WEBVTT 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:07.019 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:07.019 --> 00:00:09.380 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:12.419 tank camping to rock landing, and all things 00:00:12.419 --> 00:00:16.820 to do with the outdoors. I am really quiet. It 00:00:16.820 --> 00:00:18.620 doesn't sound like it. It doesn't sound like 00:00:18.620 --> 00:00:29.800 it. Sounds like you're very normal. Well, I have 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:36.100 to say... Wendy's in Noyago, please go fuck yourself. 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.759 I just got over some massive food poisoning that 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:45.880 I almost died from, I swear to God. You still 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:50.960 sounded rough there, pal. Yeah. Coming out both 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:57.979 sides, I haven't had a solid number two in... 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:03.460 It must be before last Wednesday. Jesus. That 00:01:03.460 --> 00:01:07.640 was when I got it. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 00:01:07.659 --> 00:01:13.840 just absolutely horrible. And he's been as grumpy 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:15.939 as you could expect from someone who's that sick. 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:21.980 I've just been super tired, super grumpy, doing 00:01:21.980 --> 00:01:27.640 drywall in my house. So that's fun. On top of 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:30.400 that, I get, like, really bad dust allergies, 00:01:30.500 --> 00:01:34.280 if that makes sense, so. And doing drywall ain't 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:39.120 great for that. No. No. Plus my asthma, so. Definitely 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:42.900 been running around the house in a bandana because 00:01:42.900 --> 00:01:47.439 respirators are for babies. You're at least wetting 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:53.519 the bandana first, right? Fuck, huh? Oh. Yeah, 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.739 I. Wet bandana over me. I have the worst food 00:01:57.739 --> 00:02:00.200 poison I've ever had actually came from Wendy's. 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:05.859 We'll do a quick flashback, right? Not flashback. 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.719 Yeah, flashback, I guess, is the term. So it's 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:12.419 freshman year of high school, right? Getting 00:02:12.419 --> 00:02:15.439 ready to perform at one of the largest band competitions 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:19.039 in the Midwest. We go to Wendy's beforehand. 00:02:20.629 --> 00:02:23.210 This is regionals, Mark, not state, by the way. 00:02:23.229 --> 00:02:25.050 Yeah, I was about to say, is this Indianapolis? 00:02:25.909 --> 00:02:28.969 No, that would be nationals, but no, this is 00:02:28.969 --> 00:02:31.250 regionals. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. We never 00:02:31.250 --> 00:02:33.289 did regionals, so I have no idea where that's 00:02:33.289 --> 00:02:40.590 at, or was that. Was it the Silverdome? At this 00:02:40.590 --> 00:02:43.909 point, it's at the Pontiac Silverdome. And so 00:02:43.909 --> 00:02:46.009 anyways, we get Wendy's. Didn't that tear down? 00:02:46.349 --> 00:02:48.550 I thought it was torn down a while ago. Yeah, 00:02:48.569 --> 00:02:52.020 like 2012. Oh, I thought it was way before that. 00:02:52.020 --> 00:02:54.639 No, not even then. You're getting my story off 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:57.139 track, but now I'm curious. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:07.580 Well, keep going while he's typing. They demolished 00:03:07.580 --> 00:03:12.599 it in 2016. Hmm. Yeah. I thought it was way before 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:14.860 we went to high school, but anyways. So anyways, 00:03:15.099 --> 00:03:18.099 we're performing at the Silverdome. And I start 00:03:18.099 --> 00:03:20.259 feeling sick as we're doing our practice run 00:03:20.259 --> 00:03:22.340 outside. And I'm like, ah, you know, I'll push 00:03:22.340 --> 00:03:25.639 through it. We march into the stadium. The minute 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.340 that we start performing Godzilla, because this 00:03:28.340 --> 00:03:31.180 was Godzilla. What a great show. The minute we 00:03:31.180 --> 00:03:34.979 start performing, I start throwing up like I'm 00:03:34.979 --> 00:03:37.479 on the field, throwing up in my mouth, swallowing 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.520 it. I didn't play once through the entire performance, 00:03:40.659 --> 00:03:42.699 but I marched that entire fucking performance. 