WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.059 welcome to botches off road uh so yeah um it's 00:00:05.059 --> 00:00:07.519 still just me and mark since we record both episodes 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:14.740 on one day all in a row um today it's an hour 00:00:14.740 --> 00:00:16.679 i'm gonna try and keep the bullshitting to a 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:20.300 minimum uh see how long we can keep on a couple 00:00:20.300 --> 00:00:25.480 of topics um number one When do you decide a 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.140 project is too big and you send it to someone 00:00:28.140 --> 00:00:37.719 rather than suffer through it? Yeah. No project 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:43.140 is too big for me. I will do anything. Does that 00:00:43.140 --> 00:00:47.439 mean I'm going to get pissed? Yes. But I have 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:49.579 suffered through much harder builds than anything 00:00:49.579 --> 00:00:52.640 we're doing on the Tacoma or the Forerunner. 00:00:54.539 --> 00:00:57.299 yeah unless unless we're on a time crunch like 00:00:57.299 --> 00:01:00.079 we were last time with my truck that wasn't even 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.159 a time crunch it was uh we were literally leaving 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:05.439 for a trip and weren't going to be home but you 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:11.959 still needed it for work yeah no i know but you 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.319 know i think back to like the power stroke build 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:18.000 that took three years and for that three years 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:25.310 i borrowed cars Like that was dumb. I won't do 00:01:25.310 --> 00:01:29.170 that again. Yeah, well, I'm doing it right now. 00:01:29.829 --> 00:01:35.090 You're doing it right now. But, you know, almost 00:01:35.090 --> 00:01:37.549 anything we go through, it's not nothing can 00:01:37.549 --> 00:01:40.129 be as hard as taking that turbo out with the 00:01:40.129 --> 00:01:45.489 cab still on the truck. Especially before I put 00:01:45.489 --> 00:01:48.010 the two by fours under. on the frame to support 00:01:48.010 --> 00:01:50.549 the truck. Oh, God. And the cab was sitting on 00:01:50.549 --> 00:01:54.450 the turbo. Do you remember that? I think I remember 00:01:54.450 --> 00:01:59.230 that. Fuck, dude. I know I wasn't there for when 00:01:59.230 --> 00:02:01.849 you guys initially did the engine build, but... 00:02:01.849 --> 00:02:04.709 You were there for part of it. I think you helped... 00:02:04.709 --> 00:02:06.989 I was later. You helped put it in, didn't you? 00:02:07.730 --> 00:02:09.909 I don't recall putting the engine in. I know 00:02:09.909 --> 00:02:12.030 I did the transmissions almost all the time. 00:02:12.669 --> 00:02:18.319 Every couple months? Shut up. Was getting faster 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:20.680 at it, though. Do admit that. We were getting 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:23.300 pretty fast. I never should have got rid of that 00:02:23.300 --> 00:02:28.340 fucking truck. But, you know, for you, Mark, 00:02:28.460 --> 00:02:31.039 when do you decide a project is too big for you 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:40.620 to even tackle? I mean, I guess once it gets 00:02:40.620 --> 00:02:43.379 out of my expertise level or, like, confident 00:02:43.379 --> 00:02:50.360 about my expertise level about it. Like, granted, 00:02:50.500 --> 00:02:53.240 we think we know what's going on with the Tacoma 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.680 now, but I was ready to take that to the shop 00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:57.479 because I was giving up trying to figure out 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:01.819 what was wrong with it. And we're trying to fix 00:03:01.819 --> 00:03:04.479 one thing, and now it's having different malfunctions 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.139 that we haven't dealt with yet. So we're like, 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:09.120 what the fuck is going on here? And it's consistent. 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:11.159 It's like every step of the way, there's something 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:16.139 else in the way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this 00:03:16.139 --> 00:03:18.979 is annoying. Don't get me wrong. We'll figure 00:03:18.979 --> 00:03:22.659 it out. Yeah. It just sucks that we started the 00:03:22.659 --> 00:03:24.400 weekend with two running trucks and finished 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:30.039 it with none. Oh, tankly one. Yeah. At least 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.960 one. Black one. At least one project that weekend 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:41.780 went all right -ish. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, 00:03:41.819 --> 00:03:46.060 man. I really don't think any project is above 00:03:46.060 --> 00:03:49.139 me. I think I can. youtube and bullshit my way 00:03:49.139 --> 00:03:54.900 through just about everything yeah like for the 00:03:54.900 --> 00:03:57.300 most part i have literally done everything to 00:03:57.300 --> 00:04:00.219 my truck myself with the help of you guys but 00:04:00.219 --> 00:04:04.360 like we've had zero time of actually going into 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:08.800 someone to get work done yeah i don't think since 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.080 i bought the forerunner it's never been to a 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:19.470 shop Other than tire mounting and balancing, 00:04:19.610 --> 00:04:24.069 because I can't do that. Oh, yeah. That being 00:04:24.069 --> 00:04:25.790 said, though, I am getting tired of working on 00:04:25.790 --> 00:04:28.350 my truck for the last almost four months now. 00:04:29.250 --> 00:04:31.149 Dude, I'm getting sick and tired of working on 00:04:31.149 --> 00:04:36.449 your truck. Which is funny, because you're annoyed 00:04:36.449 --> 00:04:39.350 with us working on your truck constantly. Yeah, 00:04:39.449 --> 00:04:44.810 why is this truck having issues? Yeah, I know. 00:04:45.069 --> 00:04:50.470 It's fun when you're doing a modification, right? 00:04:50.529 --> 00:04:52.670 When you're putting long travel on, when you're 00:04:52.670 --> 00:04:56.350 lifting or doing something like that. But when 00:04:56.350 --> 00:04:59.629 you're just fixing problems, it's not fun no 00:04:59.629 --> 00:05:03.730 more. No, it is not fun at all anymore. I'm pretty 00:05:03.730 --> 00:05:07.490 sure I have sunk almost $2 ,000 in this truck 00:05:07.490 --> 00:05:10.610 trying to fix it the last couple months. Yeah, 00:05:10.649 --> 00:05:14.370 yeah. That sounds about right. I'm at just about 00:05:14.370 --> 00:05:20.310 a grand already in my timing project. That whole 00:05:20.310 --> 00:05:23.949 thing, dude. Like, of all the times for something 00:05:23.949 --> 00:05:26.889 that was... No indication that anything was wrong. 00:05:27.069 --> 00:05:30.769 Truck never ran hot. You had no indication of 00:05:30.769 --> 00:05:33.189 that happening. Just all of a sudden it's dumping 00:05:33.189 --> 00:05:36.149 its coolant. Well, except for you had to put 00:05:36.149 --> 00:05:40.569 coolant in the day of or the day before. Yeah. 00:05:42.189 --> 00:05:46.410 yeah but that could have been just it burning 00:05:46.410 --> 00:05:48.269 it out and you're like oh i just he had more 00:05:48.269 --> 00:05:51.170 i hadn't checked the coolant in like eight months 00:05:51.170 --> 00:05:56.930 yeah i but no indication for the most part no 00:05:56.930 --> 00:06:00.970 smell of coolant no running hot nothing it just 00:06:00.970 --> 00:06:03.029 all of a sudden one day it was pouring coolant 00:06:03.029 --> 00:06:08.629 everywhere yeah This ain't your radiator crack 00:06:08.629 --> 00:06:13.889 like last time. Oh, my God, dude. Twice. Radiator 00:06:13.889 --> 00:06:17.029 cracks because it's old, so I replace it. Then, 00:06:17.230 --> 00:06:20.550 the day after I replace it, leaking coolant. 00:06:20.670 --> 00:06:29.250 Oh, brand new radiator's cracked. Yeah, I don't 00:06:29.250 --> 00:06:32.329 know, man. I mean, we'll get through it. It is 00:06:32.329 --> 00:06:39.769 what it is. All right. On to another topic. What 00:06:39.769 --> 00:06:43.069 are your build regrets? Things you regret either 00:06:43.069 --> 00:06:45.290 doing to the truck or you feel like was a waste 00:06:45.290 --> 00:06:59.569 of time. Mine was waiting so long to go long 00:06:59.569 --> 00:07:02.689 travel. All the front end rebuilds we did for 00:07:02.689 --> 00:07:15.560 no goddamn reason. I quite honestly don't think 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:20.800 I have anything. Because, like, first year owning 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:24.560 it, we ran it as is, trying to figure out all 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:28.399 the kinks that it had in it. Fixed most of that 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:33.800 with the bumpers the following year. Beyond that, 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:36.680 it was just probably of putting off the fucking 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:41.620 knock sensor thing. I don't think I've had any 00:07:41.620 --> 00:07:46.750 mods I hated so far I've done. My garden edging 00:07:46.750 --> 00:07:58.829 flares. They didn't look horrible. No. They were 00:07:58.829 --> 00:08:07.290 really annoying. Yeah, I can't think of anything. 