WEBVTT 00:00:01.169 --> 00:00:04.889 Welcome to botches off road. I hope the listeners 00:00:04.889 --> 00:00:07.209 didn't miss me at the intro too much last week 00:00:07.209 --> 00:00:12.050 or for the rap. Yeah. For the first seven minutes 00:00:12.050 --> 00:00:15.550 that we were last up where you came in. Yeah. 00:00:15.769 --> 00:00:19.210 I was like, I was sitting here at my computer 00:00:19.210 --> 00:00:22.730 while John's computer trying to fix an instability 00:00:22.730 --> 00:00:25.570 issue. And I was like, you know what? I do want 00:00:25.570 --> 00:00:29.500 to record. I really do want to record. So it 00:00:29.500 --> 00:00:32.179 was funny because I was me and him talked for 00:00:32.179 --> 00:00:36.320 like an hour and a half this morning and Phone 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.600 and I was like fuck if we could talk for an hour 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:40.439 and a half this morning on the phone He could 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.060 talk with me later like we should have just recorded 00:00:43.060 --> 00:00:45.939 and when we talked for an hour and a half this 00:00:45.939 --> 00:00:49.039 morning I was like, you know that really it kind 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:51.140 of hurt but it wasn't that bad. I didn't cough 00:00:51.140 --> 00:00:54.679 that much. Maybe I'm better so I just said, screw 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.520 it. I'm going to record. Don't mind me. I'm putting 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:02.759 numbing, um, mouth pain liquid into one of my 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.120 cavities or something. Cause your boy's struggling. 00:01:06.299 --> 00:01:10.519 Yeah. Well, last, so the last time I think I 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:12.459 said something about it, it was like my wisdom 00:01:12.459 --> 00:01:16.700 teeth area. Now I sense that stopped for like 00:01:16.700 --> 00:01:20.209 a week. I was good. Like no pain at all. I was 00:01:20.209 --> 00:01:22.730 like, cool. Now I could forget about it again 00:01:22.730 --> 00:01:31.629 and keep going. And then then I was eating was 00:01:31.629 --> 00:01:34.530 a prosciutto, some other kind of fancy meat that 00:01:34.530 --> 00:01:37.750 had peppercorn kernels in it. I would say it's 00:01:37.750 --> 00:01:41.189 an apple. It's always a fucking no. It was a 00:01:41.189 --> 00:01:44.030 it was a peppercorn kernel in one of those fancy 00:01:44.030 --> 00:01:47.510 meats that has peppercorns in it. And I was eating 00:01:47.510 --> 00:01:51.250 the bagel. Bagels soft, cream cheese soft, hard 00:01:51.250 --> 00:01:54.170 salami, it didn't have any peppercorns soft. 00:01:54.730 --> 00:01:58.950 And I bit down full force on one of those peppercorns. 00:01:59.549 --> 00:02:01.969 And it hit me right in the middle of one of those 00:02:01.969 --> 00:02:06.489 rear teeth. And I could feel my tooth splitting. 00:02:07.230 --> 00:02:11.210 I could feel it spread when I bit down. Dude, 00:02:11.689 --> 00:02:14.650 horrible pain. And fucking tears grew up in my 00:02:14.650 --> 00:02:18.789 eyes. Whole mouth was hurting. Then that went 00:02:18.789 --> 00:02:21.270 away. But then my teeth all got sensitive again 00:02:21.270 --> 00:02:25.129 all of a sudden. So, yeah. Well, Gavin, it makes 00:02:25.129 --> 00:02:27.490 you feel better. You told me you haven't been 00:02:27.490 --> 00:02:29.569 to the dentist since your middle school. And 00:02:29.569 --> 00:02:31.530 I have this thing where people with bad teeth 00:02:31.530 --> 00:02:35.090 drive me nuts because it's disgusting. And your 00:02:35.090 --> 00:02:37.930 teeth aren't bad enough that it bothers me. So 00:02:37.930 --> 00:02:40.469 good job taking care of your teeth and not even 00:02:40.469 --> 00:02:42.629 though you didn't. I mean, I don't go to the 00:02:42.629 --> 00:02:46.340 dentist because. I have like a really bad aversion 00:02:46.340 --> 00:02:48.259 to mental touching teeth. And when they scrape 00:02:48.259 --> 00:02:52.039 my teeth, I like have a panic attack, but I still 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.319 brush my teeth like like it's not that I don't 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:59.680 try to take care of them, but like I just I can't 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:03.479 do it like I can't when people clink their forks 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:06.099 on their teeth. If it's something that you do 00:03:06.099 --> 00:03:08.460 often, I'll stop hanging out with you. That's 00:03:08.460 --> 00:03:12.060 how much I hate it. I I used to work with this 00:03:12.060 --> 00:03:14.379 girl. She was really pretty, too, like dropped 00:03:14.379 --> 00:03:17.439 a gorgeous and then she would smile and every 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:19.259 single one of her teeth had some kind of pit 00:03:19.259 --> 00:03:21.599 in them and it was the biggest like turn off 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:25.599 I was like fuck dude yeah so I mean and you know 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:30.900 I'm 31 now and I haven't really had any huge 00:03:30.900 --> 00:03:35.199 issues with my teeth like I had a few years ago 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.020 like my wisdom teeth removing or something and 00:03:38.020 --> 00:03:41.250 so I had some pain there but like I haven't really 00:03:41.250 --> 00:03:44.310 had any real issues with my teeth until just 00:03:44.310 --> 00:03:46.289 a couple weeks ago to where they were just hurting. 00:03:48.590 --> 00:03:51.729 So I mean, I feel like I take care of my teeth. 00:03:51.889 --> 00:03:54.069 I think they're all still there. I don't have 00:03:54.069 --> 00:03:57.009 any broken or chipped teeth or anything, except 00:03:57.009 --> 00:03:59.469 for the ones way in the back, the wisdom teeth. 00:03:59.509 --> 00:04:03.939 Those have broken them off a little bit. But 00:04:03.939 --> 00:04:06.280 yeah, so I'm going to the dentist tomorrow. Sienna's 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:07.919 going to the dentist tomorrow. Alex is going 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:09.580 to the dentist tomorrow. We're just all going 00:04:09.580 --> 00:04:13.939 to different dentists. And hopefully, they don't 00:04:13.939 --> 00:04:16.220 touch my teeth with metal, because I'm going 00:04:16.220 --> 00:04:19.399 to tell them to just put me under. I don't want 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:24.600 to be awake for it. And so yeah, that's the fun. 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.420 In the wrap, we talked about our fun camping 00:04:29.420 --> 00:04:34.560 weekend. What we all learned from that any key 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:37.120 takeaways from you guys from camping weekend 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.980 That you're gonna try to make improvements on 00:04:39.980 --> 00:04:43.259 in the future. We definitely need a better community 00:04:43.259 --> 00:04:49.110 space Okay We're looking at a couple different 00:04:49.110 --> 00:04:51.569 ice shanties because that gives us an insulated 00:04:51.569 --> 00:04:54.170 pop -up very similar to what we already have 00:04:54.170 --> 00:04:57.170 The one that I think we're gonna end up going 00:04:57.170 --> 00:05:01.610 with it's like 400 bucks It's 13 by 8 by 13 by 00:05:01.610 --> 00:05:04.529 8. So about two footage bigger than what we've 00:05:04.529 --> 00:05:09.829 already got. Mm -hmm. Well two foot squared Because 00:05:09.829 --> 00:05:13.230 what we have is a 12 by 12, you know, but I think 00:05:13.230 --> 00:05:16.250 that will drastically improve our winter camping 00:05:16.250 --> 00:05:20.829 and I Winter overlanding would be cool But I 00:05:20.829 --> 00:05:23.410 think that my winter camping is gonna reserve 00:05:23.410 --> 00:05:25.810 to base camp because it's just so much less set 00:05:25.810 --> 00:05:31.149 up. Yeah, I think until I get my Self figured 00:05:31.149 --> 00:05:33.829 out a little bit better I'm gonna be reserved 00:05:33.829 --> 00:05:36.850 to winter base camps and not a ton of them until 00:05:36.850 --> 00:05:40.829 I get it figured out too like So, I mean my key 00:05:40.829 --> 00:05:43.050 takeaway is I need a different tent straight 00:05:43.050 --> 00:05:46.060 up. I mean The tent was just not good for it. 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.120 We're already outgrowing our two person tent 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:51.019 because of the kid now. We have a six person 00:05:51.019 --> 00:05:54.000 tent. Takes a while to set up. It's getting old, 00:05:54.180 --> 00:05:58.519 starting to get rips in it. Can't withstand super 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:03.920 high wind speeds. You know, anything over 30 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.699 and that thing starts to kind of fold. Like I 00:06:07.699 --> 00:06:10.600 said, it takes two people to put together and 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:15.029 it's a base camp pretty much only so. My main 00:06:15.029 --> 00:06:18.490 considerations for my next tent are gonna be 00:06:18.490 --> 00:06:21.990 that it needs to be You know four to six person 00:06:21.990 --> 00:06:27.750 tent at the most a six person It has to be pretty 00:06:27.750 --> 00:06:32.370 easy simple setup that someone can do By themselves 00:06:32.370 --> 00:06:36.449 like me Because you know we have the kid and 00:06:36.449 --> 00:06:39.389 you can't do You can't watch the kid and set 00:06:39.389 --> 00:06:41.949 up both people set up a tent. That's just not 00:06:41.949 --> 00:06:47.230 how toddlers work so So yeah. So I think I have 00:06:47.230 --> 00:06:49.430 a tent in mind. I've been looking at the Acacia 00:06:49.430 --> 00:06:54.009 and as I was kind of talking to Alex this morning, 00:06:54.129 --> 00:06:56.769 I might be, I might stay away from it because 00:06:56.769 --> 00:06:59.069 by the time you order the rain fly and the full 00:06:59.069 --> 00:07:00.990 rain fly for the Acacia, you're looking at closer 00:07:00.990 --> 00:07:05.709 to 700 some dollars, getting close to 800 and 00:07:05.709 --> 00:07:09.129 they haven't done anything on any of their socials. 