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Welcome to botches off -road join us as we talk

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about everything from gear reviews to rock landing

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car camping to tent camping and all things to

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do with the outdoors Well, he didn't get it right

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there for it. I said it all wrong I just made

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it right, but you know what we'll roll with it.

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So yeah, welcome to the pod Alex has taken too

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long to bring up the script. So I made the script

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Mark what the fuck you that? Blood orange cranberry

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hard cider. That sounds fucking terrible. It's

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intriguing by Blake's Intriguing is the wrong

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word for drink choices. Yeah I've got a nice

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non -alcoholic Snapple Apple because currently

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Snapple Apple gets you I want to say ten cents

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off if you buy two of them. It's five dollars

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And you get $0 .10 off a gallon. I have been

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doing the craziest thing. You guys know me that

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I'm a big Blue Monster fanatic. I have cut my

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monster consumption by about 90%. I went through

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withdrawals because we couldn't afford it the

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one week. So I wasn't like drinking any monster

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at all for a while and I went through the withdrawals

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the caffeine withdrawals I was drinking coffee

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because I had coffee I was drinking green tea

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from our cupboard because I found some green

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tea because I was fiending and Got to a point

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to where my caffeine levels were pretty low and

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now I'm pretty much drinking only It's like a

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blueberry diet green tea And it's super good

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And I get just enough caffeine from that. Like,

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I'm doing pretty good on it. And then I occasionally

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will relapse on a Blue Monster, but it's not

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my everyday thing. So I've been saving a shit

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ton of money doing that, because I was going

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through about $20 a week or more on a 12 -pack

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of it. So I have saved, in the last three months

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doing this crazy Wesco buying drinks thing, $136

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in fuel. That's good. It is. Yep Yeah, I just

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probably about that much in drinks Yeah, but

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I use them like I'm gonna buy the drinks anyway,

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right? Well, I've saved a lot too because that

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$20 a week That was getting it's getting expensive

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and that's it was getting to the point to where

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I was like now we have to get the monsters We

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have to get it this week. It was like, okay,

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we could be using this for food. So yes Now,

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now that I'm doing the green tea in a few months,

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like I'll do like three monsters a week for like

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seven days. I'll have one. Yeah. And I'm good.

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Like so I'm at a much healthier point. Like you

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shouldn't be consuming two to three monsters

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a day anyway. So. Oh, I also made a discovery

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this week. So Wal -Mart has free delivery to

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our area now. Oh. You know, I I have cheated

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on Myers officially and and have been only shopping

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at Walmart and And the thing is that Walmart

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also works with after pay so I can buy my groceries

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with after pay and have them dropped off at my

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house and That's pretty fucking great. I'm not

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gonna lie So we have feral cats around us, so

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if I had my groceries dropped off, there wouldn't

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be any left when I got there. Well, you're there.

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It's not like you just let it sit on the porch.

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You play in the day that you're going to be there,

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and don't leave. You schedule your time, and

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then you sit there and wait at the door, and

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then they bring your groceries, and you put them

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away. So I've been doing the pickup. I've been

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doing all the shopping online. picking pretty

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much the cheapest versions of it from Walmart,

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because it's kind of a pain searching through

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the Walmart aisles. A lot easier to look up what

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I want. Yep. Look at the cheapest version of

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that item, add it to my cart, and then I just

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do a pickup. And we've saved a lot of money doing

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that. Yeah, but now. And I'm going to do that

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for camping, because then I can. change like

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I can have my menu for the week or whatever we're

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out at camping. I can put that in my cart and

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then I can order it, pick it up, throw it all

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in the fridge and then go. Now, imagine you take

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that same concept, but you save the damn near

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twenty dollars it costs for us to go to a Walmart.

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By having it delivered. Yeah, but I kind of need

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to get out of the house. Oh, I never need to

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get out of the house I could yeah, I could spend

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my whole day right here on this property and

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be happy as a peach I mean, you kind of have

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to when your vehicle's gone all day I have I

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have a mule it goes 20 miles an hour and I have

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driven it to town three times this week Grant

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or Fremont not Fremont Yeah Yeah, it's like those

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guys that lost their licenses and now drive their

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old John Deere tractors to town. God damn. Yeah.

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We all know him. I had a guy in Lansing that's

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literally how he got around. He would go and

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drive his cans, his beer cans, in the back of

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his John Deere tractor trailer. And he would

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drive to the store, pop his cans. there is a

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guy in sierra vista arizona that wrote his lawnmower

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everywhere now mind you it's sierra vista arizona

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there ain't no grass to mow so where this dude

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came up with a lawnmower you know if you're good

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with it yes oh yeah i'd be too lazy to take it

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off too hey around here. You could just drive

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around town and be like, hey, you want your lawnmowed?

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Yeah. Yeah. Do it for five bucks. Like, yeah,

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the uh the meal's not bad. I mean, for going

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into grant, it's not bad but man, if I had to

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go **** anywhere else, there ain't no way. Yeah,

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no. Yeah. It's just, I mean, it probably overheat

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going to Nuego. How about say, I think Nuego

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is kind of pushing it. That take like 40 minutes.

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That's it. That's a 10 -minute drive that take

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like 40 minutes. Yep To where in a way go? Yeah

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Yeah, I thought you I thought you were talking

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about Fremont for a second. I was like, there's

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no Yeah a 30 -minute drive for me go on like

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65 that's almost a 30 -minute drive for me Well,

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it's kind of the same distance cuz you go through

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new I go right? Yeah, and I go through Bridgeton

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like either way. It's the same distance for either

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one of us Probably overheating going up the hill

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from the other side of the river. Oh, yeah. I'd

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be worried about the brakes. That you can't drive

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it on M37. So I'd have to find some backwards

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route. True. Yeah, that's true. Well, yeah, we're

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not doing that. So we're getting a. We're getting

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snow this week, guys. Supposedly. What? I didn't

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see that. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I've been

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hearing it's supposed to happen Sunday. Yeah,

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like four to five inches. All that stuff we've

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been talking about, Mark, that needs done in

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my yard. We got to do that like Friday and Saturday

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now. Yeah, I think it's supposed to rain Friday

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and Saturday, too. Yeah, it's supposed to rain

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Friday, it looks like. Yeah, I mean, so we're

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going to be cleaning up. We're going to be cleaning

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up the yard in the rain. It's going to suck.

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Yeah, I mean in Michigan. I don't ever put any

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real Like merit into anything they say because

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everything changes so Like we could get four

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or five inches sure, but we'll lose it either

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same day or next day. It's it's not gonna freeze

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All right. Well, this isn't the weather podcast.

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We just talked about some off -roady stuff It

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is that does pertain to off -road because I was

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I want to drive in snow. Damn it. Well, okay,

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so I know you guys have seen it. I don't know

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if the listeners have yet. I'll probably put

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a I'll put a link to my Google Drive in the show

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notes for the file that I have for the DNR trail

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closures. Michigan DNR closures. Is there even

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DNR anywhere else? Everywhere else, it's like

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BLM. Oh, okay. Anyways, I was just clarifying

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it's Michigan, not anywhere else. Well, now you

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got me curious what other states have DNRs I

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think I don't know. I think there is some DNR

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somewhere else No You get out West Yeah, you

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get out West and it becomes okay land management.

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Yep And then California's got Department of Fish

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and Game. Yeah. I guess I never thought about

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that. Yeah, so now I can't find an actual list

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of who calls it the DNR. Okay, so it looks like

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there are a few. Okay, so Georgia, Minnesota,

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Maryland, Indiana, Michigan, Iowa. That's it.

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What is Canadian call theirs? I Don't know. They

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got they're just like us. They have a bunch of

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states. So every every Providence probably has

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their own but anyways a sketch of tunes So the

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Michigan DNR is closing a bunch of trails. I

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look through the list. There's nothing That I'm

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really worried about it's like little bits and

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ends for the most part like like very small like

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a miles worth like each at most as a mile yeah

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except for one trail up by Grand Lake and they

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give notes right on all the reasons they're closing

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them there's one trail up by Grand Lake it's

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about a mile and a half long and their note for

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why they're closing it is it's rocky and a conventional

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vehicle would get damaged driving up it good

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to me that doesn't sound like a reason to shut

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down a trail It seems like a reason to keep it

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open exactly. Yeah. Yeah, so That sucks. I and

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we have till the end of the month I don't know

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the exact date but near the end of the month

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like the first Yeah for public comment. So I'm

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trying to get someone to go out and check that

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trail out and see like Is it worth closing because

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it's the only one that seems like it's worth

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talking about, you know Yeah, every everything

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else is like a quarter mile of The end of the

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trail has been burned for 30 years. That's what

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most of them Yeah, a bunch of trails have not

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been touched or been closed off because of being

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sold for land. Yep, so Yeah, I I'm hoping I guess

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next week I think someone's gonna go look at

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it What's the one a drum and I saw there was

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one on drum and being closed? Yeah We pull up

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Google Earth Speaking of Drummond didn't they

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just make a new like association or something

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like that? Or a new I I have okay, so I think

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that what that is Joe Yamber Derek don't fucking

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come at me if I say get this wrong. I think that

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Joe Yamber and Derek headed a New association

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to try and combat what they're doing up there

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Yeah, I don't know. I just know that something

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popped up. Oh, yeah, they are closing a small

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section of trail right here on Drummond Island.