00:08:07.529 --> 00:08:09.310 Too bad Gavin's not here, because I'm sure he's 00:08:09.310 --> 00:08:11.189 got a list of them with all the dumbass shit 00:08:11.189 --> 00:08:14.170 he's done to the... FJ. Yeah, I'm sure he has 00:08:14.170 --> 00:08:19.689 a list of stuff he's regretted doing. I regret 00:08:19.689 --> 00:08:22.370 for him the giant hole he cut for no reason in 00:08:22.370 --> 00:08:34.750 his bumper. Yeah. What is something you did in 00:08:34.750 --> 00:08:40.200 your first year of wheeling that You think that 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:51.100 now looking back was really dumb. I think buying 00:08:51.100 --> 00:08:53.039 the roof rack, the first roof rack with a black 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:58.799 truck. You think so? I don't know. It served 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:02.120 a purpose at the time. I'm trying to... I had 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:04.340 that truck sold shortly that year. I was trying 00:09:04.340 --> 00:09:07.830 to decide what was a regret from that one. If 00:09:07.830 --> 00:09:10.149 you hadn't rolled it, the roof rack would have 00:09:10.149 --> 00:09:13.909 been awesome. Yeah. Granted, it wasn't the type 00:09:13.909 --> 00:09:20.350 of roof rack you really wanted. I mean, kind 00:09:20.350 --> 00:09:24.070 of. I was looking. Because I think that allowed 00:09:24.070 --> 00:09:26.629 me to do it where I had basket sides. I was going 00:09:26.629 --> 00:09:28.929 to do the basket sides eventually. Yeah, yeah. 00:09:29.230 --> 00:09:33.769 So, I mean, it was something I wanted. I was 00:09:33.769 --> 00:09:41.279 going towards it. I think the spare tire being 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.860 up on the roof rack was kind of an eh thing at 00:09:43.860 --> 00:09:46.500 the time. Oh, I loved it, because where else 00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:50.940 were you supposed to put it? Oh, I know. I mean, 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:53.460 it was a pretty sick look, I'm not going to lie. 00:09:54.700 --> 00:09:57.279 Especially if you had ever gotten your cases 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:04.639 up there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Spare 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:07.259 tires on the roof are cool. They don't always 00:10:07.259 --> 00:10:08.820 work out the way you want them to, but they're 00:10:08.820 --> 00:10:13.240 pretty fucking cool. That being said, I have 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.740 seen a spare tire on a roof that did not make 00:10:15.740 --> 00:10:20.000 sense to me. It was, it looked like, I think 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.320 it was a Ram Dually. It was lifted. It was on 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:27.039 a truck cap on the rack. I'm like, how in the 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.480 world do you get that? And the truck cap sat 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:33.080 like probably almost four inches above the roof 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.090 of the truck. That sounds absolutely fucking 00:10:37.090 --> 00:10:40.789 ridiculous. And the tire was all the way forward 00:10:40.789 --> 00:10:42.909 on the roof rack, not, like, towards the rear 00:10:42.909 --> 00:10:45.929 of the truck. Dude, oh my god, I didn't tell 00:10:45.929 --> 00:10:48.269 you about this. The other day, when I was in 00:10:48.269 --> 00:10:52.950 Nuevo, I saw, like, a 2001 Town & Country with 00:10:52.950 --> 00:10:55.889 every single panel smashed in, and not, like, 00:10:55.909 --> 00:10:58.830 trail damage. Like, someone hit this thing, and 00:10:58.830 --> 00:11:02.129 mounted to the roof was, like, a brand new rooftop 00:11:02.129 --> 00:11:05.409 tent. And it was on the factory roof rack, just 00:11:05.409 --> 00:11:07.850 like... I don't know if they zip -tied it on 00:11:07.850 --> 00:11:11.809 or what, but this thing was like... And it wasn't 00:11:11.809 --> 00:11:14.610 a small rooftop tent. It was this big, massive 00:11:14.610 --> 00:11:18.990 honking thing. Hard shell. Like, it wasn't even 00:11:18.990 --> 00:11:22.009 a soft shell one. What the fuck? Yeah, dude, 00:11:22.029 --> 00:11:28.129 it was... It reminds me of that Subaru that drives 00:11:28.129 --> 00:11:32.370 around with a rooftop tent that's like... 15 00:11:32.370 --> 00:11:36.809 inches wider than the car and like hangs off 00:11:36.809 --> 00:11:38.970 the front of their rack it looks like they're 00:11:38.970 --> 00:11:44.549 about to take flight and fly away all right i 00:11:44.549 --> 00:11:48.769 guess that comes into another one what is the 00:11:48.769 --> 00:11:55.830 most useless modification that other people do 00:11:55.830 --> 00:12:01.190 to their trucks maybe not most useless but uh 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:12.240 Most money wasting. Or what you see as the most 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:13.840 money wasting. It might not be money wasting 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.820 for them, but what you think would be a waste 00:12:16.820 --> 00:12:24.899 of money. I mean, rooftop temp's pretty up there 00:12:24.899 --> 00:12:27.200 for that. You and me already talk about that 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.320 all the time, how that's a money waste. You know, 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:31.690 I don't know. I think rooftop temp's cool. Yeah, 00:12:31.730 --> 00:12:37.370 for me it is. Now, the one that I would go with 00:12:37.370 --> 00:12:42.830 is the pickup trucks with a metal frame and then 00:12:42.830 --> 00:12:48.649 a canvas topper inside it. Oh, yeah. You did 00:12:48.649 --> 00:12:51.450 realize I was going to do that, right? I know 00:12:51.450 --> 00:12:55.330 you were. It looks really sick. It really does. 00:12:55.610 --> 00:12:58.509 But the thing is, those canvas tops are not dust 00:12:58.509 --> 00:13:01.500 and waterproof tight, generally. No. So anything 00:13:01.500 --> 00:13:04.299 in there, they have mild protection from rain, 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:07.919 and they're going to be coated in dust, period. 