00:07:09.129 --> 00:07:11.050 Like they've had no correspondence. I've emailed 00:07:11.050 --> 00:07:14.420 them a few times with questions. nothing back 00:07:14.420 --> 00:07:17.959 not even like a reply email back for it like 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.740 did that will get back to you so That's kind 00:07:21.740 --> 00:07:27.000 of unsettling plus no media And I guess to kind 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:28.819 of go back to another conversation me and Alex 00:07:28.819 --> 00:07:32.180 had earlier today what's concerning about that 00:07:32.180 --> 00:07:36.279 is I was listening to Tyler in our more flight 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:40.420 episode and I'll tell everybody this too. I feel 00:07:40.420 --> 00:07:44.240 like a dummy but I've only listened to a few 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.519 of the snail trail episodes because I don't really 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:48.740 listen to a lot of them anymore because I don't 00:07:48.740 --> 00:07:54.500 work So he didn't know Tyler from snail trails 00:07:54.500 --> 00:07:59.560 was Tyler from more flight so So yeah, I'm sorry 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:03.120 Tyler. Sorry snail trail guys. I I like I have 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.319 listened to episodes but like Tyler does a good 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.019 job in the snail trail episodes of not like being 00:08:09.019 --> 00:08:14.379 overly over the - what how would you say that 00:08:14.379 --> 00:08:18.480 like pushy. Over the talkative about the fact 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.459 that he is you know that he owns like more flight 00:08:21.459 --> 00:08:24.439 and that he does all that - I mean they do talk 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:27.439 about it a lot yes like it's not like that like 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:30.839 in a - and it's not not by my fucking product 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:34.019 or yeah it's long. He's like oh I'm going to 00:08:34.019 --> 00:08:37.980 sponsor this - this event or you know we're fully 00:08:37.980 --> 00:08:41.659 sponsored this so I know all about it or. I mean, 00:08:41.899 --> 00:08:45.440 yeah, I listen these products like he's mentioned 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.139 like future products in some degree coming up. 00:08:48.460 --> 00:08:50.120 But other than that, he doesn't really push it 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.700 too much. Yeah. Like I've listened like I had 00:08:53.700 --> 00:08:55.799 enough time to listen to like two more snail 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:58.259 mail ones. I think that's what they call them, 00:08:58.259 --> 00:09:00.980 right? Snail mail. Yeah. Any of them I was in. 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.220 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Actually 00:09:03.220 --> 00:09:05.840 I thought for a second because they said Alex 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.320 and said oh and then they go to other Alex. Yeah 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.500 they go other Alex and I'm like oh. But yeah 00:09:13.500 --> 00:09:15.039 so they they were talking about that and then 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:16.799 they started getting into talking about businesses 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.480 but anyway back to circle back to what I was 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.139 originally saying is that. He mentioned that 00:09:22.139 --> 00:09:24.940 there are some companies that are really in it 00:09:24.940 --> 00:09:27.730 for the long run they're in it to. make a startup, 00:09:27.769 --> 00:09:31.629 make a product, and then stick in it for a couple 00:09:31.629 --> 00:09:33.470 of years, make some good money off of it, and 00:09:33.470 --> 00:09:38.269 move on. Or they just don't think of the long 00:09:38.269 --> 00:09:41.009 term, and they can't sustain it or whatever. 00:09:41.409 --> 00:09:43.570 And I think Acacia is one of those brands. I'm 00:09:43.570 --> 00:09:45.950 not confident with their customer service, that 00:09:45.950 --> 00:09:49.690 they'll have product support in the future. And 00:09:49.690 --> 00:09:51.549 I don't want to invest that kind of money into 00:09:51.549 --> 00:09:54.850 something that doesn't have a future. And unless 00:09:54.850 --> 00:09:57.179 they can prove me wrong in the next you know, 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:02.519 month or two, I probably won't invest into something 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:06.679 like that. When you invest into a tent and you 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:09.480 put this kind of money into a tent, you expect 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.639 to have some kind of product support and customer 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:16.379 service. And while I have been worried with Gazelle's 00:10:16.379 --> 00:10:19.399 quality control issues, I don't think it's enough 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:23.559 to warrant not getting them. And the issues I 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.919 have had with them. They just released the Gazelle 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:32.500 T5 back country. And that has been everything 00:10:32.500 --> 00:10:36.799 that I have wanted in a quick setup tent. It's 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:38.919 a hub style tent like their last one. They have 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:43.860 a full rectangular door. They have, you know, 00:10:44.019 --> 00:10:49.100 Velcro windows that have a clear section. So 00:10:49.100 --> 00:10:51.679 they like they're supposed it's a four season 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:55.320 tent. It's a five -person tent, so it's not quite 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.259 like the 6 '8". It's kind of like in the middle. 00:10:59.820 --> 00:11:02.480 Diesel heater pour seems really, really nice, 00:11:02.659 --> 00:11:07.879 rugged. it really makes me laugh that you say 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:12.559 uh five like four five is a preferred size because 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.120 if I'm not if it's not a two person I want a 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.759 six or an eight yeah so like I I like it that 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:21.580 is is a five person tent because four to six 00:11:21.580 --> 00:11:25.919 is like six is my max four to five I'm assuming 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:29.120 five is my sweet spot right so gives me a little 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:31.299 extra space to put like the battery for the diesel 00:11:31.299 --> 00:11:35.179 heater our gear for the kid to walk around and 00:11:35.179 --> 00:11:38.659 run around in so while not being frigid cold 00:11:38.659 --> 00:11:43.399 in the winter or cold months. So it has embodied 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:48.679 everything that I've wanted from a tent other 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.000 than size and weight. It's still the typical 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.580 gazelle tent style. So it's got that long bag. 00:11:56.179 --> 00:11:58.019 The only other thing that I would love to see 00:11:58.019 --> 00:12:03.149 from them is like a full rain fly. But with that 00:12:03.149 --> 00:12:06.169 being said, if their tents are that good and 00:12:06.169 --> 00:12:08.090 that waterproof, and then that's not a concern. 00:12:08.710 --> 00:12:10.629 So and I've heard they're pretty waterproof. 00:12:10.950 --> 00:12:13.549 Right. But I've heard they're pretty waterproof. 00:12:13.870 --> 00:12:17.669 So I've heard people have gone through plenty 00:12:17.669 --> 00:12:20.190 of rainstorms in them and they can sustain pretty 00:12:20.190 --> 00:12:23.909 high winds and have no issues. I know Scott was 00:12:23.909 --> 00:12:25.730 with us on that first Labor Day when we were 00:12:25.730 --> 00:12:28.029 getting 40 to 60 mile an hour winds and he was 00:12:28.029 --> 00:12:30.840 not having any issues in his gazelle. So. That 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:34.379 is pretty cool. I have another. Another thing 00:12:34.379 --> 00:12:39.480 I want to upgrade is. Maybe not an upgrade, I 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.820 don't know. The the poo situation wasn't the 00:12:42.820 --> 00:12:46.100 best this weekend. But I didn't want to set up 00:12:46.100 --> 00:12:50.700 my poo castle, so maybe like a half poo castle 00:12:50.700 --> 00:12:54.679 that my head sticks out of would be OK. I think 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:56.799 that's that's another reason why I want a tent 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.470 that I could stand up in. So like the two person 00:13:00.470 --> 00:13:04.610 dagger great solo or two person tent for the 00:13:04.610 --> 00:13:07.610 our over landing needs so that's not like that's 00:13:07.610 --> 00:13:09.769 gonna get phased out it's definitely has a purpose 00:13:09.769 --> 00:13:12.730 but being able to have that five six person tent 00:13:12.730 --> 00:13:14.950 we can throw a toilet in there with the diesel 00:13:14.950 --> 00:13:18.129 heater on no and deal with the stank or whatever 00:13:18.129 --> 00:13:20.549 for you know no different than having a bathroom 00:13:20.549 --> 00:13:26.879 in your house right so. Yeah, no, it's no different. 