Welcome to botches off -road join us as we talk
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do with the outdoors. Holy crap mark. Did you
hear what just happened? Yeah, you did the intro
phone your problems. Oh My god without having
it pulled up. I did that from memory. Yep that
too I'm getting somewhere. All right So it's
been a bit man. It's been like two whole fucking
weeks. Yeah just about this uh no Gavin today
his kid is something something's going on with
this kid I don't get the story so yeah um yeah
it's just us so we man gotta go back two weeks
so two weeks ago I got a bug up my ass and decided
I needed a roof rack yeah you had to join the
show with me Yeah, I was like man everyone else
is getting fucking roof racks. I ain't got no
roof rack. Oh, yeah Mark has a roof rack, too
I don't know if we've talked about that on the
podcast yet. I don't remember anymore But I did
not have the 800 plus dollars it costs for a
roof rack So I got thinking about it and I got
on Amazon and I bought a 84 inch Something or
other rooftop basket. Yeah, and then I bought
some conduit Clamps and then I bought some furniture
feet Now what this allowed me to do is flush
mount the basket to my roof rather than having
it flow on those Stupid factory rails. Yeah,
so it doesn't look bad. It actually looks like
a roof. Yeah, it really does. It's really clean
I'm surprised we got the foot and furniture feet
to work though Yes, then we took these furniture
feet and they're adjustable. So I self tap those
in on the rack up in the front where it's not
supported by the roof anymore. And then we adjusted
them down to put tension on the rack so it didn't
bounce. And that thing's pretty damn stable.
Oh, yeah. We were quite surprised by that one.
And then I bought four seven inch LED lights.
Those are kind of dumb. They they don't even
light up more than what my Ditch light and light
bar do But they look fucking cool. I'm gonna
light up more than what you realize No, I was
playing with it today. So I I turned on the overheads,
right? Yep, and Then I turned on the ditch light
the ditch light lit up more than what or lit
up around me more than the overheads did and
then I turned on the fog light or the light bar
and then I could see farther so they literally
don't do any more good than what I already had
but they look really cool you probably get the
wrong purpose lights is what's going on there
well they're floods and they're spots they're
both I think they had to be more spot than flooded,
but anyways. These ones are both. I know. Like
they're they're the middle has a four inch spot
and the outside is flood. Yeah, I know. I know.
I don't see how it works. I just I just think
it should be different. That's all. Hey, dude,
if you can find me seven inch just spots, do
it. They don't exist. Yeah. So they look good.
They look cool. I'm never going to use the damn
things, but they're there. Yep. I put some amber
film over them. They're like, I think I paid
60 bucks for all four of them. It's, uh, the
entire rack with lights is under $300. So. You
know, you take what you can get. So I did that
and then. We finished that up on Monday. No,
Sunday We're leaving on Thursday, right? Yeah,
I get a call from Mark on Wednesday Tuesday Tuesday
Whatever day it was. Hey, man, my trucks running
like ass. It was like 1030 at night. So I Mosey
on over to Mark's house. Just like what 35 minutes
away? Yeah, just about maybe a little bit less
but not by a lot So I get over there. I look
at it. Yep. Your trucks running like ass No idea
why didn't we didn't have enough time before
we left to figure it out and so it's like dude
just Just send it to a shop and let them figure
it out because we don't got time to mess with
yes Like nothing with new cold wise was popping
up. So we had no idea what was causing it Yeah,
so Then it went to the shop on Wednesday. Yep
And we loaded all of Mark and his brother's gear
onto the forerunner on Tuesday night So the forerunner
was fucking loaded. Yeah, what was After the
cat scale it was what like sixty two hundred
pounds or something like that. Yes I think with
people I think we decided it was sixty two hundred
pounds which I did the math on that, right? I'm
like, all right, how much does Mark weigh? How
much does Alan weigh? How much roughly does their
gear weigh? I had about a thousand pounds more
than normal in there. So we his truck went to
the shop. I met them at their place of employment
down in Holland. We loaded up the forerunner
and headed out towards Missouri. Think the drive
down was just uneventful. We didn't have anything.
Oh We stopped at a hotel both And we decided
to lock We did the best we could to lock the
truck and left one door unlocked Well the next
morning my wife needed to go get the hygiene
kit She went got the hygiene kit came back in
about an hour later. I get a call from mark Did
you lock the forerunner? I'm like, uh, no Yeah,
so when she got out she must have bumped the
lock and she somehow locked completely locked
us out I don't have a key that lock unlocks the
outside door nothing like we were just locked.
Yeah So I sent Mark and Alan to Family Dollar
Dollar General, whatever. It's one of those bullshit
stores To get some metal coat hangers so we could
break in while they were there. I'm just Looking
at the truck and I realized that I still haven't
fixed my driver's side door handle that like
hangs loose So I could just reach behind the
door handle and turn the lock cylinder to unlock
the truck. Yeah Works great. Let us in Yeah,
that that's really all that happened though other
than that we did our drive going down I got 17
.6 miles to the gallon which is I still don't
get it, dude. Truck had a thousand extra pounds
on it. 35 -inch tires. Yep. That doesn't account
for all the extra bullshit on that truck. No.
