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Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk

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about everything from gear reviews to trail stories,

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tent camping to rock landing, and all things

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to do with the outdoors. I think we're going

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to roast Gavin's FJ in a little while, but first

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we want to introduce a new segment. So all of

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our Overland Off -Road podcast friends do a voicemail

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segment where listeners call in to the number

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that... They give and then they leave a voicemail

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and then they play it on the episode. We respond

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to it. So I've reached out to a couple of our

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friends to get some voicemails for us to play

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here today. But in the future, we'll leave a

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phone number, which is 231 -335 -7415. If you

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call that number, you can leave a voicemail.

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Anything you want, podcast related. Truck related,

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I don't give a damn. Just don't be corny. Games.

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Games. I don't care. I really don't care. Whatever.

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The Snail Trail guys, they've got people calling

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for each other and trying to set up trips, but

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they're broken up by like three months because

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they're so far behind on voicemails. The first

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one we've got here is from Bob Smith in Oregon.

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Benji, we know it's you because it gives us your

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color ID, so we know it's from Midwest Adventure

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Outfitters. Bob Smith. But let's see what our

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good friend Bob Smith has for us today. If I

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can find Google Voice for you. Hopefully we'll

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get some from our favorite listeners like Chibs

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McDunkin and people like that. Yeah. All right,

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here we go. I'll play some Bob Smith voicemail

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for you. Yo, this is Bob Smith from Oregon. Oh,

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that didn't work. One second. This is going to

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be a learning experience, guys. Okay, ready?

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Yo, this is Bob Smith from Oregon. I just wanted

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to call in and tell you guys what a fantastic

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job you're doing, and I'm a weekly listener.

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And even on the days you don't have podcasts,

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I'm still listening. Keep up the good work. And,

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yeah, keep on trucking. Dude, Benji's a fucking

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hoot. Yeah. He's great. Man, I've been seeing

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Benji a lot more. Not because I'm stalking him

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or anything, but I have a sweet spot for Benji

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and Baker, and they're together a little bit

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more, and I'm seeing them in videos. And it's

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funny because, like, I don't know Benji. Like,

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I've never met Benji. He shook his hand. But,

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like, I feel like I kind of know him. So I'm

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like, that's my friend Benji. So, like, when

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we're watching YouTube and my father -in -law

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is watching all the Overland videos with me,

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and he's like. And he critiques all the Overlanders,

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too. He's like, this guy just kind of sounds

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like a pussy. I'm not going to name which Overlander

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because he's not well -known, but he backs away

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from easy things. And his dad's just like, he's

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kind of a pussy. But then any time we get on

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to a Baker Overland that features Benji, or even

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Benji's got a cool video of, too, I'll be like,

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look, look. I said, there's Benji. I know that

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guy. And, like, it's not that I like friends'

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friends, but it's like I'm acquaintance. I kind

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of know them. Like, we've talked. We've done

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the interview. I was like, so it's exciting every

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time. And, of course, Benji's rig is really cool.

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So it's really cool to see him travel along.

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And, of course, Baker's, like, super cool. So

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I'm always saying, like, hey, I kind of know

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Baker. I kind of know that guy, too. I don't,

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but. I can describe Benji in two words. Tall.

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goofy literally he could he kind of looks like

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goofy from no like disney yeah no tall and goofy

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yeah he's he's a cool dude though i i love yeah

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i love watching these shows and seeing these

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people that i'm acquainted with that i know of

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or that i have spoken with before i like seeing

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these guys uh talk it's kind of like uh tyler

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with independence overland like i've talked to

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him in private message a couple times it's just

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cool to like it's weird like you ever like it's

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cool to meet your heroes and then see them like

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those guys are kind of like the heroes of the

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scene like they do the things that i want to

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do and they have the things that i would like

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to have eventually so it is in that kind of sense

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and i bet you gavin you ready for this There

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are people that think the same thing about us

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because they only see the good side. Yeah. I

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think that's why our podcast is cool, too, because

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we're not so structured to have like, what would

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you call that? Like a script. We're not like

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scripted. We talk about what we want. Is anyone

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scripted? I think there's guidelines, you know

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what I mean? And people don't have ADHD. So like

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they stick to the guidelines. I don't know. Snail

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trail. Always off topic. Yeah. They have ADHD.

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Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. I think, I think

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the best podcast talkers are typically the people

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that have high functioning ADHD. Yeah. So I think

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that's why it works out so well. Yeah, I don't

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know, because, like, Snail Trail's like that.

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Newfound is like that. Benji's all over the fucking

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place, dude. Yeah. Oh, while we're on this topic,

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before we play the next voicemail, I just want

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to say a real sad, regrettable moment. Charlie

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has quit doing Outskirts Overland and quit paying

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for hosting because he is not happy with the

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direction that Overlanding Space is going. Yeah.

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I agree with him. but I'm not ready to quit our

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podcast because I love you guys. Yeah. I think

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I agree to points, but I don't agree with where

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our country is going, but I still love our country.

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You know what I mean? So like, I don't think

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that I would necessarily quit the podcasting

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for that. Let me, let me correct that real quick.

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It isn't that he's not happy with where overlanding

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is going. He's not happy with what he had to

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do to be successful in the overland. media it

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may it went against what he holds valuable um

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that makes more sense it wasn't overlanding as

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a whole i i said that incorrectly i knew how

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i meant it i don't mean to mix up charlie's words

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because he's a fantastic person yeah um but it's

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sad because charlie's someone who he's done this

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for so long he's probably done this longer than

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think of a youtuber think of a podcast or charlie's

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done it longer um and it's sad to lose an easy

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access to the knowledge that that man holds because

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he knows a lot about this this hobby um but yeah

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you know times change yeah trees die new ones

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emerge um yep you know it's the way of the world

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and you know it's like your friends like you

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know sometimes uh sometimes i pass early and

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then you meet new friends and it's just it is

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what it is and i can't say i don't um i don't

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understand it like because i do in a way like

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i think we all kind of get it like there have

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been times where we're just tired too we're like

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like this the whole the whole podcasting and

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everything around it is very like minimal reward

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um medium to high effort um if we if we keep

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at it like we get nothing out of this like yeah

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in fact we may be in yeah it cost me like 30

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bucks a month for this damn thing yeah um and

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it's 30 bucks a month for me too on my other

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podcast which i stopped paying um but anyway

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uh so you know it's we pay for that you know

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when we do our group things like rigs and coffee

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uh but cords of kef obviously not rigs of coffee

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but when we do that we have to pay in for the

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the food and supplies and stuff and um you know

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we don't we don't get any kickback and that can

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be hard in times where we're already strapped

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for cash And especially in times where we're

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busy, like Alex does a good job. Like we switched

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to Tuesdays for recording because he's got stuff

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going on Wednesdays now. And it's just like,

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we get, we got to make it work where we can.

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And sometimes the stress isn't worth it. Like,

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um, some of the other guys that I noticed that,

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you know, I, I kept up to date with their, um,

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recordings and stuff. And I hadn't, um, hadn't

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really checked on him much lately. Just been

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like, checking out other podcasters but average

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overlanders um those guys stopped too i don't

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know i don't know what uh what happened but it

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just uh you know i talked to them a little bit

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they said they just kind of you know the the

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podcasting thing is it's a lot and it's it's

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not one of those things that is easy to keep

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going especially when you do it as long as some

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of us have done and others have done Yeah. I

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guess that's a good point to say that episode

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100 will air on January 1st. No, I think I'm

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going to air episode 100 on December 31st, and

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then episode 101 on January 1st. Which will be

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the start of our new season. Our third season,

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yep. Third season. So that's, yeah, 101 episodes.

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and uh we're still going we still bullshit we

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still got plenty to talk about and we still have

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plenty of plans to keep going so we don't plan

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on going anywhere and uh episode 100 is already

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recorded and it's a banger so i've been holding

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on to this episode for like two rainy two months

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i've been holding on to this episode so some

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of the information's a little out of date but

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it's a freaking banger Yeah. It's going to be

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exciting. It's cool to see that we've been...

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It's cool to see the connections we've made in

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the... Now, we've only been doing this for a

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year. This is the second year. So... Yeah, you're

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in November. This will be our second year. Yeah.

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So it's cool to see the connections we've made

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in such a short time. And, you know, we don't

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make monetarily. We don't make it much at all.

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We're in a negative. But we make a lot of cool

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connections with really cool people. Like, we've

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long -time followers of Benji, but we were able

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to connect through this podcast with Benji, with...

