WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.359 Welcome to botches off -road and you're just 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:07.240 gonna have me and mark today. Yep Alex's Alex 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:10.820 is sicky. So we're gonna Let him take his little 00:00:10.820 --> 00:00:13.599 break and we are gonna hit you guys with a rap 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:17.219 So we did actually have a pretty interesting 00:00:17.219 --> 00:00:19.519 weekend. I think both of us did. Oh, yeah, we 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:24.800 did Yeah, I'll let mark started off with what 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:29.399 him and Alex did and Yeah Take it away there, 00:00:29.420 --> 00:00:33.020 man. All right. So Friday, we decided to go winter 00:00:33.020 --> 00:00:37.039 camping up at Mixpoint. Pretty good spot to do 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:39.100 winter camping at. It was actually pretty not 00:00:39.100 --> 00:00:46.939 bad at all. Been there before. Alex got a battery. 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:50.560 And then we also picked up another diesel heater 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.780 after our previous week of experience. I don't 00:00:53.780 --> 00:00:55.579 know if that was covered in last week's wrap 00:00:55.579 --> 00:01:02.520 or not. Yeah, okay Yep, so we discovered that 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:06.060 potentially three tenths was too much there how 00:01:06.060 --> 00:01:08.939 Our vents were lined up because his sat lower 00:01:08.939 --> 00:01:12.000 than our me and my brothers are set up a little 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.040 higher So we're thinking that we were not pushing 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.560 air The correct way so it was not distributing 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.180 but at its potential like a like more of a back 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:24.560 pressure Like it didn't have enough pressure 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:29.349 to push. Yeah all three. Yeah So we got those 00:01:29.349 --> 00:01:36.329 up and running and then We got a campy up Alex 00:01:36.329 --> 00:01:42.569 bought a Ozark propane heater which Was actually 00:01:42.569 --> 00:01:44.829 a lot bigger than we thought it was going to 00:01:44.829 --> 00:01:48.129 be he saw a listing for it and down Holland on 00:01:48.129 --> 00:01:52.489 Facebook but by the time I think it was like 00:01:53.219 --> 00:01:55.900 40 dollars for a Facebook market, but it's how 00:01:55.900 --> 00:01:57.920 you drove down there and back. You probably waste 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.280 about as much as in fuel price to buy a new one. 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:03.819 Yeah, I wish you would have told me. I wish you 00:02:03.819 --> 00:02:05.420 would have told me. I have two of them. I have 00:02:05.420 --> 00:02:08.180 a buddy heater, then I have like the propane 00:02:08.180 --> 00:02:10.360 heater you just throw on top of a 20 pounder. 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.680 Yeah. So if you would have just told me it would 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.000 have been fine, you could just use it. Yeah. 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:20.840 I didn't know he planned on it. He was. He had 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:23.460 his buddy heater, but it found out he found out 00:02:23.460 --> 00:02:26.280 it doesn't work anymore For some other reason 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:29.180 got broke. What happened? Do you know knows? 00:02:30.699 --> 00:02:36.060 I? Don't know if he knows He went to test it. 00:02:36.060 --> 00:02:38.599 It just wasn't putting it out. I think we had 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:42.219 issues last time we use it, too. I Didn't hear 00:02:42.219 --> 00:02:47.240 that interesting. Yeah, I'm trying to think Thing 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.960 was our botches yearly last year when we had 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:52.340 after that ash. I'm trying to remember when he 00:02:52.340 --> 00:02:55.360 had issues Actually, it might have been last 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.439 spring we had issues with it. So I think we went 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.219 to use it and they can't be last year The diesel 00:03:01.219 --> 00:03:04.259 heater? No the propane heater. Oh the propane 00:03:04.259 --> 00:03:05.379 heater. Yeah, I thought you were talking about 00:03:05.379 --> 00:03:07.719 the diesel heater No, hear about that not working. 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.800 No, no, no, no the buddy heater. Yeah, okay, 00:03:11.319 --> 00:03:16.710 but um see here took us about Maybe an hour maybe 00:03:16.710 --> 00:03:18.849 a little less. I don't think it took us super 00:03:18.849 --> 00:03:23.449 long to set up. Yeah His way he had the dog swag 00:03:23.449 --> 00:03:26.530 or the wolf den and then we got me and my brother's 00:03:26.530 --> 00:03:29.189 tent And then we have a canopy to set up right? 00:03:29.669 --> 00:03:35.819 Oh, we do a little bit of shoveling. Oh and We 00:03:35.819 --> 00:03:38.800 the trail we went on literally had like no tracks 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.280 like so no one's been there like all winter so 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:44.360 far So yeah, you got I want to say halfway down 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.259 the short way getting back to mix point We had 00:03:47.259 --> 00:03:50.080 an air down about halfway through it cuz he ended 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.719 up bottoming out or couldn't push any more snow 00:03:53.719 --> 00:04:00.240 yeah, we had a similar a Similar time up up in 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.139 Buckley, but I'll tell you guys more about that 00:04:02.139 --> 00:04:06.599 later. Yeah I want to say just below our knees 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.919 was how deep it was. Maybe a little bit less 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:11.680 than that, but it was a good amount of snow and 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:16.560 it was very powder. Yep. So it was very fun trying 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:21.959 to drive through. Um, how'd it go? I mean, did 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:25.240 you guys heat? Well, was this a lot? Oh yes, 00:04:25.420 --> 00:04:30.019 a lot better than last time. So not quite familiar 00:04:30.019 --> 00:04:32.579 with his