Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Hi, my voice didn't
crack. That's a good start to the evening. This
is a wrap. We all know Gavin didn't do anything.
Nothing. Yeah. He's a very boring individual.
Yeah, I guess so, man. Winter really slows down
my mojo. Like, I can't. I just can't. Like, if
the kid can't go outside and work with me. then
I can't really go outside and work because I'm
watching him all the time. Yeah. I don't know.
Winter doesn't really slow my mojo too much.
I even worked outside in the cold to cut my bumper
off. Yeah, if I had someone to watch the kid
while I was working outside, that would be one
thing. Yeah, no, I feel it. I feel it. Yeah,
there's just no – like I said, I go and – like
I say every wrap. I just go through the same
shit I have already and check batteries and maybe
label one more thing. It's the same shit. Gavin,
are all your batteries charged? Yeah. Yep. Okay,
good. Everything's maintained, organized, ready.
Yeah, so Friday night we played cards as we do
once a month. Nothing too noteworthy there. I
mean, my dad played with us. That was pretty
fun. Yeah. Saturday, one of my army buddies came
up and helped us work on cars. We cut the bumper
off my 4Runner, which took, would you say like
six hours? Yeah. It didn't help that we could
only work in short periods of time because it
was cold outside. Yeah, and we kept draining
the batteries on the grinder. We need to just
get overheating them. We just need a quarter
grinder at this point. I'm surprised you didn't
set up the awning and throw both diesel heaters
going into the awning and have the truck front
end sitting inside the doorway. We actually could
have with my truck. Yeah. That's all right. But
then we would have to figure out how to get out.
Yeah, under the truck. Yeah. Well, I mean, put
all the tools on the inside. I mean, you could
have done it like, you know, I don't know. I
was just thinking about it there for a second.
So yeah, we got that off. Dude, that was a bitch.
So we got the main bulk of the bumper off. Did
you put that in my shed, by the way? Yes. How
did you find room? I was like, bring it up by
the shed. And then I was like, bring it up by
the shed. And then today I realized I didn't
see it. And I'm like, wait, it's got to be in
the shed. I move stuff around so I can lay on
there without being on anything. So, yeah, we
cut the main bulk of the bumper off, and that
didn't take long. Then we had to clean all the
welds and other bullshit metal off the frame
horns to fit the new bumper mount. Oh, my God,
did that take a long time. I ended up having
to run up to O 'Reilly's in... Grand Rapids because
they were the only place left open that would
have grinder discs. And I got there with a minute
to spare to get my grinder discs. Bro, why didn't
you just call me? You could have just came over
and picked up a pile of mine. You're right. That
probably would have worked. Well, I bought 30,
so I'm not going to run out. Yeah, we're good
for a bit. Yeah, it was funny that it took you
so long. When you said it took like six hours
to take your bumper off, I was like, that's funny
because in like five minutes you popped it off
already. So I was like, couldn't take that much
longer to get the rest of it off. No, I only
had part of it off. Just a spot of it was off.
No, it was a bitch, dude. Like, there was so
much. Because we really welded and reinforced
it really strong. The spot that broke was because
it had torn a small part of the frame. Yeah,
that sucks. Yeah, that was one of the other things
that we were trying to break all the welds about
taking chunks out of the frame as well. I mean,
that's a crazy thing you have to worry about,
too. I don't want to rip out the frame. Not that
it necessarily would have mattered because the
new bumper mount does not mount to that part
of the frame at all. Well, you cleaned it up,
so. Yeah, it looks good. It's all painted black
with tractor enamel now. Hey, it'll last forever
now, right? Right? We'll see. Hopefully longer
than the other bumpers painted because I was
getting tired of touching that up every couple
months. Yeah, I don't see like that doesn't bother
me much, but. I touch my stuff up every few months,
and that's just one of those things where it's
kind of enjoyable for me. I just kind of come
up there and I'm like, shh, shh. But I don't
really prep anything either. I just walk out
into my dusty driveway. It's like, oh, did you
Rhino -Line that? I'm like, no, it's just paint.
