WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.779 welcome to the botches solo pod yes today's a 00:00:03.779 --> 00:00:08.160 solo with Gavin aka huckleberry and we are going 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:11.820 to do a little solo potting today so the boys 00:00:11.820 --> 00:00:14.279 are out doing their friends giving in Missouri 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:19.039 and hanging out with Benji and I am all alone 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:21.519 because I am a broke bitch so we're gonna do 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:23.460 a little solo pod and I want to start off with 00:00:23.460 --> 00:00:26.329 some good news There's a town called Kalkaska, 00:00:26.350 --> 00:00:30.289 Michigan that has recently shut down the idea 00:00:30.289 --> 00:00:32.890 of putting in a data center. They were proposing 00:00:32.890 --> 00:00:36.070 to put it on some public land while state -owned 00:00:36.070 --> 00:00:40.609 land in Kalkaska County. Man, they publicly flooded 00:00:40.609 --> 00:00:44.469 that talk and pretty much shot most of all of 00:00:44.469 --> 00:00:47.789 it down. So I'll read you the statement of what 00:00:47.789 --> 00:00:51.390 he ended up saying after the meeting went out. 00:00:51.490 --> 00:00:54.579 And he said, We sought public input because we 00:00:54.579 --> 00:00:56.780 want to be partners with the community we live 00:00:56.780 --> 00:00:59.299 and work in. And we heard you. That's why the 00:00:59.299 --> 00:01:02.060 company and Kalkaska Go will end its pursuit 00:01:02.060 --> 00:01:04.980 of a data center," said Matt Ryan with Rock Locker 00:01:04.980 --> 00:01:07.900 LLC. We are grateful that we had the opportunity 00:01:07.900 --> 00:01:11.079 to engage in public discourse. It is important 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:13.579 to work together as a community when making decisions 00:01:13.579 --> 00:01:16.180 about the future, even when there is a disagreement. 00:01:16.620 --> 00:01:21.519 So, that's great. So I'm ecstatic about that. 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:25.079 Kalkaska County, if you live in Michigan, has 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.519 got some of the richest and most beautiful trails 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:30.620 in Michigan. And it's got more than you could 00:01:30.620 --> 00:01:33.939 count. You could spend months up there just taking 00:01:33.939 --> 00:01:36.379 every little itty bitty trail that you find. 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:38.859 And they're all a little different. It's mostly 00:01:38.859 --> 00:01:42.780 sand, two tracks. But some of my favorite camp 00:01:42.780 --> 00:01:45.299 places in Michigan are down in Kalkaska along 00:01:45.890 --> 00:01:48.250 along the Boardman River or Manistee, or not 00:01:48.250 --> 00:01:51.409 Manistee. Gosh, I can't remember what river it 00:01:51.409 --> 00:01:53.810 is now, of course. I want to say Manistee River, 00:01:53.810 --> 00:01:56.730 and I think it is. But it's just a beautiful, 00:01:56.810 --> 00:02:00.469 beautiful area and a lot of wild, a lot of good 00:02:00.469 --> 00:02:04.569 driving. Nothing really hard, just beautiful, 00:02:04.849 --> 00:02:07.709 right? Scenic. And they were looking to put these 00:02:07.709 --> 00:02:12.069 massive data center on public land. So not only 00:02:12.069 --> 00:02:15.240 would that have taken massive amounts of public 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:20.400 land out of the consumers, campers, hunters, 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.099 you know, off -roaders, people that like to hike. 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:26.360 And that was a well -known area, too, that they 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:30.159 wanted to put it in. And they, thankfully, they 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:31.699 listened, they backed off, but it would have 00:02:31.699 --> 00:02:34.379 taken a lot out of it. And data centers do a 00:02:34.379 --> 00:02:37.139 lot of harm to the environment anyway. I mean, 00:02:37.219 --> 00:02:40.039 it's disputed. I would say look up anything else 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:42.020 for more than what I'm going to tell you, but 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.800 They need a massive, massive amount of cold water 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.620 to pour into these data centers to help with 00:02:50.620 --> 00:02:55.879 cooling these AI cooling fins or whatever. So 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.439 they have to get that cold water from somewhere 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:02.750 and it has to go somewhere. Let's say cool, you 00:03:02.750 --> 00:03:04.729 know, they're they're not putting it in anything 00:03:04.729 --> 00:03:06.990 It's just going in through some pipes to filter 00:03:06.990 --> 00:03:08.610 in and come out while they have to pull that 00:03:08.610 --> 00:03:11.490 water from a river it takes a massive amount 00:03:11.490 --> 00:03:14.370 of water which pulls it out of the river and 00:03:14.370 --> 00:03:16.729 Then they have to either dump it back in or it 00:03:16.729 --> 00:03:19.590 has to go somewhere else So if one if they're 00:03:19.590 --> 00:03:22.169 not putting it back into the river, which I'd 00:03:22.169 --> 00:03:25.150 imagine they would then that river The water 00:03:25.150 --> 00:03:27.389 level is gonna drop quite a bit, but let's say 00:03:27.389 --> 00:03:30.689 they do it's gonna be much hotter coming out 00:03:30.620 --> 00:03:33.780 And anybody who fishes, anybody who knows, you 00:03:33.780 --> 00:03:36.400 know, just basics about ecosystem knows that 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:40.020 a couple temperature differences in the water 00:03:40.020 --> 00:03:43.060 constantly is going to change the ecosystem. 00:03:44.539 --> 00:03:47.120 You know, you can't have fish going in through 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:50.479 there and, you know, it there's there's a chance 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.219 that it could damage the fishing, which is a 00:03:53.219 --> 00:03:55.780 beautiful spot to do it over there. So they were 00:03:55.780 --> 00:04:01.500 looking. on about 1 ,440 acres and it would include 00:04:01.500 --> 00:04:05.099 a gigawatt scale facility, devoted natural gas 00:04:05.099 --> 00:04:07.439 plant, as well as carbon capture and storage, 00:04:07.580 --> 00:04:11.400 and a closed loop water cooling system. So that 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.759 closed loop probably means it wouldn't be in 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.379 feeding a whole lot. I'm not sure how that works. 00:04:17.939 --> 00:04:20.519 That might negate the whole water issue, but 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.620 they still have to get that water. I doubt they're 00:04:22.620 --> 00:04:24.300 going to have it just shipped in. I don't know 00:04:24.300 --> 00:04:30.220 how that works though. But it looks like the 00:04:30.220 --> 00:04:32.779 Department of Natural Resources in July rejected 00:04:32.779 --> 00:04:35.759 Ryan's proposal to use the public land based 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:38.639 on opposition from conservation groups, missing 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.720 documentation, and misalignment with the agency's 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.620 mission. Three days before the Monday meeting, 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.000 State Rep Ken Borton from Gaylord posted a news 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.759 article on Facebook about the Kalkaska proposal 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:54.939 with the message, not on my watch. And the next 00:04:54.939 --> 00:05:00.500 day, It was Senator Michelle Hoitenga. She said, 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:02.519 last week I met directly with the Department 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.959 of Natural Resources regarding this project and 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.680 received assurances that the public hands will 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:11.579 not be sold for data centers development. And 00:05:11.579 --> 00:05:14.019 then she posted on Facebook, further the multitude 00:05:14.019 --> 00:05:16.480 of reasons I stand with the voices of the people 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.199 in firm opposition to this project. I'm confident 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.319 that our northern Michigan communities can attract 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.519 businesses that not only bolster our local economics, 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:28.480 but also align more closely with our values, 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.160 prioritizing the preservation of our land and 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.939 way of life. So, great news. We're super happy 00:05:34.939 --> 00:05:39.079 about that. And, you know, a lot, like I said, 00:05:39.500 --> 00:05:41.740 and it even goes farther into this article that 00:05:41.740 --> 00:05:43.660 says, you know, it impacts the environment such 00:05:43.660 --> 00:05:46.279 as local cold water streams like Boardman River 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:51.240 that draw trout fishermen north each year. And... 00:05:51.310 --> 00:05:54.509 Yeah, I'm just super happy about this a lot of 00:05:54.509 --> 00:05:56.870 the times there's I mean And there's a few people 00:05:56.870 --> 00:05:59.069 that say you know it's gonna happen cool Let 00:05:59.069 --> 00:06:00.730 it happen, but let it happen somewhere where 00:06:00.730 --> 00:06:03.509 nobody lives where there's no recreation at where 00:06:03.509 --> 00:06:06.810 it is You know pretty unusable for most people 00:06:06.810 --> 00:06:09.870 so I mean and I get that's not the point Because 00:06:09.870 --> 00:06:11.689 they want it to be easy to use and stuff too, 00:06:11.689 --> 00:06:16.750 but you know in my world I Couldn't care less 00:06:16.750 --> 00:06:20.300 about AI. I really couldn't so I'd rather have 00:06:20.300 --> 00:06:23.100 my public land. I'd rather have places to go 00:06:23.100 --> 00:06:27.079 to get away from things like AI. So putting a 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:31.839 massive 1400 acre AI facility in the middle of 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.839 the woods where I typically go to camp is not 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:38.279 my idea of, you know, relocating it to, I don't 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:41.480 know, somewhere else that isn't commonly used 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.399 for this kind of thing. I mean, people drive 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.899 through that area. I mean, and you can hear it. 