WEBVTT 00:00:06.830 --> 00:00:09.550 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:09.550 --> 00:00:11.810 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:12.050 --> 00:00:14.910 tank camping to rock lending, and all things 00:00:14.910 --> 00:00:19.129 to do with the outdoors. You know, this is a 00:00:19.129 --> 00:00:20.710 wrap, right? We're going to talk about what we 00:00:20.710 --> 00:00:23.289 did, what we had planned. But I just got to bitch 00:00:23.289 --> 00:00:27.289 for a second. Okay. So, I have baby birds coming 00:00:27.289 --> 00:00:29.070 tomorrow. They're supposed to be here at 8 a 00:00:29.070 --> 00:00:35.189 .m. I get a call at, let's say, 6. And they told 00:00:35.189 --> 00:00:39.469 me that they're now coming at 3 a .m. Now, that's 00:00:39.469 --> 00:00:43.469 already annoying, right? Hmm. But as you guys 00:00:43.469 --> 00:00:46.229 know, it is Tuesday night, and we're about to 00:00:46.229 --> 00:00:50.649 get a massive snowstorm. Tonight. Yeah, they're 00:00:50.649 --> 00:00:52.250 probably trying to beat the snowstorm is what 00:00:52.250 --> 00:00:55.570 they're doing. We're getting somewhere between 00:00:55.570 --> 00:01:01.109 4 and 5 inches before 3 a .m. I have now talked 00:01:01.109 --> 00:01:04.280 to the driver, who had no idea. That we were 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:11.900 getting a storm tonight. Oh. Yeah. So, that's 00:01:11.900 --> 00:01:17.219 my day. Yeah. You know what I found out today? 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:22.739 What's that? Secretary of State now does same 00:01:22.739 --> 00:01:27.060 -day title transfer printouts at house. I did 00:01:27.060 --> 00:01:29.560 not know that. They have done that? Oh, like 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:34.819 at your house? No, like in store. They have done 00:01:34.819 --> 00:01:38.939 that since 2020 in most locations. What? Fremont, 00:01:38.980 --> 00:01:41.579 I think Fremont just started doing it like within 00:01:41.579 --> 00:01:43.959 the last two or three years. I think they just 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:48.980 started recently when the car went through their 00:01:48.980 --> 00:01:53.780 fucking lobby, right? Most of them have been 00:01:53.780 --> 00:01:56.540 doing it since 2020. I only know that because 00:01:56.540 --> 00:02:01.980 I flipped like 30 cars in 2020. Because I've 00:02:01.980 --> 00:02:05.500 had... title transfers and stuff before, and 00:02:05.500 --> 00:02:07.500 they've always been mailed. This is the first 00:02:07.500 --> 00:02:09.580 time I ever had the option to just get it instantly. 00:02:10.460 --> 00:02:14.080 It's not always available. It's usually available. 00:02:14.539 --> 00:02:18.819 Lame. If they run out of titles, they don't have 00:02:18.819 --> 00:02:21.520 it, stuff like that. But usually it's available 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:25.080 now. It's like 2020. Where'd you go? Fremont. 00:02:27.099 --> 00:02:29.000 Theirs is a little more recent within the last 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:33.360 two to three years. In 2020, I was going down 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:36.560 to Grand Rapids solely so that I could get same 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:39.520 -day titles. Yeah, so for anybody who doesn't 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:43.840 know, I have a 94 Chevy. It was an extended cab, 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:47.860 long box, heavy half -ton that I've had since 00:02:47.860 --> 00:02:53.560 like 2022, something like that. And I originally 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.840 was going to do a project with Sienna. We were 00:02:56.840 --> 00:03:00.060 going to make it into a daily, threw some 35s 00:03:00.060 --> 00:03:03.550 on it. cut some fenders, you know, fixed a bunch 00:03:03.550 --> 00:03:06.389 of stuff, fixed the wiring, cleaned up the interior, 00:03:06.610 --> 00:03:10.710 and then could not figure out the issue with 00:03:10.710 --> 00:03:13.370 it chugging. And I don't know what the fuck was 00:03:13.370 --> 00:03:18.270 going on. I tried a lot. What was in my power 00:03:18.270 --> 00:03:22.319 at the time, my mechanical power to do. Fuel 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:27.060 lines. Coils? Yep, I checked those. Everything 00:03:27.060 --> 00:03:30.340 was good there. I was getting proper cone. I 00:03:30.340 --> 00:03:34.319 even replaced the TBI. And nothing seemed to 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.620 stop it. Other people pointed to timing. So I 00:03:38.620 --> 00:03:40.180 was going to mess with the timing. And then, 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.280 you know, Sienna and I got married shortly after 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:46.639 that. And then we got my truck. And honestly, 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.680 my truck just came first. So the project truck, 00:03:50.740 --> 00:03:52.780 she already had another car, so it was like we 00:03:52.780 --> 00:03:54.319 didn't need it, and we couldn't figure out the 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:56.379 problem to drive it anyway, so we just kind of 00:03:56.379 --> 00:04:00.000 left it. Long story short, because, yes, that 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.800 was a short story, I've been trying to sell it, 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.439 and I had it on Marketplace. I had a guy come 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:10.759 look at it, and he's like, yeah, you know, I 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.319 want to come in. I think it was, what was it, 00:04:13.340 --> 00:04:15.939 Sunday or something? I want to come Sunday, come 00:04:15.939 --> 00:04:19.250 look at it. and I was like, okay, like, I got 00:04:19.250 --> 00:04:22.069 to get a battery and some gas, and so we spent 00:04:22.069 --> 00:04:26.029 the morning getting battery gas and got it started. 00:04:26.329 --> 00:04:28.670 I was like, oh, shit, cool. It started, you know, 00:04:28.670 --> 00:04:31.470 right up after it pushed some fuel into the lines, 00:04:31.550 --> 00:04:34.750 and then, you know, I'd only good just like before, 00:04:34.930 --> 00:04:37.490 and I went to go hit the throttle, and no chugging, 00:04:37.509 --> 00:04:41.889 no issues. I'm like, oh, what the fuck? So I 00:04:41.889 --> 00:04:45.829 put it in drive, slammed down the gas, no issues. 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:49.360 Like, the tires spun because they have pretty 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:52.519 much no tread on them, but it had no, everything 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:58.079 that I had issues with it before stopped. So 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:01.860 I put probably 15, at least 15 gallons of gas 00:05:01.860 --> 00:05:06.980 through it already, and I just, I was just, like, 00:05:06.980 --> 00:05:10.480 stunned. So, you know, I put it in reverse, rocked 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.319 it out of that spot, drove it around the yard, 00:05:13.540 --> 00:05:16.560 fucking good to go. And I'm like, what the fuck? 