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.840 Those metal frames, they're all right. I mean, 00:13:14.100 --> 00:13:15.440 if you're going to put a rooftop tent up there, 00:13:15.500 --> 00:13:20.059 that's one thing, but I see too many of them 00:13:20.059 --> 00:13:22.240 driving around with metal frames and nothing 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:27.139 on top of them. I think the only one I would 00:13:27.139 --> 00:13:29.509 have done for... was extrusion because they had 00:13:29.509 --> 00:13:34.309 a really good system yeah and i mean you know 00:13:34.309 --> 00:13:36.570 like i said those racks if you've got something 00:13:36.570 --> 00:13:38.070 you're going to be putting on a rack consistently 00:13:38.070 --> 00:13:39.990 like maybe you're going to put a kayak up there 00:13:39.990 --> 00:13:42.669 you know something like that okay that makes 00:13:42.669 --> 00:13:45.730 sense but like around here all i just see trucks 00:13:45.730 --> 00:13:48.269 driving around with the metal racks and they 00:13:48.269 --> 00:13:51.450 might have like a molly bag mounted to it and 00:13:51.450 --> 00:13:55.149 it's like guys what the fuck and then They'll 00:13:55.149 --> 00:13:57.970 always have those canvas toppers. They don't 00:13:57.970 --> 00:14:00.029 even offer protection to your crap in there. 00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:01.309 If someone wants it, they're just going to go 00:14:01.309 --> 00:14:09.070 cut it and reach in. Yeah. I just, I think that 00:14:09.070 --> 00:14:11.570 one's kind of a miss. I think that it's only 00:14:11.570 --> 00:14:14.350 for style points at that point. And it's hard 00:14:14.350 --> 00:14:16.169 to say you're doing it for any other reason. 00:14:17.029 --> 00:14:21.600 Yeah. Though a canvas topper with a cot in the 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:25.000 bed of a truck would make a pretty killer camp 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:29.500 setup. I mean, that was what I was going to do 00:14:29.500 --> 00:14:31.220 with the black truck, because I had the six -foot 00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:32.720 bed, so I would have been sleeping comfortable. 00:14:33.460 --> 00:14:37.080 Yeah. There's a company called Bambords that 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:43.039 fit wood boards through the whole half -rail 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.600 system in the truck, where you put plywood and 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:49.320 stuff on. yeah i mean i don't know i got slots 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:52.879 and stuff for that there are ways to make it 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.059 worth it it's just that most people it's like 00:14:55.059 --> 00:14:57.059 they spend all the money on the canvas topper 00:14:57.059 --> 00:15:00.100 and the frame and then they give up after that 00:15:00.100 --> 00:15:03.720 oh yeah like shit dude there's a there was okay 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.159 that's he sold it now there was this first gen 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.740 tacoma that drove around grant that that's all 00:15:08.740 --> 00:15:13.899 he had like a rooftop rack system and a canvas 00:15:13.899 --> 00:15:16.360 topper And that was all that was done to the 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:19.460 truck. It was on like 15 inch wheels with like 00:15:19.460 --> 00:15:26.240 28. Like it was. I think if I kept with the black 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.740 truck, as long as I didn't roll it, I think I 00:15:28.740 --> 00:15:31.179 would have just done the canvas top and then 00:15:31.179 --> 00:15:33.399 set it up for camping. And I don't know if I 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.240 was going to still do the extrusion rails, but 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:38.419 that was a further down the road thing. Cause 00:15:38.419 --> 00:15:42.159 how expensive that could be. I don't know. The 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:43.620 black truck would have been pretty sick with 00:15:43.620 --> 00:15:45.519 a canvas top and you just sleeping out of the 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:48.480 back of it. I wish that when you'd bought the 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:50.620 silver truck, I wish you'd gotten one with a 00:15:50.620 --> 00:15:56.860 six foot bed. Cause in all honesty, sorry, my 00:15:56.860 --> 00:15:58.600 chair wouldn't lock. It was trying to tip all 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:04.840 the time. In all honesty, as cool as having that 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.779 extra departure angle is on the shorter bed. 