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Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk

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about everything from gear reviews to trail stories,

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tent camping to rock landing, and all things

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to do with the outdoors. It's been a little bit,

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guys. Like, I know I recorded last week alone.

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I think me and Mark recorded the week before

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that with Tyler. Oh, that's, that's why this

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feels so out. Cause two weeks ago, we recorded

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on a Sunday with Tyler for more flight last week.

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I recorded with, Oh, by the way, that episode

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is definitely not out yet. By the way, I recorded

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with Dan Greck. Um, I just remembered. I need

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to edit that yet. Yeah. Okay. You guys will get

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that episode. It's a really good one. Yeah. Uh,

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it's with Dan Greck. Uh, He's an author. You'll

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have to look him up. He's pretty cool. I wish

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Gavin was here for that, by the way. Yeah. Because,

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you know, I like the off -road thing, but Dan's

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more of an overlander, and Gavin and him probably

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could have talked for hours. Like, super cool

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fucking dude. Oh, yeah, especially since he just

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got a kid, too. Yeah, he just had a kid. Yep.

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Yeah. I don't remember what I had going on, but

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I had something going on. Oh, I think it was...

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Home improvement? I think it was, yeah. Yeah,

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I had a home improvement, and then, well, that

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was, I think. That was the day that you took

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Sienna out across the state. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

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I got up at, we got up at 1 a .m. to go to East

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Hollis, which is about three and a half hours

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away, because she can't drive, but she had an

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inventory. So she can drive, but at night, she

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has, like. uh early onset glaucoma some kind

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of shit like that like she has glaucoma she has

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a specialist uh it gets worse constantly and

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so at night she cannot drive very well she can't

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see everything's really mushy and lights are

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very stringy and so a three and a half hour drive

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getting up at 1 a .m going all the way over there

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uh was just not a good idea And it's not like

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she can really just say no. Right. So me and

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the boy and her, we all got up, drove over there.

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She went to work. And we sat in the parking lot

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for a few hours. And then after she finally got

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out, we went to a park to actually make some

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use of the time. We went to the state park over

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there and got there, forgot that the car doesn't

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have a wreck pass because we take the truck everywhere

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we need a wreck pass for. uh like the state park

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pass yeah so we got up there and we're like how

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much is the state park pass she's like well nobody's

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working we don't have any you know any money

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to pay these guys so she goes come on in i'm

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like fuck yeah so we got in there checked out

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the lighthouse walked along the shore you got

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to play in a little sea foam and then yeah we

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packed up and came all the way back and By the

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time we came back, it was already pretty late.

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None of us had slept a wink yet except the kid,

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and we were just fucking crazy exhausted beyond

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belief. I should have had Jasper on. He could

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have helped me with that interview. Oh, God.

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He would have deleted everything. He likes this

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RGB keyboard, so he'd be tapping on that the

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whole time. Wait, do you still have it set to

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rainbow puke? When you say RGB? No, it's dark

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green and bluish. No, I don't have it. It only

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goes to rainbow puke usually when I'm logged

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out or like between sessions. So it doesn't save

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its RGB settings? No, so like when you log out

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of your account. and it goes to, like, switch

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user, it goes to RGB. That's really annoying.

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Mine, I can save. I'm sure you could switch it.

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I just don't know the technology. Mine saves

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the RGB settings, so I set it, and then it just

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keeps it until it randomly forgets it. But it's

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annoying because I don't run Linux, or I don't

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run Windows. I run Linux, and my keyboard requires

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Windows to set the RGB. So I set it one time

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and I used it and it kept forgetting profiles

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until all of a sudden I had no profiles. So now

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it's just a normal keyboard. Yeah, I have for

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my profile, it's dark green. And then for CNS

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profile, it's purple. And then when you're in

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that selection, the login selection, it's RGB.

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So it is what it is. I don't really care, honestly.

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It doesn't really bother me when it's in that

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because I'm usually always in my profile. Even

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when I'm off, I just turn the desktop monitor

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and the color off on the mouse and keyboard.

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It's like the night light. It's a lot more than

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I do. I just walk away from my desk. Oh, well,

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yours is in your room. Yeah, so the kid will

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get up here and fuck with it if I leave all my

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stuff on. So anyways, now that we've had five

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minutes of keyboard talk, is that a Mac keyboard?

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Do you know what a Mac keyboard is? A what keyboard?

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A mechanical keyboard. Clank, clank, clank, clank,

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clank. No, mechanical keyboards don't have to

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go clank. I just have noisy switches. Not really,

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no. It's just like a Corsair. I mean, Corsair

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makes mechanical keyboards. i don't know man

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i don't know what it is it's a keyboard it doesn't

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make louder sounds than a typical keyboard so

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no i don't think so well my although sienna likes

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those mechanical ones that make the big like

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we went to best buy and she's like that's why

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i like this one i like the sound it makes yeah

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so i like i like noisier keyboards that's why

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the listeners hear me my clanking here and there

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um but i have built mechanical keyboards that

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make literally no sound The benefit is that when

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a switch dies, so if a key quits working, usually

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you throw the keyboard out and get a new one.

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With a mechanical one, you just change the switch

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so you can keep using your keyboard without...

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Yeah. Like, mine's been doused in beer a few

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times, and whenever I get a key that gets sticky,

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I just move it to a less used key. There you

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go. Yeah, it works. But anyways, this is a wrap,

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but it's going to be a long wrap because it's

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like three weeks of wraps. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,

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mine's only about a week. I don't really have

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anything going on. We had the Gilmore Museum,

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which we haven't talked about, which was amazing,

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by the way. It was. There was quite a few FJs

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there, too. There were quite a few FJs there.

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I know. I always have FOMO. I hate missing out

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on this stuff, but we just couldn't. You had

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a wedding or something. We had a wedding. Yeah,

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you had a wedding. I tried to get out of it just

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because I wanted to go to Nolan's wedding. uh

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which uh congratulations nolan on your marriage

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but uh but yeah no sienna's cousin had one and

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i had forgotten about it and we did the rsvp

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and everything so so you're stuck yeah we uh

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we went me mark allen and joe karen from i guess

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he's from beyond the mitten now um hmm my wife

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backed out last minute and i'm like all right

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who's someone i could sit in a truck with for

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like three hours and not hate them you know what

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i mean yeah um then it came who's not busy yeah

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but it was fun uh we went down we didn't win

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any awards because a stock forerunner with a

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rooftop tent is better than my long travel forerunner

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and a stock jk is somehow the best rig there

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even though there were much better built jks

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that was the third place oh was it who was first

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oh the f -150 ford yeah it was weird yeah it

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sounds like they were judging them like sima

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builds it was they have to be super shiny voters

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opinions it was user choice it was weird it was

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weird that's what it was um That's okay. I'm

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sure you guys still had fun. It was great. It

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was a great time. There's a slot car track there,

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and it got us addicted to slot cars. Yeah, we

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went there for one hobby and came back with another

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one. So now I have a slot car track in my upstairs

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extra bedroom, and I pretty much spend all my

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free time whipping cars around this track. We

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got another box right here of slot cars. It's

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a problem. It's going to be a problem. I feel

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it. I can already see hobby -wise the stupid

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TikTok excavators, bulldozers, and stuff. I would

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buy those, and I could spend hours. Do those

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come in HO scale? Because we could totally put

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that in the world we're going to build. What's

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HO? 164th. Like Hot Wheels size. I think those

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are a little bit bigger. These are bigger. These

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are like model cars. 164. I want to say they're

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124. HO is your average model train. They're

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about that size. I've seen the one where they

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had the basement and they've just been excavating

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the crap out of it. I think they're around that

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size. They come in 1 8th or 1 14th, but not 1

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64th. I want the bigger ones because I want to

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take them out when we camp and stuff and we could

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build fire pits. Yeah. Or clear fire pits. They're

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really fun. They got a bulldozer, a bulldozer,

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excavator, front end loader. The actual good

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like usable ones, the ones that they use in the

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TikTok reels, those are like $2 ,000 toys. Yeah,

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I don't want those ones. I just want the toy

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ones. Because those have dumpable buckets and

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stuff. They articulate. They have all that. They're

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not actually die -cast like they claim. You can

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get this one, the Huuna 1593. It's an alloy.

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It's not die -cast. It's alloy. But I don't know.

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They're cool. I want to play with one really

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bad. Yeah, I think they're like $38, $40 a piece,

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something like that. For the whole set, it's

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like 120, like a set of four or five. Yeah, I've

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been. I just want them, play them with them in

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the dirt, give the kid one of the controllers

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and just kind of hang out and do that. I mean,

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that'd be a fun thing to do at camp because I

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think a lot of the times, I was already talking

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to Alex about this earlier, like a lot of the

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times you get to camp and I hate to say it, but

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sometimes like relaxing is boring. Relaxing is

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always boring. you know what i mean so like you

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get to camp and you're all set up and yeah you

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relax for a few hours a lot of the times i do

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my relaxing at night after we're done traveling

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all day so i would say you so then when you have

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12 hours in between that and you're like uh so

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now what if you remember usually i get bored

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and start fucking with my truck at camp yeah

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so it would give us an activity to kind of do

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they don't take up a lot of space and give us

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something to do for a couple hours maybe more

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i don't know it depends it'd be fun to do as

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like uh as the botches group just get a couple

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beers go out and do that pair that with some

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uh rc race cars that are set up for like dirt

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drags build race tracks with the excavator and

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stuff and then race the rc cars i'll be fun yeah

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make jumps that's what i'm saying yeah Do, like,

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three runners, two -wheel drive three runners

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just to whip around. And then also have crawlers

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because, well, crawlers are sick. Yeah, I mean,

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as a kid, I never had RC cars. I never had Power

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Wheels or anything like that. We didn't make

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that kind of money. So I had always wanted one.

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And now that these kids, these RC cars are like

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a dime a dozen. And you can get decent ones for

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really cheap. So it's like. I was like, dude,

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I kind of want to tap into that childhood fantasy

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and get some of these. I always had RC cars because

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I got my cousin's hand -me -downs, but they were

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like $30 RC cars from Walmart. And they were

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usually like missing tire rubber by the time

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I got them. I never even got the cheap ones that

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had like... Like, you get those really cheap

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ones from Walmart, and they just have a forward

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and a backward button. Yeah, I had those. I never

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even got those. Like, it was all Hot Wheels.

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I had one. The one new RC I got, it was an RC

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Dragonfly, and it was the coolest fucking thing,

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dude. All styrofoam body with Dragonfly wings,

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and it actually flew. Like, it was really cool.

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Oh. I did have those hand -activated foam helicopters.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. You zip the line, and they go...

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I had those. Yeah, those lasted about a day before

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those ended up in a tree or the neighbor's yard,

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and we never found them again. I think the last

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RC cars I had was the battle one with laser tags.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. It had an orange Camaro and a

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blue Mustang. I'm purposely trying to stay out

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of RC, though, because I have a problem with

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hobbies, and RC's kind of expensive to, like...

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If I got into RC, I couldn't just buy an RC car

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and leave it alone. I'd have to upgrade it and

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modify it. And I can't afford that, dude. I got

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a truck. I'm buying another truck. I get into

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these TikTok guys. These guys overseas in Asia

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or something. And they're making old semis. And

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they're using complete axles. They're doing lathes

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and stuff to bore out brake. Yeah. brake drums

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like disc brakes and i'm like holy like they're

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doing everything by lathe they're making everything

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custom and it's like oh my god you think that's

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the cheaper way to do it but those the equipment

00:14:32.950 --> 00:14:36.370
is so expensive yeah you have to have all the

00:14:36.370 --> 00:14:38.169
lathes and stuff for it and i'm watching him

00:14:38.169 --> 00:14:41.029
make all this stuff and it's like it's a scaled

00:14:41.029 --> 00:14:44.929
down like suspension of an actual vehicle like

00:14:44.929 --> 00:14:48.149
he makes tie rods like i'm like dude this is

00:14:48.149 --> 00:14:50.889
crazy and then he just goes and drives I'm like,

00:14:51.049 --> 00:14:54.529
dude, but it's cool. Like they drive them through

00:14:54.529 --> 00:14:57.110
mud, like fully loaded and stuff. And I'm like,

00:14:57.129 --> 00:15:00.210
that'd be fun. Yeah. So we, uh, so we got into

00:15:00.210 --> 00:15:02.629
the slot car thing. Uh, other things that happened,

00:15:02.710 --> 00:15:06.389
they had a Bantam, which I have seen one in the

00:15:06.389 --> 00:15:08.970
past at a car show, but there's just something

00:15:08.970 --> 00:15:11.690
about seeing, uh, one of the first Jeeps ever

00:15:11.690 --> 00:15:14.470
assembled, just sitting there just looking pretty.

00:15:14.629 --> 00:15:19.899
Yep. Um, so that's pretty cool. Uh, Sadly, they

00:15:19.899 --> 00:15:24.559
did not have a W41, so the whole me wanting to

00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.840
see another Oldsmobile thing, that got put to

00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:30.639
the side. Oh, but there is one of those for sale

00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:32.919
right now for $4 ,000, and if I didn't just make

00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.139
a deal to buy another 4Runner, I would definitely

00:15:35.139 --> 00:15:39.960
be trying to buy it. Yep. Because I wish it came

00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:42.059
up like... Actually, if it came up three weeks

00:15:42.059 --> 00:15:45.860
ago, my dad would have bought it. But... Now

00:15:45.860 --> 00:15:48.840
he's putting $18 ,000 into a Duramax that he

00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:57.059
paid $21 ,000 for because Duramax. I just, when

00:15:57.059 --> 00:15:59.580
he bought the Duramax, there was a power stroke

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that had everything done to it. It was ready

00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.779
to go. It was beautiful and better shape than

00:16:03.779 --> 00:16:07.360
this one for the same price. And he had already

00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:09.240
went down to Florida, but he didn't want to drive

00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.379
an hour out of his way to go look at this power

00:16:11.379 --> 00:16:13.700
stroke. So he went 20 minutes out of his way.