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:29.759 Yeah, I mean there's snow outside, you know bag 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:33.620 it there's some spray in there maybe vent your 00:13:33.620 --> 00:13:37.600 vent here your Your tent for a minute or two. 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.100 You'll be fine. So I would know what we were 00:13:41.100 --> 00:13:45.559 doing hmm We were sitting we set up the we dug 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.580 a spot for the toilet set the toilet there And 00:13:48.580 --> 00:13:50.799 then we took my army tarp and just wrapped it 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.659 around our waist before we sat down. He said, 00:13:53.740 --> 00:13:56.080 whoever needs to use the bathroom first gets 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.039 to set up the tent. Well, it'll be him. He didn't 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:00.360 want to set up the tent at all. I didn't have 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:04.799 time. I had to go. I even took an Imodium. An 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:07.820 Imodium worked great the first day when we were 00:14:07.820 --> 00:14:10.100 stuck in everything. The second day after the 00:14:10.100 --> 00:14:12.240 red beans and rice and sausage went through the 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:17.000 system. Yep. And I was getting like IBS issues. 00:14:17.860 --> 00:14:22.000 So I. I. Walking talkers went through meal. Saturday 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:25.620 night This camping trip was interesting because 00:14:25.620 --> 00:14:28.279 usually I do have like really bad IBS issues. 00:14:28.940 --> 00:14:31.960 I Didn't this time the walking tacos, you know 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.159 went through me, but other than that even my 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:36.360 poops are even solid I don't get solid poops. 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:40.659 Yeah, I don't either and I don't eat like a super 00:14:40.659 --> 00:14:43.679 unhealthy diet either Like I don't use a lot 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.840 of fats. It's usually solid like fully cooked 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:51.399 meals like So even when we're camping, it's not 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.480 really that bad a food. And I technically, I 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:56.759 think I eat better camping, really, because I 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:01.879 try to have better food while we camp. So the 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.879 poop situation, that would be great in a bigger 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:08.679 tent. Otherwise, we'd have to run a diesel heater 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:12.299 tube to one of the side awning tent on the truck 00:15:12.299 --> 00:15:17.340 would have been great this weekend had I. had 00:15:17.340 --> 00:15:21.340 I not broken it during poker runs. So because 00:15:21.340 --> 00:15:23.659 I did rip that off and it's still strapped there. 00:15:23.659 --> 00:15:25.419 It's been too cold for me to want to fuck with 00:15:25.419 --> 00:15:28.539 it. It's like it hasn't moved yet. So I'm like, 00:15:28.580 --> 00:15:33.620 whatever. I haven't taking my tent off the roof. 00:15:33.659 --> 00:15:35.600 I haven't done anything. It's all still in the 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.500 truck. Oh, you know what I would like to address, 00:15:38.620 --> 00:15:41.220 too. You know that worrying sound I was talking 00:15:41.220 --> 00:15:47.169 about. After driving around for a while. It seems 00:15:47.169 --> 00:15:50.990 to quiet down. I don't know why. I don't know 00:15:50.990 --> 00:15:54.090 if it's because the oil warmed up. I don't. I 00:15:54.090 --> 00:15:56.830 haven't driven the truck long enough since I 00:15:56.830 --> 00:16:01.970 changed it. I don't think it's a problem. I think 00:16:01.970 --> 00:16:05.710 you're good. Let's hope. But yeah, no, I didn't 00:16:05.710 --> 00:16:10.799 have any issues this weekend. um I I did accidentally 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:13.600 like I was I was rocking it from drive to reverse 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:17.000 a few times and I might have slammed it into 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:20.960 drive before I got slow enough to in reverse 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.419 so it kind of like lurched me so that kind of 00:16:23.419 --> 00:16:29.720 fucked me up a little but um you know um I think 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.799 that's really my only improvement I think with 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:38.159 a better tent to insulate for that Heat that 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:39.740 I was actually getting from the diesel heater. 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:43.480 I think we'd be in better situation in the future 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:48.139 There is a chance that I upgrade bags, but I 00:16:48.139 --> 00:16:50.460 think honestly I'm gonna keep the bags and just 00:16:50.460 --> 00:16:55.059 get some quilts and stuff because some wool some 00:16:55.059 --> 00:17:00.779 down I want to get some good down quilts Some 00:17:00.779 --> 00:17:05.160 really really good pack down down quilts that 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:09.019 we could throw over us That one I got for Christmas 00:17:09.019 --> 00:17:13.900 is fucking solid is it down is probably yeah, 00:17:13.900 --> 00:17:17.839 it's a Packable like hiking down quill. Yeah 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:24.000 Yeah, I think it's solid that is the way I know 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:25.940 coming into this year. I got to get the kid a 00:17:25.940 --> 00:17:27.859 sleeping bag or something We have an old Coleman 00:17:27.859 --> 00:17:32.099 bag that I might just let him use And then the 00:17:32.099 --> 00:17:35.529 the army green uh wool blankets you can get those 00:17:35.529 --> 00:17:37.730 for like 20 bucks yeah i think i'm gonna get 00:17:37.730 --> 00:17:41.329 a couple of those uh the secret safe of the day 00:17:41.329 --> 00:17:43.470 which i don't think i match uh mentioned in the 00:17:43.470 --> 00:17:46.490 wrap and i don't know if mark heard but um you 00:17:46.490 --> 00:17:49.549 know those uh one -sided blankets they're like 00:17:49.549 --> 00:17:52.549 they're like blanket on one side the other side's 00:17:52.549 --> 00:17:54.690 like plastic so you can lay it in the grass or 00:17:54.690 --> 00:17:58.730 on the ground it like folds up like a truck like 00:17:58.730 --> 00:18:01.329 the truck seat cover thing you can get from uh 00:18:01.329 --> 00:18:03.319 auto zone Yeah, you know, the one that rolls 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.319 up in like a rectangle. I think you have one, 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.339 too. I got mine. I think I have the same one. 00:18:08.579 --> 00:18:10.519 Yeah, I got mine from tractor supply. It was 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:14.119 given to me. But so I had that to put out in 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:15.839 front of my tent so I could get in and out of 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.039 it because I have to crawl in the snow to get 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:21.339 out of my two person dagger, which that sucked, 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:24.400 too, by the way. But during the middle of the 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:26.940 night with the wind coming in, I had these toggles 00:18:26.940 --> 00:18:29.759 on the side of my screen. I open up my zipper, 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:33.839 cut holes in that. one sided blanket and hung 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.400 them through the toggles and it completely blocked 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.700 the right side of my tent off. Yeah. So it wasn't, 00:18:40.700 --> 00:18:43.960 you know, mesh only there. And that helps the 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:46.259 heat retain in. And then I pulled in my rain 00:18:46.259 --> 00:18:49.960 fly on the left side, unhooked it, pulled the 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:53.640 whole rain fly under the tent and smushed it 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.140 into the snow to kind of anchor it down to keep 00:18:57.140 --> 00:18:59.180 the heat in over there, too. So the wind wasn't 00:18:59.180 --> 00:19:01.799 pushing in and like getting rid of all my heat 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:06.420 and that helped. So yeah, I mean that that little 00:19:06.420 --> 00:19:09.880 blanket kind of saved the day. I did have a blanket 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:15.000 underneath my pad and that was good. It was really 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:16.599 good for moving around in the tent because it 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:19.779 didn't like I wasn't sitting right on the snow 00:19:19.779 --> 00:19:23.359 or on the tarp of the bottom of the tent. So. 