Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Today is a little
one -hour, I don't even know, Gavin, do you have
a topic? I don't really have one. I have a few.
I want to address a couple things here. Number
one, I want to address our listeners. I need
to ask if anybody else who is an influencer in
this space does the podcasting, what equipment
do you use? And why? If you guys can answer back
on Instagram, send a voicemail. However, I would
like to know what camera equipment you use. Why?
What editing equipment do you prefer? Why? Write
me a paragraph. I don't care. And then I'd like
to know if you have any certain tips or tricks
for getting good video angle that is typically
used in this space. Because I did get a DJI.
what is this a action 5 pro I did some because
most of my content is vertical I did mostly vertical
shots but I do have some horizontal I want to
start putting out some YouTube and I'm just trying
to like I'm trying to see like how a lot of people
are doing it like I know I want to do some POV
I want to do some outside you know like a selfie
stick style Outside of the car, doing some driving.
Those are the two most common that I see other
than having other people like get out, you drive
by, or you putting it on a tripod, you drive
by, get the shot, and then keep going. I want
to try and, and I don't know if I'll be able
to, but I want to try and get it to where I can
get good film content minimally. without having
to not enjoy the overall experience. Because
I think my biggest fear with starting to create
this kind of content is that I'm going to be
so worried about getting the right shot and so
worried about creating content that I'm not actually
enjoying what I'm doing. Um, and, and maybe,
maybe, you know, I, I do thoroughly enjoy creating
the content and taking the video. I just don't
want to get so burnt out on doing the video that,
that it's like a job that I don't like anymore,
you know? So I want, if you can, if anybody listens
to this, it does it. Um, if Benji, I know you've
started doing some videos. If you're listening
on this, if you have any tips, let me know. um
jacob biddle if you have any tips let me know
anybody else who watches us that does this kind
or or can push it out to another creator to maybe
contact us and let me know because um i did some
content today i'm trying to it just wasn't what
i wanted to like i had to edit a lot of it out
and i know you're gonna have to like you get
four hours of video you're gonna get like an
hour 30 minutes to an hour of usable video. Like,
I get that. But it just wasn't, like, what I
wanted. So just tips for that if you can. And
while I'm talking about this, Alex, speaking
of voicemail, did we get any voicemails? You
know? I haven't even checked. That's a very good
thing to look up, I guess. Yeah. Super excited.
I love that segment. That's my favorite segment.
Oh, and welcome to Season 3, 2026. Thanks for
listening to us. Thanks for continuing to deal
with our crap and unprofessionalism, apparently.
So we have a four -second voicemail. Okay. And
the transcript says Overland Park. So I'm just
going to play it and see what it is. You guys
ready? All right, let's hear it. Overland Fart?
I think it's Overland Farts. Yeah. Who is that
from? It's a kid from a number I don't have saved.
So it's not Shane's kid. This is a mystery. It's
not any of mine. Oh, we also have a text message.
Okay. All right. Are you ready? You're going
to read it out? Yeah. Bloomingdale's sale ends
today. Loyalists get a $25 reward. Oh. So we
got a spam text. Man. And Alex even had to blow
the cobwebs off of the voicemail thing. Thank
you to whoever that said Overland farts. Never
thought we'd get to a place where we'd be thanking
someone for that, but here we are. To the kid,
next time you see us, we'd be happy to sign our
autographs on your T -shirt, your hat. It'll
be worth a lot someday. You already know it.
Yeah. Overland farts. What foods do we avoid
eating to stop our overland farts? That's what
I think he's trying to ask. No such thing. No,
you just let it happen. And this is coming from
Alex who brought homemade chili to a overland
wheeling event. And I had a hot dog's worth of
chili and cut myself off. It was good chili.
Really good cheese. It was. But you know what
was really the savior of that day? I didn't mention
it last episode. Me and Alex are sponsored by
Imodium. And I went and got it out of the gas
station. I flashed him the Imodium as I was walking
into my truck. And he goes, oh, yeah, hit me
up with that. So I threw two of them at him.
We got in the truck. We took our Imodium. And
that saved the day because I didn't have to poop
once until we got home. And I guarantee you if
I didn't take that, I probably would have pooped
in the first 30 minutes. Oh, I did poop at O
'Reilly's. Hey, that still counts, though. Like,
you were off of the trail. Yeah. And that's where
all that matters. Buying the Imodium saves you
money down the road because you're not using
TP. And, dude, if you get backed up, like, there's
times where I've overtaken when I've OD'd on
Imodium. And I'm like, oh, my stomach doesn't
feel so good. Because there are parts where,
like, I get an obsessed stomach, and I'm like,
I'm going to take, like, one now. I'll take one
in, like, four hours. Don't do that. take like
one every eight hours so but then my stomach
really hurting because i am not going to the
bathroom at all but it's still better than pooping
so i'll take it so thank you emodium thank you
to the gas stations that sell a six pack for
like eight fucking dollars when you could buy
a whole pill bottle from walmart for less than
that that's bullshit um yes but yeah what do
you expect I know. I know. But that has been
like the most useful tool when going out. So
thank you for the caller for your overland farts.
And there's your tip from the botches crew is
use Imodium, buddy. Use Imodium or wear diapers.
You might be on either one of those. Thank you
to Bloomingdale's for telling us about your sale.
Yeah. Thanks, Bloomingdale's. One last thing
on farts real quick. How has your fart been,
Alex? Friday night and Saturday you were farting
up a storm like the whole day. Remember? Don't
give away my secrets. I was just wondering how
you felt better. Man, you were going at it all
day. Every time I fucking moved. Yeah, what day
was that? Was that the day after the chili fiasco?