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.059 A six -foot bed just has so many other gains. 00:16:11.899 --> 00:16:16.600 Oh, yeah, I know. I've been back and forth about 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:21.919 it. After owning the cat briefly on the current 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:24.539 truck, I was like, man, I don't want to crawl 00:16:24.539 --> 00:16:27.159 in and out of this bed anymore. What was I thinking 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.759 about sleeping out of this? And I was going to 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:34.200 shrink my window down even further. Yeah, I mean, 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:39.720 there is that. I think it'd be different, though, 00:16:39.740 --> 00:16:42.500 if you had, like, some type of pad underneath. 00:16:43.460 --> 00:16:47.120 Oh, right, but you were gonna... I think you 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:52.240 could've made it pretty okay. Yeah. I think it 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.700 would've been probably better off without the 00:16:54.700 --> 00:16:57.340 bandboard system like I was going to. I had a 00:16:57.340 --> 00:16:59.860 mattress fit around the wheel wells and stuff. 00:17:01.059 --> 00:17:04.799 Yeah. The big downside to that is you lose literally 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:09.599 all of your storage. unless you had like a half 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:13.839 bed thing yeah i don't know sleeping in the back 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.819 of your truck sounds so romantic and amazing 00:17:16.819 --> 00:17:19.039 and when i say romantic i don't mean man woman 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:23.799 romantic i mean like uh hot tent with camp or 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:30.940 with fire thing going romantic just the idea 00:17:30.940 --> 00:17:33.119 of having a tent just folds out of nowhere and 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:34.799 you're sleeping in the bed of the truck where 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:43.440 you go Sorry, I had to... Damn it, I'm not done 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:49.200 dying. Yeah, I don't know. When it comes to third 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:51.440 gens, there aren't a whole lot of mods I see 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:54.160 people do that are dumb. There's this one guy, 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.140 and hopefully he doesn't listen to us. I don't 00:17:56.140 --> 00:18:00.099 know. He posts all over the page about his Pizza 00:18:00.099 --> 00:18:03.819 Planet third gen. That's pretty annoying. it's 00:18:03.819 --> 00:18:06.599 so ugly dude like the pizza planet truck was 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:09.339 not a third gen forerunner so why do you make 00:18:09.339 --> 00:18:13.900 a pizza planet based third gen forerunner i don't 00:18:13.900 --> 00:18:15.779 think i've seen that one i've seen the actual 00:18:15.779 --> 00:18:18.940 pickup as literally one for one for it but i'm 00:18:18.940 --> 00:18:22.799 okay i'm okay with that that makes sense yeah 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:29.819 has there yes has there ever been a third gen 00:18:29.819 --> 00:18:34.799 forerunner hero car I guess I don't know what 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.180 you're referring to. Uh, like the, a popular, 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:43.019 um, the main vehicle from a movie. Oh, gotcha. 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:49.920 Probably some random sci -fi never heard of until 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:52.519 you actually see it once. Then I want to watch 00:18:52.519 --> 00:19:00.559 it. Yeah. There is a database with 610 movies 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:05.420 and shows that have forerunners in it. apparently 00:19:05.420 --> 00:19:09.319 the first black panther movie had a forerunner 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:14.519 use in action scenes like third gen forerunner 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:20.720 or fifth gen third gen black panther 2018 and 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:24.799 the movie baby boy in 2001 had a third gen forerunner 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:29.660 oh just spotted in the film not it was just spotted 00:19:29.660 --> 00:19:35.220 not actually There's a difference between spotted, 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:37.539 because I've seen so many virgins at that point. 