diesel heater, but me and my brother's 00:04:32.579 --> 00:04:36.060 diesel heater. It has like 10 different 10 power 00:04:36.060 --> 00:04:40.600 settings. When we first started up, we got it 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:43.639 cranked up to 10 and we showed in the canopy 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.660 and had dinner. That way our tents were nice 00:04:46.660 --> 00:04:49.860 and warm and it was very toasted. Like you can 00:04:49.860 --> 00:04:52.699 open our rain fly and you can feel all that hot 00:04:52.699 --> 00:04:55.720 air coming out of the tent. So it was heating 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.980 ours really well. Um, nighttime we pretty much 00:04:59.980 --> 00:05:03.529 did I think we had it set to five, and that was 00:05:03.529 --> 00:05:08.430 comfortable. Had zero issues with it. Ran all 00:05:08.430 --> 00:05:11.970 night then? Oh yeah, all night. For our dinner, 00:05:12.110 --> 00:05:16.029 we had venison steak, mashed potato and corn. 00:05:17.370 --> 00:05:19.670 Hell yeah. Yep, that was really good. Way better 00:05:19.670 --> 00:05:25.029 than my dinner. So did you do Friday and Saturday? 00:05:25.290 --> 00:05:28.509 We did Friday and Saturday. Did Saturday, was 00:05:28.509 --> 00:05:31.509 that any different as far as? Like the heating? 00:05:32.009 --> 00:05:37.629 We had discovered a couple things. So Saturday 00:05:37.629 --> 00:05:40.810 morning, me and my brother forgot to top off 00:05:40.810 --> 00:05:44.509 our diesel heater. And literally, I think around 00:05:44.509 --> 00:05:49.050 10 o 'clock, we ran out of fuel. So I mean, at 00:05:49.050 --> 00:05:53.410 least we got through until morning. Oh, yeah, 00:05:53.410 --> 00:05:55.329 make sure you top off. You don't have to worry 00:05:55.329 --> 00:05:59.779 about it. And then... He didn't - Alex didn't 00:05:59.779 --> 00:06:04.300 have all the wires set up yet? Yeah, I did. What 00:06:04.300 --> 00:06:07.939 are you talking about? Yeah. You feeling better 00:06:07.939 --> 00:06:11.180 there, Alex? Well, I haven't coughed in a while. 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.980 My voice still sucks, but it's what it is. Are 00:06:14.980 --> 00:06:18.620 you recording? I am recording, of course. I'm 00:06:18.620 --> 00:06:20.540 not going to start talking without recording. 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:26.100 Well, you never know. So I guess Alex decided 00:06:26.100 --> 00:06:29.149 to join us after all. I couldn't let you guys 00:06:29.149 --> 00:06:33.189 have all the fun. Yeah. OK. We were having plenty 00:06:33.189 --> 00:06:38.189 of fun. But we didn't have all the rap rap. We're 00:06:38.189 --> 00:06:46.050 on the rap. OK, cool. Yeah. So we're going. You 00:06:46.050 --> 00:06:49.209 just you could have asked before. Look at this. 00:06:49.670 --> 00:06:53.860 Very professional here. It just peeped right 00:06:53.860 --> 00:06:56.360 in in the middle something that we're told not 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.560 I mean he did try making me do it last week But 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:06.939 then yeah, I did Yeah, so So yeah, you guys had 00:07:06.939 --> 00:07:10.740 venison steak for Friday Saturday you guys realized 00:07:10.740 --> 00:07:15.420 that your Fuel ran out at around 10 a .m. Ish 00:07:15.420 --> 00:07:18.160 But I'm assuming you guys had no issues with 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.879 gelling or anything like that, right? No No gelling 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:26.339 at all. Yeah. I really think the diesel heaters 00:07:26.339 --> 00:07:29.540 keep the inside of their case fairly warm. I 00:07:29.540 --> 00:07:31.600 guess I never put my hand on the case to see 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.740 if it was, but it never gelled. So, yeah, I mean, 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:39.600 mine stayed cool, but it was never cold. So. 00:07:41.379 --> 00:07:44.000 The actual diesel that poured out definitely 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.579 gelled out, though, like the low residue on the 00:07:46.579 --> 00:07:51.000 top. So it was definitely cold. Oh, sure. Well, 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.839 so what did you guys do Saturday then? So we 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.019 ran in town because Alex didn't have the plugs 00:07:58.019 --> 00:08:01.000 to plug to his other battery So it couldn't charge 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:04.139 in the vehicle right away. Yeah Yeah, I needed 00:08:04.139 --> 00:08:08.740 some battery terminals. Yep So we ended up going 00:08:08.740 --> 00:08:11.819 town ran a couple errands Dropped the battery 00:08:11.819 --> 00:08:13.860 off or I always discharge and we went to have 00:08:13.860 --> 00:08:18.379 lunch. We went to the moon dance cafe It's a 00:08:18.379 --> 00:08:24.480 good place It is. Their French toast is killer. 00:08:25.579 --> 00:08:28.199 Oh, wait, no. Is it the French toast or the stuffed 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:30.319 pancakes or whatever they're called? I couldn't 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:32.919 remember what they're called. Yeah, I think I 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.259 had like a peach one. It was like they were stuffed 00:08:36.259 --> 00:08:39.279 or something. And oh my god, dude. We went there 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.240 for probably a week straight for breakfast. And 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:44.559 then I got tired of it. I was like, all right, 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:48.980 I'm over it. Had everything on the menu within 00:08:48.980 --> 00:08:52.840 that week, and I was like yeah Yeah, I had the 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:55.620 heroes burger from there their coffee though 00:08:55.620 --> 00:08:59.779 their coffee though really good coffee like that's 00:08:59.779 --> 00:09:02.519 a For most of the summer we were taking their 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:06.080 bagged beans from dance cafe From their little 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.240 coffee. We were getting the beans from it and 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:09.960 then grinding them fresh every morning. It's 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:14.620 a coffee at camp awesome So we had lunch and 00:09:14.620 --> 00:09:17.379 then we quickly stopped by picked up the battery 00:09:17.379 --> 00:09:25.139 again went back to camp We I think did you put 00:09:25.139 --> 00:09:27.320 you finished putting terminals bound before we 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:30.679 hooked up the battery again? Yeah, that's what 