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Yep. Kind of have a look at it the other day.

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It's shown as a separate line from the road,

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but it's part of the road. So it's just a mismap.

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Oh, they're just correcting it. Gotcha. Yeah.

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So if you check it out, if you're around any

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of them, give us a comment. If you don't want

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them closed, obviously make some comment on their

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on their what on their open? Is it like an open

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forum or what? Yeah, there's like a place you

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can go to put in your yeah If you got your email

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submitted, they most of them got the link at

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sent out email wise. That's true. Yes, right

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So check that out. I am kind of curious. I know

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we said this isn't like a weather podcast. But

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it got me thinking, what do you guys do to prepare

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for snow when you wheel that's differently from

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summer wheeling? I mean, do you guys do anything

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differently? Do you run your tire PSI lower?

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Do you take extra equipment? Do you do anything

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differently for snow wheeling? Pretty much exactly

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the same Generally if I'm snow wheeling, I'm

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not camping so I don't have the camping gear

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in the truck I'll generally have like, you know

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tools instead of camping gear We don't pull the

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trailer obviously no So that's that's really

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about it. Okay, cuz I cuz I definitely like I

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get like Snow shovel or some kind of like hard

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shovel to take I throw like an extra change of

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warm clothes, MREs, stuff like that. Just like

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if we break down or if we need to dig our way

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out of a situation. I have muck boots and stuff

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I always keep in the truck. Oh, I do that anyway.

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But I never, ever have a shovel in my truck.

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Probably a terrible idea, but I never have a

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shovel. Yeah. And do you guys lower your PSI

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in the winter? I think I would say this weight

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distraction pad. I run the exact same PSI, whether

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it's snowy, muddy. I go down to between 12 and

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15 and call it a day. Oh, yeah when you're wheeling

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but on the road yeah Just like normal between

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30 and 35 I was just curious because I know technically

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with cold air your PSI what drops a little bit

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anyway Well not if you actually air it up it

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doesn't so if you air up in the cold Your PSI

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stays the same right if you air up in the warm,

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and then it gets cold your PSI changes Yeah But

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if we're airing up and airing down consistently

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we don't have that problem Yeah, I was just curious

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well And now that I have a nice more flayed air

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compressor I will be airing up and down a lot

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more. Yeah Yeah, I was just curious if you guys

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did anything different cuz like I I throw like

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our Our shovels in our cars like we have aluminum

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shovels. They're just kind of cheap extendable

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ones for like Guess not like the heavy shit,

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but like powder powder to heavier medium heavy

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I don't know how to explain it kind of sushi

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snow I could throw a grain shovel in the truck.

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I mean there you go. Those would be perfect They

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actually are that's what we use for shoveling

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our sidewalks and stuff Yeah, right, but I you

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know we I used to carry in my Subaru I used to

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weigh the bot the back of it down with like bags

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of kitty litter and sand and stuff and then if

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I ever got stuck, which I never did. But if I

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ever did, I would cut one of those open and used

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it for traction. I've usually got my 12 volt

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heated blanket, which mine isn't 12 volt like

00:16:18.379 --> 00:16:20.620
plug into the car. Mine run. I have it converted

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to M 18 or M 12. That one's M 12. So it runs

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off the same battery pack as what's in my hoodies.

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Yeah. And then I usually have an extra code in

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there. just in general, not particularly for

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wheeling, just in general. There's generally

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an extra coat. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, no, not

00:16:42.110 --> 00:16:45.429
really. Yeah, because I've I've been stuck. My

00:16:45.429 --> 00:16:48.049
Subi broke down in the winter once. I think I

00:16:48.049 --> 00:16:50.149
think I ate through a belt or something and I

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was on like 98th. It was like the middle of a

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snowstorm and I didn't have a coat in my car

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because I was just driving from work and I just

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like I don't barely ever wear coats unless it's

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really cold. So it's usually just a long sleeve

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shirt or a sweatshirt. And I broke down and there

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was nobody on that road for a while. So I just

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kind of like sat there trying to figure out who

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to call. I was like, OK, it's getting fucking

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cold out. My feet were freezing. And I'm just

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like, dude, I should have been better prepared.

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So I'm just thinking, like, if we're on the trail

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snow wheeling, like, let's say ever, is there

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something that would change a little bit? But

00:17:37.569 --> 00:17:40.170
you kind of keep you're saying, Alex, that you

00:17:40.170 --> 00:17:41.930
kind of keep all that shit in the truck anyway,

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like boots, coat, everything. Just not a shovel

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because. Yeah. Well, and when you have a winch,

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I guess a shovel is a little less needed. right?

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Because then you could just winch yourself out.

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But for me, until this year, I hadn't had a winch.

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So shovel, max tracks, they were kind of my best

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option. Yeah, the max tracks didn't do nothing

00:18:04.450 --> 00:18:08.450
for me anyway. Yeah, they did until they didn't.

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They did until I was spending so long that I

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just got pools of water on the bottom of the

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tracks. And then at that point, without studs

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on them, They really did nothing. It was just

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rubber on rubber, or rubber on plastic, mind

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you. I give them a C for usefulness. I'm not

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saying they're completely useless, but they're

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a big item to carry when nine times out of 10,

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there's a better option. Yeah. I think they're

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much more useful, one, when you get the ones

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with metal studs, obviously. Two - I disagree.

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You know, yeah. Oh, yeah So I watched a video

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recently a guy had the one with metal studs and

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he tried to use it and he bet Every single one

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of those metal studs and then shot it out the

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back and it like stuck into something Nice. Yeah.

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Yeah. I I mean I guess I've seen I Mean, I guess

00:19:06.289 --> 00:19:08.569
I haven't really seen much for winner in metal

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studs, but I'm just assuming that metal studs

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would help with your traction a lot better, but

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Honestly, the way I look at it is it's a space

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to usefulness ratio, right? And the amount of

00:19:23.259 --> 00:19:25.339
space that a MaxTrac takes up, like some people

00:19:25.339 --> 00:19:28.400
say, oh, I just mount it to my roof rack. Yeah,

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but something else might be a lot more useful

00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:35.440
up there. So from a space to usefulness aspect,

00:19:35.740 --> 00:19:39.759
I just they're not that great. Yeah, I think

00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:43.380
a lot of people, it's just like I used them a

00:19:43.380 --> 00:19:47.319
ton this summer. But it wasn't for recovery.

00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:51.000
Yeah, it was like I put them in between two logs

00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:54.920
as a bench or I we used them as leveling blocks

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We did daisy chain them Because everybody had

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them and to help get out of like a muddy situation

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But honestly a winch would have done that too

00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:08.339
like so like I think after you get a winch you

00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:11.839
kind of It's they're kind of pointless Yeah,

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and honestly like they're not that cheap either

00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:17.180
No, I think mine were about and I had cheap ones

00:20:17.180 --> 00:20:19.400
mine were about a hundred some bucks Yeah, and

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at that point why not just save up a little bit

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and get a winch because most vehicles I'm not

00:20:24.700 --> 00:20:28.099
saying all most vehicles you can do a winch and

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a Harbor Freight winch plate for like Don't do

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a Harbor Freight winch because they're more expensive.

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I'm going on the cheap side here You can get

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a winch and a Harbor Freight winch plate for

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under 300 bucks and that works for most vehicles

00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:45.819
Yeah, and Facebook marketplace was a steal for

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me. I mean, exactly. I was looking at like seven

00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.359
to eight hundred dollars for a hideaway winch

00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:53.319
plate, which was which was my cheapest option

00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:55.599
at the time for the FJ. And I found one for a

00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:59.259
hundred. So that's worked good. I finally tested

00:20:59.259 --> 00:21:02.180
it out on another car ever here. Our last time,

00:21:02.380 --> 00:21:05.059
our last course in calf. And it works great.