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.520 I marched. All the way off the field, and the 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:48.759 second that we stepped into the tunnel, I started 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:51.900 projectile vomiting, and I was puking for a good 00:03:51.900 --> 00:03:56.280 four and a half, five hours straight. Jesus. 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.939 Yeah, and probably until they tore the building 00:04:01.939 --> 00:04:04.180 down, there were some really big stains in the 00:04:04.180 --> 00:04:07.460 lion's old locker room where I definitely, definitely 00:04:07.460 --> 00:04:11.979 put them there. Jesus. Yeah, terrible experience. 00:04:12.810 --> 00:04:14.750 Yeah, that sounds like a horrible experience. 00:04:15.129 --> 00:04:17.569 And I didn't eat Wendy's for like eight years 00:04:17.569 --> 00:04:23.350 after that. Oh yeah, dude, I'm done. Yeah. We 00:04:23.350 --> 00:04:25.730 ain't doing that. What's really funny is you 00:04:25.730 --> 00:04:27.649 told me that you were sick from Wendy's and that 00:04:27.649 --> 00:04:32.790 night we went to Wendy's. Well, I'm not guaranteeing 00:04:32.790 --> 00:04:36.730 that Wendy's don't come after me, but like I 00:04:36.730 --> 00:04:40.370 didn't eat anything that day. Only thing I ate 00:04:40.370 --> 00:04:44.699 was Wendy's. and all of a sudden I'm dog off. 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:49.199 I mean, just dead to the world sick. That's an 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.879 indicator for me. I don't know about anyone else. 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:58.920 And I was out of my famed diarrhea stopper, as 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:03.360 they call it. Amodium? Amodium, yeah. Amodium? 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.839 Amonium, is that what you call it? Amodium? Yeah. 00:05:08.139 --> 00:05:13.699 Imbulbalizer? Yeah. Gut stopper? Gut stopper. 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.060 Yeah, that's what they call it. Same thing you 00:05:16.060 --> 00:05:19.819 put into your engine. It's a stop leak, basically. 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:26.899 But I always take it when I camp, so I go through 00:05:26.899 --> 00:05:29.860 it a lot more than the typical person. And it 00:05:29.860 --> 00:05:31.839 always helps when I camp. I don't know why, but 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:36.379 it's a proven method. Proven method. Can confirm. 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:39.699 As someone who has to poop a fuck ton, I started 00:05:39.699 --> 00:05:41.459 taking it when I camped too, and it helps a lot. 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.459 It saves money, dude. You don't go through as 00:05:44.459 --> 00:05:48.319 many trash bags, as many baby wipes. Yep. You 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.579 don't accidentally wipe yourself with a Clorox 00:05:50.579 --> 00:05:52.939 wipe. You don't get your truck stuck and then 00:05:52.939 --> 00:05:55.019 have the nervous shits real bad and have to run 00:05:55.019 --> 00:05:58.079 off into the woods and be a real bad person and 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.009 leave a fucking white flower. Yep. Don't have 00:06:01.009 --> 00:06:04.310 to use so many mint scented trash bags. Oh my 00:06:04.310 --> 00:06:08.649 God. Whatever. Listeners, if there's one thing 00:06:08.649 --> 00:06:10.810 you can take away from this shitty, literally 00:06:10.810 --> 00:06:14.730 shitty episode, do not use mint scented trash 00:06:14.730 --> 00:06:19.870 bags. Oh my God. Yeah. So Alex has that run in. 00:06:19.930 --> 00:06:23.389 I had one where a couple of camp trips ago, I 00:06:23.389 --> 00:06:26.689 thought I grabbed my baby wipes. And I grabbed 00:06:26.689 --> 00:06:29.930 my little Clorox to go with it and wiped my ass 00:06:29.930 --> 00:06:34.730 with those. Got my nice lemony bleach burning 00:06:34.730 --> 00:06:38.410 sensation. And I mean, I didn't realize it. Like 00:06:38.410 --> 00:06:40.089 when you're camping and you go to your little 00:06:40.089 --> 00:06:43.110 port -a -potty, it's dark. You know, I try not 00:06:43.110 --> 00:06:45.589 to throw my flashlight around all that much because 00:06:45.589 --> 00:06:49.589 I like to have night vision. And I just didn't 00:06:49.589 --> 00:06:52.449 realize, man. I just peeled it off. I wiped and 00:06:52.449 --> 00:06:58.220 I was like, huh, why? huh, that really burns. 