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.060 So, you know, it's Even there was an old man 00:06:49.060 --> 00:06:54.000 in the meeting. He says he's already forced to 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:57.000 endure the constant noise from DTE Energy's compressor 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.019 facility miles away from his home. He goes, this 00:07:00.019 --> 00:07:01.639 is where we all live. In the middle of the night, 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:03.959 you can walk outside, you can hear that facility. 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.439 And we're probably about five miles away as the 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:09.139 crows fly from there. So my only concern is a 00:07:09.139 --> 00:07:11.480 bunch of lip service. He said, you're an educated 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:13.360 man and you seem like a nice guy, but I don't 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.399 trust any of it. And you know what? It's, he's 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:19.220 not, I mean, he's not wrong. I mean, you, you, 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.220 there is no reason to trust any of it. Um, so 00:07:23.220 --> 00:07:27.839 I'm, I'm cool with this. Um, very happy. Um, 00:07:28.379 --> 00:07:30.839 and I'm just looking through the rest of it. 00:07:31.139 --> 00:07:33.660 Yeah. Whitmer described the project as the largest, 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.639 largest one -time investment in state history, 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:40.819 singling her strong support. Um, and that project, 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:44.720 uh, let's see. That's pretty that's pretty crazy. 00:07:45.019 --> 00:07:47.480 This is regarding something else, and I'll I'll 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:51.759 I'll comment on this too. In Washtaw County's 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:54.160 Saleen Township, the board of trustees in September 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:57.500 voted four to one against rezoning farmland to 00:07:57.500 --> 00:07:59.399 make way for a five hundred and seventy five 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.040 acre data center proposed by Related Digital, 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:06.319 a subsidiary of a billion billionaire mega donor 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.279 Stefan Ross related companies. Two days later, 00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:11.740 the township was hit with a lawsuit alleging 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.300 exclusionary zoning with a threat from related 00:08:16.300 --> 00:08:19.420 digital to pursue monetary damages. The township's 00:08:19.420 --> 00:08:21.519 attorney suggested a settlement offered the lesser 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:24.620 of two evils, and the township ultimately reversed 00:08:24.620 --> 00:08:26.860 course with a deal that promised millions to 00:08:26.860 --> 00:08:29.519 schools, fire services, and land preservation 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:32.580 and community projects. That project, which is 00:08:32.580 --> 00:08:36.240 championed by the related digital VP, Ryan Fredericks, 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:41.240 husband of Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson. 00:08:41.580 --> 00:08:45.980 Yes, so Tell me that ain't some crock of shit 00:08:45.980 --> 00:08:49.860 right there they went ahead with it with one 00:08:49.860 --> 00:08:54.279 of the largest deals in Michigan with the VP 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:57.299 Ryan Frederick's the husband of the Secretary 00:08:57.299 --> 00:08:59.379 of State tell me there isn't something going 00:08:59.379 --> 00:09:02.799 on right there It's now under review by three 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.299 member of Michigan Public Service Commission 00:09:05.299 --> 00:09:08.679 appointed by Gretchen Whitmer Whitmer described 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:14.179 this as the largest one -time investment in state 00:09:14.179 --> 00:09:17.179 history, signaling her strong support. Benson, 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:18.860 in the meanwhile, is running her own election 00:09:18.860 --> 00:09:33.990 to replace Whitmer in 2026. from developers for 00:09:33.990 --> 00:09:36.690 hyper skilled data centers currently under consideration 00:09:36.690 --> 00:09:40.470 across the state, which may, uh, which many strongly 00:09:40.470 --> 00:09:43.769 opposed by locals. Uh, you got to remember this 00:09:43.769 --> 00:09:46.750 is a massive amount of water and that's why they 00:09:46.750 --> 00:09:49.830 want to do it here. We have one of the biggest, 00:09:49.830 --> 00:09:54.929 uh, fresh water supplies in the country and it's, 00:09:54.929 --> 00:09:57.929 we have a great state for it. I can't lie when 00:09:57.929 --> 00:10:00.450 I say that, but it's gonna, it's gonna fuck us 00:10:00.450 --> 00:10:02.659 over, dude. We're going to lose all that land. 00:10:03.299 --> 00:10:04.799 We're going to lose our fresh water. They could 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:07.080 say it's clean. They could say this and that. 00:10:07.139 --> 00:10:09.100 But we all know how that goes. It's all just 00:10:09.100 --> 00:10:11.840 like the one guy said earlier. It's all a bunch 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:13.879 of lip service. Just going to end up polluting 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.639 more. We're industrializing all the nature that 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:20.440 we fought so hard to keep. It's ridiculous. So 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:22.980 that's all I'm going to say about that. We really 00:10:22.980 --> 00:10:25.559 need to fight for our land and we need to be 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:28.299 active and engaging in these public discussions. 00:10:29.029 --> 00:10:32.429 And that public discussion was perfect example 00:10:32.429 --> 00:10:36.289 of that, right? We had most of the Calcasca community 00:10:36.289 --> 00:10:39.730 show up and express their opposition for this, 00:10:39.850 --> 00:10:43.590 and they decided not to do it. I mean, everybody 00:10:43.590 --> 00:10:45.230 was fighting against it. There are people that 00:10:45.230 --> 00:10:47.129 say, you know, hey, I drive through that area. 00:10:47.190 --> 00:10:49.590 I camp there. I fish on the Boardman River next 00:10:49.590 --> 00:10:53.190 to where you want to put this. This is not, people 00:10:53.190 --> 00:10:56.009 don't want it. We want Calcasca to stay wild, 00:10:56.009 --> 00:10:59.549 you know? And no, I'm not a native resident of 00:10:59.549 --> 00:11:03.870 Calcasca by any means, but I did live in that 00:11:03.870 --> 00:11:06.629 area while I was in high school. So I'm pretty 00:11:06.629 --> 00:11:10.470 familiar with Calcasca, Fife Lake, South Boardman, 00:11:10.850 --> 00:11:13.970 Grand Travers area. And that's beautiful area. 00:11:13.990 --> 00:11:16.509 And it should remain how it is. You know, yes, 00:11:16.529 --> 00:11:20.669 you know, the towns like Calcasca, you know, 00:11:20.669 --> 00:11:22.370 of course, they should be able to grow a little, 00:11:22.389 --> 00:11:25.210 but uh these big projects here that are taking 00:11:25.210 --> 00:11:28.549 out in the middle of nowhere just to uh bring 00:11:28.549 --> 00:11:31.049 in money i mean i get it it's a business it's 00:11:31.049 --> 00:11:33.450 a business plan it gives the people more money 00:11:33.450 --> 00:11:36.090 but i'm not about it i would like i said i'd 00:11:36.090 --> 00:11:39.750 much rather keep the land so we've already had 00:11:39.750 --> 00:11:42.970 issues with the mining to reopen i think it was 00:11:42.970 --> 00:11:47.470 reopened mines um in the up which is the upper 00:11:47.470 --> 00:11:51.700 peninsula michigan for anybody uh uh who isn't 00:11:51.700 --> 00:11:55.120 from michigan uh what is this see reopen mines 00:11:55.120 --> 00:12:01.139 upper peninsula gonna find this out here let's 00:12:01.139 --> 00:12:04.519 see when was this uh january 9 2025 michigan's 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.960 50 million dollar copper mine deal looks hard 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.820 to justify all right let's see michigan's economic 00:12:11.820 --> 00:12:14.440 development agency last march announced its plan 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:16.860 to give 50 million dollars in taxpayer money 00:12:16.860 --> 00:12:19.330 to the canadian company that might build a copper 00:12:19.330 --> 00:12:22.450 mine in the Upper Peninsula. The subsidy to Toronto 00:12:22.450 --> 00:12:25.250 -based Highland Copper came with promises of 00:12:25.250 --> 00:12:29.570 $425 million in capital investment and 380 high 00:12:29.570 --> 00:12:31.889 -wage, family -sustaining jobs in the Western 00:12:31.889 --> 00:12:34.769 Upper Peninsula. Hey, a lot of these people in 00:12:34.769 --> 00:12:37.950 Upper Peninsula already had this whole copper 00:12:37.950 --> 00:12:42.710 mine, high -wage, family -sustaining jobs. They 00:12:42.710 --> 00:12:45.730 already had this. You know, 100 years ago, you 00:12:45.730 --> 00:12:48.450 know, Norwegian and Swedish and Finnish and, 00:12:48.450 --> 00:12:52.230 you know, a lot of European settlers came over 00:12:52.230 --> 00:12:55.269 just to do these mining jobs. They lived in these 00:12:55.269 --> 00:12:57.570 mining towns. And then once the mines stripped 00:12:57.570 --> 00:12:59.990 the fucking I'm sorry, once these companies stripped 00:12:59.990 --> 00:13:02.789 the fucking mines out, they left all these fucking 00:13:02.789 --> 00:13:06.490 families to see here and basically had nowhere 00:13:06.490 --> 00:13:09.309 to go. Not saying that they wanted to leave. 00:13:09.590 --> 00:13:36.669 But now we have massive, you know, European You 00:13:36.669 --> 00:13:39.629 could drive up the middle of the UP, and while 00:13:39.629 --> 00:13:42.850 it's gorgeous, you could see skeletons of towns. 00:13:43.070 --> 00:13:45.830 especially up by Copper Harbor area. You drive 00:13:45.830 --> 00:13:47.690 through intersections where you could see hundred 00:13:47.690 --> 00:13:50.389 year old houses, old school houses, old churches. 00:13:50.809 --> 00:13:53.049 These were all mining towns that were booming 00:13:53.049 --> 00:13:55.590 in the mining days. And then in the 60s, when 00:13:55.590 --> 00:13:57.970 they pulled everything out, you know, around 00:13:57.970 --> 00:14:00.169 the 60s, when they pulled everything out, they 00:14:00.169 --> 00:14:03.190 left these fucking towns high and dry and with 00:14:03.190 --> 00:14:06.750 no source of income all alone. And it's ridiculous. 