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:38.639 I thought. Yep Um And then we did a we did a 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:43.570 link battery would last uh so we turned it on 00:09:43.570 --> 00:09:47.289 at like i'd say one o 'clock we turned on both 00:09:47.289 --> 00:09:49.429 diesel heaters yeah part of it was so that wrangler 00:09:49.429 --> 00:09:54.250 had a warm tent uh and then at like yeah 1 30 00:09:54.250 --> 00:09:59.610 was about 130 we were discussing going to bed 00:09:59.610 --> 00:10:04.610 soon and yeah both diesel heaters um i was missing 00:10:04.610 --> 00:10:07.970 unintentionally pressed the on button which i 00:10:07.970 --> 00:10:12.169 think might have missed with the Settings so 00:10:12.169 --> 00:10:14.850 instead of being the power modes that I was talking 00:10:14.850 --> 00:10:18.289 about earlier I Put into the tent mode. What 00:10:18.289 --> 00:10:22.330 was in supposedly the inside temp for the tent? 00:10:22.529 --> 00:10:28.970 so No, it's it was reading it was reading the 00:10:28.970 --> 00:10:30.929 thermostat Which is on the front of the case 00:10:30.929 --> 00:10:33.490 which was outside and it was trying to make it 00:10:33.490 --> 00:10:36.629 80 degrees Yeah, that's yeah, but it was like 00:10:36.629 --> 00:10:42.149 negative five at the thermostat Oh, not on that 00:10:42.149 --> 00:10:43.250 one, I believe. Do you have the little extending 00:10:43.250 --> 00:10:45.769 wire that you can bring the display into the 00:10:45.769 --> 00:10:49.929 tent with? OK. Mine does. I just haven't done 00:10:49.929 --> 00:10:53.250 it yet. The other one we just got, we got the 00:10:53.250 --> 00:10:55.429 first heater that can get here as quickly as 00:10:55.429 --> 00:10:57.789 possible. So it was like one of the cheaper ones. 00:10:58.750 --> 00:11:02.490 But other than that, that thing ran real well. 00:11:03.370 --> 00:11:08.830 Yeah. It's actually quieter than Alex's. That's 00:11:08.830 --> 00:11:12.179 good. You mean, what did you guys do? Did you 00:11:12.179 --> 00:11:21.600 guys do any wheeling or anything? Yeah. No. Just 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:26.840 in and out? No. It was just a chill weekend. 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:29.919 We didn't do a whole lot of anything. And I'm 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:34.340 assuming that it was really warm and nobody got 00:11:34.340 --> 00:11:36.899 sick or anything. He was sick from chores at 00:11:36.899 --> 00:11:43.340 the farm. I was sick long before we did it. His 00:11:43.340 --> 00:11:47.360 body was anticipating it It was like yeah, I'm 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:51.100 gonna get sick right now before we even go so 00:11:51.100 --> 00:11:54.860 yeah, that's I uh We did shavings at the farm 00:11:54.860 --> 00:11:57.679 and literally like two hours after doing shavings 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.940 my sinuses clogged up, and I just have been fighting 00:12:00.940 --> 00:12:05.059 a Sinus things ever since Yeah, I have, like, 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.399 bad asthma to, like, dust and stuff. So, like, 00:12:08.500 --> 00:12:11.480 wood shaving dust, hay dust, any kind of, like, 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.700 dry grass, that stuff. I was even wearing a mask. 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.419 Oh, yeah. That stuff gives me, like, asthma attacks, 00:12:18.419 --> 00:12:20.320 like, to the point I have to go to the hospital. 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.460 So I got to be careful around that shit. So that's 00:12:24.460 --> 00:12:27.100 why I don't do hay anymore. In high school, I 00:12:27.100 --> 00:12:29.100 started having asthma attacks. My grandma was 00:12:29.100 --> 00:12:33.429 like, you're being a sissy. Just just breathe. 00:12:33.429 --> 00:12:40.230 I'm like, yeah, I am trying Get that old old 00:12:40.230 --> 00:12:43.750 farm lady mentality. It's just just work it out. 00:12:43.750 --> 00:12:47.690 You'll be fine Yeah, we play that lot. Yes, I 00:12:47.690 --> 00:12:49.590 already and then also earlier in day we were 00:12:49.590 --> 00:12:52.149 pulling wires dice golf, but we played that for 00:12:52.149 --> 00:12:58.620 like Yeah while we were waiting for the batteries 00:12:58.620 --> 00:13:02.940 to recharge. We played 18 holes and then nine 00:13:02.940 --> 00:13:10.940 holes. Yeah. God, I haven't played cards in a 00:13:10.940 --> 00:13:13.700 long time. I used to play euchre in high school. 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.440 You'd have like games where we'd decide not to 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.940 play like Halo Reach until four in the morning 00:13:18.940 --> 00:13:22.120 and we'd like play euchre till three a .m. instead. 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:25.320 And that was fun. But we'll ask you last time. 00:13:25.659 --> 00:13:28.850 Yeah. We'll have to do golf. Does it doesn't 00:13:28.850 --> 00:13:32.129 take long to pick out how to play it? It's a 00:13:32.129 --> 00:13:37.009 really fun card game. I like Uno. Uno's fun. 00:13:37.450 --> 00:13:40.850 Then we had walking tacos for dinner that night, 00:13:41.129 --> 00:13:43.929 too. Yeah, we'll have to throw it down sometime. 00:13:46.330 --> 00:13:54.049 Yeah, those are always super easy. I think I 00:13:54.049 --> 00:13:56.909 packed a whole bunch of stuff. Oh, I forgot about 00:13:56.909 --> 00:14:00.730 that. And I didn't eat, like, any of those two 00:14:00.730 --> 00:14:03.190 things. Yeah, he bought a whole box of unopened 00:14:03.190 --> 00:14:04.850 MREs. He mixed our walking tacos with some of 00:14:04.850 --> 00:14:05.629 the Mexican dishes and the MREs. He's like, oh, 00:14:05.629 --> 00:14:09.669 let's grab all the Spanish -related or Mexican 00:14:09.669 --> 00:14:21.639 food -related. Dude. We should have. We got to 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:25.559 do like a review on those. I've got another six 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:28.519 or seven boxes. Hello. Yeah, we got to do a review 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:32.460 on those like a camp night review or bring out 00:14:32.460 --> 00:14:36.379 the money I got for uploaded onto this for emergencies. 