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to do with the outdoors. I think we're going
to change that for season three. Two, three,
four. Yeah, I think as long as it is, it's just
better. Like if you're coming in on season two
and you want to hear the full thing, just go
back to season one. Or season three, I guess
Yeah, I've said it through one and two it's time
to just cut her down cut her down I'm with that.
So this is a wrap. This should be a wrap. It's
just to me and Gavin rap. There's no mark here.
Yeah He's off at a work Christmas party boring
hopefully getting hammered. Yeah. Yeah that That
would be interesting to see. Well, I don't know
if he's at the work Christmas party right now,
or if he's at the work pre -Christmas party that
his boss was hosting. What do you got to drink
today? I got a Dr. Pecker. I got a Sprite Cherry
Lime. That scared me. I thought I was about to
blow up because it opened. Also, Remember how
I was just telling you I got this free chair,
and this is my first time sitting at my desk
with it? Yeah. I hate it. I'm gonna get my own
chair back. Nice. It's constantly trying to push
me away. Like, I'm just rolling away from you
this whole time. That's a good rollies. Those
are the ones that you have to throw clothes behind
them so you don't roll anywhere. It's the same
rollies, because I took the... I buy special
rollies and then put them on my chairs. Oh, my
Lord. Because if I damage my floors, I have to
pay to get them resurfaced, and I don't want
to do that. The plastic rollers won't do it.
No, I use they're like roller skate wheels. Got
to be custom. They also roll nicely in carpet.
But anyways, so I put those on it, but this chair
is too light, so it just doesn't. it just wants
to roll all the time i really like mine i bought
it for like what is it like 15 bucks from a guy
down the road Clorox wiped the shit out of it
because it's leather but it's in good condition
it's really comfy it's the comfiest office chair
i've ever had so my uh my old one was way more
comfy than this one but it had a rip in one of
the arms For me playing with it while I play
games. Yep But I'll probably go back to that
one. That's better than this one. Yeah. All right,
so We did actually do something we went out and
We went wheeling for a little bit a couple hours.
He did that was like not just that last Saturday
This has been a week. This has been a week, dude.
Yeah, so I think that was the earliest thing
that we did though. So we went out and went out
probably, you know, five, 10 minutes away. We
had some local trails that we know pretty much
like the back of our hand right now. And I've
only been, I've only been wheeling them since
I was 10 years old. Right. So then I've been
wheeling them for probably six years or more.
Yeah. So yeah. So yeah, we knew them very well
and we just wanted to get out and do something,
go out and drive together. So we went out, did
that and Played in some powder. If you guys follow
us on Instagram, you saw the reels. We did a
bunch of reels from it. We got some video of
us driving through the powder. It was a fucking
blast. It was really fun. There's only like two
-ish feet of snow, but it was still worth it.
Yeah, it was a blast. So we were driving through
that. I think we only out there for like four
hours, if that. It was a lot of fun though. I
accidentally muted myself. Yeah, we were out
there for about four hours. Oh, and then we had
to stop at my house to get some snacks for Jax.
Yeah. And then Alex's four -wheel drive kept
coming in and out, so he was having issues with
that. It wasn't coming in and out. It just wasn't
going in. Right. But then it eventually did,
and you had it. Yep. But when we stopped at my
house, I took him through the field to get to
our driveway, and all of a sudden his four -wheel
drive stopped working right there. I love that.
No, I turned it on to go through there. I didn't
have it on before that. No, like, when you went
into it, you said it wasn't working again. Like,
when we stopped. Oh, yeah. It had never started
working. Oh, well, that was, yeah, that was what
I was getting at. But so we went and did that,
and then we went and did, you know, the whole
prairie thing. We stopped for about five, 10
minutes and had a coffee break where I had him
try that Barebox Brews coffee who reached out
to us and... That was fun. I give them like,
on a scale of one to ten, I give them like a
four and a half for flavor and an eight for convenience.
He's like a really big coffee snob, so that's
really good. And I'm not sponsored by them or
anything, they just sent it to me to try, but
I give them like an eight for flavor. because
I actually liked the taste of this coffee. Like
I don't typically like black coffee all that
much, but I actually didn't mind this. Um, and
then for convenience, it's very convenient. You
can't really get more convenient than that other
than instant coffee. And it just kind of tastes
like ass. So it was better than instant coffee,
which I give a one for flavor. Yeah. Yeah. So
it was, it was good. Like I said, we, and I think
the other part of it was too, is like, you're
supposed to wait a while. And we only waited
like five minutes before he took his first drink.