And it had a roof rack that was loaded the fuck
down. Yep. And I still got over 15 miles to the
gallon. Yeah, it was quite impressive. We did
pretty good gas way compared to last year when
we went down. Yeah, I like barely needed gas
this trip. Maybe the trucks only run in on four
cylinders, and it's not a four -cylinder. That's
why I don't know. Oh just like mine Yeah, oh
yeah, but we got word back at this point Mark's
truck was fixed. It needed two Coils coil packs
coils. Yep cylinder five and six so bad The mechanic
fix that Sad we couldn't fix it, but we just
did not have time for that. Yeah that crack was
nothing fun. It was just a spray Yeah, I'm drinking
water over here Yeah so We Get down to Missouri
Benji had an awesome field for us to go like
that was legitimate Legitimately a great camping.
Yes I was trying to figure out how big it was.
I'm like, man, this is a lot bigger than I thought
it was going to be. So we pull into the back
where the rowdy kids were supposed to park. We
get the swag set up, get the light fighter set
up, and we brought the we brought the poo castle,
but we didn't bring a toilet. We just needed
something to change it because we had portable.
Benji supplied portable bodies for us. But it's
a lot nicer to change when you can stand up than
when you're stuck laying down. Oh, yeah Yeah
So we got all that set up that didn't take long.
I think we were pretty with bullshitting. We
were set up in I don't know 20 minutes. Yeah
20 or 30 minutes. It was we didn't it was pretty
quick But we were bullshitting the whole phone.
Oh, I understand See who is there when we got
there Tyson Tyson we had the guy with the Bronco.
Was it Jordan? Oh Yeah, Jordan, dude. Jordan's
fucking yeah Yeah, he I don't know. I don't have
him on Instagram or Facebook or anything. But
dude is a officer in charge of Basic well, I'm
not in charge. He's an XO at a basic training
company, dude He was so fucking fun to talk to
you Tyson's stepson Yep, yep junior who was a
fucking Okay, when people bring their kids on
trips like this it can be really really annoying.
Yep Because most people's kids No offense to
people listening. No species those kids frickin
suck. Yeah Like there's oh my god, but no junior
this kid. He's he's like 15. I think Real quick
to give a joke funny as hell, like just a joy
to be around. That's just not what I would expect
from a kid being a trip that very much so should
have been 21 plus. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. And
so we got set up. We got the campfire out. Got
a campfire going. Think the campfire pretty much
just stayed going the entire weekend just about
I think only went out when we all went to bed,
but beyond that it was Usually got started up
pretty quick So Yeah, we that first day Did we
go to the shop the first day? Yeah? Oh, yeah
No No, did we wait till the second day? Yeah,
we wait until the second day Okay, so the first
day we got there we got set up we bullshitted
around the fire till latest shit Yeah, I'll say
cuz first day was let's just hanging out camping
and then we had the Friends giving potluck. Oh,
yep. That's right. And then and we watched Code
3. Yeah code 3 Listen, watching movies while
camping is not my favorite thing. And if I'd
known that all the other guys had slinked back
to the campfire, I totally would have. But that
movie was so freaking funny. It was. Oh, it was
great. Yeah, so we watched the movie and I had
an adorable little terrier sitting in my lap
the whole time. Trying to steal everyone's food,
but doesn't matter. He chose me to be his pedestal
for food ceiling and Then this great. What kind
of dog? Yes Yeah, yeah Yeah, that yeah the guard
the farm guard dog whose name I can never remember
very fluffy white fluffy And he just he would
come up dude, and he'd like try to lay in my
lap like oh Gus was the best I You know, I don't
even know who his owners were but I want to go
back and see them just to see guys I Should I
couldn't have brought my dogs because we had
four adults in a small third gen, but yeah Wrangler
Mercy probably would have been a pain in the
ass the whole time but Wrangler would have loved
that trip Yeah, there was there were so many
dogs that were like his level of energy. Oh,
yeah. Oh He would have had a blast especially
I The one guy that camped by us with the fair
The yeah, yeah Freya Freya Freya. Yeah Freya
Yeah, she this guy camped by us. He had a service
dog named Freya She was oh she was a fucking
dude. God was she fun? Okay, now we talked about
dogs for 20 minutes Yeah, so that's like all
the important dogs to remember from this trip.
Yeah The little terrier's name was Patrick. Which
is funny because Patrick Kissman was there. And
there was a moment where Patrick the dog got
lost. And we're like, have you seen Patrick?
And they're like, yeah, he's over here. But they
were talking about Patrick the person, not Patrick
the dog. That was funny. And this happened with
multiple people. Yeah, he drove over there. The
dog drove over there? What? But Patrick was found.
Yeah, he was never actually lost. He just went
and found someone else to hang out. Yeah See
that was fun and then we had sat around the fire
Drank a little bit. Okay. I drank a lot. I had
like seven or eight beers Yeah, then I stole
from Benji and off -road Brian. I think they're
just handing them out anyways They were but you
know Yeah, it was fun man. I Trips we do here
in Michigan are fun, right? I never have a problem
with them But it's it's nice getting to get out
and see those friends that we don't see ever.