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Jimmy and Tyler. Jimmy and Tyler. Yep. Cindy

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Pope. You know, there's a lot that we got pretty

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early on, actually, that... we were able to connect

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with and you know we've tried connecting with

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some of the other other bigger names in here

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but uh you know these guys get pretty busy and

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i'm sure their requests are through the roof

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so um well on that note let's move on to our

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second voicemail we have three of them by the

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way yeah so here's number two this is from jimmy

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snail trail what up botches off road How is it

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going? Welcome to the land of voicemails. This

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is Jimmy Jett from Snail Trail 4x4 and I hope

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you guys are all doing well out there and hopefully

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staying warm during these cold months. Hey, I

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was just calling in because I saw and heard you

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guys had a voicemail show so I figured, or a

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segment I guess, I figured I would call and say

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hi. Plus, you know, maybe I'm going to start

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doing the Alex where I'll call in weekly and

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just do my promotions about the Snail Trail 4x4

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podcast and stuff like that. But I do have a

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question for you guys. I was curious. So a while

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ago we talked with Alex about, I think it's called

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Drumming Island, Drum Something Island, and some

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land use. I'm curious if there's an update on

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that. So, yeah, let me know. All right. You guys

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have a wonderful one, and don't forget. Keep

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crawling. Love that. Oh, man. This... It's a

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good one, because we did. We talked about it,

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you know, when the whole Marblehead thing was

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going on. Well, I think we've kind of updated

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a little as it went on. We've basically lost

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the land use war in Drummond Island. Yeah. The

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Drummond Island Tourism Association, DITA, has...

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basically taken over the Drummond Island Off

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-Road Club and neutered them. They just do what

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they want. They're headed by a guy who rents

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side -by -sides, and he wants to make the trails

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more accessible for side -by -sides so that they

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can make more money. I don't understand. I don't

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know if they're paying the DNR, the regional

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DNR guy off. I don't know. I don't know how...

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Public land can be taken and turned into a, almost

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a solo use trail at that point. It kills me because

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so, you know, Drummond Island is like the pinnacle

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of off -roading in Michigan. We don't have a

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lot. So when we're seeing something that actually

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matters get destroyed like that, it fucking kills

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me, dude. If you want every type of off -roading,

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I mean, really, Drummond Island's probably one

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of the best spots for that in the Michigan area,

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like tri -state area. Well, not every type, because

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Drummond Island, you get mud and rock. Yeah,

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I mean, like, you can get just about every terrain.

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Like, in most parts of Michigan, you either get

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mud or you get rock. Or mud or sand. We don't

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have a lot of rock. We don't have a lot of rock.

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So mud, sand, rock. It's the three, the Holy

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Trinity. It's not common. Wait, what about water?

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I guess that would be paired with mud, right?

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Can't have mud without water. I guess, yeah.

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But... Yeah, it's... You know, it really... It

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pains me to see Roman Island turn into what it

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is. It just... It was such a beautiful, special

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place. And you've still got places to rock crawl.

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I mean, you've still got Moose Nemesis, which

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is still probably the most challenging obstacle

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on the entire island. I broke a tie rod there.

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I turtled. Mark turtled. I broke a tie rod trying

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to pull Mark off of his turtle. I have not gone.

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Every time the drumming part comes up, it's like...

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I'm out of money or I'm already somewhere else.

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So it's one of those kind of things. It's like

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beginning of the year for the most part when

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sometimes that pops up. So it's like beginning

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of the summer, I should say, not beginning of

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the year, beginning of the summer where everyone's

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like getting off of school and stuff. We'll plan

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a botches Drummond Island trip in like September

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or October. Yeah, I think we're in talks with

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other people. joining up for that one if i'm

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correct uh probably like early september would

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be preferred uh it gives us a little bit of the

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fall colors um doing it in the middle of summer

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absolutely fucking sucks because it's a cloud

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of bugs the entire time yeah yeah i wouldn't

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mind doing drum and cooler yeah cooler weather

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yeah only uh only downside is when you get stuck

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you have to go into the cold mud But other than

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that, it's better than the mosquitoes. Yeah.

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The mosquitoes were so bad. We went in July.

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That was, oh, my God. Like, we had to bug bomb

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our canopy because it just collected bugs. Yeah.

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Thankfully, I haven't hit any spots this year

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where bugs were, like, so bad that I was like,

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I need to leave. Or I want to leave. Kentucky?

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Kentucky and Drummond Island were the only two

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we had this year that were rough. I want to do

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Kentucky a different... If we do it this coming

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year, different month. Doing it in June was...

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And with a lot less people. I wouldn't want to

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do that as an MSD trip. Actually, I'm kind of

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at the point of... Out -of -state trips, I wouldn't

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want to do with, like, MST because I want to

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see more and do more. I don't necessarily want

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to socialize on those trips. So keeping those

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groups small would be better. And it's not saying

00:18:01.849 --> 00:18:05.950
that MST trips are bad. What Derek and Yamber

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do to put on a great, you know, trip, they put

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a lot of fucking work into that. And the trips

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are great. um just if i'm taking the time out

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of my day to go to a different state i want to

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do i want it to be less structured and a lot

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more yeah i mean done i've i've run across that

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too to where like i'm starting to get the experience

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to where i feel comfortable going out of groups

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and exploring and and doing that so i mean i've

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done that a little bit this year too so we did

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the west up exploration trip with mst um we've

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done a couple couple of trips with them and it's

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just to the point to where like okay yep i kind

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of have the idea um okay this is what you guys

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gonna do and it's not like they make you feel

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guilty or anything like they don't they're like

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hey if you want to do your own thing go ahead

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like so but the problem the problem with leatherwood

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was there were so many people and we only had

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like a handful of trails that really wanted to

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get done and everyone wanted those same handful

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so you were running into these massive groups

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that were trail clogs. They might be doing the

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trail backwards and not able to get through it.

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That did happen. I do plan. I would really, really,

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really like to go to Kentucky and do the Daniel

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Boone Kentucky Byway. So I'd love to do the Ozarks

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in that area. And I would like to. I think. I'd

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love to do Land Between the Lakes. Be intriguing

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to go to. I would love to do Land Between the

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Lakes. Oh. Tennessee? Tennessee and Kentucky

00:19:43.609 --> 00:19:45.710
is literally the border between Tennessee and

00:19:45.710 --> 00:19:47.410
Kentucky. I have to look that up. Yep. And it

00:19:47.410 --> 00:19:50.009
is, oh, it's fucking pretty. And I also like

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to do the... Especially after hearing some stories

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about it. I'd also like to do the, what is it,

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the flat tops in, like, what is it, South Dakota,

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North Dakota, wherever they're. That's where

00:20:02.089 --> 00:20:04.109
my baby turkeys that are coming at 3 a .m. are

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coming from. So I'd like to go do that, too,

00:20:05.430 --> 00:20:08.130
because that's kind of closer. It's west. I've

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never been farther west than Wisconsin, so it

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would be a really cool trip. It's not super far.

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I don't know if we'd go through the bottom of

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Michigan or the top. Maybe the top just to go

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through it. We did top to bottom. Yeah, that

00:20:31.430 --> 00:20:34.269
makes sense. Where are you going exactly? I'd

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like to go to the... Wisconsin. North Dakota.

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Oh, you said go through Wisconsin. I thought

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you were saying you wanted to drive Wisconsin.

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I'm like, well, we did north and south, but I

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see what you're saying now. I think south underneath

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Wisconsin is quicker than heading northward.

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I've always... I don't know. I'd have to look.

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I think from Grand Rapids, I think it's longer,

00:21:01.579 --> 00:21:06.980
but I can't remember. It's not much. Because

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it's almost 10 hours just straight to the peninsula,

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the Keenewa Peninsula. I said it wrong, I know.

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We're so far off from our voicemail. We should

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play the last one real quick. This one is from

00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:29.539
Benji, but it's the same caller as our friend

00:21:29.539 --> 00:21:34.750
Bob Smith. So take that as you will. I'm not

00:21:34.750 --> 00:21:36.910
saying that Bob Smith is Benji, but I'm definitely

00:21:36.910 --> 00:21:40.869
saying that. There we go. Hey, guys. Benji here

00:21:40.869 --> 00:21:42.869
with Midwest Venture Outfitters slash Newfound

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Overland. Hopefully you guys are doing well and

00:21:44.970 --> 00:21:48.009
staying warm. Just wanted to call and test out

00:21:48.009 --> 00:21:50.210
this voicemail. Pretty cool segment. Hopefully

00:21:50.210 --> 00:21:52.230
you guys do some good stuff with it and have

00:21:52.230 --> 00:21:54.609
fun. Keep up the good work. Keep all the shows

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coming. Keep all the good content coming. And,

00:21:57.410 --> 00:21:59.130
yeah, we'll see you on the flip -flop. Hopefully

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we can make it up your guys' way. Hopefully this

00:22:02.809 --> 00:22:04.690
summer. I don't want to say we're going to, but

00:22:04.690 --> 00:22:07.390
you know how things get. We'd like to. That's

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what I'll say. So guys, have a killer day. And,

00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:11.259
yeah, keep them up. See you later, guys. That

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is what I'm waiting for. I'm waiting for a Baker

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Overland featuring Benji featuring whoever else

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gets to go. I am praying for that. I commented

00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:25.779
on Baker Overland's one of his newest videos

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or Facebook posts, and I'm like, please come

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to Michigan. Please. I would love to spend some

00:22:35.700 --> 00:22:39.660
time with Caleb up here. I think that he would

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really enjoy a lot of what the UPS to offer.