00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:16.279
to look at this Duramax and bought that instead.

00:16:17.419 --> 00:16:21.200
And I just, it was such a misstep. Really, just

00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:23.440
Duramax is in general. He's had nothing but bad

00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:28.919
luck with them. Yeah. I think we lost Gavin to

00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:34.879
his game about singing ladies. No. No. Just communicating

00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:38.179
to the other teams that they need to vacate the

00:16:38.179 --> 00:16:43.139
premises before reset. See, what else happened

00:16:43.139 --> 00:16:48.139
in the last couple weeks? We had Cords and Calf

00:16:48.139 --> 00:16:51.059
and Rigs and Coffee. Cords and Calf. Yeah. And

00:16:51.059 --> 00:16:55.360
Rigs and Coffee. That was fun. Cords and Calf

00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:59.320
was fun. I got there late because I thought it

00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:02.940
was at 12, like the last one. I was like, so

00:17:02.940 --> 00:17:04.019
okay. I thought the last one started at 10 too.

00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:06.359
I thought it started at 12. I think they both

00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:10.319
started at 10. Yeah, well, then I just got it

00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.980
messed up then, got it switched around. But I

00:17:12.980 --> 00:17:14.680
was like, okay, yeah, we'll be a little late

00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:16.160
because, you know, seeing I had to get stuff

00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.160
around, and I had clothes in the washer and dryer

00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.880
that weren't done yet. So then we finally get

00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:24.839
out there, and everyone's like, oh, perfect timing,

00:17:24.859 --> 00:17:26.420
we're getting ready to go wheeling. And I'm like,

00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:31.000
okay, cool, perfect timing. So we all run out

00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:34.220
there. I mean, honestly, I think we pretty much

00:17:34.220 --> 00:17:37.380
just re -ran most of the routes off a poker run.

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And that was a lot of fun. We just didn't do

00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:44.480
the one loop. Yeah. Well, what I thought was

00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:47.460
really fun about that day in particular was every

00:17:47.460 --> 00:17:49.920
rig was built to a point where it could do every

00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.779
obstacle. Every driver was competent enough that

00:17:53.779 --> 00:17:56.980
we didn't have to stop every 30 seconds. I mean,

00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.980
we were able to get out, do what we needed to

00:17:59.980 --> 00:18:03.420
do, have fun without having to drag people through

00:18:03.420 --> 00:18:08.529
and wait for people. Yeah. I think I think there

00:18:08.529 --> 00:18:12.250
are definitely I think I feel pros to bringing

00:18:12.250 --> 00:18:15.910
new people. I like to show new people the fun

00:18:15.910 --> 00:18:18.910
that you can have. But there are times where

00:18:18.910 --> 00:18:21.930
doing it without them and working on yourself

00:18:21.930 --> 00:18:25.069
instead of focusing on other people is is more

00:18:25.069 --> 00:18:27.210
enjoyable. And that's what that is. You know,

00:18:27.210 --> 00:18:30.250
that was a chance to test yourself and to see

00:18:30.250 --> 00:18:32.630
like, hey, this is where I've come. I can now

00:18:32.630 --> 00:18:35.599
hang with the big boys. Like usually when I bring

00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:37.420
new people out, I want it to be in a smaller

00:18:37.420 --> 00:18:40.680
group of like one to three. We had, I think we

00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:43.359
had six or seven rigs out there. Yeah. Yeah.

00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:47.000
We had seven, nine. Oh, you count not counting

00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.119
us. It'd be seven. Oh really? Yeah. We're almost

00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:52.259
at 10. We had a lot of, I thought we were at

00:18:52.259 --> 00:18:56.319
seven, one, two, eight, eight, eight total. Yep.

00:18:56.500 --> 00:18:59.339
You know, that's a, that's a bigger group than

00:18:59.339 --> 00:19:02.720
I would normally go out with. Um, but like i

00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.140
said we were all competent and we knew what we

00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:08.079
were doing we just got out we did our thing we

00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.460
came back yeah and when you have people experience

00:19:11.460 --> 00:19:16.819
like that the number of rigs that's acceptable

00:19:16.819 --> 00:19:20.140
like for that kind of thing it can change like

00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:22.839
like typically like alex said like usually we

00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.140
would do like the group of us like four yep uh

00:19:26.140 --> 00:19:28.880
but you know when you have everybody who kind

00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:32.519
of knows what the deal is how to get through

00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:35.000
everything already we all had that kind of experience

00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:38.039
with poker run maybe except for a few of us but

00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.980
they got through it all fine uh it it makes it

00:19:40.980 --> 00:19:43.880
a lot easier to make your group a little larger

00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:47.039
i mean everybody's on the same page if we do

00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:49.359
stop and it's a longer stop everyone knows to

00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:52.420
like hey if you have to piss do it now we're

00:19:52.420 --> 00:19:55.579
not you know we don't stop for a minute oh i

00:19:55.579 --> 00:19:58.420
gotta pee then stop a couple minutes later oh

00:19:58.420 --> 00:20:04.680
she has to pee It's business. And, you know,

00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:07.799
I think everyone got through every single obstacle

00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:12.500
aside from at the end there, Shane got hung up

00:20:12.500 --> 00:20:16.619
in that one -off camber mud climb. It's not really

00:20:16.619 --> 00:20:19.559
a hill climb. It's not a rock climb. Let's call

00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.279
it what it is. It's a mud climb. It's an uphill,

00:20:22.500 --> 00:20:28.839
crazy rutted out, muddy climb. Yeah, it's hard

00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:32.430
to explain. But if you listen to our podcast

00:20:32.430 --> 00:20:36.670
back from the poker run, Mark actually D -beated

00:20:36.670 --> 00:20:42.349
at that same spot that Shane got stuck. So it's

00:20:42.349 --> 00:20:46.230
a problem place for people who aren't solid axle

00:20:46.230 --> 00:20:50.549
or people who, I don't know. How would you explain

00:20:50.549 --> 00:20:52.529
that as it's a problem for people who don't have

00:20:52.529 --> 00:20:57.789
articulation? Most of it is articulation and

00:20:57.789 --> 00:21:02.549
some of it's clearance. The bigger thing is not

00:21:02.549 --> 00:21:05.710
getting slopped into there like he did. Yeah,

00:21:05.730 --> 00:21:08.369
he got pulled into it. The line that I took was

00:21:08.369 --> 00:21:10.390
a safer line. I did not get pulled down into

00:21:10.390 --> 00:21:13.589
that three -foot run or whatever it was. I went

00:21:13.589 --> 00:21:16.549
and rode the top line and was able to get out

00:21:16.549 --> 00:21:19.069
of that. I was too wide to run the top line,

00:21:19.190 --> 00:21:22.690
so I had to go through it. i yeah but you're

00:21:22.690 --> 00:21:25.210
built for that dude and i did that you know i

00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:27.170
don't have a working locker right now so i did

00:21:27.170 --> 00:21:29.910
that open open and it was literally no problem

00:21:29.910 --> 00:21:33.390
at all um shane is open open too isn't he is

00:21:33.390 --> 00:21:37.609
yep uh yeah so the only down part of that the

00:21:37.609 --> 00:21:41.289
only downside i had was my 35s in the back uh

00:21:41.289 --> 00:21:44.920
when it tucked when they tucked up the one that

00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:47.039
was in the body would bind, and then all the

00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:49.779
power would go to the other one. So I was having

00:21:49.779 --> 00:21:51.579
a little bit of a traction problem, but, I mean,

00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:54.859
I walked up it. It just, I need to cut out the

00:21:54.859 --> 00:21:58.579
back of my truck. My biggest problem with that

00:21:58.579 --> 00:22:03.619
whole thing was 100%. About halfway up, I stopped

00:22:03.619 --> 00:22:07.680
moving. I couldn't move at all, and I'm just

00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:10.240
spinning, and I'm like, what the fuck? What's

00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:12.279
going on? Like, I should be able to do this.

00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:14.160
I really should. Like, there's no problem. I'm

00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:18.319
aired down. I know my truck. I'm sitting there

00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.119
looking around. Like, why does it feel like I'm

00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.920
slipping? And I look down. My traction control

00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:25.940
is blinking. I'm like, why the fuck is that blinking

00:22:25.940 --> 00:22:28.819
in four -wheel drive? And I look down at my shifter,

00:22:28.859 --> 00:22:31.000
and I'm like, oh, fuck, I'm in two -wheel drive.

00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:33.740
I remember that. Yeah, so when I went to shift,

00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:36.380
I don't look when I shift. Typically, I'm pretty

00:22:36.380 --> 00:22:39.109
good at, you know, knowing where. Four low, four

00:22:39.109 --> 00:22:42.869
high is. So when I threw it in neutral and shifted,

00:22:42.950 --> 00:22:46.990
I accidentally shifted into second or two -wheel

00:22:46.990 --> 00:22:49.750
drive. Not second, but two -wheel drive. And

00:22:49.750 --> 00:22:52.390
that's why I stopped moving. So I shifted it

00:22:52.390 --> 00:22:57.230
back over and up into two low. Four low. Or four

00:22:57.230 --> 00:23:01.369
low, sorry. Yeah. Four low. And then I went right

00:23:01.369 --> 00:23:03.650
through everything. Yeah, it was. There was no

00:23:03.650 --> 00:23:05.950
problem. And I don't. I mean, we did that other

00:23:05.950 --> 00:23:08.529
hill climb. I don't think anyone really – I mean,

00:23:08.549 --> 00:23:11.430
when we were not aired down, we all started.

00:23:11.430 --> 00:23:15.410
Oh, yeah. Yeah, so we did that first hill climb,

00:23:15.549 --> 00:23:18.109
which in Poker Run, we actually did that backwards.

00:23:18.210 --> 00:23:21.049
Yes, yes. Because there was a large rock that

00:23:21.049 --> 00:23:24.609
I hit my diff on the first time and had to stop

00:23:24.609 --> 00:23:29.990
and go around it. But, yeah, so we – unfortunately,

00:23:30.250 --> 00:23:34.049
all the Toyotas – uh hadn't aired down yet all

00:23:34.049 --> 00:23:36.730
the jeeps had already aired down so they made

00:23:36.730 --> 00:23:38.549
it up no problem and we're like what the fuck

00:23:38.549 --> 00:23:41.650
this isn't this isn't cool like and all the jeep

00:23:41.650 --> 00:23:43.910
guys are they're razzing us like friendly razzing

00:23:43.910 --> 00:23:46.309
they're not like saying oh you got shitty uh

00:23:46.309 --> 00:23:50.130
so we went up and we tried tried it was just

00:23:50.130 --> 00:23:52.390
getting up that first part i never tried it so

00:23:52.390 --> 00:23:55.930
we all aired up yeah so we all aired down once

00:23:55.930 --> 00:23:59.109
alex figured out i had my compressor we all aired

00:23:59.109 --> 00:24:02.730
down and uh yeah and then after that it was no

00:24:02.730 --> 00:24:06.630
problem i i had um where i'd gotten stuck before

00:24:06.630 --> 00:24:10.009
i had no problem getting up after it does it's

00:24:10.009 --> 00:24:12.009
a true testament to like how much airing down

00:24:12.009 --> 00:24:15.269
helps traction and i know mark said something

00:24:15.269 --> 00:24:18.730
about that too like there's you went from getting

00:24:18.730 --> 00:24:21.130
almost all the way up to the top we got pretty

00:24:21.130 --> 00:24:24.970
much to the peak And it's just that little last

00:24:24.970 --> 00:24:28.869
hump over to be level is where pretty much all

00:24:28.869 --> 00:24:31.630
of us were digging down. And once we had aired

00:24:31.630 --> 00:24:34.690
up, that wasn't the problem. I did notice I lost

00:24:34.690 --> 00:24:37.130
some traction once we got up to like the deeper,

00:24:37.250 --> 00:24:40.230
what do you call that, sugar sand? The deep sand.

00:24:40.710 --> 00:24:44.869
Looser than beach sand. yeah so it's loose sand

00:24:44.869 --> 00:24:47.710
up top still wasn't a problem but you could still

00:24:47.710 --> 00:24:49.349
when you drive your truck long enough you could

00:24:49.349 --> 00:24:51.109
still feel when you're starting to lose traction

00:24:51.109 --> 00:24:54.750
so uh yeah that's the only problem i started

00:24:54.750 --> 00:24:57.549
to have but still got through it no problem yeah

00:24:57.549 --> 00:25:01.170
i didn't even i it just went through it i didn't

00:25:01.170 --> 00:25:06.289
really have any problems um it the very top of

00:25:06.289 --> 00:25:07.990
that last time i went through there i was still

00:25:08.509 --> 00:25:12.089
narrow in the front that's gonna be a continuing

00:25:12.089 --> 00:25:14.930
theme here is me being wide is kind of a fucking

00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:19.529
problem um yeah i think the only issue that alex

00:25:19.529 --> 00:25:22.849
did have was those skinny trees oh my god dude

00:25:22.849 --> 00:25:26.430
i rubbed everyone else drives through these two

00:25:26.430 --> 00:25:30.150
trees like nothing's wrong i brushed both sides

00:25:30.150 --> 00:25:34.390
with my tires took some bark off i'm sure yeah

00:25:34.390 --> 00:25:38.730
oh and i did before we hit that i think There

00:25:38.730 --> 00:25:42.190
was a low hanging tree and everybody else went

00:25:42.190 --> 00:25:45.470
through it. And my, my, we boost antenna has

00:25:45.470 --> 00:25:49.650
like, you can change the direction. You can lower

00:25:49.650 --> 00:25:53.150
it that way. It doesn't hit things. I usually

00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:56.470
don't mess with it because it just, I let it

00:25:56.470 --> 00:25:59.390
hit and like, that's what it's there for. But

00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:02.009
that's why there's a spring on it. Right? Like,

00:26:02.049 --> 00:26:05.890
so. I got to it, and it was literally, that tree

00:26:05.890 --> 00:26:09.589
was, like, hitting my boxes. And I was like,

00:26:09.650 --> 00:26:11.829
okay, that's going to be a hard hit on that WeBoost.