Yeah, you know Yeah, like off -road Brian one
of the coolest people in the world Benji again
one of the coolest people in the world Charlie
Rasinowski from outskirts overland One of easily
one of the coolest people to talk to you it just
Those are those people that I want to see all
the time and only get to see like once a year.
Yeah It was fun then we all went to bed and I
crawled in the little swag it was cold that first
night. Mm -hmm. I Kind of wish I left the winter
layer on but it wasn't it wasn't bad Until I
open the right bug netting and the rain fly a
little bit until I forgot about the zipping them
back up in the middle of the night When you have
that winter kid, do you even need the bug netting?
Probably you could probably get away with it
found it I think every once in a while. There's
a good breeze. It blows through underneath and
you can feel it That's what the extra little
tub would work for on the bud netting. Gotcha
Yeah, but in the swag I didn't feel no breeze.
Yeah The problem was that my wife Yeah, go ahead.
I think my wife my wife burritoed with all the
blankets and I had the corner of a sheet Yeah,
didn't she like that was something open to the
reason why she was so cold also Yeah, when I
crawled in there she had all the All the vents
were wide open. So there was just it was just
cold. It hadn't built any body heat So I closed
all the vents except for like Maybe a quarter
because they were wide open and I closed until
they were a quarter open I always leave them
about a quarter open so that the humidity can
get out. Yeah Now the problem was it was so humid
outside Oh, yeah, it didn't matter what it didn't
matter. It was cold and humid like it didn't
matter what I did Everything was just wet. Everything
we owned was just wet. Yeah. My rain fly was
super drenched. I'm like, what the frick? And
it didn't really rain. No. Like the whole weekend.
It didn't really rain. It was just the fog. You
could cut it with a knife. Yep. And it was humid.
So that first night I slept. I didn't sleep great.
Then the second day we went to Riggs and Coffee.
Yeah. Dude, that coffee shop, we need a coffee
shop by where we do rigs and coffee. Yes. I mean,
as you count it, you got that donut place up
the road. I think they're busy. Yeah, that's
a long, that's a long ways away. Not that long.
Compared to walking in the door. Yeah, okay.
What I meant was us hosting there but I don't
think. Yeah. They're gonna be too busy for that.
Got you. Got you. Yeah, it was cool man rigging
coffee was fun It was a very different vibe than
our rigs and coffee because our rigs and coffee
is more about the trucks. Yep This this rigs
and coffee. No one even looked at a truck. I
mean we did look at the except for the Jeep truck
Yeah, but like how do you not? Yeah But I mean
for the most part like no one was walking around
just looking at trucks and our rigs and coffee
that's all they do But it was fun man, uh, then
oh and the coffee dude, what was that thing called
a campfire the campfire? Oh That was delicious.
I wish I knew the name of that coffee shop so
I could Maybe I'll put it in the show notes.
Yes, so people can find it. Um Yeah, so We did
rigs and coffee then we went to Benji shop for
a little bit I was gonna steal some parts off
of a parts truck. He's got there And then I decided
screw that it's too much work and we didn't do
it I also jacked up the forerunner and shook
every spot in the The only shake I've got is
that my rack and pinion wiggles a little bit
inside its mount Yeah, so I got to come up with
a way to fix that. I Know the fix for that. It's
like 65 bucks. I just got to do it But everything
was fine then After that we kind of had some
time we could like go out and explore the area
instead we drove 35 minutes to a Walmart so I
could buy more blankets for my tent because I
was freezing oh I also bought a new sorter for
the swag so now I've got pockets that go floor
to ceiling at my feet and I bought lights which
I put up in there so now when it's dark in there
you flip a switch and boom there's light in the
swag it's fantastic the coffee place was the
brew coffee house The Brew Coffee House in Crocker,
Missouri. Crocker. I was going to call it Conklin.
Conklin. I was mixing Joplin and Crocker. Yeah,
so then we went and got some blankets. And by
the way, options for blankets in Southern Walmarts
are junk compared to ours. Yeah. Like you go
to Walmart here and you've got like two inch
thick blankets. Like it's great You go to Walmart
there. It's like here's a throw blanket So I
got a quilt and I got Fuzzy blanket to go along
with my two wool blankets and sheet. Yeah And
we went back and I did some construction on the
swag to get my lights in and get my bed made
Uh you went and washed dishes at that time. Yep.
How is uh how is Patrick's new house? It's okay.
It was a little messy but I was mostly the kitchen
that was messy than anything. You calling him
out for a messy kitchen. I'm not. He was a little
doing dishes so it wasn't like that bad. Dude
was busy. I know. No, Patrick's new house. Patrick's
new house is cool. It's cool that he was able
to move and work with Benji. Yeah. That's a good
fit, man. I feel like those two working together
at a shop like that, they're going to be able
to do some amazing things and seeing the rigs
that they were building while we were there.
They are doing some amazing. Oh, yeah. It sounds
like those sounds like they're shifting from
the store more to the building aspect now than
what they were planning to originally Yeah, and
building classic Toyotas which makes a hundred.
It's a hundred percent make sense. Oh, yeah They
find a niche they stick to it it's it's gonna
do good. Yep. Um Yeah, so then we tried to steal
some parts it didn't work out because I was lazy
And I don't think any of us really had the ambition
to do it. Then we went back to camp. I don't
remember what we did when we got all construction.
