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wrap, right? We're going to talk about what we
did, what we had planned. But I just got to bitch
for a second. Okay. So, I have baby birds coming
tomorrow. They're supposed to be here at 8 a
.m. I get a call at, let's say, 6. And they told
me that they're now coming at 3 a .m. Now, that's
already annoying, right? Hmm. But as you guys
know, it is Tuesday night, and we're about to
get a massive snowstorm. Tonight. Yeah, they're
probably trying to beat the snowstorm is what
they're doing. We're getting somewhere between
4 and 5 inches before 3 a .m. I have now talked
to the driver, who had no idea. That we were
getting a storm tonight. Oh. Yeah. So, that's
my day. Yeah. You know what I found out today?
What's that? Secretary of State now does same
-day title transfer printouts at house. I did
not know that. They have done that? Oh, like
at your house? No, like in store. They have done
that since 2020 in most locations. What? Fremont,
I think Fremont just started doing it like within
the last two or three years. I think they just
started recently when the car went through their
fucking lobby, right? Most of them have been
doing it since 2020. I only know that because
I flipped like 30 cars in 2020. Because I've
had... title transfers and stuff before, and
they've always been mailed. This is the first
time I ever had the option to just get it instantly.
It's not always available. It's usually available.
Lame. If they run out of titles, they don't have
it, stuff like that. But usually it's available
now. It's like 2020. Where'd you go? Fremont.
Theirs is a little more recent within the last
two to three years. In 2020, I was going down
to Grand Rapids solely so that I could get same
-day titles. Yeah, so for anybody who doesn't
know, I have a 94 Chevy. It was an extended cab,
long box, heavy half -ton that I've had since
like 2022, something like that. And I originally
was going to do a project with Sienna. We were
going to make it into a daily, threw some 35s
on it. cut some fenders, you know, fixed a bunch
of stuff, fixed the wiring, cleaned up the interior,
and then could not figure out the issue with
it chugging. And I don't know what the fuck was
going on. I tried a lot. What was in my power
at the time, my mechanical power to do. Fuel
lines. Coils? Yep, I checked those. Everything
was good there. I was getting proper cone. I
even replaced the TBI. And nothing seemed to
stop it. Other people pointed to timing. So I
was going to mess with the timing. And then,
you know, Sienna and I got married shortly after
that. And then we got my truck. And honestly,
my truck just came first. So the project truck,
she already had another car, so it was like we
didn't need it, and we couldn't figure out the
problem to drive it anyway, so we just kind of
left it. Long story short, because, yes, that
was a short story, I've been trying to sell it,
and I had it on Marketplace. I had a guy come
look at it, and he's like, yeah, you know, I
want to come in. I think it was, what was it,
Sunday or something? I want to come Sunday, come
look at it. and I was like, okay, like, I got
to get a battery and some gas, and so we spent
the morning getting battery gas and got it started.
I was like, oh, shit, cool. It started, you know,
right up after it pushed some fuel into the lines,
and then, you know, I'd only good just like before,
and I went to go hit the throttle, and no chugging,
no issues. I'm like, oh, what the fuck? So I
put it in drive, slammed down the gas, no issues.
Like, the tires spun because they have pretty
much no tread on them, but it had no, everything
that I had issues with it before stopped. So
I put probably 15, at least 15 gallons of gas
through it already, and I just, I was just, like,
stunned. So, you know, I put it in reverse, rocked
it out of that spot, drove it around the yard,
fucking good to go. And I'm like, what the fuck?
So I stopped for a second, Sienna and I were
just baffled. And I'm like, well, I'm going to
try and put it into four -wheel drive then. They
said the actuator was broke when I bought it,
so I haven't even tried. Put it into four -wheel
drive, four -wheel drive worked. So now I'm sitting
here like, what the fuck? This truck is perfectly
fine now. Now it needs minor work. And obviously,
like... The issue still needs to be addressed.