00:26:11.869 --> 00:26:13.829
So I went to go lower it, and for some reason

00:26:13.829 --> 00:26:15.890
it was locked up, probably just rust because

00:26:15.890 --> 00:26:19.349
I haven't touched it all summer. So I was like,

00:26:19.349 --> 00:26:22.289
ah. I kind of looked behind me. That guy with

00:26:22.289 --> 00:26:26.309
his brand -new Jeep, it only had 1 ,500 miles.

00:26:26.569 --> 00:26:29.630
Not even 1 ,200 miles, and he's out there. Yeah,

00:26:29.630 --> 00:26:32.779
right. Yep. Which, you know what? Good on him.

00:26:32.859 --> 00:26:36.460
Awesome. Good for you. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm

00:26:36.460 --> 00:26:38.279
like, you know what? I'm just going to cut this

00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:39.920
down. I said it over the radio. I'm just going

00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:41.880
to cut this down, because I could probably go

00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.220
through it, bang my wee -wee stuff and shit,

00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.779
and just go. But I was like, it's definitely

00:26:46.779 --> 00:26:49.000
going to hit your guys' truck, too. So he helped

00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.019
me. He got out. I cut it up, threw it to the

00:26:52.019 --> 00:26:55.759
side. That was the only other real issue. Nothing

00:26:55.759 --> 00:27:00.849
really. We had some water, but for... For Evert,

00:27:00.890 --> 00:27:03.789
that water was pretty low. It was gone. There's

00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:08.589
nothing really crazy. And thankfully, Evert and

00:27:08.589 --> 00:27:12.390
the areas that we traveled, mostly Rocky Bottom,

00:27:12.549 --> 00:27:17.730
a lot of it I didn't have to hammer down through.

00:27:17.829 --> 00:27:20.690
Unfortunately, I was behind Mark, who felt that

00:27:20.690 --> 00:27:26.259
he had to hammer down on every mud puddle. So

00:27:26.259 --> 00:27:28.759
my windshield was completely covered in mud,

00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.420
and the whole front end of my truck was covered

00:27:31.420 --> 00:27:36.519
in mud. Dude, I don't even want to hear it. I

00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:37.740
thought he was going to crack my windshield,

00:27:37.859 --> 00:27:41.359
dude. We got mud globs that big hitting our windshield.

00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.099
I'm like, son of a bitch, I'm going to crack

00:27:43.099 --> 00:27:46.099
it again. The inside of my tire is the outside

00:27:46.099 --> 00:27:49.160
of my body. So the entire side of my truck was

00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:53.039
black. You couldn't see paint. You couldn't see

00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:59.490
through the windows. yeah a little like alex

00:27:59.490 --> 00:28:01.410
is a totally different area than the rest everyone

00:28:01.410 --> 00:28:03.950
else like their trucks were dirty right mine

00:28:03.950 --> 00:28:09.190
was fucking trash oh yeah you had mud yeah you

00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:11.450
had mud all the way up the side of yours and

00:28:11.450 --> 00:28:14.569
whoever was behind you hopefully they didn't

00:28:14.569 --> 00:28:17.589
get it all over theirs but yeah it was yeah it

00:28:17.589 --> 00:28:19.549
was it was fun though it was a really fun day

00:28:19.549 --> 00:28:25.119
uh we when did we stop at about five we were

00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.720
out for about four hours or so like four or five

00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:29.359
yeah i think it was about i think it's about

00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.099
right it's like four or five so okay we did most

00:28:32.099 --> 00:28:34.660
of that in four hours came back tore down camp

00:28:34.660 --> 00:28:40.220
yep yep bullshitted everyone aired up their tires

00:28:40.220 --> 00:28:47.619
and uh and then we left um uh yeah we ended up

00:28:47.619 --> 00:28:50.740
following duncan yeah and then we passed him

00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:53.799
on the highway um and then i slowed down because

00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:55.839
i was like i'm not really in like a massive rush

00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.380
when i was going the speed limit and then here

00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:01.799
comes shane i'm like is that shane like it's

00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.180
starting to get darker out and so i'm looking

00:29:04.180 --> 00:29:06.420
at the silhouette of it and he's got his white

00:29:06.420 --> 00:29:09.140
fog lights on and i'm like man that's set up

00:29:09.140 --> 00:29:11.640
a lot like what shane is and then so we're we're

00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.380
looking on the wolf box and we're like i don't

00:29:14.380 --> 00:29:16.420
know man it looks really you know looking around

00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.579
Finally, we see his rooftop, his roof rack. It's

00:29:20.579 --> 00:29:21.980
got the shovel and the tire on it. I'm like,

00:29:22.059 --> 00:29:25.460
that's fucking Shane. I know it. So then I slow

00:29:25.460 --> 00:29:29.480
down right before we go to our exit, and he passes

00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:34.420
us, and we wave out. We didn't get home until

00:29:34.420 --> 00:29:39.319
almost 10 o 'clock. yeah um i think it was just

00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.579
because it was getting cool pretty damn fast

00:29:41.579 --> 00:29:45.539
and that was sienna was cold my fucking i gotta

00:29:45.539 --> 00:29:48.759
find some heated socks and heated uh gloves for

00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.559
this winter because uh like my the rest of my

00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.859
body's fine like i don't really struggle with

00:29:54.859 --> 00:29:57.420
that but i have really bad circulation and i

00:29:57.420 --> 00:29:59.579
was just standing there it wasn't even that cold

00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:03.759
out probably what 45 at that point i think it

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.579
was that i think 50 maybe yeah Yeah, and the

00:30:07.579 --> 00:30:10.200
tips of my toes were freezing. Dude, I'll tell

00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.519
you, because we camped out that Friday night.

00:30:13.019 --> 00:30:17.519
It is crazy. Inside the swag, it was below freezing.

00:30:17.579 --> 00:30:22.519
It was like high 20s. Inside the swag, we had

00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.420
me, Kaelin, and Jackson. And the air itself was

00:30:26.420 --> 00:30:30.500
probably like 40, 43, somewhere in there. But

00:30:30.500 --> 00:30:32.740
then under the blankets, dude, it was like...

00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.460
I had to climb out from under the blankets. I

00:30:35.460 --> 00:30:39.339
was fucking dying. Yeah, that heavy fabric, I'd

00:30:39.339 --> 00:30:42.380
imagine, is great insulative property. And then

00:30:42.380 --> 00:30:44.700
the dogs had their dog swag for the first camping

00:30:44.700 --> 00:30:46.759
trip. I just put both of them in the one swag,

00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:51.460
and I'm not going to camp without dogs. I have

00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:53.400
to have that tent if I'm camping with dogs from

00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.519
now on. That was by far the best experience I've

00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:01.660
ever had with dogs. Yeah, I think if we go out

00:31:01.660 --> 00:31:03.779
again, we're definitely, at this point, with

00:31:03.779 --> 00:31:08.079
how cold it's getting at night, I keep my room

00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.480
with the window open pretty much. So usually

00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.880
what it is outside is 5 to 10 degrees warmer

00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.319
in the room until it gets to below freezing,

00:31:16.420 --> 00:31:18.980
and then we throw a heater on. But I think at

00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:21.799
this point, we're going to have to do diesel

00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.380
heaters before we go out and do an actual weekend

00:31:25.380 --> 00:31:29.200
again. So yeah, we... Having the dogs in our

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:34.059
tent was great, except at like 5 .30 in the morning,

00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.319
we hear a bunch of commotion. And it wasn't my

00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.559
dogs barking yet. So I unzip my little flap and

00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:43.420
stick my head out. And there's this dude on a

00:31:43.420 --> 00:31:46.200
side -by -side with two huskies that are just

00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.980
going ballistic. And then my dogs start barking.

00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.680
And I watched this dude jump from his moving

00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.359
side -by -side to grab his dogs as they ran into

00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.980
our camp. And then I'm like, man, I don't know

00:31:59.980 --> 00:32:02.660
if my dogs are still there. So I'm like, mercy,

00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.740
speak. Of course, they don't know how to do that.

00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:07.259
But I just needed one of them to make noise.

00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:11.259
Finally, I got Wrangler to wag his tail. So I

00:32:11.259 --> 00:32:15.619
heard thud, thud, thud, thud on his tent. So

00:32:15.619 --> 00:32:17.819
that was great until we woke up and there was

00:32:17.819 --> 00:32:19.900
a random fucking car parked in our campsite.

00:32:21.099 --> 00:32:24.140
well yeah we were awake since then we never went

00:32:24.140 --> 00:32:26.880
back to sleep we were just laid there like can

00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.259
we go back to sleep and then mark goes i think

00:32:29.259 --> 00:32:32.180
i just heard footsteps so we climb out and there's

00:32:32.180 --> 00:32:36.700
this random equinox parked in our campsite yeah

00:32:36.700 --> 00:32:39.849
yeah i'm just gonna say the uh The spot that

00:32:39.849 --> 00:32:41.710
you guys picked was actually really not too far

00:32:41.710 --> 00:32:43.950
off the main road. No, it's not. No. So I was

00:32:43.950 --> 00:32:45.849
kind of surprised when I put it in. Google Maps

00:32:45.849 --> 00:32:48.069
actually took me to that spot. And I was like,

00:32:48.109 --> 00:32:52.190
oh. Yep. OK. Yeah. So that was like, I was kind

00:32:52.190 --> 00:32:54.089
of surprised that it was that easy to get to.

00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:59.109
Because typically when Alex picks a spot, it's

00:32:59.109 --> 00:33:04.289
usually not that easy. For cords and calf, my

00:33:04.289 --> 00:33:06.650
goal is to keep it within a quarter mile of a

00:33:06.650 --> 00:33:10.369
main road. um well hey you know i figured especially

00:33:10.369 --> 00:33:13.769
with the the trails that we did i figured we

00:33:13.769 --> 00:33:15.470
could uh we could have something a little farther

00:33:15.470 --> 00:33:19.109
out but that was uh but because it was fine we

00:33:19.109 --> 00:33:22.150
we had so many fucking side by sides down ever

00:33:22.150 --> 00:33:25.109
that day oh yeah but yeah um that's actually

00:33:25.109 --> 00:33:27.210
the spot we use for third gen weekend because

00:33:27.210 --> 00:33:29.829
it's big and open and it's a it's a fantastic

00:33:29.829 --> 00:33:34.990
spot um yeah right So we use that for third gen

00:33:34.990 --> 00:33:37.089
weekend just cause we can fit everybody comfortably

00:33:37.089 --> 00:33:39.809
and the kids have lots of room to play and do

00:33:39.809 --> 00:33:44.869
whatever. And so it, it's just a good spot. Yeah.

00:33:46.150 --> 00:33:50.650
That was a great trip, man. Then Sunday we had

00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:53.650
rigs and coffee, which was the trunk or treat,

00:33:53.750 --> 00:33:58.029
which was way smaller than last year. Oh yeah.

00:33:58.109 --> 00:34:01.690
That was weird. Yeah. Yeah. It was a lot of fun

00:34:01.690 --> 00:34:04.460
though. jasper was old enough to walk around

00:34:04.460 --> 00:34:08.800
this time so he actually walked around we got

00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.300
him to walk around to every single car and he

00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:15.179
got a massive bag of candy and then proceeded

00:34:15.179 --> 00:34:19.239
to uh he had a cup of cider in one hand accidentally

00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.739
dumped it into that bag of candy so That was

00:34:23.739 --> 00:34:26.480
where I was the other half of the rigs was I

00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:29.460
was behind the truck talking to another guy.

00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.340
I can't remember his name, Toilet something.

00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:36.260
It was his Facebook name. But, yeah, I was talking

00:34:36.260 --> 00:34:41.019
to him. He had the black, what was that, Land

00:34:41.019 --> 00:34:42.960
Cruiser? The one that was farther out a couple

00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:47.480
slots down from mine. Okay, yeah. Yeah. He had

00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.650
that. I think he said he came from Alabama or

00:34:51.650 --> 00:34:53.610
something like that, and he had never really

00:34:53.610 --> 00:34:55.730
done anything in Michigan. I was like, oh, dude,

00:34:55.869 --> 00:34:58.750
he's in Muskegon. I said, just come on out. I

00:34:58.750 --> 00:35:01.070
said, you just get a hold of me. Come on out.

00:35:01.170 --> 00:35:02.869
I said, I could show you some local trails that

00:35:02.869 --> 00:35:06.190
are pretty easy, get your feet wet, nothing too

00:35:06.190 --> 00:35:08.789
hard that isn't going to sink your daily or anything.