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:25.440 Other than that, though, yeah, I think that's 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:29.900 just my main thing is a tent and. because the 00:19:29.900 --> 00:19:32.359 worst thing is that gazelles that new backcountry 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:37.019 tents a thousand fucking dollars it's it's expensive 00:19:37.019 --> 00:19:40.420 and i'm sure they're good for it like i said 00:19:40.420 --> 00:19:44.160 their quality is decent and and that does that's 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.640 like a winter tent and a summer tent so it's 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:51.339 two tents for one kind of thing is kind of how 00:19:51.339 --> 00:19:54.460 i'm trying to justify it in my mind you get both 00:19:54.730 --> 00:19:56.910 I'd love to get it and then test it out with 00:19:56.910 --> 00:19:58.549 you guys too and be like, Hey, what do you guys 00:19:58.549 --> 00:20:03.230 think? We do like a too bad. Too bad. You need 00:20:03.230 --> 00:20:06.569 a bigger tent because there's a light fighter 00:20:06.569 --> 00:20:09.849 to with with kit for like 350 on marketplace 00:20:09.849 --> 00:20:13.430 right now. But that's like just slightly bigger 00:20:13.430 --> 00:20:16.529 than your dagger. Yeah, I literally it's literally 00:20:16.529 --> 00:20:19.089 the size of my swag. They're like within a couple 00:20:19.089 --> 00:20:20.890 inches of each other. Yeah. I mean, if I was 00:20:20.890 --> 00:20:24.890 solo, I'd just probably just use a swag or Well, 00:20:24.930 --> 00:20:27.130 I mean, honestly, if I was solo, I'd just truck 00:20:27.130 --> 00:20:31.829 camp. So truck camping would be the the best 00:20:31.829 --> 00:20:35.069 way to do that. Throw your diesel heater in through 00:20:35.069 --> 00:20:38.009 the fucking window. Oh, my God. You'd be so warm 00:20:38.009 --> 00:20:40.509 all night. Dude, your truck don't even do that. 00:20:41.410 --> 00:20:43.769 Build your diesel heater into the truck so you 00:20:43.769 --> 00:20:46.250 don't even have to. Well, I mean, you just turn 00:20:46.250 --> 00:20:48.670 it on. Yeah. I mean, if I had like Mark's truck 00:20:48.670 --> 00:20:51.049 and I had like a bed and everything. Hell, yeah. 00:20:51.329 --> 00:20:55.609 Do I like one of those? Five foot bed. Oh, I 00:20:55.609 --> 00:20:58.089 was going to say, you can't lay down in your 00:20:58.089 --> 00:21:00.289 truck if you fold everything flat either, can 00:21:00.289 --> 00:21:02.410 you? No, not at all. It's not like a full cab. 00:21:03.690 --> 00:21:05.630 Mine's a full cab, but no, you can't even do 00:21:05.630 --> 00:21:09.329 that. There was a guy that had a Tacoma where 00:21:09.329 --> 00:21:12.470 he got in an accident with it. He deleted his 00:21:12.470 --> 00:21:14.670 passenger seat and made an old platform for him 00:21:14.670 --> 00:21:18.380 to sleep in. He was like camping out of it. I'm 00:21:18.380 --> 00:21:20.559 not sure. Short guys got it easy if they can 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.380 go fucking passenger to drivers and just sleep 00:21:23.380 --> 00:21:26.500 in the back seat. Yeah, you ever see those, like, 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:31.099 the car beds? Yes. Yeah, they have, like, the 00:21:31.099 --> 00:21:33.240 inflatable beds that you put on the seat. Oh, 00:21:33.299 --> 00:21:34.579 yeah, yeah, yeah. And then inflate it, and you 00:21:34.579 --> 00:21:36.900 could sleep in the back seat. those people got 00:21:36.900 --> 00:21:39.599 it easy man being that short what the fuck that 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:42.220 being said though the passenger seat at least 00:21:42.220 --> 00:21:45.240 not so much the drivers but once it's reclined 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:47.819 and so far back it actually quite comfy to sleep 00:21:47.819 --> 00:21:53.000 yeah fuck I've done that in the Toyota too I'd 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:55.599 say Toyota's their seats reclined pretty far 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:58.900 back I think just about as far as you can let 00:21:58.900 --> 00:22:00.640 it go without touching the other seat behind 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.599 you so that is nice I've spent a night or two 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:09.259 in my in my seat, so. But yeah, I don't know. 00:22:11.819 --> 00:22:14.900 Mark, you think you're going to do any tent changes 00:22:14.900 --> 00:22:17.680 this next season? I'm happy with the light fighter. 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:23.400 It's done everything I got. It's capable for 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.279 all seasons right now. I just have to take the 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:28.960 one layer off when it comes to summertime, because 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:38.980 I'm going to not want the extra layer. Don't 00:22:38.980 --> 00:22:41.799 If anything I like to get a whoopie blanket just 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:45.420 for because I don't sleep with my sleeping bag 00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:49.200 fully zip because I It gets up to a certain point 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.640 that I just don't like how the comfort level 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:54.339 with being zipped Yeah, just like you don't like 00:22:54.339 --> 00:22:56.640 being confined like you want to spread. Yeah 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.319 Yeah. Yeah, so I usually leave it was up to open 00:23:01.549 --> 00:23:04.509 That was kind of the - It hasn't bothered me 00:23:04.509 --> 00:23:08.230 until stuff for the other weekend when we first 00:23:08.230 --> 00:23:13.170 did our test camp for wintering. Yeah. It's kind 00:23:13.170 --> 00:23:15.069 of the downside to sleeping bags is if you like 00:23:15.069 --> 00:23:17.910 to sprawl, they don't really allow for that. 00:23:18.670 --> 00:23:23.309 Especially the mullet bags. Yeah. So that was 00:23:23.309 --> 00:23:26.309 one of the considerations I got. I got a wide, 00:23:26.950 --> 00:23:30.950 rectangular -shaped sleeping bag. And it was 00:23:30.950 --> 00:23:32.910 meant for some people with wider shoulders, a 00:23:32.910 --> 00:23:35.890 little bit bigger guys. And it's nice because 00:23:35.890 --> 00:23:38.470 I can kind of sprawl a little bit in it, but 00:23:38.470 --> 00:23:42.829 I can move around. It still has a hood that if 00:23:42.829 --> 00:23:45.109 you wanted to kind of mummy yourself, you could. 00:23:46.009 --> 00:23:48.569 But the only downside is that when you want the 00:23:48.569 --> 00:23:51.650 toe box to be really small to help keep that 00:23:51.650 --> 00:23:54.410 heat in, you kind of have to like fold it into 00:23:54.410 --> 00:23:57.759 a mummy style. But which is kind of what I did 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:01.539 this weekend or this last weekend. So but Honestly, 00:24:01.579 --> 00:24:03.779 the bags done great for me. It's a zero degree 00:24:03.779 --> 00:24:07.420 and I I think that in zero degrees I would have 00:24:07.420 --> 00:24:11.400 survived but I would obviously that's not a comfort 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:17.380 rating. So Yeah, it was like negative two, I 00:24:17.380 --> 00:24:24.160 mean it was below yeah Yeah We're in the negative. 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.900 We got down to like negative 17. Yeah, I don't 00:24:26.900 --> 00:24:29.599 know where I don't know where I was exactly. 