42.019 I'm not upset with that one. I used it for one 00:53:42.019 --> 00:53:44.360 trip and threw it away. Yeah, I'm not upset with 00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:47.380 that one. It's a learning curve to try to put 00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:52.000 it away, but it's not bad. It's mostly rainproof. 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:55.099 My biggest problem with that one was sitting 00:53:55.099 --> 00:53:57.840 on the toilet in the wind, and I had to put my 00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.260 arms up to hold the tent up so that it wasn't 00:54:00.260 --> 00:54:06.059 blowing over on top of me. Yeah, I think... No. 00:54:06.619 --> 00:54:09.519 Yeah, that's... Yeah. I was almost scared for 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.340 mine to ventilate. Like, shy pooper. Like, I 00:54:13.340 --> 00:54:15.039 don't want mine to ventilate well. I don't want 00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:18.099 other people to smell me. Yours, I had to poop... 00:54:18.099 --> 00:54:19.800 When I had that one, I had to poop with the door 00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.559 open. Because it was, like, 100 degrees, and 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.599 it was just baking inside. I do remember having 00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.900 to do that in mine. It's more the heat more than 00:54:27.900 --> 00:54:33.519 actually venting out. Which, I guess, is something 00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:35.039 I'd be worried about with this one, especially 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.940 if someone uses a greenhouse. Yeah, yeah, no, 00:54:38.059 --> 00:54:40.059 with the clear tops in there, you just get fucking 00:54:40.059 --> 00:54:44.480 cooked. I really like that idea, though. Like, 00:54:44.539 --> 00:54:47.820 it would be worth someone taking that setup and 00:54:47.820 --> 00:54:52.559 converting to a poop, like, hmm. I don't understand 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:56.000 why there isn't a one -person gazelle -style 00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.599 poop house that is completely pop -up, like, 00:54:59.619 --> 00:55:02.400 hub -style. I might buy one. It seems like it 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.690 would be completely easy. I might buy one and 00:55:05.690 --> 00:55:08.190 play with it and maybe see about changing some 00:55:08.190 --> 00:55:10.190 stuff. And then maybe we can get ahold of a seller. 00:55:10.349 --> 00:55:13.429 Oh no, stop. I'm not making a business ideas 00:55:13.429 --> 00:55:16.110 on the podcast. No, no, this is our, this is 00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:17.889 our exit plan. Uh, we're going to start making 00:55:17.889 --> 00:55:21.289 a gazelle style poop palaces. More fleet, more 00:55:21.289 --> 00:55:24.650 fleet comes out. Like Tyler comes out with a 00:55:24.650 --> 00:55:28.110 brand new poop palace, like completely off, completely 00:55:28.110 --> 00:55:31.269 off brand. What he was, uh, what he sells now. 00:55:31.389 --> 00:55:33.739 And we're like, God damn it, dude. That's exactly 00:55:33.739 --> 00:55:36.920 what we were saying. God damn it, Tyler. Taking 00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:39.980 my idea, making it lime green and shit. Yeah, 00:55:39.980 --> 00:55:43.480 lime green and black. He's like, oh, I'm sorry, 00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:48.579 man. I was just next to the seller in the main 00:55:48.579 --> 00:55:51.840 factory talking to him, and he just gave me one 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.480 of your guys' supplies so I could reverse engineer 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:58.460 it and steal it from you. If anybody's actually 00:55:58.460 --> 00:56:01.179 listened to the Morphlate episode, you'll get 00:56:01.179 --> 00:56:05.460 that reference. Because that happened to Tyler. 