00:35:09.949 --> 00:35:12.289
So we chatted while I dried off all the candy

00:35:12.289 --> 00:35:14.969
from the apple cider. Wait, is that the – oh,

00:35:15.010 --> 00:35:17.460
no, no, no. The one that – kept uh coming up

00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:19.659
and talking to me he had a fourth gen forerunner

00:35:19.659 --> 00:35:22.980
i think yeah he had the black one yeah that's

00:35:22.980 --> 00:35:27.880
what it was yeah yeah that he was a younger younger

00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.179
slim kid a little shorter from the army he was

00:35:30.179 --> 00:35:34.800
in the army too yep yeah yeah that was yeah i

00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:36.920
was messing with him Because he was like, yeah,

00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:38.559
that wasn't fun. I was like, yeah, don't you

00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:40.179
have Firewatch or something? He's like, fuck

00:35:40.179 --> 00:35:42.420
you. Yeah, he tried doing that to me, and I'm

00:35:42.420 --> 00:35:45.460
like, bro, I've been out long enough. I was going

00:35:45.460 --> 00:35:48.880
to say, it was probably after I talked to him.

00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:53.039
Because he was like, bro. He's like, I used to

00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.840
sleepwalk, dude. He's like, that shit ain't funny.

00:35:56.519 --> 00:36:00.119
He was joking. It was funny. I don't care. So

00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.840
yeah, Ricks and Coffee was fun. Then we came

00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:04.980
back, and we were supposed to watch the F1 race,

00:36:05.139 --> 00:36:08.320
but we all were just too tired, so we went to

00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.380
bed pretty much. Mark went home. I went to bed.

00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:13.920
Oh, yeah, especially after helping Zach put his

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.059
bumper on his Tundra. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Yeah,

00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.079
that was cool. We put a bumper on his Tundra.

00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.960
See, that's the cool thing about the community,

00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:25.199
too, is we went from trunk or treating, and Zach

00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:32.429
got a bumper from Becker. Yep. And he was like,

00:36:32.489 --> 00:36:34.570
yeah, probably going to put it on later. And

00:36:34.570 --> 00:36:38.050
I don't know what transpired into putting it

00:36:38.050 --> 00:36:39.750
on right there in the parking lot. We did not

00:36:39.750 --> 00:36:44.389
have the right tools. We cut the plastic bumper

00:36:44.389 --> 00:36:53.409
with a razor blade. Yeah, I saw that. I was like,

00:36:53.469 --> 00:36:56.780
um. I'm sure Zach would have paid someone to

00:36:56.780 --> 00:36:58.820
do it, but it was funnier to watch him watch

00:36:58.820 --> 00:37:02.360
everybody do it. And I walked up to Zach. I said,

00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:06.360
you're pulling a Derek Vispro right now. I said,

00:37:06.420 --> 00:37:08.659
like at Barn Beers, he just watches everybody

00:37:08.659 --> 00:37:13.260
else do it. Dude, it was fun. It was fun. Yeah,

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.659
I mean, it was cool. He got it done. It looked

00:37:15.659 --> 00:37:18.739
pretty good from the pictures I saw. I didn't

00:37:18.739 --> 00:37:21.579
really see anything too crappy. It looks good

00:37:21.579 --> 00:37:25.420
from when you're walking out of bingo. And your

00:37:25.420 --> 00:37:27.880
buddy says, hey, is that your rig? Is that your

00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.920
job? And you say yes, that's when it looks good.

00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:35.920
Yeah. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of the bumper

00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.699
itself. But from the picture, it looked good

00:37:39.699 --> 00:37:42.280
enough. Yeah. And it's about like most of the

00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.420
Tundra bumpers. It just takes up half the original

00:37:45.420 --> 00:37:48.059
bumper valance. It's not my favorite thing I've

00:37:48.059 --> 00:37:52.739
ever seen. But when you have a Tundra and you're

00:37:52.739 --> 00:37:55.969
not. brave enough to buy a good tundra so you

00:37:55.969 --> 00:37:58.829
buy a new tundra you're kind of limited options

00:37:58.829 --> 00:38:02.550
hey i think those are good tundras oh let me

00:38:02.550 --> 00:38:05.750
rephrase that i they're not the best modifiable

00:38:05.750 --> 00:38:09.389
tundra yeah there you go that's better it's not

00:38:09.389 --> 00:38:12.230
because i i do think those tundras are decent

00:38:12.230 --> 00:38:16.429
i think i would have bought one i i wish i had

00:38:16.429 --> 00:38:20.030
all this knowledge before i bought my fj because

00:38:20.030 --> 00:38:23.739
i would have bought a uh what do you call them

00:38:23.739 --> 00:38:28.619
uh extended cab yeah what do you what's the whatever

00:38:28.619 --> 00:38:31.699
they are the extended cab tundra with a short

00:38:31.699 --> 00:38:35.800
box um just because the space it's funny those

00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.639
have more space for children yeah in car seats

00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.699
than my fjs uh but what about one of those or

00:38:42.699 --> 00:38:47.869
an lx something Or I'm sorry, a GX something.

00:38:48.050 --> 00:38:51.670
Nah. 470 or something. Don't be gay. I do like

00:38:51.670 --> 00:38:55.889
those. I do like them. I mean, when they're stock,

00:38:56.110 --> 00:38:59.789
they look pretty dumpy. When they're modified,

00:39:00.010 --> 00:39:01.489
they look pretty decent. They look all right.

00:39:01.949 --> 00:39:05.989
I'll give them a solid maybe in terms of attractiveness.

00:39:06.110 --> 00:39:09.869
And the V8 is pretty cool. Oh, no. Hands down,

00:39:09.949 --> 00:39:13.250
the V8 is fantastic. You will not hear me disagree

00:39:13.250 --> 00:39:17.679
with that. v8 with a supercharger oh that would

00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.219
be yeah that'd be sick but so we did we did rigs

00:39:21.219 --> 00:39:25.880
and coffee that was fun and then what else happened

00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.519
something else happened this week oh i got my

00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:32.239
compressor from morph late yeah so i guess i

00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:36.159
should uh announce that since they did send me

00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.059
a free compressor i will give you an official

00:39:39.059 --> 00:39:43.480
review soon but i will tell you i did a zero

00:39:44.139 --> 00:39:50.179
to 35 inflation on a set of 35s, and it was under

00:39:50.179 --> 00:39:54.820
a minute. So that's pretty impressive. Yeah.

00:39:54.900 --> 00:40:01.380
Yep. Yep. It's about time Alex has gotten a quality

00:40:01.380 --> 00:40:05.510
compressor. and he doesn't have to share anymore.

00:40:05.690 --> 00:40:08.010
See, and the thing is, I had a quality compressor,

00:40:08.309 --> 00:40:11.710
and I took it out for another compressor that's

00:40:11.710 --> 00:40:14.050
the same factory as your Thor's Lightning and

00:40:14.050 --> 00:40:16.110
was all excited, thinking that it was going to

00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:20.250
be great, and then it nuked itself. See, I think,

00:40:20.349 --> 00:40:23.769
and this is me defending Thor's Lightning because

00:40:23.769 --> 00:40:25.670
they've already done better than the all -tops.

00:40:25.869 --> 00:40:29.349
I think they get a hold of these factories, and

00:40:29.349 --> 00:40:32.840
I think they do order some different parts. to

00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:36.599
spec on these because i i feel that there is

00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.679
a different quality between when i had my all

00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.679
top versus the thor's lightning i feel like there's

00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.159
different to be fair it runs better the all top

00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:48.860
that you had was the old design all top i only

00:40:48.860 --> 00:40:50.960
know that because i took it apart and stole parts

00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:55.119
off it yeah so ours was the updated all top which

00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:56.800
is the same as the thor's lightning they're the

00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.820
same compressor same parts Different paint job.

00:40:59.980 --> 00:41:03.340
I think the only difference was that the outside

00:41:03.340 --> 00:41:05.340
of the manifold was metal for the whole top,

00:41:05.380 --> 00:41:09.219
while his is plastic. Exactly. You mean the top?

00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.579
You know your square vents? Yeah, that's plastic

00:41:12.579 --> 00:41:16.440
on the Thor's Lightning. That's plastic. So it

00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:21.420
doesn't cool as good. But anyways, so the problem...

00:41:21.420 --> 00:41:24.019
What are you talking about? It's metal. No, it's

00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:27.380
not. Yeah, it is. The fins on the side? We'll

00:41:27.380 --> 00:41:30.429
look at it. The top part's metal, but the bottom

00:41:30.429 --> 00:41:32.789
part underneath that. Oh, okay. I thought you

00:41:32.789 --> 00:41:35.210
were talking about the fins right up there around

00:41:35.210 --> 00:41:36.929
that. And I'm like, yeah, those are metal. But

00:41:36.929 --> 00:41:41.929
anyways, so the problem I had with my all top

00:41:41.929 --> 00:41:44.570
is that it spit out the screws that hold the

00:41:44.570 --> 00:41:47.630
reeds in. And I've taken this thing apart and

00:41:47.630 --> 00:41:50.429
retightened these. There's no torque spec for

00:41:50.429 --> 00:41:54.170
them. They just thread them in. Same thing. Thor's

00:41:54.170 --> 00:41:56.170
lightning has, but I think from the research

00:41:56.170 --> 00:41:58.269
I've been looking at Thor's lightning puts, um,

00:41:58.469 --> 00:42:01.869
a little bit of like a thread lock in theirs,

00:42:02.010 --> 00:42:05.570
which should help keep that from happening. Uh,

00:42:05.710 --> 00:42:08.070
so that's, that's a leg up, I guess. But yeah,

00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:10.030
so that's how my, that's how my all top was,

00:42:10.090 --> 00:42:12.610
was cooking itself was it was spitting a fucking

00:42:12.610 --> 00:42:18.750
screw through it. I don't know, man. I, I, I

00:42:18.750 --> 00:42:22.769
really, uh, The Thor's Lightning has done three

00:42:22.769 --> 00:42:27.309
vehicles in one go with very little duty cycle.

00:42:27.389 --> 00:42:28.929
I've got nothing. And it's done that multiple

00:42:28.929 --> 00:42:30.690
times. I've got nothing bad to say. And I'm not.

00:42:31.090 --> 00:42:34.789
Yeah, yeah. And it's just like, I would never

00:42:34.789 --> 00:42:36.829
trust my all top to do that. Oh, dude, you're.

00:42:37.050 --> 00:42:39.250
And it's not hot. Like, Joe could sit there.

00:42:39.329 --> 00:42:41.809
Like, I had Joe touch it after everyone was done

00:42:41.809 --> 00:42:44.300
using it. Joe's like, holy shit. He's like, if

00:42:44.300 --> 00:42:46.699
you touch that layer, he's like, you would have

00:42:46.699 --> 00:42:50.739
skin. So your old all top, the one that I stole

00:42:50.739 --> 00:42:54.360
parts off of, that had no cooling whatsoever.

00:42:54.900 --> 00:42:57.159
So the way that that ended up cooking itself

00:42:57.159 --> 00:42:59.199
was that that had a little circuit board and

00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.179
that circuit board overheated and melted all

00:43:01.179 --> 00:43:05.880
the solder. Yeah. They don't build them that

00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.760
way anymore. The all top is a whole different

00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:11.039
compressor from the one that you had. Like, that

00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.800
one we had was a whole different design. Yeah,

00:43:15.500 --> 00:43:17.019
I mean, they're very similar, though. It looks.

00:43:17.019 --> 00:43:22.739
As far as, like, the designs for Morphlate, Alltop,

00:43:23.179 --> 00:43:25.320
Thor's Lightning, they're all very similar. They

00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:27.739
don't very much... Because the only similarity

00:43:27.739 --> 00:43:32.280
is the look. Once you get into the actual components

00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:38.440
of them, they're very different. I'd like to

00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.000
get... one of each and do a teardown side by

00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.800
side yeah that'd be sick and and actually and

00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.039
and take them all apart and then compare them

00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.800
i think that's really the only way that we're

00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.840
gonna go through and like actually be able to

00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:58.059
see feel measure get calipers out we got we got

00:43:58.059 --> 00:44:00.460
shane or not shane duncan with his old top i

00:44:00.460 --> 00:44:03.679
have seen i've seen all three torn down at this

00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:07.869
point And they're very different. So like the,

00:44:07.969 --> 00:44:11.769
the more flight has an actual round disc on the

00:44:11.769 --> 00:44:15.250
cooling fins. So it's completely touches the

00:44:15.250 --> 00:44:17.869
cylinder. Whereas Thor's lightning just has contact

00:44:17.869 --> 00:44:22.070
pads. All top is even worse because they have

00:44:22.070 --> 00:44:24.769
a plastic disc and then metal on the outside

00:44:24.769 --> 00:44:31.010
with contact pads. Yep. And then the reeds that

00:44:31.010 --> 00:44:34.409
Alltop uses are a different reed than from what

00:44:34.409 --> 00:44:37.789
Morphlet uses, but the same reed that Thor's

00:44:37.789 --> 00:44:39.849
Lightning uses, but the screws are different

00:44:39.849 --> 00:44:43.289
because Thor's Lightning uses like a thread lock,

00:44:43.369 --> 00:44:47.519
some kind of goop to hold those in. Yeah, I will

00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.539
say the hoses are definitely different. My hose

00:44:50.539 --> 00:44:53.820
and connection setup is different and a lot better

00:44:53.820 --> 00:44:56.760
quality than the Alltop. Yeah, I agree with that.