00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:09.200
So none of my bolts snap. Nothing bad that you

00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:12.230
found. Yeah, I mean I did look when I got home

00:21:12.230 --> 00:21:14.309
so Gavin go I didn't see anything Gavin goes

00:21:14.309 --> 00:21:17.490
to do some maintenance Gavin you missed that

00:21:17.490 --> 00:21:21.690
your brake pads were low. Oh Well, I knew they

00:21:21.690 --> 00:21:25.390
were low. I mean I told you guys that like Before

00:21:25.390 --> 00:21:27.890
I went on that thousand mile trip. I'm like,

00:21:28.009 --> 00:21:29.890
I know they're low I know, you know, I know that

00:21:29.890 --> 00:21:32.670
they're getting there I just kept putting it

00:21:32.670 --> 00:21:35.369
off and putting it off and Tried to I went to

00:21:35.369 --> 00:21:37.910
go put them on the one weekend and right before

00:21:37.910 --> 00:21:39.670
that weekend when I went to go put them on is

00:21:39.670 --> 00:21:43.470
when they went out so we ever think those pads

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Yeah, yeah Yeah, we're good. I don't remember

00:21:48.250 --> 00:21:51.589
if we ever put the new pads on or not. Yeah.

00:21:51.789 --> 00:21:55.549
Yeah, we're good I know we did so side but Yeah,

00:21:55.549 --> 00:21:59.410
and now I have two new calipers and oh, that's

00:21:59.410 --> 00:22:02.890
right. I remember that adventure. Yeah Well,

00:22:02.890 --> 00:22:05.369
I have two extra calipers now too. Yeah, that's

00:22:05.369 --> 00:22:08.930
sit in my my gearbox up top So if anything ever

00:22:08.930 --> 00:22:11.430
happens or if anyone that has the same kind of

00:22:11.430 --> 00:22:15.549
calipers as I do needs them boom So that's good.

00:22:15.710 --> 00:22:17.869
It's always good to be prepared I was just wondering

00:22:17.869 --> 00:22:21.829
on winter preparedness because I I'm always the

00:22:21.829 --> 00:22:24.609
I wouldn't say preppy type But I always like

00:22:24.609 --> 00:22:26.950
to make sure I have everything now that I have

00:22:26.950 --> 00:22:30.549
a winch that really does fix a lot of the issues

00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.240
Like last winter, I got stuck trying to do a

00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.420
recovery for someone who wasn't even there. Remember

00:22:37.420 --> 00:22:40.660
that? I do. Yeah, she wasn't even she wasn't

00:22:40.660 --> 00:22:42.940
even there. And I went through a blue trail.

00:22:43.180 --> 00:22:47.339
And my God, that was the roughest trail in the

00:22:47.339 --> 00:22:50.180
snow I have ever taken. I was bottoming out on

00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:53.380
almost every hole. The rule of thumb in Michigan

00:22:53.380 --> 00:22:57.119
is if it's marked a green trail in the snow,

00:22:57.420 --> 00:23:00.160
it's a blue trail. If it's marked the blue trail

00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.559
in the snow, it's marked the black trail. Yeah.

00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:08.240
Well, and I think a lot of our even blue trails,

00:23:08.259 --> 00:23:10.680
like in the summer, even in the winter, we would

00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:12.740
have been like, yeah, these aren't shit. But

00:23:12.740 --> 00:23:18.140
like that one, it was like the ruts were so nasty.

00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:19.960
It was like going through. It was like going

00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.960
through ever like the some of the ruts that were

00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.359
down there. I was jumping the truck. I can tell

00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:29.859
you from experience Skitter Hill. is a black

00:23:29.859 --> 00:23:32.660
trail in the winter and a blue trail in the summer.

00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:38.640
Yeah, I think blue trail in the summer is. I

00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:41.779
think it would be closer. I don't know. It really

00:23:41.779 --> 00:23:45.460
depends on your setup. Yeah, I mean, most just

00:23:45.460 --> 00:23:49.160
for me, most not a blue tree there. Yeah, I think

00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:54.039
what's was it not Scott? What's his name? Scott

00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:56.579
did it. He's yeah. Scott tried, right? He didn't

00:23:56.579 --> 00:23:58.730
make it up. No, yeah, you're right. You had to

00:23:58.730 --> 00:24:01.549
win shout same spot. I went out when I high sun.

00:24:01.630 --> 00:24:04.430
Yeah, I bet you I wouldn't do that on 35 snow

00:24:04.430 --> 00:24:12.029
Let's find out Planet I Gotta get my locker fixed

00:24:12.029 --> 00:24:23.890
Do it once the snow falls Sunday It stays around

00:24:23.890 --> 00:24:26.170
long enough, that's the other thing about our

00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:28.759
winter is that We get snow and it's gone like

00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:32.240
two to three days lately Only lately it has only

00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:35.579
for the first month then we get hammered and

00:24:35.579 --> 00:24:38.640
it stays around for like three weeks And then

00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:43.059
it goes back. Yes No The last like five years

00:24:43.059 --> 00:24:45.779
we get hammered it stays for about three weeks

00:24:45.779 --> 00:24:49.000
And then it goes back to being snow gone two

00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.450
days later Yeah, we always get that midwinter

00:24:52.450 --> 00:24:54.990
melt in like January I always called a midwinter

00:24:54.990 --> 00:24:58.049
melt but like it's like a day or two day or two

00:24:58.049 --> 00:25:00.369
We don't like 50 something and we haven't been

00:25:00.369 --> 00:25:02.769
getting turns into ice We haven't been getting

00:25:02.769 --> 00:25:05.490
real winter until like February 1st the last

00:25:05.490 --> 00:25:09.230
five years and then February 1st comes we get

00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:12.029
a massive snowstorm. It's there for three weeks

00:25:12.029 --> 00:25:15.369
and then it all melts away. I Miss snow, man.

00:25:15.410 --> 00:25:19.660
I miss snow like I had in the UP Well up as in

00:25:19.660 --> 00:25:24.460
like Beaver Island, but I miss 2014 Nine foot

00:25:24.460 --> 00:25:28.720
of snow. I remember I remember that Grand Rapids

00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:32.279
flooding people taking pictures of fish like

00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:37.440
halfway up their windows I had a I was in my

00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:43.259
last year of school. I Was it 2014 or 2012? 2014

00:25:43.259 --> 00:25:47.539
was the year Yeah. 2014 was the year that Grand

00:25:47.539 --> 00:25:50.500
Rapids was the snowiest place on earth. Yeah.

00:25:51.099 --> 00:25:53.480
I think I remember the 2012, because that wasn't

00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:58.299
my last year. I was like my sophomore or freshman.

00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:02.640
And I was at a buddy's house. And we were just

00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:04.759
loving it. Like we had the snow. He had metal

00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.319
roof. So the snow was just going off the side

00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.220
of his metal roof. And he was jumping from the

00:26:10.220 --> 00:26:15.390
second floor balcony into the snow. naked and

00:26:15.390 --> 00:26:17.650
that was just like you know as guys and shit

00:26:17.650 --> 00:26:20.410
like just bros hanging out like we were drinking

00:26:20.410 --> 00:26:22.410
Mountain Dew playing Cod and we're like let's

00:26:22.410 --> 00:26:25.109
take a break and we run up to the balcony jump

00:26:25.109 --> 00:26:27.890
off the ledge into the snow pile naked and run

00:26:27.890 --> 00:26:29.769
back into the house or warm up by the fire it

00:26:29.769 --> 00:26:34.450
was fun man the 2014 season was the first year

00:26:34.450 --> 00:26:37.980
that I was driving And I had a rear wheel drive

00:26:37.980 --> 00:26:41.400
Buick Roadmaster with all four ball tires. And

00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.339
I'd take that thing out and I'd be driving down

00:26:43.339 --> 00:26:45.920
the road and there'd be a three foot snow bank

00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.200
just covering the road. And I just plow through

00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:55.559
it. Fucking great busting. Yeah. I know it didn't

00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:58.519
drive down a hill. I parked it at the top of

00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:01.880
the hill and put it in park and it went down

00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.160
the hill. There's a difference. But yes. Yeah,

00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:08.579
I remember. I think that same day, well, the

00:27:08.579 --> 00:27:11.519
day after we had all that fun in 2012, my dad

00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.240
called and was like, he's like, all right, dude,

00:27:14.259 --> 00:27:16.180
I'm coming to get you. I'm like, it's kind of

00:27:16.180 --> 00:27:18.799
rough out. He's like, no, I need you home. We

00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.460
have about four and a half feet of snow on our

00:27:21.460 --> 00:27:23.619
roof, and we can hear the roof making noises.