And I don't remember what happened after that.
We just sit around the fire, sat around the fire
for a bit. The venue, how did I forget the venue?
Yeah, and then we're getting to that point. Hold
on. They had the classes so we kind of snuck
over to what was the tail end of the classes
Yeah, I didn't know why we're there and Yeah,
then we went to the venue correct, which it was
really cool. He had like six bands playing Beer
Some drink that Kaylin liked, but she doesn't
know what it was called We got some cigars sat
and smoked some cigars at the venue then That
was pretty much it at the venue. We uh, it was
really loud and I don't do loud very well So
we just kind of hung outside for a while outside
was a good place Then we went back to camp and
just sat around the fire and had a good time
Drank some more stayed up way later than we should
have with a long drive home. Yeah Yeah, I was
like I slept great I that second night dude Yeah,
I woke I woke up ready to go Yeah, I think I
just had a wake up real quick and take a piss
real quick outside. I don't that was pretty relaxed
night Yeah, then we we tore down camp as soon
as we got up which did not take us long at all
Not at all, especially since I figure out that
we could roll up my tent with the pad Yeah, I
mean yeah, you you unrolled that yesterday yes
unrolled it Sunday When we go back when it fit
in this and it fit in the tent of the the pad
bag Yeah, all rolled up like yeah Yeah, that
worked out really well because now to set it
up you just unroll it put the pulse in throw
the rain fly on your job It's almost a swag.
Yes almost Just got to figure out how to get
the sleeping bag in there Yeah, I which you don't
want to do you want in the sleeping bag to breathe.
Yeah Let's be clear here But yeah that worked
out that's really cool that you can do that that's
a huge time saver. Oh, yeah Because now you've
got the tent the winter kit and the sleeping
bag or no the sleeping pad all rolled in one
burrito. Yep. And you ended up with straps to
strap it down from the pad, I guess. Yes. Do
we ever find Alan's? Yes, I found it. It was
underneath his duffel bag. Gotcha. Did he roll
his up the same way you did or did he do his
pole pull out thing? He rolled it up the same
way he I did. Okay, he took the rain. He didn't
act the rain fly cuz how what a rain flies were
Yeah, they were so they were Yeah, then we we
got everything loaded up we hit the the coffee
shop one more time Mm -hmm got some coffee for
the drive. We didn't make any coffee this true.
No we debate about it Sunday On the way back
on the way back, but we never did I think we're
just trying going I didn't want to stop dude
Then we made it about three and a half hours
About four hours, and I hit a bump, but I felt
the back of the forerunner react differently
mm -hmm And I just didn't say anything about
it like I was just a weird bump and then like
an hour later We stopped at a gas station, and
I was walking back, and I noticed the forerunner
was leaning hard to the passenger side Yeah So
then I crawled underneath and that poor icon
spur shock that has been had been overloaded
at this point for like 900 miles Yeah, and was
was old to begin with it. Just it decided its
time was done and it kicked the bucket Yeah,
yeah, so That was the start of forerunner. Oh,
no, the start was the fact that my brake booster
went out in Chicago on the way there. Oh, yeah
Like I hadn't and not only was I overloaded I
had manual brakes the entire time Yeah, it was
a sign. No, I'm not gonna exist anymore. I'm
not gonna be intermediate intermittent like I
was So we gotta we gotta fix my brake booster
now, yep Which if we're doing that we may as
well fix the master cylinder because I've got
it. Mm -hmm Then the second issue was the shock
Was that it oh we had a weird misfire for a while,
but it went away. Yeah. Oh You also stole a mirror.
Oh Yeah, I stole a mirror off Benji so I could
see out the back This time we're going to got
you we're gonna take it off if he goes on skitter
ever again Friday I've got two mirrors again.
I did order new shocks We'll get to that. Well,
we'll get yeah finish out our drive. So then
We pretty much just drove all the whole way.
There was one point when I was having an issue.
No, we were wait We're trying to get food And
I'm like, but I'm only at half a tank. We got
to keep going and we just kept going dude And
then mark was like, oh they have a cat scale
and I've been wanting to weigh the truck Yeah,
I was still at like I was still over a quarter.
I'm like fuck it. We're stopping So we we stopped
got some food got filled up. I went over the
cat scale God was that truck heavy? Yeah, then
We got back on the road and I think we made it
all the way back to cedar from that point, didn't
we? Yeah, I think we had one stop because you
had a trade -off for a little bit. Oh Yeah, but
that was that a rest stop that wasn't fuel related.