00:19:37.859 --> 00:19:44.259 Yeah. That's funny. I guess another mod I hate, 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:48.740 I mean, it's cheap, is the whole Amazon bumper 00:19:48.740 --> 00:19:52.279 thing. It's like the same thing, cookie cut, 00:19:52.539 --> 00:19:56.759 and everyone just goes for it because it's cheap. 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:03.890 I... also dislike amazon bumpers and not even 00:20:03.890 --> 00:20:05.869 from the cookie cutter standpoint like whatever 00:20:05.869 --> 00:20:09.369 for me it's because they tend to be made of shitty 00:20:09.369 --> 00:20:14.170 material oh they have no recovery benefits whatsoever 00:20:14.170 --> 00:20:16.609 and they have almost no structural integrity 00:20:16.609 --> 00:20:22.829 in the case of an accident yeah yeah i it really 00:20:22.829 --> 00:20:26.180 bothers me And from the cookie cutter standpoint, 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:28.480 I can't say much because I have a Trail Gear 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:32.200 front bumper and a Trail Gear rear bumper, which 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:33.900 is pretty... I wouldn't necessarily call it a 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:37.319 cookie cutter, though. Oh, it definitely is for 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:40.500 4Runners, dude. The Trail Gear rear bumper is 00:20:40.500 --> 00:20:45.279 like the most common rear bumper I've seen. Okay. 00:20:45.779 --> 00:20:48.400 How many actually redesigned it that way, though? 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:53.019 What do you mean? Like, how many listings have 00:20:53.019 --> 00:20:55.980 you seen besides Trail Gear themselves selling 00:20:55.980 --> 00:21:00.599 it? I've only seen Trail Gear's. Yeah, that's 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:03.319 Trail Gear, the brand itself, not another brand 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.339 with the same exact look. Yeah, I haven't seen 00:21:06.339 --> 00:21:08.839 any other similar. I mean, there's some with 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:11.180 similar looks, but you can tell when it's a Trail 00:21:11.180 --> 00:21:13.839 Gear and when it's something else. Like, 4xInnovations, 00:21:13.859 --> 00:21:18.559 I think, has one that's similar. Okay, well, 00:21:18.619 --> 00:21:21.400 that's... i think you're missing what i'm getting 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:26.180 when i can we got hooky we can clearly see hooky 00:21:26.180 --> 00:21:28.700 and you see slowly labeled totally different 00:21:28.700 --> 00:21:31.619 but it's literally the same thing just slightly 00:21:31.619 --> 00:21:35.519 modified it yeah yeah i don't you don't see that 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:39.779 no like trail gear def they make their product 00:21:39.779 --> 00:21:44.859 they're not some amazon uh like white label shipper 00:21:44.859 --> 00:21:49.819 by any means yeah it just They make a lot more 00:21:49.819 --> 00:21:52.579 bumpers than the average person or average company. 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.400 And there's a lot of third gens with the trail 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.519 gear rear bumper. So it seems cookie cutter. 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.980 It is a small market though. And there aren't 00:22:03.980 --> 00:22:06.759 a whole, there aren't a whole lot of them. No. 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:09.599 So it's kind of hard not to be cookie cutter. 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:13.119 Yeah. You're literally the only one in the market 00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:17.920 currently. It's like with. uh, Cherokee trail 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:19.980 Hawks, how there's only one bumper if you want 00:22:19.980 --> 00:22:25.859 an aftermarket bumper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.200 look how long it took me to find a rear bumper. 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.740 I like for my truck because I was trying to match 00:22:31.740 --> 00:22:35.519 the front, but it was either all two or all plated. 00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:40.480 There was no hybrid between the two. I like your 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.680 hybrid. Oh, sorry. I'm yawning guys. It's been, 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:46.769 it's been a week. I like your hybrid rear bumper. 