00:14:36.940 --> 00:14:40.240 Oh, I've got five in my truck and I think Mark's 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.820 got four in his or six in his or some shit. Oh, 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:49.899 I see. Yeah, I didn't know I had a. I had two 00:14:49.899 --> 00:14:53.139 or three meals of my freeze dried still in my 00:14:53.139 --> 00:14:55.200 truck. I didn't even know it until I was going 00:14:55.200 --> 00:15:01.360 through drawers while I was at camp. So for me, 00:15:01.620 --> 00:15:05.120 I actually went to, I went to a whole separate 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:11.580 gig up by Buckley, met up with Mitch and we went 00:15:11.580 --> 00:15:15.600 up to, met at the Buckley General Store, talked 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:17.259 for a little bit, found out that we were going 00:15:17.259 --> 00:15:21.029 to be the only ones there for now. And so we 00:15:21.029 --> 00:15:23.049 kind of got moving, looking for a camp spot for 00:15:23.049 --> 00:15:26.629 the night. He had some coordinates in mind. And 00:15:26.629 --> 00:15:31.269 we drove about 15, 20 minutes out onto the road. 00:15:32.230 --> 00:15:34.970 Went to go turn off the road and saw like a foot 00:15:34.970 --> 00:15:38.110 and a half pile where the snow plows had driven. 00:15:38.509 --> 00:15:41.070 And then it was just deep snow after. And we're 00:15:41.070 --> 00:15:42.470 like, all right, well, we're going to air down 00:15:42.470 --> 00:15:49.889 real quick right here. So we aired down. He took 00:15:49.889 --> 00:15:54.210 one pass, and it got stuck on the plow hill. 00:15:54.230 --> 00:15:58.210 And that should have been our sign that it wasn't 00:15:58.210 --> 00:16:02.509 meant to be. But I was like, no big deal. Got 00:16:02.509 --> 00:16:04.649 the kinetic rope out real quick, pulled him out. 00:16:05.330 --> 00:16:08.549 He tried it again, pulled him out one more time, 00:16:08.669 --> 00:16:10.970 hit it the third time, and boom, got through. 00:16:13.029 --> 00:16:16.210 And then so he got through, stopped. I pulled 00:16:16.210 --> 00:16:20.159 through. Then we started trucking down that. 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:21.960 And I think we made it probably a couple hundred 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.159 yards before we started to realize it's getting 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:28.480 deep, deep quick. Like, once we got over that 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:31.960 hill, it was already like a foot deep. And then 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:33.740 past that, it just started getting deeper and 00:16:33.740 --> 00:16:37.580 deeper as we got into the woods. And we got probably 00:16:37.580 --> 00:16:40.840 what? For anyone that doesn't know about Michigan 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:44.200 snow, we don't get that hard pack, right? We 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:47.929 just have fluff. Yeah. So yeah, when you're a 00:16:47.929 --> 00:16:50.190 foot and a half deep, it's a foot and a half 00:16:50.190 --> 00:16:53.210 to ice. There's no hard pack to grip. There's 00:16:53.210 --> 00:16:56.809 nothing. It's just foot and a half of snow, wet, 00:16:57.230 --> 00:17:01.909 icy leaves underneath. Yep. So and I think luckily 00:17:01.909 --> 00:17:05.089 over here, I think up north, I was about two 00:17:05.089 --> 00:17:07.930 hours north. They had like a small amount of 00:17:07.930 --> 00:17:10.049 hard pack, but it wasn't like the trucks could 00:17:10.049 --> 00:17:12.529 still break through it. If you started spinning. 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.619 That's all it took to kind of break through the 00:17:14.619 --> 00:17:17.480 hard pack. And then you were fucked fucked. So 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:21.420 anyway, we got through that. We got about I'd 00:17:21.420 --> 00:17:24.660 say a couple hundred yards into the trail and 00:17:24.660 --> 00:17:28.819 immediately got stuck. Mitch got stuck. Well, 00:17:28.859 --> 00:17:31.559 I pulled him back and he could not get into the 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:34.960 ruts. We were in about two feet of snow. And 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:37.079 once you kind of once you kind of get pulled 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:38.920 out of those ruts, it's really hard to bring 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.589 yourself back in. You know, you can try steering 00:17:42.589 --> 00:17:44.730 all you want driving back into it and it just 00:17:44.730 --> 00:17:48.690 it won't let you So especially on alterings alterings 00:17:48.690 --> 00:17:51.089 are just they're not good in that kind of snow 00:17:51.089 --> 00:17:55.529 Yeah, so anyway, we uh, I eventually pulled him 00:17:55.529 --> 00:17:57.470 out far enough that he could get back into the 00:17:57.470 --> 00:18:01.369 ruts but it took a little bit and We started 00:18:01.369 --> 00:18:05.549 driving and then I went in and I was just driving 00:18:05.549 --> 00:18:08.150 but you when you got two and a half some feet 00:18:08.150 --> 00:18:11.190 of snow You can't tell what the trail really 00:18:11.190 --> 00:18:14.190 looks like on either side. You can see small 00:18:14.190 --> 00:18:17.289 indentations. I mean, it's just, it's hard to 00:18:17.289 --> 00:18:21.289 know. And on the left and right side of the trail 00:18:21.289 --> 00:18:23.289 were like washouts where like jeeps would go 00:18:23.289 --> 00:18:25.730 in and just like tear the fuck out of it or something. 00:18:25.950 --> 00:18:29.630 I just assume it's a Jeep because that's typical 00:18:29.630 --> 00:18:34.329 XJ owner activities. So they, uh, so immediately 00:18:34.329 --> 00:18:37.410 I got pulled into one of those and that pulled 00:18:37.410 --> 00:18:40.859 me off the road. uh into the kind of into the 00:18:40.859 --> 00:18:42.759 ditch a little bit as soon as I hit that rut 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:47.680 and that was kind of a doozy he tried pulling 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.339 me out um and he kind of got stuck trying just 00:18:51.339 --> 00:18:53.259 trying to yank me he kind of sank right through 00:18:53.259 --> 00:18:56.319 that little pack and there was another like six 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.559 inches of snow underneath that and he was just 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.319 digging too so I ended up trying to winch myself 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:07.500 out um I winched myself forward a little bit 00:19:07.500 --> 00:19:12.029 and then He tried to back up. We connected both 00:19:12.029 --> 00:19:15.230 of our kinetic ropes together because he couldn't 00:19:15.230 --> 00:19:19.609 get close enough without sinking in. So he got 00:19:19.609 --> 00:19:22.009 to a better place where he could actually go 00:19:22.009 --> 00:19:24.069 forward and backward a little bit, pulled me, 00:19:24.410 --> 00:19:27.650 eventually got out of that. And we were kind 00:19:27.650 --> 00:19:30.930 of thinking about what to do next. And then he 00:19:30.930 --> 00:19:35.349 got stuck again trying to go through. So. then 00:19:35.349 --> 00:19:37.710 he got stuck. He only had a few winch points 00:19:37.710 --> 00:19:39.829 to go through and they weren't enough to get 00:19:39.829 --> 00:19:43.910 