There's something that's going on. It just didn't
want you to own it. Right. So I took it. I had
some fun with it. Did some donuts in the yard
and stuff. And drove it up and down the fucking
road. And no issues at all. I went like 35, 40.
And put it back into the yard. And right as I
drove it back into the yard. Still had it running.
The guy pulled in. I was like, damn, yeah, that
sounds pretty good. And I'm like, yeah. And he
kind of looks behind me and there's a bunch of
donuts and shit all around. And he's like, my
wife sees the project trucks that I usually buy.
She was actually pretty excited to see that this
one was actually running. And I was like, yeah.
I was like, you know what? It's actually running.
And I don't know what happened. I said, the issues
are gone. So, again, I... I thought it was going
to take longer to get the title transfer, so
that's why I haven't really done it. And, no,
I went in today, got it transferred, got it printed,
so hopefully he'll be by sometime this week to
pick it up, give me my money for it, and get
that one more piece of junk out of there. Hell
yeah. Oh, and, of course, and I told Alex this
too, but Sienna's dad has a... sob sitting in
there the guy came that same day too just coincidentally
and looked at it offered dad scrap price for
it and dad took it so we'll be getting two cars
out of our yard that is the shit i like to hear
yep so i money money would like to get i'd like
to get a crawler body out of my yard that would
be sick scrap yard yeah but i don't have a title
for it that's don't you doesn't not matter if
it's scrap No, if you scrap a car, you have to
have a title for it. Oh. Yeah, you do. I didn't
know that. I thought if it's... Otherwise...
Go ahead, sorry. Otherwise, you have to cut it
into quarters. Oh, shit. We can do that. Let's
shoot it. If you're trying to... Let's say you're
trying to scrap a single cab pickup, you got
to cut it in half front to back and then in half
back to front if you don't have a title for it.
All right, let's get the automatics out. Yeah.
We'll shoot it. Yeah. Listen, we don't have those.
No, I meant like the automatic circular saws
that continually cut. Yeah, duh. This man. Yeah.
If I ever owned anything automatic, it was lost
in a boating accident. Yep. The exact same place
that I dump. batteries to help recharge the electric
eels. Lake Michigan? Yeah. Well, I try not to
do Lake Michigan. I try to get Lake Huron, Erie,
those nastier lakes. Yeah. Yeah. You try to keep
Lake Michigan and Superior clean. Let's aim for
Ontario. No one likes that lake. Ontario? Is
that the one that doesn't touch Michigan? No.
Probably too dirty. Yeah. Who would want that?
Bunch of maple leaves floating around in it.
Fucking disgusting. Gross. I hear that the water,
if you put it in a jug and then pour it out,
it pours out sticky like syrup. Yep, that's how
they make maple syrup. You didn't know that?
They just take the brown water out of Ontario
and boil it. And then boil the toxins out. Yep.
Uh -huh. Yep, that's why Canadian maple syrup
tastes so bad. God, we're going to get shot by
our one Canadian listener. He's going to be like,
these guys hate us. And the truth is, I love
maple syrup, especially Canadian. I like Canadia.
I think it's a cool place. I'd love to do some
overland trips up there. I think right across
the border into Ontario, there's a couple of
really cool places. I think it's a cool place
that is ran by an absolute fucking tyrant. An
hour away. What did you say? Tyrant? I think
it's a cool place. It's ran like Tyrancy. Tyrancy.
You hear who's dating the prime minister now?
Fucking Katy Perry. The ex -prime minister. Isn't
he the ex -prime minister? I thought he was the
current. I could be wrong. No, I get it back
and forth. It's like I see some news outlets
that still talk about True Ducky and then others
that say that there's someone else. I can't get
them straight, dude. He's the former prime minister.
Okay. I can't see him. Yeah, I remember he stepped
down. Yeah, well, rightfully. And I hope Alberta
leaves. Dude, have you seen a picture of him
and Katy Perry together? Yeah. They're the same
fucking person. They're clones. Meant to be.