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.019 So I stopped for a second, Sienna and I were 00:05:19.019 --> 00:05:21.459 just baffled. And I'm like, well, I'm going to 00:05:21.459 --> 00:05:23.959 try and put it into four -wheel drive then. They 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:25.879 said the actuator was broke when I bought it, 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.259 so I haven't even tried. Put it into four -wheel 00:05:28.259 --> 00:05:31.300 drive, four -wheel drive worked. So now I'm sitting 00:05:31.300 --> 00:05:34.259 here like, what the fuck? This truck is perfectly 00:05:34.259 --> 00:05:40.620 fine now. Now it needs minor work. And obviously, 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.680 like... The issue still needs to be addressed. 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:48.560 There's something that's going on. It just didn't 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:52.339 want you to own it. Right. So I took it. I had 00:05:52.339 --> 00:05:54.639 some fun with it. Did some donuts in the yard 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:57.720 and stuff. And drove it up and down the fucking 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.620 road. And no issues at all. I went like 35, 40. 00:06:01.819 --> 00:06:07.720 And put it back into the yard. And right as I 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:10.129 drove it back into the yard. Still had it running. 00:06:10.129 --> 00:06:12.910 The guy pulled in. I was like, damn, yeah, that 00:06:12.910 --> 00:06:14.829 sounds pretty good. And I'm like, yeah. And he 00:06:14.829 --> 00:06:16.550 kind of looks behind me and there's a bunch of 00:06:16.550 --> 00:06:20.750 donuts and shit all around. And he's like, my 00:06:20.750 --> 00:06:24.730 wife sees the project trucks that I usually buy. 00:06:24.829 --> 00:06:27.629 She was actually pretty excited to see that this 00:06:27.629 --> 00:06:30.290 one was actually running. And I was like, yeah. 00:06:30.470 --> 00:06:33.230 I was like, you know what? It's actually running. 00:06:33.329 --> 00:06:35.250 And I don't know what happened. I said, the issues 00:06:35.250 --> 00:06:39.560 are gone. So, again, I... I thought it was going 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.899 to take longer to get the title transfer, so 00:06:41.899 --> 00:06:45.480 that's why I haven't really done it. And, no, 00:06:45.620 --> 00:06:48.199 I went in today, got it transferred, got it printed, 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:52.139 so hopefully he'll be by sometime this week to 00:06:52.139 --> 00:06:56.019 pick it up, give me my money for it, and get 00:06:56.019 --> 00:06:59.540 that one more piece of junk out of there. Hell 00:06:59.540 --> 00:07:02.899 yeah. Oh, and, of course, and I told Alex this 00:07:02.899 --> 00:07:07.209 too, but Sienna's dad has a... sob sitting in 00:07:07.209 --> 00:07:10.329 there the guy came that same day too just coincidentally 00:07:10.329 --> 00:07:14.370 and looked at it offered dad scrap price for 00:07:14.370 --> 00:07:16.970 it and dad took it so we'll be getting two cars 00:07:16.970 --> 00:07:21.610 out of our yard that is the shit i like to hear 00:07:21.610 --> 00:07:25.170 yep so i money money would like to get i'd like 00:07:25.170 --> 00:07:27.089 to get a crawler body out of my yard that would 00:07:27.089 --> 00:07:31.250 be sick scrap yard yeah but i don't have a title 00:07:31.250 --> 00:07:34.470 for it that's don't you doesn't not matter if 00:07:34.470 --> 00:07:37.939 it's scrap No, if you scrap a car, you have to 00:07:37.939 --> 00:07:41.560 have a title for it. Oh. Yeah, you do. I didn't 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.060 know that. I thought if it's... Otherwise... 00:07:44.060 --> 00:07:47.100 Go ahead, sorry. Otherwise, you have to cut it 00:07:47.100 --> 00:07:51.759 into quarters. Oh, shit. We can do that. Let's 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:55.100 shoot it. If you're trying to... Let's say you're 00:07:55.100 --> 00:07:56.959 trying to scrap a single cab pickup, you got 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.480 to cut it in half front to back and then in half 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:02.420 back to front if you don't have a title for it. 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:07.300 All right, let's get the automatics out. Yeah. 00:08:07.339 --> 00:08:12.420 We'll shoot it. Yeah. Listen, we don't have those. 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:17.060 No, I meant like the automatic circular saws 00:08:17.060 --> 00:08:20.879 that continually cut. Yeah, duh. This man. Yeah. 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:27.519 If I ever owned anything automatic, it was lost 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:30.480 in a boating accident. Yep. The exact same place 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.759 that I dump. batteries to help recharge the electric 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:38.980 eels. Lake Michigan? Yeah. Well, I try not to 00:08:38.980 --> 00:08:42.580 do Lake Michigan. I try to get Lake Huron, Erie, 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:47.139 those nastier lakes. Yeah. Yeah. You try to keep 00:08:47.139 --> 00:08:51.240 Lake Michigan and Superior clean. Let's aim for 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:55.179 Ontario. No one likes that lake. Ontario? Is 00:08:55.179 --> 00:08:57.840 that the one that doesn't touch Michigan? No. 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.080 Probably too dirty. Yeah. Who would want that? 00:09:01.450 --> 00:09:03.289 Bunch of maple leaves floating around in it. 00:09:04.110 --> 00:09:08.610 Fucking disgusting. Gross. I hear that the water, 00:09:08.669 --> 00:09:11.210 if you put it in a jug and then pour it out, 00:09:11.250 --> 00:09:14.070 it pours out sticky like syrup. Yep, that's how 00:09:14.070 --> 00:09:15.610 they make maple syrup. You didn't know that? 00:09:16.009 --> 00:09:18.690 They just take the brown water out of Ontario 00:09:18.690 --> 00:09:21.049 and boil it. And then boil the toxins out. Yep. 00:09:21.090 --> 00:09:23.370 Uh -huh. Yep, that's why Canadian maple syrup 00:09:23.370 --> 00:09:29.320 tastes so bad. God, we're going to get shot by 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.340 our one Canadian listener. He's going to be like, 00:09:31.419 --> 00:09:34.240 these guys hate us. And the truth is, I love 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.120 maple syrup, especially Canadian. I like Canadia. 