him back kind of where we wanted to go. And so 00:19:43.910 --> 00:19:46.529 we were both trying to figure it out. And I'm 00:19:46.529 --> 00:19:50.170 like, well, maybe if I can get over here, there's 00:19:50.170 --> 00:19:52.910 kind of like a turnaround point, like a like 00:19:52.910 --> 00:19:56.369 a like a drive almost. And I'm like, well, maybe 00:19:56.369 --> 00:19:58.289 if I could pull around here, it might be the 00:19:58.289 --> 00:20:00.450 snow might be shallower up here into this area. 00:20:00.470 --> 00:20:02.430 And then I could try to turn around and get us 00:20:02.430 --> 00:20:05.380 pull us out. So I was facing the opposite direction 00:20:05.380 --> 00:20:08.900 to be able to pull us out. And I pulled into 00:20:08.900 --> 00:20:14.200 that. Nope. Even deeper. So I was getting snow 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.839 just about at headlight level. So I'm on 33s 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:20.660 and lifted three inches. So headlight level is 00:20:20.660 --> 00:20:25.000 pretty good. It was over my hips at that point. 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:31.019 So yeah, I was frozen. My feet were frozen from 00:20:31.019 --> 00:20:35.930 our knees down. were complete solid, and I had 00:20:35.930 --> 00:20:38.369 snow from pretty much my hips down. We were just 00:20:38.369 --> 00:20:41.390 not having a good time. So that took me a long 00:20:41.390 --> 00:20:45.630 time to get out of. Him pulling me, me winching, 00:20:45.769 --> 00:20:48.829 I mean, almost 90 degrees to the left to the 00:20:48.829 --> 00:20:54.650 tree just to help push me out. And at some point, 00:20:55.309 --> 00:20:58.809 he was able to get turned around by some grace 00:20:58.809 --> 00:21:01.759 of God. During all that I think it was just because 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:03.839 we were running over that certain area so many 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:07.940 times that we packed it down enough and I was 00:21:07.940 --> 00:21:10.140 trying to get up and turn around because I was 00:21:10.140 --> 00:21:12.519 wedged in between two trees so I wasn't able 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:16.279 to turn and so I went on the new trail it you 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:18.500 know farther than we had driven and it got stuck 00:21:18.500 --> 00:21:23.480 again and That took us probably another 45 minutes 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:27.720 to an hour. And so we were there in a total of 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:32.650 like four hours within not even a, I would say 00:21:32.650 --> 00:21:35.190 maybe a quarter mile into that trail for four 00:21:35.190 --> 00:21:38.549 hours, just trying to get turned around at that 00:21:38.549 --> 00:21:42.130 point and get out of there. And when we finally 00:21:42.130 --> 00:21:44.490 got out, we were both kind of like, Oh my God, 00:21:44.509 --> 00:21:46.809 I can't believe we got it. It was already dark. 00:21:47.430 --> 00:21:52.049 We met at like two, left at like two 30 and we 00:21:52.049 --> 00:21:55.210 were, we left at like six something. So we were 00:21:55.210 --> 00:21:58.630 there for a while just pulling and trying to 00:21:58.630 --> 00:22:03.089 get out of there recovering. Um, so he asked 00:22:03.089 --> 00:22:06.009 if I wanted to keep like looking for trails or 00:22:06.009 --> 00:22:09.309 he knew a spot where it was plowed that we could 00:22:09.309 --> 00:22:11.410 go. And I was like, that's just go there. I'm 00:22:11.410 --> 00:22:13.569 not, I don't want to play anymore. I want to 00:22:13.569 --> 00:22:17.750 set up camp. I'm like, I was done. I was cold, 00:22:18.089 --> 00:22:20.049 freezing my ass off. I couldn't feel my toes. 00:22:20.690 --> 00:22:24.430 So we got there, he started setting up his camp, 00:22:24.509 --> 00:22:27.809 working on the fire. I sat in my truck for a 00:22:27.809 --> 00:22:30.029 little bit just to warm my toes up. When I was 00:22:30.029 --> 00:22:33.410 ready to go, I started setting up camp and it 00:22:33.410 --> 00:22:36.869 was just, I brought my Nemo Dagger. That was 00:22:36.869 --> 00:22:43.230 a two season tent, mostly mesh and ended up being 00:22:43.230 --> 00:22:46.579 my downfall later on. I started setting that 00:22:46.579 --> 00:22:49.319 up. And man, it had been probably a year and 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:52.339 a half since I'd set that up last spring, maybe. 00:22:52.980 --> 00:22:56.400 So I was kind of like, I don't know what I'm 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.099 doing, really. It had been a while. And setting 00:23:00.099 --> 00:23:02.680 it up, and of course, as soon as I start setting 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:05.119 it up, it starts heavy snowing. So I'm getting 00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:10.240 snow in the tent. He comes over, helps me. Where 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.660 we're at, we can't really stake it down, so. 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:17.079 so sliding all over the place the the tarp and 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.700 everything and it was just a pain I was getting 00:23:19.700 --> 00:23:26.140 stressed out I was cold and so anyway I eventually 00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:28.799 got it set up and then as soon as I got it set 00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:31.619 up and my gear in there and everything ready 00:23:31.619 --> 00:23:34.680 diesel heater on that was starting to get warm 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:38.259 I was looking happy forward to it then the wind 00:23:38.259 --> 00:23:40.660 started picking up out of nowhere we're in the 00:23:40.660 --> 00:23:43.670 woods But the wind was coming through from the 00:23:43.670 --> 00:23:46.349 fields It was kind of sheltered like Alex's little 00:23:46.349 --> 00:23:48.769 camp spot on his property gotcha like there were 00:23:48.769 --> 00:23:50.930 trees around us But it wasn't enough to shelter 00:23:50.930 --> 00:23:52.849 from like field I know especially during the 00:23:52.849 --> 00:23:55.589 winter time where all that covers gone. Yeah 00:23:55.589 --> 00:23:59.049 So so we were starting to get that wind come 00:23:59.049 --> 00:24:03.069 in and oh my god, dude. It was Frigid we were 00:24:03.069 --> 00:24:06.349 we were good into the you know, probably couple 00:24:06.349 --> 00:24:10.380 under negative and with that wind coming in like 00:24:10.380 --> 00:24:13.720 as I'm breathing my mustache is freezing and 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:17.579 I'm uh Where's we're sitting pretty much in the 00:24:17.579 --> 00:24:21.559 fire like I'm in the fire my the front of my 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.640 boot melted But I didn't even care because my 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.680 toes are so cold He I looked at the front of 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.440 my boot and it's all melted up. I'm like I don't 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.660 like I was I was so frozen that I didn't even 00:24:32.890 --> 00:24:37.529 I surprised, Saturday night, my feet could not 00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:39.930 get warm. I took it off and about had my foot 00:24:39.930 --> 00:24:42.170 right on the propane heater. I surprised I didn't 00:24:42.170 --> 00:24:46.170 burn those fucking socks off my foot. Oh, yeah. 00:24:46.569 --> 00:24:52.809 Yeah, I was about ready to go. But I was just 00:24:52.809 --> 00:24:56.109 cold, man. It was a long day. I got back issues. 