No Yeah for whatever reason dude around Chicago
and lower Southwest, Michigan. It was so smoky
and Having to keep my eyes open. My eyes were
on fire. Oh, yeah my eyes. I was like or me too
Was like all right, dude, we got to trade off
because I got to close my eyes for a little while
I Didn't sleep because I can't sleep when traveling
like that, but not usually it happened last year
Yeah, so we traded off for a little bit and then
I Think we stopped at a rest area a little while
later. Yeah And then traded back. Yep, and then
I drove drove all the way to Cedar I wish I didn't
get car sick because it would have been nice
to trade off driving here and there. Yeah, but
That little bit you drove I ended up really car
sick But that bus dude that was what like a 15
minute ride that made me so oh, yeah, but I think
we're really dehydrated We were lacking and drinking
water for that weekend Yeah, we fucked up But
no that one that was bad, but yeah, so we we
get back to cedar we unload the truck and usually
when we're unloading the truck we can watch it
you know rise back up to its normal height when
we unloaded on sunday night it did not change
at all yeah so then drop mark and alan off i
drove home pretty much went right to bed then
monday i uh Unloaded the back end of the truck
and it still didn't change I took everything
out and it still didn't change and I'm like,
all right I've either got a bent spring. My springs
are now dead And my shocks are bad. Yep So I've
got a set of only OME spring sitting right here
under my desk so those will go on this weekend
and then I've got a or ordered a set of Fox I
don't even know which Fox they are. This is kind
of a blessing in disguise because I wanted to
switch the truck from digressive rear to progressive
rear to match the front. Yeah. So, by having
this issue, sure, I was trying to wait till next
year to do it but this issue kinda pushed the
the envelope. So, I gotta set a Fox 2 .0 with
the external resi. They're meant for an fourth
to fifth -gen forerunner or Sequoia or pretty
much everything except for my old forerunner.
Yeah, but that's okay the forerunner when you
put fifth -gen or third -gen or fourth -gen springs
on a third -gen It just gives you an extended
length spring. I can handle that So Yeah, I've
got that coming and I'm really excited for those
dude they were They were pricey the two for two
of them. It was like 800 bucks. Yeah That that
did that does kind of fucking hurt. I'm not gonna
lie, but Especially since I just found the same
shock for less Dang it Yeah, that sucks like
$50 less Yeah, I think they'll do good. I I was
debating between those and a set of Kings for
the rear They were about the same price, but
the Kings didn't come with an external resi the
Foxes did yeah prob probably would have been
just as good with the Kings but For me to get
the Kings with an external resi it's like 1200
bucks and I wasn't looking to spend 12 I wasn't
looking to spend 1200 no Yeah, it'll be good
though these foxes will make the forerunner feel
a whole lot better and To be fair this I'm not
saying the icon makes a bad shock. I'm very impressed
with my icon shocks I bought them because they
were very cheap. Yeah Very used I get yeah, I
got a really good deal on them. Yeah, and I use
them until they were not that good anymore So
now we got to send them into rebuild and put
on mine Yeah, that's exactly what needs to happen
Mark's truck is on Bilstein's in the rear Yeah
Right. Yes. Yeah so Icons in the front Bilstein's
in the rear so making it icon all the way around
will be a huge help. Yes, it would Yeah, so that
was that was our weekend mm -hmm that was a wrap
Now or to today when mark struck is throwing
error codes again and going into lip mode. Yeah
Can you clear them well going down the road you
shouldn't have to pull yes, I can clear it It's
just a matter I gotta be over in the slow lane
because it slowly loses progress or it loses
speed while waiting for it to reset And then
it's a little bit sluggish game back to up to
speed We'll get that figured out. It's all secondary
bypass related. Yeah, it's been an ongoing thing
I've been dealing with and I really needed to
dial it in and take care of it. I think, correct
me if I'm wrong, but it seems to happen more
when it's cold out. Yes and no. It's weird. I've
had it where it's spazzed out. I had to unplug
it, replug it back in and it doesn't do anything
for months on end. That's what's the annoying
part is that it's so inconsistent Yeah, I agree
it's ridiculous But I think with an HP tuner
we can tune it out. I might have an HP tuner.
I Do have an HP tuner. Wait a second mark. We
might be in business here. Okay You're gonna
have to buy credits. I think they're $50 apiece,
but I have a gen 1 HP tuner upstairs gotcha So
if we take that we put that in your trip or plug
it into your truck plug it into a computer load
up the Software and we should be able to go through
and delete all of your things causing codes.
Yeah Yeah Too bad it doesn't work with the third
-gen forerunner because I totally would like
to clear my o2 sensor That also means I think
we can delete permanent codes with an HP tuner.
Yeah If I can spell permanent correctly So glad
I'm only working three days this week Yeah Yeah,
so it looks like We can Start to we can make
stuff happen So yeah, that is gonna be probably
the fix dude dig out my old HP tuner from the
Dodge by a Credit to be able to put it on the
Tacoma and then We could do whatever you wanted
with the comb after that. Gotcha. I Mean if you
want to Advance timing to for whatever fucking
reason we could you wanted to throw some nitrous
on it in advance timing we could I don't feel
like blowing up the truck here could well we
wanted we won't make it that bad, but you blew
up your ram That wasn't nitrous that was a whole
different thing That was 70 -something pounds
of booze thrown into a hemi with, like, no oil.
As long as you keep up on oil, everything will
be okay. Don't forget to do an oil change. Yeah,
we could just, like, throw a little 50 -shot
of nitrous, dude. You get up to a hill climb,
you're like, I want to go up this fast. Boom,
she's fast now. Make the deepest ruts ever possible.