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.540 And then like trying to figure out why I wipe 00:07:00.540 --> 00:07:03.240 again. I'm like, maybe, you know, maybe I got 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:04.939 a cut or something, you know, everyone gets those, 00:07:04.980 --> 00:07:09.420 whatever. And, uh, especially Gavin. No, not 00:07:09.420 --> 00:07:14.139 that much. Not especially me, but so I checked 00:07:14.139 --> 00:07:16.040 the thing and it was this Clorox and I'm like, 00:07:16.100 --> 00:07:19.139 that's why. So that burning sensation lasted 00:07:19.139 --> 00:07:23.120 for about 15 minutes and now it was hell. I was 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.930 sweating. Have you had Sienna inspect to see 00:07:25.930 --> 00:07:29.310 if your butthole is now a lighter color? No, 00:07:29.370 --> 00:07:33.209 no, no. You know, you'd think with it never seeing 00:07:33.209 --> 00:07:36.269 the light of day, it'd be pretty light, but I 00:07:36.269 --> 00:07:38.529 can probably put money on it that it is not that. 00:07:39.529 --> 00:07:44.550 So, but yeah, no, don't use Clorox wipes. And 00:07:44.550 --> 00:07:46.509 apparently this isn't a universal experience 00:07:46.509 --> 00:07:50.660 for a lot of campers because. I posted that as, 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.680 like, an Instagram reel, and that fucking blew 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:58.459 up, dude. Dude, I got, like, I think 200 -some 00:07:58.459 --> 00:08:02.879 thousand views on that and a shit ton of comments 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:06.279 of other people either telling me to nut up, 00:08:06.339 --> 00:08:09.860 rip a sleeve of my shirt off. Yeah, I saw that. 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.579 They've had a similar experience in some other 00:08:12.579 --> 00:08:15.720 way, shape, or form. I tag dude wipes because 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.600 the... It's funny enough, the post before it, 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.500 which inspired me, was Dude Wipes had pumpkin 00:08:21.500 --> 00:08:26.279 spice flavored Dude Wipes. And I was like, you 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:30.699 know what? I like to eat food, and your butthole 00:08:30.699 --> 00:08:35.440 can taste. So I wonder what it would be like 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.480 to try pumpkin spice without actually eating 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.100 it. You know what I mean? It's a study that they 00:08:43.100 --> 00:08:46.539 say nuts can sense flavor. Like umami flavors? 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:50.039 I've never done it, but just saying. All right, 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.759 this will be kind of a fun one then. What is 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:59.320 your least popular Instagram reel? Probably anything 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:02.299 that actually has my family in it, oddly enough. 00:09:05.299 --> 00:09:09.419 Like, my family ones don't do as much as I'd 00:09:09.419 --> 00:09:15.940 like to be family -oriented in mine. I just, 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.600 I don't have the follower count, and people don't 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:20.940 really give a shit about it at this point. Right. 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:25.919 As far as what my content does. Least popular. 00:09:28.940 --> 00:09:32.039 I have, okay, I'm going to give my worst two. 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:35.259 Okay, worst three, because one of them is kind 00:09:35.259 --> 00:09:39.740 of funny. So my worst three, number one, and 00:09:39.740 --> 00:09:44.870 this is my third worst one. A while ago, I jokingly 00:09:44.870 --> 00:09:48.470 made a reel trying to make the Mule, which is 00:09:48.470 --> 00:09:52.850 my daily. It's a Kawasaki Mule. And it only got, 00:09:52.889 --> 00:09:57.250 like, four likes. Like, it was really bad. Ooh. 00:09:57.889 --> 00:10:02.129 And then, I mean, it's almost as bad as the most 00:10:02.129 --> 00:10:04.750 wanted ones that you did. Those only got, like, 00:10:04.750 --> 00:10:10.149 six. But my next worst one. On yours, they only 00:10:10.149 --> 00:10:13.350 got six? Yeah, the one that. Yeah, the one you 00:10:13.350 --> 00:10:18.769 tagged me in. Damn. Yeah. So then the next worst 00:10:18.769 --> 00:10:22.090 one, a long time ago. This is like one of my 00:10:22.090 --> 00:10:25.769 first reels I made on this Instagram. I took 00:10:25.769 --> 00:10:29.909 a glamour shots of a trash can here on the farm. 00:10:30.169 --> 00:10:32.330 And it was like just taking glamour shots of 00:10:32.330 --> 00:10:38.429 my friend's JK. It only got six likes and three 00:10:38.429 --> 00:10:40.529 comments. And the three comments are, I love 00:10:40.529 --> 00:10:46.870 my JK. And then the absolute worst one I've ever 00:10:46.870 --> 00:10:49.950 done, I took a picture of a Meshtastic node when 00:10:49.950 --> 00:10:54.529 I first put it up. It got two likes. And one 00:10:54.529 --> 00:10:57.950 of them is Mark, so it doesn't even count. Damn. 00:10:58.789 --> 00:11:01.070 To be honest, I've been doing this kind of for 00:11:01.070 --> 00:11:04.070 a while, and I have a lot of stuff on my page, 00:11:04.090 --> 00:11:05.970 so it's kind of hard for me to find one that 00:11:05.970 --> 00:11:07.789 doesn't have under, like, a couple hundred likes. 