I think I was farting a lot too, actually. And
I only had one hot dog's worth. Also, shout out
to Nathan's hot dogs. Those were some good fucking
hot dogs. They are. I've been eating those cheap
$1 hot dogs for months because they're cheap
and the kid loves hot dogs and it's not worth
spending like $13 on a pack of hot dogs because
we could like demolish them in a day. So we've
been buying the cheap stuff, and I took a bite
of those, and I was like, oh, this is heaven.
This is heaven. I don't understand why they're
so expensive. And I found an alternative to hot
dogs, and they're like the $2, $3 smoked sausage.
They're like 12 inches long. They come in a two
-pack. I will cut those in hot dog -style lengths.
I'll cut them into threes on each one. Six hot
dogs, that's enough for our typical family. And
then I'll throw those in a hot dog bun after
I throw them on the grill or over the fire. And
those are better quality. They taste better.
There's more of them. It's like two hot dogs
in one bun. It's the preferred hot dog method.
I will take those smoked sausages and cut them
in thirds and throw them on the grill for a second
so they get warm, and then I will throw some
honey mustard on them, and then boom, it's perfect.
Yep. Honey mustard, clutch. Real mustard, only
for brats. Honey mustard, everything else. I
like real mustard on everything. I like mustard
really good on those. Real mustard, for me...
Only goes with like fried onions on brats or
sauerkraut on brats. And then I think other than
that, we're looking at corn dogs. Corn dogs real
busted all the way. So do you want to hear what
made my chili so delicious? Was it two parts
canned chili? No. Okay. No. So you know how people
will add like water or take the water from the
beans to get like the base of the chili? Yeah.
I drain all of that away, and I use three cans
of IPA. Oh, yeah. I didn't even get a hint of
that, to be honest. Like, it was damn good chili,
don't get me wrong, but it almost tasted like
generic canned chili, but better. Like, it's
hard to explain when I'm trying to explain this.
So, that, I used a different. Because usually
I have in my head what I want, and then I just
go buy a bunch of crap from Walmart and just
kind of throw it together. I never measure it
out. This one, I had found a recipe that sounded
kind of good, so I took their list of ingredients
and then just threw it all together. It's not
as good as my chili normally is, but it was still
pretty damn good. Yeah, it was definitely good,
but it gave me PTSD from... Um, the chili attack
from the couple months ago to last year to where
I bought the Hormel's chili for corn, uh, chili
dogs. And you guys remember that when I was telling
you guys about that, I will never touch Hormel
chili again. I tasted that and I burped and I
was like, Oh man, I get PTSD from this. Like,
Oh man, horrible time. But yes. Chili, very good.
Alex is fully recovered. And mustard. So mustard
is very preferential. You know how just a second
ago I was telling you I was looking for these
pins for my fender flares because I knew I was
going to need some? Yeah. Well, I just can't
find them. Most places I find one pin, and they
want $18 plus $20 shipping for it, right? I just
found someone who's 3D printing them. And that's
the only way to actually get these pins. Like,
Toyota does not have them anymore. Yeah. I'm
not surprised. Yeah. Next topic. I just forgot,
as I said, next topic. But also, I'm really upset
because I talked about the video stuff earlier.
I ended up forgetting my main fucking mount.
for the video at home i blame the kid distracting
me but so i actually had to use like a phone
bipod or a monopod that had like the pull apart
thing to put in the phone i had to use that and
put the camera in that and that was so sketchy
putting it out the window like i know the camera
could take it uh as far as like weather goes
but if it was to fall off and roll under my tire
i i'm not really going to give much credit to
anything um So that really sucked because I was
going to do a lot of like the POV camera work
while I was filming on my phone to get vertical
and horizontal. So thankfully we had Leo. Leo
was a very good cameraman at horizontal video.
And that's unusable for me. So he did take some
vertical and I have used it. 88 % of what he
took was horizontal, and it's unusable in my
current platform. So that sucks. And someone
got video of me driving by too. Truck looked
very cool. I went and checked it out, downloaded
the file. It's in horizontal. I was like, son
of a bitch. So if you're trying to make YouTube,
or not YouTube, Instagram content, you get the
best picture quality because. Everything in Instagram
is pretty much vertical. So anything shot in
horizontal, you would have to crop. And when
you crop it, it gives you like this shitty, shitty
quality. So that's why I kept telling him to
shoot. And he was using his phone and my camera
phone, my spare phone that I use for video, using
both, holding one horizontal, one vertical. But
the cool parts in the video were... I would have
liked to see was looking at the dash of my truck.
So like he wasn't like he was and he was not
supposed to be camera guy. Like I did not put
him on that job. So props to him for just picking
it up and going because he was the whole time
he was taking video here and there. Like I was
like, dude, you can relax like this isn't a job.
You're supposed to come here and see how fun
it is so that I can convince you into buying
a Toyota and coming out with us more. But he
was just like, in his mind, he was work, work,
work, and he was trying to. But Alex got to meet
him for the first time in a couple years. It
had been a while. That wasn't the first time
because I went to high school with Sienna, so
her dad was always kind of around. Yeah. Yeah,
as they should be. Yeah. As opposed to not being
around at all. So, yeah, that was fun. I got
to find a better way. I want to get a drone,
but if anybody has been following the DJI stuff
now, they have been outlawed. And so they will
not be sold into the U .S. anymore. If you have
them, this hasn't been clear. I haven't done
enough research on this, but it's looking like
if you have them, you could still use them. You'll
be grandfathered in. But I don't know that they've
made up their mind on whether they're going to
stop all firmware and stuff updates. So you're,
I don't know. The DJI has also, and I don't care
what anybody says, DJI has come up with an off
-brand. That is much cheaper and pretty much
the same damn thing. Just completely off brand.