So, but he did try it later and he said it got
better, stronger. So, um, yeah, I went. The problem
was it's like they use the wrong roast for what
they wanted. So by the time that it was strong
enough to be good, it almost tasted burnt, which
didn't make sense because obviously we're not.
on a heat source in this situation, but I like,
I like the idea and they can only go up from
where they're at. Yeah. I mean, and to the burnt
taste, I don't have refined taste buds like Mr.
Alex over here. So I definitely did not taste
any of the burnt, but I can't taste like I can't
taste notes and like whiskey, like, Oh, do you
taint like taint a taste of hibiscus. And there's
like a little bit of woody lemon. And I'm like,
what? I taste whiskey. I can only do that with
coffee. But that's because I drink quite a bit
of coffee. Yeah. And maybe that's because I don't
drink quite a bit of whiskey. And that's why
I can't. That kind of gets us on to our next
thing. I spent all week in the hospital. That
was fun. I mean, not for me. I was fine. Maybe
that was the third. Maybe that was the happens
in threes third. So, we've had a hell of a week.
That would have been the third. That's what I'm
saying, though. That was the one, two, three.
So, we've had a hell of a week. So, Alex spent
the weekend, you said, or the week in the hospital.
Yep. Monday through Wednesday. Kalen had some
issues, and she needed emergency -ish surgery.
The largest kidney stone any of the nurses we
talked to had ever seen. Yeah. But they wouldn't
let us keep it. Those freaking... I wanted to
put it in my rock collection. Yeah, that would
have been hilarious. Going to, like, Michigan
rock college and be like, I found this on the
beach. Do you know what this is? The doctor's
like, no, we got to cut it up and send it in
for testing. And I was like, oh, come on, man.
Just cut it, just shave a bit off. Let me keep
the rest. I want to put it in my polisher. Yeah,
so they... They did end up having to, they actually
went in with the laser, busted it up and then
went in with these teeny tiny little prongs that
are microscopic and then pulled each individual
component out. Yeah. Wow. It was pretty cool.
Yeah. I wish I could have watched the surgery,
but you know, I know I'm like that too, but yeah,
what a pain. And then, so he had that happen.
And then what was it? Probably a day later, my
cat and the family cat passed away. And that
was our wobbly cat, the one that had wobbly cat
syndrome. And she was a good cat, but she had
been struggling these past couple months. We'd
been fighting with her UTI. And then... Yeah,
wobbly cats get UTIs really easy. Yeah. And she
was already like six years old, so she was like...
She's not old old, but... She is for a wobbly
cat. For a wobbly cat, she was, yeah. I mean...
And it was just getting, she was just, she stopped
eating. She was having issues and we got to the
point to where like we couldn't even feed her.
So it sucked, but it was kind of one of those
things where we knew it was just kind of time
for her to go. And if it didn't happen within
that day, we were going to take her. Yeah. You
know, to have it happen anyway. So losing a pet
is hard, man. Yeah. And unfortunately for me
and Sienna, like we knew it was coming. So it
was a lot easier. They did not have the same
for Rebecca and Ed. We're really sorry to hear
and sorry to report that they lost their camp
dog Zeke. And that is really unfortunate. I might
cry. He was like nine years old, border collie.
And ever since I started camping with Ed and
Rebecca, they had Zeke. Zeke has been my best
friend for a long time. Yeah, he was a great
dog. And to tell you how good of a dog he was,
he pissed on my tent once and I didn't care.
Because he's such a good dog. Did he really?
Yeah. Yeah. Right on the outside rain fly in
my tent. Like right near the door opening. And
I didn't even care. I was just like, it's just
Zeke, dude. Dude, that's like, taking Wrangler
places, that's my biggest fear. Is that he's
just going to piss on someone's tent. Yeah, that
is. But otherwise, Zeke, he was an explorer.
He was really, he was like super well -mannered
for a camp dog, uh, kinda. Like in other ways,
like he would run around a lot. He was always
like, yeah, he was always trying to get into
stuff, but he also was like really good at riding
in the car. He was really good at sitting in
the car and like sleeping. Always, always smiling.
Happiest dog in the world. Oh, he's having fun.