00:14:07.450 --> 00:14:10.960 And doing this again, it's just a bandaid. And 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:13.240 then they're going to take more natural resources. 00:14:13.779 --> 00:14:16.240 They're going to have to dump all of this. Mining 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.419 is not a clean thing. We all know that. So it's 00:14:20.419 --> 00:14:22.960 it's not great. I mean, the the project stalled 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.759 last month and this was done in January. So in 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:28.960 the face of immense pushback from environmental 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:32.039 groups and citizens, these concerns are likely 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:35.299 overblown. Mining is already heavily regulated 00:14:35.299 --> 00:14:37.379 to minimize damage to the environment. A new 00:14:37.379 --> 00:14:40.120 mine would pose no more than all the other mines 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.340 currently in operation. There's not a lot of 00:14:42.340 --> 00:14:44.600 mines currently in operation up there. Sorry. 00:14:45.259 --> 00:14:48.519 A lot of them now are up in the UP. A lot of 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.100 those mines now are just tourist attractions 00:14:51.100 --> 00:14:53.519 to make some money for these small towns that 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:58.149 don't have anything. So I don't know. they tried 00:14:58.149 --> 00:15:00.629 10 years ago they couldn't get it off the ground 00:15:00.629 --> 00:15:04.549 and then copper prices they plunged out and you 00:15:04.549 --> 00:15:08.610 know it's it looks like we're gonna lose it man 00:15:08.610 --> 00:15:12.970 i i mean i i'm sad sad about it because that 00:15:12.970 --> 00:15:15.549 right there i mean calcasca is beautiful but 00:15:15.549 --> 00:15:19.269 it's even more um it's like a whole different 00:15:19.269 --> 00:15:23.730 country up there dude it's gorgeous and i just 00:15:23.730 --> 00:15:28.889 it's sad you know According to the report from 00:15:28.889 --> 00:15:32.110 Limitless Media, the copper wood mine would yield 00:15:32.110 --> 00:15:35.590 about 1 .5 % of usable copper from its operations, 00:15:36.070 --> 00:15:40.409 leaving behind 98 .5 % of extracted material 00:15:40.409 --> 00:15:43.730 as toxic waste. This would result in over 30 00:15:43.730 --> 00:15:46.529 million tons of tailings, which is leftover materials 00:15:46.529 --> 00:15:49.789 produced by during mining operations containing 00:15:49.789 --> 00:15:53.549 arsenic, mercury, and selenium. stored in a massive 00:15:53.549 --> 00:15:56.789 pond only two miles from Lake Superior, the world's 00:15:56.789 --> 00:16:00.649 largest freshwater lake. Limitless Media also 00:16:00.649 --> 00:16:02.889 reports that environmentalists are warning that 00:16:02.889 --> 00:16:06.970 Michigan already understaffed Dam Safety Program 00:16:06.970 --> 00:16:12.009 might not be equipped to ensure the safety of 00:16:12.009 --> 00:16:15.250 such storage facility, especially during extreme 00:16:15.250 --> 00:16:17.570 weather events with a tailings disposal facility 00:16:17.570 --> 00:16:20.490 taller than the Statue of Liberty planned near 00:16:20.490 --> 00:16:24.059 a sensitive ecosystems Opponents fear an environmental 00:16:24.059 --> 00:16:28.100 disaster in the making. This is just ridiculous. 00:16:28.500 --> 00:16:32.039 I mean, it's ridiculous. So, Protect the Porkies, 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:35.000 a group who's opposing the project, they point 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:37.019 out that most of the copper is unlikely to stay 00:16:37.019 --> 00:16:40.519 in Michigan. And yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous, 00:16:40.700 --> 00:16:43.860 man. We're destroying it. And I could tell you 00:16:43.860 --> 00:16:46.559 right now, if they say there's a chance of it 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:49.700 happening, guess what? It's gonna happen. Eventually. 00:16:49.950 --> 00:16:53.769 I mean, you imagine that much arsenic like that. 00:16:54.149 --> 00:16:56.230 And, dude, if you've ever been up there before, 00:16:56.250 --> 00:16:59.370 you've seen Gay Beach. That is a real beach. 00:16:59.750 --> 00:17:01.850 It's a funny name, but there's a real beach called 00:17:01.850 --> 00:17:06.269 Gay Beach. And it has all of that. What do they 00:17:06.269 --> 00:17:10.069 call it? Shillings? What is that? I can't even 00:17:10.069 --> 00:17:11.769 remember what they were calling it. Tailings. 00:17:11.890 --> 00:17:15.230 So they have a whole beach made out of tailings. 00:17:15.630 --> 00:17:19.049 And supposedly. They went through all of that 00:17:19.049 --> 00:17:21.950 and sifted out all the toxic waste. That was 00:17:21.950 --> 00:17:25.029 on the beach of Lake Superior. So they've already 00:17:25.029 --> 00:17:28.210 sustained a pretty big hit there, I'm sure, with 00:17:28.210 --> 00:17:30.990 arsenic. I mean, it's called arsenic beach. Gay 00:17:30.990 --> 00:17:33.950 beach. I mean, it's all like this dark black 00:17:33.950 --> 00:17:38.009 rock. It's all just mining throw away after they 00:17:38.009 --> 00:17:42.609 do all the extraction. So all that material got 00:17:42.609 --> 00:17:44.950 loaded up and thrown out there. So there's a 00:17:44.950 --> 00:17:47.910 massive fucking beach. And I mean, like it's 00:17:47.910 --> 00:17:51.109 a it's a whole beach shore just full of this 00:17:51.109 --> 00:17:53.250 stuff and you could drive on it. It's I mean, 00:17:53.329 --> 00:17:57.470 it's horrible. So like we need more of this shit. 00:17:58.269 --> 00:18:03.210 And the fact that the tailings disposal facility 00:18:03.210 --> 00:18:06.130 is going to be taller than the Statue of Liberty. 00:18:06.869 --> 00:18:09.490 And that whole area up there is sensitive. It's 00:18:09.490 --> 00:18:12.609 wild. It's sensitive. It's a massive tourist 00:18:12.609 --> 00:18:15.440 attraction, too. It's just you're asking for 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.220 a disaster. The weather there is so unpredictable 00:18:18.220 --> 00:18:21.359 and you get so much snow that some people can't 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:23.700 even, won't even be able to get to this place 00:18:23.700 --> 00:18:26.440 in the winter. Probably guarantee, I mean, I 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:27.859 would probably guarantee it that there's gonna 00:18:27.859 --> 00:18:29.299 be days where you're not even gonna be able to 00:18:29.299 --> 00:18:31.359 get there. So who's gonna be maintaining this? 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:33.119 You know, they're gonna have to make a large 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:35.039 row, they're gonna have to keep it plowed. I 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.039 mean, it's just the money that they wanna throw 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:39.289 into this just for a little bit of copper. But 00:18:39.289 --> 00:18:41.269 the amount of harm it's going to do to everyone 00:18:41.269 --> 00:18:43.930 else is just ridiculous. We're not doing that. 00:18:43.950 --> 00:18:46.869 I mean, we are probably. I mean, how many times 00:18:46.869 --> 00:18:48.769 did the small guys actually get a win? That's 00:18:48.769 --> 00:18:50.769 why I wanted to point out the Kalkaska thing, 00:18:50.789 --> 00:18:54.450 because I don't know. I don't, I don't think 00:18:54.450 --> 00:18:57.589 it's going to work. Supporters of the copper 00:18:57.589 --> 00:19:00.549 mine. They tell the potential economic benefits 00:19:00.549 --> 00:19:05.549 for a geobic county, including 380 jobs. Woo. 00:19:05.900 --> 00:19:10.460 Paying 80 to $120 ,000 annually. That won't last 00:19:10.460 --> 00:19:13.920 long. It'll last about 20 years, maybe. President 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:17.859 CEO of MEDC told reporters back in March that 00:19:17.859 --> 00:19:20.500 the project was critical to emboldening Michigan's 00:19:20.500 --> 00:19:23.019 supply chain and creating jobs across the state 00:19:23.019 --> 00:19:25.619 while supplying copper material essential to 00:19:25.619 --> 00:19:28.380 the mobility and clean tech industries. Blah, 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:30.880 blah. I don't, I don't believe it. It's just 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:35.200 more fucking lip smack. I really, I don't. I 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:37.839 mean, look, it says the state projections show 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.119 that the project could result in $15 million 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:44.400 in annual state and municipal tax revenue. Additionally, 00:19:44.779 --> 00:19:48.079 the Lake Geovic area Chamber of Commerce is supportive 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:50.339 of the project with the president, Mary Beth 00:19:50.339 --> 00:19:53.180 DiFiancio, saying we need something to come up 00:19:53.180 --> 00:19:55.759 and build up our economy. I don't know why the 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:58.779 people that live in this area up by Eagle Mine, 00:19:59.980 --> 00:20:02.579 they'd understand that. I mean, there's an eagle 00:20:02.579 --> 00:20:05.779 mine in Marquette County. It employs fewer than 00:20:05.779 --> 00:20:08.740 80 people. This is going to die out so quick 00:20:08.740 --> 00:20:11.319 and leave that community so scarred. It's not 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.220 worth it, man. It's like throwing, you know, 00:20:14.420 --> 00:20:17.299 pine wood on a fire. Anybody of my campers know 00:20:17.299 --> 00:20:19.119 you throw pine on the fire. It's going to burn 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:21.880 real hot for about 20 minutes and then you're 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:23.700 out. You need something that's going to bring 00:20:23.700 --> 00:20:28.640 slow, slow, steady heat like a hardwood. This 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:31.400 is pine. It's going to come in It's going to 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:34.019 come fast, it's going to burn really hot, give 00:20:34.019 --> 00:20:36.539 you a lot of heat output for it, and it's not 00:20:36.539 --> 00:20:39.380 going to last. And then when it's gone, you have 00:20:39.380 --> 00:20:41.660 nothing there. When you burn all the pine around 00:20:41.660 --> 00:20:44.839 you, you have nothing left. So it's just ridiculous. 00:20:45.539 --> 00:20:47.859 And the fact that we're just giving away, we're 00:20:47.859 --> 00:20:50.900 letting this happen. I mean, I'm not saying we 00:20:50.900 --> 00:20:54.240 are, but it's just we know. Everybody who lives 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.839 in Michigan knows that it's not going to work. 00:20:58.050 --> 00:21:01.990 It's so close to Lake Superior, too. And it's 00:21:01.990 --> 00:21:07.210 right in between like a bunch of river systems. 