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:40.340 I think it's a cool place. I'd love to do some 00:09:40.340 --> 00:09:43.100 overland trips up there. I think right across 00:09:43.100 --> 00:09:45.620 the border into Ontario, there's a couple of 00:09:45.620 --> 00:09:45.659 really cool places. I think it's a cool place 00:09:45.659 --> 00:09:47.720 that is ran by an absolute fucking tyrant. An 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:53.299 hour away. What did you say? Tyrant? I think 00:09:53.299 --> 00:09:57.139 it's a cool place. It's ran like Tyrancy. Tyrancy. 00:09:57.580 --> 00:10:00.100 You hear who's dating the prime minister now? 00:10:01.340 --> 00:10:03.919 Fucking Katy Perry. The ex -prime minister. Isn't 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:05.799 he the ex -prime minister? I thought he was the 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:07.940 current. I could be wrong. No, I get it back 00:10:07.940 --> 00:10:10.899 and forth. It's like I see some news outlets 00:10:10.899 --> 00:10:14.639 that still talk about True Ducky and then others 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:17.279 that say that there's someone else. I can't get 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:20.360 them straight, dude. He's the former prime minister. 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.759 Okay. I can't see him. Yeah, I remember he stepped 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.220 down. Yeah, well, rightfully. And I hope Alberta 00:10:28.220 --> 00:10:31.460 leaves. Dude, have you seen a picture of him 00:10:31.460 --> 00:10:34.659 and Katy Perry together? Yeah. They're the same 00:10:34.659 --> 00:10:37.779 fucking person. They're clones. Meant to be. 00:10:39.259 --> 00:10:42.700 No, like, oh, my God. You know, we're doing chapter. 00:10:42.980 --> 00:10:45.240 No, this is just going to be the album art. Oh, 00:10:45.259 --> 00:10:52.330 God. But if Alberta secedes from Canada. and 00:10:52.330 --> 00:10:55.870 does its own thing as its own country, then I 00:10:55.870 --> 00:11:00.330 think we should all move to Alberta. Dude, I'm 00:11:00.330 --> 00:11:02.929 down. Because I don't think Alberta will join 00:11:02.929 --> 00:11:06.570 the U .S. I think it'll secede if it does. Ugh. 00:11:09.029 --> 00:11:13.789 Ugh. They're literal clones of each other. I 00:11:13.789 --> 00:11:15.750 don't know. I think they just had the same facial 00:11:15.750 --> 00:11:20.850 surgeon. Same plastic surgeon. Dude. Dude, it's 00:11:20.850 --> 00:11:23.830 like almost the same mouth, almost the same eye 00:11:23.830 --> 00:11:27.750 shape, same nose. Like, that's creepy shit. Yeah. 00:11:28.690 --> 00:11:31.470 Well, you know Hollywood. They just kind of copy 00:11:31.470 --> 00:11:37.490 and paste. So, they probably took Trudeau and 00:11:37.490 --> 00:11:40.970 copy pasted him onto Carrie Patey. Carrie. Carrie? 00:11:41.169 --> 00:11:47.110 Am I stroking? Yes. Carrie. When I ask that to 00:11:47.110 --> 00:11:54.129 myself, I say that to see if I am. So, I guess 00:11:54.129 --> 00:11:57.450 it is a wrap. Gavin, what did you do last weekend? 00:11:57.850 --> 00:12:00.070 Well, you heard part of it, which is why I explained. 00:12:01.129 --> 00:12:04.169 Got the truck ready. A guy came by. He was happy. 00:12:04.389 --> 00:12:08.070 We're working on that now. I've been talking 00:12:08.070 --> 00:12:12.879 to companies again, trying to... Just trying 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.639 to work with some companies. I do have my coffee 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.600 company. They're sending me some coffee, so I 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:25.440 should have that in tomorrow -ish. And I'm going 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:28.659 to split some, give some to me and CNN Dad. We're 00:12:28.659 --> 00:12:31.019 going to try it out, see what we think. Dad's 00:12:31.019 --> 00:12:33.639 an avid coffee drinker, so he'll have a good 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.299 opinion. And then I'm going to bring some over 00:12:36.299 --> 00:12:40.549 for us to try on, like, a Friday. And we're going 00:12:40.549 --> 00:12:46.210 to try it as not intended because I'm just going 00:12:46.210 --> 00:12:48.269 to assume that, yes, if you soak it overnight. 00:12:48.370 --> 00:12:50.629 So I don't know if I updated you on this, Mark, 00:12:50.649 --> 00:12:56.269 but it's called Bear Box Brews Coffee. And they 00:12:56.269 --> 00:12:58.929 just started releasing it. And basically what 00:12:58.929 --> 00:13:04.110 it is is a giant teabag with sustainably sourced 00:13:04.110 --> 00:13:08.320 coffee. And you just put it into your, you know, 00:13:08.379 --> 00:13:12.039 like, container with water in it. And you set 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:15.179 it out the day before, like, at night. And then 00:13:15.179 --> 00:13:17.240 in the morning you have coffee. So if you like 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.899 doing iced coffee, that's perfect. If you like 00:13:19.899 --> 00:13:22.639 just having coffee in general. And then they 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.580 say to, like, they recommend to, like, heat it 00:13:24.580 --> 00:13:28.500 up. Heat it up gently so you don't, like, burn 00:13:28.500 --> 00:13:31.519 the brew or whatever. But I want to try, you 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:34.539 know, overlanding style. We got a jet boil. We 00:13:34.539 --> 00:13:37.259 have water. I want to boil some water. I want 00:13:37.259 --> 00:13:38.919 to throw the teabag in there for 10 minutes, 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:44.740 and I want to try and see how that works. And 00:13:44.740 --> 00:13:48.919 then I want to try it just cold and stuff too. 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:50.860 I just want to see what we all think about it 00:13:50.860 --> 00:13:54.419 because that would take – I mean, I like making 00:13:54.419 --> 00:13:58.419 coffee, but I don't love it. I also don't drink 00:13:58.419 --> 00:14:01.419 a lot of it either. You know, if that takes a 00:14:01.419 --> 00:14:03.240 step out of it and I could just get a, you know, 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.460 a box of those and the coffee's really good, 00:14:05.659 --> 00:14:09.039 that might be a step. Just to like, you know, 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.960 take some things out of the, because I really 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.139 only make coffee for Sienna and for other people. 00:14:15.980 --> 00:14:20.519 I enjoy it, but when we're, I don't know, when 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.399 I have a kid and all the other shit going on 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:23.799 and I still have to make breakfast, it's just 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:28.929 one extra step, so whatever. Coffee is a necessity 00:14:28.929 --> 00:14:31.230 part of life. Yeah. I mean, now that I'm getting 00:14:31.230 --> 00:14:33.090 away from energy drinks, I might be consuming 00:14:33.090 --> 00:14:37.210 more of it, so we'll see. Oh, and Sienna got 00:14:37.210 --> 00:14:39.789 me an early Christmas present, so that was cool. 00:14:39.929 --> 00:14:42.769 Got me a new multi -tool to replace my kind of 00:14:42.769 --> 00:14:46.029 broken one, and it's beautiful. I'm obsessed 00:14:46.029 --> 00:14:50.149 with it, and I think, like, it's, I don't know, 00:14:50.190 --> 00:14:53.690 like, user bias, but I love it, man. It's gorgeous. 