00:11:08.870 --> 00:11:12.429 But... I can say confidently that if it has an 00:11:12.429 --> 00:11:17.769 article of my clothing for merch, or has my son 00:11:17.769 --> 00:11:21.389 in it in one of my dopey posts about how much 00:11:21.389 --> 00:11:25.409 I sometimes like him, yeah, that doesn't do well 00:11:25.409 --> 00:11:28.710 at all. It's like, product reviews do pretty 00:11:28.710 --> 00:11:34.830 well. Anything to do with Overlanding as a joke, 00:11:35.009 --> 00:11:38.769 like a lot of mine are kind of... A lot of my 00:11:38.769 --> 00:11:41.549 content on my Instagram right now is fillers 00:11:41.549 --> 00:11:44.889 to kind of fill in while I'm not doing anything 00:11:44.889 --> 00:11:49.169 or can't afford to go do anything. Oh, you have 00:11:49.169 --> 00:11:53.190 a few with no likes. Do I? How do you look at 00:11:53.190 --> 00:11:56.929 that? I go to your thing and then hover my mouse 00:11:56.929 --> 00:11:58.870 over it and it tells me how many likes. Most 00:11:58.870 --> 00:12:02.750 of yours are around 10. You got quite a few that 00:12:02.750 --> 00:12:05.409 bump up to a couple hundred, but it's like 10 00:12:05.409 --> 00:12:08.750 to 20 or... a couple hundred and then a couple 00:12:08.750 --> 00:12:13.809 that are none oh which oh yeah okay i see it 00:12:13.809 --> 00:12:16.990 now if you have none that means that i didn't 00:12:16.990 --> 00:12:19.250 see it because i like all your posts as a default 00:12:19.250 --> 00:12:24.669 yes oh yeah so like my uh my clothing ones have 00:12:24.669 --> 00:12:29.870 zero yeah i love them so which is fine it's not 00:12:29.870 --> 00:12:32.070 like i'm trying to like i don't make any money 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:34.950 really off of it so i don't really care but i 00:12:34.950 --> 00:12:37.750 mean the merch is just The merch is just fun 00:12:37.750 --> 00:12:42.049 to make, man. Like, we got some cool stuff. Wow, 00:12:42.210 --> 00:12:44.549 we had no topic, but this is actually a fun topic, 00:12:44.649 --> 00:12:47.570 just talking about people and Instagram and stuff. 00:12:49.950 --> 00:12:52.769 I don't even know what merch we have on our store 00:12:52.769 --> 00:12:56.149 right now. I feel like I just added stuff, but... 00:12:56.149 --> 00:12:59.090 Yeah, I just added stuff onto mine, too. I have 00:12:59.090 --> 00:13:05.620 to go through my stuff. So we use Printful. That's 00:13:05.620 --> 00:13:09.779 what botches use. That's what I use for Huckleberry's 00:13:09.779 --> 00:13:13.759 outdoor adventures. And Alex kind of turned me 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.080 on to it, and I've seen the light. It's really 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:21.120 cool. I wish they had some more, maybe some different 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.820 printing techniques for, like, cups and stuff. 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:29.399 But other than that, they're pretty decent. And 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:31.639 you can kind of mark your clothing up and stuff 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:36.360 however you really want to. Um, we typically 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.899 like Alex doesn't mark his up almost at all. 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.820 I keep mine at like a very, very small, probably 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:48.500 the same or less on, on a lot of my stuff. And 00:13:48.500 --> 00:13:50.980 then I kind of also gauge it by like the more 00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:53.120 I think people will buy it, the lower I'll make 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:57.460 it. Yeah. So like sweatshirts and stuff like 00:13:57.460 --> 00:14:01.500 that are much cheaper typically. Um, just because 00:14:01.500 --> 00:14:04.580 I want them to have more access to that. Yeah, 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:09.080 I mark up by like a couple dollars, unless it's 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:10.539 something that's already expensive. Like the 00:14:10.539 --> 00:14:14.259 Hawaiian shirt, that's like at price. People 00:14:14.259 --> 00:14:20.700 said they wanted it. Yeah, kind of to that point, 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:23.080 if I know that it's going to be expensive out 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:25.899 the door, I'll usually put it at the absolute 00:14:25.899 --> 00:14:29.279 lowest it can go. Yep, exactly. So that I make 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:33.639 like one penny on it, basically. But for some 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.080 of it, I have a lot that I've added recently, 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:40.340 like a lot. So I've been kind of just going with 00:14:40.340 --> 00:14:42.480 the recommended like, what is it, like 10 or 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.340 15 % markup or whatever it is, which is only 00:14:46.340 --> 00:14:50.019 like after Printful takes its money away for 00:14:50.019 --> 00:14:52.620 the processing and everything that they do because 00:14:52.620 --> 00:14:56.279 it's basically all done on Printful. You don't 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:57.779 have to order any clothing. You don't have to 00:14:57.779 --> 00:15:02.000 put any money into Printful. You just make the 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.100 product or you design it somewhere else. You 00:15:04.100 --> 00:15:07.799 make it, you know, put it on the clothing and 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:10.679 then you can add it to your catalog, sell it. 