00:21:07.690 --> 00:21:12.009 There's like six rivers around this area. So 00:21:12.009 --> 00:21:15.609 it's in between a series of three rivers on each 00:21:15.609 --> 00:21:17.390 side of it that they want to put it in where 00:21:17.390 --> 00:21:21.509 the mine is. And these three rivers on either 00:21:21.509 --> 00:21:24.250 side of this mine go straight into Lake Superior. 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:27.380 So all of this mine runoff, all of like the arsenic, 00:21:27.380 --> 00:21:29.799 the stuff that gets pulled out can potentially 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.259 get into the rivers and this ecosystem and go 00:21:32.259 --> 00:21:34.579 right into Lake Superior. It's not only killing 00:21:34.579 --> 00:21:36.980 the fish, it's killing everything else that comes 00:21:36.980 --> 00:21:40.279 along the way of it. I just you could say, hey, 00:21:40.460 --> 00:21:42.519 it's going to be clean. It's going to be controlled. 00:21:42.980 --> 00:21:45.319 It never ends up turning clean and controlled. 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:47.559 There's always a loose end. There's always someone 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:50.099 trying to save money, cutting off people that 00:21:50.099 --> 00:21:52.440 are supposed to be doing a certain job. we're 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:54.619 not paying them enough so they don't do it right 00:21:54.619 --> 00:21:57.140 and then we have toxic waste going into our rivers 00:21:57.140 --> 00:22:00.019 it's just leave it alone leave it alone we're 00:22:00.019 --> 00:22:02.380 done we don't want it we don't the only people 00:22:02.380 --> 00:22:04.259 that want it are the people making money off 00:22:04.259 --> 00:22:07.720 of it easy you know like what else can we say 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.160 and guess who's whose uh voice doesn't count 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:13.500 they're everyone's saying well oh yeah yeah everybody 00:22:13.500 --> 00:22:16.440 supports the idea of this nobody supports the 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:19.380 idea of it not native michigan you know homeowners 00:22:19.380 --> 00:22:23.259 from that area I highly, highly doubt that most 00:22:23.259 --> 00:22:25.940 of them, I would say 98 % of them say no. Maybe 00:22:25.940 --> 00:22:28.720 the other 2 % say yes, just so they have a job, 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:31.460 because jobs are so scarce there. If you're not 00:22:31.460 --> 00:22:33.940 working a trade in that area, and I don't know 00:22:33.940 --> 00:22:36.500 if anybody who lives in the city that doesn't 00:22:36.500 --> 00:22:38.980 understand this, in a small town, you have a 00:22:38.980 --> 00:22:41.759 handful of jobs to pick. You can work oil, you 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.940 could be forestry, you can go out of town and 00:22:44.940 --> 00:22:48.240 move. Sure, but in that town, you have that you 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.920 have the basics farming, mechanic, diner, grocery 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:55.519 store, gas station. You know, I'm sure I'm forgetting 00:22:55.519 --> 00:23:00.680 a few, but construction and then road crews, 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.299 stuff like that. So you have like there's a handful 00:23:04.299 --> 00:23:07.200 of jobs. You don't have factory jobs here and 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.240 there. Like a lot of these small towns don't 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:11.740 have factories. You know, they're 40 some minutes 00:23:11.740 --> 00:23:14.380 away and you can't afford the gas, let alone 00:23:14.380 --> 00:23:17.160 get their um, you know, easily in the winter, 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.880 it's just not worth the pay. And then let's say 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:22.160 you do travel a 45 minutes, you're getting paid 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.180 $15 an hour to go work your factory job up there. 00:23:25.180 --> 00:23:28.859 It's not worth it. So, um, so like, yeah, you're 00:23:28.859 --> 00:23:30.119 going to have a couple of those people that are 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:31.960 going to be like, yeah, cool. I don't have to 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:33.559 go anywhere. And then there's a mind that opens 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.440 up. It's going to give you who knows how much, 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.420 you know, they say they're high paying jobs. 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:40.259 I highly doubt that you're going to be making 00:23:40.259 --> 00:23:43.299 $80 ,000 as a minor. Maybe, maybe higher up. 00:23:43.380 --> 00:23:45.900 Yeah, sure. But I highly doubt it. I don't know. 00:23:45.900 --> 00:23:47.980 What do I know about mining? I don't know. I, 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.359 you know, I don't know what the typical miner 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:52.099 makes, but I tell you what, if they're making 00:23:52.099 --> 00:23:54.599 80 to 120 thousand dollars a year, I'll fucking 00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:57.579 move up there myself and do it. But I trust that 00:23:57.579 --> 00:23:59.720 about as much as I could trust to fucking throw 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:01.859 in a dozer over the back of my shoulder. I don't 00:24:01.859 --> 00:24:04.220 believe it. I just don't. It's just not possible. 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:06.980 And to think that it's all going to be clean 00:24:06.980 --> 00:24:09.900 and happy and they're not going to fucking completely 00:24:09.900 --> 00:24:12.579 destroy the environment by dozing all of this 00:24:12.579 --> 00:24:15.789 shit and making a All just one giant fucking 00:24:15.789 --> 00:24:18.769 cement slab is ridiculous. I just I don't believe 00:24:18.769 --> 00:24:22.029 it. So take what take what I say for a grain 00:24:22.029 --> 00:24:24.450 a grain of salt, because I'm kind of ranting 00:24:24.450 --> 00:24:27.130 on this because I feel very strongly about Michigan. 00:24:27.210 --> 00:24:30.049 I love Michigan. I love the fresh water. Me, 00:24:30.150 --> 00:24:33.730 my son, my wife. We travel it often. We camp 00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:36.670 everywhere. And seeing that destroyed for a slab 00:24:36.670 --> 00:24:38.829 of land and 20 years of mining, that's going 00:24:38.829 --> 00:24:41.519 to leave that whole area fucking destroyed. and 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:44.519 then leave the residents after they leave even 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:47.579 worse off than they probably are now, it's just 00:24:47.579 --> 00:24:50.839 not worth it. And it just irritates me that people 00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:53.579 think they will. You know, like I said earlier 00:24:53.579 --> 00:24:56.779 with the data centers, you know, this industry's 00:24:56.779 --> 00:24:59.380 come and going. We have to grow with it, of course. 00:24:59.619 --> 00:25:01.720 But if you're telling me that there's no other 00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.359 place to do it than here, you're lying to yourself, 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.730 right? You don't have to put it. right here next 00:25:07.730 --> 00:25:10.569 to all of our fresh water supply, all what makes 00:25:10.569 --> 00:25:14.150 Michigan Michigan. It's ridiculous. Any, like, 00:25:14.390 --> 00:25:17.410 lawmaker, anyone up big in Michigan who's always 00:25:17.410 --> 00:25:19.650 worried about the numbers, that's exactly why 00:25:19.650 --> 00:25:21.869 they shouldn't be in office because if they're 00:25:21.869 --> 00:25:24.450 more worried about the numbers, which I get at 00:25:24.450 --> 00:25:26.450 Michigan's business, but if they're more worried 00:25:26.450 --> 00:25:28.609 about the numbers than they are what makes Michigan 00:25:28.609 --> 00:25:32.839 Michigan, then they lost whatever, uh... sense 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:37.180 of community and patriotism for Michigan, I guess, 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:39.839 that they had a long time ago. I mean, that's 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:41.900 the issue is that politicians forget where they 00:25:41.900 --> 00:25:45.000 come from, and they start looking at dollar bills 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.039 instead of the core of things, which is why we 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.759 get millions and millions in tourism per year. 00:25:52.300 --> 00:25:55.180 snowmobiles in the winter. We get massive amounts 00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:58.019 of tourism to the waterfalls, lighthouses, lakes, 00:25:58.940 --> 00:26:02.660 public state land, all around. For camping, for 00:26:02.660 --> 00:26:05.799 the off -roading, for the dirt bikes, for hiking. 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.039 We have one of the most beautiful hiking up here. 