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It's not the Ozarks, but that's part of exploration.

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It's a whole. Yeah. And you know what? I, I wonder

00:22:48.740 --> 00:22:52.920
if, and if Benji, if you're listening and Baker,

00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.920
if you, if you happen to listen, I can't remember

00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:01.039
his name from Ozark overland adventures. I watch

00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:02.259
them all the time. I don't remember why I can't

00:23:02.259 --> 00:23:06.819
remember his name right now, but he did a. He

00:23:06.819 --> 00:23:09.579
did some trails and stuff in the UP, and he might

00:23:09.579 --> 00:23:13.559
be a good person to talk to as far as if you

00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:15.779
wanted to organize something. It might be cool

00:23:15.779 --> 00:23:18.940
to have him come back or check some of the things

00:23:18.940 --> 00:23:23.359
out that he might have missed. As native Michiganders,

00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:25.599
he did miss a couple of things. He did hit the

00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.500
basics in the Keweenaw area, like Gay Beach and

00:23:29.500 --> 00:23:35.039
stuff. But it would just be cool. It'd just be

00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:38.259
cool to get some guys out here. I don't think

00:23:38.259 --> 00:23:40.519
Michigan gets as much publicity as it should.

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Now, it's not like crazy hard stuff here, but,

00:23:44.019 --> 00:23:48.200
you know, from Paradise. That's the guy with

00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:50.000
purple and blue hair, right? I'm, like, trying

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.180
to remember. Fuck, what is his name? And I watch

00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:58.000
his shit all the time. By the way, Tyler, if

00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:02.779
he ever hears this, his new trail hunter is fucking

00:24:02.779 --> 00:24:07.539
sick. oh he he he took the box off and has had

00:24:07.539 --> 00:24:12.420
a whole custom uh like cab put on and it's so

00:24:12.420 --> 00:24:15.240
nice it's beautiful i do have a soft spot for

00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.119
the blue fj but i could definitely see where

00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:22.319
you're at with that thing that's cool do you

00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.660
guys uh you you obviously follow flex rocks and

00:24:25.660 --> 00:24:29.579
rollovers uh even if i think they're a little

00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:32.500
I don't know. I don't love some of what they

00:24:32.500 --> 00:24:36.640
do on trail, but, you know, that's not here or

00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.279
there. For the most part, it's a great channel.

00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:44.299
They just released 24 Hell and Back, 35s or less.

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Oh, okay. So I have been meaning to watch that,

00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:52.839
and I'm really excited to watch it, because usually,

00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.279
you know, their trucks are, like, huge horsepower,

00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.400
massive tires, and... They're trying to get away

00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.200
from that. Yeah. I know, I can't remember the

00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.079
main guy there. He's got that, like, what is

00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:11.880
it, 79, 70 -something Jeep? Jeepster? Yeah, probably.

00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:15.440
And the red one? Yeah, it's a Jeepster. I do

00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.059
like that, and it sounds great. Yeah, dude. It

00:25:18.059 --> 00:25:21.240
was really cool seeing him do the Overland version

00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:24.339
of that, trying to rock land. That was really

00:25:24.339 --> 00:25:28.130
cool. Dude, I was so here for it. Uh, they did

00:25:28.130 --> 00:25:34.650
that what Rubicon and, um, Oh, Jimmy and Tyler

00:25:34.650 --> 00:25:36.210
are going to be so mad at me that I can't remember

00:25:36.210 --> 00:25:38.490
the name of that trail. We just watched it too.

00:25:38.710 --> 00:25:41.849
I know. But yeah, the, the trails that they did

00:25:41.849 --> 00:25:45.869
were fucking sick. Um, yeah, I, I like rock landing.

00:25:45.970 --> 00:25:48.269
I like doing the harder shit. Well, being able

00:25:48.269 --> 00:25:50.809
to camp. Yeah. So much better. Yeah. I, I mean,

00:25:50.829 --> 00:25:53.710
I, I personally am not as big as a fan, but I

00:25:53.710 --> 00:25:57.690
love watching other people do it. Um, I just,

00:25:57.710 --> 00:26:01.930
to me, like I said, I don't get the, I just don't

00:26:01.930 --> 00:26:06.450
get the pleasure from the stress from that. I

00:26:06.450 --> 00:26:08.829
would rather go through like hellacious snow

00:26:08.829 --> 00:26:12.529
storms or rain storms and have like stuff like

00:26:12.529 --> 00:26:18.089
that happen. Um, but I don't want to like destroy

00:26:18.089 --> 00:26:23.000
my shit. We don't destroy your shit. You got

00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.240
to be better than that. I run with you. My shit

00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.599
gets destroyed now. Cause you're not better than

00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:34.240
that. You're in. So it's the, the fact is I'm

00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.680
trying to do things that you do easily with the

00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.559
truck. That's just not, not made for that right

00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:47.900
now. Yeah. I, I definitely beat on the forerunner

00:26:47.900 --> 00:26:50.049
doing stuff. I shouldn't have. before i built

00:26:50.049 --> 00:26:52.430
it but now that it's where it's at there's a

00:26:52.430 --> 00:26:55.309
lot of things that are just like yeah i can roll

00:26:55.309 --> 00:26:58.250
over that and then i'm watching i watch gavin

00:26:58.250 --> 00:27:00.369
it's like oh god maybe i should have warned him

00:27:00.369 --> 00:27:03.049
i mean i get over most of it still so like i

00:27:03.049 --> 00:27:06.809
there's nothing that he's hit that i've attempted

00:27:06.809 --> 00:27:10.230
and not gotten through this year i i'm smart

00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:13.109
to know like uh skitter hill and stuff i'm smart

00:27:13.109 --> 00:27:16.799
to know my boundary Like, I don't want major

00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.880
body damage. I'm not going to do this. Could

00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:20.680
I do it? Maybe if I didn't give a shit about

00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.599
my truck. You're not going to get major body

00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:26.519
damage from skid rail. You just might lose a

00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.880
man. Yeah, and the whole side of my truck will

00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:35.119
be dented in. Listen, that truck has been on

00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.200
its passenger side a few times now, and there

00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.019
are no dents from it. I'm pretty sure you kicked

00:27:40.019 --> 00:27:44.839
those out. no i've never had a dent on the passenger

00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:49.019
side now the driver's side that has dents from

00:27:49.019 --> 00:27:51.579
side by sides hitting it there's a dent on the

00:27:51.579 --> 00:27:53.740
back tailgate that i really don't know where

00:27:53.740 --> 00:27:56.299
the hell it came from but it came from me but

00:27:56.299 --> 00:27:58.440
it's like it's got to be a tree because it's

00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:01.660
perfectly vertical and it's higher on the tailgate

00:28:01.660 --> 00:28:04.880
so i had to have backed into a tree but when

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:08.319
yeah i don't know man it's i would assume ever

00:28:09.150 --> 00:28:11.769
I was very tree when it comes to turning around

00:28:11.769 --> 00:28:15.309
certain points. So I started noticing it after

00:28:15.309 --> 00:28:19.109
that endeavor with the XJ in, uh, New Ego. So

00:28:19.109 --> 00:28:22.470
I'm wondering if I backed into a tree during

00:28:22.470 --> 00:28:24.950
that whole fiasco fight with someone from an

00:28:24.950 --> 00:28:30.630
XJ. No, I got, I got bored one day and someone

00:28:30.630 --> 00:28:33.230
had posted on New Ego County trail riders and

00:28:33.230 --> 00:28:34.730
they're like, Hey, I'm going to go wheeling.

00:28:34.769 --> 00:28:37.569
I'm like, yo, dude, I was down. Was that a younger

00:28:37.569 --> 00:28:44.529
kid? Or the older guy. I don't know. It wasn't

00:28:44.529 --> 00:28:49.210
the older dude. It was some guy with dreadlocks.