00:27:23.740 --> 00:27:27.380
Oh, god. I'm like, oh, shit. So he had like a

00:27:27.380 --> 00:27:31.400
cheaper modular, single story modular. So he

00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:34.849
came and got me. And I got there and there's

00:27:34.849 --> 00:27:36.869
about a quarter of the roof. You could see a

00:27:36.869 --> 00:27:39.230
hole. It wasn't a hole through the roof. It was

00:27:39.230 --> 00:27:41.890
a hole in the snow that was on top of the roof

00:27:41.890 --> 00:27:44.269
where my uncle had already gotten up there and

00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:46.170
was shoveling snow off the roof. And I'm like,

00:27:46.329 --> 00:27:47.710
Dad, I'm afraid of heights. And he's like, I

00:27:47.710 --> 00:27:51.490
don't give a fuck. And so we all got on the roof

00:27:51.490 --> 00:27:54.130
and started shoveling snow off the roof. And

00:27:54.130 --> 00:27:57.289
it took us like five or six hours. And by the

00:27:57.289 --> 00:28:00.150
time we were done, I know, shit you, by the time

00:28:00.150 --> 00:28:04.329
we were done, the snow Covered past our windows

00:28:04.329 --> 00:28:06.930
like it came up to the roof where the gutters

00:28:06.930 --> 00:28:10.329
were on all sides we looked like we had a giant

00:28:10.329 --> 00:28:14.890
fucking igloo and so then we had to get down

00:28:14.890 --> 00:28:18.250
and shovel out a path to get to our to and out

00:28:18.250 --> 00:28:22.049
of our door and Then we push shovel up against

00:28:22.049 --> 00:28:24.210
the house for insulation and we were like dude.

00:28:24.329 --> 00:28:26.630
What what is gonna happen? We thought this was

00:28:26.630 --> 00:28:29.369
gonna it was gonna get worse like trees were

00:28:29.369 --> 00:28:30.730
snapping in the middle of the night. You could

00:28:30.730 --> 00:28:33.430
hear them under the weight, like just blowing

00:28:33.430 --> 00:28:37.069
up because of the water or the moisture content

00:28:37.069 --> 00:28:39.190
in them. You guys have heard that, right? That's

00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:41.609
probably one of the eeriest and coolest sounds

00:28:41.609 --> 00:28:44.150
is when you're out in the middle of the woods

00:28:44.150 --> 00:28:48.569
and you just hear boom, just fucking explosion.

00:28:48.829 --> 00:28:52.630
You know how I normally sit and browse marketplace

00:28:52.630 --> 00:28:56.670
the whole time that we're doing this? My marketplace

00:28:56.670 --> 00:29:01.049
just decided that I was in San Francisco, California,

00:29:01.309 --> 00:29:05.549
and it will not set back to Grant. What the frick?

00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:08.609
Are you using like a VPN or something? No, I

00:29:08.609 --> 00:29:11.369
don't use VPNs. I'm fucking a danger rabbit.

00:29:11.950 --> 00:29:15.829
But the thing is, there's some really cool rigs

00:29:15.829 --> 00:29:18.650
for sale in San Francisco, California right now.

00:29:19.029 --> 00:29:21.730
I'm sure. Are they the cost of San Francisco,

00:29:21.730 --> 00:29:26.940
California? Dude, like not really. Here's a well,

00:29:26.940 --> 00:29:30.880
here's a Cascadia vehicle tent for 200 bucks.

00:29:31.380 --> 00:29:35.720
Oh That's sick. Here's a 93 Toyota Previa for

00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:40.059
like 2000 that runs and drives Dude, Previus

00:29:40.059 --> 00:29:42.559
are cool. I do that. I want a preview like that's

00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.940
that's my dream car right now. I want one so

00:29:44.940 --> 00:29:48.180
bad Yeah, and I've been trying to talk Caitlin

00:29:48.180 --> 00:29:49.920
into it, but she just keeps telling me they're

00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.880
ugly. I don't want a minivan and i'm like yeah

00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.319
but it's a minivan that's all wheel drive and

00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:01.160
supercharged and manual yeah yeah i think there

00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:02.960
was a couple of them for sale in michigan and

00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:04.960
i kept sharing them to cnn she's like absolutely

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.140
fucking not i'm like it could be your trail rig

00:30:07.140 --> 00:30:10.299
i've seen someone do it dude i want one so bad

00:30:10.299 --> 00:30:12.779
like that it could be my daily i don't even give

00:30:12.779 --> 00:30:14.819
a damn you know how fucking cool that would be

00:30:14.819 --> 00:30:20.720
yeah yeah i just want any i just want an old

00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.900
Toyota, like Land Cruiser, like FJ80 or something.

00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.519
Here's a running and driving Wagoneer for six

00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:34.799
hundred dollars in Sacramento. Yeah, you should

00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.279
start shipping those over and then bring like

00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:40.559
get you in the trailer with your dad's truck.

00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.299
Oh, wait. And then that's up to bringing them

00:30:44.299 --> 00:30:47.440
back and then selling them. That's up to eighteen

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.890
thousand dollars in repairs right now. Like he's

00:30:51.890 --> 00:30:54.589
worth it. He's literally well the thing is he

00:30:54.589 --> 00:31:00.569
owes 16 so It he's kind of stuck, you know, yeah,

00:31:00.569 --> 00:31:03.950
but yeah fuck dude. It's just he's now can't

00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:06.529
even Total it or anything right cuz you'd get

00:31:06.529 --> 00:31:09.210
like three grand now. He'd get he'd probably

00:31:09.210 --> 00:31:12.809
get like 20 But he's not gonna just hit a deer

00:31:12.809 --> 00:31:16.369
then but dude I'm gonna go right to the bill.

00:31:16.369 --> 00:31:19.490
He's not gonna get most of that. So the thing

00:31:19.490 --> 00:31:22.480
is like And he needs to have a diesel because

00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.220
he asked me to pull the horse trailer. And I'm

00:31:25.220 --> 00:31:28.940
like, Dad, you can buy a really nice OBS for

00:31:28.940 --> 00:31:31.940
what you're putting into this Chevy right now.

00:31:33.579 --> 00:31:38.519
But in his defense, when this truck is done,

00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.500
he should never have to touch the engine again.

00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:46.140
I mean, it's brand new. It's overbuilt. He'll

00:31:46.140 --> 00:31:48.720
never have to touch it again. Transmission, same

00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.400
thing. And then, well, no, because we ended up

00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.240
not needing to rebuild the transmission, so we

00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.339
might have trans problems in the future. But

00:31:57.339 --> 00:32:01.180
it's an Allison. It's before Chevy made Allison

00:32:01.180 --> 00:32:03.839
mad, and Allison quit making them transmissions.

00:32:05.220 --> 00:32:09.500
So he should be OK there, but the body's already

00:32:09.500 --> 00:32:12.000
rusty on the thing. So he's going to have to

00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.240
put a body on it in the next probably five years.

00:32:17.579 --> 00:32:19.799
I don't know how many of our listeners are from

00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:21.940
Michigan. I know we've got some from here, some

00:32:21.940 --> 00:32:25.480
from other states, but Chevy vehicles in Michigan,

00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.900
you can find like 20, 23 Chevy pickups completely

00:32:30.900 --> 00:32:34.200
rotted the fuck out. You go to a junkyard, every

00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.619
other vehicle you see in a junkyard is a Chevy

00:32:36.619 --> 00:32:40.720
pickup folded in half. And I'm not talking like

00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.559
three quarter tons or one tons that actually

00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.160
pull trailers. I'm talking half tons that might've

00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:46.940
never had a trailer put on them. pickups. They

00:32:46.940 --> 00:32:51.599
just Chevy pickups rot. That's all they do. Yeah.

00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.619
They rust like a motherfucker. Subarus are another

00:32:54.619 --> 00:32:57.059
bad one in Michigan. Like. Yes. Touch them. They

00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:59.039
crumble. I mean Toyota's too. It's horrible.

00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.440
Yeah. I honestly nothing in Michigan is really

00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.460
safe but. Really? Okay. I I'm going to say this.

00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.539
Say what you want. If you're buying a vehicle

00:33:07.539 --> 00:33:10.380
in Michigan, you don't want it to be unusably

00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:14.109
rotted. Buy a Ford. It's the only option and

00:33:14.109 --> 00:33:16.670
I'm not talking just a Luma duties That's why

00:33:16.670 --> 00:33:19.789
there's so many more 90s OBS Ford pickups on

00:33:19.789 --> 00:33:23.069
the road than there are the old OBS Chevy's Because

00:33:23.069 --> 00:33:25.869
all the Chevy's rotted out and all the Fords

00:33:25.869 --> 00:33:29.069
they look like hell their bodies are fucking

00:33:29.069 --> 00:33:32.390
toast But their frames are solid their drivelines

00:33:32.390 --> 00:33:34.630
are solid. They're still moving down the road

00:33:34.970 --> 00:33:37.849
that's such a shitty thing about living in the

00:33:37.849 --> 00:33:40.809
north like this because the north is such a beautiful

00:33:40.809 --> 00:33:45.549
place but the rust the rust is fucking crazy

00:33:45.549 --> 00:33:48.789
yeah and there's things we can do to help with

00:33:48.789 --> 00:33:54.309
it um if we switch to or start adding beet juice

00:33:54.309 --> 00:33:56.789
to the salt it's no longer corrosive and it won't

00:33:56.789 --> 00:33:59.750
rust our vehicles out which is funny because

00:33:59.750 --> 00:34:02.650
we actually sell beet juice from here in Michigan

00:34:02.650 --> 00:34:05.210
to other states to use for the same purpose.