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.720 The shipwreck tours, Mackinac Island, you name 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:16.720 it. We have a massive tourism. That's what Michigan 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.519 is about. We want people to see that Michigan 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:21.859 is beautiful we want people to come in and enjoy 00:26:21.859 --> 00:26:26.220 it and leave it without destroying it and Look, 00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:28.680 we've all we all know that we've took in it, 00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:32.259 you know taken a hit from Tourism in some ways, 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:36.359 you know people leave trash It's never never 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.900 clean and tourists are typically assholes, you 00:26:39.900 --> 00:26:42.940 know, but they are a massive amount of money 00:26:42.940 --> 00:26:45.880 and at the end of the day They're here because 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:49.180 they want to appreciate what we have. So I'm 00:26:49.180 --> 00:26:52.180 OK with sharing that as long as we're responsible 00:26:52.180 --> 00:26:55.539 and respectful of the land. But I'm not OK with 00:26:55.539 --> 00:26:59.400 putting in giant data centers and giant mining, 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.880 you know, mining towns and and destroying all 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.160 this natural beauty that we use for tourism and 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:13.539 and that and I guess locals use for. Various 00:27:13.539 --> 00:27:16.420 reasons as well, but I mean that's hunting land 00:27:16.420 --> 00:27:20.240 that's you know fishing land. It's camping It's 00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:23.519 our land that they want to sell off to the highest 00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:26.599 bidder. It's a no -go It's an absolutely not 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.059 shut that shit down. We are not talking about 00:27:29.059 --> 00:27:32.839 it. So 30 minutes in I'm ranting about those 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.579 two things The mind thing that's not new news. 00:27:36.579 --> 00:27:40.079 We knew about it the data centers. There's like 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.500 eight data centers that want to be put in in 00:27:42.500 --> 00:27:44.619 Michigan. We need to do our best to shut them 00:27:44.619 --> 00:27:47.339 down. Michigan doesn't need the money. You want 00:27:47.339 --> 00:27:50.059 money? Enhance our tourism budget. Let's work 00:27:50.059 --> 00:27:52.740 on the tourism. Let's get more people in. Let's 00:27:52.740 --> 00:27:55.859 clean these trails up. Let's work on that. Let's 00:27:55.859 --> 00:27:58.319 focus on the tourism, on the gorgeous views that 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.039 we have. Let's work on that infrastructure. Let's 00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.079 put some money into the towns to make them more 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.119 beautiful and to make them want it. I mean, there's 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.660 some of these towns are graveyards now. Let's 00:28:08.660 --> 00:28:11.579 throw some money at them. Yeah, I know. I know. 00:28:11.859 --> 00:28:15.099 But listen, like if we start rejuvenating some 00:28:15.099 --> 00:28:17.599 of these old towns, make them little holes in 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.299 the wall, make them gorgeous, fix the roads, 00:28:20.380 --> 00:28:23.900 put some jobs back in there, like like help fund 00:28:23.900 --> 00:28:27.380 the tourism, make these towns the places to be. 00:28:27.619 --> 00:28:29.920 There's so many little like you go up to Marquette 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:34.759 to Grand Marias. I forget what the one the colleges 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.759 add up there Houghton. Copper Harbor you go to 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:39.740 these towns are gorgeous and they're tourist 00:28:39.740 --> 00:28:42.559 destinations, you know Houghton's you got a college 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.339 there So that's what it is and it's got some 00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:47.500 mines but it's it's beautiful and it brings people 00:28:47.500 --> 00:28:49.660 to them and you drive down the streets and you 00:28:49.660 --> 00:28:52.039 see these giant old churches that are being worked 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.960 on and and You know you it retains all that natural 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.099 beauty from When they constructed them years 00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:01.579 ago from the mining days and when they had all 00:29:01.579 --> 00:29:04.650 that money It's gorgeous and it brings people 00:29:04.650 --> 00:29:07.450 to them. I wanted to move there because I saw 00:29:07.450 --> 00:29:10.930 how beautiful that town was. Houghton. These 00:29:10.930 --> 00:29:13.910 are, you know, Houghton, Grand Marais, Marquette. 00:29:13.990 --> 00:29:15.549 Those are all towns that I would move to in a 00:29:15.549 --> 00:29:18.549 heartbeat if I could. Just beautiful. Antanagan 00:29:18.549 --> 00:29:20.730 with the Lake of the Clouds. It's just, these 00:29:20.730 --> 00:29:23.009 are all places I would move to in a heartbeat 00:29:23.009 --> 00:29:26.140 if I could. And what brought me to those towns 00:29:26.140 --> 00:29:28.119 were the, you know, the waterfalls and the things 00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:30.220 next to them. But what would keep me in those 00:29:30.220 --> 00:29:32.519 towns is the natural beauty that's there. We 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.619 need to invest more into that. We need to invest 00:29:34.619 --> 00:29:37.519 more into the state beauty. We need to bring 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.259 more people in. And there's a lot of people like 00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:42.140 maybe Alex and Mark might are going to probably 00:29:42.140 --> 00:29:43.599 have a different opinion on this. Maybe they 00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:48.180 don't want anybody around. You know, usually 00:29:48.180 --> 00:29:50.099 when I have an opinion like this, they have the 00:29:50.099 --> 00:29:53.109 opposite. So maybe maybe I'm sure they don't 00:29:53.109 --> 00:29:55.250 support like the mining of the data centers and 00:29:55.250 --> 00:29:58.369 stuff, but maybe they don't want the extra tourism 00:29:58.369 --> 00:30:00.630 either. You know, maybe some of these towns want 00:30:00.630 --> 00:30:03.089 to stay small and they want to stay quaint and 00:30:03.089 --> 00:30:04.869 I'm okay with that. I'm just saying that we should 00:30:04.869 --> 00:30:07.329 pour some money into them, give them a higher 00:30:07.329 --> 00:30:10.130 budget so they can make their towns better, right? 00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:13.269 So that local businesses aren't dropping like 00:30:13.269 --> 00:30:15.470 flies around Michigan. We need to make, we need 00:30:15.470 --> 00:30:17.430 to give them better tax breaks. We need to do 00:30:17.430 --> 00:30:19.890 what we have to do to keep these businesses alive. 00:30:20.890 --> 00:30:22.769 For instance, I went to Sault Ste. Marie and 00:30:22.769 --> 00:30:24.809 there's a new business there. I think it was 00:30:24.809 --> 00:30:27.970 opened up a little over a year ago, and it's 00:30:27.970 --> 00:30:30.869 for making pasties. And they made the whole little 00:30:30.869 --> 00:30:33.849 business like, like this really homemade feeling. 00:30:33.890 --> 00:30:35.589 Like you go in there, it's like walking into 00:30:35.589 --> 00:30:38.750 your grandma's house, you know, in the 80s, 90s. 00:30:39.130 --> 00:30:42.950 It was absolutely gorgeous. And the food was 00:30:42.950 --> 00:30:45.410 delicious. The atmosphere was great. The owners 00:30:45.410 --> 00:30:48.359 talked to you straight there. and you know they 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.180 just blew up recently because a guy went in just 00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:53.119 traveling around looking for beautiful places 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.539 in Michigan he traveled around and found that 00:30:55.539 --> 00:30:59.079 place and talked about it on his YouTube and 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.519 said how beautiful it was and boom you know they 00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.579 the chicken ones were sold out they only had 00:31:03.579 --> 00:31:06.460 beef left and and honestly they said that they 00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:08.240 were gonna be sold out pretty quick and we were 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.279 there on a Wednesday so that wasn't even close 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.109 to Friday yet and everything they had gotten 00:31:14.109 --> 00:31:16.089 ready to pre -make had been sold out. We were 00:31:16.089 --> 00:31:18.910 lucky enough to get a beef and a spicy beef and 00:31:18.910 --> 00:31:23.529 then a triple berry, which was absolutely stellar. 00:31:24.069 --> 00:31:25.950 And I think it's called the pasty company or 00:31:25.950 --> 00:31:27.849 something like that in Sault Ste. Marie. It's 00:31:27.849 --> 00:31:30.750 beautiful. It's homey. And like I said, the owners 00:31:30.750 --> 00:31:32.869 were just like they were on YouTube and I saw 00:31:32.869 --> 00:31:35.670 them from YouTube. So he's the one that brought 00:31:35.670 --> 00:31:38.170 me to that place. And that's what we need is 00:31:38.170 --> 00:31:40.660 we have all these travelers. All these people 00:31:40.660 --> 00:31:43.480 online, influencers and stuff, they travel out 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:47.099 to these places. They get 50 million views and 00:31:47.099 --> 00:31:50.160 they sold that company out. That company is probably 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:53.099 running pretty good right now. Positive. And 00:31:53.099 --> 00:31:54.480 they're going to probably be sitting pretty good 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.319 in the winter, you know? So it's just one of 00:31:57.319 --> 00:31:59.440 those things where it's like, like we need to 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.619 invest more into that because when we have those 00:32:01.619 --> 00:32:03.940 people come in and they go, wow, this is gorgeous. 00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.970 This place is beautiful. It's gonna bring more 00:32:06.970 --> 00:32:09.849 and more and more people in and I want to share 00:32:09.849 --> 00:32:11.930 my land You know, I don't want to give up some 00:32:11.930 --> 00:32:14.569 of my favorite camp spots, but I want to share 00:32:14.569 --> 00:32:16.410 the land that I think is beautiful I want other 00:32:16.410 --> 00:32:19.349 people to see it. I want them to experience what 00:32:19.349 --> 00:32:23.029 I experience and You know, I'd rather that than 00:32:23.029 --> 00:32:25.650 a mine, you know, why don't we just invest more 00:32:25.650 --> 00:32:27.890 money into that? How about we stop fixing the 00:32:27.890 --> 00:32:30.390 roads fuck the roads for a couple years, you 00:32:30.390 --> 00:32:32.910 know make them they're just already fucking potholes 00:32:32.910 --> 00:32:36.069 anyway, like I've never seen our roads actually 00:32:36.069 --> 00:32:39.269 look great unless they were just paved and it's 00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:44.230 like a rural county road. So yeah, that's the 00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:46.829 rant about that. So protect our environment, 00:32:47.289 --> 00:32:49.710 protect our local interests. Let's bring tourism 00:32:49.710 --> 00:32:52.430 back, back heavy. Dude, Christmas used to be 00:32:52.430 --> 00:32:54.970 like the coolest town in the U .P. and now there's 00:32:54.970 --> 00:32:57.650 nothing left. There's like a giant wooden Santa 00:32:57.650 --> 00:32:59.549 and that's about all that's left there. Sad. 00:32:59.809 --> 00:33:02.740 And that was within the last 20 years. because 00:33:02.740 --> 00:33:04.420 i remember going there as a kid and it was a 00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:08.460 lot cooler i mean it's just it's dying so quick 00:33:08.460 --> 00:33:10.599 soon these towns won't be able to sustain themselves 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.160 everyone's gonna move away these towns are just 00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:14.859 gonna turn into ghost towns there'll be nothing 00:33:14.859 --> 00:33:17.359 there anymore except the old timers that talk 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.599 about how good it was back in the day that's 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.700 as you have is a lot of the old guys and stuff 00:33:21.700 --> 00:33:24.500 that talk about the mining in the 60s and 70s 00:33:24.500 --> 00:33:27.039 uh you know 60s when they pulled out or whatever 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.440 and then the 70s the struggle you know it is 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.730 what it is i'm just saying they uh I think we 00:33:32.730 --> 00:33:34.549 should fight it. I think we should be changing 00:33:34.549 --> 00:33:38.230 how we view Michigan. It's, I mean, you could 00:33:38.230 --> 00:33:41.190 use Detroit as a massive industrial complex. 