And, and rightfully so. He was always having
a blast. I think he, the last time he went camping
with him. In the UP, he came back on the beach,
random, and just had a skull on his mouth. Like,
no one knew where he got it. It was like a raccoon
or something. Just came out of nowhere with it.
So that was very sad. They, they did lose Zeke
and it was really sudden. So heartfelt prayers
out to, uh, Ed and Rebecca, but you know, they.
Yeah. He'd been, he'd been sick for like three
or four days leading up to it. And he was on
his way to get surgery when he died. Yeah. So
yeah, it sucks. Sucks a bunch. Thankfully, they
still have, you know, their other camp buddy
and Leo or Lilo. Yeah, no. Yeah. I was more talking
about Kai, but yes, those ones, those ones don't
make great camp buddies from what I hear. So
no, many offices are terrible camp buddies. But
it was just so funny because I thought his name
was Leo. Gavin thought his name was Lilo. So,
I finally asked Ed, and Ed's like, well, I guess
his name is Leo, but his old owners called him
Lilo. And that's all I've ever heard Rebecca
call him is Lilo. So, like, when he kept saying
Leo, I'm like, no, that's not it. He's like,
yeah, it is. I'm pretty sure. I'm like, no, no,
it's not. I'm telling you. I know. To make it
worse, Ed is... He's from Mexico and has kind
of a Mexican accent. So even when he says Lilo,
it sounds kind of like Leo Yeah, cuz cuz Leo
is my dad's my father -in -law's name So when
he kept saying Leo, I'm like, no, it's not Leo
I would remember that if the dog was named Leo
cuz I'd be like that's my dad's name like I'm
like so like we went back and forth and Finally
Mark shut us up and we stopped it and then we
found the truth. So But now it's still hilarious,
dude. Oh my god Yeah, no, I didn't what else
cuz when I first when I first met Leo Lila, whatever
they hadn't had him very long So I'm pretty sure
they're still called him Leo at that time Maybe
that's why because I was okay. I went camping
with him a little more recently I think because
I had been out with them more I think at that
point because you were always you were working
on your truck pretty much a lot of the summer
for those bigger trips I've been out with them
like eight or nine times. Because they were,
we camped with them a lot when we first started
doing MST stuff before you got into MST. I think
we did six trips with them then. Yeah, I was
talking about like this last summer though. Yeah,
no, I'm saying like, just overall, we've been
with them a lot and always called him Leo. I
was so confused when you said Lilo. I'm pretty
sure you just heard him wrong. Well, he was probably
already drunk when he was yelling it. So I mean
he was usually pretty drunk. Yeah, it's pretty
accurate Yeah, and Ed was just being nice to
Alex. Anyway, it was definitely no No, I the
way I asked him like hey, what's your other dog's
name and then he responded with that. Mm -hmm
I didn't yeah, it was prompted in a text message
before but he really had it's a conspiracy Nobody
believe it. Yeah, so Will say driving the forerunner
to Grand Rapids all week because I was driving
back and forth so I could work too That thing
is great on the road and terrible. I mean absolutely
terrible in parking garages, dude Yeah, yeah,
I had like one one inch but before the height
marker. Yep Yeah, that's a that's even like a
three inch lift with our SUVs. Our SUVs are a
little taller but It's like with all the shit
on top of our SUVs, it's like, I can't even,
like I took Sienna to the mall to get books and
I had to drop her off in the front of the mall
and drive around because I couldn't even fit
in the parking garage and all the other parking
spots outside were full around Barnes and Noble.
So I couldn't, I just had to like, and I was
fine with that because I didn't want to go in
the bookstore anyway. It's also interesting cuz
like your truck has a really tall body right
and mine has a really short body So I never thought
that that forerunner would be that you know that
height. Yeah, I have a tall body in a short lift
It's it's like a I have a tall torso short legs
and you have long legs and a short torso Just
basically have us. I don't even have that much
lift. I have like two and a half inches I don't
know. I feel like that helps give you more, because
you're still taller than someone typically. I
don't know. I don't know if it's the long travel
that makes it appear to have more. I know travel
is more down, but still. It's probably because
I cut my fenders. Yeah, it just makes you look
taller, though. Yeah. And then I forgot. On our
way back, When we parked for the coffee, I looked
up, saw my wee boost. The old, good old wee boost.
I had finally hit a tree branch. I think it was
down pine because I remember hitting a tree branch
down pine and it was like, oh, that was loud.