00:14:53.970 --> 00:14:57.220 It's the Leatherman. Wave Alpha, I think it is. 00:14:57.379 --> 00:15:00.620 It just came out with it. It's really comfortable. 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:04.460 It's way heavier than the other one. Like, it 00:15:04.460 --> 00:15:07.139 just feels, like, heavier. I'll have to bring 00:15:07.139 --> 00:15:10.860 it by, but... That one's got, like, a plastic 00:15:10.860 --> 00:15:16.220 outside, right? I don't... I think it's... Is 00:15:16.220 --> 00:15:19.700 it G10? What do they call that? I don't know 00:15:19.700 --> 00:15:24.039 what they call the outside handle. Like, it feels... 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.200 Like, it's plastic, I think. I don't know. I 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.419 don't have a magnet. Do I have a magnet? Yeah, 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:40.460 I do. Yeah, I think I'm only getting magnet from 00:15:40.460 --> 00:15:45.340 the edge. I'm pretty sure it's plastic. It looks 00:15:45.340 --> 00:15:48.559 sick, dude. Yeah. And the customizations that 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:53.299 she did are, like, they're peak. I don't know 00:15:53.299 --> 00:15:55.299 if you get it. I think. Huckleberry's Outdoor 00:15:55.299 --> 00:15:57.220 Adventures she got on the one side of the blade. 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:01.899 So that was pretty cool. And then she got like 00:16:01.899 --> 00:16:04.759 topographic on the other. I don't know. It's 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:07.179 really cool. I really wanted a multi -tool scissors 00:16:07.179 --> 00:16:10.759 because I use scissors more often just for everyday 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:15.000 things and even like camping. So like camping 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.440 you use like scissors for paracord and stuff. 00:16:17.820 --> 00:16:20.919 And these come with like a larger pair of scissors 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:24.370 than normal. like in normal multi -tools, like 00:16:24.370 --> 00:16:29.649 a large handle. So that's really nice. I really 00:16:29.649 --> 00:16:34.370 use multi -tools as a really large percentage 00:16:34.370 --> 00:16:37.710 of my camp tool, whether it's cutting steak on 00:16:37.710 --> 00:16:43.590 my plate and not cleaning it or whittling, whatever. 00:16:44.690 --> 00:16:48.230 I am not necessarily a Leatherman fan. I think 00:16:48.230 --> 00:16:50.710 that they make a pretty decent tool. It's just 00:16:50.710 --> 00:16:55.210 not my favorite one. Yeah. But the Leatherman 00:16:55.210 --> 00:16:58.070 Signal, oh, my God, dude, that thing is fucking 00:16:58.070 --> 00:17:02.450 gorgeous. Yeah. So, yeah, I got that this weekend. 00:17:02.590 --> 00:17:06.869 I was really excited. I still, you know, I like 00:17:06.869 --> 00:17:09.400 my old one. And there's technically nothing wrong 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:11.559 with it. Like there's a spring broke on it, so 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.920 it opens funny. And the knife tip is snapped 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:20.859 off. But it's going to go into my spares, my 00:17:20.859 --> 00:17:24.359 spare equipment in the truck. And because whoever 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:29.099 knows when you need some pliers. Which is nice 00:17:29.099 --> 00:17:31.720 because on this one they have the removable teeth 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:35.019 or cutters on the pliers. So you could take those 00:17:35.019 --> 00:17:38.710 out. It's got a bit driver. which has a double 00:17:38.710 --> 00:17:42.890 -sided bit. I didn't know that. Has a quick release 00:17:42.890 --> 00:17:45.869 for the clip, like the pocket clip. Quick releases 00:17:45.869 --> 00:17:48.450 on and off. I didn't know that. I didn't look 00:17:48.450 --> 00:17:52.210 into it much. It had scissors, and it looked 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:56.470 really cool. And that's kind of what I went with. 00:17:56.809 --> 00:17:59.750 And it turned out to be much better. So, yeah, 00:17:59.809 --> 00:18:02.970 overall, really happy. Now I have to find her 00:18:02.970 --> 00:18:04.809 something, so I'm probably just going to buy 00:18:04.809 --> 00:18:10.640 her a Kindle. Call it a day. Get her a Kobo instead 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:15.940 of a Kindle. Is that like a knife? No. It's a 00:18:15.940 --> 00:18:20.319 variation of the Kindle. It's more open. So if 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:23.920 you get PDFs or EPUBs from somewhere else, you 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:26.799 can load them up without all the hackery that 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.160 you need to with a Kindle. And you can get a 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.420 colored one for less than what? uh kindle costs 00:18:33.420 --> 00:18:35.480 yeah i'll kind of talk to her and feel it out 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:37.119 a little bit more i'm a little bit more logical 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.960 like and she loves books like she has a big ass 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:44.039 tablet she could read audible or on the kindle 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.019 app or whatever and she doesn't like use it she 00:18:47.019 --> 00:18:50.200 barely uses it on her phone so it's like to me 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:52.579 like a kindle's pointless but if that's what 00:18:52.579 --> 00:18:58.400 she wants dude i i also have a tablet And I still 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:01.200 use my Kobo for reading instead of the tablet. 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.400 Yeah, just to me, I don't get it. But, you know, 00:19:04.420 --> 00:19:08.180 I'm an audiobook guy, so. I do both. The Kobo 00:19:08.180 --> 00:19:11.140 also is a 3 .5 millimeter jack for playing audiobooks. 