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:14.179 And then they give you a cut and then they take, 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.860 what is it? They take a certain percentage. They 00:15:16.860 --> 00:15:21.600 take tax shipping and, you know, whatever cut 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.500 they get. And you get whatever's left over based 00:15:24.500 --> 00:15:27.980 on the percentage of markup you did. And it's 00:15:27.980 --> 00:15:34.120 usually like $1. Yep. If that. So, yeah, it's 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:38.600 not the best. I mean, am I going to be able to 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:40.820 do it cheaper somewhere else? I don't know. Have 00:15:40.820 --> 00:15:42.779 you seen the Christmas stickers that I just made 00:15:42.779 --> 00:15:46.820 live? I haven't. I'll have to take a look at 00:15:46.820 --> 00:15:48.820 them. I haven't done one for the FJ yet, but 00:15:48.820 --> 00:15:50.679 I have a 4Runner and Tacoma with a Christmas 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:55.500 tree on the roof. They're pretty sick. I'm going 00:15:55.500 --> 00:15:57.940 to do some Halloween ones actually coming up. 00:15:58.350 --> 00:16:04.610 hell yeah drop on my stuff i i've got some i 00:16:04.610 --> 00:16:06.509 mean we've got more stuff on the botches internal 00:16:06.509 --> 00:16:10.090 store uh because the way that botches do it we 00:16:10.090 --> 00:16:13.009 have uh botches internal store when i make a 00:16:13.009 --> 00:16:14.909 new product we put it there until someone can 00:16:14.909 --> 00:16:17.389 afford to buy it and test it because the last 00:16:17.389 --> 00:16:19.669 thing i want to do is put a shitty product on 00:16:19.669 --> 00:16:28.320 the store yeah yeah uh in mine i don't um But 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.720 I will reimburse someone if they do get a shitty 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.539 product and they genuinely just, like, hate it. 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:37.779 I will give you your money back, whatever you 00:16:37.779 --> 00:16:40.379 spent. Yeah. Hopefully you don't get one because 00:16:40.379 --> 00:16:42.120 I can't really afford to give you back, like, 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:47.620 $300. But honestly, from what I've seen, as long 00:16:47.620 --> 00:16:51.559 as we design it okay, our graphic, the DPI is 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:54.360 high enough in our graphic, they typically turn 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.820 out well enough that people like them. Yeah. 00:16:58.409 --> 00:17:01.570 They're not, um, I haven't seen anything. The 00:17:01.570 --> 00:17:06.470 only thing that I think Printful doesn't, I wouldn't 00:17:06.470 --> 00:17:08.490 say doesn't have the capability of, but they 00:17:08.490 --> 00:17:13.990 do, um, is like the, the stitching, um, embroidering. 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.420 That can be tricky because you really don't know 00:17:17.420 --> 00:17:19.420 what it's going to turn out like. If your design 00:17:19.420 --> 00:17:24.039 is too complicated or uses a lot of colors or 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.720 your shading is complicated, it could make your 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:32.740 stitching and stuff pretty rough. The majority 00:17:32.740 --> 00:17:36.980 of what I do is embroidered because embroidery 00:17:36.980 --> 00:17:41.339 doesn't wear the way a printed shirt does, which 00:17:41.339 --> 00:17:44.859 is most of why we... We buy it first, just to 00:17:44.859 --> 00:17:48.480 test the embroidery. Yeah, speaking of which, 00:17:48.539 --> 00:17:54.420 did you get contact back for that jacket? Yeah, 00:17:54.500 --> 00:17:58.519 we're waiting for it to get here. Yeah, you're 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:02.059 talking about Kalen's? The bee that was messed 00:18:02.059 --> 00:18:06.420 up? Oh, I didn't even worry about it. It's barely 00:18:06.420 --> 00:18:13.920 messed up. Okay. What was that? uh so we ordered 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:18.920 those jean jackets a while ago um yeah and kaylin's 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:23.319 the b is kind of off um it's nothing major you 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.400 can tell it's a b and then i also accidentally 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:28.819 ordered oh i figured out how i did that mark 00:18:28.819 --> 00:18:32.519 so yeah because the jean jackets uh they were 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:36.039 getting um discontinued anyway we just wanted 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.099 to get an order in for us before it happened 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.779 By the way, those are $90 jackets. So like nothing 00:18:41.779 --> 00:18:44.140 I would ever put on the customer facing store. 