00:22:47.549 --> 00:22:50.829 Oh, yeah. Little B, I love the Little B. I was 00:22:50.829 --> 00:22:55.049 so glad when I bought the C4 that that came out, 00:22:55.069 --> 00:22:57.990 like, two months prior. I just discovered it. 00:22:57.990 --> 00:23:00.910 I'm like, oh, there's the bumper. It matches 00:23:00.910 --> 00:23:05.650 my C4 bumper. Too bad C4 and Little Bs didn't 00:23:05.650 --> 00:23:07.150 work together, because then you could just have 00:23:07.150 --> 00:23:15.319 Rockrunner on both ends. Lil B's front bumper 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:21.019 is okay. It's a lot more like C4's hybrid. It's 00:23:21.019 --> 00:23:23.460 just C4 had the high clearance front bumper and 00:23:23.460 --> 00:23:30.619 it was what I wanted to do with. Just because 00:23:30.619 --> 00:23:33.799 of what we do. Yeah. Yeah. High clearance is 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.759 pretty important for us. I mean, mine is like 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:44.309 in line with my body. So that's nice. god i can't 00:23:44.309 --> 00:23:50.890 wait to fix that truck dude i i just it makes 00:23:50.890 --> 00:23:53.890 no sense that it decided right then and the worst 00:23:53.890 --> 00:23:57.250 part was i took the timing cover off right belts 00:23:57.250 --> 00:24:00.569 are perfect i mean everything is so pretty but 00:24:00.569 --> 00:24:07.890 there's water seeping out of the weep hole how 00:24:07.890 --> 00:24:11.089 wrong would it be to just change the water pump 00:24:12.970 --> 00:24:19.250 timing was just done yeah like 70 000 miles ago 00:24:19.250 --> 00:24:30.970 so maybe we'll just change the water pump we'll 00:24:30.970 --> 00:24:33.230 see how that works because like i know it's driven 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:36.170 by the timing but maybe we can like release tension 00:24:36.170 --> 00:24:41.049 off the uh belt You know, slide the belt off, 00:24:41.130 --> 00:24:43.289 put the water pump on, put everything back on 00:24:43.289 --> 00:24:51.390 without having to adjust anything. Yeah. I guess 00:24:51.390 --> 00:24:53.190 I don't know too much about timing. That's the 00:24:53.190 --> 00:24:54.490 reason why I have no idea how you're going to 00:24:54.490 --> 00:24:59.549 do this. Oh, I started the part one of Timmy 00:24:59.549 --> 00:25:01.930 the Toolman's video. I made it an hour in before 00:25:01.930 --> 00:25:06.450 I fell asleep. An hour of the two -hour video. 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:14.940 Part one. Oh, man. I mean, Grant, I know he's 00:25:14.940 --> 00:25:17.279 gonna be more in -depth, so he's, like, not gonna 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:20.660 speed up time frame of Teardown like some videos. 00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:26.119 Yeah, it's... We'll see how it goes, man. It's 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:27.940 quoted as, like, an eight - or nine -hour job. 00:25:29.500 --> 00:25:36.119 God. But it has to be done. Eight or nine hours. 00:25:36.220 --> 00:25:44.400 nine days later. Oh god. At least it's third 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.680 gen and not a second gen Tacoma. It should go 00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:56.940 much faster. Yeah, it's something, dude. I really 00:25:56.940 --> 00:26:01.240 hope we get that fixed and there's nothing wrong 00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:08.039 for it. Like, for a while. I just hope that we 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.880 swap that out. God damn it. It's a fucking lag. 00:26:13.700 --> 00:26:16.180 I just hope that we swap that out and then it 00:26:16.180 --> 00:26:19.339 just runs right after that. Oh, yeah. I hope 00:26:19.339 --> 00:26:22.140 so, too. And I hope that I don't have to deal 00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:25.140 with another knock sensor teardown until either 00:26:25.140 --> 00:26:28.559 way down the road or I have a different truck. 00:26:29.380 --> 00:26:31.940 You better never have to do a knock sensor teardown 00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:37.569 again. This better be the last time. yeah yeah 00:26:37.569 --> 00:26:41.490 it just doesn't make sense it's such a bad spot 00:26:41.490 --> 00:26:46.789 to put the knock sensor and patrick had some 00:26:46.789 --> 00:26:50.369 had the idea of moving it which i love that idea 00:26:50.369 --> 00:26:53.089 patrick kissman uh midwest adventure outfitters 00:26:53.089 --> 00:26:56.990 great guy best toyota mechanic in the business 00:26:56.990 --> 00:27:00.309 hands down go there to do whatever any of your 00:27:00.309 --> 00:27:05.039 toyota repairs but he uh And that's not me just, 00:27:05.099 --> 00:27:07.940 like, quoting an ad. They do not sponsor us whatsoever. 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.079 Just Patrick is that good of a mechanic. And 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.900 he's like, yeah, you should just move it to the 00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:16.900 outside of the block. And I'm, like, looking 00:27:16.900 --> 00:27:18.759 at it. I'm like, dude, where the fuck do we put 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:24.559 it there? Yeah. There's, like, one exposed there, 00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.660 and there's one that's, like, way tucked underneath 00:27:26.660 --> 00:27:30.940 a bunch of stuff. Like, we've got, like, run 00:27:30.940 --> 00:27:34.319 wires and all that. yeah we were trying to do 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.779 