So I think they're going to try and sneak their
drones into America using that brand. And I might
get on that train because of how cheap they are.
So only newly announced DJI products are banned.
Okay. So everything else they'll have. Yep. Okay.
That's good for everybody who already has them.
And honestly, if that means we could still get
some of the DJI products that are already out,
I think that'll just influence DJI not to keep
making new products, if that makes sense. They're
just going to keep up with the DJI Air 2 and
just keep that line going because that's a steady
flow. Those are really good drones for catching.
They have the market pretty much cornered in
America. For U .S., like police, for farming,
for overlanding and videos, they have the market
pretty well cornered. So to completely stop them
from any drones hurts America kind of more, in
my opinion, as far as the creators go. I mean,
yeah, it's going to push American drone makers
and stuff. Yeah, I think. I think in the long
term, obviously, it pushes American makers or
other brands from other countries that have access
to do it. There's going to be a short term hurt
with long term gain. Yeah. And that's everything
with all of the, you know, what we're getting
with tariffs and all that. Short term, it fucking
blows. Long term, it's going to be better. Yeah.
I don't know that they do so much harm that I
could justify the short -term hurt that it does
to... And thankfully, what they're doing right
now, it doesn't really create any short -term
harm, really, other than to DJI themselves. But
if they were to completely outlaw the usage,
the... any licensing and firmware updates, and
completely cut all these drones off from any
use, like from the apps, from America at all,
that would hurt a lot of content creators. It
would hurt a lot of farmers. A lot of police
forces use the DJI drones for scouting, for finding
perps, etc. That is actually why I disagree with...
app lock -in drones like dgi because i don't
like when a company could just decide i can't
use my product or government for that matter
yeah um because the u .s can tell me it's illegal
but i can still fly whatever the fuck i want
right as long as the app doesn't limit me from
doing in a way like i feel like the government
is stopping you and telling you no you can't
use this um i think it's kind of an overstep
if there hasn't been any real issues and maybe
I just haven't seen them. Maybe I'm just ignorant
to the actual issues that they're having with
DJI, of them being some kind of spy. I think
it's very likely the 5 % that is being misused
is affecting the other 95 % of users. Yeah, and
to me it doesn't justify the hurt put onto them.
I feel like I can't think of anything from the
top of my head, but I can't think of anything.
like this that has been done that like actually
warrants like that actually makes sense where
you're like yeah like maybe we shouldn't like
fuck we still have tiktok we still have roblox
those have hurt more people than helped uh i
would say so so doing a product that has been
has a wide reputation for being one of the best
products out there Like completely stopping them
for all content creation for police use and all.
The thing is that we actually have a history
of this happening. Not so much with drones per
se, but same kind of thing. The CCP controls
a majority of Niantic. Niantic is the company
that had Pokemon Go, if you aren't aware. It's
now been found that they were using Pokemon Go
to get an accurate. um map of the u .s to be
able to sell to the ccp um so what they were
doing is you know people would go they would
use their phone camera whatever to get their
ai poke or ar pokemon bullshit and then nyan
tech would take that little video to make an
accurate 3d map to then sell to the ccp so the
ccp has the majority of the u .s mapped by nyan
tech in 3d yeah How much of that's genuinely
useful? It's very, because they were actually,
again, this is Niantic, not DGI. So Niantic would
take, like, let's say there was one area of the
map they didn't have very accurate. Like, let's
say near a senator's mansion. They would make
that a hotspot, which they did often. And then
people would go there to get the... the shiny
Pokemon or whatever, so they would always have
accurate depictions of every section of the map
to then sell later. And this happened on military
posts. This happened all over the U .S. Yeah.
No, I could see that part. I just mean, like,
as far as knowing the hot points, satellite imaging
has already kind of... I don't know. Like, you
kind of already know. You can see it from above.
I get that it makes it more in -depth. But Chinese
satellites, I'm sure, have everything already
mapped out. Like, if they really wanted to limit
it, they would make out blackouts for the USA
for any Chinese satellites. They've got inside
photos of buildings. Yeah, and how would you
get inside photos of, like, senators' mansions
and stuff with Pokemon Go? Not so much senators'
mansions, but people are playing Pokemon Go in
their house, dude. Like, they have an accurate
3D map of, like, I think it was 96 % or 97 %
of the U .S. inside buildings and outside. Yeah.
I mean, as far as what they can use for war,
most of that I feel like just doesn't matter.
But, again, you're on a whole different side
of me. Like, I just, like, what the fuck are
you going to, like, whatever. Like, what are
you going to do with it? So to me, it's like
I don't really care. Pokemon Go isn't a moneymaker
or a revenue maker or a necessity in some parts
as like the DJI drones are a revenue maker. People
need them for parts of their content. And just
to push that all aside, a lot of our police force
uses those for the heat -seeking. heat seeking
thermal the thermal optic drones um they use
a lot of our departments use things like that
uh and dji has the best equipment out there the
most user friendly and there's just not a there's
what i can't remember what it's called autotel
or something like that there's like there's only
there's like two or three name big name brand
drone makers there's only a handful of police
departments that are actually using dgi though
uh most of them are using like the fuck what
is the name of the one that we were selling them
from the army most of them are using hand -me
-downs from the army i was gonna say i don't
i i mean i don't know how much that's true anymore
because of the prices they've been able to upgrade
that stuff because a lot of the police footage
now that we watch like the chase cams and stuff,
they have been using DJI drones. So, I mean,
who knows? Only New York uses it. I've got a
list right here. NYPD, California State Police
Department, and Chula Vista Police Department,
wherever that is. And that's about it. Hmm. This
is... It's like I get my information from one
spot and I feel like Alex gets it in a completely
different one. And then I can't go and cross
-reference it. Okay, this is from the... What
website is this? Something .gov. One second.