00:28:50.930 --> 00:28:54.410
But anyways, so we go out. Everyone else flaked

00:28:54.410 --> 00:28:57.450
on us. It was just the two of us. And a third

00:28:57.450 --> 00:29:00.569
-gen 4Runner and an XJ should not go wheeling

00:29:00.569 --> 00:29:04.390
alone together. By the way, I'm going to interject

00:29:04.390 --> 00:29:07.509
for just a second. It's Matt. Matt McClellan.

00:29:08.130 --> 00:29:11.220
Sorry, Matt. from Ozark Overland. I really do

00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:14.140
watch all your stuff, despite the fact that I

00:29:14.140 --> 00:29:16.559
couldn't remember your name. Please forgive me.

00:29:18.339 --> 00:29:22.240
But yeah, so me and this XJ, we like, we're just

00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:23.859
hitting things way harder than we should have

00:29:23.859 --> 00:29:27.460
been. No bars held. I bet a lower control arm,

00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.359
an upper control arm, and a knuckle. He bet,

00:29:30.619 --> 00:29:37.420
or no, he lost, he lost for low. and the ability

00:29:37.420 --> 00:29:43.200
to come out of four high uh and i also apparently

00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:47.880
backed into a tree that's uh trying to keep up

00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:52.279
or trying to i don't know man i i hate to say

00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.559
it because trying to keep up with cheap xj activities

00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.259
always lands you in problem oh he was behind

00:29:58.259 --> 00:30:01.839
me he was trying to keep up good Take that, you

00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:08.200
silly XJ. But, you know, when I don't have someone

00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:10.380
to say, hey, dude, don't be an idiot, apparently

00:30:10.380 --> 00:30:13.000
I get way runnier than I need to. Yeah, I'm sure

00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.759
that's a thing. See, that's why the safety inspector

00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:17.680
has to come along. I did drive the truck home

00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.720
that day, though. I think at this point, even

00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.980
if I can't come to some of the wheeling trips,

00:30:24.220 --> 00:30:27.460
I need to be in the vehicle. Someone needs to

00:30:27.460 --> 00:30:32.200
start getting content, goddammit. We need it.

00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:35.240
We need someone who can, because I never remember.

00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:38.700
Not that my wife is bad, but, like, my wife does

00:30:38.700 --> 00:30:41.099
not want to jump out of the truck every 30 seconds

00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:44.400
to get us going up a trail to go do this, go

00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.779
do that, and we have a kid. It's like, next time

00:30:47.779 --> 00:30:52.359
we do a trail that maybe I just can't drive it

00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.289
to, you pick me up. And I do some filming like

00:30:56.289 --> 00:31:00.210
we got to get some content down and like poker

00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:06.009
run. I have to get some. And I don't know, I

00:31:06.009 --> 00:31:09.630
got to get some content for poker run, man. We

00:31:09.630 --> 00:31:13.750
need content of my forerunner doing stuff, because

00:31:13.750 --> 00:31:16.130
for whatever reason, there's videos of Gavin's

00:31:16.130 --> 00:31:18.609
truck that I've taken. There's videos of Mark's

00:31:18.609 --> 00:31:22.359
truck that Gavin took. But there's so much less

00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.259
of the forerunner doing stuff. I've taken a lot

00:31:24.259 --> 00:31:28.759
of videos of you doing stuff. But you go with

00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:30.640
me like a quarter of the time I go home. It's

00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.759
because you don't tell me until after you get

00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.359
back. And I find out about it on the next podcast.

00:31:36.460 --> 00:31:37.859
So you were like, yeah, me and Mark went out.

00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.119
And I was like, you know what? Fuck you guys.

00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.079
We usually talk about it in the botches group

00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:47.500
chat. I don't think so. That's the best part.

00:31:48.170 --> 00:31:50.390
yeah and when you when you talk about it it's

00:31:50.390 --> 00:31:52.890
like too late you know it's like i was like where's

00:31:52.890 --> 00:31:57.269
the planning like oh there's none we'll literally

00:31:57.269 --> 00:32:00.049
be like dude and then i offer a wheel like that's

00:32:00.049 --> 00:32:01.650
how it works okay let's go snow wheel and he's

00:32:01.650 --> 00:32:07.170
like no like dude i had something going on no

00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:12.309
i think you i think mark uh well did you guys

00:32:12.309 --> 00:32:16.769
end up even coming friday did they end up showing

00:32:16.769 --> 00:32:20.799
up The Friday I came, last Friday. Yeah. Didn't

00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.640
you say you were working on the black truck?

00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:26.940
We were supposed to. We ended up cleaning the

00:32:26.940 --> 00:32:31.720
shed and then fixing Mark's brakes. Oh, I did

00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:35.640
get front brakes. How are those? Brakes are good.

00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.400
Good. Although we had an incident backing out.

00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.400
Alan failed to remind me that I had to reapply

00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.220
brake pressure, so I shifted into gear and this

00:32:45.220 --> 00:32:49.819
truck ran away from me for a brief second. I

00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:53.720
was like, I got no brakes. You didn't hit anything,

00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.339
thank God. No. Dude, I was sick Saturday. You

00:32:56.339 --> 00:33:01.039
were sick Friday. You got me sick then. No, maybe,

00:33:01.220 --> 00:33:03.339
because I ended up being sick Saturday and Sunday.

00:33:04.180 --> 00:33:06.319
No, I think mine's more food poisoning because

00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.450
I was puking. shitting my head out for hours

00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:13.950
on end. I hate that. Well, I ended up not going

00:33:13.950 --> 00:33:16.509
to the concert. Sorry. With that image, we're

00:33:16.509 --> 00:33:18.369
at 30 minutes. You didn't go to the concert either?

00:33:18.650 --> 00:33:22.170
No. I got sick before the concert. Wait. Yeah.

00:33:22.369 --> 00:33:25.730
So what did we eat Saturday? Didn't he bring

00:33:25.730 --> 00:33:31.490
you food Friday? I ate the leftover burritos

00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:33.869
from the night before for Friday. Dude, what

00:33:33.869 --> 00:33:37.339
if it was the fucking burritos? Beyond that,

00:33:37.339 --> 00:33:40.259
it was fries and McChicken. Had to have been

00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:43.240
the burritos. But I'm still wondering if it's

00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:47.099
what my mom bought leftovers from a gathering.

00:33:47.140 --> 00:33:51.579
It was like a cheek, like a pig cheek meat. I

00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:53.000
don't remember how it was called. Oh, you mean

00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:56.519
cow cheek? Seasoned. That's like a typical Mexican.

00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:02.240
Yes. It was very seasoned. Say pork cheek is

00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.359
a lot more typical in Mexican cuisine. I think

00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:08.519
it's pork cheek. Depends on where you're at in

00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:13.360
Mexico, but pork cheek. I think I might have

00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.320
overdid it with the pork. Sometimes it's the

00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.599
grease in it. So when I started eating like Mexican

00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.699
food, traditional Mexican food, there's a shit

00:34:22.699 --> 00:34:24.599
ton of grease in those compared to like what

00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.170
I was eating typically. I cannot pronounce this

00:34:28.170 --> 00:34:33.190
word. Carolina? Yes. Carolina? Yeah. That. Yeah.

00:34:33.250 --> 00:34:40.269
Carolina de Corserto. It's really common. I'm

00:34:40.269 --> 00:34:43.230
not a Spanish, I was going to say. I'm not one

00:34:43.230 --> 00:34:46.949
of those. You sound close to what it's supposed

00:34:46.949 --> 00:34:51.269
to be. Yeah, so I only know that because I lived

00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:54.900
right next to the Sonoran. country in mexico

00:34:54.900 --> 00:34:58.400
called sonora um and it was a really common meal

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:04.440
in there uh then if you go more like southwestern

00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:07.780
mexico then it becomes more common to have like

00:35:07.780 --> 00:35:11.340
uh beef cheek which i don't remember what that's

00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:16.300
called is it like no lingua is the tongue i'm

00:35:16.300 --> 00:35:20.000
trying to remember which tongue is good too uh

00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:32.389
Mahilo? Mahilo? Wait. Mahia. Mahia de res. No,

00:35:32.449 --> 00:35:35.070
it was definitely the pork cheek. Yeah, so Mahia

00:35:35.070 --> 00:35:38.250
de res is the pork or beef cheek. It's usually

00:35:38.250 --> 00:35:43.309
barbacoa. We all know what barbacoa is. So good.