00:19:11.140 --> 00:19:14.220 Yeah. So, I mean, it would be cool, and I'm sure 00:19:14.220 --> 00:19:16.619 she would love it. So, it's kind of one of those 00:19:16.619 --> 00:19:19.380 things that, like, I didn't need this multi -tool, 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:21.819 and she's been telling me she was going to get 00:19:21.819 --> 00:19:25.669 one for, like, a year and a half now. So. She 00:19:25.669 --> 00:19:27.509 finally did, and I'm just like, you know what? 00:19:27.569 --> 00:19:29.309 Whatever you want that's about the same price, 00:19:29.369 --> 00:19:32.769 just get it. Or I'll just get it, whatever. I 00:19:32.769 --> 00:19:34.849 don't really care if it's... Because like I said, 00:19:34.930 --> 00:19:39.009 I didn't need it. I just wanted it. We don't 00:19:39.009 --> 00:19:42.049 pick the... Anymore. We don't pick up a lot of 00:19:42.049 --> 00:19:44.990 we wants anymore. Right. You know what I mean? 00:19:45.150 --> 00:19:49.450 I've been... researching completely off topic 00:19:49.450 --> 00:19:51.269 i'm just thinking about it because multi -tools 00:19:51.269 --> 00:19:55.009 yeah um i've been researching using black oxide 00:19:55.009 --> 00:19:58.970 to color my uh my multi -tool yeah because you 00:19:58.970 --> 00:20:01.970 have the rocks on right yep yeah that's pretty 00:20:01.970 --> 00:20:05.089 cool too um oh yeah in our rap since we were 00:20:05.089 --> 00:20:07.710 talking about that uh i met up with alex for 00:20:07.710 --> 00:20:09.769 a little bit so he could help me diagnose my 00:20:09.769 --> 00:20:11.849 truck it's been making weird clanking sounds 00:20:11.849 --> 00:20:14.690 and so i drove over and we hung out for a little 00:20:14.690 --> 00:20:17.779 bit we determined that we're pretty darn sure 00:20:17.779 --> 00:20:21.359 it's brakes and then we compared multi -tools 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.859 and talked about that of course for another what 00:20:23.859 --> 00:20:27.019 30 minutes um because this multi -tool is pretty 00:20:27.019 --> 00:20:29.720 cool too the roxon um and they're affordable 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:32.259 like that's that's also a really cool price point 00:20:32.259 --> 00:20:36.099 and you know what you can't really compare the 00:20:36.099 --> 00:20:38.200 roxon to like your wave alpha because they're 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:40.400 a completely different thing yeah the roxon's 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:44.599 the roxon's more comparable to like uh the you 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:49.549 know the the gerber bridge or whatever Leatherman's 00:20:49.549 --> 00:20:51.450 other one is. I can't think of the name of it 00:20:51.450 --> 00:20:53.609 right now. Yeah, to be able to exchange whatever 00:20:53.609 --> 00:20:56.230 tools in and out that you want instead of having 00:20:56.230 --> 00:21:01.309 to buy a different tool is really cool. So, yeah, 00:21:01.430 --> 00:21:04.730 we talked about that, and then I've been debating 00:21:04.730 --> 00:21:06.910 diesel heaters for a while, looking them up, 00:21:06.990 --> 00:21:09.750 and he just got his new diesel heater in, so 00:21:09.750 --> 00:21:13.710 we hooked that up and listened to that and felt 00:21:13.710 --> 00:21:16.200 the heat and stuff like that. That's pretty cool. 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:23.859 And it's pretty efficient, I would say. Like, 00:21:23.859 --> 00:21:26.960 to take out of the box, like, pretty much comes 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:28.940 right out of the box ready. You just have to 00:21:28.940 --> 00:21:31.900 put a couple things on and fill it up. Really 00:21:31.900 --> 00:21:35.339 just the exhaust? They say just the exhaust. 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:37.819 Right. I wasn't running it without an air filter, 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:42.160 so I added that. Yeah. So, you know, it was funny. 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.380 I was just doing that, and then once they got 00:21:44.380 --> 00:21:48.109 home, I started looking at more diesel heaters 00:21:48.109 --> 00:21:51.190 because I'm going to get one here pretty soon. 00:21:51.269 --> 00:21:53.529 Like if I sell the truck, I will buy one for 00:21:53.529 --> 00:21:58.569 us so that we are ready because I also want to 00:21:58.569 --> 00:22:03.569 use it in the house if power goes out. And so 00:22:03.569 --> 00:22:08.630 there's a company called LF Bros, and they have 00:22:08.630 --> 00:22:11.950 a diesel heater that's like almost identical. 00:22:12.859 --> 00:22:18.539 to yours if not identical and is yeah literally 00:22:18.539 --> 00:22:22.940 handles and all i'm literally reading about it 00:22:22.940 --> 00:22:25.220 right now and it's the exact same heater yeah 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:28.940 so i think the only difference from the one that 00:22:28.940 --> 00:22:31.339 i seen versus yours is they have like disconnect 00:22:31.339 --> 00:22:37.380 um like remotes and disconnect uh like screen 00:22:37.380 --> 00:22:40.549 like you could pull it off or whatever Mine too. 00:22:40.690 --> 00:22:42.670 Oh, okay. I didn't know that because I don't 00:22:42.670 --> 00:22:44.410 think we pulled yours out other than the one. 00:22:44.410 --> 00:22:48.730 No. Mine has a remote and it has a screen that's 00:22:48.730 --> 00:22:51.150 removable. Yeah, so I was looking at that and 00:22:51.150 --> 00:22:53.930 then they have like a pro version and this and 00:22:53.930 --> 00:22:59.150 that. But this is the example of why you should 00:22:59.150 --> 00:23:02.789 be like looking up your products because I noticed 00:23:02.789 --> 00:23:05.970 this right away by looking at there's two carrying 00:23:05.970 --> 00:23:09.660 handles on the top that are like chrome. and 00:23:09.660 --> 00:23:11.940 it's a box and i was like dude this is identical 00:23:11.940 --> 00:23:14.440 to alex and as i was looking at it comparing 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.119 them side by side i'm like oh yeah it pretty 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:23.140 much is um and they added like 150 dollars onto 00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:26.859 it for their brand yeah it's literally it's the 00:23:26.859 --> 00:23:30.720 exact same thing so What's the technical term 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:32.980 with all pretty much the same thing, just copy 00:23:32.980 --> 00:23:36.279 and paste? White label. White label. Thank you. 00:23:36.619 --> 00:23:39.259 Yep. So I was kind of taking a look at this. 00:23:39.299 --> 00:23:41.700 It was funny because as I was looking, people 00:23:41.700 --> 00:23:45.380 mentioned 4x4 Colorado's diesel heater, which 00:23:45.380 --> 00:23:48.740 was the – and even someone – it's actually one 00:23:48.740 --> 00:23:52.359 of the big overlanders that reviewed this 4x4 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:54.640 Colorado one. Again, everybody knows they're 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:59.990 bankrupt now probably for this reason. This heater 00:23:59.990 --> 00:24:05.569 that they have is the exact same as another brand 00:24:05.569 --> 00:24:09.950 heater, too. So, I mean, a lot of these are white 00:24:09.950 --> 00:24:13.950 -label heaters, so try not to fall for that Overland 00:24:13.950 --> 00:24:19.309 tax. Do some looking, and you'll find it. I don't 00:24:19.309 --> 00:24:23.490 think it's... Now, all that being