I'm trying to go through fucking Google's AI
to get this information for you. So I've got
to dive deeper, you know? Yeah, not a huge deal.
I had heard and read up that they were being
used in a lot of the rural police departments
because they were cheaper to buy. And you have
to be careful, especially if you're getting your
information from TikTok. Nope. Because... But
I'm saying you have to be careful because anything
tied to the CCP, they're going to only show you
information that validates them. Right. Yeah.
I wouldn't trust wouldn't trust TikTok for that
commie stuff. Yeah. But yeah. So either way,
even if you were to take them away from those
police departments and force them into going
back into a different style, it's money spent
that doesn't need to be spent. But to me, I don't
get it, the major push for it. Now I'm on Axon
.com, which, again, this is a company that sells
drones to police departments. There are 1 ,400
departments in the U .S. using drones, and almost
all of them are using Axon except for a handful.
Yeah. Well, that's good for Axon. I don't even
know, is Axon the American version? That's the
one specific for police and military. Yeah. It
gives better heat seeking stuff like that than
what... Heat seeking. It gives better heat vision
and stuff than what DJI has. Heat vision. Better
thermals. Thermal optics, yeah. So, yeah, it's
kind of a bummer. And honestly, I hope DJI figures
something out. because i personally don't want
to see i don't know if that i want to wait for
another company to get their stuff around to
where i is now i don't feel like waiting for
that i don't necessarily care about what happens
with dgi or a next company or anything because
again All of them require an app that then can
tell me I can't fly somewhere. Regardless of
whether the government wants me to, I should
have the ability to make my own decisions. Yep.
And with building open source stuff, you have
the ability to have a better device with better
cameras that's upgradable and repairable without
being locked into an app like that. Right. Two
sides of the same coin, man. I like to be able
to buy a well -made or decently made drone that
has the app already built in that is pretty user
-friendly, especially right now because I don't
have a lot of drone experience, so I would need
something that can handle a lot of that for me.
So, I don't know. Consumer -wise, I feel like
I'm more of the consumer end where... Alex is
more of the build -it -yourself end, if that
makes sense, to be away from that kind of thing.
I don't like nannies. Nannies suck. I like to
just have my own stuff and do it my own way.
He just doesn't like Big Brother. I know. That's
really what it is. And I don't know. I feel like
there are some things that we have to just deal
with, right? Is DJI a subscription model? No.
I have multiple DJI products. I don't have to
subscribe to use any of it. So... I don't think
any of theirs... I haven't had to pay for any
of my stuff for DJI other than just buying the...
I meant specifically the drone. Oh. I haven't
heard anything about it, but who knows? I'm sure
if I say no, Alex will say yes. No, there's not
unless you're trying to do mapping with it, which
I 100 % don't think anybody should ever use something
from China to do mapping. Yeah. That wouldn't
be a recommendation for me either, honestly,
but you do you. But that's about it. Yeah. And
then for operations management, you got to...
uh for flight hub but for the most part no there's
not good because that's my other thing i hate
subscriptions subscriptions are stupid yeah yeah
unless it's for an air freshener that gets sent
to my house once a month you know not sponsored
but um but yeah no uh hopefully hopefully that
situation gets figured out um drone drone shots
are absolutely beautiful and it doesn't take
a lot of effort to get really good shots with
them. So whether that's them following you, whether
that's them getting the larger picture of where
you're at, I can't tell you how many times I've
been blown away by a drone shot on the top of,
like, a mountainside or a cliff. It's just a
really cool bird's -eye view, and it's a really
big piece of nowadays overlanding content creation
in general. It's a really big piece. Because
you could just set it and forget it sometimes.
You could just set it to follow, and it'll follow
your vehicle through a path. You could set it
to go around you and get visual around your vehicle.
So there's all sorts of different. This is when
we find out there's actually a little Chinese
boy that's doing all that. They don't actually
use AI. They do a damn good job. Keep it up,
boys. Because there's been a lot of that where,
like, AI chatbots have actually been little Indian
kids sitting in a fucking sweat throne. I've
heard something about that. That's funny. Like,
no wonder they fucking work like shit. They can't
understand you. But it's so crazy. AI is getting
nuts. It is. It's getting harder and harder.
And by the month, it's getting harder and harder
to tell what's real anymore. Hey, sorry, guys.
We're going to get political here for a second.
So if you just skip to... time stamp 49 .15 it's
cracking me up because ai right now is the biggest
producer of greenhouse gases and globe like what
which i don't necessarily believe in global warm
man -made global warming but um it's like the
biggest cause of it and then the left is pushing
it so hard while saying we need greener power
but not allowing nuclear which is just oh it's
hilarious And then to not know the actual damage
throwing an AI data processing center does. Oh,
it's terrible. It's terrible. And they're popping
up all over Michigan because of the amount of
fresh water we have. All over. They've been blocked.