Hell yeah, dude. No, nitrous would be a terrible
option for that pill. Yes, it would be. But it'd
be fun. You could party on the expressway. But
yeah, no, the HP tuner working with your truck
opens up a lot of options. Okay. Uh we could
probably tune out your door ding too. Oh, I have
a door ding. When you open your door and the
keys and it doesn't go. I was just removing the
key. Why would you want to do that? Then it has
a then what happens is we're working on your
truck and it needs moved and we have to wait
for you to dig them out of your pocket. Because
you always take them out when we're in the middle
of doing something like the one time they should
be in there Sorry, I'm very cautious about your
nephew Hopping in the truck and locking it and
then closing the door with the only key I have
When has that happened one? I don't know how
to do your other nephew Okay No, he didn't lock
himself in the no I didn't say anyone out Yeah,
he would I think my sister locked the door and
used him as a scapegoat Yeah, cuz I don't see
him climbing in there locking and playing in
it at all. He's He's pretty good about staying
out of vehicles But that one was bad because
not only did she lock the door. She killed the
battery. Yeah So he couldn't even break into
it. We had to call AAA. Yeah. Poor forerunner.
It deserved better. It's okay. It's getting better.
Yeah. Yeah, dude. That was a fun trip. I feel
bad that we missed out on podcasting for so long,
but we had to get ready for this trip. Yeah.
We're kind of lax -a -daisy on maintenance. We're
lax -a -daisy on maintenance before this trip.
Yeah. Actually, we're still lax a daisy on maintenance
and I'm really glad we made it there in back
Sorry my trucks still having issues even after
being fixed Considering my brake problem being
known about for over a year and we're only fixing
it because now it's like dead a problem I've
got all the parts to fix it sitting right here
to my left. Yeah, and we haven't done it. Yeah
so Yeah. No, but that roof rack, dude, I don't
know why God made me decide I had to do it right
then. Like, I did not need it, right? And I told
you the whole time I was building it, this is
fucking stupid. I really don't need this. And
then two days before the trip, we absolutely
had to have it. Because we would not have fit
everything in that truck without that roof rack.
No, let's see one of the very uncomfortable having
two bags cross our lap Yeah, cuz I guess we could
have done that or at least one but Yeah, I don't
think two would have fit but one might have but
yeah, so we were able to put Their entire sleep
system for both people on the roof my swag and
then a pack out with recovery gear and a couple
tools and The we ended up getting the jack up
there. Yep That it's still up there. I haven't
taken it down yet That might just be the Jack's
new home to be honest I'm just glad I went through
and got that duffel though Dude and I whatever
brand that was if you want to give that to the
listeners that thing is that thing's sick The
only issue that I had and I think you just need
to coat those zipper the front pocket It's a
little pocket for storage It is not watertight
They had a little bit of water in both of our
bags. In the zipper part. Just in that pocket?
Or was it inside the bag itself? Just that pocket.
That's not great, but... As long as I don't get
anything in there, which barely anything was
going to be in that front pocket anyways. I think
I only had the shoulder strap there. Yeah, and
that's fine. One pocket out of the entire bag
wasn't waterproof. The rest of the bag was oh
yeah, and That's where the tent and the sleeping
pads and the cot and the chairs were mm -hmm,
dude Think about a year ago. We built the single
-person packout and that was great, right? Yeah
Now it's bigger than that single -person packout,
but it's fitting the cot your chair, your sleeping
pad, everything but your sleeping bag fits in
one bag. That's pretty stellar. Yes, it is. Like
I said, it's borderline of swag now. It's about
the same size as a single person swag, but it's
got a cot and a chair in it. That's pretty impressive.
Think I'm gonna pick up one of those bags to
put Wrangler's dog swag in because the bag that
comes with the dog swag Doesn't leave you enough
room to have stuff in it. Mm -hmm. I Don't see
the point in a swag that you can't leave stuff
in. Yeah Come on 23 -0. You can do better but
It the dog swags quality is good and it does
work that way. We just need a bigger bag for
you So I was by one of those it'll be fine Yeah,
and you dried your stuff out I dried out the
the poo castle yesterday Popped it up in the
shop that thing cannot be popped up of my house.
It's too tall But I popped it I popped it up
in the shop and it was so wet dude Cuz that bag
isn't waterproof. No Like it was what when we
got there from raining all the way down. Yeah
Do I pop that up to dry? It took like a day and
a half for it to not feel damp anymore. And then
I put pop the swag up today and the swag was
already dry. Hmm. Like the bag was wet, but the
swag was mostly obviously a little damp from
water from before we left. But yeah. Mostly it
was dried out. So that was pretty nice, but.
I popped that up and I poked my head in there
and I'm like, oh yeah, these upgrades were worth
it. Do you tell them about the light? Yeah, I
said something about the light. I only heard
about the pouch. Yeah, I said I got a pouch and
a light so that we can just turn a switch on.