00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.980
Because I did have, on the Alltop, I did have

00:45:00.980 --> 00:45:05.039
the quote -unquote updated hose system for them.

00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.980
That was no better. That was just, you could

00:45:08.980 --> 00:45:11.119
feel it. It felt junky. For the most part, I

00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.800
think that the factory hose kits that come with

00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:18.360
those things are fucking dookie. The one thing

00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:20.579
I like about the Morphlate, because if you remember

00:45:20.579 --> 00:45:23.800
when I modified my all -top, it was to put a

00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:26.440
metal hose on so that it could cool before it

00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:27.860
went to the rubber hose because I didn't want

00:45:27.860 --> 00:45:32.500
to overheat that rubber hose. The Morphlate already

00:45:32.500 --> 00:45:35.389
has that built in for the same reason. So it

00:45:35.389 --> 00:45:37.510
gives the air time to cool down before it gets

00:45:37.510 --> 00:45:41.050
to the softer line. Yeah. I would have ordered

00:45:41.050 --> 00:45:43.769
the Morphlate if it would have came in time,

00:45:43.849 --> 00:45:47.570
but I needed it for that big trip. Thor's Lightning

00:45:47.570 --> 00:45:51.389
was honestly the only one that I could get one

00:45:51.389 --> 00:45:53.130
day shipped. And it's treated you good. So that's

00:45:53.130 --> 00:45:55.570
what I went with. And it's treated me good. This

00:45:55.570 --> 00:45:58.329
is now my second summer with it, and it's done

00:45:58.329 --> 00:46:01.449
well. So, I mean, nobody wants to buy a compressor

00:46:01.449 --> 00:46:06.150
every year. I mean. We all had differing luck

00:46:06.150 --> 00:46:09.389
with, I mean, except for Alltop. We all had pretty

00:46:09.389 --> 00:46:13.230
differing luck with compressors. Mine from Harbor

00:46:13.230 --> 00:46:15.010
Freight. People say those Harbor Freight compressors

00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:17.690
last forever. People still have them. They must

00:46:17.690 --> 00:46:19.210
have got an old model because I went through

00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:21.610
three of them in three weeks. Our Bauer compressors,

00:46:21.630 --> 00:46:24.389
they're slow, but those things are fucking solid.

00:46:25.650 --> 00:46:30.190
Yeah. Right. So it just depends, I guess. I mean,

00:46:30.230 --> 00:46:33.610
quality control is the biggest thing. Your quality

00:46:33.610 --> 00:46:35.289
control. Some people that have all tops swear

00:46:35.289 --> 00:46:39.010
by all tops. But the quality control is so varied

00:46:39.010 --> 00:46:40.969
with all tops that it makes. I mean, it's the

00:46:40.969 --> 00:46:43.670
same thing with every. I hate to say it. I mean,

00:46:43.690 --> 00:46:46.590
I do think all top is a decent budget thing to

00:46:46.590 --> 00:46:49.989
get into for certain products. Not recovery,

00:46:50.230 --> 00:46:53.489
but certain products. Like we have a pop out

00:46:53.489 --> 00:46:56.269
canopy by all top. I think it's a good, decent

00:46:56.269 --> 00:46:59.579
thing. to start into but like most things with

00:46:59.579 --> 00:47:02.760
quality control and the cheaper prices you are

00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:04.639
rolling the dice every time you buy something

00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.500
like that uh with you getting maybe one of the

00:47:07.500 --> 00:47:09.500
lower quality pieces and then getting fucked

00:47:09.500 --> 00:47:12.619
and the only compressor brand that i know of

00:47:12.619 --> 00:47:16.219
that has never had a return is more flight because

00:47:16.219 --> 00:47:19.860
their quality control is so good dog get out

00:47:19.860 --> 00:47:25.559
of here um So, yeah, you got your Morphlate in.

00:47:25.699 --> 00:47:31.039
That's awesome. I think at one point, you know,

00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.599
if I ever have to get another one, I'll go with

00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:36.800
Morphlate and then do the four -tire system because

00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.079
that's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm going to do four

00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.579
tires kind of. It's going to be onboard four

00:47:42.579 --> 00:47:45.730
-tire system. That way I don't have to wrap up

00:47:45.730 --> 00:47:48.849
the whole goddamn hose every time I use it. It's

00:47:48.849 --> 00:47:51.650
like disconnect, disconnect a two foot long hose

00:47:51.650 --> 00:47:54.849
at each tire and put that, you know, eight feet

00:47:54.849 --> 00:47:58.929
of hose away. Yeah. I do like having the hose

00:47:58.929 --> 00:48:01.750
where it's at. I think that in the future I'll

00:48:01.750 --> 00:48:05.130
run an Anderson into the cab of my truck. So

00:48:05.130 --> 00:48:09.150
I don't have to put the. put the compressor on

00:48:09.150 --> 00:48:11.769
the ground, move it outside of the truck back

00:48:11.769 --> 00:48:14.469
and forth, just plug it right in and then go.

00:48:14.909 --> 00:48:16.889
Where I have it right now behind the seats, not

00:48:16.889 --> 00:48:19.489
where I would use it because it would get hot

00:48:19.489 --> 00:48:21.769
and melt some things, but I'd throw it where

00:48:21.769 --> 00:48:25.889
my feet go. And it would be a perfectly good

00:48:25.889 --> 00:48:27.869
place to just throw a little Anderson connector

00:48:27.869 --> 00:48:29.710
right there somewhere. Right under your seat

00:48:29.710 --> 00:48:34.010
so you just pop it out. Yeah. I do love my Anderson

00:48:34.010 --> 00:48:37.329
connector that's sitting out of my... how would

00:48:37.329 --> 00:48:39.130
you say front plastic of the truck so i don't

00:48:39.130 --> 00:48:41.230
have to pop the hood every time that's really

00:48:41.230 --> 00:48:44.170
nice but it would be even nicer to have one inside

00:48:44.170 --> 00:48:46.610
the vehicle and i could also use that to jump

00:48:46.610 --> 00:48:50.329
it too yeah wouldn't have to i could sit in my

00:48:50.329 --> 00:48:53.250
truck and jump it instead of having to sit sit

00:48:53.250 --> 00:48:57.150
outside so i'm uh yeah i need to get an anderson

00:48:57.150 --> 00:49:02.119
connector to pop out of my grill um That way

00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.119
I can just plug my compressor in up there and

00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.239
jump the truck right there. That way I don't

00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.260
have to dig down to that battery that's under

00:49:09.260 --> 00:49:11.619
all of my stuff in the back of the car every

00:49:11.619 --> 00:49:16.440
time I have to do something. Yeah. Yeah, it is

00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:18.800
nice. It is really nice. I've jumped my truck

00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.380
a few times on that one because I thought that

00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:24.119
the issue is my truck needed to jump, not that

00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:26.780
it was the negative terminal that loosened. So,

00:49:26.820 --> 00:49:31.289
of course, you know. Me doing that, I'm like,

00:49:31.329 --> 00:49:34.289
huh. I'm getting power there. I got power straight

00:49:34.289 --> 00:49:37.590
from the jump, not from the back. And then as

00:49:37.590 --> 00:49:41.949
I drove, it wiggled my negative back. Now that's

00:49:41.949 --> 00:49:45.969
all fixed up. I also got the new Morphlate tire.

00:49:47.949 --> 00:49:51.130
What would you call that? Chuck. Yeah. Air Chuck.

00:49:51.210 --> 00:49:54.289
I got the Air Chuck, and it has full engagement

00:49:54.289 --> 00:49:57.690
on my Apex valve, and that might be part of why

00:49:57.690 --> 00:50:00.730
it airs up so fast. Because it's impressive,

00:50:01.070 --> 00:50:04.130
dude. Compared to, like, those little, little

00:50:04.130 --> 00:50:07.289
clippy ones from, like, All Top or Rhino USA.

00:50:08.869 --> 00:50:12.690
The basic one. They get, like, 30 % engagement.

00:50:12.869 --> 00:50:17.050
This gets closer to 100 % engagement. It's pretty

00:50:17.050 --> 00:50:22.690
impressive. Yeah. Yeah, I know in the future

00:50:22.690 --> 00:50:26.690
Alex and I and probably Duncan are going to do

00:50:26.690 --> 00:50:31.139
a test. and and uh air up his tires evenly with

00:50:31.139 --> 00:50:33.860
the same we're going to do the same tires with

00:50:33.860 --> 00:50:36.659
the same apex and then use this just our different

00:50:36.659 --> 00:50:39.260
compressors and see how fast each one does and

00:50:39.260 --> 00:50:43.400
accurate just as a test yeah yeah i don't know

00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.800
my gauge as far as that goes i don't know how

00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.380
accurate that is well let's i think it's a i

00:50:48.380 --> 00:50:50.420
think we talked about that that it was a couple

00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:53.000
that's why that's you're running the digital

00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:56.039
one right yeah yep i've discovered the digital

00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:58.679
ones at least usually five off compared to the

00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.860
analog and that's why i want to test it um just

00:51:02.860 --> 00:51:05.519
because we know you know we have one that we

00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:08.760
know is accurate so we can test the rest to figure

00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:11.659
out how you know how close they actually are

00:51:11.659 --> 00:51:16.159
yeah yeah yeah we should bring an analog one

00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.880
though too just to check i think duncan's is

00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.539
duncan's is analog and we could use my rhino

00:51:21.539 --> 00:51:26.579
usa one too i also got mine too but well they

00:51:26.579 --> 00:51:30.239
use them all to get neck i do know first i do

00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:35.360
know that my rhino usa1 and mark's analog rhino

00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.639
usa1 are going to be two to three degrees off

00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:42.039
unless you're going to 40 psi because uh on an

00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.380
analog gauge the only um pressure that's 100

00:51:45.380 --> 00:51:48.500
accurate is the one at the very top of the gauge

00:51:48.500 --> 00:51:51.699
everything everything before or after that is

00:51:51.699 --> 00:51:55.400
a little bit off So if you want an analog gauge,

00:51:55.420 --> 00:51:57.739
which in my opinion, I prefer analog gauges,

00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.199
you always want your finish PSI to be near the

00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:06.739
top. So like my all top, I think it's a 60 PSI

00:52:06.739 --> 00:52:09.840
gauge, which puts 40 at the very top. I air up

00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:13.119
to 35, so that's pretty close to accurate. I

00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.739
used to air up to 40, so it was perfect, but

00:52:15.739 --> 00:52:21.840
I don't do that anymore. Yeah. From... I'm probably

00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.659
going to stay at 35 because there is a noticeable

00:52:24.659 --> 00:52:29.320
difference from 35 to 40. Big time. So I'm going

00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.460
to probably stay at 35 because my ride was a

00:52:31.460 --> 00:52:34.400
lot smoother. And I think it's odd, but I think

00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:36.659
if my tires are cold and my truck sits for a

00:52:36.659 --> 00:52:39.039
little bit, when I start driving on the road,

00:52:39.139 --> 00:52:41.659
you can tell it feels a lot clunkier, a lot shakier

00:52:41.659 --> 00:52:45.420
at first. And then once the tires warm up, everything

00:52:45.420 --> 00:52:47.159
smooths out because I was like, damn, what the

00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.099
fuck's going on in my truck? I'll tell you. And

00:52:49.099 --> 00:52:51.360
then as I drove for a few minutes, it was like,

00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.179
oh, okay, maybe the tires just need to warm up.

00:52:53.179 --> 00:52:55.659
Going from load range E's to these load range

00:52:55.659 --> 00:52:59.860
C's, oh, my God, is my life better. Like, my

00:52:59.860 --> 00:53:07.699
truck is so smooth now. So, yeah. Oh, in other

00:53:07.699 --> 00:53:10.340
news, since he got his Morphlate, I'm getting

00:53:10.340 --> 00:53:13.260
my next shipment of Bison stuff. That's going

00:53:13.260 --> 00:53:15.380
to be interesting. Yeah, finally. Well, so on

00:53:15.380 --> 00:53:17.619
one of the products that I'm pretty sure I'm

00:53:17.619 --> 00:53:21.820
getting, which is the propane tank holder, they

00:53:21.820 --> 00:53:25.280
had most of that in. One of the products they

00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.360
got shipped was a bad shipment, and they had

00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.420
bad quality control. Not quality control, but

00:53:30.420 --> 00:53:35.199
what it got there was damaged. So they sent that

00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:36.880
back, and they didn't feel comfortable sending

00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:40.519
me that setup. So we were like, we're just going

00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:43.489
to wait until... We get everything that we're

00:53:43.489 --> 00:53:45.550
happy with so that we can send it out to you.