Part of it's because our governor's been begging
them to come here. Yeah, because it's all revenue
that she wants. It's all about money. It's not
about... conserving what we have she'll if it
was all about money which it is for her and if
she had enough time she'd strip this whole fucking
state to a concrete slab and to for the listeners
it's not about money for the state it's about
money for governor whitmer yeah it's about more
income because we've seen our money go absolutely
fucking nowhere so i mean we've followed money
trails from uh bills that she pushed to her pocket
so I'm pretty sure I can't remember what is exactly
some of the solar or some of the mining centers.
I think it's some of the solar fields that they
want to put in are linked directly to the secretary
of state's husband that owns the company or is
the chairman or something like that. Correct.
And they're getting deals. to put those in in
Michigan and pushing those in in Michigan. Really
odd if you really just want to follow the money.
And that took me four seconds to look up, and
Alex already had them looked up. So when I found
out, I started looking up. He called me just
a bullshit like we do. And I'm like, hey, have
you heard about this? And he goes, oh, yeah.
And I'm like, yeah, okay. So we started bullshitting
about that for half an hour or so. Me and Alex
just bullshit randomly. He, like, calls me up,
and he's like, hey, what are you doing? Do you
see this bullshit? Yeah. Yep, I've seen it. So,
yeah, the money trail is ridiculous, and not
to mention that it's happening in every state.
It's happening in every state, and we're seeing
this right now with the Somali daycares. That's
fucking crazy. Have you seen anything about these?
Dude, we are so off of off -road now. Listeners,
this might be one to skip. You're half an hour
in, and I'm telling you that. All right, so the
Somali daycares are off. Also, you want to enlighten
me because I have no idea what you guys are talking
about with daycares. I have not heard anything
about these yet. These Somali daycares, oh, my
God. Okay, so here's what's happening, right?
A bunch of Somalis came over, and now it's getting
linked back to Somali government, by the way.
Just a little tidbit. So they're coming over.
They're opening up. Daycare centers, which might
even just be their house, and they're taking
state funds to run these daycare centers, but
there's no kids. Oh, gotcha. And not only, so
the government of, what is it, Minnesota? Yes.
They get money for every asylum person from Somalia
that they get. So they get that money to them.
They make these Somali. mostly Somali -ran or
all Somali -ran daycares. They get funded for
that. The more kids, the better. So their private
investigator that came in and cracked the whole
fucking case and came in and said, you know,
hey, where are these kids? You guys have $2 .6
million in funding for this daycare or these
string of daycares by that name, whatever it
is, and I don't see a single fucking kid in this
daycare. On paper, it's the learning center.
The actual signs are the leering center. Yeah.
Can't even spell them right. So they're saying
they have all these kids. They're like, hey,
can we come in here? Can we see if there are
even any kids in here? No, no, no. They're locking
the doors. They don't want any attention. There
is even one clip where they said they don't even
have kids. They didn't say it verbatim, but he
asked them, hey, do you even have kids? And they
said, no. And the thing is, he came in and he's
like, hey, I've got my son, little Johnny. I
really need a daycare for him to go to. You know,
do you have a pamphlet or something? No, no,
no, no. Would he have friends to play with here?
No, no, no, no. Like, yeah, dude. And then there's
have been people that have gone to Somali houses
like in, you know, nice neighborhoods that are
listed as a. uh daycare center they go in there
and then the they ask like you know is this a
daycare center oh no no no we we don't do we
don't do daycare yeah like so it's bad yeah so
trump is doing like a full investigation now
on this and usually you could go hey you know
maybe that's just a scam maybe it is going somewhere
except if that was the case why would all of
a sudden Mr. Waltz, stop announcing his reelection
for governor. He stepped down. Yeah. 100%. He's
not running. So if that is a true indicator,
this dude is good. We're going to see some cool
stuff here soon. And then also on that same topic,
all the liberal like. The big liberal names are
now starting GoFundMes to fund these daycare
centers because they might be losing their federal
funding. Yeah. Yep. Which, since we're going
to bring this, and we could chapter this, so
let's do five to eight more minutes of politics
because I want to talk about one more thing since
we're on politics. The liberal cries for Venezuela.
have been fucking hilarious. I have, like, eight
Venezuelan friends who are cheering. They're
like, and I'm not saying America is innocent.
I'm not saying that they're doing it for the
good of Venezuela. Oh, no, we're in it for the
oil. They smell oil, and we heard the bald eagles
screech. Like, we get it. We know, and trust
me, Venezuelans know that, America's not there
to liberate, and that's it. So with that underway
and so that little caveat there, the eight Venezuelan
friends that I have don't give a shit. That's
how bad that is. David's like, I'm not racist.
I have Venezuelan friends. Yes, I have friends
that are Venezuelan, but they've never been there.
I actually play a game where there's a bunch
of them down there, and they're ecstatic, dude.
They're like, finally. Yeah. This guy appointed
himself. He was not even supposed to be there.
A lot of people don't support him. They were
ecstatic that he's gone. They were cheering in
the streets. They were happy. The biggest issue
that they have right now is that they can't travel
by airport right now. Sorry. We had to take some
precautions. But from what I see, there weren't
any casualties, civilian casualties, right? 80.
Was there 80? Okay. Hey, we're sorry, civilians.
But, you know, shit happens. Oh, I sent that
to Mark. Supposedly, they bombed a previous dictator's
grave. Good, good, good. Just for no reason.
And when I tell you Trump has had some of the...