00:24:56.170 --> 00:24:59.529 So pulling free spool on that winch through like 00:24:59.529 --> 00:25:02.380 two and a half, three feet of snow. Um, a little 00:25:02.380 --> 00:25:05.299 over three foot at some points, like it was just 00:25:05.299 --> 00:25:07.480 killing my back. So my back was already sore. 00:25:07.900 --> 00:25:10.819 I could feel that I tweaked it a little cold. 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:16.380 Um, and my core temp was just, it was just low. 00:25:16.539 --> 00:25:19.940 I could tell I couldn't get warm. Like I was 00:25:19.940 --> 00:25:21.819 warm on the outside, but I could tell my core 00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:25.720 temp wasn't. And so I'm like, screw it. I wasn't 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:28.019 even going to eat anything, but He was eating 00:25:28.019 --> 00:25:29.839 some food and I'm like, yeah, maybe some hot 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:34.460 food to help. And I had a can of red beans and 00:25:34.460 --> 00:25:36.660 rice and some sausage. And I fried the sausage 00:25:36.660 --> 00:25:38.660 up, add the can of red beans and rice and I ate 00:25:38.660 --> 00:25:42.299 that. And fuck, that was good. It's probably 00:25:42.299 --> 00:25:46.019 the best camp meal I've had as of late just because 00:25:46.019 --> 00:25:49.359 of like how much it helped me. I could it's bad. 00:25:49.539 --> 00:25:52.200 You know, like when you drink like hot soup and 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:53.980 you could feel it go down into your stomach. 00:25:54.099 --> 00:25:57.440 Yeah. And that's how it was with that red beads 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.619 and rice. It was boiling a second ago, and I 00:26:00.619 --> 00:26:02.519 put it right in my bowl and started eating it. 00:26:02.539 --> 00:26:05.279 I'm too cold. It's not going to bother me. Yeah. 00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.160 I'm swishing it around, and my mouth is blowing 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.980 out. You can look like a dragon with the cold 00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:14.599 air, and I'm just trying to get it down. And 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:17.759 I felt it go down. threw my throat down into 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.180 my stomach and immediately started getting warmer. 00:26:20.259 --> 00:26:23.200 And I'm like, oh. I'm sitting there moaning while 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:27.339 I'm eating. I'm just like, oh, god. Mitch, you 00:26:27.339 --> 00:26:28.900 want any of this? He's like, I'm good. I'm like, 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:32.740 it's good. And then at some point, it cooled 00:26:32.740 --> 00:26:34.740 down enough to where I could just eat it plainly. 00:26:34.740 --> 00:26:38.019 And I was just mowing down on it. I didn't realize 00:26:38.019 --> 00:26:41.039 it. I hadn't eaten anything all day either. So 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.119 I ate that. I brought some of my tea. uh that 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.079 diet blueberry green tea that I love yeah uh 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:51.920 brought some of that in my Nalgene and drank 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.960 some of that finally the with the wind picking 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:57.819 up and the way that we had it in the snowbank 00:26:57.819 --> 00:27:00.660 the fire started just kicking smoke into our 00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:02.460 faces like crazy and we couldn't get away from 00:27:02.460 --> 00:27:04.960 it so at that point we were just like yep we're 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:09.279 tired let's go So I got into the tent and started 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.059 that long process. Anybody who knows, like you 00:27:12.059 --> 00:27:14.339 were working all day or you're doing recoveries 00:27:14.339 --> 00:27:17.339 and you get sweaty feet or you get wet feet. 00:27:17.700 --> 00:27:19.579 You're always supposed to change your socks and 00:27:19.579 --> 00:27:22.740 their dry socks. So I took my socks off, took 00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:25.460 my pants off. Those were frozen. Still frozen 00:27:25.460 --> 00:27:28.759 at like the ankles down. The fire did dry them 00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:30.799 out from the knees to the ankles, though. So 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:35.000 that was good. And thought all that out. and 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.160 took all those off, changed into some pajamas, 00:27:37.339 --> 00:27:39.980 got into the sleeping bag, and core temp was 00:27:39.980 --> 00:27:43.859 still low. I mean, I was still chilled. The thermometer 00:27:43.859 --> 00:27:47.660 on the top of my tent, it's also like a carbon 00:27:47.660 --> 00:27:51.799 monoxide meter. But that was reading like, it 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.339 was like 45 at first, then it got up to like 00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:57.880 60. And I'm like, dude, 60 should be no problem 00:27:57.880 --> 00:27:59.740 for me. But for some reason, I was still cold. 