No, like, oh, my God. You know, we're doing chapter.
No, this is just going to be the album art. Oh,
God. But if Alberta secedes from Canada. and
does its own thing as its own country, then I
think we should all move to Alberta. Dude, I'm
down. Because I don't think Alberta will join
the U .S. I think it'll secede if it does. Ugh.
Ugh. They're literal clones of each other. I
don't know. I think they just had the same facial
surgeon. Same plastic surgeon. Dude. Dude, it's
like almost the same mouth, almost the same eye
shape, same nose. Like, that's creepy shit. Yeah.
Well, you know Hollywood. They just kind of copy
and paste. So, they probably took Trudeau and
copy pasted him onto Carrie Patey. Carrie. Carrie?
Am I stroking? Yes. Carrie. When I ask that to
myself, I say that to see if I am. So, I guess
it is a wrap. Gavin, what did you do last weekend?
Well, you heard part of it, which is why I explained.
Got the truck ready. A guy came by. He was happy.
We're working on that now. I've been talking
to companies again, trying to... Just trying
to work with some companies. I do have my coffee
company. They're sending me some coffee, so I
should have that in tomorrow -ish. And I'm going
to split some, give some to me and CNN Dad. We're
going to try it out, see what we think. Dad's
an avid coffee drinker, so he'll have a good
opinion. And then I'm going to bring some over
for us to try on, like, a Friday. And we're going
to try it as not intended because I'm just going
to assume that, yes, if you soak it overnight.
So I don't know if I updated you on this, Mark,
but it's called Bear Box Brews Coffee. And they
just started releasing it. And basically what
it is is a giant teabag with sustainably sourced
coffee. And you just put it into your, you know,
like, container with water in it. And you set
it out the day before, like, at night. And then
in the morning you have coffee. So if you like
doing iced coffee, that's perfect. If you like
just having coffee in general. And then they
say to, like, they recommend to, like, heat it
up. Heat it up gently so you don't, like, burn
the brew or whatever. But I want to try, you
know, overlanding style. We got a jet boil. We
have water. I want to boil some water. I want
to throw the teabag in there for 10 minutes,
and I want to try and see how that works. And
then I want to try it just cold and stuff too.
I just want to see what we all think about it
because that would take – I mean, I like making
coffee, but I don't love it. I also don't drink
a lot of it either. You know, if that takes a
step out of it and I could just get a, you know,
a box of those and the coffee's really good,
that might be a step. Just to like, you know,
take some things out of the, because I really
only make coffee for Sienna and for other people.
I enjoy it, but when we're, I don't know, when
I have a kid and all the other shit going on
and I still have to make breakfast, it's just
one extra step, so whatever. Coffee is a necessity
part of life. Yeah. I mean, now that I'm getting
away from energy drinks, I might be consuming
more of it, so we'll see. Oh, and Sienna got
me an early Christmas present, so that was cool.
Got me a new multi -tool to replace my kind of
broken one, and it's beautiful. I'm obsessed
with it, and I think, like, it's, I don't know,
like, user bias, but I love it, man. It's gorgeous.
It's the Leatherman. Wave Alpha, I think it is.
It just came out with it. It's really comfortable.
It's way heavier than the other one. Like, it
just feels, like, heavier. I'll have to bring
it by, but... That one's got, like, a plastic
outside, right? I don't... I think it's... Is
it G10? What do they call that? I don't know
what they call the outside handle. Like, it feels...
Like, it's plastic, I think. I don't know. I
don't have a magnet. Do I have a magnet? Yeah,
I do. Yeah, I think I'm only getting magnet from
the edge. I'm pretty sure it's plastic. It looks
sick, dude. Yeah. And the customizations that
she did are, like, they're peak. I don't know
if you get it. I think. Huckleberry's Outdoor
Adventures she got on the one side of the blade.
So that was pretty cool. And then she got like
topographic on the other. I don't know. It's
really cool. I really wanted a multi -tool scissors
because I use scissors more often just for everyday
things and even like camping. So like camping
you use like scissors for paracord and stuff.