It does look like the duct tape, because there's
nowhere to run lights on this swag. So I duct
taped them in the top corner. And it looks like
the duct tape held all the way around. cool hair
so that's pretty sick and they're they're fairy
lights and i cut them to the right size and then
just twisted the end back together so that it
would uh you know continue to work but That works
out great man. I used it one time exactly one
time because I only had one time to use it and
That's when I woke up and it was light outside,
but the swag is blackout So you can't see anything
so I woke up I turned the light on I was like
oh wow it's bright in here now I can't see a
thing It'll be great for making love I Like to
make love with the lights on That way you can
see everything. It's more like a porn video that
way I Don't know I wish I wish I could find a
cop big enough to put the swag on a car. Yeah
Because it would be nice to be able to just sit
up Hang my feet out and put my boots on. Yeah
But I don't think anyone makes a cot quite that
size Yeah, I mean there's two -person cots and
there's like the air bed cots that come in a
queen But those wouldn't really do what I need
I wonder if we could get like two large cots
and maybe Put it on those maybe I Don't know
I'll just keep rolling out like a fucking loser
I just gotta, I'll get one of those RC excavators
and dig a hole right next to the swag so that
I can put my boots on in the hole. Spent, it'd
take me the entire weekend to dig out this hole
next to my swag. Just use it once and go. If
I get to, yeah, yeah, that'd be great. Cause
those have like a bucket smaller than its can
of Zins. Yup. Ugh. Yeah, it was really fun There
aren't a lot of trips that I would tell you are
worth doing a 10 -hour drive for two days and
Anything Benji does is worth a 10 -hour drive
for two days. Oh, yeah the dude he's He over
does everything so when he does an event He puts
everything he's got into this event and it turns
out great every time because of it. Yeah It was
cool. Even the locals came out to his venue and
I'd say there were more locals at the venue than
those of us. Oh, correct. There is Definitely
a lot more people for the venue part Yeah, and
now I've got another Friends giving sticker on
my truck. Mm -hmm. So Happy about that got 2024
and 2025 Now, in a year, it'll have 2026 and
then I'll get a goal wing and I'll lose them
all. I think I've got another 2025 sticker I'm
going to save. I might see about recreating the
2024 just so I've still got it. Yeah. I don't
think there's anything else on that window I
care about. But. Yeah, it's a. Wonder how Gavin's
kids do and I'm gonna ask him Yeah, see the good
update about him We can give the listeners live
updates Jasper still alive Jester was alive the
whole time that no work. It's not that bad. No
He just had to go to the doctor But yeah mark
so I how's your work work week then mine has
been Monday was awful and today was awful and
I'm sure tomorrow is gonna be awful oh yeah I
hope it smells enough where we just don't work
tomorrow I did find out oh yeah cuz then you'd
have Wednesday Thursday Friday yeah I don't know
the winter watch went to winter warning as I
looked at my phone earlier Which is what winter
warnings worse, right? Yes. Yeah How much are
they calling for now, I don't idea I know UP
supposed to get hammered They're like looking
at 13 to 15 inches up there See are we still
looking at Seven to ten inches for my for my
location Hope happens that we actually have some
good snow wheeling this weekend Bro for real.
I'm so psyched for snow wheeling this weekend
Okay, some places are telling me seven to ten
others are telling me two to seven. I don't know
who to believe Yeah, we're supposed to get fucking
hammered this weekend and I am here for it That's
why I hurried up and got the swag off the roof
tonight. I've been really lazy about it Yeah,
but I didn't want to be taking it off in the
snow No Is it supposed to come and stay I have
no idea that For the foreseeable future We're
not supposed to get over 32 Sunday It looks like
Sunday it's gonna get up to 33, but that's not
enough to melt snow no So yeah, dude, we're looking
at the snow being here to stay if we end up with
a hard winter this year I'm gonna be fucking
stoked. Yeah We're gonna do some attempt at some
winter camping in my yard. That'll be fun. Only
in the yard, because then if we get cold, we
can bail out like little bitches. Yeah. This
is the deciding factor on if we need a diesel
heater or not. Yeah. It will be the deciding
factor. And it would I do see the merit in it
because. It's dry, so the inside of the tent
would stay dry. That's really the only benefit
I see. I just don't want to have to set up another
thing. That's the downside. But really, since
we're... On the ground, we could almost get away
with one of those all -in -one units. We wouldn't
have to, like, build our own. Yup. You good over
there? Yeah, it was itch. For the listeners,
Mark's contorting into crazy positions. He's
flexing in ways no fat man should. I'm using
my right hand to scratch the left shoulder blade.
Oh. Still no response about Jasper, this dick.
He's not supposed to be there for the kid. He's
supposed to be here to tell us that the kid's
okay Yeah, but that's that's about our hour I'm
sorry if this is kind of a lazy episode. We're
fucking beat guys Like it's been a hell of a
week. I worked in the rain today I'm really feeling
it. Hey You know what me too? Yeah I found out
that they sent me with another five -week placement.
So I'm gonna move birds and get birds in the
same week again. Oh, I Don't know that I'm gonna
still be working here in the next six months.
So that's fun. Yeah Cuz I'll tell you right now
if I had somewhere else to live I'd be telling
these people to kick rocks. This is bullshit.
Yeah Like honestly, I'd probably tell them to
kick rocks and I'd come work with you like that's
where I'm at Dude you get every weekend off.
That's the fucking dream I Don't have I wouldn't
have to deal with getting calls all the time
What's the worst that happens? I lose my beautiful
house. Okay, that's pretty big deal. Yeah, that's
a pretty big deal To any listener don't get a
job that provides you a house because it's a
false sense of security And it makes it harder
to leave Yeah, cuz what do you what are you supposed
to do I Don't know I just need to win the lottery
so don't have to work. Yeah, that's the whole
American dream not really For most of us probably
but Alright now see is there any racing news?