00:33:41.509 --> 00:33:44.470 You can use Flint as a massive place for that, 00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:48.789 but leave the rural parts of it to build and 00:33:48.789 --> 00:33:53.950 beautify, extend tourism, throw money at it, 00:33:54.289 --> 00:33:56.170 man. Fuck it. I don't care what the budget is. 00:33:56.269 --> 00:33:58.210 Throw money at it. Our fucking Great Lakes need 00:33:58.210 --> 00:34:02.109 to look the way they make us feel you know so 00:34:02.109 --> 00:34:06.769 that's the fun you know that's the fun so you 00:34:06.769 --> 00:34:09.889 know I maybe we bring back I don't know start 00:34:09.889 --> 00:34:12.210 putting more reservations out for Native Americans 00:34:12.210 --> 00:34:15.510 protect the land so they can't be taken I don't 00:34:15.510 --> 00:34:17.869 know whatever we have to do to protect it if 00:34:17.869 --> 00:34:20.130 that means I can't travel on it but it's protected 00:34:20.130 --> 00:34:23.010 fine whatever I just want it protected. Yeah, 00:34:23.050 --> 00:34:25.110 I'd love to travel on it. I love to use it. I 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:27.190 love to be on it and around it and blah, blah, 00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:30.090 blah. But it's disappearing, man. And we're going 00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:32.349 to lose it. It's just a matter of time. And we 00:34:32.349 --> 00:34:35.130 need to slow it down a little. AI is already 00:34:35.130 --> 00:34:39.130 crazy as it is, man. AI is nuts. So we're going 00:34:39.130 --> 00:34:40.909 to move on from there. We're going to talk a 00:34:40.909 --> 00:34:45.389 little bit about, I guess, my winter prep and 00:34:45.389 --> 00:34:47.409 what I'm doing right now, what my plans are. 00:34:48.059 --> 00:34:50.840 Personally for me, my winter prep has already 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.260 started. I've already taken out the big appliances 00:34:53.260 --> 00:34:55.820 out of my truck. Anything that takes a battery 00:34:55.820 --> 00:34:58.360 that charges, I have it pulled out so I'm not 00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.360 draining or killing the battery. So the fridge 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.730 is out. Most of my headlamps and stuff are out. 00:35:03.750 --> 00:35:07.409 I have my propane heater in there You know my 00:35:07.409 --> 00:35:09.829 gloves my cold weather gears getting put in there 00:35:09.829 --> 00:35:14.210 muck boots Aluminum shovel all that good stuff. 00:35:14.210 --> 00:35:17.010 I you know I don't plan on needing it, but you 00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:21.389 never plan on it until you do right so Got that 00:35:21.389 --> 00:35:24.269 stuff on there We're getting ready. We're supposed 00:35:24.269 --> 00:35:27.750 to get a storm here soon today is we're just 00:35:27.750 --> 00:35:31.639 a couple days off from thanksgiving is the 24th 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.260 so december's coming quick so we're gonna start 00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:35.900 getting some snow here and we gotta be ready 00:35:35.900 --> 00:35:39.400 for it tires are great i'm running falcon wild 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:46.780 peak um 83 yeah 83s they're great in the snow 00:35:46.780 --> 00:35:49.199 uh they're good on ice they're great and everything 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.880 else aired down they're even better of course 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.929 so I had them last year. This is my second winter 00:35:54.929 --> 00:35:56.989 with them and pretty confident that they're gonna 00:35:56.989 --> 00:36:00.969 do well. And yeah, I'm excited to do some snow 00:36:00.969 --> 00:36:04.929 wheeling, man. I want powder. I did, I want like 00:36:04.929 --> 00:36:06.809 three feet of powder to go snow wheeling through. 00:36:07.570 --> 00:36:12.070 Oh, I'm excited. So once we get that, I can actually 00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:14.289 do some trails and do some, I mean, every trail 00:36:14.289 --> 00:36:16.510 is more fun when you got snow and stuff on it, 00:36:16.510 --> 00:36:19.210 so. the only downside is you go through the trails 00:36:19.210 --> 00:36:21.969 that you know had had like a shit ton of ruts 00:36:21.969 --> 00:36:24.190 and stuff before and you want to make sure you 00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:27.170 don't fall into those ruts when you get like 00:36:27.170 --> 00:36:29.130 a massive amount of snowfall you can't tell where 00:36:29.130 --> 00:36:30.889 those ruts are they you know everything looks 00:36:30.889 --> 00:36:34.769 shallower than it is uh i did i did a trail out 00:36:34.769 --> 00:36:37.469 in white cloud which is about 40 some minutes 00:36:37.469 --> 00:36:41.050 away from me last year and there was a good amount 00:36:41.050 --> 00:36:43.989 of snowfall. The trail didn't look too bad. Sienna's 00:36:43.989 --> 00:36:46.409 sleeping in the passenger seat. Jasper's playing 00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:48.389 in the back passenger, you know, in the back 00:36:48.389 --> 00:36:52.429 seat in the, um, in his, you know, his little 00:36:52.429 --> 00:36:55.869 baby seat or whatever. And I'm driving, she's 00:36:55.869 --> 00:36:57.849 sleeping. I'm like, okay, you know, this doesn't 00:36:57.849 --> 00:37:02.070 look bad. So I go into this side. I, it was big 00:37:02.070 --> 00:37:04.610 and rutted, a whole fucking truck jumped down 00:37:04.610 --> 00:37:06.309 into it. As soon as I realized what happened, 00:37:06.329 --> 00:37:09.090 I hit the gas and Because I thought you know 00:37:09.090 --> 00:37:10.750 I didn't want to get stuck there I didn't have 00:37:10.750 --> 00:37:13.409 a winch at that time so I just gunned it got 00:37:13.409 --> 00:37:17.309 out of it pretty easily, but You know it's not 00:37:17.309 --> 00:37:19.829 not as deep as thankfully as it could have been 00:37:19.829 --> 00:37:22.570 But it was deeper than I thought and it jarred 00:37:22.570 --> 00:37:24.250 the truck around a good amount enough to wake 00:37:24.250 --> 00:37:27.869 everyone up oh Boy, I was hearing about that. 00:37:27.869 --> 00:37:30.670 You know and that's like the bad part of snow. 00:37:30.670 --> 00:37:34.710 You know snow wheeling does hide Some of the 00:37:34.710 --> 00:37:38.360 you know you get a nice fresh coat of ice and 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.639 in an area that's full of water and then it snows 00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.539 on top of that ice, you can't necessarily see. 00:37:44.619 --> 00:37:46.500 You have to pay attention to the sides of the 00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:49.900 trail where it looks like it drops. So there 00:37:49.900 --> 00:37:51.420 are certain parts of the trail where it looks 00:37:51.420 --> 00:37:54.599 washed out. The sides of it, you could tell where 00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.500 the natural part of the land is. And then where 00:37:57.500 --> 00:38:01.900 it looks like it's been war away from heavy use. 00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:04.000 You can kind of tell that parts of the trail. 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.239 You could see ruts leading up to the area, typically. 00:38:07.610 --> 00:38:09.329 So you want to keep an eye out for that stuff 00:38:09.329 --> 00:38:11.449 when you're snow wheeling. Uh, that's usually 00:38:11.449 --> 00:38:13.869 a good indicator that there's something, there's 00:38:13.869 --> 00:38:17.690 something going on and yeah, it sucks. I, I typically, 00:38:17.869 --> 00:38:20.429 I will go in if I know that there's a hole there 00:38:20.429 --> 00:38:22.510 and there's ice covering it, I'll go into it 00:38:22.510 --> 00:38:24.769 slowly. I have a wench now. I can pull myself 00:38:24.769 --> 00:38:28.769 out if I need to. I'm not bombing a hole that 00:38:28.769 --> 00:38:32.889 some guy went into with, you know, forties, 42s 00:38:32.889 --> 00:38:36.130 and you know, and just Launched it through it. 00:38:36.130 --> 00:38:38.150 I'm not gonna take my truck through four inches 00:38:38.150 --> 00:38:42.030 three inches of Snow then two inches of ice and 00:38:42.030 --> 00:38:44.269 then you know a foot of water. It's just not 00:38:44.269 --> 00:38:46.650 worth it for my truck That's not I want to keep 00:38:46.650 --> 00:38:50.309 driving it. You know, it's unnecessary Shit to 00:38:50.309 --> 00:38:52.630 put it through. So yeah, you gotta watch out 00:38:52.630 --> 00:38:55.969 for that stuff and hopefully when you When you're 00:38:55.969 --> 00:38:57.969 driving you can kind of get a feel for it But 00:38:57.969 --> 00:39:00.929 if you if you're new to snow driving and driving 00:39:00.929 --> 00:39:04.980 off -road in the snow it's very different you 00:39:04.980 --> 00:39:08.900 know normal trails turn into hard trails um and 00:39:08.900 --> 00:39:10.699 not hard hard but you know when you get everything 00:39:10.699 --> 00:39:13.119 iced up and you're going down a steep decline 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.820 or incline um you know and the whole thing's 00:39:15.820 --> 00:39:18.559 ice makes it a lot harder when you have snow 00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.420 and it melted and you have like the slush can't 00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:23.880 get traction that's a thing too i mean like the 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.739 best wheeling is powdered snow wheeling that's 00:39:26.739 --> 00:39:29.670 great you know We never get typically enough 00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:31.769 for you to sink your truck in just by driving, 00:39:31.969 --> 00:39:35.610 although that would be fun. But a lot of it's 00:39:35.610 --> 00:39:39.730 the slosh, the pits that you find. So it's good 00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:41.710 to look for those indicators, like I said, and 00:39:41.710 --> 00:39:43.989 to make sure that you're prepared. I mean, I 00:39:43.989 --> 00:39:46.429 did get stuck last winter trying to save someone 00:39:46.429 --> 00:39:50.519 in the Muskegon area. and I tried digging myself 00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.280 out I didn't have a strong enough shovel for 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.460 it my plastic one broke that's why I moved up 00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:56.719 to aluminum and I'll eventually move up to steel 00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:58.920 but now I have a winch because I got a winch 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.860 shortly after that happened and I'm good now 00:40:01.860 --> 00:40:04.280 you know if I get in that situation you know 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:06.239 I could just pull myself out I you know I know 00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:09.280 what I'm doing so recovery is important watching 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.739 out for other idiots if you're recovering idiots 00:40:11.739 --> 00:40:14.900 that have gone off into the ditch Be careful. 