Look, I don't love Trump. I'm not a MAGA. But
when I say he's had some of the most successful
operations... 100%. Go ahead. And not only that,
have they been some of the more badass operations?
Like, he went into another country... Seal Team
6, and I know he didn't use Seal Team 6, but
I'm using this as, like, the general. Yeah. He
sealed Team 6 into this guy's fucking house,
stole him out of his sleep in the dead of night,
and came back with a helicopter that got a few
gunshots in it. That was it. This is after. This
is after the dude's, like... Do it, America.
Come for me. I have a top -notch air superiority
system to keep you at bay. The one thing Trump
is really good at is calling your fucking bluff.
The last thing a third -world country should
be doing is talking shit. And that's what they
get. I mean, I really do think that, like, if
you're like a 5 -year -old and you're talking
shit to a 13 -year -old, And then they come in
and whoop your ass. Who are you blaming? You
shouldn't have been talking shit. From a world
stage standpoint, right, I think taking Venezuela
is the best thing we could have done. Because
that now cuts off oil to China and Russia, who
have been using Venezuela's massive oil reserve.
Which, that's kind of a big deal. And it's going
to kind of take the wind out of... russia sales
here going into their constant conflict with
ukraine right um and honestly i would be happy
to see a setup shop and just take care of Venezuela
as if they were a 51st state. Right. And you
know what? The best things that I've seen are
the videos of these guys going on a marketplace,
changing their locations to Venezuela, and low
-balling the fuck out of Venezuela, guys. I've
been seeing this a lot, especially with someone
getting hit with storms. Yeah, they get down
to Venezuela, and they're looking, and there's
like a... 2018 F -250, which, why is that in
Venezuela? But anyway, the 2018 F -250, and they're
like, $1 ,500, I'll meet you at the border. Cash,
$1 ,500, USD. And I'm like, I got to do the translation.
That might be a deal. It's a deal. Yeah. Well,
for anyone, from anyone down there, it's a deal.
If it wasn't for import and issues like that.
But if they become a 51st state, we don't have
to worry about that. But if we kind of set up,
even if we set up a really good trade deal with
Venezuela for oil, it's going to absolutely tank
the oil prices, which is going to draw gas prices
down to like $1, $1 .50. Dude, if gases went
down to $1 .50, that is an overlander's biggest
expense, other than parts. But for the general,
like, if I could go to fucking Colorado and back
for $400 or $500. Yeah. Because it would usually
take, it would probably take about $1 ,000 to
get to Colorado and close to back. So if I can
get there for half of that. Oh, yeah. So the
economy booms. Gas prices go down. Like, dude.
Economy booms. Inflation's gone. It also now
gives us a product that we can undercut Saudi
for, which tensions with Saudi Arabia are fucking
crazy. So if we can undercut Saudi Arabia and
start selling oil cheaper than them, that now
gives a bigger money intake to the U .S., which
helps the economy even more. From a world stage
standpoint, it makes sense for us to take over
Venezuela. As greedy as this sounds, yes. Dude,
100 percent. I'm not saying that this is like
the nice thing to do, but this is it makes sense.
Right. Logical. Yes. And honestly, it helps Venezuela,
too, because they're constantly dealing with
dictators. So if we can go in there, make them
I want to see them a state. I don't want to see
them a territory like. I'm trying to think of
one. Guam, right? I don't want to see them as
a territory. I'd like to see Venezuela as a state
because then they help make decisions on who's
president, what laws are passed. Yeah. What would
be really nice to see is if we can do a state
to where Venezuela can retain and keep their
nationality, their practices, keep their individuality,
but to be governed. by some, like, a democracy.
But the issue is, like, Native Hawaiians have
a huge issue with the U .S. because of how the
U .S. came in and pretty much, not that they,
you know what, they whitewashed them. Set up
shop. Yeah, they set up shop and pushed everyone
else. Yeah, and they don't like that. Of course,
nobody does. But, like, I'd like for it to be
a win -win for Venezuela. I want them to feel...
that they can be themselves, that we're not pushing
them out. But I want them to have a healthy government
and a healthy economy. I want to see them jump
out of second or third world. And honestly, I
want that for the rest of South America as well.
But let's be realistic that that won't happen.
And if we could set up a good trade deal with
them, if we could set up a good social deal with
them, That's a win -win for everybody. The other
thing is, if we do claim them as a 51st state,
that gives us military control over South America,
which is now we're keeping ourselves safe bottom
to top on our side of the world, right? We've
got South America on lock. We've got, obviously,
North America's on lock. Who's our biggest competitor?
Fucking Canada. Fuck you. They got what, like
eight people? Fuck you. Sorry. So I love our
Canadians, but we do. We do. But like, seriously,
we we have a military superiority right now in
North America. If we can set up something in
Venezuela based on location right next to Brazil
where it's at, we'd have military superiority
over all of South America. And that also squeezes
Mexico to help them stop allowing. All the drugs
that they've transported. Yeah, that's what I
was going to say. It's a push in the right direction
to get rid of these cartels because they have
been let go for too long. They've become too
integral to the governments. And now I don't
think the governments can function without the
cartels' money flowing into them, into the pockets
of these people. I don't think that they know
how to run anymore without it. I think it would
be really cool, but we're getting in on 10 minutes
of politics, so any last words? No, that's it.
I'm very happy. Oh, I'll get a last word. Very
happy for Venezuela that their dictator is gone.
Yes. And I hope that we can set up a trade deal
and social deal that keeps them safe from becoming
part of the U .S. Secretly, I just want them
to become part of the U .S., but don't tell anyone.