00:35:43.610 --> 00:35:46.650
Yep. If you don't have that, you can always make

00:35:46.650 --> 00:35:49.659
barbacoa with, like, roast. Which is what I typically

00:35:49.659 --> 00:35:52.860
do because cheek is not usually the easiest thing

00:35:52.860 --> 00:35:57.199
to find. Oh, dude, it's so easy. You live in

00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.119
Grant, dude. I don't shop at the Mexican store

00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.119
much. Or jeans. You can go to jeans. I don't

00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:07.219
go to jeans either. I've been to jeans. Actually,

00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.679
you can go to Meijer in Fremont. We've looked

00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.340
because Santa's grandma cooks a lot of that.

00:36:16.619 --> 00:36:19.280
You go to the butcher. You go to the butcher

00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.719
and you say, I want cheek. And then he will get

00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.960
you cheek. Because they have an actual butcher

00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.059
at the bunker in Fremont. Yeah, because they've

00:36:29.059 --> 00:36:32.239
had issues getting oxtail, too. Because they've

00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.760
asked us to go look for oxtail. That is a lot

00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.199
harder. That's a lot harder. That sounds very

00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.199
special to you. That would be the Mexican store

00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.800
in Grant. Yeah, and she couldn't find any because

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.719
she was going to make caldo. And she wanted oxtail.

00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:50.030
Or if you go... If you go talk to the Amish at

00:36:50.030 --> 00:36:52.269
the Amish store, they also might be able to.

00:36:52.389 --> 00:36:55.530
I don't want that much. I'm not. I'm not. I don't

00:36:55.530 --> 00:36:57.570
really like prefer things you have to work at

00:36:57.570 --> 00:37:01.690
like chicken wings with bones. It's like or or

00:37:01.690 --> 00:37:03.909
even ribs with bones. If they don't fall off,

00:37:04.030 --> 00:37:07.369
I don't want to eat them like a corn cob. There's

00:37:07.369 --> 00:37:10.449
more bone than there is meat. I I'm not about

00:37:10.449 --> 00:37:14.559
it. I only like chicken with bone. I only like

00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.679
chicken with bones because it's generally a darker

00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.559
meat if there's a bone right there, and I like

00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:20.519
dark meat on chicken. I like white meat. I like

00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:24.960
juicy white meat, man. You are a white man, so

00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.659
that is pretty typical. I'm Mexican, man. You

00:37:27.659 --> 00:37:32.139
would like the spot with less flavor. It's only

00:37:32.139 --> 00:37:33.860
got less flavor if you don't know how to cook,

00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:39.960
brother. Brother. In general, white meat has

00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:44.510
less flavor than dark meat. That's... No, that's

00:37:44.510 --> 00:37:48.730
accurate. This is one of those. Because. It just

00:37:48.730 --> 00:37:50.730
tastes different. You can cook them. It's like.

00:37:51.469 --> 00:37:54.070
You can cook them the same. Yeah, it does taste

00:37:54.070 --> 00:37:56.309
different. It's bland. So is dark meat. It all

00:37:56.309 --> 00:37:57.989
tastes the same. And it gives you a headache.

00:37:58.369 --> 00:38:00.570
Because it's so greasy. No, it doesn't. Oh, my

00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:06.269
God. Greasy. Anyways. What got us on this topic?

00:38:06.269 --> 00:38:10.210
Benji. It was all Benji's fault. No. No, Benji

00:38:10.210 --> 00:38:12.239
wasn't. No, me being sick. Oh, yeah. Mark being

00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:17.840
sick. Wow. Speaking of, we smoked. You're my

00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.280
kid just fucking like running down the hallway

00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:25.760
screaming. We did. We did. I don't think the

00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.320
listeners will. Let's hope not. But we had five

00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.280
turkeys that we smoked three of them for like

00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:39.070
10 hours. And then one person. Cooked one in

00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:40.710
the oven. The other person cooked them in their

00:38:40.710 --> 00:38:45.510
oven. And, yes, big difference. If you eat turkey,

00:38:45.809 --> 00:38:51.610
smoke them. They're so good. Or deep fry. Deep

00:38:51.610 --> 00:38:55.510
fry is mmm. No. And if you're going to smoke

00:38:55.510 --> 00:38:59.250
them, do it trash can style because it's so much

00:38:59.250 --> 00:39:04.409
better. Have you ever had trash can turkey? No.

00:39:04.449 --> 00:39:06.309
Usually if it's in the trash can, I leave it

00:39:06.309 --> 00:39:12.119
there. So you buy a new trash can. You buy a

00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.920
new trash can. You start a fire. Get your fire

00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.920
going. You put the turkey on a spick or something

00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:21.860
in the middle of the trash can. Put the trash

00:39:21.860 --> 00:39:24.639
can over top. Surround it with coals. It gives

00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:28.019
it this nice, deep, smoky flavor. And it cooks

00:39:28.019 --> 00:39:31.820
it to perfection. You can't reach that level

00:39:31.820 --> 00:39:37.190
without it being in. Yeah, like, a smoker can't

00:39:37.190 --> 00:39:39.929
get it there. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to get

00:39:39.929 --> 00:39:41.929
that, like, metallic flavor. I feel like Alex

00:39:41.929 --> 00:39:45.710
needs to do it one time. It doesn't touch the

00:39:45.710 --> 00:39:47.730
trash can. Yeah, but you don't think, like, burning

00:39:47.730 --> 00:39:50.489
the sides of the trash can with coal doesn't

00:39:50.489 --> 00:39:54.449
put any kind of... It's like... Listen, dude.

00:39:54.590 --> 00:39:56.989
Like burning a paint can. Trash can turkey's

00:39:56.989 --> 00:40:01.110
phenomenal. No, you don't do it in, like, you

00:40:01.110 --> 00:40:03.760
don't do it in a painted... Trash can. Or you

00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.340
just do one like a galvanized, like a coated

00:40:06.340 --> 00:40:10.059
with chemicals trash can. Yeah, don't do that

00:40:10.059 --> 00:40:15.280
either. Find me a steel uncoated trash can. Dude.

00:40:15.579 --> 00:40:17.980
Okay, my grandpa's got one. We use it every year

00:40:17.980 --> 00:40:20.000
for trash can turkeys. Yeah, from the 60s. And

00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:21.900
then you have to worry about rust. Probably.

00:40:21.900 --> 00:40:26.309
And the lead that they went into it. But no,

00:40:26.469 --> 00:40:28.429
trash can turkey is phenomenal. It's the best

00:40:28.429 --> 00:40:31.369
way to cook a turkey when you're not near a power

00:40:31.369 --> 00:40:33.329
source. Yes, like a smoker. But if you don't,

00:40:33.329 --> 00:40:37.150
bury your turkey in the ground. It's the best.

00:40:37.889 --> 00:40:43.289
Yeah, that also works. But anyways, on to roasting.

00:40:43.530 --> 00:40:45.610
That's why I took so long and I kept switching

00:40:45.610 --> 00:40:48.929
the topic because there is really nothing. There's

00:40:48.929 --> 00:40:51.769
nothing here for a segment. So I really wanted

00:40:51.769 --> 00:40:58.329
to take as much time as I could. All right. Gavin,

00:40:58.590 --> 00:41:03.929
your FJ is a mess. There's so much stuff everywhere.

00:41:05.389 --> 00:41:12.630
Yeah. Wow. What was I supposed to do? Fight back?

00:41:13.750 --> 00:41:18.269
Oh. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, at least my radio works.

00:41:20.510 --> 00:41:25.199
Hey. If I hadn't fixed mine, that'd be a good

00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.639
idea. I don't know that you have. Every time

00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:32.300
I get in your car, something's going on. Something

00:41:32.300 --> 00:41:35.699
that doesn't work. Your door latch breaks. And

00:41:35.699 --> 00:41:37.599
then you lock yourself out of the truck for a

00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.420
second, so you have to pull your door latch out

00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:44.000
to unlock the truck. It's always something. That's

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.800
not an issue. Yeah, exactly. At least my door

00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:53.550
latches work. Gavin, your tires are small. They

00:41:53.550 --> 00:41:59.829
are small. But you know what? It's just a temporary

00:41:59.829 --> 00:42:03.110
thing. I actually want to get wider tires now

00:42:03.110 --> 00:42:05.590
that you mentioned that. I just want the profile

00:42:05.590 --> 00:42:09.650
and more tread. But, yes, they are small. 33

00:42:09.650 --> 00:42:14.769
is tiny. But when someone sells me their rims,

00:42:14.769 --> 00:42:23.369
I will get wider tires, hopefully. Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:23.590 --> 00:42:26.210
We'll see if that happens. Cause I fell in love.