And these come with like a larger pair of scissors
than normal. like in normal multi -tools, like
a large handle. So that's really nice. I really
use multi -tools as a really large percentage
of my camp tool, whether it's cutting steak on
my plate and not cleaning it or whittling, whatever.
I am not necessarily a Leatherman fan. I think
that they make a pretty decent tool. It's just
not my favorite one. Yeah. But the Leatherman
Signal, oh, my God, dude, that thing is fucking
gorgeous. Yeah. So, yeah, I got that this weekend.
I was really excited. I still, you know, I like
my old one. And there's technically nothing wrong
with it. Like there's a spring broke on it, so
it opens funny. And the knife tip is snapped
off. But it's going to go into my spares, my
spare equipment in the truck. And because whoever
knows when you need some pliers. Which is nice
because on this one they have the removable teeth
or cutters on the pliers. So you could take those
out. It's got a bit driver. which has a double
-sided bit. I didn't know that. Has a quick release
for the clip, like the pocket clip. Quick releases
on and off. I didn't know that. I didn't look
into it much. It had scissors, and it looked
really cool. And that's kind of what I went with.
And it turned out to be much better. So, yeah,
overall, really happy. Now I have to find her
something, so I'm probably just going to buy
her a Kindle. Call it a day. Get her a Kobo instead
of a Kindle. Is that like a knife? No. It's a
variation of the Kindle. It's more open. So if
you get PDFs or EPUBs from somewhere else, you
can load them up without all the hackery that
you need to with a Kindle. And you can get a
colored one for less than what? uh kindle costs
yeah i'll kind of talk to her and feel it out
a little bit more i'm a little bit more logical
like and she loves books like she has a big ass
tablet she could read audible or on the kindle
app or whatever and she doesn't like use it she
barely uses it on her phone so it's like to me
like a kindle's pointless but if that's what
she wants dude i i also have a tablet And I still
use my Kobo for reading instead of the tablet.
Yeah, just to me, I don't get it. But, you know,
I'm an audiobook guy, so. I do both. The Kobo
also is a 3 .5 millimeter jack for playing audiobooks.
Yeah. So, I mean, it would be cool, and I'm sure
she would love it. So, it's kind of one of those
things that, like, I didn't need this multi -tool,
and she's been telling me she was going to get
one for, like, a year and a half now. So. She
finally did, and I'm just like, you know what?
Whatever you want that's about the same price,
just get it. Or I'll just get it, whatever. I
don't really care if it's... Because like I said,
I didn't need it. I just wanted it. We don't
pick the... Anymore. We don't pick up a lot of
we wants anymore. Right. You know what I mean?
I've been... researching completely off topic
i'm just thinking about it because multi -tools
yeah um i've been researching using black oxide
to color my uh my multi -tool yeah because you
have the rocks on right yep yeah that's pretty
cool too um oh yeah in our rap since we were
talking about that uh i met up with alex for
a little bit so he could help me diagnose my
truck it's been making weird clanking sounds
and so i drove over and we hung out for a little
bit we determined that we're pretty darn sure
it's brakes and then we compared multi -tools
and talked about that of course for another what
30 minutes um because this multi -tool is pretty
cool too the roxon um and they're affordable
like that's that's also a really cool price point
and you know what you can't really compare the
roxon to like your wave alpha because they're
a completely different thing yeah the roxon's
the roxon's more comparable to like uh the you
know the the gerber bridge or whatever Leatherman's
other one is. I can't think of the name of it
right now. Yeah, to be able to exchange whatever
tools in and out that you want instead of having
to buy a different tool is really cool. So, yeah,
we talked about that, and then I've been debating
diesel heaters for a while, looking them up,
and he just got his new diesel heater in, so
we hooked that up and listened to that and felt
the heat and stuff like that. That's pretty cool.