00:18:44.299 --> 00:18:53.599 No, no. Um, so I, I made a template and then 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:57.079 change the name to Kaylin added her, uh, large 00:18:57.079 --> 00:19:02.559 jacket to the, uh, to the, the cart. Then I changed 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.759 the template to Mark. and ordered a 3XL. Well, 00:19:06.900 --> 00:19:09.099 no, I did that backwards. I did Mark first and 00:19:09.099 --> 00:19:11.519 then changed it for Kaylin. Well, when I changed 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.140 the template, it changed what was in the cart 00:19:14.140 --> 00:19:17.599 too. So it screwed up. I screwed up and I ordered 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:20.180 two jackets with Kaylin's name on them. One is 00:19:20.180 --> 00:19:23.480 a 3XL, one is an XL. So then I had to go back 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:28.259 quickly, order one for Mark that was a 3XL. And 00:19:28.259 --> 00:19:31.039 then I just put a piece of Velcro over the name 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:32.880 on hers and I'm wearing it as a chore jacket. 00:19:37.019 --> 00:19:41.119 Yep. So. It works. Yep. I did rip that today, 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:44.779 but, you know, it happens. It's your work jacket, 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:49.299 so. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, those usually 00:19:49.299 --> 00:19:51.559 fit super small, so I would have paid you if 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:53.920 I thought it would fit me, but I really doubt 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:59.480 it. The 3XL fits me and Mark pretty well. It's 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:03.099 a little. Like, if Alan wanted to button it up, 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:07.700 he is squeezing himself. Yeah. But he is a little 00:20:07.700 --> 00:20:09.980 bit more rounder than us, and he's also tall, 00:20:10.180 --> 00:20:13.960 too. Yeah. So I don't think the 3XL would have 00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:16.779 fit you. And sadly, 3XL was the largest size 00:20:16.779 --> 00:20:20.819 they had. Mm -hmm. That's a me problem. That's 00:20:20.819 --> 00:20:24.700 all good. That being said, that jacket is probably 00:20:24.700 --> 00:20:27.039 one of the nicest jackets I've ever bought. It's 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:31.170 shirt -beligned. Yeah. denim usually not really 00:20:31.170 --> 00:20:33.609 stiff i'm about to say not really stiff denim 00:20:33.609 --> 00:20:36.150 at all so usually denim's kind of stiff this 00:20:36.150 --> 00:20:39.109 one came out just perfect like i'm actually really 00:20:39.109 --> 00:20:41.450 disappointed that they're discontinuing it because 00:20:41.450 --> 00:20:46.490 it's really a nice product well judging by how 00:20:46.490 --> 00:20:50.250 much you had to pay for it said and done i don't 00:20:50.250 --> 00:20:54.029 really uh disagree with their choice i mean to 00:20:54.029 --> 00:20:56.349 have it on is probably more expensive really 00:20:56.349 --> 00:20:58.599 yeah how many people were actually going to buy 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:02.079 it. Exactly. Yeah, I don't, I mean, that being 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:04.480 said, a custom jean jacket like that, you're 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:06.759 going to spend somewhere between $100 and $150. 00:21:07.619 --> 00:21:12.759 So it was priced right. It just, it's not a product 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:18.500 that's going to sell a lot. I would say you could 00:21:18.500 --> 00:21:22.109 probably do it. like a half of the price if you 00:21:22.109 --> 00:21:25.049 just ironed on a patch but it doesn't look as 00:21:25.049 --> 00:21:28.109 good exactly i think most i must say i think 00:21:28.109 --> 00:21:31.250 most of the price is the sherpa lining yeah if 00:21:31.250 --> 00:21:33.289 i did just a denim jacket i could do that for 00:21:33.289 --> 00:21:37.710 like 50 bucks but yeah these ones have that sherpa 00:21:37.710 --> 00:21:40.730 lining and they're it's nice man like i put that 00:21:40.730 --> 00:21:43.230 on in the mornings and i'm sweating when it's 00:21:43.230 --> 00:21:48.829 like 40 out yeah that's good I know, so, like, 00:21:48.890 --> 00:21:51.690 the embroidery is, they do a good job. I mean, 00:21:51.730 --> 00:21:53.869 I don't know what machine they use for it, but 00:21:53.869 --> 00:21:59.009 I've had, like, my, I had, like, a bear. I have, 00:21:59.069 --> 00:22:02.269 like, an embroidered beanie that I bought for 00:22:02.269 --> 00:22:04.730 Sienna that I got her, and it's just basically 00:22:04.730 --> 00:22:07.630 the emblem of us, the three little bears or whatever. 