Yeah. That's the logical side of me, right? I'm
very logical when it comes to government, not
so much, like, feel -goody. Yeah. But... I'd
like the U .S. to... Like, U .S. has had, obviously,
a spotty history with displacing the residents,
the prior residents. Like, we all know. Like,
we're not dumb. We're not saying that we haven't.
But I would like us to not do that. And I would
like them to feel like themselves and to be their
own thing, to govern their own selves once they
get set up. That's what the feel -good side of
me wants. But the logical side of me is like,
man, that's such a good thing to control. Yeah,
absolutely. Yeah. So moving on. All right. That's
the end of our political rant. Mark, when are
you going to get new tires? What's your next
tire? I think I'm going to go Gladiator X -Comp,
and then we're going to mess around putting his
35s onto my truck here. Gladiator X -Comps? Is
that what you said? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like what's
on Devin's little truck. What brand is that?
Is that Gladiator or X -Comp? Gladiator. Oh,
okay. Gladiator. I'm not familiar with... I've
heard of X -Comp, but I'm not familiar with Gladiator.
Is that like an off -brand, or is it like a...
No? Not really. Is it like Kenda? Like they started
like an off brand and now they're kind of mainstream.
Yeah, kind of. Not as mainstream as Kenda. The
big thing with the Gladiator brand is the X -Comp
MT because it's one of the most aggressive mud
tires you can buy and street drive. Yeah. The
AT, which we tried first on Devin's F -150, they're
an amazing tire, dude. He's got probably 60 ,000
miles on him now, and they still have good tread,
barely worn. Sweet. Amazing traction in every
situation. They were on a two -wheel drive truck,
and he was getting around in the winter without
weight in the bed. Right. That's good. Yeah.
They're a very good tire, and they're relatively
cheap. We've had them now. Devin's had them on
three trucks, the same set that he just rotates
through. I've had them on, my sister had them
on her Jeep, and they were great on that. And
then, yeah, they're a good tire. Sweet. Are you
changing your wheel setup, or are you staying
the same and just going bigger tires? I haven't
quite decided. I'm thinking of potentially going
to a different wheel setup because mines aren't
really looking rough, especially now there's
rust forming on the inside of one of them. Yeah,
what the hell? That's weird. I've never seen
that. What are those, visions? Yes. Aren't these
really good? I'm not impressed. I think they're
good if you don't use them like I do. That's
true. I would say Mark does send it more without
a care. Okay, so Mark sends it without having
the long arm suspension or long travel like Alex.
He sends it more. with a closer -to -stock truck.
So I feel like he does more abuse to his vehicle.
So back when my truck was stock and Mark had
his black truck, we did that first trip where
we went up and around Lake Michigan, up through
Keweenaw and all that. And this was right, like,
Mark's... put his for this trip yeah literally
like a week before it literally just got in just
in time we got back from that trip and they were
already fucking destroyed and we were doing the
same stuff my rrw's just held on and the visions
just full of nicks full of being chewed up i
mean it was yeah pretty much instant maybe they're
and then now it's like social overlanding not
the real and now the whole in you know they've
got those fake bead locks on them That whole
section in there has formed rust where it's actually
pitting it. It's not just that you can paint
it. It needs wire wheeled out and then painted.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I still paint it. You
can't even remove the lip either. Yeah. The lips.
Yeah. It's, I'm not impressed. I'm really not.
Kind of a bummer. So moving on from the wheels,
let's say for all the listeners, Riggs and Cafe.
When are we starting that? Do we have an official
date yet? I don't think we do. You know what?
This is something we actually need to talk about.
Courts and Calf. Yeah, Courts and Calf. I'll
never remember. But I just figured I'd bring
it up. We're getting close to the hour, so maybe
we can get a date figured out. I would like to
see it end of January. I would be down for that
last weekend of January, so the 31st. Okay. Do
we have a location that we... Why don't we just
do that place in White Cloud? I've had that out.
It's a large area. It's right next to the lake.
There's trails up and down it, so if we want
to do some trails, we could do some trails. How
far off a main road is that spot? Not very. Because
part of my thing is, to the spot, I'm trying
to limit trail usage. Just because we're pulling
in a high amount of vehicles, so I don't want
a chance damaging the trail. So I'm trying to
do... I guess we should scout it out. Yeah, we
should scout it out. Yeah, we should do that.
I have been... Saying that. Well, we've been
busy. Let's see. Oh, why am I in New Jersey?
Oh, yeah, someone was telling me I need to come
wheeling in New Jersey with him. Why? There's,
like, no wheeling there. Well, there is a little
bit in that area, but he says there's some cool
stuff up there, and I'm like, yeah, maybe someday
when I need to drive all the way to New Jersey
for a weekend or something. You just don't hear
about let's go wheeling in New Jersey. Well,
that's the thing. I think I would like to open
up that. You don't see that a lot in the Northeast
as much, and I think that would be a really cool
tour if I was to ever get money to explore the
unexplored in that kind of way. Like, to go and
drive around, talk to local people that are in
the area and go, hey, what are your favorite
spots? You know, there are mountain ranges in
that area. There are, you know, you have Maine,
which as a coastal state, I'm sure it's beautiful.
I'm sure there's some places that are really
nice to go to. I'd love to do that northeast
area. Maine, I could see having some wheeling.
I actually want to go, I'm pretty sure it's Maine.
Where's Acadia at? No idea. I would assume New
Hampshire and Vermont might be kind of iffy of
finding trails. I mean, I know you got quads.