The dust kind of got kicked up into it. So it
looks like Rhino -Liner. I don't know. I don't
like when my bumper is rusting because the paint
all flaked off it. I don't have any flaking.
I just kind of, well done. Or I get one of my
Sharpies out of my glove box and go, and clean
that up real quick. Show ready. Show ready. You
also don't have any bumpers that came in raw
steel. No. Well, in that, my truck, as far as
rust goes, is better off. than most trucks in
michigan right now yeah so i don't have the massive
amount of flaking and stuff that's going on so
yeah it doesn't really affect me as much so yet
and just in general you don't have any bumpers
that came in raw steel so you're not dealing
with the same level of annoyance as what i was
yeah no i so the only thing that really that
i really have to go over once a year or so is
at this point the winch bumper the hideaway winch
bumper part the front and then my back steel
bumper which every once in a while i'll see a
flake here there or rust will start coming on
on my ball hitch area so i'll just like throw
a coat of paint on it just to clean it up a little
bit but and then my wheels those those are like
every six months but That only takes like two
minutes a wheel, so it's not like it matters.
Oh, my God. I have to take poops longer than
it takes to spray paint, clean up the wheels
a little. I have spray painted my wheels once,
and it was after I drove them into a guardrail
because I fell asleep. Yeah? Yeah. I don't know,
man. You know what? Maybe everyone's real nice
to me, but nobody makes comments on how shitty
or how stupid my wheels look spray painted. I
don't think they're horribly done. It's not like
you could see drips coming from them. No, they
don't look terrible. I mean, I've spray painted
factory wheels before. Yeah. I actually don't
mind them the way they look now. I thought about
doing bronze, but I don't think bronze would
look very good with those factory wheels. No,
I don't either. No. Yeah, what else happened?
Really, the bumper was the big thing. Dude, that
took so fucking long. Like, between the cold
and batteries being dead and just everything,
it fucking sucked. Then I did... We came up with
a new way to do wheel bearings on first -gen
Tacomas, third -gen 4Runners, and first -gen
Tundras, and first -gen Sequoias. So if you get...
yeah your fj is not in this category no you get
you mean bolt on yeah so if you get a piece of
angle iron and you drill two holes that match
up with the uh lower ball joint mount then you
have something to brace on to press the bearing
out and it makes your life so much easier um
i did a bearing from start to finish in under
20 minutes which generally it takes me longer
than that just to get the press set up yep I
mean, I did bend the angle iron, so when I go
to make the official tool, now that I've proven
it works, I've got to reinforce it somehow. Well,
we know your welds hold, so nothing to worry
about. Yeah, my welds hold great. We also worked
on the black 4Runner. My brother did. That's
what I was talking about, was the wheel bearings
on the black truck. Yeah, I'm still waiting back
on my taxes. It's taking forever. I don't know
why it's taking so long. I don't know why it's
taking State so long to send me mine. Jesus.
I just want to get that tent, man. I want to
set it up in the house. I just want to, like,
go over it. I'm getting impatient. And my bumper
has officially left Salt Lake City, even though
it sat there for, like, a week. Oh, jeez. Yeah,
I think. Did they come out of America or did
they get shipped into America? What, my bumper?
That's from America. Yeah. We're made in California.
Yeah, so I had stuff from Bison Gear get on a
temporary hold because they didn't have all the
proper documentation. It turned out that it was
there, but it wasn't in the right place for the
box or something like that to be shipped over
and everything. So it was in a temporary hold
for like a week, and then finally it got let
go, and they let it come over. And I was like,
thanks. But I had nothing on it. Yeah, no. Mine
comes from California and just sat in Utah for
a week for literally no reason. Probably weather.
Maybe. Who knows? Right now it's on its way to
Chicago, and they say that it should be arriving
tomorrow. So we'll see what happens. Who's all
down to quit our jobs for the week and move to
New York City? Fuck no. Bro, we could make so
much money. We could make fucking bank, Mark.
Have you seen how much they're paying you to
shovel sidewalks? $35 now. Yeah, but don't you
need to show papers or something like that? Two
forms ID. Five now. Oh, it said two when I was
looking at it earlier, which is just an I -9.