00:53:45.630 --> 00:53:50.269
I got three packages coming from Poland. Because

00:53:50.269 --> 00:53:52.750
I think that's where they're based out of. Where

00:53:52.750 --> 00:53:57.250
I get most of my stuff is out of Poland. That's

00:53:57.250 --> 00:53:59.409
pretty cool. I'm excited for that. I should be

00:53:59.409 --> 00:54:02.670
here within the next couple weeks. I would say

00:54:02.670 --> 00:54:04.969
week and a half because their shipping is pretty

00:54:04.969 --> 00:54:08.070
damn quick for being overseas. The other thing

00:54:08.070 --> 00:54:10.449
that happened is I got featured on 23 zeros,

00:54:10.489 --> 00:54:19.429
Instagram and Facebook and story famous. So hopefully

00:54:19.429 --> 00:54:21.929
that brings people to botch. Yeah. Oh, I know

00:54:21.929 --> 00:54:24.250
it was your personal. It was, but the thing is

00:54:24.250 --> 00:54:26.349
that we have had a lot of people start, like

00:54:26.349 --> 00:54:28.329
I've had people message me. Oh, your podcast

00:54:28.329 --> 00:54:31.909
is cool. Um, yeah. And then I happened, there

00:54:31.909 --> 00:54:35.230
was one thing that liked or one group that liked

00:54:35.230 --> 00:54:38.619
it. Uh, Let me pull this up so I make sure I

00:54:38.619 --> 00:54:41.139
get their name right. Because I'm going to give

00:54:41.139 --> 00:54:42.860
them a shout out, even though they haven't responded

00:54:42.860 --> 00:54:49.199
to me. Remote Trails Radio. They have a Overland

00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:55.059
-based podcast out of Washington. That's what

00:54:55.059 --> 00:54:57.800
you said earlier. They seem pretty cool. Oh,

00:54:57.840 --> 00:54:59.300
hey, they messaged me. They said, sweet, they'll

00:54:59.300 --> 00:55:05.699
check it out. So they started about the same

00:55:05.699 --> 00:55:08.300
time we did. They've got 30 some episodes out.

00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:11.320
They're not quite as, I don't want to say they're

00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.559
not as on it as us, but they're not quite, they

00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.840
don't have as many followers or anything, but

00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:17.659
they deserve it. I listened to some of their

00:55:17.659 --> 00:55:20.320
stuff. They seem pretty cool. I'm going to add

00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.639
them to my list of podcasts to listen to. So

00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:27.699
that means something. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't been.

00:55:28.860 --> 00:55:31.239
I've been listening to a ton of podcasts lately.

00:55:31.460 --> 00:55:36.179
A lot of YouTube videos. A lot of those. Listening

00:55:36.179 --> 00:55:40.139
to those more. So when we did... I've been too

00:55:40.139 --> 00:55:44.380
busy. We did a trip back in... I think it might

00:55:44.380 --> 00:55:46.920
have been when we went to... Yeah, back in June

00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:49.539
when we went to Leatherwood. I got behind on

00:55:49.539 --> 00:55:51.679
podcasts. Like, I have a lot of podcasts I listen

00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:54.619
to every day. I got behind on them, and for the

00:55:54.619 --> 00:55:57.460
first time yesterday, I ran out of new episodes

00:55:57.460 --> 00:56:02.280
to listen to. Yeah. Yeah, in your job, you can

00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.159
kind of just put them in and go, too, which is

00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:06.719
nice. That's all I do. All day I've got my Zoom

00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:08.719
playing with my headphones ran through my hoodie.

00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.639
Yeah. Like, that's just all day. That's how I

00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:17.199
do it. Yeah. Yeah, I think I had a few that I

00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:20.960
listened to. I mostly listen to conspiracy stuff,

00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:25.099
though. I mean, I listen to the Overland stuff,

00:56:25.300 --> 00:56:28.239
but I listen to episodes that interest me. Not

00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:31.900
kind of everyone that comes out. And then most

00:56:31.900 --> 00:56:35.860
of it's conspiracy. Not conspiracy as much, but

00:56:35.860 --> 00:56:38.659
like cryptid. I guess you can put those in the

00:56:38.659 --> 00:56:40.920
same branch because some people think that cryptids

00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:44.199
are conspiracy. I definitely listen to Millennial

00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:51.070
Media Offensive and what's the other one? uh

00:56:51.070 --> 00:56:57.010
the two old guys uh no agenda show two bears

00:56:57.010 --> 00:57:00.090
no no agenda show so i definitely listen to those

00:57:00.090 --> 00:57:03.150
two that's about six hours of my week uh actually

00:57:03.150 --> 00:57:05.590
nine hours of my week because millennial media

00:57:05.590 --> 00:57:09.530
offensive has one three -hour show uh no agenda

00:57:09.530 --> 00:57:14.289
has two three -hour shows a week so that's a

00:57:14.289 --> 00:57:18.579
good majority of my podcast listening So, anything

00:57:18.579 --> 00:57:21.420
upcoming? Events? Anything that we need to mention?

00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.539
Well, we... I was going to say, I had my birthday

00:57:24.539 --> 00:57:27.179
yesterday. Mark, you didn't even... I talked

00:57:27.179 --> 00:57:29.940
to you, and I didn't tell you happy... God...

00:57:29.940 --> 00:57:33.500
Happy birthday, Mark. I didn't even know. Happy

00:57:33.500 --> 00:57:35.320
birthday, Mark. I didn't even know. How did I

00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.320
forget my best friend's birthday? And he didn't

00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.739
even say anything about it. I was late. Yeah,

00:57:41.780 --> 00:57:43.579
whatever. I was just late tomorrow. You fucking

00:57:43.579 --> 00:57:51.300
prick. Yeah, turn 28. Fucking old man. Man, only

00:57:51.300 --> 00:57:57.719
28? Man, you youngins. I'm turning 31 in January,

00:57:57.900 --> 00:58:00.440
dude. What am I doing? I just turned 29, Kaelin.

00:58:00.460 --> 00:58:04.360
Just turned 30. That scares me. Having a midlife

00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.039
crisis over here. What am I doing with my life?

00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:11.699
A quarter -life crisis. No midlife. I never thought

00:58:11.699 --> 00:58:14.760
I was going to make it to 30, let alone 25. So

00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:18.059
the fact that I'm 30 now. But we do have. I can't

00:58:18.059 --> 00:58:20.440
imagine living after 60, dude. That's crazy.

00:58:20.460 --> 00:58:24.599
We do have Friendsgiving coming up down in Rocker,

00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:29.019
Missouri. Yeah. Yeah. That's an unfortunate date,

00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.099
too. I wish that would have been a different

00:58:31.099 --> 00:58:33.730
date. I would have been able to go. My son's

00:58:33.730 --> 00:58:36.829
birthday is the 18th, and Friendsgiving is, like,

00:58:36.849 --> 00:58:39.510
what, the 21st or 2nd? 21st, yeah. 21st and 2nd.

00:58:39.510 --> 00:58:43.929
21st, 2nd, yeah. It's like, there's no way that

00:58:43.929 --> 00:58:46.489
I could. It's already a couple hundred. Because

00:58:46.489 --> 00:58:49.050
last year, we didn't have a party. We were like,

00:58:49.170 --> 00:58:50.909
he's too young. Like, he ain't going to remember

00:58:50.909 --> 00:58:53.869
nothing. This year, it's like, okay, he might

00:58:53.869 --> 00:58:57.530
remember a little bit. Maybe we should throw

00:58:57.530 --> 00:58:59.409
him a party. Because a bunch of people were upset

00:58:59.409 --> 00:59:01.469
with us. Because they were like, why didn't you

00:59:01.469 --> 00:59:03.650
throw him a big first birthday? And we're like,

00:59:03.750 --> 00:59:06.469
because we don't see the point in spending hundreds

00:59:06.469 --> 00:59:09.070
of dollars on something he'll never remember.

00:59:09.690 --> 00:59:12.170
Because we went out camping instead. Mark, yesterday

00:59:12.170 --> 00:59:15.610
was your birthday? Yeah. So you and Jax have

00:59:15.610 --> 00:59:17.289
a birthday that's within a day of each other.

00:59:17.369 --> 00:59:19.369
I'll remember that for the rest of my life. Because

00:59:19.369 --> 00:59:23.110
Jax's birthday was Monday. Oh, I didn't know

00:59:23.110 --> 00:59:28.420
that. Actually, shit. Yeah, yesterday's my dad's

00:59:28.420 --> 00:59:33.239
birthday. Whoops. So my three -year -old nephew

00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:35.940
is now my four -year -old nephew, and he's exactly

00:59:35.940 --> 00:59:41.760
the same person, just a year older. Yeah, I can't

00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:46.199
wait for that, because he turns two. Dude, his

00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:50.099
dad got him this adventure something. It's like

00:59:50.099 --> 00:59:53.519
a race car track thing. It's pirate -themed.

00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:57.110
I opened this thing up. And I'm like, God, there's

00:59:57.110 --> 00:59:59.130
a lot of little parts to this. And then I opened

00:59:59.130 --> 01:00:01.429
the instructions and they just kept unfolding.

01:00:02.789 --> 01:00:06.170
There was like 50 some steps. It took me almost

01:00:06.170 --> 01:00:08.429
two and a half hours to get this damn thing put

01:00:08.429 --> 01:00:12.750
together. Yeah, that's a punishment, man. Whoever

01:00:12.750 --> 01:00:15.289
does that. And I was like. We're going to get

01:00:15.289 --> 01:00:17.769
our kid a drum set. We know that's a bad idea,

01:00:17.849 --> 01:00:21.409
but he loves drumming on stuff. I texted his

01:00:21.409 --> 01:00:23.710
dad, and I'm like, dude, I fucking hate you.

01:00:23.750 --> 01:00:29.050
This is ridiculous. Yeah, whoever got us crayons

01:00:29.050 --> 01:00:32.489
on Valentine's Day, fuck you. I don't know who

01:00:32.489 --> 01:00:37.130
gave us a Crayola pack, but we have a beige loveseat,

01:00:37.210 --> 01:00:40.550
and all of a sudden, my kid went behind it and

01:00:40.550 --> 01:00:43.150
squatted. Usually, he'll go and squat somewhere

01:00:43.150 --> 01:00:46.300
high. To go poop. So I was like, are you pooping?

01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:49.480
He goes, yeah. I said, did you poop or did you

01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:53.800
fart? And he goes, I poop. I said, okay. So I

01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:55.280
was waiting for him, waiting for him. Like, man,

01:00:55.300 --> 01:00:56.920
you're being real quiet over there. You ain't

01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:59.239
pooping that long. So I get up and look. He's

01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.980
got purple crayon all over that beige couch.

01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.940
I'm like, you son of a bitch. So I go and throw

01:01:05.940 --> 01:01:08.659
that away. Somehow he finds another one the day

01:01:08.659 --> 01:01:12.679
later. Like, kids don't put their shit back in

01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.420
the packs. so he must have been in his toy box

01:01:15.420 --> 01:01:18.039
somewhere and he just like again all over that

01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:20.559
side of the couch i'm like and then then i saw

01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.159
it like i was going to the bathroom and i look

01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.679
on the wall opposite to the bathroom fucking

01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:29.760
i just painted this wall like two weeks ago like

01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.179
when i had to step out of that podcast or you

01:01:32.179 --> 01:01:35.219
know flake out of the podcast just seeing it

01:01:35.219 --> 01:01:37.179
like squiggles all over the wall and i'm like

01:01:37.179 --> 01:01:40.670
i just Painted this. Just painted this. You know

01:01:40.670 --> 01:01:42.690
what? I wonder you painting it made him think

01:01:42.690 --> 01:01:45.809
it was okay to draw on stuff. Dude. I don't know.

01:01:45.869 --> 01:01:49.369
I know that if it was my house, the first five

01:01:49.369 --> 01:01:51.690
feet of every wall would be like chalkboard.

01:01:52.449 --> 01:01:56.630
I think that would be cool to have chalkboard

01:01:56.630 --> 01:01:59.030
paint all the way up, and he could just do his

01:01:59.030 --> 01:02:01.070
thing, color all the way around the walls. The

01:02:01.070 --> 01:02:04.570
girl that my mom adopted, she's grown up and

01:02:04.570 --> 01:02:06.730
moved on. Well, she's not grown up, but she's

01:02:06.730 --> 01:02:10.969
gone. She's over 18. But her room was chalkboard

01:02:10.969 --> 01:02:14.429
paint all the way to the ceiling. And the whole

01:02:14.429 --> 01:02:16.849
wall was just doodle board. I mean, it was really

01:02:16.849 --> 01:02:19.489
cool. That's cool. And that's a good way for

01:02:19.489 --> 01:02:21.809
your kid to express themselves. And all her friends

01:02:21.809 --> 01:02:23.849
would come and sign it and write her little notes

01:02:23.849 --> 01:02:28.130
and stuff. It was really cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

01:02:28.150 --> 01:02:31.250
I think that's good. And it eliminates a stressor.

01:02:31.579 --> 01:02:35.599
Because as someone else that has kids, you now

01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:38.280
know that there are a lot of stressors between

01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.300
them getting themselves hurt, turning the stove

01:02:41.300 --> 01:02:43.840
on, dumping all the trash. Shitting on the carpet.

01:02:44.380 --> 01:02:48.559
Yeah, accidentally hitting the TV with a stick

01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:51.780
because he's playing drums. There's a lot of

01:02:51.780 --> 01:02:54.239
things. So eliminating one of them by just letting

01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:57.599
him go on the walls and be himself and have fun.

01:02:58.539 --> 01:03:01.139
If we ever get a house, which in this market,

01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:03.880
I have no fucking clue if we'll ever get a house.

01:03:03.980 --> 01:03:06.039
Well, when the podcast takes off and we're now

01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:13.340
rich. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I'm actually sponsored

01:03:13.340 --> 01:03:17.380
by someone. Nah, you can do it. The listeners

01:03:17.380 --> 01:03:21.980
love us. They'll donate to us. By the way, donations

01:03:21.980 --> 01:03:25.949
are open. Just send us some boosts. Yeah. Yeah.

01:03:26.010 --> 01:03:29.670
If each listener donated a dollar, I would have

01:03:29.670 --> 01:03:35.170
$50 that I could spend on a down payment on a

01:03:35.170 --> 01:03:38.710
kid's podcast. You would have 50 divided by three.