But finally, after a year, year and a half or
so of pretty much leaving it in the same point,
and you could adjust it. I was just lazy and
didn't want to. It finally got to a point to
where it hit a tree branch. And I think it was
because it was, what was it, like eight degrees?
10 degrees? Not even. Three or four. Yeah. Especially
with wind chill. I think that plastic just got
so cold. And then when it smacked that tree branch
going like 10, 15 mile an hour or whatever, that
was just spelled the end for the wee boost. It
still works. But the plastic housing around it
was bad. I just planned to duct tape it, honestly.
and call it a day, like get some black gorilla
tape and just run it around there a bunch. But
I made a post about it and was talking to WeBoost
and they, you know, I was just kind of basically,
I was, you know, chatting it up saying like,
hey man, WeBoost made a great product. Like it
withstood some bullshit from me and it turned
out really well. So I am, and WeBoost then reached
out to me and was like, hey, you know, we want
to replace this for you. I was like, sweet, you
know? So I'll give it to them on that, because
WeBoost definitely didn't have to. That was my
user error. And it was. Like, everybody knows
that on my antenna, I don't ever put it down,
even when people tell me to. It's always sticking
straight up in the air. And it's even got, like,
a little bit of a bend now, because it's hit
so many things. And honestly, Half of me wanted
to see how tough it was and I and I got to a
point to where I was just so confident with it
being like Just tougher than shit that I was
just like whatever. I'm just gonna go through
it It'll be fine. So I learned its limits and
in the future I'll probably put it down another
peg because it is adjustable The only reason
I haven't lately is because the adjuster on it
has been frozen And I haven't been able to break
it free enough to do that. So now you're going
to have to. Yeah, I already tried earlier. It
wasn't it wasn't moving. I got the thing to pull
out and I just couldn't get like the teeth to
pull to separate so that it would go down. So
I'll figure it out once they send me a new one.
So but that was really nice. We boost. And I
just want to give a little shout out to we boost
for doing that, because they did not have to.
And this isn't the first time that I've had customer
experience with WeBoost and they've done really
well. I had my main, what would you call that?
Motherboard? The box? Control box? Yeah, the
main control box on it had burnt out for one
reason or another. Yeah. And I contacted them
and Gavin cuts Gavin cuts two wires accidentally
shorts it out No, it's one reason or another
Well, I was trying to say that because I was
gonna tell share this with them And I didn't
really want them to know but now I'm not so I'm
not gonna let them know this but no, so I was
I was trying to hardwire the wee boost in and
I thought it was just the positive and the negative
but when I cut it it was like It had like a fiber
coating with it. And it was not the antenna.
It was not the antenna. It had a bunch of like
all these, it was like the outside of it was
a bunch of like uncoated wire. And then it had
like a coating. Then the inside had little wires
in it. And I was like, nope, not fixing that.
I tried to even separate the two, the one from
the inside, from the outside. And I tried hooking
it up to see if it would turn on. And that's
when it fried it. So yeah, I mean, I reached
out to them. And I explained to them that I fried
it. And maybe I wasn't 100 % forthcoming on how
I did it. But I told them that I did. And they
were like, yeah, sure. Send us the old box, and
we'll send you a new one. So either way, however
it happened, They took care of me. And honestly,
for a company that was, I guess, $550 product.
So at this point, they've replaced my whole product.
And it's all been user error. They haven't done
anything. Their product has been rock solid.
It's been me neglecting it that has caused these
issues. At least you're honest about it. Yeah.
It was my fault for trying to cut it and splice
it. I didn't look to see what the power cord,
what could have been made out of. That was on
me. And then I toasted it. I even took it apart
and saw that all these little connections on
the little motherboard on it were all melted
and burnt. And then, yeah, the antenna, 100 %
me. And the funny thing is, it still works. So
even if I did want to just keep running it, I
could. So shout out to them. They're pretty cool.
Maybe I'll say something later when on my own
podcast or something, just snip them in on it
just to give them a shout out. That way there's
nothing incriminating that makes me look bad.
Statue of limitations has passed on that one.