00:56:07.019 --> 00:56:11.420 Someone stole it from him. I really like that 00:56:11.420 --> 00:56:13.699 idea, though. Now that we've seen one, I'm sure 00:56:13.699 --> 00:56:17.619 we'll start seeing more pop up. Time to get on 00:56:17.619 --> 00:56:22.320 Temu. Because literally, if you replace the plastic 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.460 with some normal tent material and maybe a window 00:56:25.460 --> 00:56:30.400 or two, That's a banging poop, Alice. Dude, just 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:34.380 someone put fucking zip -up windows and a hub 00:56:34.380 --> 00:56:37.940 -style one person tall enough for you to stand 00:56:37.940 --> 00:56:41.820 in. Just get it over with. Just corner the fucking 00:56:41.820 --> 00:56:44.719 game right now. Just stop what you're doing, 00:56:44.820 --> 00:56:47.619 dude. It can't be that hard, right? If you could 00:56:47.619 --> 00:56:49.699 do it with eight people, you could do it with 00:56:49.699 --> 00:56:54.739 a one person. Oh, someone just... Ozark Trail 00:56:54.739 --> 00:56:58.099 also just came out with one. A lot like my Pooh 00:56:58.099 --> 00:57:06.079 Palace that's only 50 bucks. I think we should 00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:09.619 talk to a designer. Yeah, we need to, like, get 00:57:09.619 --> 00:57:11.480 a... We need to just make a business of selling 00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:13.579 Pooh Palaces. And we'll name it, like, Pooh Palace, 00:57:13.699 --> 00:57:18.159 Pooh Castle, Pooh Shanny. Or different levels, 00:57:18.260 --> 00:57:21.360 you know? Oh, yeah, yeah. One... Yeah, you do 00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:24.559 one person, two person, three person. Yeah, one 00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:27.440 person's a poo shanty, two person's a poo palace, 00:57:27.739 --> 00:57:32.880 three person is a poo castle. Yeah. And the three 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:35.079 person rectangular one that's completely hub 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.199 style will have a bathroom in one and a whole 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:43.860 changing room with a bar that goes across the 00:57:43.860 --> 00:57:48.320 side to hang things. Two bathrooms, two different 00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:53.059 stalls, shower in the middle. Restall tent with... 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.579 Two toilet areas and a shower. Convertible, man. 00:57:56.699 --> 00:57:58.940 It can be convertible. You can throw the pole 00:57:58.940 --> 00:58:02.300 up to dry your clothes because it's already going 00:58:02.300 --> 00:58:07.119 to be hot as dick in there. Yeah. Just saying, 00:58:07.139 --> 00:58:10.559 man. And we'll come up with some kind of fancy 00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:12.239 little pump. So you just bring your five gallon 00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:16.280 bucket over, set it down. Boom, you got water. 00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.400 Yeah. And it recycled. No, I don't want it to 00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:24.090 recycle. I kind of do. We'd have to get like 00:58:24.090 --> 00:58:28.070 a filter. Filter out the dirty water. I mean, 00:58:28.090 --> 00:58:29.550 that's how they do it on space stations, right? 00:58:29.650 --> 00:58:31.710 You want a longer shower than two minutes, you 00:58:31.710 --> 00:58:34.469 get recycled water. Yeah, but we're not going 00:58:34.469 --> 00:58:37.409 to be the guys selling poo castles for $500 either. 