00:22:09.210 --> 00:22:11.789 That was too complicated for it because there 00:22:11.789 --> 00:22:14.450 was some shading and stuff in it. So they asked 00:22:14.450 --> 00:22:17.150 if they could do like a simplified file of it, 00:22:17.190 --> 00:22:19.809 which turned out to be just as good, if not better. 00:22:20.230 --> 00:22:23.869 So Printful is pretty good about it. I really 00:22:23.869 --> 00:22:26.549 don't have any complaints with them. I mean, 00:22:26.609 --> 00:22:29.930 I think that they're pretty reasonably priced. 00:22:29.970 --> 00:22:34.289 And if you subscribe to... There's like a Printful 00:22:34.289 --> 00:22:37.150 Premium. You get even deeper of a discount. I 00:22:37.150 --> 00:22:38.930 just don't think it's worth it for the amount 00:22:38.930 --> 00:22:42.849 of orders that I get. Yeah, I don't have Printful 00:22:42.849 --> 00:22:46.470 Premium. I think I just got one other order from 00:22:46.470 --> 00:22:52.349 someone for $51 for a hoodie, and that's the 00:22:52.349 --> 00:22:54.809 only other order other than myself, Mark, Duncan, 00:22:54.930 --> 00:23:00.059 and Alex. Yeah, I think I've had two people other 00:23:00.059 --> 00:23:02.359 than us, no, one person other than us order. 00:23:03.460 --> 00:23:07.740 Yeah. Definitely not upset about it by any means. 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.240 I'm glad other people are buying it or liking 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:13.400 it enough. Yeah, that being said, listeners, 00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:17.339 go check out our store. The link is in the show 00:23:17.339 --> 00:23:20.180 notes. And for Gavin's store, you got to go to 00:23:20.180 --> 00:23:22.200 his podcast, and I'm sure his link is in his 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:26.460 show notes too. Yeah. It's also on my Instagram. 00:23:27.719 --> 00:23:29.460 He'll have that on there. You can just go to 00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:33.680 my Instagram link. Yeah. Whoops. Oh, you know 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.180 what? I do have something. Since we're talking 00:23:35.180 --> 00:23:39.119 about our socials a little bit, I do kind of 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:43.240 have a gripe and I kind of wanted to voice it 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:46.380 a little bit. And it comes from like when we're 00:23:46.380 --> 00:23:49.559 trying to grow our pages and stuff, we're always 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:54.140 pretty careful to find companies that. we like 00:23:54.140 --> 00:23:56.920 that we agree with that we kind of resonate with 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.940 um and then it's even harder to see if they'll 00:23:59.940 --> 00:24:03.240 work with us and i was kind of scrolling through 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:07.779 and found this company that i thought would have 00:24:07.779 --> 00:24:12.599 been a good fit a lighting company and uh you 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:14.359 know i reached out filled out their sponsorship 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:18.619 form for a for a sponsorship which when you hear 00:24:18.619 --> 00:24:22.910 that it's typically They pay you or they send 00:24:22.910 --> 00:24:26.730 you product and you test it out, you do reviews. 00:24:27.210 --> 00:24:29.569 That's typically what a sponsorship is, is they 00:24:29.569 --> 00:24:31.430 either pay you or they pay you with products. 00:24:32.009 --> 00:24:35.670 And I heard back, had an interview for them and 00:24:35.670 --> 00:24:39.349 was going to do that interview. Decided to do 00:24:39.349 --> 00:24:43.609 some research on this company to see if this 00:24:43.609 --> 00:24:45.730 is actually going to be a good fit for me because 00:24:45.730 --> 00:24:49.339 I don't want to. preach that this company has 00:24:49.339 --> 00:24:52.640 good products when they really don't yeah and 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.160 and then of course i lose all credibility as 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:59.339 far as whatever i'm trying to build so i did 00:24:59.339 --> 00:25:03.240 some look up on it and overwhelmingly horrible 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:10.440 reports on them um so to start um this is a fck 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:14.660 lighting is the company um wow he name dropped 00:25:14.660 --> 00:25:18.420 and everything Oh, I mean, the reports are horrible. 