01:03:39.849 --> 01:03:44.570
All right. I'd have $18 for a down payment on

01:03:44.570 --> 01:03:47.489
a dollhouse. Hell yeah, dude. And with afterpay,

01:03:47.530 --> 01:03:51.800
that's actually possible. Yeah, and with APR,

01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:55.280
I'd be paying on that for a long -ass time. No.

01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:01.219
Afterpay doesn't have APR. No. It's only four

01:04:01.219 --> 01:04:05.440
payments. I'm going to have to split that into

01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:11.860
six to 20 right now. You'd have $18 that gets

01:04:11.860 --> 01:04:13.980
you a step towards having your four payments

01:04:13.980 --> 01:04:17.039
towards a nice tat. You could live in a tent

01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:19.460
down by, I mean, it's not a van, but a tent down

01:04:19.460 --> 01:04:22.840
by the river. Down by the river. Yeah. I mean,

01:04:22.900 --> 01:04:26.059
I thought about going south for the winter. Like,

01:04:26.059 --> 01:04:29.360
I've been really fighting this midlife crisis

01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:32.699
nomad scenario where I just want to take the

01:04:32.699 --> 01:04:35.900
family pack up and go. Dude. And I know in my

01:04:35.900 --> 01:04:38.179
head, like, financially, I can't. Like, there's

01:04:38.179 --> 01:04:40.739
no way we'd be able to. But, like, I'm like,

01:04:40.820 --> 01:04:43.079
something's going to break. We're going to catch

01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.929
a break. something you know karma's gonna come

01:04:45.929 --> 01:04:49.110
back and we're gonna hit something we're gonna

01:04:49.110 --> 01:04:51.889
catch our stride i'm 30 this usually happens

01:04:51.889 --> 01:04:55.449
to people in their 30s to 40s like i'm like something's

01:04:55.449 --> 01:04:58.590
gonna happen i'm gonna find i'm gonna find that

01:04:58.590 --> 01:05:01.050
dream job that i've always been looking for and

01:05:01.050 --> 01:05:03.550
i keep thinking that i'm like trying to manifest

01:05:03.550 --> 01:05:06.670
it instead of bad things i'm like it's gonna

01:05:06.670 --> 01:05:11.809
happen you know maybe benji at midwest uh uh

01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:14.400
At Midwest over there. Midwest Adventure Outfitters.

01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:18.960
Yeah. No, I just meant Benji over there at Midwest.

01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:24.199
I know Mayo, but maybe he'll need a sales team

01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:27.579
or something, and he'll need someone over there,

01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:29.539
and I could go over there and work on sales,

01:05:29.780 --> 01:05:32.920
and we could move to Missouri. Because we don't

01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:34.659
have anywhere that we need to be. I don't want

01:05:34.659 --> 01:05:37.300
to move south, but I want to move west. I'm like,

01:05:37.340 --> 01:05:41.679
fuck it. Let's get up and go. someday it'll catch

01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:44.400
someday like i do want to move but at the same

01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:48.280
time i like it here you know like it's it's hard

01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:50.960
because i do want to just move and not have ties

01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:53.820
anywhere and just do my own thing but at the

01:05:53.820 --> 01:05:56.380
same time it's kind of nice like tomorrow i gotta

01:05:56.380 --> 01:05:58.579
take kayla into an appointment and i just called

01:05:58.579 --> 01:06:01.559
my stepmom was like hey i don't know that i'll

01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.380
be back at 3 15 to get the kid off the bus could

01:06:04.380 --> 01:06:06.860
you get him and like they're close so they'll

01:06:06.860 --> 01:06:09.969
they can just do it you know what i mean Yeah.

01:06:09.969 --> 01:06:13.369
I think I've always had that. And Sina's family

01:06:13.369 --> 01:06:16.050
has been really nice to me about this. But I've

01:06:16.050 --> 01:06:18.530
always had that loner mentality where I'm like,

01:06:18.590 --> 01:06:22.130
I have to do this myself. Nobody's going to do

01:06:22.130 --> 01:06:25.750
it for me. I have to do it myself. And her family's

01:06:25.750 --> 01:06:28.389
been sometimes aggressive at times to be like,

01:06:28.469 --> 01:06:30.170
hey, you know what? You don't have to put all

01:06:30.170 --> 01:06:32.269
this on there. If you need help, if you need

01:06:32.269 --> 01:06:35.110
them to get watched, just let me know. But I

01:06:35.110 --> 01:06:37.570
think with that mentality, it does work pretty

01:06:37.570 --> 01:06:38.889
well when we're out in the middle of nowhere.

01:06:39.030 --> 01:06:43.230
I'm already in that state. I never try to rely

01:06:43.230 --> 01:06:47.269
on anyone. So I think it would be really nice.

01:06:47.309 --> 01:06:50.329
I think it would be nice to get out and start

01:06:50.329 --> 01:06:54.010
our own traditions, not be part of everyone else's,

01:06:54.030 --> 01:06:57.449
if that makes sense. Like do our own Christmas

01:06:57.449 --> 01:07:01.409
traditions and not be dragged over to every single

01:07:01.409 --> 01:07:05.800
house. I have a rule. Where we will only go to

01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:10.280
a max of two houses on Christmas Day. And those

01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:14.320
two houses are mine and one other one. Like,

01:07:14.340 --> 01:07:18.539
we don't... Yeah. We typically do three, and

01:07:18.539 --> 01:07:20.940
that's a bit much. I mean, we still do, like...

01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:23.940
Uh, sometimes Christmas Eve we'll do stuff with

01:07:23.940 --> 01:07:27.519
my mom. Um, luckily Kaylin, I mean, not luckily,

01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:29.619
I wish she could talk to that other half of her

01:07:29.619 --> 01:07:32.159
family, but she doesn't talk to half her family.

01:07:32.179 --> 01:07:34.559
So it makes holidays nice. Cause we just have

01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:36.619
her dad come over on Christmas day and spend

01:07:36.619 --> 01:07:42.489
some time with us. Um, but you know, it's. holidays

01:07:42.489 --> 01:07:44.630
are hard man and we're getting into that season

01:07:44.630 --> 01:07:47.130
where it's going to be it's hard to go wheeling

01:07:47.130 --> 01:07:49.869
because every single weekend is some fucking

01:07:49.869 --> 01:07:53.889
holiday yeah yeah something yeah we'll definitely

01:07:53.889 --> 01:07:55.769
need to get out and do snow wheeling i want to

01:07:55.769 --> 01:07:59.989
get some snow wheeling videos i have to and this

01:07:59.989 --> 01:08:02.429
is a struggle with trying trying to launch something

01:08:02.429 --> 01:08:08.630
uh like botches like um hoa like anything that

01:08:08.630 --> 01:08:10.909
we're actually like trying to do it's hard to

01:08:10.909 --> 01:08:13.329
do that as a side gig when you don't have the

01:08:13.329 --> 01:08:16.569
time to get out and catch content speaking of

01:08:16.569 --> 01:08:18.989
time because if you don't have what are you what

01:08:18.989 --> 01:08:21.630
are you doing on sunday oh we're not at time

01:08:21.630 --> 01:08:23.409
man we haven't recorded in a while i don't mind

01:08:23.409 --> 01:08:30.029
going over okay um sunday i don't think i have

01:08:30.029 --> 01:08:32.489
anything i'll look after the episode i want to

01:08:32.489 --> 01:08:34.729
get out and do some local wheeling on sunday

01:08:34.729 --> 01:08:38.460
um I have a full tank of gas, so I'm good. I'm

01:08:38.460 --> 01:08:40.939
ready. I mean, we're not going to be, like, going

01:08:40.939 --> 01:08:43.220
to Everett or anything. It's just going to be

01:08:43.220 --> 01:08:45.619
bumming around New Ago County, White Cloud area.

01:08:46.100 --> 01:08:51.380
Yep. Yeah, I'm down. Are we going to have another

01:08:51.380 --> 01:08:54.739
Cords and Calf, right? Not until, like, January.

01:08:56.939 --> 01:08:59.239
Oh. Yeah, Corey's going to be bummed because

01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:02.220
he was like, oh, get November's Cords and Calf.

01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:03.960
Like, I don't think we're doing November's Cords

01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:07.869
and Calf. November, we're really busy in November.

01:09:08.010 --> 01:09:10.289
We've got Thanksgiving in November. We've got

01:09:10.289 --> 01:09:11.829
Friendsgiving where we're going to Missouri.

01:09:12.289 --> 01:09:17.170
We've got... I've held up pushing back so many

01:09:17.170 --> 01:09:19.430
plans for the last couple weeks. I need to get

01:09:19.430 --> 01:09:23.109
plans done before winter hits. So, this next

01:09:23.109 --> 01:09:25.029
two weekends, I'm kind of busy. Wait, the next

01:09:25.029 --> 01:09:26.750
two weekends? I thought it was just this coming

01:09:26.750 --> 01:09:31.010
weekend. I got something going on in Ann Arbor

01:09:31.010 --> 01:09:33.010
next Sunday. Oh, next Sunday? That's not a big

01:09:33.010 --> 01:09:35.310
deal. I just need you Friday and Saturday because

01:09:35.310 --> 01:09:39.609
I got maintenance to do. And that skid plate

01:09:39.609 --> 01:09:43.189
at 150 pounds is a bitch and a half to drop off

01:09:43.189 --> 01:09:47.630
the truck alone. Yeah. You mean both of the oil

01:09:47.630 --> 01:09:49.930
chains? My truck just chimed at me for oil. I

01:09:49.930 --> 01:09:52.409
haven't done one since before we went to Leatherwood.

01:09:52.590 --> 01:09:56.710
Like, I'm in desperate need. Yeah, you're in

01:09:56.710 --> 01:10:00.090
desperate need. I just did mine when we did our

01:10:00.090 --> 01:10:02.989
brakes. We need to drain diffs and refill diffs,

01:10:02.989 --> 01:10:06.630
so that needs to happen. Yeah, we've pushed that

01:10:06.630 --> 01:10:09.470
off pretty bad. Yeah, bring me along on that

01:10:09.470 --> 01:10:12.590
one. I also need to change that axle seal on

01:10:12.590 --> 01:10:17.899
the driver's side front. oh yeah one that's leaking

01:10:17.899 --> 01:10:21.600
i do need to give a shout out to uh brian brian

01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:25.920
our sweet thank you very much uh i owe you a

01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:29.720
couple dry tuggies uh he gave me a couple of

01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:33.840
those parts that we had had at the meet he gave

01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:39.409
me i think there were two calipers uh he gave

01:10:39.409 --> 01:10:43.689
me some bear wheel bearings and i mean a couple

01:10:43.689 --> 01:10:46.449
things yeah about six or seven dude brian's pretty

01:10:46.449 --> 01:10:48.390
great thank you very much you saved me a lot

01:10:48.390 --> 01:10:51.090
he is he's a great guy he's hilarious he's got

01:10:51.090 --> 01:10:57.649
my same uh he's got my same dark humor so i could

01:10:57.649 --> 01:10:59.590
send shit to him on instagram and know that he

01:10:59.590 --> 01:11:01.789
won't take yeah we me and brian send each other

01:11:01.789 --> 01:11:05.130
some of the weirdest fucking shit dude yeah i

01:11:05.130 --> 01:11:08.850
just got him and i too He sent me something today

01:11:08.850 --> 01:11:12.250
with a fucking jawbreaker on a hot metal just

01:11:12.250 --> 01:11:16.489
melting itself. Dude, he sends me, like, dark

01:11:16.489 --> 01:11:19.329
shit. Like, I can't even talk about it on the

01:11:19.329 --> 01:11:22.409
podcast. He sends me dark shit and gay shit.

01:11:22.409 --> 01:11:23.909
Oh, gay shit all the time. We send each other

01:11:23.909 --> 01:11:27.729
funny gay shit all the time. It's funny. I told

01:11:27.729 --> 01:11:30.449
him when we, because he was dressed up as a lobster

01:11:30.449 --> 01:11:33.640
for this trunk or treat. And I was like, which

01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:35.520
one of these? I said, does lobsters have dicks?

01:11:35.539 --> 01:11:38.380
And I reached under his tail in his costume and

01:11:38.380 --> 01:11:40.100
reached up there. And he goes, yeah, come on,

01:11:40.100 --> 01:11:42.859
feel it. Did you see the octopus? He had a little

01:11:42.859 --> 01:11:47.100
octopus. The vagina? Yeah. Yeah. I looked at

01:11:47.100 --> 01:11:48.560
Brian. I said, you're saving this for later.

01:11:48.899 --> 01:11:50.699
He's like, yep, this is going in the bedroom.

01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:53.859
He had this inflatable octopus in the back of

01:11:53.859 --> 01:11:58.579
his forerunner. And it had a little hole in it

01:11:58.579 --> 01:12:00.920
where you're supposed to grab candy out of it.

01:12:01.810 --> 01:12:04.649
It was a slit. I said, this is like. It was not

01:12:04.649 --> 01:12:08.590
a hole. It was a slit. It was an octopus -y.

01:12:09.149 --> 01:12:12.430
And for sure, I looked at him, and he looked

01:12:12.430 --> 01:12:15.090
at me. We met eyes. We both smiled, and he was

01:12:15.090 --> 01:12:16.670
like, yeah, I'll be using it later. I was like,

01:12:16.750 --> 01:12:19.649
yeah. I was like, I was going to tell you. That

01:12:19.649 --> 01:12:21.289
might be a good idea. I was going to ask you

01:12:21.289 --> 01:12:23.189
if you wanted it or if you wanted me to take

01:12:23.189 --> 01:12:27.310
it home. Yeah. But, yeah, he's a funny guy. He's

01:12:27.310 --> 01:12:29.489
great. He's been to a lot of our things lately.