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:01.420 I'm like, oh, it's probably because it's on the 00:28:01.420 --> 00:28:04.400 top of the tent, like the top area. like down 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:06.640 by the bottom of the tent. It's probably way 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:12.140 colder. And I only had the diesel heater on to 00:28:12.140 --> 00:28:15.339 like five. I was trying to conserve it a little 00:28:15.339 --> 00:28:17.259 bit. I didn't want to go too hot because I didn't 00:28:17.259 --> 00:28:20.160 want to melt the tent. Thankfully, I didn't have 00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.140 any issues with it melting the tent or anything 00:28:22.140 --> 00:28:24.160 with the fabric or anything just being too hot 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.279 because I just had it thrown in through the door 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:31.440 on the one side. So that was... That was cold, 00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:35.319 man. I was freezing. I ended up opening the foot 00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.480 box of my sleeping bag. I have zippers on the 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:40.400 bottom, too, so I could open my foot box if I 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.839 needed to cool my feet down. And I threw the 00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:47.480 pipe in my sleeping bag. And that was fucking 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:52.220 phenomenal. That whole night, I was like, why 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:54.500 can't I sleep like this? I could have put it 00:28:54.500 --> 00:28:58.480 to one and sat there and slept in a comfortable 00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.940 80 degrees. it's like 80 degrees is comfortable 00:29:01.940 --> 00:29:04.180 with me at that when I was as cold as I was. 00:29:05.539 --> 00:29:08.680 And oh, dude, I felt so good. I started to fall 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:10.140 asleep with it in there. But then I was like, 00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:12.160 no, it's going to shut off the diesel heater. 00:29:12.980 --> 00:29:16.339 Because if you're not getting any, if the air 00:29:16.339 --> 00:29:18.079 is not being able to flow through the diesel 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.660 heater, get pushed out, it'll shut it off too. 00:29:20.980 --> 00:29:22.880 So if you're blocking that output, it'll shut 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.680 it off. So I was like, all right. Because I was 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.819 sitting there with my hands like this in a triangle 00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:30.579 to let all the hot air through the sleeping bag. 00:29:31.299 --> 00:29:33.779 And man, dude, I was so comfortable the whole 00:29:33.779 --> 00:29:35.740 time. I was thinking of ways like I was like, 00:29:35.740 --> 00:29:37.440 maybe I should go get some sticks and put them 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.779 in my sleeping bag to make like a tunnel so that 00:29:40.779 --> 00:29:42.619 I could just be heated all night through my sleeping 00:29:42.619 --> 00:29:46.160 bag because it was perfect. Get a piece of PVC 00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.339 and just make an arch so it blows right in your 00:29:48.339 --> 00:29:50.960 bag. Dude, like fishing pole, something bendable 00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:55.299 like that. Oh, God. imagine putting a diesel 00:29:55.299 --> 00:29:59.619 theater through like a a bivy or something oh 00:29:59.619 --> 00:30:03.319 yeah dude I was that was heaven I started falling 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.460 asleep with my hands in a pyramid to keep the 00:30:06.460 --> 00:30:09.700 tunnel and I was like okay so I actually pulled 00:30:09.700 --> 00:30:13.259 the hose in more about two feet into there moved 00:30:13.259 --> 00:30:15.859 my sleeping bag closer or my sleeping pad and 00:30:15.859 --> 00:30:18.000 bag closer to the middle and let it channel through 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.279 the side and kind of laid with my head down towards 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:26.869 that side and I think I got, at the most, probably 00:30:26.869 --> 00:30:30.430 30 minutes of sleep at a time. So concerned with 00:30:30.430 --> 00:30:33.730 the diesel heater shutting off, plus my core 00:30:33.730 --> 00:30:36.990 temp never really recovered. And I was just having 00:30:36.990 --> 00:30:41.710 a hell of a time. Yeah, that was me last week. 00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:45.519 I don't think I actually got any form of sleep 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.640 that first night we were trying. Yeah, it was 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.880 like 30 minutes at the most for me. Yeah, I went 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.400 down inside and fell asleep inside. I'm like, 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.160 I can't do it anymore. Because I rotated in my 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.019 sleeping bag and lost all my temperature I had 00:31:02.019 --> 00:31:07.559 in it. Yeah, I was rotating just to keep my back 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:12.359 warm. So I think. Yeah, it was about 1 .30, because 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:16.460 I took a video of it. 1 .30, I wake up, and it 00:31:16.460 --> 00:31:18.519 somehow got dramatically cooler in my tent. I'm 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.759 like, what the fuck? Did I get another wind gust 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:24.119 that came in? Because the wind was still blowing, 00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:26.740 and it was coming underneath my rain fly and 00:31:26.740 --> 00:31:29.220 just pushing all the hot air out. So I thought 00:31:29.220 --> 00:31:32.200 I was getting one of those. And I go and feel 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.900 my port, and I'm like, oh, fuck, this is cold 00:31:34.900 --> 00:31:37.980 air. What's going on? And I look at my app on 00:31:37.980 --> 00:31:42.619 my phone. And it says diesel. It was like oil 00:31:42.619 --> 00:31:46.720 pump fault. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, 00:31:46.819 --> 00:31:48.660 dude, am I going to freeze to fucking death? 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:50.839 Like I knew I wasn't, but I was just like in 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:55.420 my mind. I'm like, God damn it. So. I got that, 00:31:55.420 --> 00:31:57.920 uh, waited for it to shut off completely and 00:31:57.920 --> 00:31:59.900 just restarted it and it turned right back on, 00:32:00.019 --> 00:32:03.740 started pumping, doing just fine. But after that, 00:32:03.740 --> 00:32:06.279 I was so like worried about it. I barely slept 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:10.559 at all after that either. And. About 6 30 p .m. 