00:34:05.990 --> 00:34:08.710
We generate enough beets here to also do it here

00:34:08.710 --> 00:34:14.170
on our own stuff, so why don't we? Yeah, I mean,

00:34:14.289 --> 00:34:16.829
don't we sell beet juice to farmers to like weigh

00:34:16.829 --> 00:34:20.460
their tires down? I mean, yeah, so... Farmers

00:34:20.460 --> 00:34:23.099
have mostly switched it used to be that we use

00:34:23.099 --> 00:34:25.599
chlorine for that but chlorine is also corrosive

00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.139
and rots out our rims So a lot of farmers have

00:34:29.139 --> 00:34:31.340
switched to beet juice because it does the same

00:34:31.340 --> 00:34:35.360
job without being corrosive and it's non -toxic

00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.699
right like it's not gonna do anything to because

00:34:38.699 --> 00:34:43.039
I remember my grandpa I think he had a 4440 and

00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.480
He used beet juice and hit on all of his tractors

00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:50.969
our farming so our 3010 we just our the chlorine

00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:54.190
filled wheels rotted out like two years ago so

00:34:54.190 --> 00:34:56.829
we got some new wheels made for it because of

00:34:56.829 --> 00:34:59.110
course it's a weird one you can't just buy the

00:34:59.110 --> 00:35:02.769
damn wheels um but so we had some new wheels

00:35:02.769 --> 00:35:04.750
done and then we filled it with beet juice instead

00:35:04.750 --> 00:35:07.449
of chlorine this time around yeah but that being

00:35:07.449 --> 00:35:10.650
said that chlorine lasted 50 years before it

00:35:10.650 --> 00:35:15.710
rotted through the wheels yeah but yeah it's

00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:17.840
Really? And that's the big thing. If we started

00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.400
doing beet juice slurries instead of just salt,

00:35:20.579 --> 00:35:23.500
we'd be in a much better situation. Yeah. And

00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:27.300
our roads would be all sorts of cool colors and

00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:31.340
Oh man. I had this whole, I had this whole conversation

00:35:31.340 --> 00:35:33.860
when I was on that other podcast. Uh, was that

00:35:33.860 --> 00:35:38.099
the tuba door show? Um, honestly, we live in

00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:41.099
Michigan. We should just expect bad roads by

00:35:41.099 --> 00:35:44.119
vehicles that can handle it or buy a snowmobile.

00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:51.019
Why are we trying to bend nature's way? Why don't

00:35:51.019 --> 00:35:53.679
we just adapt to it rather than trying to change

00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:58.659
it? See, I'm not going to say what I was going

00:35:58.659 --> 00:36:01.659
to say, but because there are people in inner

00:36:01.659 --> 00:36:04.179
cities that want comfortable roads. Well, that's

00:36:04.179 --> 00:36:09.500
fine. They can be like Grand Rapids and put heated

00:36:09.500 --> 00:36:12.710
roads in. Boom, problem solved. Holland. I think

00:36:12.710 --> 00:36:14.309
it's Holland. I don't think, no, Grand Rapids

00:36:14.309 --> 00:36:17.369
has heated roads. Holland has heated sidewalks.

00:36:17.849 --> 00:36:20.010
I thought, I thought Holland was like the first

00:36:20.010 --> 00:36:22.929
one. They did side. He did roads and sidewalks.

00:36:22.929 --> 00:36:24.730
No, Grand Rapids has had heated roads since the

00:36:24.730 --> 00:36:29.750
early 1900s. Oh, I didn't know that. So. Yeah,

00:36:29.750 --> 00:36:33.090
I mean, that's cool. I, I like that idea. I think

00:36:33.090 --> 00:36:37.369
heated roads are. Did you hear that, Mark? No.

00:36:39.110 --> 00:36:44.480
Oh, I just got. Confusion. Oh, I just got a like

00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:49.500
god -awful scream in my ear. From my headphones.

00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.500
My kid? Oh. Yeah, I don't. Uh you should check

00:36:53.500 --> 00:36:56.260
your surroundings. There might be a creature.

00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.639
That's **** dude. But no, um after my nightmare

00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.840
last night, that's believable. But um. Yeah.

00:37:04.460 --> 00:37:08.380
Yeah, no, I I completely threw me off track now

00:37:08.380 --> 00:37:14.449
too. **** Should we talk about roads? Oh, yeah.

00:37:14.449 --> 00:37:17.010
So, you know, all the brick roads in Grand Rapids,

00:37:17.289 --> 00:37:20.050
all the original roads in Grand Rapids? Mm hmm.

00:37:20.130 --> 00:37:23.329
They're all heated. Yeah. And they're beautiful.

00:37:23.409 --> 00:37:26.769
That's how all roads should be. I think we should

00:37:26.769 --> 00:37:30.110
just switch to brick, man. Such such an easier

00:37:30.110 --> 00:37:32.269
thing to replace. And who gives a shit if it's

00:37:32.269 --> 00:37:35.750
a little bumpy? It looks better, dude. I like

00:37:35.750 --> 00:37:38.969
those cobble roads, man. I I also like brick

00:37:38.969 --> 00:37:41.460
roads. I wouldn't want to go. I wouldn't want

00:37:41.460 --> 00:37:44.320
to go expressway speeds on brick. But no, no.

00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.800
I like that's a I mean, the only thing that I

00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.559
think would be like a problem is you got your

00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:54.219
county trucks going by and just like, yeah, go,

00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:56.900
go, go. Yeah. Bricks flying. Well, as I said,

00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.139
that's the other thing is snowblowers like Fremont

00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:02.380
does. I think cool. I think the brick roads also

00:38:02.380 --> 00:38:04.360
have like weight limits, so I don't think just

00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.639
anyone can go on them. Yeah, I know. No, I like

00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.260
watching Fremont. When I used to go there in

00:38:11.260 --> 00:38:14.099
the early mornings to go to work, I would catch

00:38:14.099 --> 00:38:16.900
the snow blowers on the top of these track around

00:38:16.900 --> 00:38:20.760
the tractors. They would be pushing through the

00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.579
fucking through the main drag of Fremont onto

00:38:23.579 --> 00:38:27.179
like a truck. Yeah. And just catching it all

00:38:27.179 --> 00:38:29.760
in the back of a truck like a grain. What do

00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.099
you call those combines with the grain county

00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:34.559
the county does a good job up there? They do

00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.860
that anywhere where we have more than two lanes

00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:41.000
so New wego they actually yeah, they do that

00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.340
new I go to in the morning do they yep, right?

00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.219
I've never I guess I've never seen it only on

00:38:47.219 --> 00:38:51.840
m37. Yeah. Mm -hmm Everywhere else yeah flood

00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.119
I Missed that one because I only see county roads

00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:59.309
down m37 or county like the plow trucks down

00:38:59.309 --> 00:39:04.389
at 37 when I got there, but not like the tractors

00:39:04.389 --> 00:39:07.170
with snowblowers attached to them. Big Rapids

00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:10.010
does that, too, and it was always fun to watch.

00:39:10.630 --> 00:39:13.849
Yeah, it's just cool seeing a different way to

00:39:13.849 --> 00:39:17.949
do it. We were talking about that a little earlier

00:39:17.949 --> 00:39:22.190
in one of the group chats that I'm in. Some people

00:39:22.190 --> 00:39:24.150
are like, well, I got to get my snowblower ready.

00:39:24.230 --> 00:39:27.469
And I'm like, dude, I just fucking floor it.

00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.699
But Alex knows my driveway my driveways got a

00:39:30.699 --> 00:39:32.400
little hill right up at the end that goes up

00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.239
to the road And so we have to like before we

00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.820
had all four -wheel drive vehicles We had to

00:39:38.820 --> 00:39:42.000
go up to the edge of the road We'd have to look

00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.420
while we were sliding back down the hill to see

00:39:44.420 --> 00:39:45.840
if there were cars coming and then once we were

00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.380
like Oh, no cars coming we'd back up a good 16

00:39:48.380 --> 00:39:50.380
feet and then hit that bitch full speed to get

00:39:50.380 --> 00:39:54.949
out of there So I only know snow plows here I

00:39:54.949 --> 00:39:58.010
only plow my driveway if I know someone's coming

00:39:58.010 --> 00:39:59.929
over. Like if my grandma's coming over, I plow

00:39:59.929 --> 00:40:02.869
the driveway. Otherwise, I have four wheel drive

00:40:02.869 --> 00:40:06.230
for a fucking reason. Yeah. We shovel paths to

00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:10.469
our cars and we shovel our deck off and the rest

00:40:10.469 --> 00:40:13.909
of it. Like last year, it was perfect. Like everybody.