And it's pretty efficient, I would say. Like,
to take out of the box, like, pretty much comes
right out of the box ready. You just have to
put a couple things on and fill it up. Really
just the exhaust? They say just the exhaust.
Right. I wasn't running it without an air filter,
so I added that. Yeah. So, you know, it was funny.
I was just doing that, and then once they got
home, I started looking at more diesel heaters
because I'm going to get one here pretty soon.
Like if I sell the truck, I will buy one for
us so that we are ready because I also want to
use it in the house if power goes out. And so
there's a company called LF Bros, and they have
a diesel heater that's like almost identical.
to yours if not identical and is yeah literally
handles and all i'm literally reading about it
right now and it's the exact same heater yeah
so i think the only difference from the one that
i seen versus yours is they have like disconnect
um like remotes and disconnect uh like screen
like you could pull it off or whatever Mine too.
Oh, okay. I didn't know that because I don't
think we pulled yours out other than the one.
No. Mine has a remote and it has a screen that's
removable. Yeah, so I was looking at that and
then they have like a pro version and this and
that. But this is the example of why you should
be like looking up your products because I noticed
this right away by looking at there's two carrying
handles on the top that are like chrome. and
it's a box and i was like dude this is identical
to alex and as i was looking at it comparing
them side by side i'm like oh yeah it pretty
much is um and they added like 150 dollars onto
it for their brand yeah it's literally it's the
exact same thing so What's the technical term
with all pretty much the same thing, just copy
and paste? White label. White label. Thank you.
Yep. So I was kind of taking a look at this.
It was funny because as I was looking, people
mentioned 4x4 Colorado's diesel heater, which
was the – and even someone – it's actually one
of the big overlanders that reviewed this 4x4
Colorado one. Again, everybody knows they're
bankrupt now probably for this reason. This heater
that they have is the exact same as another brand
heater, too. So, I mean, a lot of these are white
-label heaters, so try not to fall for that Overland
tax. Do some looking, and you'll find it. I don't
think it's... Now, all that being said, if you've
got one that's based out of the U .S., support
them because you've also got the possibility
that they have one that's not the same might
have better internals because a lot of times
these chinese companies right so uh american
company teams up with them makes a product chinese
company rips it off at a cheaper price point
but they it's not the same material it's not
the same product it's just looks similar yeah
so it's always good to do your uh your research
on it in like And if that means like emailing
the manufacturer and going, hey, who actually
makes your product, then do that because we've
done it. We've done it for a couple of different
products. And again, like Alex said, but then
the other option is that people get on like Alibaba
and they say, hey, this is what I want. This
is the branding I want on it. I want you to use
higher quality parts. And then they just do that.
And it is the same thing as. Your cheaper $100
options, you're just getting it for $150 more.
So it is important to do your research on that,
make sure you know what's going on. So, yeah,
I just want to talk about that real quick because
as I was looking at the LF Bros one, I'm like,
this is the same fucking thing. Like, what is
going on? So I do hear that H -Calorie, their
U .S. division has went around asking. uh overlanders
in the space to send them the list of changes
that they would make or that they would recommend
to make a more overland uh friendly diesel heater
and they have been making changes um based on
that to their not their low line ones but the
um but from what i hear like they're mid like
150 ish and up so like they have one That's kind
of similar to the LF Bros one, and that's for
like $299. It's an 8 -kilowatt. It's got a 7
.5 -liter tank in it. So, I mean, it's got altitude
mode, which a lot of diesel heaters have already.
But it's just one of those things where... Yeah,
do some research. I've already spent probably
eight hours on YouTube watching different videos
and how. I wonder what the difference between
my $100 one and their $160 one is because mine's
an 8 kilowatt. Yeah. With smart altitude. Yeah.
And that's the thing is like H calorie and what
was yours again? Mine's an H calorie. Oh, yeah.
Okay. But then there's like bougie RV, which
looks kind of the same, but it's got pretty much
just a different shell. Like you got to think
that probably a lot of them are the same internals.