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:18.179 Look at risk management. If it's not worth it 00:40:18.179 --> 00:40:20.480 and it looks sketchy to you, and you're not 100 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:22.880 % confident that you can get them out, don't. 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.960 I know it sucks. I know they probably think it 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:28.659 sucks too, but you know, I've heard a lot of 00:40:28.659 --> 00:40:31.039 horror stories about, you know, damaging these 00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.260 cars or damaging a bumper or something, these 00:40:33.260 --> 00:40:35.360 people coming after you, and you're liable because 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.800 you pulled them out, you know, and you don't 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.699 have insurance, you don't have any of that for 00:40:40.699 --> 00:40:43.260 that type of job, so... you're you're liable 00:40:43.260 --> 00:40:46.159 for it. Thankfully I've never had that issue. 00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:50.000 I've pulled a few people out, not a lot, but 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.159 you know it's it's one of those things that people 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.860 that do it frequently they they talk about the 00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:56.679 fact that they just stopped doing it because 00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:59.059 unless they really needed it or you know they 00:40:59.059 --> 00:41:02.340 looked extremely safe as far as extremely safe 00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:05.920 goes but like it looked safe to practice and 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.780 do it you know they don't even do it anymore. 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.599 a lot of the times sometimes even the off -roader 00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:13.619 guys won't you know like the other off -roaders 00:41:13.619 --> 00:41:15.880 because they're worried about damage on theirs 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.559 or the other people's vehicles a lot of the times 00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.280 when we do like off -road rescues it's a very 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.079 you know it's unpaid we're just doing it to be 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.119 nice so and you know me and alex still do it 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.420 we went on a few last year and and it's coming 00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:32.599 up again i'm sure we'll be hitting a few couple 00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:35.949 this year and So looking forward to that. It's 00:41:35.949 --> 00:41:38.969 just we got to make sure we minimize risk to 00:41:38.969 --> 00:41:42.389 us, our vehicles and to their vehicles. And sometimes 00:41:42.389 --> 00:41:44.449 it's just not worth it. If the car looks like 00:41:44.449 --> 00:41:46.449 it's going to get damaged, if you can't get a 00:41:46.449 --> 00:41:49.949 good point to mount your stuff on, like you got 00:41:49.949 --> 00:41:52.349 the people that drive like challengers. If I 00:41:52.349 --> 00:41:54.150 can't reach under your fucking car, I'm not going 00:41:54.150 --> 00:41:56.590 to try pulling you out. You know, if you don't 00:41:56.590 --> 00:42:02.440 have a very easy tow hook or point to. to latch 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:05.679 on for I'm not I'm not doing it man I'm not risking 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.500 you know getting sued for damaging your body 00:42:08.500 --> 00:42:10.780 on your car and you could say oh I would never 00:42:10.780 --> 00:42:12.719 do that never do that well wait till you get 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.820 home and you think about it a little bit we're 00:42:14.820 --> 00:42:18.119 not chancing it right so I'm excited about that 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.340 if you drive a car I don't know why you're listening 00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:22.539 to this but if you drive a car in a two -wheel 00:42:22.539 --> 00:42:26.079 drive well you know have fun practice in the 00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:27.980 parking lots you should always practice in a 00:42:27.980 --> 00:42:29.980 parking lot find an old parking lot of a church 00:42:29.980 --> 00:42:33.960 or something that isn't being used and do some 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:35.579 donuts in it when there's snow on the ground 00:42:35.579 --> 00:42:38.280 when the ground is frozen learn how your car 00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.260 handles learn what it feels like when your car 00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:42.760 starts to go out of control and then practice 00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:47.219 on making your car um get back into that control 00:42:47.219 --> 00:42:49.980 you know there is there is a trick to doing it 00:42:49.980 --> 00:42:51.699 you know you don't ever want to push on the gas 00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:53.860 you never want to slam on the brakes you want 00:42:53.860 --> 00:42:57.280 to keep that traction so slamming on the the 00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.719 gas doesn't always help Sometimes it breaks whatever 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.760 traction you do have slamming on the brakes brakes 00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.039 traction for what you do have and then you slide 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.940 so usually letting off the gas or Gently tapping 00:43:09.940 --> 00:43:12.679 the brakes to kind of slow yourself down until 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:16.199 your tires catch And and then just keeping your 00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:18.400 you know your wheel your tires pointed on the 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:21.519 area you want to go So a lot of people overcompensating 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.400 it Kind of leads them off the path But just like 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.179 if you're drifting or anything and you'll learn 00:43:26.179 --> 00:43:27.539 that when you're in the parking lot You want 00:43:27.539 --> 00:43:29.480 to steer your tire towards the area you want 00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:34.219 to go? And you can use that to You know the counter 00:43:34.219 --> 00:43:36.300 steer and to fix your issue. You never want to 00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:39.699 just slam on the brakes And you know what a lot 00:43:39.699 --> 00:43:42.000 of the times and I've been in this too where 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:44.940 You're following behind a car and you don't pick 00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:47.360 a safe amount of distance to follow behind that 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.760 car They slam on their brakes you a lot of the 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:51.420 times I would have just went right into them 00:43:51.710 --> 00:43:53.789 You know, that's why they make anti -lock brakes 00:43:53.789 --> 00:43:57.349 and stuff too. But like, um, so, I mean, just 00:43:57.349 --> 00:44:00.170 be prepared. You know, if you can't stop fast 00:44:00.170 --> 00:44:02.789 enough and you know it, take the, take the better 00:44:02.789 --> 00:44:05.070 path. Right. So a lot of the times that means 00:44:05.070 --> 00:44:07.610 me going on the shoulder of the road. I've done 00:44:07.610 --> 00:44:09.849 it a few times. You know, my truck's big. It's 00:44:09.849 --> 00:44:13.190 heavy. Um, you know, in snow storms, you can't 00:44:13.190 --> 00:44:15.389 see very well that I had one guy that was on 00:44:15.389 --> 00:44:18.389 me in Newego, uh, the town that I lived near 00:44:18.389 --> 00:44:21.329 and he was driving in front of me, had his, um, 00:44:21.340 --> 00:44:24.320 his flashers on going 30 mile an hour i was like 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.199 okay cool you know i was following a little close 00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:27.940 to him because i was planning on passing him 00:44:27.940 --> 00:44:30.219 because it was not worth going 30 mile an hour 00:44:30.219 --> 00:44:32.679 it was okay it was just heavy snow and he just 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.800 had shitty headlights and he had his flashers 00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:37.500 on so you couldn't really necessarily tell when 00:44:37.500 --> 00:44:39.780 he hit the brakes and when he finally did it's 00:44:39.780 --> 00:44:42.840 pretty much too late for me and uh i swerved 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.300 around him thankfully i had enough time And I 00:44:45.300 --> 00:44:47.840 didn't slam on my brakes. I just swerved onto 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:50.099 the shoulder of the road. I kept my tires on 00:44:50.099 --> 00:44:52.019 the area that I wanted them to be and I went 00:44:52.019 --> 00:44:55.000 around them. And you should practice that. Take 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.739 it into the parking lots. Practice it. Make sure 00:44:57.739 --> 00:44:59.659 you have weight in your truck. If your trucks 00:44:59.659 --> 00:45:02.840 really having the front really light in the back, 00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:05.019 put some weight in it, man. A lot of people throw 00:45:05.019 --> 00:45:08.480 like sandbags in there. They'll throw cat litter. 