Oh Leah block left F1 Academy because she wants
to focus on WRC. Oh, which I'm fully behind because
I Feel like there needs to be a block in WRC.
Mm -hmm Clarin had a hard time There was the
race in Las Vegas this weekend dude that fucking
sucked. Yeah, I wish we had watched it. Yeah
I even have a TV for watching races when we're
there, and I didn't even bring it. No. Probably
didn't have enough room for it. Dude, for real.
But yeah, so McLaren ended up getting disqualified
after the race. Like, okay. And they did well.
Yeah. One took second, and then fourth? No, not
fourth. Sixth. I think it was, I think it was
second and fourth. Maybe it was second and sixth.
I think it was second and sixth. Kind of hard
to find out the original standing since it's
now DQ for them. Yeah, exactly. Okay. So originally,
uh, Lando Norris got second and Oscar got fourth.
Okay. So yeah second and fourth they they were
racing their fucking asses off dude. Yeah But
for stepping up first well -deserved that dude
is a fucking monster George Russell got third
really Without them getting DQ'd everything was
exactly where I would expect it to have landed
for the most part Yeah, but them getting them
getting DQ'd dude God that hurts. I I like for
steppin but Lando is probably I Like the two
about the same I would say But seeing Lando get
DQ'd and it was for fucking bullshit, dude. The
fucking plank was ground down too much. Yeah
I'm both of you like come on I You know as someone
who likes f1, but doesn't like get super into
it Too bad I get it I get pretty into it But
I don't understand the significance of this damn
plank like come on. It's it's a fucking piece
of the car. Yeah But she's gonna get worn down
or the race anyways And why are we still building
f1 cars with a wood base come on wait Yeah, there's
lighter things than what out there like carbon
fiber that is literally most of the vehicle already
I know Exactly. So why are they making it out
of wood? Uh -huh probably more sturdy than the
fiberglass Carbon fiber. I don't know dude a
carbon fiber block a car a carbon fiber square
is a lot more sturdy than wood It's just takes
it shatters easier than wood does yeah but Either
way their plank got worn down which is bullshit
See what else happened. Oh other racing news
more more close to this we had That race in the
desert Baja 1000 Yeah, the Baja 1000 happened
a couple weekends ago. That was a fucking hoot.
Yes It's cool Cause I like Bob, but I always
get the recaps, right? Yeah. But now we actually
have a way to stream it and watch the race as
it goes on. So like my house, we watch the entire
race pretty much. Yeah. At least trophy trucks.
Yeah. That was the only downsides that you only
saw them. You might've gotten a couple of clips
of some of the other guys, but for the most part,
they were just following the one group. Yeah.
I don't think we saw class 11 at all on the live
stream. Um, I'd like to see more of that because
it's way more fun watching beetles do that than
trophy trucks. That being said, I do want to
go back through and see how many of that one
vehicle is stuck for a long time where we just
kept seeing some of our vehicles that got stuck
on that beach. I know two. Two got stuck. Yeah,
no, I was watching clips. I think I sent one
to the group chat later of the second truck getting
stuck. And it's funny because they make that
turn. Then you know how there's like a tree or
something right? Yeah They take that out and
then fall into the same hole the other truck
had made Yeah, it's There were all the trucks
that got stuck were tool drive stuck. Yeah trucks
but it's I mean, that's a Can't even call it
shale. It's a pebble beach. That's like 15 foot
deep like it's no there's no traction across
no it was it was a good race though. Um the guy
who iron manned it on the bike. That was really
**** cool. Yeah. He made some pretty good time
with that too. **** Yeah. He he must have just
put his headphones in dude and just went. Stopped
for gas when he needed it and just kept on going.
Yeah, that was pretty **** cool. Yeah. The Baja
is so different from almost any other race because
it's not like, you know, 24 hours of LeMars has
a time cap. Yeah. But there's not a whole lot
of races that are just a thousand miles off road
with no time cap. Yeah. Like that was that was
pretty great, dude. I think that's like all the
race and events get caught up on. Want to put
more racing news in in the podcast because I
like racing But we have to stick to our two episodes
a week schedule and we've been fucking failing.
Yeah We should after this week to listeners I'm
gonna say this take it with a great saw a penny
Yeah, a little heavier than a grain of salt something
like a penny All the busyness has pretty much
died down Aside from holidays and we should be
getting back to our two episodes a week. I Know
it's kind of sucked having one episode most weeks.
No episodes one week But we should be getting
back to that. I have an episode that I've been
meaning to edit for about four weeks That I can
drop any time but it's a big one a big interview.
It's gonna be great I just I need to have the
time to sit down and edit it and actually give
it the edits it deserves. Yeah, because it's
it's that that good of an episode. Yeah. But
on that note, I'm glad you guys have stuck with
us through our terrible release. Yeah, I hope
that Gavin's solo episode about. I don't even
know what he talked about. or why he said we
weren't there but I hope it went great. Um we
weren't there because we were on this trip. It
happens. Uh so we'll catch you guys later. Later.