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.140 I heard Mitch walking around out there. I could 00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:16.400 hear him starting a fire And I kind of came out 00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.359 like hey, are you up and he's like, yeah, I'm 00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.599 getting up and I'm like, okay I was like Maybe 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.200 I should get up too and I'm sitting there through 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.059 the port through my sleeping bag again. I'm like, 00:32:27.059 --> 00:32:30.119 yeah, this is nice sat there for a little bit 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.279 longer took it back out and then all of a sudden 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.059 a Couple minutes later the diesel heater shut 00:32:35.059 --> 00:32:36.980 off again, and I'm like fuck. Well, I guess I'm 00:32:36.980 --> 00:32:41.869 getting up now So thankfully, I moved the heater 00:32:41.869 --> 00:32:45.490 hose throughout the night, put it in front of 00:32:45.490 --> 00:32:47.869 my shoes to dry my shoes out, put it in my pants 00:32:47.869 --> 00:32:51.630 to dry my pants out. So everything was dry. Why 00:32:51.630 --> 00:32:54.529 did it shut off the second time? I didn't actually 00:32:54.529 --> 00:32:57.289 check. I'm assuming it was low fuel, because 00:32:57.289 --> 00:33:01.549 it was pretty low. But at that point, I was already 00:33:01.549 --> 00:33:03.630 cold and stuff, and I went straight to the fire. 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:09.059 And then Mitch offered. He said his mom's house 00:33:09.059 --> 00:33:11.460 was close by, and that we could chill there for 00:33:11.460 --> 00:33:13.339 a little bit and kind of warm up, get a hot cup 00:33:13.339 --> 00:33:15.779 of coffee. And I'm like, you know what? Fuck 00:33:15.779 --> 00:33:18.819 it. That sounds really good right now. So we 00:33:18.819 --> 00:33:20.759 went over there, got some hot coffee, warmed 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.579 up, and just talked, bullshitted. I talked with 00:33:24.579 --> 00:33:26.940 Mitch a little bit throughout camping and stuff, 00:33:26.940 --> 00:33:28.779 but usually I'm with the family, so I got my 00:33:28.779 --> 00:33:31.819 own thing going on. And so it was nice to just 00:33:31.819 --> 00:33:36.970 kind of talk to him. little bit and we finally 00:33:36.970 --> 00:33:41.069 got our cup of coffee in warmed up and went back 00:33:41.069 --> 00:33:44.529 out packed up camp I told Mitch I said I learned 00:33:44.529 --> 00:33:47.390 what I needed to learn I learned that this type 00:33:47.390 --> 00:33:49.589 of camping would not be sustainable for my family 00:33:49.589 --> 00:33:52.589 and that's what I wanted to learn so you know 00:33:52.589 --> 00:33:56.049 I I said this this would work for me in a pinch 00:33:56.049 --> 00:34:00.430 this tent would not work for my family this the 00:34:00.430 --> 00:34:04.220 setup would not work for us long term, for like 00:34:04.220 --> 00:34:07.400 a weekend. I said, so I got my information. So 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.139 I was like, I'm not interested in staying another 00:34:09.139 --> 00:34:11.380 night. He's like, oh, that's cool. You're like, 00:34:11.500 --> 00:34:14.340 I get it. No problem. And I'm like, cool. So 00:34:14.340 --> 00:34:16.420 we packed up. He's like, well, do you want to 00:34:16.420 --> 00:34:18.519 just go home? I'm like, no, no. We can hang out 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:21.639 if you want. I said, if you want, we could do 00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.739 some trails. He's like, yeah, I'd like to check 00:34:23.739 --> 00:34:26.000 out the high rollaway trail and stuff. I'm like, 00:34:26.099 --> 00:34:29.349 cool. Let's go. So we got packed up, aired up, 00:34:29.590 --> 00:34:31.710 because high rollaway, you said, was plowed. 00:34:32.329 --> 00:34:36.829 It was. It was plowed. It wasn't two and a half, 00:34:36.889 --> 00:34:38.849 three feet of snow. It was like six to eight 00:34:38.849 --> 00:34:42.769 inches of snow with some pack and then another 00:34:42.769 --> 00:34:45.829 three inches of snow. So we got into that, aired 00:34:45.829 --> 00:34:49.329 up, and we were doing fine. We were sitting in 00:34:49.329 --> 00:34:51.969 those ruts that were already in there from another 00:34:51.969 --> 00:34:55.239 car. And they were just pulling us all over those 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.719 fucking ruts. I could see him fucking squiggling 00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.840 around in the ruts as he was going. And I was 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.719 doing the same thing. And then finally we got 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.460 up to an incline. It was probably like a 100 00:35:05.460 --> 00:35:10.739 -yard incline. And it was just like an open field 00:35:10.739 --> 00:35:12.559 area. It was a little bit deeper snow. And you 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.380 could see he made it all the way almost up. And 00:35:15.380 --> 00:35:17.239 then you could just watch the truck go, dum, 00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.869 dum, dum, and sink as he was digging in. He backed 00:35:20.869 --> 00:35:23.329 up, gave a few more tries. And I'm like, you 00:35:23.329 --> 00:35:26.730 know, I don't think I want to do this again. 00:35:27.630 --> 00:35:29.989 He goes, nope, me either. I was like, you ready? 00:35:30.110 --> 00:35:32.110 You want to just turn around? He's like, yeah. 00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:34.289 And then I also was having stomach issues. So 00:35:34.289 --> 00:35:37.269 I'm like, I think I need to turn around, or it's 00:35:37.269 --> 00:35:40.989 going to happen here. So we went to turn around, 00:35:41.010 --> 00:35:43.409 and he got stuck again. I gave him a quick yank 00:35:43.409 --> 00:35:46.630 and pulled him out. And we went back to the general 00:35:46.630 --> 00:35:49.960 store. And I got to use the outdoor bathroom, 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.800 which is great. You guys just brought the diesel 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:55.940 heater? Throwing the diesel heater through the 00:35:55.940 --> 00:35:59.519 door? Yeah, setting up the diesel heater was 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.940 more of a pain to do that for sure. But yeah, 00:36:02.980 --> 00:36:05.019 and so and then I ended up going home a little 00:36:05.019 --> 00:36:07.059 bit after Mike showed up and they went out and 00:36:07.059 --> 00:36:11.400 did some stuff. So that's that's pretty much 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:17.079 how my weekend went. Yeah. Well, do we want to? 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.000 get into the hour. Gavin needs a time out. Yeah. 00:36:22.300 --> 00:36:24.659 Yeah. Let's go to the hour. Alright, we'll talk 00:36:24.659 --> 00:36:26.500 to you guys later. Later.