01:12:30.510 --> 01:12:33.130
He's been getting out to come. So it's always

01:12:33.130 --> 01:12:35.609
cool. This is the first time camping with him

01:12:35.609 --> 01:12:37.949
this summer. I think a lot of us, actually, the

01:12:37.949 --> 01:12:39.569
first time he's come out. Yeah, because he always

01:12:39.569 --> 01:12:42.289
bails on third gen weekend, like the day of.

01:12:43.689 --> 01:12:48.090
Yeah. So it's cool. He's been around a lot. He's

01:12:48.090 --> 01:12:52.130
a good man, good guy to have around. So I did

01:12:52.130 --> 01:12:55.550
get to meet up with another guy, Bill. I haven't

01:12:55.550 --> 01:12:57.750
seen him since the first kids camp this summer.

01:12:59.430 --> 01:13:01.569
He did some upgrades to his fucking Jeep. That

01:13:01.569 --> 01:13:03.850
was pretty sick. He got like a, what do they

01:13:03.850 --> 01:13:07.810
call him, a half topper or whatever for his Gladiator.

01:13:08.390 --> 01:13:11.630
And threw his rooftop tent on that. And he does

01:13:11.630 --> 01:13:14.229
a lot of his own mods. He does like trucking

01:13:14.229 --> 01:13:16.890
and stuff. So it was cool catching up with him.

01:13:17.010 --> 01:13:19.670
And it's always cool going to those meets just

01:13:19.670 --> 01:13:21.390
to catch up with the old friends that you don't

01:13:21.390 --> 01:13:23.970
see. Sometimes you don't see them for months.

01:13:24.510 --> 01:13:29.020
Sometimes it's almost a whole year. um so i like

01:13:29.020 --> 01:13:32.340
the wheeling part of off -roading but the social

01:13:32.340 --> 01:13:36.699
part is so fun dude like and there's a lot there's

01:13:36.699 --> 01:13:39.659
a lot to the social side of it and it comes with

01:13:39.659 --> 01:13:42.100
some drama but you just fucking put that shit

01:13:42.100 --> 01:13:46.159
off and yeah right and i think that's something

01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:48.680
that like that's what these communities are about

01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.479
too is like is not only is it a good information

01:13:52.479 --> 01:13:55.899
source but it's a really good way to find friends

01:13:55.899 --> 01:13:58.579
in a community where you don't typically have

01:13:58.579 --> 01:14:02.060
local friends. Like, our group, the Botches group,

01:14:02.180 --> 01:14:07.619
isn't the typical, it isn't usual. Like, there's

01:14:07.619 --> 01:14:10.600
not a lot of people like that that are that close.

01:14:10.619 --> 01:14:12.340
Right, and if you think about the Botches group,

01:14:12.500 --> 01:14:16.579
like, it was me, Mark, Duncan didn't come from

01:14:16.579 --> 01:14:20.640
MSD, but you and Shane, I would not have known

01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:23.739
you. I knew that you were married to Sienna,

01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:26.260
but I'd never met you. You know, I just knew

01:14:26.260 --> 01:14:28.319
that Sienna got married to some fat guy named

01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:33.840
Gavin. Yeah, exactly. So at least he came out

01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:36.380
with a Toyota. I mean, that is the one plus.

01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:40.920
So, I mean, but yeah, you don't meet these people

01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:43.119
unless you go to these events. And some of these

01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:47.119
people I would consider, in the future, lifelong

01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:51.000
friends. And you don't find that. Like, as working

01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:54.420
adults and working men, a lot of the times you

01:14:54.420 --> 01:14:57.380
don't get that kind of interaction at work. We're

01:14:57.380 --> 01:14:59.819
older now. We don't go to bars every fucking

01:14:59.819 --> 01:15:02.159
week or multiple days a week. Even then, the

01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:04.340
friends you make at bars, nine times out of ten,

01:15:04.460 --> 01:15:07.180
they're a very close friend that lasts a year

01:15:07.180 --> 01:15:10.840
or two. You don't get... Yeah, they're not real

01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:13.960
friends, I guess. Yeah, like me and Mark. Like

01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.579
me and Mark, we've been friends for what, like

01:15:16.579 --> 01:15:18.659
six, seven years now? Like it's been a while.

01:15:19.180 --> 01:15:23.239
Yeah, it's been a bit. Yeah. So it's one of those

01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:24.920
things. And the thing is, is like the people

01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:29.260
like us, our typical groups aren't in bars. They're

01:15:29.260 --> 01:15:33.619
not at Playdates. They're not at Target, you

01:15:33.619 --> 01:15:37.539
know. There is no real. They're at campgrounds.

01:15:37.539 --> 01:15:39.659
They're secluded. They're out in the middle of

01:15:39.659 --> 01:15:41.920
nowhere. They're at Home Depot. They're working

01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:46.539
on their car. A lot of us stay at home. We don't

01:15:46.539 --> 01:15:50.720
do these events outside of wheeling and rigs

01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.500
and stuff. We don't do, I don't know. So it's

01:15:54.500 --> 01:15:57.260
one of the only ways to meet these type of people.

01:15:57.979 --> 01:16:00.539
And it takes a lot of trust to trust some of

01:16:00.539 --> 01:16:02.500
these guys to go out camping with them for the

01:16:02.500 --> 01:16:06.340
first time. But you know what? Everything goes

01:16:06.340 --> 01:16:13.039
well, and people like Nolan, you guys, I've met

01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:16.720
a few of them. I really like Bill. A lot of these

01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:19.520
guys are what I would consider longtime friends.

01:16:20.140 --> 01:16:22.800
I absolutely would have went to Nolan's wedding

01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:27.380
if I could have, and it just happened to be the

01:16:27.380 --> 01:16:30.500
wrong time. Not Nolan's wedding. I'm not saying

01:16:30.500 --> 01:16:33.300
reschedule it, but it just, you know. Wrong date.

01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:37.859
Just didn't line up. But these guys are really

01:16:37.859 --> 01:16:40.000
good guys. I mean, you really get to know them

01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.260
when you're up until 3 a .m. Dog. Shooting shit.

01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:46.479
You always get into that deep shit at about 3

01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:52.699
a .m. Yeah. You hit that 1 to 3 a .m. where the

01:16:52.699 --> 01:16:56.239
camp gets real quiet. Fuck, me and Nolan have

01:16:56.239 --> 01:17:00.340
stayed up until 4 a .m. talking about shit that...

01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.159
People don't talk, I mean, you don't talk about

01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:05.420
it unless you have close friends, right? Yeah.

01:17:05.699 --> 01:17:09.840
And so, you know, and that's the kind of community

01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:12.859
you find in people. So that's why these events,

01:17:12.979 --> 01:17:17.640
these groups are so good, especially in the winter.

01:17:17.739 --> 01:17:21.279
Because in the winter, like, cabin fever, depression's

01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:23.800
all -time high. You got to have a way to get

01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:29.090
out there and have someone to talk to. It gets

01:17:29.090 --> 01:17:31.829
rough, man. Before I met you guys, basically

01:17:31.829 --> 01:17:34.550
my winter was just working and sitting at home,

01:17:34.630 --> 01:17:38.109
and that got rough. That shit gets dark when

01:17:38.109 --> 01:17:40.250
you're stuck into that rut. Now I get random

01:17:40.250 --> 01:17:42.569
calls at 3 a .m. Hey, there's some guy stuck.

01:17:42.890 --> 01:17:46.609
Do you want to go save him? That's fun. It's

01:17:46.609 --> 01:17:48.510
different. And then they're not even there. Yeah,

01:17:48.510 --> 01:17:51.689
they're not even there. So me and Alex have done

01:17:51.689 --> 01:17:53.409
probably, what, five rescues this year? Yeah,

01:17:53.409 --> 01:17:56.260
something like that. And every single rescue

01:17:56.260 --> 01:17:57.840
before we get out there, they get out. Or just

01:17:57.840 --> 01:17:59.199
get themselves out. But we're out there together.

01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:01.539
Or they just get themselves out. Yeah. Or they

01:18:01.539 --> 01:18:03.039
just quit. Or they're not even there. Or they

01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:06.020
quit responding. Listen, dog. Yeah. No one wants

01:18:06.020 --> 01:18:11.159
to hear you. Aw. So, yeah, I mean, while it's

01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:13.939
not the most convenient, a lot of the times these

01:18:13.939 --> 01:18:17.039
rescues are like 11 p .m., 12 p .m., or 12 a

01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:19.869
.m., whatever. And so we're like, well, all right,

01:18:19.890 --> 01:18:21.689
let's go throw our shit on. We're up anyway.

01:18:21.810 --> 01:18:26.130
Let's go do it. So, I mean, it's fun. Or we go

01:18:26.130 --> 01:18:28.789
in storm chase. That was pretty fun, too. Dude,

01:18:28.789 --> 01:18:32.810
that was so fun. Yeah, I almost went out with

01:18:32.810 --> 01:18:34.890
you the one day, and I didn't see your shit until

01:18:34.890 --> 01:18:39.229
later. Fortunately, that storm was there and

01:18:39.229 --> 01:18:41.430
gone pretty quickly. That was a very short -lived

01:18:41.430 --> 01:18:45.409
storm. I looked forward to the winter storm chasing.

01:18:45.590 --> 01:18:48.670
It wasn't even advertised that there was going

01:18:48.670 --> 01:18:50.289
to be a storm. I just looked out, and I'm like,

01:18:50.329 --> 01:18:52.130
huh, the clouds are dark. Hey, Gavin, what are

01:18:52.130 --> 01:18:56.949
you doing? Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to winter

01:18:56.949 --> 01:18:58.829
storm chasing, getting those chainsaws in the

01:18:58.829 --> 01:19:01.609
truck, and just driving around, pulling people

01:19:01.609 --> 01:19:06.170
out. It's going to be fun. Oh, we didn't mention.

01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:10.319
And I'll jump back to this real quick. On our

01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:15.199
little poker cords and calf run, I did get to

01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:18.159
use my winch. You did? For the first time since

01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:20.239
mounting my winch, I got to use it on another

01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:23.439
truck. So that was cool. When Shane got hung

01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:26.800
up on his, I think it was on his frame, on that

01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:30.479
rut, I pulled him out the three or four feet.

01:19:30.619 --> 01:19:35.640
That was the first time I did that. It is important

01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:38.979
to use proper recovery techniques. So I did have,

01:19:39.100 --> 01:19:41.300
I think I had Mark next to me. He was helping

01:19:41.300 --> 01:19:43.979
me hook up. And I asked Mark the whole time,

01:19:44.020 --> 01:19:46.020
I'm like, hey, you know, am I hooking this soft

01:19:46.020 --> 01:19:48.000
shackle up right? You know, I just wanted to

01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:51.239
make sure I've done a soft shackle before. I

01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:53.659
haven't done it under a winch load. So I wanted

01:19:53.659 --> 01:19:56.039
to make sure I was doing everything right. Make

01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:58.640
sure that's another good way, good reason to

01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:01.739
have this community with you is that. When you

01:20:01.739 --> 01:20:04.100
are unexperienced in some ways, you can lean

01:20:04.100 --> 01:20:06.340
on other people like Mark. He's done recoveries.

01:20:06.340 --> 01:20:09.079
He knows what he's doing. So I can lean on him

01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:10.720
and go, hey, I just want to make sure I'm doing

01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:12.399
this right. I don't want to fuck it up. Yep,

01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:15.199
you're doing it right. Cool. And keep going.

01:20:15.460 --> 01:20:19.079
Everybody clears out of the way. Hey, just double

01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:20.699
checking. I got to have my foot on the brake,

01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:22.720
right? Because that can't be good for my transmission.

01:20:23.260 --> 01:20:25.750
Everyone goes, yep. I said, okay, cool. That

01:20:25.750 --> 01:20:28.449
parking Paul does a great job. I have winched

01:20:28.449 --> 01:20:31.270
out without having my foot on the brake so many

01:20:31.270 --> 01:20:35.489
times. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't want to stress

01:20:35.489 --> 01:20:37.409
it. The fact that my truck rocks when you put

01:20:37.409 --> 01:20:42.409
it in park, that's normal. Right. Yeah, the little

01:20:42.409 --> 01:20:46.609
bit of shift that you get, that's typically fine.

01:20:47.329 --> 01:20:51.029
But hey, guys, we're at about an hour and a half

01:20:51.029 --> 01:20:54.319
-ish. Yeah, I'm ready to poop. Yeah, I kind of

01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:55.880
got to poop. That's kind of where I was going

01:20:55.880 --> 01:20:58.279
with this. And this dog. I think she might have

01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:00.100
to poop, too. I don't know if you heard her talking

01:21:00.100 --> 01:21:04.300
earlier. Yeah. So, yeah. We'll catch you guys

01:21:04.300 --> 01:21:07.840
later. Yeah. Thanks for listening, and we'll

01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:10.779
see you on the next one. I was going to try and

01:21:10.779 --> 01:21:12.939
get everyone else's sign -offs. I think Snail

01:21:12.939 --> 01:21:17.000
Trail does keep crawling. I don't remember what

01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.710
Benji's is. Yeah, everyone's got crazy sign -offs,

01:21:20.710 --> 01:21:22.949
so catch you guys later, I guess. Yep, later.