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:34.119 I know in the tent I was at like 45 and then 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.759 I was at 60 at the top because I had my my as 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:42.539 I said in the wrap, my monoxide meter has a thermometer 00:24:42.539 --> 00:24:46.640 on it and it said I was running around 5560 at 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.359 the top of the tent. So I was probably at a good 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:55.460 like 45 -ish, 50 in the bottom part. Much cooler 00:24:55.460 --> 00:24:57.960 down. You could feel the difference. I definitely 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:01.819 feel the difference from moving my hand from 00:25:01.819 --> 00:25:04.839 an inch or two from the bottom of the tent from, 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:08.279 you know, a foot or so up to the top of the tent. 00:25:08.700 --> 00:25:16.789 Easy difference. Yeah. I... Think I've got my 00:25:16.789 --> 00:25:21.130 my winter sleeping setup is pretty solid I used 00:25:21.130 --> 00:25:23.230 to have issues with the swags I had to roll out 00:25:23.230 --> 00:25:25.349 into the snow But then I realized I was being 00:25:25.349 --> 00:25:27.230 dumb and I can just open the roof and go out 00:25:27.230 --> 00:25:32.329 the roof That made the swag way more usable and 00:25:32.329 --> 00:25:35.750 then Because I can pretty much completely close 00:25:35.750 --> 00:25:39.690 the swag up uh even like when we camped last 00:25:39.690 --> 00:25:42.730 weekend in the yard uh that night that mark bitched 00:25:42.730 --> 00:25:45.150 out when it was like negative 27 or whatever 00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:50.029 um by the way valid valid bitch out by the way 00:25:50.029 --> 00:25:55.150 that's valid yeah i i woke up the that morning 00:25:55.150 --> 00:25:57.950 when it was still like negative 25 and i was 00:25:57.950 --> 00:26:00.750 sweating my ass off so i took the you know took 00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:03.809 the quill off my head and went oh yeah fuck that 00:26:03.809 --> 00:26:09.460 and just put it back because it was so cold But 00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:13.279 I mean when it comes to like actual Surviving 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:15.619 and being comfortable and cold army sleeping 00:26:15.619 --> 00:26:19.279 bag with a couple army Well, usually I have a 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:23.339 army wool blanket over me and then my down quilt 00:26:23.339 --> 00:26:27.140 I'm not I'm not cold. That is a very warm sleeping 00:26:27.140 --> 00:26:32.880 setup and then you know, the army or the Swag's 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.490 built -in mattress is really freaking solid uh 00:26:36.490 --> 00:26:38.809 mark did you see that when we took the swag up 00:26:38.809 --> 00:26:41.089 there's only a small amount of snow melted under 00:26:41.089 --> 00:26:47.289 it i was really impressed with the lack of like 00:26:47.289 --> 00:26:49.609 thermal transfer that happened there i think 00:26:49.609 --> 00:26:52.769 the only area that got any form of melt i know 00:26:52.769 --> 00:26:55.150 we put salt on it but even before that it was 00:26:55.150 --> 00:27:00.230 the canopy yeah where we were running the propane 00:27:00.230 --> 00:27:04.619 heater Yeah, I was pretty happy with my tent 00:27:04.619 --> 00:27:12.500 having no snow on it. Oh, yeah Yeah, no, I honestly 00:27:12.500 --> 00:27:16.460 I think if my core temp was higher like if I 00:27:16.460 --> 00:27:19.359 was just at a normal core temp like right now 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.220 I probably would have been able to sleep through 00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:24.019 most of the night with no issue, but I was fighting 00:27:24.019 --> 00:27:28.359 a losing battle most of that night and Yeah, 00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:31.599 the tell you what though just like last time 00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:34.859 camp meals They just, they hit different when 00:27:34.859 --> 00:27:36.599 you're cold and you've been fucking around all 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:40.039 day. Like that red beans and rice that I made 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.339 was orgasmic. It was better than sex when I was 00:27:44.339 --> 00:27:49.059 eating it. Like so good. So good. I was telling 00:27:49.059 --> 00:27:51.119 Mark in the rap, I don't know if you were on 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:55.440 yet, but I was, I was like, I was moaning while 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.059 I was eating it at the fire. Like my feet, my 00:27:58.059 --> 00:28:00.819 boots were in the fire. because I couldn't feel 00:28:00.819 --> 00:28:05.619 my toes and I was just going, oh, oh, every bite 00:28:05.619 --> 00:28:09.980 was just, oh, fuck. And Mitch is just looking 00:28:09.980 --> 00:28:13.839 at Friday night. Friday night when we made mashed 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:17.720 potatoes, corn and steak, I like we don't have 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:20.099 a way to cover our pan when we're cooking steak. 00:28:20.539 --> 00:28:22.880 And it makes it kind of hard to cook the steak 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:27.160 all the way through. Right. And I was in the 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.500 cold. So it's like neck negative temps above 00:28:29.500 --> 00:28:32.059 it. hot pan underneath it. It just it didn't 00:28:32.059 --> 00:28:35.500 cook even. Yeah. And I cut into that first piece 00:28:35.500 --> 00:28:37.900 and it was like completely raw in the middle 00:28:37.900 --> 00:28:40.059 and it was still the best thing I'd ever. Oh, 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.660 yeah. Dude, the piece I picked was cooked just 00:28:43.660 --> 00:28:46.000 right. It was perfect. So remember how we were 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:49.740 having issues with my stove on New Year's? I 00:28:49.740 --> 00:28:51.400 think it was because I had some kind of water 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.839 in the system from the ice and stuff being in 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.500 because when I got you because Mitch had the 00:28:56.500 --> 00:28:59.359 same set up. And I asked him if he had any issues. 00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:01.019 He's like, no, I've never had issues with it. 00:29:01.019 --> 00:29:03.019 I'm like, OK, maybe you just keep your cap on 00:29:03.019 --> 00:29:06.480 because you're not an idiot like I am. And I 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.279 went to do the same thing, hooked my stove up, 00:29:09.660 --> 00:29:13.079 no issues. So I don't know. I was really happy 00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.880 because it got really hot, really fast. And I 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:20.000 was cooking that rice. It was boiling. If you 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:23.779 think about it, people put their propane in a 00:29:23.779 --> 00:29:26.339 jug of ice to get it to cook hotter. I mean. 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.599 our propane tanks sit outside all winter. So 00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.740 like there's it can't be too bad, like obviously. 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.500 But I was just like it was just weird that one 00:29:35.500 --> 00:29:37.259 day. Yeah, it was just being weird. And I think 00:29:37.259 --> 00:29:40.539 it was because and for anyone who might not know, 00:29:40.539 --> 00:29:43.660 which probably is most of you for New Year's, 00:29:43.660 --> 00:29:46.099 I had forgotten to put the cap on my propane 00:29:46.099 --> 00:29:48.880 tank and it sits on my spare wheel. So the whole 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.059 inside of my propane tank nozzle was just iced 00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:56.599 over. So we had to get like a gun. and warm that 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:58.680 up before I even hit it. So I think I had some 00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:01.359 water in there. And when I open it up, I think 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.619 it was just affecting the propane mix. So, you 00:30:04.619 --> 00:30:09.200 know, but now it was great. Really, really happy 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.880 with the cooking set up this weekend. Could you 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.720 imagine if there'd been a propane leak that time 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.240 we put the heat gun to it? I would have been 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.599 interesting. Yeah, that might not have been the 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.329 smartest thing we've ever done. I mean, I can't 00:30:24.329 --> 00:30:26.269 lie. I was thinking about putting a torch to 00:30:26.269 --> 00:30:29.930 it, but I thought against it. I feel like there 00:30:29.930 --> 00:30:34.430 was a legal pros over, though. Yeah. You know, 00:30:34.569 --> 00:30:38.349 I just for any listeners like I think about these 00:30:38.349 --> 00:30:40.609 things, it doesn't mean that I do them. I have 00:30:40.609 --> 00:30:44.430 a lot of intrusive thoughts, a lot. I thought 00:30:44.430 --> 00:30:46.930 about leaving my truck the other day, just sitting 00:30:46.930 --> 00:30:48.990 out in the middle of the snow and just walking 00:30:48.990 --> 00:30:51.509 away and never coming back. Just saying fuck 00:30:51.509 --> 00:30:53.190 over landing, fuck camping. Like I was getting 00:30:53.190 --> 00:30:56.049 frustrated. Not mean that doesn't mean I'll do 00:30:56.049 --> 00:30:58.250 it. I thought about sleeping there that night, 00:30:58.269 --> 00:31:03.369 too. Didn't mean I'd do it. I I definitely shot 00:31:03.369 --> 00:31:05.589 a leaking propane tank the other day, like one 00:31:05.589 --> 00:31:07.990 of the little one pounders, because it wouldn't 00:31:07.990 --> 00:31:09.769 stop leaking. And I'm like, how do I dispose 00:31:09.769 --> 00:31:11.390 of it? So I just threw it out in the yard and 00:31:11.390 --> 00:31:14.430 shot it. It was already leaking. No, they're 00:31:14.430 --> 00:31:17.029 pretty good. I wish it had. By the way, what 00:31:17.029 --> 00:31:20.559 was up with your old buddy eater priority? Alex, 00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:25.700 why was it broke? Oh. Yeah, I don't know. The 00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:27.619 igniter wouldn't work. And I'm like, I'll just 00:31:27.619 --> 00:31:30.440 take it apart and fix the igniter. No, no, it 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:32.500 was really it was really broke. Yeah. Yeah. It's 00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:34.400 funny because Mark told me about that on the 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.420 wrap and I'm like, I had two of them that he 00:31:36.420 --> 00:31:39.339 could have took. I had a propane tank mounted 00:31:39.339 --> 00:31:43.579 heater with the double cans. And I have the same 00:31:43.579 --> 00:31:46.119 buddy heater we took for cold camp last year, 00:31:46.220 --> 00:31:49.710 cold camp, botches camp. year or two ago, wherever 00:31:49.710 --> 00:31:52.650 we did that last. That propane heater I bought 00:31:52.650 --> 00:31:56.069 though is it's the MVP of the trip. Oh yeah. 00:31:56.369 --> 00:31:59.430 That was a really nice one. Definitely works 00:31:59.430 --> 00:32:02.410 way better if actual bigger propane tank than 00:32:02.410 --> 00:32:05.490 the little ones. Yeah, probably the the more 00:32:05.490 --> 00:32:09.880 pressure that you had in it. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's 00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.700 that thing's really fucking solid. It's a Ozark 00:32:12.700 --> 00:32:15.559 trail 360 and it must be new because there's 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.220 like no reviews of it anywhere on yeah, you know 00:32:19.220 --> 00:32:22.700 and I like my buddy heater it actually kept my 00:32:22.700 --> 00:32:25.319 tent pretty warm when we were out there, but 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.140 When that CEO monitor turned on that was enough 00:32:29.140 --> 00:32:32.940 for me That was that was scary. I fucking you 00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:36.140 wake up with a headache and Your CEO monitors 00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:39.259 going off saying you're in the yellow and I'm 00:32:39.259 --> 00:32:42.640 like, yep. Because it's just a losing battle 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.079 like, OK, then that means I have to vent better. 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.519 OK, well, then you're just losing more hot air 00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.519 like diesel heaters. The only way to go. I had 00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:54.720 that thing completely closed up. CEO meter was 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.519 at the top where all the heat was. I had zero 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:02.059 parts per million. Nothing the whole night. I. 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.900 I mean if you're using a propane heater in like 00:33:05.900 --> 00:33:09.140 uh like a canopy or something something that's 00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:11.599 pretty well ventilated to begin with uh it's 00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:15.000 pretty solid but I would never use a diesel heater 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:18.490 in like in like a closed vein here like that's 00:33:18.490 --> 00:33:21.369 just asking for issues that's yeah yeah yeah 00:33:21.369 --> 00:33:23.430 i was gonna say i'm like that's what i did all 00:33:23.430 --> 00:33:28.309 last weekend and i was fine like so yeah no but 00:33:28.309 --> 00:33:31.529 you you're mostly mesh vegan it was very windy 00:33:31.529 --> 00:33:34.869 for you too well after i used up all the the 00:33:34.869 --> 00:33:37.089 mat and stuff on there i i wasn't getting any 00:33:37.089 --> 00:33:40.049 wind travel through it thankfully but i still 00:33:40.049 --> 00:33:44.150 had a lot of thermal wash through the floor yeah 00:33:49.900 --> 00:33:55.039 Yeah, the buddies using he loves to come in now 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.299 like you just know I Totally I totally would 00:33:59.299 --> 00:34:02.400 have said hi bring it back. No Sienna already 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.880 locked the door closed it. He needs to be a common 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:10.199 occurrence on our He hasn't missed a week so 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:15.679 far in the last few weeks But he's we're potty 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.130 training right now so He's he's got the old spider 00:34:19.130 --> 00:34:24.210 -man chonies on and It is not going well. He's 00:34:24.210 --> 00:34:28.110 still young but like my lord Like hey, you need 00:34:28.110 --> 00:34:30.949 to go potty. Let me feel you gotta feel and it's 00:34:30.949 --> 00:34:32.989 like, oh you already pissed yourself Hey, why 00:34:32.989 --> 00:34:34.469 don't you tell us you had to go potty? He goes 00:34:34.469 --> 00:34:38.230 I have to go potty. I'm like, it's too late now 00:34:38.230 --> 00:34:42.269 Dude, it's too late Thankfully, he hasn't pooped 00:34:42.269 --> 00:34:45.230 yet in those but we've been just trying to introduce 00:34:45.230 --> 00:34:48.320 him to them And we went through like four of 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:52.760 them in three hours, his underwear. And at that 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.519 point, he was just getting tired of us changing 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:57.380 him all the time. So then he started to think 00:34:57.380 --> 00:34:59.960 it was more of a punishment. So we were like, 00:35:00.019 --> 00:35:01.360 all right, let's take a break from these for 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.900 a bit. But he's doing good. He's going to be 00:35:05.900 --> 00:35:08.800 such a cool camper. I'm super excited to do like 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.079 solo trips with him next year, because I think 00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.889 I think Sienna will probably hold. hang back 00:35:13.889 --> 00:35:16.150 on some of them, whether it's just from work 00:35:16.150 --> 00:35:18.570 or whatever. And me and him are going to try 00:35:18.570 --> 00:35:22.650 and still go out. I think now, I think now, especially 00:35:22.650 --> 00:35:25.650 because I'm watching him throughout the day, 00:35:25.929 --> 00:35:28.690 we bonded a lot better. So he's not always up 00:35:28.690 --> 00:35:30.809 mom's butt all the time. He wants to be with 00:35:30.809 --> 00:35:34.210 me, too, which is great. So I think that it's 00:35:34.210 --> 00:35:36.989 going to be a lot better year for that. And I'm 00:35:36.989 --> 00:35:39.130 excited to do some solos with them, just let 00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:42.639 them run around for the day. Sit is he could 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.239 just run around his underwear. I don't even care 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.420 Jax has been doing this new thing. That's really 00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:50.559 funny Every morning he wakes up and he goes I'm 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.340 on a case side today Or I'm on uncle Alex's side 00:35:54.340 --> 00:35:56.800 today rude that he spends the whole day hanging 00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.639 out with you know, whoever he Decided he wanted 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:01.760 Jasper gets up in the middle of the night and 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:08.000 or like so like we live with the dad again and 00:36:09.070 --> 00:36:12.309 he'll go to bed at like nine nine thirty because 00:36:12.309 --> 00:36:14.710 he gets up at like three thirty four to go to 00:36:14.710 --> 00:36:18.650 work and just to be clear when he says the dad 00:36:18.650 --> 00:36:21.150 he means Sienna's dad not saying Jasper has a 00:36:21.150 --> 00:36:24.289 different dad uh Sienna's dad the father -in 00:36:24.289 --> 00:36:28.170 -law we live with him so when Leo the father 00:36:28.170 --> 00:36:30.650 -in -law goes to bed at nine nine thirty Jasper 00:36:30.650 --> 00:36:33.150 comes up to me gives me a hug goes night night 00:36:33.150 --> 00:36:35.090 like where are you going i'm gonna go sleep with 00:36:35.090 --> 00:36:38.170 grandpa Like you ain't gonna go sleep with him 00:36:38.170 --> 00:36:40.130 like you're gonna go and try to like watch a 00:36:40.130 --> 00:36:43.929 TV show or something and so he like almost every 00:36:43.929 --> 00:36:47.489 night now he does it and then and eventually 00:36:47.489 --> 00:36:50.369 grandpa's like all right, you're done and He'll 00:36:50.369 --> 00:36:53.530 come into our room and then like he'll get pissed 00:36:53.530 --> 00:36:55.489 off at us for hogging the bed or something And 00:36:55.489 --> 00:36:58.289 he'll get off and go to grandpa's room. So in 00:36:58.289 --> 00:36:59.750 the middle of the night We just hear the door 00:36:59.750 --> 00:37:02.230 slam and we look and it's like it's either him 00:37:02.230 --> 00:37:04.780 coming in or him leaving because he can open 00:37:04.780 --> 00:37:08.400 and close doors and everything now. So he saw 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.519 Grandpa pull in today and he opened the front 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:12.900 door and is like in his underwear and is like 00:37:12.900 --> 00:37:16.719 grandpa, grandpa, grandpa. Like, son of a bitch, 00:37:16.860 --> 00:37:19.539 close the door like letting all the fucking hot 00:37:19.539 --> 00:37:23.659 air out. But he's doing good, man. He's growing. 