00:42:26.250 --> 00:42:29.110
Oh my God. See, this is why we, this is why you

00:42:29.110 --> 00:42:32.329
don't deal with your friends, especially ones

00:42:32.329 --> 00:42:35.190
that change their mind every day, three times

00:42:35.190 --> 00:42:39.130
a day. Well, I found out that it wasn't the rims

00:42:39.130 --> 00:42:42.630
I didn't like anymore. It was the tires. Do you

00:42:42.630 --> 00:42:44.869
have like glorified street tires on right now?

00:42:44.909 --> 00:42:49.269
Don't you? I would say they're a little more

00:42:49.269 --> 00:42:51.909
than that. They're closer to like an AT3. Yeah,

00:42:51.989 --> 00:42:54.409
compared to your mud ones, they kind of look

00:42:54.409 --> 00:42:59.030
like street boys. City slicks. That's all terrains

00:42:59.030 --> 00:43:02.469
versus mud terrain. They're fucking great, to

00:43:02.469 --> 00:43:04.809
be honest. I agree, too. I was happy to see you

00:43:04.809 --> 00:43:06.949
go to an all terrain versus the mud. I was like,

00:43:06.949 --> 00:43:11.110
finally, the dark side. Oh, dude, next time I'm

00:43:11.110 --> 00:43:13.250
going back to mud terrains. Alex doesn't like

00:43:13.250 --> 00:43:16.750
to have the efficiency. He wants to struggle.

00:43:16.829 --> 00:43:19.550
He likes the pain. So he tries to put himself

00:43:19.550 --> 00:43:22.650
into those situations. He's like, I'm getting

00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:25.710
too much traction on this road. How can I make

00:43:25.710 --> 00:43:30.909
it worse? It hasn't been that much better. Like,

00:43:30.949 --> 00:43:35.369
it has, obviously. I'm doing like 65 on icy roads

00:43:35.369 --> 00:43:41.750
now. Versus the 35. Hey, 35 and sliding, boy.

00:43:41.769 --> 00:43:51.960
It is fun. Gavin, your FJ's color is really ugly.

00:43:52.099 --> 00:43:56.420
Yeah, it is. I want to wrap it, but it's also

00:43:56.420 --> 00:44:01.599
grown on me, too. I don't mind berry color. It

00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:07.980
would look so sick in a dark gray matte wrap

00:44:07.980 --> 00:44:14.480
or maybe an OD green matte wrap. OD green, man.

00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:20.300
Such a gross color. I would take a dark forest

00:44:20.300 --> 00:44:24.639
green like Duncan's. I would take that and some

00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:29.440
bronze wheels. That look. Yeah, I would take

00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:36.260
that for sure. Otherwise, I don't know. I think

00:44:36.260 --> 00:44:39.579
I'm just going to keep the berry, do some topo

00:44:39.579 --> 00:44:43.199
on it, black out the top, put some bronze wheels

00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:47.219
on there. Call it a day until the next time I

00:44:47.219 --> 00:44:50.579
can afford wrap and do something fun. Or if Onyx

00:44:50.579 --> 00:44:53.239
wants to pay me, they can put a wrap on there.

00:44:53.619 --> 00:44:55.800
I'll run around with Onyx stamped on the side

00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:59.219
of my truck if they pay for a wrap. Just to help

00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:03.639
give me some protection, man. I'll do it with

00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:06.280
fucking Wonder Bread. I'll fucking Wonder Bread

00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.739
up my car like Ricky Bobby. If they pay for the

00:45:10.739 --> 00:45:13.380
wrap, you got it, Wonder Bread. Coming right

00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:18.579
up. we should we should design like a sick botches

00:45:18.579 --> 00:45:21.760
off road wrap for one of the shows wonder bread

00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:24.860
theme that would be really cool with the white

00:45:24.860 --> 00:45:29.300
with the polka dots i i don't hate that idea

00:45:29.300 --> 00:45:33.000
actually we're not like we need like we need

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.019
a champion truck you know like i thought that

00:45:35.019 --> 00:45:37.440
was supposed to be your truck one of the truck

00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:43.190
build for 2027 Oh, fuck, dude. That shit just

00:45:43.190 --> 00:45:45.550
keeps getting pushed back. We got so much shit

00:45:45.550 --> 00:45:47.550
going on. This is what I'm talking about, folks.

00:45:48.530 --> 00:45:51.590
He's like, I got plans for you. You watch. This

00:45:51.590 --> 00:45:53.010
is what I'm going to do. This is what I'm going

00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:55.349
to do. And I'm like, uh -huh. Uh -huh. We'll

00:45:55.349 --> 00:45:58.610
see. Oh, dude, I do it slow. I do it slow because

00:45:58.610 --> 00:46:00.530
I'm broke as fuck. But no, you're right. The

00:46:00.530 --> 00:46:02.610
Holy Grail would be really sick with the botches

00:46:02.610 --> 00:46:05.889
off. I feel like it has to, though. That is the

00:46:05.889 --> 00:46:09.349
truck. The Holy Grail. I mean, you have to do

00:46:09.349 --> 00:46:14.239
it with that one. yeah i i was going to just

00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:18.500
keep it clean but now i kind of want to do a

00:46:18.500 --> 00:46:21.360
botches off road wrap like i was gonna do i was

00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.699
gonna do no stickers like just it would be cool

00:46:24.699 --> 00:46:27.039
to do a matte black with a dark green forest

00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.139
top of lines and then botches 2023 right there

00:46:31.139 --> 00:46:35.039
on the door sides would be really cool that'd

00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:41.440
be pretty sick yeah yeah all right well I need

00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:43.619
money to work on the Holy grail. Cause I really

00:46:43.619 --> 00:46:46.179
want to know. Yeah. I mean, the frames, the problem

00:46:46.179 --> 00:46:51.760
is the problem is that the, the rear axles like

00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:56.119
five grand for the, just the suspension, not

00:46:56.119 --> 00:47:01.099
including axle. Um, I did find a set of axles

00:47:01.099 --> 00:47:05.420
for $500. So I'll be getting on that soon. Um,

00:47:05.619 --> 00:47:10.320
they're super duty axles. 373 gearing i'll probably

00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:16.179
up it to like 480 or 488 um oh yeah nothing crazy

00:47:16.179 --> 00:47:21.760
that reminds me um since you're talking about

00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:26.519
ford and axles somehow i got all the way over

00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:31.760
back to the youtube content creators um so what's

00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:35.320
his name is it dirt king snow king dirt lifestyle

00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:41.289
right I love watching Dirt Lifestyle. This guy

00:47:41.289 --> 00:47:44.730
does some rock landing. He does that shit, and

00:47:44.730 --> 00:47:51.590
he does it in IFS. And right now, he's working

00:47:51.590 --> 00:47:55.949
on a van build. It's so fun to fucking watch.

00:47:56.269 --> 00:47:59.690
So I'm not usually into builds. I did watch the...

00:47:59.690 --> 00:48:05.070
What was the off -road wrecker? The Banana. I

00:48:05.070 --> 00:48:08.190
can't remember what it's called. Oh, Matt's Off

00:48:08.190 --> 00:48:11.070
-Road. I watched it. The world's largest off

00:48:11.070 --> 00:48:13.869
-road record. I know that it is, but it's a really,

00:48:13.949 --> 00:48:16.769
really cool build to watch. It's been up for

00:48:16.769 --> 00:48:19.170
debate for a while now. But I've been watching

00:48:19.170 --> 00:48:26.949
this one with Dirt Lifestyle doing his fucking,

00:48:27.130 --> 00:48:30.969
what is it? Yeah, he's swapping a fucking Cummins

00:48:30.969 --> 00:48:35.260
six -speed manual into his van. He's putting

00:48:35.260 --> 00:48:40.480
it on like 42s. It's just really cool. And he

00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.480
did a facelift with an ambulance on the front

00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:47.460
of the van just to give it a little bit cooler

00:48:47.460 --> 00:48:51.400
look, more modern. It's just cool. And then watching

00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.239
him snowwheel, sick. He just went to, I think,

00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:59.460
Iceland and went snowwheeling in Iceland. And

00:48:59.460 --> 00:49:01.480
that was fucking sick, like seeing the other

00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:03.590
rigs that were out there. There was actually

00:49:03.590 --> 00:49:05.690
a couple of Jeeps out there. He was riding a

00:49:05.690 --> 00:49:09.949
Jeep that I think had a swapped 350. And then

00:49:09.949 --> 00:49:12.210
there was another Jeep in there. It's just cool,

00:49:12.289 --> 00:49:14.829
man. He's just got a really cool channel, too.