said, if you've 00:24:23.490 --> 00:24:26.460 got one that's based out of the U .S., support 00:24:26.460 --> 00:24:28.480 them because you've also got the possibility 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:32.140 that they have one that's not the same might 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:35.220 have better internals because a lot of times 00:24:35.220 --> 00:24:37.720 these chinese companies right so uh american 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.960 company teams up with them makes a product chinese 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.339 company rips it off at a cheaper price point 00:24:43.339 --> 00:24:46.799 but they it's not the same material it's not 00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:49.460 the same product it's just looks similar yeah 00:24:49.460 --> 00:24:52.799 so it's always good to do your uh your research 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:55.799 on it in like And if that means like emailing 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:58.140 the manufacturer and going, hey, who actually 00:24:58.140 --> 00:25:00.400 makes your product, then do that because we've 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:02.539 done it. We've done it for a couple of different 00:25:02.539 --> 00:25:05.680 products. And again, like Alex said, but then 00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:09.160 the other option is that people get on like Alibaba 00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:12.720 and they say, hey, this is what I want. This 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.099 is the branding I want on it. I want you to use 00:25:15.099 --> 00:25:19.640 higher quality parts. And then they just do that. 00:25:19.740 --> 00:25:24.299 And it is the same thing as. Your cheaper $100 00:25:24.299 --> 00:25:27.799 options, you're just getting it for $150 more. 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:30.839 So it is important to do your research on that, 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.599 make sure you know what's going on. So, yeah, 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:35.240 I just want to talk about that real quick because 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:38.359 as I was looking at the LF Bros one, I'm like, 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.440 this is the same fucking thing. Like, what is 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:46.019 going on? So I do hear that H -Calorie, their 00:25:46.019 --> 00:25:52.240 U .S. division has went around asking. uh overlanders 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:56.079 in the space to send them the list of changes 00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.880 that they would make or that they would recommend 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:03.240 to make a more overland uh friendly diesel heater 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:07.359 and they have been making changes um based on 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:13.180 that to their not their low line ones but the 00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:16.400 um but from what i hear like they're mid like 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:20.859 150 ish and up so like they have one That's kind 00:26:20.859 --> 00:26:25.119 of similar to the LF Bros one, and that's for 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:29.599 like $299. It's an 8 -kilowatt. It's got a 7 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:36.299 .5 -liter tank in it. So, I mean, it's got altitude 00:26:36.299 --> 00:26:41.140 mode, which a lot of diesel heaters have already. 00:26:42.579 --> 00:26:46.380 But it's just one of those things where... Yeah, 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:48.400 do some research. I've already spent probably 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.900 eight hours on YouTube watching different videos 00:26:51.900 --> 00:26:55.599 and how. I wonder what the difference between 00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:58.819 my $100 one and their $160 one is because mine's 00:26:58.819 --> 00:27:03.359 an 8 kilowatt. Yeah. With smart altitude. Yeah. 00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:09.099 And that's the thing is like H calorie and what 00:27:09.099 --> 00:27:13.039 was yours again? Mine's an H calorie. Oh, yeah. 00:27:13.099 --> 00:27:16.380 Okay. But then there's like bougie RV, which 00:27:16.380 --> 00:27:19.400 looks kind of the same, but it's got pretty much 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.880 just a different shell. Like you got to think 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:24.039 that probably a lot of them are the same internals. 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:28.339 H -Calorie does have a $220 -ish one that's got, 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.039 it's like a briefcase style, so it's a little 00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:34.759 more waterproof. Personally, I'm not too worried 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.940 about waterproofness because the diesel heater, 00:27:37.140 --> 00:27:40.140 when it's running, it's going to dry itself out 00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:44.740 anyway. The only thing it won't is you need to 00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:46.940 make sure that the exhaust is either straight 00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:48.980 out or pointed down. Otherwise, it builds up 00:27:48.980 --> 00:27:54.200 moisture and then floods it. I mean, my old one, 00:27:54.299 --> 00:27:56.019 I have the exhaust pointed straight in the air, 00:27:56.059 --> 00:27:57.920 and I've never had a problem, but they say it 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:01.400 can happen. Yeah, that suitcase one is the one 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.900 that I think I might go with. It's going to be 00:28:04.900 --> 00:28:11.170 between that one and the $299 one, which... I'm 00:28:11.170 --> 00:28:15.109 not really sure about. But it's supposed to be, 00:28:15.109 --> 00:28:21.170 like, IP6 waterproof or whatever, and the ports 00:28:21.170 --> 00:28:23.509 are moved a little bit on it so that they don't, 00:28:23.509 --> 00:28:25.150 like, interfere with each other, the exhaust 00:28:25.150 --> 00:28:28.970 and stuff. So I'm curious about it. I don't know 00:28:28.970 --> 00:28:32.910 if I'm so curious that I'm willing to spend another 00:28:32.910 --> 00:28:38.210 $80 or so on it. Is that the $299 one? Yeah, 00:28:38.230 --> 00:28:41.890 it's the... All -in -one toolbox, max, diesel, 00:28:42.150 --> 00:28:45.549 parking heater with app control. It's pretty 00:28:45.549 --> 00:28:49.490 similar to yours. It's the same as mine. The 00:28:49.490 --> 00:28:52.609 heater element itself, like the box that does 00:28:52.609 --> 00:28:55.970 it, it's literally mine. Well, and that's the 00:28:55.970 --> 00:29:02.210 thing is, like, how do we know? Like, I need 00:29:02.210 --> 00:29:05.769 to get a hold of these guys and get, like, a 00:29:05.769 --> 00:29:09.930 parts list. So I can cross -reference what is 00:29:09.930 --> 00:29:12.809 actually the same, what's different. That's the 00:29:12.809 --> 00:29:15.970 issue. I can sit here and cross -reference this 00:29:15.970 --> 00:29:19.170 one right now. The shell is different. Yeah, 00:29:19.190 --> 00:29:22.569 of course. The heater itself, literally the same 00:29:22.569 --> 00:29:26.750 model. You can tell by the output. It has a different 00:29:26.750 --> 00:29:32.349 controller, but a similar controller. The exhaust, 00:29:32.609 --> 00:29:34.769 exactly the same as mine. Yeah, the exhaust. 