00:37:24.099 --> 00:37:26.300 Like last year, he could open the zippers in 00:37:26.300 --> 00:37:29.480 the tent. So I'm excited for him to come out 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:34.619 camping with us. It's going to be fun, man. Yeah, 00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:37.059 he's he's really turning into quite the little 00:37:37.059 --> 00:37:40.360 kid. Yeah, and we have a fireplace in our living 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:44.199 room. So I feel like this next year fires are 00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:49.079 not gonna Be an issue with him really like Like 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.619 you normally you have to really watch kids run 00:37:51.619 --> 00:37:54.199 the fire and we've we've had him out since he 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:56.340 was six months old around fires and stuff So 00:37:56.340 --> 00:37:58.559 he was never really as dangerous as some of the 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:03.250 other kids that are like in the fire almost and 00:38:03.250 --> 00:38:05.769 he's never like fallen into it. He's he's stumbled 00:38:05.769 --> 00:38:08.030 a few times around it and everybody freaked out. 00:38:08.230 --> 00:38:10.170 And then he recovered and walked away from it. 00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:13.150 And everyone's like, oh, OK. But like he's never 00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:15.190 really had any like real close calls with it. 00:38:15.570 --> 00:38:18.090 So, yeah, I think that's just because we've had 00:38:18.090 --> 00:38:20.550 him around it so much that he's not like curious 00:38:20.550 --> 00:38:23.929 by it. Like he wants to throw sticks in it like 00:38:23.929 --> 00:38:26.230 that's every boy does. Right. Like we all wanted 00:38:26.230 --> 00:38:29.900 to throw sticks in. But he. But he's not like 00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:31.659 enamored by it. Like he doesn't want to go touch 00:38:31.659 --> 00:38:34.920 it or anything. So I think he's going to be really 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.559 good for camp this year. I'm really looking forward 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.199 to just watching him run around and be a kid 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.920 and get out of the house. Like winter, like being 00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:50.460 in the rural area is super good. Like, love it. 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.980 The bad part is, is like there's like nothing 00:38:53.980 --> 00:38:57.039 for him to really do. Like he'll go out. Yeah. 00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.380 He'll go outside for three minutes before he 00:38:59.380 --> 00:39:01.440 wants to come back inside because it's too cold. 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:04.760 And it's like there are no toddler play parks 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:08.739 anywhere nearby. Inside ones, there's like the 00:39:08.739 --> 00:39:12.699 trampoline place is too young for that. But like 00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.340 it's like an hour and 30 some minutes to get 00:39:15.340 --> 00:39:17.659 to like a toddler play place. And it's just not 00:39:17.659 --> 00:39:21.719 worth the drive for a few hours, you know. And 00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.099 then there's no other kids his age that it's 00:39:24.099 --> 00:39:27.389 like. I can't do like play dates or something. 00:39:27.389 --> 00:39:30.510 There's like no one else his age that will want 00:39:30.510 --> 00:39:34.750 to like play for a few hours and stuff. So it's 00:39:34.750 --> 00:39:38.210 kind of kind of sucks there. He's got no one 00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:39.769 to really play with. He's getting that cabin 00:39:39.769 --> 00:39:43.769 fever. And when kids can't get all their energy 00:39:43.769 --> 00:39:46.489 out and they're stuck at home all day, they tend 00:39:46.489 --> 00:39:48.949 to start getting into shit. So that's where you 00:39:48.949 --> 00:39:53.420 start having issues. I've got, I've got the seasonal 00:39:53.420 --> 00:39:56.760 depression pretty bad this year. Like I get it. 00:39:56.780 --> 00:39:59.159 I get it. I get it. I mean, me too. I've been 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.300 stuck inside for months. I'm like, I've been 00:40:01.300 --> 00:40:04.699 watching them this winter and it's been fun. 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:09.000 Not like, I'm not going to lie. Like it's been 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.719 fun, not working, but also like horribly stressful, 00:40:11.860 --> 00:40:15.360 not working like, you know, being that being 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.539 the provider for as long as I've been able to 00:40:19.539 --> 00:40:22.019 work. You know, being my own provider, being 00:40:22.019 --> 00:40:23.940 Sienna's provider since I've been with Sienna, 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.940 and then just kind of like handing her the reins 00:40:26.940 --> 00:40:29.780 and being like, do we have money for this? Like, 00:40:29.780 --> 00:40:33.179 I feel like a bitch, but it's like, I don't know. 00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.900 It's, it's weird. It's freeing in a way, because 00:40:35.900 --> 00:40:40.219 like, I don't have to stress about like getting 00:40:40.219 --> 00:40:44.579 up for work or work stuff like I was, but it 00:40:44.579 --> 00:40:46.420 just comes with a whole different set of like 00:40:46.420 --> 00:40:50.179 worries. Hey, you know because I'm not working 00:40:50.179 --> 00:40:52.139 are we gonna be able to do this blah blah blah 00:40:52.139 --> 00:40:54.860 We've been doing fine actually so far. We're 00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:59.840 catching up on stuff Like we had planned So everything's 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.619 working good. It's it was it was still a good 00:41:02.619 --> 00:41:06.980 idea and we needed to do it but So by the spring 00:41:06.980 --> 00:41:10.480 we'll be we'll be pretty well set Everything 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.739 will probably be paid off. I mean other than 00:41:12.739 --> 00:41:15.980 like them like the truck but Everything else 00:41:15.980 --> 00:41:19.139 is we're pretty well off So that's good. That's 00:41:19.139 --> 00:41:21.940 good. That's what I like to hear. Yeah. Yeah. 00:41:21.980 --> 00:41:24.039 I mean, Alex and Mark know, like I was hitting 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.400 some pretty hard times there at the at the like 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.420 fall going into winter. We were having some really 00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:32.659 tough times. Thought I was going to lose the 00:41:32.659 --> 00:41:34.500 truck there for a little bit. Thought we were 00:41:34.500 --> 00:41:38.000 going to lose the car to like trying to sell 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.340 everything I got and can't sell anything fast 00:41:40.340 --> 00:41:44.780 enough. And so dropping, you know, it was thirteen 00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:48.199 hundred dollars a month for child care. And Chopping 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.000 a few other things really helped out quite a 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:54.139 bit. So yeah, we're back on track now. Childcare 00:41:54.139 --> 00:41:57.980 is just too expensive, man. It's just not a super 00:41:57.980 --> 00:42:02.280 sustainable thing to do. Like it's good for Jasper. 00:42:02.579 --> 00:42:04.420 Like it's good for him to get out with other 00:42:04.420 --> 00:42:06.360 kids and stuff. And it gives them something to 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.760 do all day, but it's just too expensive, man. 00:42:09.980 --> 00:42:12.980 $1 ,300 a month. That's like, that's a mortgage 00:42:12.980 --> 00:42:15.500 payment, man. That's why we can't afford a mortgage 00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:17.440 is because we have to do that. Even with both 00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:22.199 of us working. It's expensive. Well, soon he'll 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.139 be in school. I mean, he's what too. So three 00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:27.719 -year -old preschool starts next year. Yeah, 00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:31.239 that's, uh, I'm hoping that we can get them by 00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.599 maybe just the summer and get them by. Maybe 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.659 I could do part -time and have some people watch 00:42:36.659 --> 00:42:38.719 them and stuff. We'll see how that we'll see 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:42.440 what plays out. I being honest, I don't even 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.380 know what the plan is. Our plan is just to pay 00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:50.300 stuff off for now. And I mean, if you play, if 00:42:50.300 --> 00:42:52.280 things get done right, three year old daycare 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:53.980 killing could end up being one of his teachers 00:42:53.980 --> 00:42:57.719 assistants. Yeah. I mean, three year old preschool, 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.059 I mean. Yeah. If once I get them into preschool, 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.699 it'd be amazing. Like once I don't have to pay 00:43:02.699 --> 00:43:05.539 for it, that's going to be our savior, because 00:43:05.539 --> 00:43:10.769 then I can pick up on the job again. I'm hoping, 00:43:10.769 --> 00:43:13.710 you know, someday we could start getting a little 00:43:13.710 --> 00:43:17.449 bit of money from the, our extracurricular activities 00:43:17.449 --> 00:43:21.489 we do as a group or as a, as my hobby. And it'll 00:43:21.489 --> 00:43:23.969 help supplement a little bit, but I don't by 00:43:23.969 --> 00:43:26.530 any means think that it'll be a full -time job 00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:30.769 till I'm 40. That's my plan. 40 years old. This 00:43:30.769 --> 00:43:34.210 will be a full -time job. I was telling my dad 00:43:34.210 --> 00:43:36.630 that I just want the podcast to start covering 00:43:36.630 --> 00:43:40.019 my bills so I could quit my job. And then he's 00:43:40.019 --> 00:43:43.360 like, well if you do some work on our other job 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.119 because we you know We own a hosting company 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.039 and I'm like, yeah But so far all I've done is 00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:50.179 answer some calls and we're still making money. 