00:40:14.150 --> 00:40:17.329
We all had all wheel drive cars or four wheel

00:40:17.329 --> 00:40:20.449
drive cars. I will say that even like CNN is

00:40:20.449 --> 00:40:24.079
all wheel drive. Honda still handles better on

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:25.840
snowy roads than my truck does on four -wheel

00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.280
drive. Dude, that's, yeah, that makes sense.

00:40:28.420 --> 00:40:30.219
Yeah. Yeah, I know it does. All -wheel drive

00:40:30.219 --> 00:40:33.159
is better for snow. Now your truck, oh no, your

00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:34.980
truck's mechanical, right? You don't have all

00:40:34.980 --> 00:40:36.599
-time four -wheel drive that you can turn on.

00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:41.460
Yeah, no, it's mechanical. Because like Duncan

00:40:41.460 --> 00:40:43.579
or Shane's truck, which I guess is also mechanical.

00:40:44.179 --> 00:40:46.320
So if you don't lock your center diff and you

00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:48.599
just put it in four -wheel drive, then it's all

00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:55.329
-wheel drive. Yeah, I I just noticed like and

00:40:55.329 --> 00:40:57.309
I will say this winter too I had a lot of weight

00:40:57.309 --> 00:40:59.389
taken out of it because I took everything out

00:40:59.389 --> 00:41:03.750
of my truck So that also kind of didn't help

00:41:03.750 --> 00:41:07.489
with the handling my springs were stiffer So

00:41:07.489 --> 00:41:11.130
I think I'm gonna leave the fridge in I'm just

00:41:11.130 --> 00:41:13.969
gonna take the battery out Keep that little bit

00:41:13.969 --> 00:41:16.250
of extra weight in there. I'm gonna take the

00:41:16.250 --> 00:41:20.289
water out of my my Dometic tank leave the tank

00:41:20.289 --> 00:41:22.630
in there. No take the tank out and your hose

00:41:22.630 --> 00:41:27.170
Yeah, cuz it will still crack yeah, it'll it'll

00:41:27.170 --> 00:41:29.090
form moisture and then it'll crack take that

00:41:29.090 --> 00:41:32.630
out put that inside Yeah, but that's pretty much

00:41:32.630 --> 00:41:36.349
all I have that's I really in general your truck

00:41:36.349 --> 00:41:39.389
is squatted in the back So you should definitely

00:41:39.389 --> 00:41:43.539
pull some weight out of there in the winter It's

00:41:43.539 --> 00:41:45.320
I think it's only squatted because of the weight,

00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:48.860
but that's why my springs My springs if I take

00:41:48.860 --> 00:41:52.059
them out my right is like substantially stiffer

00:41:52.059 --> 00:41:54.940
and it handles worse You should definitely cut

00:41:54.940 --> 00:41:58.000
down some weight back there in the winter Don't

00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.920
just leave it super weighted down because that's

00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:07.039
gonna eat through your fucking shocks We'll see

00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.880
maybe I will I mean, I'm not there's not a whole

00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:11.980
lot. No, I'm just trying to think of what I can

00:42:11.980 --> 00:42:15.019
take out It would be mostly just tools because

00:42:15.019 --> 00:42:17.380
a lot of my weight is tools in the in the top

00:42:17.380 --> 00:42:19.119
So I'm like, I don't know if I want to take those

00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.619
out Yeah, but you're the weight that your problem

00:42:21.619 --> 00:42:24.960
is is it's lower and farther back. So it's whatever

00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.739
you've got in your back hatch Because stuff on

00:42:28.739 --> 00:42:30.960
the roof isn't gonna make you tip backwards as

00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.860
much Yeah, well except for that back box. That's

00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:38.650
right in the back but That's where I have a lot

00:42:38.650 --> 00:42:41.250
of my weight. I have a lot of my impacts, drills,

00:42:41.730 --> 00:42:44.849
stuff like that. But yeah, I think the fridge

00:42:44.849 --> 00:42:51.269
itself is about 45 pounds. So the battery, it's

00:42:51.269 --> 00:42:54.449
not five pounds, but take that out because I

00:42:54.449 --> 00:42:58.730
don't want that to freeze. But no, I'll have

00:42:58.730 --> 00:43:01.769
to take the fridge out too. Never mind. Because

00:43:01.769 --> 00:43:04.590
I have to charge that battery during the winter.

00:43:04.989 --> 00:43:07.750
So I'm just going to plug it into the wall. Will

00:43:07.750 --> 00:43:09.710
this be your first winner on your wild peaks

00:43:09.710 --> 00:43:18.190
or your second? Second. OK. Yeah, and they were

00:43:18.190 --> 00:43:22.829
great comparatively. Comparatively to the last

00:43:22.829 --> 00:43:27.389
ones I had, because I got them just after poker

00:43:27.389 --> 00:43:33.070
run. Yeah, you're right. So. I went and picked

00:43:33.070 --> 00:43:38.210
those up from Joe and put those on. And they

00:43:38.210 --> 00:43:40.329
were mad at me because I still had mud and shit

00:43:40.329 --> 00:43:44.570
still in my wheels. And I was like, dude, they're

00:43:44.570 --> 00:43:46.170
like, take it to a car wash. I'm like, fine.

00:43:46.250 --> 00:43:48.130
So I took it to a car wash for like 10 minutes.

00:43:48.530 --> 00:43:50.429
And they were still mad because they still had

00:43:50.429 --> 00:43:51.389
some in there. I'm like, what do you want me

00:43:51.389 --> 00:43:53.250
to do? Lay on the fucking ground? I'm like, dude.

00:43:53.250 --> 00:43:56.480
I'm fucking. I, this last time I went in there,

00:43:56.500 --> 00:43:59.039
no, two times ago, I told them like, guys, it's

00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.039
as clean as it's going to fucking get. Like,

00:44:01.420 --> 00:44:03.420
yeah, like I'm sorry, but they're like, well,

00:44:03.500 --> 00:44:05.980
we charge more for like having to clean all that

00:44:05.980 --> 00:44:07.599
shit out. I'm like, well, so you charge more

00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:10.159
than I'm sorry. I don't like, I don't know what

00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:11.599
you want me to do. I'm not going to lay down

00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:13.059
in the middle of the car wash in the middle of

00:44:13.059 --> 00:44:16.599
winter and fucking scrape out all my frozen mud

00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:18.539
out of my fucking wheel wells. And I remember

00:44:18.539 --> 00:44:22.519
after After Poker Run, they got on Mark's case

00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.019
because, okay, so we brought it in because it

00:44:25.019 --> 00:44:27.719
had three leaking tires, right? Yeah. We needed

00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.920
them to de -bead them, clean the bead and put

00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.099
the bead back on. They complained because it

00:44:33.099 --> 00:44:35.619
had three flat tires when they got out to it.

00:44:36.019 --> 00:44:42.179
Well, what do you think our problem was? I need

00:44:42.179 --> 00:44:46.079
them to redo my... Yeah. Yeah. I need him to

00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.139
redo my rear tire and my driver left because

00:44:50.139 --> 00:44:54.880
I still have a leak. I think the stem, um, the

00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:59.079
valve stem in my spare is leak is what's leaking.

00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.440
Sounds like a good time to put some apex valves

00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:09.139
in. Yeah. How much was yours again? I think it's

00:45:09.139 --> 00:45:11.519
like 200 bucks to have all four or all five done.

00:45:12.900 --> 00:45:17.320
Yeah. Well, I'm not gonna lie the new thread

00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:19.519
on ones they're old thread on ones I think we're

00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.699
fucking pointless, but they have those new ones

00:45:22.699 --> 00:45:27.940
I Look up apex and it's showing me like apex

00:45:27.940 --> 00:45:31.260
learning. I thought it would be like apex legends

00:45:31.260 --> 00:45:36.980
the video game Yeah, they're new thread on one

00:45:36.980 --> 00:45:39.559
I'm really impressed with you actually remove

00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:45.309
the core now Yeah, the new RCV, the updated RCV.