H -Calorie does have a $220 -ish one that's got,
it's like a briefcase style, so it's a little
more waterproof. Personally, I'm not too worried
about waterproofness because the diesel heater,
when it's running, it's going to dry itself out
anyway. The only thing it won't is you need to
make sure that the exhaust is either straight
out or pointed down. Otherwise, it builds up
moisture and then floods it. I mean, my old one,
I have the exhaust pointed straight in the air,
and I've never had a problem, but they say it
can happen. Yeah, that suitcase one is the one
that I think I might go with. It's going to be
between that one and the $299 one, which... I'm
not really sure about. But it's supposed to be,
like, IP6 waterproof or whatever, and the ports
are moved a little bit on it so that they don't,
like, interfere with each other, the exhaust
and stuff. So I'm curious about it. I don't know
if I'm so curious that I'm willing to spend another
$80 or so on it. Is that the $299 one? Yeah,
it's the... All -in -one toolbox, max, diesel,
parking heater with app control. It's pretty
similar to yours. It's the same as mine. The
heater element itself, like the box that does
it, it's literally mine. Well, and that's the
thing is, like, how do we know? Like, I need
to get a hold of these guys and get, like, a
parts list. So I can cross -reference what is
actually the same, what's different. That's the
issue. I can sit here and cross -reference this
one right now. The shell is different. Yeah,
of course. The heater itself, literally the same
model. You can tell by the output. It has a different
controller, but a similar controller. The exhaust,
exactly the same as mine. Yeah, the exhaust.
The intake. intake exactly the same as mine well
obviously it's the same same main unit i'm curious
to the sound deadening and if the what i mean
like what the difference is between them because
all again all these diesel heaters use the exact
same heater box there's only a couple of factories
that make them they use the exact same parts
so when you buy a diesel heater don't spend more
than like a hundred dollars on it unless you
need some fancy packaging but you don't even
need that just get the cheapest option because
they're all the same product yeah mostly the
only difference is the outer casing other than
that the internals are literally the same yeah
i think i'm a little more skeptic on like i understand
that they are the full the the same core but
obviously there's got to be something else internally
different to make let's say one way quieter than
the other Because that would be out pretty quick.
It's not as exhaust if you don't have the exhaust.
Yeah, all diesel heaters have the same volume.
They all operate the same way. They're all the
same mechanics. They all sound the same. The
only sound on a diesel heater is the exhaust.
No, I mean, there are people putting side -by
-sides with, what do they call those? The things
that measure sound decibels. Dude. Some make
different, or some are louder than others. It's
all in the muffler. They're all the same product.
We're just going to have to agree to disagree
on this. I agree that the internals are very
similar. I've built, they're all the same. I've
built a few of them. I've bought a couple of
them. They're all the same. Yeah. Like I said,
I would agree to disagree on it. And I'd just
say to do your research. And look for one, obviously
one that's cheaper, especially if you don't like,
I'm not going to be doing it a lot. So I'm not
going to go and spend $1 ,000 on the Overland
branded ones. But because they have $800 ones,
$1 ,000 ones, and that just makes no sense for
someone who's not getting paid for one to do
it. So that's at least my take on that. But where
are we at? I think we're at. Probably. Yeah,
we're at our 30 minutes. We're at our 30 minutes.
There's our wrapped slash diesel slash all the
fun stuff. Yeah. No, you're wrong. There's nothing
to disagree on. They're all the same product.
I disagree. No, I'm not done yet. No. See, there's
nothing to disagree on. They are the same product.
What makes them quieter is the muffler. I disagree
that. There is no difference in internal shielding
or rerouting that makes them different. I think
that there is a difference. I've seen the insides
in some of these. It's only the casing, dude.
It's only the casing. Because the diesel heater
itself doesn't even need a casing to run. No.
So the outside shroud on the heater component
itself can be plastic. It can be aluminum. And
some companies opt for aluminum, which supposedly
makes it quieter and better with... Let me see.