00:43:50.179 --> 00:43:53.800 So what do I need to do? Yeah, keep going man. 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.599 You need more. You need another worker throw 00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:01.179 me in but I uh Yeah, no, I mean I think I think 00:44:01.179 --> 00:44:06.760 by 40 We'll have a solid enough base I hate to 00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.659 say like a 10 year plan for us, but like, but 00:44:09.659 --> 00:44:12.239 like if we keep going with this for a few years 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:16.340 and we keep doing what we do, I think by 40, 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.300 we'd be solid enough to not retire or anything, 00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:22.980 but have supplemented income or at least good 00:44:22.980 --> 00:44:27.139 enough benefits from what we've done in the long 00:44:27.139 --> 00:44:31.539 as long as we've been in it to offset things 00:44:31.539 --> 00:44:36.250 like traveling or products that we get stuff 00:44:36.250 --> 00:44:40.730 like that so that would be the goal man that's 00:44:40.730 --> 00:44:46.849 kind of like I would love to travel and and you 00:44:46.849 --> 00:44:49.750 know invest into traveling and eventually get 00:44:49.750 --> 00:44:53.909 paid back for it or something but that's a I 00:44:53.909 --> 00:44:56.409 recognize and for me it's like it's a lazy thing 00:44:56.409 --> 00:44:59.650 too like I got to get over that I should have 00:44:59.650 --> 00:45:01.690 been filming most of this last weekend and I 00:45:01.690 --> 00:45:06.280 didn't That's all me I Did some filming and I 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.260 got some I made some reels that are doing good 00:45:09.260 --> 00:45:11.579 So yeah, I know I actually mine are doing really 00:45:11.579 --> 00:45:14.219 good for not having anybody tagged in them I'm 00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:17.519 like over a thousand views on both of those reels 00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:20.460 that I made the one where I was just showing 00:45:20.460 --> 00:45:23.480 camp and the other one Oddly enough the one where 00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:26.119 I have just a screenshot of my YouTube video 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:30.500 It got over a thousand views in like a day so 00:45:30.500 --> 00:45:34.630 the The one that I tagged 23 zero in before they 00:45:34.630 --> 00:45:37.130 accepted it, I was up to like 4000 views and 00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:40.550 then they accepted it and it just skyrocketed. 00:45:41.110 --> 00:45:44.769 Yes, it's 23 zero. And then the other warehouse 00:45:44.769 --> 00:45:48.769 place, I forget that works with 23 zero. They'll 00:45:48.769 --> 00:45:51.750 they'll take it to and put it on theirs. And 00:45:51.750 --> 00:45:56.750 that went out to like I have almost 300 views 00:45:56.750 --> 00:46:00.369 on my winter camping shakedown video. which was 00:46:00.369 --> 00:46:06.210 really just a couple... a couple clips of us 00:46:06.210 --> 00:46:08.989 bebopping some pictures and then me talking about 00:46:08.989 --> 00:46:13.929 it after. I have 300 views on it in two days, 00:46:14.789 --> 00:46:16.869 so... which is better than anything else I've 00:46:16.869 --> 00:46:20.849 had. The real of my bumper breaking is still 00:46:20.849 --> 00:46:24.650 gaining views. I'm up to 38 ,040. Yep. I'm at 00:46:24.650 --> 00:46:27.860 like 60 ,000 with the... with the one that I 00:46:27.860 --> 00:46:32.059 made. I forget which one it is. And that's without 00:46:32.059 --> 00:46:34.260 posting it on Facebook. If I post it on Facebook, 00:46:34.420 --> 00:46:38.199 it fucking skyrocket because the Facebook algorithm 00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:44.360 just feeds crap to people. Yeah, where's notifications? 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.539 Oh, yeah, I always like looking at the the metrics 00:46:50.539 --> 00:46:54.139 behind this stuff. So interesting. It's not like. 00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:57.400 It's not like that we do well, but it's just 00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:00.840 it's cool to see the metrics on it. That one, 00:47:00.900 --> 00:47:04.260 you've got 60 ,000. I bet the majority are Facebook, 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:05.820 aren't they? Because I know you post all years 00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:09.039 on Facebook. They just cross post. So it's not 00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.800 like I do it like, well, like now unwillingly, 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:17.800 but like it just cross post. So I turn my cross 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.260 post off. I don't want my friends and family 00:47:20.260 --> 00:47:23.980 to know what I'm doing. I do. I, it's funny cause 00:47:23.980 --> 00:47:27.480 I talk to them. I'll talk to my friends and family 00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.920 and stuff and they'll be like, Oh yeah, I saw 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:31.780 that you went and did this or I saw you and did 00:47:31.780 --> 00:47:34.260 that. And that was really cool. It was really, 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.619 it's been really cool watching you do this stuff. 00:47:37.019 --> 00:47:39.219 Like we don't talk much, but I'm always watching 00:47:39.219 --> 00:47:41.940 it and I really enjoy it. It's like, that's cool. 00:47:42.179 --> 00:47:44.920 Cause I'm not great at contacting family and 00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.320 stuff, but it's good that they're keeping up. 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:53.769 I suppose. Um, yeah. Where's. I think it's interesting 00:47:53.769 --> 00:47:56.389 to just see like what platform stuff does well 00:47:56.389 --> 00:47:59.570 on. Excuse me. Yeah. Well, someone tapped one 00:47:59.570 --> 00:48:03.570 of my external links lately. Interesting. I don't 00:48:03.570 --> 00:48:06.010 know which one that was. I wish they told me 00:48:06.010 --> 00:48:11.889 it's interesting. But yeah. Trying to see on 00:48:11.889 --> 00:48:15.309 that one that you were talking about. Oh, that's 00:48:15.309 --> 00:48:18.289 the last 30 days. That's 90 days. Let's see. 00:48:18.730 --> 00:48:21.809 Yeah. So the bison gear one, that's up to 10. 00:48:22.190 --> 00:48:25.969 point seven thousand views being tagged through 00:48:25.969 --> 00:48:32.090 bison gear non -followers mostly and The other 00:48:32.090 --> 00:48:38.030 bison gear ones five thousand the The one with 00:48:38.030 --> 00:48:42.190 your third gen in it That one's at like two thousand 00:48:42.190 --> 00:48:46.869 views the I have a couple of them. I mean the 00:48:46.869 --> 00:48:49.030 views are the views don't count as much as the 00:48:49.030 --> 00:48:55.579 likes but I think I get more from the more views, 00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:01.519 the better. Um the more followers I think that 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.980 I retained from that kind of thing. Yeah. So, 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:10.679 yeah, that's pretty cool. It's cool. Alright, 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:13.460 I think we should get off of here. Yeah, I think 00:49:13.460 --> 00:49:17.659 Mark's falling asleep. I am falling asleep here. 00:49:18.179 --> 00:49:23.019 Yeah, it's been a long, long drive. I still, 00:49:23.179 --> 00:49:25.380 I got baby birds today, so I still got to work 00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:31.320 for like an hour or so. Yeah, I drove all the 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:33.280 way down to Holland and all the way up to Hispira 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.860 to work today and then over home. So I've been 00:49:35.860 --> 00:49:38.900 all over the place today. Yeah. Well, on that 00:49:38.900 --> 00:49:41.099 note, thanks for listening, guys, and we will 00:49:41.099 --> 00:49:43.760 see you on the next one. Later.