00:45:46.590 --> 00:45:50.050
Way better than the old one. Because you remove

00:45:50.050 --> 00:45:53.690
the core and then put it on. So it basically

00:45:53.690 --> 00:45:58.269
just gives you a whatever ours is called, RPV,

00:45:58.369 --> 00:46:03.610
but with a flexible stem. Yeah. Yeah. That would

00:46:03.610 --> 00:46:08.230
be, that might be it. I like Apex. Apex sponsors,

00:46:08.610 --> 00:46:11.389
please. fuck dude good luck they don't sponsor

00:46:11.389 --> 00:46:15.829
fucking nobody um the other thing though i do

00:46:15.829 --> 00:46:19.969
have some mild issues with the rcv like they

00:46:19.969 --> 00:46:22.969
stick out farther than the rpv which i don't

00:46:22.969 --> 00:46:28.630
necessarily think is a good thing but i don't

00:46:28.630 --> 00:46:31.690
know it looks like it's a good good product you

00:46:31.690 --> 00:46:36.550
know yeah well maybe maybe it's my destiny to

00:46:36.550 --> 00:46:40.460
be the tester of these we'll see yeah so i mean

00:46:40.460 --> 00:46:43.099
because you have the rpv right so yeah me and

00:46:43.099 --> 00:46:46.019
mark both have rpvs yeah and then you just need

00:46:46.019 --> 00:46:49.099
to get four you just swap the one off whoever

00:46:49.099 --> 00:46:54.300
spares swapping with that's that's true but you'd

00:46:54.300 --> 00:46:57.280
have your point you would have to keep the i

00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:01.659
do a set of five it's 120 for a set of five okay

00:47:01.659 --> 00:47:06.199
yeah yeah half the price and then you don't have

00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.460
to pay for remounting and everything Let's see,

00:47:08.460 --> 00:47:17.559
how much are the RPVs? $38 a piece. 160 for a

00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:19.380
set of five. Plus you got to have, you know,

00:47:19.460 --> 00:47:22.519
pay to have them taken apart and put back together.

00:47:22.940 --> 00:47:27.820
Yeah. Yeah. So I'd be looking at a couple hundred.

00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.440
I am wondering how long it is before we have

00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.820
to rebuild them. Do they sell a rebuild kit?

00:47:35.699 --> 00:47:38.480
Oh good, they do. It's six dollars for a rebuild

00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:45.380
kit. Yay. This will be your second winner on

00:47:45.380 --> 00:47:53.679
those, right? What, the Apex? Yeah. Yeah? Did

00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.099
you still, did you have problems with them in

00:47:56.099 --> 00:47:58.880
the first winner, Aaron Down, like with them

00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.340
freezing and stuff, or were they okay? The only

00:48:01.340 --> 00:48:04.480
problem I ever had... was when I first had them

00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.519
installed we were at rocks and valleys and they

00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:10.780
were consistently losing air um what ended up

00:48:10.780 --> 00:48:12.840
being was that when they installed them they

00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.679
bent or they twisted one of the o -rings so it

00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.000
wasn't sealing and then they fixed it the next

00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:23.300
day and i've had a problem since cool yeah that'd

00:48:23.300 --> 00:48:27.449
be my luck for sure and one thing We gotta do

00:48:27.449 --> 00:48:29.969
this yet, but we talk about it every time we

00:48:29.969 --> 00:48:33.170
have to use them is we need to get the bower,

00:48:33.230 --> 00:48:36.849
the little bower sprayer so we can spray them

00:48:36.849 --> 00:48:40.130
off before we deflate just to make sure there's

00:48:40.130 --> 00:48:43.409
no dirt or grime in there. Yeah. Yeah. That's

00:48:43.409 --> 00:48:45.769
why I usually blast my hair before I even hook

00:48:45.769 --> 00:48:48.889
up to it. Yeah. I do that same thing too with

00:48:48.889 --> 00:48:53.900
my little compressor. So, um, What else? There's

00:48:53.900 --> 00:48:55.760
nothing else we really have to do to prep our

00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:59.019
trucks for winter, though. Make sure our coolant

00:48:59.019 --> 00:49:05.900
and our, what is it, our rain washer fluid is

00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:09.280
all up to snuff. I did have water in mine for

00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:10.760
a little bit, but I already drained that out,

00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:13.199
so. Dude, it definitely thinks I'm in San Francisco.

00:49:13.300 --> 00:49:15.380
This is honestly making me mad at this point.

00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:21.980
I think maybe I'm gonna throw some fuel treatment

00:49:21.980 --> 00:49:25.460
in my gas tank a little bit for what usually

00:49:25.460 --> 00:49:34.500
just I used to just do it just cuz I Don't know

00:49:34.500 --> 00:49:36.920
every other tank I used to throw a little bit

00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:41.300
of seafoam in there and It just acted like it

00:49:41.300 --> 00:49:43.380
switched, but it's still showing me San Francisco,

00:49:43.380 --> 00:49:46.239
California. This is honestly gonna make me upset.

00:49:46.699 --> 00:49:49.789
It's a sign Yeah, that's the sign I need to go

00:49:49.789 --> 00:49:54.150
out there yeah Dude they were talking about going

00:49:54.150 --> 00:49:56.429
to Black Hills and one of the group chats and

00:49:56.429 --> 00:50:00.409
that would be so cool. I I would love to go to

00:50:00.409 --> 00:50:03.469
like South Dakota the Black Hills area. Yeah,

00:50:03.690 --> 00:50:12.769
I it's about it on a very Overestimated value

00:50:12.769 --> 00:50:17.090
would be like $1 ,500 in gas just to go out there

00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.219
And that's overestimating, and that's accounting

00:50:19.219 --> 00:50:22.719
for a little more driving. That's over accounting

00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:27.320
for how much fuel consumption I have. But 1 ,500's

00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.920
like a safe amount for gas there and back. And

00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.500
it'd just be really cool to get out of state

00:50:33.500 --> 00:50:37.400
somewhere. Like not south, but west. Like I've

00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.699
never been west, like more west than Wisconsin.

00:50:41.909 --> 00:50:44.449
really want to go west I really want to see that

00:50:44.449 --> 00:50:47.170
stuff out there like the videos of everybody

00:50:47.170 --> 00:50:51.630
like driving past like these gorgeous views and

00:50:51.630 --> 00:50:54.289
it's the the fact that they're like they don't

00:50:54.289 --> 00:50:56.489
even acknowledge it and I'm looking at I'm like

00:50:56.489 --> 00:50:58.969
that's like the coolest shit I've ever seen I

00:50:58.969 --> 00:51:01.710
mean like there's people that see like to come

00:51:01.710 --> 00:51:05.670
on Mount Falls and say the same thing right I

00:51:05.670 --> 00:51:08.389
know but it's like it's like I want to see that

00:51:08.389 --> 00:51:12.440
shit and Just want to get out there dude. I'm

00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.679
hoping that this winter with what our plan is

00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:18.579
that we can get out Maybe sometime late this

00:51:18.579 --> 00:51:23.300
winter either go south to Tennessee Kentucky

00:51:23.300 --> 00:51:29.079
or Go west somewhere, but west with snow. I Don't

00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:31.639
know. I'd rather go south where it's a little

00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:37.059
colder and not as much snow at the time I Northwest

00:51:37.059 --> 00:51:39.880
is okay. I've spent a lot of time in like the

00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:44.639
northwest area Southwest is where it's at better

00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.280
views better wheeling and when I say better views,

00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.599
I don't mean like Just cuz it's brown. I don't

00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.519
care about the desert. You see more there than

00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:57.639
you do in the northwest It's just you see more

00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.619
northwest. It's like I'm in a really pretty area,

00:52:00.619 --> 00:52:02.719
but there's trees on my left There's trees on

00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:06.170
my right. I don't see anything right That's what

00:52:06.170 --> 00:52:08.869
I like though. I don't like open areas. I like

00:52:08.869 --> 00:52:10.969
trees on my left and right. You have that here.

00:52:11.409 --> 00:52:17.210
I want it in different areas too. It's a place

00:52:17.210 --> 00:52:21.630
I haven't seen. I want to see the different geographics.

00:52:22.650 --> 00:52:25.090
I want to see that with Arizona and all that

00:52:25.090 --> 00:52:29.469
too, but my dream is to always go up to Pacific

00:52:29.469 --> 00:52:31.670
Northwest and I want to be able to get out there

00:52:31.670 --> 00:52:34.469
before the kids start school. Because once he

00:52:34.469 --> 00:52:37.010
starts kindergarten or something or traveling,

00:52:37.409 --> 00:52:39.630
it's going to be very limited. Will you just

00:52:39.630 --> 00:52:45.070
go in the summer? I want to go all year. That's

00:52:45.070 --> 00:52:48.690
the thing. I don't want to have to limit my travel

00:52:48.690 --> 00:52:52.489
to one part of the year. I want to go all year.

00:52:53.050 --> 00:52:56.610
I want to be able to experience that stuff. If

00:52:56.610 --> 00:52:58.090
it means taking them out of school for a week

00:52:58.090 --> 00:53:02.130
or something like that, I will 100 % justify

00:53:02.130 --> 00:53:05.559
that. I just have to make sure it's not to the

00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:07.579
point to where he has to make it up, you know.