It has to be a New York ID. You know, it's worth
it. Fuck, $30 an hour? It's more than any of
us are making. It's not that much more than I'm
making. Yeah, I mean... Not much more than me.
But it is, right? I can't get rid of my housing
for just a week of a job. I mean, you have a
week of vacation. You could just... I could take
a week of vacation, yeah. Dude, we could rotate.
I don't think that shoveling snow in New York
is the safest job. Oh, I think it's just funny.
I watch videos of some of these guys that are
working. I'm like, these are some of the shittiest
snow shovelers I think I've ever seen. Like,
they were moving. Yeah, that's the issue with
it, is kind of the issue, is that they're picking
up a handful of snow, like this big, with a shovel.
and are like slowly tossing it and then slowly
going back. It's like, are you getting paid $30
an hour to do that? Fuck, dude. And then there's
just one supervisor sitting there watching them
do it. It's like, I want to be a supervisor.
Pay me $30 an hour to watch these people. I wonder
how much budget they actually have for that.
How long is it before they run out of money?
Is it? Are they just taking some money from the
road or the, what do you call it, the plow companies
and stuff that can't keep up? Yeah, the road
commission. They're a city, not a country, so
there's an end to the funding somewhere. Yeah.
Well, I know they upped it from 20 to 30 for
the blizzard, so. Maybe they're just going to
do it for Blizzard or something. I think it's
a cool idea on a base level. I think that that's
a really good idea for that. I think that our
country could take, let's say, half a billion
dollars out of our military budget. Yeah, I'm
saying it. Half a bill. out of our military budget
and put more money towards people picking out
trash, people maintaining sidewalks and sweeping
and cleaning and just cleaning up bullshit in
general, snow shoveling, like just basic upkeep.
I think that that should come out of somewhere
where money gets stolen out of more than military
funding. I think it'd be better. And that should
be done. That should be done more at a state
-slash -city level. Like, New York doing it at
a city level makes perfect sense. But federal
government giving funding for that, that's dumb.
It should be small government, not big government.
Because the minute that the big government gets
involved, things fall apart. Yeah, I think that
there's more money overhead for that, for the
big government. They should allot it to a state,
and then the state should be able to work with
it. how they i don't know i see fit but i not
that i trust states to do that right either but
i also don't think oh hot take we're getting
political god damn i don't i don't think it's
political necessarily as it is i i don't think
that the federal government should be giving
states any money they shouldn't be giving them
and except for like emergency aid right other
than that The state should handle themselves.
They should set up their trades. They should
act like a small country, just like everywhere
else in the world. Yeah, but we're the United
States. We are united. That's why we share under
one board. That's why we share our defense budget.
That's why we share our emergency budget. But
that does not mean that the federal government
should regulate every single thing that a state
does. I don't think regulate everything, but
I don't think they should. completely not fund
states either oh if if they're giving funding
it's regulated period that's how that works well
i mean states should be states should be making
their own budget states should be making their
own money yeah hey now i'm not saying the states
don't sell something to the federal government
that could be a thing but it should not be funded
by the federal government no i don't know no
But on a more fun note, 4Runner's going to look
sick. I think I'm going to paint my new bumper
high -vis orange. You might get commissioned
by the road commission. Maybe I'll put some reflective
tape along the bars. No, you should do it down
the side, right in the middle, like where they
have the old -school Toyota decals. You know,
like the red, the orange, and the yellow? Just
do reflective high -vis. me and josh were talking
about this while he was up here do you think
it would be illegal to paint your car in a clear
glow -in -the -dark paint clear glow -in -the
-dark yeah so when you paint the car you can't
tell there's any clear or glow -in -the -dark
but then at nighttime it glows would that be
illegal i think that would depend on the severity
of it like how strong the whole thing no the
whole thing no i'm talking about like how strong
it glows If it's going to be a distraction or
something. Because didn't they make it illegal
to have a mirror surface on your car? Because
someone polished a whole Tesla, and they drove
it around, and they immediately got taken off
the road because it was reflecting the sun and
shit back on people driving and reflecting light
back. Yeah, so I guess they can take your car
off the road for it being too distracting. Wow.