00:49:14.889 --> 00:49:19.050
He's got that different kind of content. Like,

00:49:19.050 --> 00:49:23.250
if you like rock landing and stuff, he's much

00:49:23.250 --> 00:49:30.010
more into that. And he's got a really sick Tacoma

00:49:30.010 --> 00:49:33.739
on. Long travel and portals. Yeah, it is sick.

00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.900
I think it is literally the most built IFS. Yeah.

00:49:37.900 --> 00:49:43.579
Oh, for sure. Not to mention his old -ass Land

00:49:43.579 --> 00:49:46.900
Rover that just floats on snow. Really cool to

00:49:46.900 --> 00:49:52.360
watch. And he did have a Land Cruiser, or a Land

00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.849
Rover, and I don't think he has it anymore. But

00:49:55.849 --> 00:49:58.130
I am looking forward to him getting a Delica.

00:49:58.190 --> 00:50:00.329
I think he got rid of some of those. He wants

00:50:00.329 --> 00:50:03.869
a Delica so bad, and I would love to see him

00:50:03.869 --> 00:50:07.429
build one out. That would be so cool. I wonder

00:50:07.429 --> 00:50:11.230
if it's like me and MR2s. I'm just not allowed

00:50:11.230 --> 00:50:16.190
to own one. He went on a trail ride with a guy

00:50:16.190 --> 00:50:19.110
with a Delica, and that did. a lot better than

00:50:19.110 --> 00:50:21.409
i thought it would don't watch that one um and

00:50:21.409 --> 00:50:23.750
he was talking it up like he's like i i want

00:50:23.750 --> 00:50:27.469
one it's gonna happen and i'm like cool dude

00:50:27.469 --> 00:50:34.250
i i want an mr2 so bad but every time that i

00:50:34.250 --> 00:50:36.909
go to buy one like i bought one one time beautiful

00:50:36.909 --> 00:50:41.150
had 30 000 miles on it 86 five speed and it was

00:50:41.150 --> 00:50:43.150
in a barn that caught fire and burnt to the ground

00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:49.380
yeah so i saw I saw the car once. I gotta go

00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:51.599
back. He's got a lot of cool build videos. I'd

00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.099
be interested to look back at his... He has one

00:50:54.099 --> 00:50:56.219
from two years ago, Unstoppable Land Cruiser

00:50:56.219 --> 00:50:59.780
80 Rock Crawler. Love to see that. Look at that

00:50:59.780 --> 00:51:04.519
stuff. He's very knowledgeable about the off

00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.960
-road aspects. He knows mechanically what he's

00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.199
doing. And he does a lot of his own work. He

00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:12.420
does his own fabs and stuff like that. He makes

00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:17.400
his own bumper. he's full -on rebuilt that front

00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.699
end oh yeah it's too he's i think he ran to like

00:51:20.699 --> 00:51:23.559
caribou or a moose with it so he had to rebuild

00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.280
the whole it's really cool and i just honestly

00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:30.059
his videography too is like top notch for someone

00:51:30.059 --> 00:51:33.099
who does all this other stuff too he's got really

00:51:33.099 --> 00:51:35.900
good videography and watching him snow wheel

00:51:35.900 --> 00:51:38.619
with that truck and the sound is just it gets

00:51:38.619 --> 00:51:41.510
me going like I was watching his videos before

00:51:41.510 --> 00:51:43.210
I went and saw Alex, and I was like, come on,

00:51:43.210 --> 00:51:45.349
Alex, let's go snowwheeling. Like, I want to

00:51:45.349 --> 00:51:50.909
go. It is. He's one of those creators, like a

00:51:50.909 --> 00:51:52.590
couple of my other favorite ones that I've already

00:51:52.590 --> 00:51:55.269
mentioned, that just they inspire me to want

00:51:55.269 --> 00:51:59.789
to get out and go. Okay, fine, Gavin. You want

00:51:59.789 --> 00:52:01.590
to go snowwheeling? What are you doing Saturday?

00:52:01.869 --> 00:52:05.429
Right now, I don't know. Nothing, probably. Let's

00:52:05.429 --> 00:52:08.710
go to Rocks and Valleys and do some snowwheeling.

00:52:09.869 --> 00:52:16.130
Two hours away? No. It's like an hour. I thought

00:52:16.130 --> 00:52:22.610
Rocks and Valleys was two hours. Rocks and Valleys

00:52:22.610 --> 00:52:30.690
is our closest park. Big Park, yes. I was about

00:52:30.690 --> 00:52:33.909
to say St. John's. Oh, it's an hour 35. What

00:52:33.909 --> 00:52:36.050
was I thinking of that was like two hours away?

00:52:36.050 --> 00:52:42.679
So from my house. From my house, Rocks and Valleys

00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:45.340
is about an hour and a half. Hour 35 for me.

00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:53.940
St. John's is about the same distance, actually.

00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:59.320
I'd like to go wheeling on, like, trails, trails,

00:52:59.579 --> 00:53:03.679
though. Dude, have you been to Rocks and Valleys?

00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.760
It's not that I, like, I don't know. How do I

00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.179
explain it, guys? Help me out. Put a voicemail

00:53:10.179 --> 00:53:15.099
on there. Like, I don't like the idea of the

00:53:15.099 --> 00:53:17.320
off -road park. I get that they're not with,

00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.900
you know, that they're not exactly just an off

00:53:19.900 --> 00:53:21.599
-road park, that there are trails. But, like,

00:53:21.619 --> 00:53:25.940
I want to go and explore, like, trails 30, 40

00:53:25.940 --> 00:53:29.000
minutes away, like, just regular old trails.

00:53:29.139 --> 00:53:31.599
I want to see what's out there. I want to break.

00:53:31.860 --> 00:53:34.539
I want to go on places that other people haven't

00:53:34.539 --> 00:53:40.659
been. As someone who shares that sentiment, chances

00:53:40.659 --> 00:53:42.900
to go to some of these parks in the snow are

00:53:42.900 --> 00:53:46.559
worth taking. Rocks and valleys, honestly, it's

00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:50.780
a great time. It's worth going to. I am not one

00:53:50.780 --> 00:53:55.239
to generally want to go to a park. There's two

00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.719
parks that I found that I like. Rocks and valleys

00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:01.820
and Leatherwood. Leatherwood, I can't even call

00:54:01.820 --> 00:54:04.309
a park because... There's more land in Leatherwood,

00:54:04.409 --> 00:54:06.269
almost as much land in Leatherwood as there is

00:54:06.269 --> 00:54:07.050
in our part of the nation. Yeah, I was going

00:54:07.050 --> 00:54:09.329
to say, that's like a nature preserve for off

00:54:09.329 --> 00:54:13.130
-roading. That's kind of what I see. Like, you

00:54:13.130 --> 00:54:15.909
have to stay on the trails, but otherwise, it's

00:54:15.909 --> 00:54:20.550
like, what is it, like 60 ,000 plus acres? 55

00:54:20.550 --> 00:54:23.750
,000 acres. Yeah, 55 ,000. Connected to state

00:54:23.750 --> 00:54:26.110
forests. It's basically a nature preserve. I

00:54:26.110 --> 00:54:30.409
mean, a lot of these trails, everything other

00:54:30.409 --> 00:54:33.940
than these trails is... Pretty much, you know,

00:54:33.940 --> 00:54:39.079
left as is. So it's really cool. I would definitely,

00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:42.980
I don't know, man. I will talk to her about it

00:54:42.980 --> 00:54:45.739
and see what our money situation is for gas.

00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:49.840
But that's kind of the biggest issue is the time

00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:54.519
and gas. Otherwise. Mark, are you going to do

00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:58.079
some rocks and valleys on Saturday? No. Why not?

00:54:58.179 --> 00:55:02.000
What the fuck? I'm tight on budget, like really

00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:06.079
bad this week. Bro, let's go to Rocks and Valleys

00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:14.219
on Saturday. He can ride with you. Yeah, he can

00:55:14.219 --> 00:55:17.019
ride with me. Maybe I'll ride with you. I have

00:55:17.019 --> 00:55:20.059
to see what's working, but maybe I'll ride and

00:55:20.059 --> 00:55:22.880
I can take some video. I don't know. I'll think

00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.940
about it. I have to see what I got going on because

00:55:25.940 --> 00:55:28.219
I know I got bills paid. Like, you're looking

00:55:28.219 --> 00:55:33.380
at, what, a $40 gas tank fill up and $20 entrance

00:55:33.380 --> 00:55:37.179
fee. $60? Dude, I got you. That's $40, like,

00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:43.739
one way. He definitely gets more than... For

00:55:43.739 --> 00:55:45.400
me, it's probably going to be for an hour and

00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:50.559
a half drive. Dude, it's 100 miles. You get better

00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:51.780
than 100 miles to a tank. Yeah, I'll have to

00:55:51.780 --> 00:55:54.550
fill up, though, either way after. So it's still

00:55:54.550 --> 00:55:58.730
going to be 80 -some bucks. Like, when I go there

00:55:58.730 --> 00:56:00.769
and then when I get back and then I have to fill

00:56:00.769 --> 00:56:02.969
up for the rest of the week, that's where it

00:56:02.969 --> 00:56:05.969
is. Like, looking at that. Like, to get there,

00:56:06.130 --> 00:56:09.610
yeah, not an issue, 40 bucks. It's to get back

00:56:09.610 --> 00:56:12.010
and then still have gas and money for the rest

00:56:12.010 --> 00:56:14.989
of the week. Because then we have to buy stuff

00:56:14.989 --> 00:56:18.869
while we're there, food and whatnot. What do

00:56:18.869 --> 00:56:22.369
you have to buy while you're there? Why? Because.