It sounds like they're just trying to make you
think it's a better product because literally
the only thing that makes noise is the exhaust,
but you don't have the muffler in it. Yeah. Well,
I definitely hear the fan, like the pushing out.
And I've heard multiple diesel heaters side -by
-side out camping, and they have different noise
outputs. So, yes, I mean, like, obviously, H
-Calorie is going to probably use all the same
exhausts because that's kind of the cheapest
option, cheapest thing to do. Some of them upgrade
that. Now. There is a way to get a quieter one,
which I didn't mention, is there is a brushless
one. If you can get a brushless diesel heater,
they're a lot quieter. But you're looking at
spending $200 for a bare kit or up to like $400
for an all -in -one. Yeah, I guess this goes
back to the same debate with any really white
label companies. Like the same Chinese manufacturers
that build the compressors and everything else.
I personally think that these companies put different
internals to spec the product the way that they
want it and keep the price competitive. And there's
a lot of compressors out there that I think are
pretty much the same. and there's just a few
pieces on the inside that make up the difference
so that that's more of what i'm trying to what
i think is that a lot of these are comparable
a lot of them do have a lot of the same pieces
but i would like to know what makes them different
for let's say lf bros if i can get like a parts
list versus h calorie part list versus uh bougie
rv versus the other so like i know they're similar
well bougie rv is just straight white labeled
they don't do anything custom i know um i i've
got some partial part list here for you for lf
bros yeah depending on which one you buy well
i can read it to you or i can look at it and
tell you um depending on which lf bros you buy
they've got one that's got a brushless fan the
the thing with the left bros is they use a different
controller um That's the big thing with diesel
heaters. All the controllers are different, and
that's what makes the difference. But it doesn't
change sound. It just changes features. Yeah.
But it's all the same product other than the
controller. Except for this guy. This guy would
be nice and quiet because he is brushless. And
that is your big difference, is if you find a
brushless one... That's the only way to make
him quieter. Gavin's muted. Whoops, sorry. Yeah,
I've seen some review videos where they apparently,
and I'm putting air quotations around this because
I know it'll be refuted, but that apparently
they talk to the... owners of the the company
that sell these aftermarket not their white label
obviously but they they say they have different
internals they say that there are things that
they do differently that make them better than
the typical amazon white label so this is why
i'm curious so here you go gavin don't buy a
diesel heater buy this gasoline heater oh Oh,
yeah, here you go. What the fuck? It says gasoline
diesel parking water heater. What the hell is
this thing? You're right. I just saw gasoline.
What even is this thing? I don't even know. When
you start the parking heater, it heats the coolant
in the water tank. It transmits the warm air
to the cabin through a fan. Oh, here we go. I
got one for you guys. This one's self -powered.
Oh, my God. I see that one. Just for the listeners,
by the way, me and Alex arguing isn't us mad
at each other or anything. We debate this quite
a bit. Oh, dude, I'm pissed at you. I hate you.
You're the worst. I just want everyone to know
there's no hard feelings between our differing
opinions. That's kind of why we... like having
each other on here is because we both have different
opinions on it. It's good to have that. This
self -powered one, this one would be quiet. That
muffler will make it quiet. Are those 18650s?
If I could use my vape batteries to charge this,
I'd be sick. They look more like 21700s, which
are also a vape battery, or 26650s. I can't really
tell what they are. That's cool, though. But
if you want a quiet one, that kind of muffler
is what you need. Oh, yeah. Oh, damn. That's
a suppressor. Yeah. That's like a can right there,
dude. That's honestly a pretty stout little unit.
Yeah. $639, I hope so. Ooh, $795 if you get the
storage bags, which are also sick. Yeah. We know
Alex likes his storage bags. No, it's really
what it comes down to is it's all packaging,
right? You can build something better than most
of these because you're going to put more expensive
parts in than what they will. Yeah. Because you're
not having to deal with the markup. All right,
that's 40 minutes. We'll call it there. 40 minutes,
calling it.