00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:11.039 And a cool little trick you can use is not only 00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.610 you can use that as weight, if you get stuck 00:45:13.610 --> 00:45:16.230 somewhere where it's like just icy you know like 00:45:16.230 --> 00:45:18.730 your driveway or something where it's just ice 00:45:18.730 --> 00:45:20.250 and your tires are just kind of spinning you 00:45:20.250 --> 00:45:23.349 can actually open those bags up and throw the 00:45:23.349 --> 00:45:25.309 contents on the ground that's a lot of the times 00:45:25.309 --> 00:45:27.670 people would use like coarse sand because you 00:45:27.670 --> 00:45:30.429 can use that sand to throw down on the ice and 00:45:30.429 --> 00:45:32.829 help you get traction to get out of there kitty 00:45:32.829 --> 00:45:35.849 litter works the same way but um i would use 00:45:35.849 --> 00:45:38.909 natural kitty litter but you know it's just one 00:45:38.909 --> 00:45:41.809 of those tips and tricks and you know Alex and 00:45:41.809 --> 00:45:44.210 mark they don't prep much for much of anything 00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:46.769 really they keep a lot in their vehicles, but 00:45:46.769 --> 00:45:50.690 they don't they're not like a You know survivalist 00:45:50.690 --> 00:45:53.150 preppers. You know they don't you don't do that 00:45:53.150 --> 00:45:55.989 Which is completely fine a lot of the times they 00:45:55.989 --> 00:45:57.829 have the resources and stuff to get them out 00:45:57.829 --> 00:45:59.989 of it I like to over prepare for everything I 00:45:59.989 --> 00:46:03.369 like to keep a way to make fire to heat to cook 00:46:03.369 --> 00:46:06.030 I like a way to you know I have like to have 00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:08.530 a knife and stuff in there. I want to be able 00:46:08.530 --> 00:46:12.449 to Survive on my own if I ever got into an issue 00:46:12.449 --> 00:46:14.530 to where I couldn't get out where we're broke 00:46:14.530 --> 00:46:17.829 down I have a couple of MREs like freeze -dried 00:46:17.829 --> 00:46:20.769 meals in the car Water isn't gonna be an issue 00:46:20.769 --> 00:46:23.030 if there's a shit ton of snow on the ground I 00:46:23.030 --> 00:46:26.570 have all my warm weather stuff there fire starters 00:46:26.570 --> 00:46:32.250 You know utensils and stuff to camp in So I mean 00:46:32.250 --> 00:46:35.059 I have I have a good amount of stuff that is 00:46:35.059 --> 00:46:37.980 already there you know propane tank for the stove 00:46:37.980 --> 00:46:41.780 which is also for the heater so i like to be 00:46:41.780 --> 00:46:45.059 prepared just in case you know i want i want 00:46:45.059 --> 00:46:47.039 to be prepared just in case for someone else 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.139 too right so so i have you know the air compressor 00:46:50.139 --> 00:46:52.719 the winch i have all my recovery gear in the 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.739 truck i have gloves and all that in the truck 00:46:55.739 --> 00:46:59.119 i if it comes to me rescuing someone else or 00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:00.900 pulling someone else out of the dish to make 00:47:00.900 --> 00:47:03.239 sure they can actually get home I want to make 00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:06.199 sure that I'm prepared for myself and other people. 00:47:06.539 --> 00:47:08.239 That's why I have a bunch of extra tools too 00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.800 for myself and other people. I can't tell you 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.739 how many times even this summer that you know 00:47:13.739 --> 00:47:16.000 I ended up using my tools to help other people 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.079 because they didn't have the tool they needed 00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.400 and I did so you know usually it's just sockets 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.900 or a grinder flat disc or you know something 00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:28.139 like that but it helps you know. I have wire 00:47:28.139 --> 00:47:30.440 connectors a bunch of different wires for electrical 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.550 so you know it's just good stuff to have it's 00:47:33.550 --> 00:47:36.429 good to be prepared um sure you don't have to 00:47:36.429 --> 00:47:37.889 a lot of the times you'll have service a lot 00:47:37.889 --> 00:47:40.730 of times you can get help blah blah blah um but 00:47:40.730 --> 00:47:43.449 you know i i want to be prepared just in case 00:47:43.449 --> 00:47:46.070 i always want to be prepared for the worst that 00:47:46.070 --> 00:47:48.530 happens and i'd love to just not need it a lot 00:47:48.530 --> 00:47:50.550 of the times that's the case a lot of the times 00:47:50.550 --> 00:47:54.639 you know i did break uh it's break down but My 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:56.360 alternator went out in the middle of winter once 00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:59.059 and I was on the side of the road with nothing. 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.599 I had my jump starter on, attached that to the 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.099 truck, got it to a spot, had all my cold weather 00:48:04.099 --> 00:48:06.119 gear in there, all my tools in there, pulled 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.219 the alternator out. My wife met me there, we 00:48:09.219 --> 00:48:11.599 went to the auto shop, came back, put it on. 00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:14.480 I got everything done right there. And I would 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.179 have had to go back and forth to the house to 00:48:16.179 --> 00:48:19.199 do that, which was 40 minutes away. Thankfully, 00:48:19.500 --> 00:48:21.039 you know, I had everything I needed right there 00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:23.750 in the truck, so. Just one of those things, you 00:48:23.750 --> 00:48:28.150 know. Good to be prepared. So on that note, we're 00:48:28.150 --> 00:48:29.889 going to wrap it up. Thank you guys for sticking 00:48:29.889 --> 00:48:32.849 through me. I guess no preparedness wasn't really 00:48:32.849 --> 00:48:34.889 what I was going to go into, but just for snow 00:48:34.889 --> 00:48:37.510 wheeling and fun anyway. And then, you know, 00:48:37.510 --> 00:48:39.610 the environmental talks with the, you know, the 00:48:39.610 --> 00:48:41.769 state of Michigan and my, my state that I love 00:48:41.769 --> 00:48:45.409 and take pride in. So enjoy that rant. Hopefully 00:48:45.409 --> 00:48:47.590 you guys keep an eye out for anything else that 00:48:47.590 --> 00:48:50.440 happens. If you, if something pops up. It's a 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.900 big deal. You know, let me know let the botches 00:48:52.900 --> 00:48:56.019 crew know You know, you could check my Instagram 00:48:56.019 --> 00:48:59.340 out Huckleberry's outdoor adventures or the botches 00:48:59.340 --> 00:49:02.480 Instagram send us a message Say hey, this is 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.440 happening. Let us talk about it Let us get it 00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.380 out there and then you know We can talk to the 00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:09.980 groups that were associated with we have multiple 00:49:09.980 --> 00:49:13.139 groups in Michigan large off -road outdoor groups 00:49:13.139 --> 00:49:16.449 that were associated with And then we're associated 00:49:16.449 --> 00:49:19.909 with some of the bigger overlanders in the country 00:49:19.909 --> 00:49:22.730 that talk about this stuff. Won't name names 00:49:22.730 --> 00:49:26.650 because we're associated. We're not close friends. 00:49:27.170 --> 00:49:29.949 We're associated. And we can pass this around. 00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:33.250 It's something that needs to be brought into 00:49:33.250 --> 00:49:35.010 the public eye. It's just one of those things 00:49:35.010 --> 00:49:37.869 that we want to do our part and other people 00:49:37.869 --> 00:49:40.940 feel the same way as us. So, yeah, I mean, send 00:49:40.940 --> 00:49:43.119 us some messages, let us know. If you have a 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.840 request, if you want to be on and you want to 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.480 be interviewed and you want to talk and chit 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.960 chat with us, let us know. The winter's coming. 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.139 We want to be able to get some people on here. 00:49:53.179 --> 00:49:55.139 We want to be able to chit chat with other people, 00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:58.480 talk about the rigs, the future. You know, pretty 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.860 much all you have to have is a decent mic, a 00:50:00.860 --> 00:50:06.000 quiet area to record. And yeah, and a decent 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.679 internet connection, of course, too. A rig helps, 00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.460 but plans work, too. And just talk about it. 00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:14.579 If you're a company and you want to talk about 00:50:14.579 --> 00:50:17.039 an upcoming product or something you're excited 00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.420 for and you want to bring it to our attention 00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:21.460 and ask us how we feel, we can give you an honest 00:50:21.460 --> 00:50:24.900 opinion. If you want to send a product to us 00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:27.340 and have us test it and give you an honest opinion, 00:50:27.420 --> 00:50:30.420 let us know. We all wheel pretty frequently, 00:50:30.420 --> 00:50:32.579 you know, every other weekend, every weekend. 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.960 We do some kind of driving. We do put some kind 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:41.400 of uh you know work into it so so yeah man thanks 00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:45.199 for joining me on this hour -long solo pod and 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:46.559 we'll see you next time