00:58:39.849 --> 00:58:41.909 I don't know, I think that's a good price. Yeah, 00:58:41.929 --> 00:58:46.329 right? Yeah. Dude, no one... The thing is... 00:58:46.590 --> 00:58:48.369 And that's one of the problems with like poo 00:58:48.369 --> 00:58:50.489 castle technology, right? Is it's gotta be a 00:58:50.489 --> 00:58:51.730 hundred dollars or less or no one's going to 00:58:51.730 --> 00:58:55.110 fucking buy the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Unless I can 00:58:55.110 --> 00:58:58.610 get like the bougie landers to spend a thousand 00:58:58.610 --> 00:59:01.250 dollars on it. Because if they see that it's 00:59:01.250 --> 00:59:04.610 $600 and above, they'll buy it just because it's 00:59:04.610 --> 00:59:07.389 $600 and above. We'll have it made out of like 00:59:07.389 --> 00:59:12.429 carbon fiber rods and titanium. Oh dude. Titanium 00:59:12.429 --> 00:59:16.050 joints. Hell yeah. And then we'll have like a, 00:59:16.460 --> 00:59:20.139 actual canvas walls i think canvas is too heavy 00:59:20.139 --> 00:59:22.960 for these guys they need like they need like 00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:29.360 top notch rip stop like uh north face tents like 00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:34.980 material okay with yeah yeah yeah with carbon 00:59:34.980 --> 00:59:40.719 fiber rods titanium hinges what do you think 00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:44.070 all right well there we go exit plan uh yep Mark, 00:59:44.090 --> 00:59:45.789 Alex, and Gavin are going to start a company 00:59:45.789 --> 00:59:48.929 where we sell poo shanties, poo castles, and 00:59:48.929 --> 00:59:52.449 poo palaces. Yeah. What are we going to call 00:59:52.449 --> 00:59:58.710 it? Shanties? I'll say Bunch Poop. Nah, that's 00:59:58.710 --> 01:00:02.610 too long, man. What about Boop? Boop. Ah, I like 01:00:02.610 --> 01:00:07.010 it. Boop. Boop. Yep. Yeah. You got to have the 01:00:07.010 --> 01:00:10.070 Boop Shanty, Boop Castle. We have to have... 01:00:10.409 --> 01:00:13.130 We have to have integrated LEDs, too, and we'll 01:00:13.130 --> 01:00:16.570 sell... We'll make them be USB plug -in, but 01:00:16.570 --> 01:00:21.010 the wires will be reversed, so you have to have 01:00:21.010 --> 01:00:24.369 a special battery to plug it in. Yep, like an 01:00:24.369 --> 01:00:26.150 iPhone. Too bad this one doesn't have zip -up. 01:00:30.769 --> 01:00:35.530 Let's see. Yeah, that's... I mean, that's still 01:00:35.530 --> 01:00:40.590 pretty close. I... would almost run that as a 01:00:40.590 --> 01:00:43.730 poo castle too that's a little big though 6 .8 01:00:43.730 --> 01:00:46.429 by 5 .9 and doesn't even have a zip up front 01:00:46.429 --> 01:00:50.909 anyways it's just open well i could get around 01:00:50.909 --> 01:00:59.849 that but yeah i don't know uh i really am interested 01:00:59.849 --> 01:01:01.489 in this one i found though and i gotta figure 01:01:01.489 --> 01:01:03.030 out how to make it work for me because i want 01:01:03.030 --> 01:01:07.530 it I have no reason to want it because I have 01:01:07.530 --> 01:01:10.949 a perfectly good poo castle. Yep, it goes back 01:01:10.949 --> 01:01:13.349 to my question a couple episodes about, like, 01:01:13.369 --> 01:01:18.590 when is it okay to upgrade? Like, what constitutes 01:01:18.590 --> 01:01:22.329 it? Sometimes it's just something comes across 01:01:22.329 --> 01:01:25.590 that's cooler and maybe not even more efficient, 01:01:25.670 --> 01:01:32.159 just as efficient. Who knows? I don't know, maybe 01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:34.119 not, because I'm thinking about it, and having 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:36.260 to sit there with the door open to take a shit 01:01:36.260 --> 01:01:41.719 is probably going to piss me off. It's like, 01:01:41.780 --> 01:01:43.320 I'm looking at this, and there's no ventilation 01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:46.519 other than the bottom. Yeah. Hey, that's... I 01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:50.679 already... Yeah. Hey. You could cut some holes, 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.900 get Kalen to do some sewing, make a prototype. 01:01:56.260 --> 01:02:00.159 Might have to. But yeah, anyways, guys, it's 01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.039 been great talking to you. I am surrounded by 01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:08.619 white monitors and it's hurting my eyes. So we'll 01:02:08.619 --> 01:02:10.659 catch you later. Catch you on the flip side. 01:02:10.739 --> 01:02:10.980 Later.