it quick in the future if i ever have to do it 00:27:36.779 --> 00:27:38.759 again i probably will try and move it outboard 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.740 and then make a write -up on how i did it so 00:27:42.740 --> 00:27:46.859 that yeah because it's stupid to have it in the 00:27:46.859 --> 00:27:53.799 valley like that i mean it sucks that we could 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.960 have probably put an actual video out there that 00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:59.740 was more instructful than any of the videos we've 00:27:59.740 --> 00:28:05.180 looked at The only video we had that was a teardown 00:28:05.180 --> 00:28:07.799 was just a speed -up video with zero details 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:12.019 like what size bolts, what tools, and none of 00:28:12.019 --> 00:28:15.039 that. But then we dealt with problem after problem 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.220 after problem, which I guess if you're watching 00:28:17.220 --> 00:28:19.440 a video, you want to learn all the possibilities. 00:28:20.259 --> 00:28:24.559 Yeah. But at the same time, we were frustrated, 00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:29.480 so there was no way we were recording. No. Between... 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.299 Fuel injectors weren't fully set in because of 00:28:32.299 --> 00:28:35.700 a mad seal, so we were dumping fuel out. It ran 00:28:35.700 --> 00:28:41.119 okay that time. Yeah. I thought we had another 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.619 issue before that. Oh, no, it was the solenoid, 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:49.160 wasn't it? Yeah. We had something happen before 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.200 the fuel injectors did that. Yeah, the other 00:28:51.200 --> 00:29:02.660 solenoid. Yeah. Yeah. Mark, I'm out of topics. 00:29:06.779 --> 00:29:09.539 We've driven... Do you have any voicemails? No, 00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.859 I already checked. Okay. I kind of figured you 00:29:12.859 --> 00:29:16.180 would check. We don't really bullshit the way 00:29:16.180 --> 00:29:18.640 Gavin does, so we can't just make shit up on 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:27.549 the fly. I don't know. I just chat GPT some good 00:29:27.549 --> 00:29:29.569 topics and they're all stuff that we've talked 00:29:29.569 --> 00:29:34.230 about a hundred times. So like, Oh, my favorite. 00:29:34.829 --> 00:29:38.509 They're a very bottom recommendation for a topic. 00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:41.990 Interview a local Wheeler or small off road shop. 00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:44.650 Bro. Do you know how many times we've done that? 00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:51.650 Cause do we have anything planned interview wise 00:29:51.650 --> 00:29:56.059 yet or no? nah if anyone wants an interview and 00:29:56.059 --> 00:29:58.299 wants to be on a podcast please reach out to 00:29:58.299 --> 00:30:01.960 me like i haven't had time to really reach out 00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:05.960 to anybody i reached out to one guy and he's 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:08.799 like how many followers do you have and i'm like 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.759 well it's rss based so we can't really tell you 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.420 like how many followers or subscribers we have 00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.460 and he's like he just never responded to me after 00:30:18.460 --> 00:30:22.259 that i'm like I'm sorry that it's not a social 00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:26.140 media podcast. It's not the fake podcast. It's 00:30:26.140 --> 00:30:33.480 a real full -blown podcast. Yeah. Yeah. I was 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:35.779 on one of those social media podcasts once, and 00:30:35.779 --> 00:30:40.140 he took out of context something I said and still 00:30:40.140 --> 00:30:45.559 blasts it every day or two. Yeah. And I'm like, 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.930 bro. You're not even giving the full context 00:30:48.930 --> 00:30:50.650 of the conversation, and then you're making me 00:30:50.650 --> 00:30:54.470 look like a fucking idiot. Yeah. And then the 00:30:54.470 --> 00:30:57.470 way that his AI editor does things, it stretches 00:30:57.470 --> 00:31:00.710 me. And I'm fat, but it makes me look really 00:31:00.710 --> 00:31:08.130 fat. Yeah. I would not want to ever do that to 00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:12.349 one of our listeners. No. It just doesn't even 00:31:12.349 --> 00:31:17.099 seem appropriate. No. Yeah, you know, on that 00:31:17.099 --> 00:31:18.740 point, you're getting two 30 -minute episodes 00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:21.779 this week because I think that's all we got. 00:31:21.900 --> 00:31:26.359 So we'll catch you guys later. Yep. Later, guys.