Acadia is in Maine, and that's where I want to
go. I'm not going to lie to you, and I'm sorry,
listeners, for this. I thought Maine was completely
separated. Like, in my head, I thought it was
separated, like ocean around it. no and it's
not at all i'm like looking at it i'm like what
the fuck new brunswick is like the canadian border
is on the whole other side like in my head where
new brunswick is is ocean you thought it was
a pencil or a peninsula yeah just for that other
part like i knew the backside touched But, like,
that was, like, it was kind of like, what the
hell? Like, I'm looking at it, and I'm like,
wait, we could go trailing in New Brunswick?
That's cool. There are mountains in there. There's
a big river. And there are, like, there are trails
peppered all the way through that around, like,
there's, like, called Billy Brown Mountain, Howard
Peak, Upper Stone Ridge, Winter Run, like. I
really want to go to the Acadia National Park.
There's one in Minnesota that I would like to
do, but there's Baxter's Park. There's not really
any off -roading in Acadia. It's just somewhere
I've always wanted to go. Yeah. The Golden Road.
They have a Golden Road. Oh, man, that's beautiful.
Hey, Gavin. You talk about the main on the map
for how you perceived it reminds me of the people
that perceived Alaska as a giant Island. Yeah.
I think when I was younger, I thought that, but
I just, I don't know why. Like when I, when I
think of the U S map, I thought main had water
all around the top of it. But I, I want to say
that the only reason is because when I think
of the U S map, it doesn't include any other
maps, right? Yeah. It's just the U S. So I, It's
not that I obviously think that there's no Canada
attached to us. It's just I thought that the
way that the U .S. map with just U .S. in it,
that Maine was just kind of out on its own. Because
I remember visiting the sea, the ocean, in Maine,
and just for some reason I thought we were on
the tip part of it. But now I'm not so sure anymore.
And just think, when we take over Venezuela,
people are going to think Venezuela is a floating
highland. Yeah, right. It's just going to be
down at the bottom. It's going to be next. It's
just off the coast of Florida. What do you mean?
We're going to get Gulf of America over there
by Venezuela now. Oh, God. I didn't even think
about that. Hold up. What? Yeah, the Gulf of
America touches Venezuela. It really would be
the Gulf of America then. Maybe. I don't know.
I don't even know the map. No. Oh, no, I guess
it doesn't. That would be the Mediterranean.
Or the Caribbean. Caribbean. Sorry. Hey, see,
Americans love the Caribbeans anyway, so we're
already in that area a ton. I mean, we got, what,
stuff in Cuba. We have Puerto Rico. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. No, it'll be cool. But I would like to
do the Northeast and do like a – there's a –
the guy that I told you about that had the Subaru
Baja and the FJ just like I did, he lives in
that Northeast area, and he's got some beautiful
views up there. So I'd love to do that area and
just document it well because I don't know any
– I'm going to look tonight on YouTube, but I
don't know any mainstream overlanders that have
really tried to branch out over there. Maybe
because there's nothing that crazy to see, but
I just looked at a one trail near a mountainside
and it had like big cliff faces off the side
of the trail that were like deep, like 30, 40,
50 feet. So, I mean, there's views. I mean, there's
views everywhere. I just like to be able to get
out and do them. Right. So fun facts. Did you
realize that the Appalachian mountains? And the
Scottish Highlands are the same mountain range?
No. So the Scottish Highlands used to be connected
at the top of the Appalachian Mountains. And
then when Pangaea broke apart, it dragged that
section of mountains up to Scotland. So Scotland
should be America. Exactly. We should just take
over. And actually, the Scottish and Irish immigrants
mostly settled in the Appalachian Mountains because
it reminded them of home. And a lot of the stuff
that you think of as Appalachian is Scottish
or Irish. Like bluegrass is actually a Scottish
thing. Yeah, it's super cool, super interesting,
fun info to learn. And they settled there because
it reminded them of home. Because it was the
same mountain range. Yeah, it's like the, what
is it, the Finnish or Swedish? I can't remember
the big population that moved into the northern
part of the UP where the coal mining or the copper
mining was. It's like a Finnish, Dutch. Well,
there's a couple different ones from that area,
though. Yeah. But a lot of those guys moved over
there, and a lot of them still retain a lot of
the heritage. They still even talk Sweden, Swedish.
Who is it that have all the saunas? Is that Sweden?
I think it's Sweden. Yeah. Because there's a
bunch of them up there that still have houses
all over that still have saunas up there, and
they use them frequently. So that's really cool.
Fun fact, but right before we get off here, the
basalt in Lake Superior is like the oldest exposed
rock, and the mountains. in the up lake superior
area are like the oldest mountains in the world
one of them and the basalt that's pretty oldest
so that is pretty cool too yeah so this basalt
you see is some of the oldest that has been exposed
to the world so it's pretty cool you got anything
to add alex before we head out uh geography is
fun yeah sorry about the politics but we did
keep it under like 20 minutes So in the grand
scheme of things, I think we did pretty good.
Thanks for listening to Botches. We'll try to
stay off the politics a little more. We should
just start a second show that is politics at
this point. We just need a 30 -minute segment
where we can rant. And if they want to listen,
they can listen. If they don't, they don't. I
kind of want to make a politics show. I wish
I had time for it. Yeah, that's the thing is
I don't have time for a whole other one, but
I would sit for 30 minutes and do a rant where
we just bullshit about the politics and then
move on. So I don't know. We'll see. And there
might be something in the future. Leave a voicemail
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