I don't know. I'm pretty sure that's like seven
years. Not in this case. In this case, it's like
a month. We'll see. Maybe I'll clue them in a
little later. I also got my nephew's new 23 -0
swag today. Oh, by the way, listeners, it's a
Friday that we're recording this on. The whole
hospital thing really pushed back our recording
schedule. Yeah, we even missed out on interviewing
a special guest, which we won't say who, because
you'll hear about it later. We are going to interview
them soon. Probably season two stuff. Yeah. want
to get someone else into oh oh and I wanted to
add this to sorry about that that Alex gifted
me Merry Christmas to me a diesel heater because
I'm always talking about it and he finally just
got tired of me talking about it and ordered
me one so that's really what it was yeah I could
tell but so I got one now I brought my battery
pack in I just need to go take it to get some
diesel and I'm going to try it out with the battery
pack and see if I can get it to run off of that.
And then, if I can, I'm going to let it run for
as long as I can and test it out and see how
long it takes for it to use up everything on
the battery pack. That should be my first test
with it to decide what I need to get next as
far as a battery. Oh, I also haven't talked about
my alternator endeavor. Man, so much stuff happens.
So much stuff. So then on our way back from the
hospital after her surgery, so it's Wednesday
at like Midnight one o 'clock. I don't even remember
I went to the gas station pulled in went and
got some stuff Came out started the truck up
and it was just squealing dude So shut it off
Went to start again wouldn't start so I put the
jump back on it jumped it drove it home with
it squealing Excuse me pop the hood And my alternator
was not turning at all. So the next day I went
and bought a Electric ratchet because I'm sick
and tired of having to turn wrenches and I don't
have to anymore So I bought that and then took
it all apart and when I grabbed that that pulley
on that alternator I couldn't get it to turn
at all by hand. It was completely rock -solid.
I've never seen one fail that spectacularly But
It's also a two -year -old alternator that's
been underwater three or four times and has had
a bad bearing for six months or so. And that
is not the first alternator in the botch group
this week to go out. No, that was the first one
to go out. Right, but it was not the only one.
The other one also ended up not being bad. It
was user error. Yeah. He ended up just changing
the bolt or the nut on his bolt and then it was
fine Hmm. Yeah, so a mark hat was having some
issues as well. So Yeah, I'm keeping an eye on
my my alternator because things have been happening
in threes. I'm a believer in the threes That's
why I was smart about Marks tensioner went out
and to get to his tensioner. He had to take his
AC off and his alternator In the process of putting
the alternator back on, he hooked up the positive
cable to the wrong bolt. Oh, I didn't know that.
And that's why it wasn't charging. So he hooked
it up properly, and then it worked. That would
make sense then. Yep. Yeah, so fun stuff there.
We had all sorts of stuff happen. Oh, and my
buddy got stuck in the driveway. So I had to
go pull him out. He's off a 96 and he's got a
half mile long driveway. It's like an easement.
And his car got stuck while his ex's car got
stuck. And this is his ex -wife coming to see
the kids. So he asked me to come by because he's
got a Buick Lesaber and that couldn't do it.
And his ram charger was down. So I went over
there. And I got the kinetic strap out and he's
like, are you sure that's going to do it? And
I'm like, yeah. It was kind of small. I'm like,
this, this is not small for a kinetic strap.
This is good. Like, you know, way more than 40
,000 pounds, buddy. Yeah. You're supposed to,
with kinetic straps, you're supposed to kind
of match them to the size of vehicle that you're
pulling out. Right. So you were probably way
over what you needed for that car, which was
probably banking a hell inside that car. Yeah,
it was for him. It was funny. So I guess that
comes in later. So I was like, yes, this will
be plenty fine. I said, this is rated for like
40 ,000 pounds. And then I showed him. He goes,
well, do you have like a steel, what do they
call those, like the clevis? I can't remember
what they're called right now. D -ring? Yeah,
whatever. Yeah, D -ring. There's another name
for them. Oh, shackle, like hard shackle. And
I was like, no, I mean, I do. I said, but I got
a soft shackle here, and these are easier to
put on. So we put it on his toe point and started
towing the car. And I was going slow. I was like,
I was going slow. And he goes, yeah, thanks,
man. Yeah, I cool, went about my way. And then
he messaged me later and was trying to joke around
about it. But he was like, dude, you were fucking
yanking me all over the fucking, all over the.
the driveway and this and that he's like dude
I was I was swinging left to right on either
side and it didn't move you at all and I just
I was like I just felt like a kite and I'm like
I didn't feel shit I was like he's like you didn't
honk you didn't tell me to slow down like I was
like I didn't hear nothing from you and he goes
I was just happy you're pulling me out because
damn dude like that was crazy then I look back
at my footage I'm like thing you weren't like
I don't know what you're talking about like because
I have the wolf box I'm sure it felt like it
in the cab though. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like,
that probably should have been a winch situation.