00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.920
my wife and son eat oh just pack that's what

00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:29.820
i'm saying i still have to buy food i don't have

00:56:29.820 --> 00:56:33.099
food in the house friday is when we stock it's

00:56:33.099 --> 00:56:38.659
like a pack of tortillas some ham and some cheese

00:56:38.659 --> 00:56:41.579
and some mayonnaise and bam yeah you're talking

00:56:41.579 --> 00:56:46.139
to higher maintenance co -workers here you've

00:56:46.139 --> 00:56:49.639
you've literally got no you know what i'll cover

00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:53.340
lunch for that i'll talk to sienna about it Because

00:56:53.340 --> 00:56:57.820
I have five boxes or five unopened boxes of MREs.

00:56:58.099 --> 00:57:01.260
That might be down for that. I'm going to try

00:57:01.260 --> 00:57:05.079
and come, whether it's in my vehicle or just

00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:10.300
ride along with you, so I could take video, which

00:57:10.300 --> 00:57:12.960
would not be a bad idea either. But I'd like

00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:18.280
to come. Let me see where. I don't remember if

00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:19.980
she works this Saturday or not. That's the biggest

00:57:19.980 --> 00:57:22.019
issue, is her work schedule's been getting really

00:57:22.019 --> 00:57:26.639
fucky. Like, she's gotta do one all day again

00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.920
Wednesday. Like, she has to do one once or twice

00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:33.780
a week, and it's been changing. I don't know.

00:57:33.860 --> 00:57:38.519
We'll see. We at least need two trucks to go.

00:57:39.659 --> 00:57:42.780
because we need content and this is a good chance

00:57:42.780 --> 00:57:45.500
to get fun well one one truck and one guy to

00:57:45.500 --> 00:57:47.900
take video of you doing all the shit too so i

00:57:47.900 --> 00:57:51.780
mean really you just need two people or you know

00:57:51.780 --> 00:57:56.840
i mean no you need a second truck because we

00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:00.440
need content from more than one vehicle and if

00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.639
one breaks we're gonna want a way to get around

00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.380
yeah that's what it is i want i want to get I

00:58:07.380 --> 00:58:09.639
want to get rowdy. I'll talk to Sienna. Like,

00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:15.280
it's not my... Wait, do we need flags? Oh, I

00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:21.159
have to find my flag. Technically, Alex has two

00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:23.880
sets of flags. Okay, if you do, I might be better

00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:27.440
off, too, because... I have a Rocks and Valley

00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:32.119
flag and a... Never enough. Never enough flag.

00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:34.880
I'll have to look. I think my flags are sitting

00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:39.110
in the yard somewhere. Well, it's like I took

00:58:39.110 --> 00:58:41.329
them off because everyone was like, why are you

00:58:41.329 --> 00:58:43.670
leaving your flag post on all the time? I'm like,

00:58:43.789 --> 00:58:46.690
I don't know. So I finally took it off when I

00:58:46.690 --> 00:58:49.829
put the winch bumper on. I just kind of threw

00:58:49.829 --> 00:58:55.429
them to the side and forgot about them. I absolutely

00:58:55.429 --> 00:58:58.550
hate flags, but they're a necessary evil for

00:58:58.550 --> 00:59:00.530
Michigan off -road parks. No other off -road

00:59:00.530 --> 00:59:02.809
parks. Michigan off -road parks. Too many crazy

00:59:02.809 --> 00:59:09.480
peoples. I mean, you don't need it for St. John's.

00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:13.480
That park is the size of a postage stamp. You

00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:16.000
can see what everyone's doing at any given moment.

00:59:16.179 --> 00:59:20.280
I would really like to go... What we don't have

00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.500
a lot of is night wheeling. I would like to do

00:59:23.500 --> 00:59:31.880
some night wheel camera footage stuff. It's so

00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:35.889
much harder, though. We'd almost have to do,

00:59:35.909 --> 00:59:39.429
like, twilight night wheeling, like, before the

00:59:39.429 --> 00:59:42.550
sun sets. I get it, but it would still be fun.

00:59:42.730 --> 00:59:45.389
Okay, Mark, would you be more inclined if we

00:59:45.389 --> 00:59:47.710
didn't go to Rocks and Valleys and we did some

00:59:47.710 --> 00:59:51.570
New Eggo County wheeling? I'd be more inclined.

00:59:52.989 --> 00:59:55.309
Gavin, would you be more inclined to do some

00:59:55.309 --> 00:59:55.989
New Eggo County wheeling? I mean, yeah, you know

00:59:55.989 --> 00:59:59.690
that already. Like, I just... Okay. We could

00:59:59.690 --> 01:00:03.039
go break some laws. Just kidding, guys. We're

01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:08.679
not going to break the laws. Never mind. I was

01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:10.460
very curious. I'm not going to continue with

01:00:10.460 --> 01:00:12.860
it on. Oh, fair conversation. I'm not going to

01:00:12.860 --> 01:00:15.960
continue with that here. Just go rob a bank so

01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:20.900
we can get some money. God damn it. Now our podcast

01:00:20.900 --> 01:00:27.280
is on a watch list. No, let's plan that. Saturday,

01:00:27.340 --> 01:00:30.760
let's plan on doing, like, Saturday evening wheeling.

01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:35.079
My kid is going crazy. Leave it like two in the

01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:41.099
afternoon. Go out. Wheel to like six. I'm down.

01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:46.340
Yeah. I'm down. I'm down. I will. Maybe we'll

01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:48.900
make it to Skitter Hill. Yeah. Honestly, I'd

01:00:48.900 --> 01:00:52.059
just like to drive on some snow, some powder.

01:00:52.860 --> 01:00:55.059
Like, I'd love if we got a good snow. Oh, we're

01:00:55.059 --> 01:00:59.440
supposed to get a lot. I'm hoping. Is it snowing

01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:01.739
right now? I don't know. I'm not near a window.

01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:08.320
Yeah, me either. I'm not looking forward to going

01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:12.440
and pushing snow in a blizzard. It's going to

01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:13.920
be fucking terrible. Yeah, let me know if there's

01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.460
snow out there. You live in the open area. You'll

01:01:16.460 --> 01:01:21.070
be able to get a good weather indication. yeah

01:01:21.070 --> 01:01:23.889
dude let's do it saturday at two let's meet up

01:01:23.889 --> 01:01:27.409
at pink's and go do some sounds good we made

01:01:27.409 --> 01:01:31.469
plans guys pulled us to it and uh hopefully you'll

01:01:31.469 --> 01:01:34.409
see some content on both of our instagrams if

01:01:34.409 --> 01:01:38.389
um a lot of the times like we went wheeling on

01:01:38.389 --> 01:01:42.030
ever here a month or two ago and it was just

01:01:42.030 --> 01:01:44.170
so fun going out and getting out with the guys

01:01:44.170 --> 01:01:46.789
a little bit that we filmed pretty much nothing

01:01:47.579 --> 01:01:50.940
and i realized dude and i realized that after

01:01:50.940 --> 01:01:54.099
that was the last time and i realized that after

01:01:54.099 --> 01:01:57.519
we got back i was like nobody got me going through

01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:00.320
that fucking spot again like i got redemption

01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.639
mark got redemption nobody got us going through

01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:06.119
it i'm like how did nobody have a phone and then

01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:07.880
i'm like because we were all just having fun

01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.920
but like but that hurt me too because like all

01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:13.739
of a sudden i had nothing for like the next month

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did i Did I have 35s on yet for that trip? No,

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I was still on 33s. Yeah. And I just kind of

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rolled through that spot. We should hit it again.

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But we are also at our hour mark. Yep, sure are.

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Catch you guys later.