00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.800
Yeah. Well, isn't that also thought about homeschooling

00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:15.000
him? Isn't it illegal to just pull him out of

00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:18.039
school for a week now? They like make a big fit

00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.639
about that. If he's sick with Covid, what can

00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:25.679
they do? Remember, like a couple of years ago,

00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:27.579
dude, you had a slightest cough and you were

00:53:27.579 --> 00:53:33.199
out for a week. So in school. Like, I remember,

00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:35.920
because we were here on the second half of COVID,

00:53:36.900 --> 00:53:39.760
like Sienna's cousins, if they even had a cold,

00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:42.139
a sniffle, a runny nose, they were out for like

00:53:42.139 --> 00:53:44.860
a whole seven days to make sure that it wasn't

00:53:44.860 --> 00:53:47.059
COVID. So they'd like come over to the house

00:53:47.059 --> 00:53:48.820
all the time because they're like, well, we have

00:53:48.820 --> 00:53:51.559
nowhere to go. Well, and no one had a cold during

00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.659
COVID. Everyone had COVID. Everybody had COVID

00:53:54.659 --> 00:53:57.539
and every one of the tests was put. turning up

00:53:57.539 --> 00:54:00.440
positive. It was every single one and it there's

00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:03.860
no way that was true, dude. No way. No. COVID

00:54:03.860 --> 00:54:06.420
was a scam. We all know it. COVID was a scam.

00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:10.159
It's being proven now. The flu was deadlier.

00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.119
More people died of the flu during COVID than

00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:14.980
people that died of COVID. But everyone that

00:54:14.980 --> 00:54:20.340
died of the flu died of COVID. Yeah. Yeah. We

00:54:20.340 --> 00:54:22.360
aren't going to get down that that loophole.

00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:24.820
That was a crazy. Especially not at an hour.

00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:29.519
like. Yeah. Yeah. We're at 55 minutes now. So,

00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:32.480
I think it's almost time to wrap it up. Do we

00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.199
have any closing news? Uh I plan on getting a

00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:39.840
refract this Saturday. Oh, good. Mark, what's

00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:43.480
wrong with your truck? Oh, exhaust. I mean, it's

00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:45.260
been wrong for a while but now it's really bad

00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:47.360
right now. It's running. It's just like falling

00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:53.940
off. My brother thinks I might have uh um Not

00:54:53.940 --> 00:54:56.840
gasket, but whatever the joining parts for the

00:54:56.840 --> 00:55:00.019
exhaust, he thinks all those are bad. Oh, we

00:55:00.019 --> 00:55:02.440
got to get on that. We got to fix that before

00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:05.360
we go to Missouri. Yeah, I'm on a straight pipe

00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.539
that baby. I figure out what exhausts I'm running,

00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.739
so I just got to get it ordered and hopefully

00:55:09.739 --> 00:55:13.440
be here. Supposedly it could be here by Saturday.

00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.179
I highly doubt that. So probably be something

00:55:16.179 --> 00:55:19.599
we do next weekend. It's all bolt on. Yeah, I'm

00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.590
assuming. Yeah. That'd be cool. You're gonna

00:55:22.590 --> 00:55:27.530
start sounded like a mean Mean I bet you it sounds

00:55:27.530 --> 00:55:30.769
about the same well not like it does now, but

00:55:30.769 --> 00:55:33.769
about the same it did from the factory yeah,

00:55:33.769 --> 00:55:37.730
but That's fine cuz it's pretty bad right now.

00:55:37.789 --> 00:55:42.429
Yeah, yeah Yeah, well on that note. I guess we

00:55:42.429 --> 00:55:45.030
will see how all that pans out I know I'm getting

00:55:45.030 --> 00:55:48.210
my bison stuff tomorrow, so on our next rap.

00:55:48.210 --> 00:55:51.400
I'll have some info about that Didn't even do

00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:55.380
a rep. Also got my cold weather tent for Light

00:55:55.380 --> 00:55:58.019
Fighter. Yeah, you better bring that. You better

00:55:58.019 --> 00:55:59.500
bring that this weekend because I want to check

00:55:59.500 --> 00:56:04.880
it out. Yep. Oh, well. Gonna camp in my yard

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:09.179
this weekend. Yeah, at least Friday night. Yeah.

00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:14.079
Fun. Is Alan busy Sunday, too? Yeah, I think

00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:18.019
he's going to Ann Arbor with me. OK. You said

00:56:18.019 --> 00:56:19.579
Friday night you guys are camping in the yard?

00:56:19.769 --> 00:56:26.869
Yeah. Hmm. I'll see what we have going on. I

00:56:26.869 --> 00:56:30.010
have a propane fire pit I want to try out. I

00:56:30.010 --> 00:56:33.750
have my area light that I want to try out. I'd

00:56:33.750 --> 00:56:37.309
love to just camp for one day. I need to. That

00:56:37.309 --> 00:56:41.610
fixed Alex. I can't get my area light to charge

00:56:41.610 --> 00:56:45.309
and it's making me very upset. I think you'd

00:56:45.309 --> 00:56:50.340
rate it dead dead and it's just like nope. Oh.

00:56:50.340 --> 00:56:53.360
Oh, I just I just plugged it into my keyboard

00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.199
charger and it worked. Maybe it's just really

00:56:56.199 --> 00:57:00.420
picky about the charger. I can see that. Could

00:57:00.420 --> 00:57:03.840
be. I should pick up. Alright, well, I will uh

00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:05.619
yeah, the area lights are cool, man. You guys

00:57:05.619 --> 00:57:08.619
gotta see this one at like at night time. This

00:57:08.619 --> 00:57:12.159
thing's sued. This little husky from uh Home

00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:16.079
Depot for like $23, right? Yeah. It's not as

00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:18.510
good as a light ranger. Obviously, it's twenty

00:57:18.510 --> 00:57:21.349
three dollars. This thing's fucking banging,

00:57:21.389 --> 00:57:25.050
dude. It's got a tripod mount and magnets so

00:57:25.050 --> 00:57:27.230
you can stick it on a tripod. So like I had it

00:57:27.230 --> 00:57:32.849
on my my tripod I use for my. Whatever that thing

00:57:32.849 --> 00:57:36.429
for my phone is. Oh, the gimbal. Yeah, thank

00:57:36.429 --> 00:57:39.070
you. I use it on the tripod for that, dude. So

00:57:39.070 --> 00:57:42.210
it's sitting at like six foot high. Beautiful.

00:57:42.829 --> 00:57:46.960
Oh, my God. Yeah, we've been we've used the the

00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:49.559
DeVos or Devos or whatever you call it. I think

00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:53.079
of DeVos like the DeVos center. It's spelled

00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:55.739
the same, but it's a very different pronunciation.

00:57:57.460 --> 00:58:01.059
We use the DeVos for all of our like inside the

00:58:01.059 --> 00:58:04.440
house painting and stuff. And then we lost power

00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:07.800
for a night. And I use that as an aerial light

00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:09.900
and it lit the whole kitchen up better than my

00:58:09.900 --> 00:58:13.360
kitchen light did. So I think sick. And it lasts

00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.940
a good, like, on full, it lasts a good four to

00:58:16.940 --> 00:58:19.099
six hours, I want to say. Yeah, that's impressive.

00:58:19.940 --> 00:58:24.440
So yeah, so I'm excited to try that out. Yeah,

00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:27.840
maybe I'll have to pop either pop in Friday or

00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:29.840
come in and camp Friday. We'll see what we got

00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:32.840
going on. The canopy, the canopy wanted to the

00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:34.880
canopy will probably be set up, but you won't

00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:36.320
want to be in it because we're going to wash

00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:39.300
it. Fuck if it's supposed to snow on Sunday,

00:58:39.300 --> 00:58:42.340
we can't do that this weekend. No gonna freeze

00:58:42.340 --> 00:58:47.360
Nope, I wonder if it I wonder if it fits in my

00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:51.900
shop. I Think it'll be close, but I think we're

00:58:51.900 --> 00:58:54.400
working the shop because we can put it in my

00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:58.360
wash bay and then pop it up and Use the water

00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:01.800
right there in the wash bay and wash it. Yeah

00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:07.079
Perfect. All right, so I think that's it Yeah.

00:59:08.219 --> 00:59:10.860
But we have to wait 20 seconds to make it exactly

00:59:10.860 --> 00:59:14.539
one hour. Oh. Well, check out all of our socials.

00:59:14.539 --> 00:59:16.280
I don't think the record will be an hour, though,

00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:20.659
because we technically started before. We technically

00:59:20.659 --> 00:59:22.440
started after the actual two hours. Yeah, we

00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:26.599
have all our countdown. Unless we want to include

00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:28.760
our 10 -second countdown, which I almost did

00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:32.780
on our last episode. I got in, and I was like,

00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:35.639
oh. We're counting down. I have to delete that

00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:40.500
real quick. And we're Audi. Bye. Yes. Later.

00:59:40.739 --> 00:59:40.840
Bye.