No, cause I had to pull them a whole half mile.
Oh Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. He couldn't like, once
he got out of that, he still needed it the rest
of the way. So I had to pull them. I could have
used my three inch strap, but I honestly thought
that would be more aggressive with no give. So
I just went with that. It was the easiest thing.
I like, I had it right on my top box. So. No
But yeah, he got to learn about a bit about kinetic
ropes because he's never seen one before and
That was fun and then my same was a saved no
next day propane trunk got stuck in our driveway
and I offered to pull him out. He said no for
liability issues, so instead I went and blocked
the road for him so his other guy could at least
pull him out not worried about getting hit so
Yeah, lots of stuff happened this week, dude
Now and we had like three days of like 40 to
50 degree weather So all like two feet of snow
has been melting. It's been I just Shit, dude
Nasty then as I say then it got cold again. So
all that slush frozen to ice Yeah, my the end
of my driveway is dangerous. I slid into the
ditch this morning. I mean, this is not the first
time either I just put it in a four wheel and
back the dude. My driveway sucks. It's like it's
pretty narrow and on either side is just a deep
ditch. Yours is better than mine, though. So
mine is really, really hard trying to get out
in the morning on a shitty snow day. So it is
it is bad, though. So in our driveway, we don't
plow it. So like. all that crispy like mushed
ice is now like Sienna's car was trying to drive
through it. And it's just so you could feel like
going in a rut, out a rut and breaking ice through
the whole thing. And I'm like, oh, but it's OK.
We all have all wheel drive cars, except for
her dad, because his rental while his car is
getting fixed for the I don't know how many a
time he's got a two wheel drive Malibu. We'll
just say don't buy GM cars. Yeah. Yeah, stay
away from these fucking Buick. What are they,
Encore's? Oh, and it's not just the Encore. Mini
SUVs. Those specific engines have a recall on
them. I think it's the same one. Isn't the Encore
the same as an Equinox? Yeah, I think so. Engine
-wise, I think they're the same engine. Dude,
they've all got the same engine, including the
Traverse, and they're all the same. That's the
second engine he's gone through in less than
a month. It took him a month to fix the one engine.
He had it for two and a half weeks, and the engine
went out again. So yeah, we stay away from Buicks
now. It does look like the Encore is part of
the Equinox family. Yeah. Just a garbage vehicle,
dude. He doesn't even have 160 ,000 miles on
it yet. He still owes like nine grand. That's
just how modern GM is. Anything after like 2006
is like that with GM. Yeah. And my buddies. transmission
went out on his um what's the terrain version
the chevy terrain the traverse yeah yeah his
transmission went out on the fucking traverse
and he's like well i mean it lasted like a hundred
thousand miles so and i'm like dude that's garbage
i said you should never have to even think about
your transmission going out until like like two
50, 300 ,000 miles. Like typically the transmissions
last way longer than an engine does. I was like,
he's like, well, yeah. I'm like, no, there's
no yes or kind ofs about it. Like your transmission
- GM makes a shitty vehicle. What sucks is people
expect that now. Like him expecting that and
going, well, it lasted 100 ,000 miles. That's
nothing. Yeah. That is nothing, dude. Then you
see these like - Toyota's, some of the Hondas
even, like they're getting up into like 300,
four or five, 600 mile, like thousand mile range.
Eight, 900 ,000 mile range. Yeah. I mean, that's
the Honda thing. Toyota's are about... Sorry.
Yeah. I mean, there's plenty of Toyotas getting
up into like million mile and Hondas are getting
up there too. Like a lot of, a lot of reliable
Hondas. I think, honestly, I think there's a
lot more reliable engines than there are bodies.
in the Rust Belt. For sure. Yeah, like my Subaru
engine was at 275 ,000 miles and it was still
running, but my whole subframe rotted out in
half. So. I blew the power stroke up at at least
480 ,000 miles and the body was rotted the fuck
out at that point. I had to use two by fours
to level it. Yeah, it's the body thing in the
Rust Belt. That's horrible. And maybe we'll do
a small section in one of our upcoming episodes
on how we do rust prevention. That might be a
good one. Because we're at the end of our wrap.
We should. But he just keeps patching it. Once
it starts, it's over. Yeah, ask his frame. All
right. Well, we'll see you guys in a little bit.
Yeah, bye. Poor guy.