00:29:34.769 --> 00:29:38.299 The intake. intake exactly the same as mine well 00:29:38.299 --> 00:29:42.519 obviously it's the same same main unit i'm curious 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:47.279 to the sound deadening and if the what i mean 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.079 like what the difference is between them because 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:53.420 all again all these diesel heaters use the exact 00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:56.779 same heater box there's only a couple of factories 00:29:56.779 --> 00:29:59.079 that make them they use the exact same parts 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.880 so when you buy a diesel heater don't spend more 00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.529 than like a hundred dollars on it unless you 00:30:04.529 --> 00:30:06.490 need some fancy packaging but you don't even 00:30:06.490 --> 00:30:09.250 need that just get the cheapest option because 00:30:09.250 --> 00:30:12.450 they're all the same product yeah mostly the 00:30:12.450 --> 00:30:14.490 only difference is the outer casing other than 00:30:14.490 --> 00:30:16.670 that the internals are literally the same yeah 00:30:16.670 --> 00:30:20.730 i think i'm a little more skeptic on like i understand 00:30:20.730 --> 00:30:25.430 that they are the full the the same core but 00:30:25.430 --> 00:30:28.029 obviously there's got to be something else internally 00:30:28.029 --> 00:30:31.609 different to make let's say one way quieter than 00:30:31.609 --> 00:30:35.309 the other Because that would be out pretty quick. 00:30:35.509 --> 00:30:38.390 It's not as exhaust if you don't have the exhaust. 00:30:39.329 --> 00:30:42.049 Yeah, all diesel heaters have the same volume. 00:30:42.730 --> 00:30:45.329 They all operate the same way. They're all the 00:30:45.329 --> 00:30:47.829 same mechanics. They all sound the same. The 00:30:47.829 --> 00:30:50.170 only sound on a diesel heater is the exhaust. 00:30:51.109 --> 00:30:53.869 No, I mean, there are people putting side -by 00:30:53.869 --> 00:30:57.349 -sides with, what do they call those? The things 00:30:57.349 --> 00:31:01.220 that measure sound decibels. Dude. Some make 00:31:01.220 --> 00:31:04.519 different, or some are louder than others. It's 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.079 all in the muffler. They're all the same product. 00:31:07.980 --> 00:31:10.599 We're just going to have to agree to disagree 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.079 on this. I agree that the internals are very 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:16.359 similar. I've built, they're all the same. I've 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:19.000 built a few of them. I've bought a couple of 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.380 them. They're all the same. Yeah. Like I said, 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:27.220 I would agree to disagree on it. And I'd just 00:31:27.220 --> 00:31:31.640 say to do your research. And look for one, obviously 00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:33.500 one that's cheaper, especially if you don't like, 00:31:33.579 --> 00:31:35.839 I'm not going to be doing it a lot. So I'm not 00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:39.940 going to go and spend $1 ,000 on the Overland 00:31:39.940 --> 00:31:44.160 branded ones. But because they have $800 ones, 00:31:44.380 --> 00:31:47.059 $1 ,000 ones, and that just makes no sense for 00:31:47.059 --> 00:31:50.160 someone who's not getting paid for one to do 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:56.059 it. So that's at least my take on that. But where 00:31:56.059 --> 00:31:58.470 are we at? I think we're at. Probably. Yeah, 00:31:58.470 --> 00:32:00.049 we're at our 30 minutes. We're at our 30 minutes. 00:32:01.430 --> 00:32:05.329 There's our wrapped slash diesel slash all the 00:32:05.329 --> 00:32:12.410 fun stuff. Yeah. No, you're wrong. There's nothing 00:32:12.410 --> 00:32:14.289 to disagree on. They're all the same product. 00:32:14.970 --> 00:32:18.450 I disagree. No, I'm not done yet. No. See, there's 00:32:18.450 --> 00:32:20.289 nothing to disagree on. They are the same product. 00:32:20.450 --> 00:32:24.309 What makes them quieter is the muffler. I disagree 00:32:24.309 --> 00:32:29.029 that. There is no difference in internal shielding 00:32:29.029 --> 00:32:33.650 or rerouting that makes them different. I think 00:32:33.650 --> 00:32:36.670 that there is a difference. I've seen the insides 00:32:36.670 --> 00:32:38.710 in some of these. It's only the casing, dude. 00:32:38.809 --> 00:32:41.609 It's only the casing. Because the diesel heater 00:32:41.609 --> 00:32:44.809 itself doesn't even need a casing to run. No. 00:32:45.390 --> 00:32:50.609 So the outside shroud on the heater component 00:32:50.609 --> 00:32:55.859 itself can be plastic. It can be aluminum. And 00:32:55.859 --> 00:32:58.460 some companies opt for aluminum, which supposedly 00:32:58.460 --> 00:33:04.700 makes it quieter and better with... Let me see. 00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:07.759 It sounds like they're just trying to make you 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.180 think it's a better product because literally 00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:14.079 the only thing that makes noise is the exhaust, 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:18.240 but you don't have the muffler in it. Yeah. Well, 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.160 I definitely hear the fan, like the pushing out. 00:33:22.859 --> 00:33:25.960 And I've heard multiple diesel heaters side -by 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.279 -side out camping, and they have different noise 00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:34.099 outputs. So, yes, I mean, like, obviously, H 00:33:34.099 --> 00:33:36.839 -Calorie is going to probably use all the same 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:40.140 exhausts because that's kind of the cheapest 00:33:40.140 --> 00:33:44.539 option, cheapest thing to do. Some of them upgrade 00:33:44.539 --> 00:33:48.990 that. Now. There is a way to get a quieter one, 00:33:49.109 --> 00:33:52.349 which I didn't mention, is there is a brushless 00:33:52.349 --> 00:33:54.789 one. If you can get a brushless diesel heater, 00:33:54.910 --> 00:33:57.390 they're a lot quieter. But you're looking at 00:33:57.390 --> 00:34:02.170 spending $200 for a bare kit or up to like $400 00:34:02.170 --> 00:34:06.450 for an all -in -one. Yeah, I guess this goes 00:34:06.450 --> 00:34:11.469 back to the same debate with any really white 00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:16.329 label companies. Like the same Chinese manufacturers 00:34:16.329 --> 00:34:18.389 that build the compressors and everything else. 00:34:18.429 --> 00:34:23.610 I personally think that these companies put different 00:34:23.610 --> 00:34:27.909 internals to spec the product the way that they 00:34:27.909 --> 00:34:33.829 want it and keep the price competitive. And there's 00:34:33.829 --> 00:34:35.789 a lot of compressors out there that I think are 00:34:35.789 --> 00:34:39.280 pretty much the same. and there's just a few 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:41.460 pieces on the inside that make up the difference 00:34:41.460 --> 00:34:45.159 so that that's more of what i'm trying to what 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.980 i think is that a lot of these are comparable 00:34:47.980 --> 00:34:50.639 a lot of them do have a lot of the same pieces 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.539 but i would like to know what makes them different 00:34:54.539 --> 00:35:00.440 for let's say lf bros if i can get like a parts 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:07.989 list versus h calorie part list versus uh bougie 00:35:07.989 --> 00:35:10.929 rv versus the other so like i know they're similar 00:35:10.929 --> 00:35:14.070 well bougie rv is just straight white labeled 00:35:14.070 --> 00:35:16.929 they don't do anything custom i know um i i've 00:35:16.929 --> 00:35:20.250 got some partial part list here for you for lf 00:35:20.250 --> 00:35:23.949 bros yeah depending on which one you buy well 00:35:23.949 --> 00:35:26.869 i can read it to you or i can look at it and 00:35:26.869 --> 00:35:29.869 tell you um depending on which lf bros you buy 00:35:29.869 --> 00:35:32.929 they've got one that's got a brushless fan the 00:35:32.929 --> 00:35:34.969 the thing with the left bros is they use a different 00:35:34.969 --> 00:35:39.130 controller um That's the big thing with diesel 00:35:39.130 --> 00:35:41.070 heaters. All the controllers are different, and 00:35:41.070 --> 00:35:43.969 that's what makes the difference. But it doesn't 00:35:43.969 --> 00:35:47.409 change sound. It just changes features. Yeah. 00:35:47.469 --> 00:35:52.030 But it's all the same product other than the 00:35:52.030 --> 00:35:57.849 controller. Except for this guy. This guy would 00:35:57.849 --> 00:36:03.010 be nice and quiet because he is brushless. And 00:36:03.010 --> 00:36:05.150 that is your big difference, is if you find a 00:36:05.150 --> 00:36:07.449 brushless one... That's the only way to make 00:36:07.449 --> 00:36:20.670 him quieter. Gavin's muted. Whoops, sorry. Yeah, 00:36:20.750 --> 00:36:23.710 I've seen some review videos where they apparently, 00:36:23.889 --> 00:36:26.289 and I'm putting air quotations around this because 00:36:26.289 --> 00:36:30.610 I know it'll be refuted, but that apparently 00:36:30.610 --> 00:36:34.690 they talk to the... owners of the the company 00:36:34.690 --> 00:36:38.690 that sell these aftermarket not their white label 00:36:38.690 --> 00:36:41.849 obviously but they they say they have different 00:36:41.849 --> 00:36:43.750 internals they say that there are things that 00:36:43.750 --> 00:36:46.829 they do differently that make them better than 00:36:46.829 --> 00:36:50.230 the typical amazon white label so this is why 00:36:50.230 --> 00:36:54.070 i'm curious so here you go gavin don't buy a 00:36:54.070 --> 00:37:01.030 diesel heater buy this gasoline heater oh Oh, 00:37:01.070 --> 00:37:05.289 yeah, here you go. What the fuck? It says gasoline 00:37:05.289 --> 00:37:10.090 diesel parking water heater. What the hell is 00:37:10.090 --> 00:37:15.969 this thing? You're right. I just saw gasoline. 00:37:16.409 --> 00:37:22.010 What even is this thing? I don't even know. When 00:37:22.010 --> 00:37:24.409 you start the parking heater, it heats the coolant 00:37:24.409 --> 00:37:26.730 in the water tank. It transmits the warm air 00:37:26.730 --> 00:37:31.900 to the cabin through a fan. Oh, here we go. I 00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:35.260 got one for you guys. This one's self -powered. 00:37:36.659 --> 00:37:41.840 Oh, my God. I see that one. Just for the listeners, 00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:45.239 by the way, me and Alex arguing isn't us mad 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.039 at each other or anything. We debate this quite 00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.940 a bit. Oh, dude, I'm pissed at you. I hate you. 00:37:50.940 --> 00:37:53.500 You're the worst. I just want everyone to know 00:37:53.500 --> 00:37:57.300 there's no hard feelings between our differing 00:37:57.300 --> 00:38:00.679 opinions. That's kind of why we... like having 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.619 each other on here is because we both have different 00:38:03.619 --> 00:38:06.320 opinions on it. It's good to have that. This 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.000 self -powered one, this one would be quiet. That 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.340 muffler will make it quiet. Are those 18650s? 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.519 If I could use my vape batteries to charge this, 00:38:16.619 --> 00:38:20.920 I'd be sick. They look more like 21700s, which 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:25.900 are also a vape battery, or 26650s. I can't really 00:38:25.900 --> 00:38:30.739 tell what they are. That's cool, though. But 00:38:30.739 --> 00:38:34.480 if you want a quiet one, that kind of muffler 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:39.739 is what you need. Oh, yeah. Oh, damn. That's 00:38:39.739 --> 00:38:44.900 a suppressor. Yeah. That's like a can right there, 00:38:44.980 --> 00:38:48.079 dude. That's honestly a pretty stout little unit. 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:54.820 Yeah. $639, I hope so. Ooh, $795 if you get the 00:38:54.820 --> 00:38:58.929 storage bags, which are also sick. Yeah. We know 00:38:58.929 --> 00:39:02.590 Alex likes his storage bags. No, it's really 00:39:02.590 --> 00:39:06.670 what it comes down to is it's all packaging, 00:39:06.789 --> 00:39:08.769 right? You can build something better than most 00:39:08.769 --> 00:39:10.449 of these because you're going to put more expensive 00:39:10.449 --> 00:39:13.329 parts in than what they will. Yeah. Because you're 00:39:13.329 --> 00:39:19.769 not having to deal with the markup. All right, 00:39:19.869 --> 00:39:21.989 that's 40 minutes. We'll call it there. 40 minutes, 00:39:22.010 --> 00:39:22.469 calling it.