Which doesn't make sense because you have the
Oscar Mayer Wienermobile, and that's legal, and
that's fucking distracting. If I see a giant
wiener driving past me, my neck's breaking. That's
a problem. I'm going to try to look down that
wiener. Tell me I'm wrong. Don't you remember
being a kid and you're like, dude, it's the Oscar
Mayer Wienermobile? Hell yeah. Dude, that was
breaking my own neck to see it. Or the Six Flag
Bus. Have you ever seen the reel of the Six Flag
Bus? Hell yeah. Have you ever seen the reel of
the guys, they step outside, one's looking up,
and he just goes, hell yeah. And then another
guy walks out and he goes, what you looking at?
And he goes, helicopter. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
And they're all like different walks of life.
See, that's us with the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile.
Hell yeah, dude. Look at them wieners. Everybody
can admire that, man. You know the only thing
that could make the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile
better is if they had a bunch of little wiener
dogs in hot dogs sitting in the seats. I think
instead of the hot dog, like in the bun, it should
be a wiener dog. I think that would be. Hell
yeah. Hell yeah. With like a little hat. With
little wiener dogs. With a little hat with a
propeller on it. Yeah. And then when they park
it, everywhere they park it, just a herd of little
wiener dogs comes out. Hell yeah. Dude, I'd be
in love. Hell yeah. I would pay money to see
this car. Yeah. You know, it's like me and the
Six Flags bus. That old man comes out and he
starts break dancing. Hell yeah. That was my
shit. Brings me back to the olden days. That's
like when 4Runners, that was back when 3rd Gen
4Runners were cool. 3rd Gen 4Runners were always
cool. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I
said. 3rd Gen 4Runners are timeless. They're
not like FJs that lose their coolness over a
couple years. Yeah, says the value of my FJ.
They're still cool. They're like one of those
ugly oddities that keep value. Did the value
of your FJ go down? No. What is it? I don't even
know. You KBB a value of an FJ, and it's always
going to be garbage. I mean, same thing with
the third gen. But no, it hasn't. It slowly kind
of goes up on KBB, but God, they did a value
on my Subaru. when I was trying to get a loan
using it, and they valued it at like $11 ,000.
And I was like, there's no way. There's no way.
All right, let's see what your value is on KBB,
and then I'll look up mine because I kind of
already know what mine is. I would say mine's
probably at like $6 ,000. I'm even going to say
they're both excellent just to keep things. It
is excellent. Got barely any rust on it. All
right, your KBB is 6 ,200 to 8 ,000. That's a
2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser. That's such horseshit.
Oh, dude, it's horseshit for me, too. Toyota
4Runner. All right, both of these I'm just putting
$200 ,000 just to make them even. Price with
standard equipment. Just curious about my value.
I remember when KBB didn't ask all these bullshit
fucking questions. Yeah, it's like going to AutoZone,
telling them you need wipers. Two or four wheel
drive. Info currently not available. Damn, dude.
They're like, I hope you got PLPD on that piece
of turd. What the fuck? They used to give an
actual answer to that question. This is kind
of crazy. Maybe they don't even value it anymore.
I guess not. I just looked it up recently, though.
That's why I'm so confused. I wonder what it
would say for... I think it'd probably just be
closer to 8K. But with the 155 ,000 miles on
it, I'm curious if that affects it anymore. But
that's interesting. 8K, that's some horse shit.
Yeah, it comes up to about the same thing. Yeah,
that's horse shit. Instead of 62 .50, it's 63
to 8. Well, that kind of speaks to the engine
life. They're like, yeah, that doesn't really
matter. 50 ,000 miles doesn't really matter.
At newer vehicles, that's make or break. If you
have 100 ,000 miles on a 2023, you're like, dude,
that thing's about to blow. Yeah, I don't know.
That's fucking crazy. That's definitely not the
value. Should we get over to the hour and listen
to some voicemails? Yeah, I suppose. Enjoy our
wiener time. Ah, the wiener episode. The wiener
episode.