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.759 They have a ton of followers, which I'm 100 % 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.960 sure that they're paid for. And I think it's 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:31.319 like 120 ,000 followers, which is crazy for a 00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.960 lighting company. I guarantee it's paid for because 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:39.660 their posts get like almost zero likes. And then 00:25:39.660 --> 00:25:44.640 when you look at Better Business Bureau. They're 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:48.519 at like 1 .5 stars. Jesus. They have horrible 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:56.180 reviews. So most of them are sponsorship reviews 00:25:56.180 --> 00:26:00.160 too. So basically what they do is they select 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.819 you and then they get you into the sponsorship, 00:26:03.859 --> 00:26:06.940 but you have to actually pay for the sponsorship. 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:13.160 So it's like $600 to do the sponsorship. Jesus. 00:26:13.220 --> 00:26:15.619 And what they do is like heavily discount with 00:26:15.619 --> 00:26:18.059 air quotations around that products. They'll 00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:21.680 send some extra goodies with your product, but 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:24.079 they, they tell you, you have to buy something 00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:29.579 to, to get into the sponsorship. So you buy a 00:26:29.579 --> 00:26:33.460 light bar from them. They send you a flag, some 00:26:33.460 --> 00:26:36.400 patches, some stickers. And of course you have 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.920 to do your video and you have to do your, you 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:40.759 know, whatever you have to do typically for them. 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:47.500 And then not only did you pay probably, I don't 00:26:47.500 --> 00:26:49.940 know, it'd be close to $600 because their lighting 00:26:49.940 --> 00:26:55.400 is not cheap. You then get it. The shipping is 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.920 absolutely horrible. There's tons of people saying 00:26:57.920 --> 00:26:59.900 that it took them forever to get it. And then 00:26:59.900 --> 00:27:02.359 when they finally did, the product was like shitty. 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.940 I'm looking at their lights right now. Dude, 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.019 this shit looks like. Almost cheap Amazon level 00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:13.559 stuff, and they're selling it for like $600. 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.160 That's what I'm saying. It's horrible. I genuinely 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.579 think it's a scam. They're based out of, I think, 00:27:22.579 --> 00:27:25.660 California, but they're supposedly U .S. designed, 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.720 U .S. this and that, and I don't think any of 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.059 it's true. I mean, genuinely, I don't know what 00:27:33.059 --> 00:27:37.480 they're saying or what they're quoting, but we 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.460 looked into it. uh a lot and i was like holy 00:27:41.460 --> 00:27:43.799 shit people are getting scammed left and right 00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:54.700 here so yeah not quite sure um i'm not quite 00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:57.900 sure what they thought they were gonna do but 00:27:57.900 --> 00:28:00.859 a lot of people are saying that like after they 00:28:00.859 --> 00:28:03.799 got their product they ended up needing a whole 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.950 other like um What is it? Like an adapter. Oh, 00:28:08.990 --> 00:28:10.829 you have to buy that separate. What the fuck? 00:28:11.349 --> 00:28:14.069 So and then people's light bars are dying out. 00:28:14.210 --> 00:28:18.049 This and that. They try to return it. They don't 00:28:18.049 --> 00:28:20.809 hear anything back. They get ghosted. They can't 00:28:20.809 --> 00:28:23.430 return it. They make you pay a restocking fee 00:28:23.430 --> 00:28:26.869 when they finally do let you return it. And it's 00:28:26.869 --> 00:28:29.529 like every step of the way, it's an absolute 00:28:29.529 --> 00:28:34.640 fuck. So I do want to point out. Buyer and sponsor 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.740 beware if you're trying to get into an influencer, 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:45.299 an influencer, I guess, what would you call this? 00:28:46.220 --> 00:28:50.119 Job. It's not a job, but, you know, passion, 00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:55.380 whatever. Then you need to look into who you're 00:28:55.380 --> 00:29:01.359 actually looking to sponsor with. Just kind of 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:07.180 a quick fires note, beware. It's not... Sorry, 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.579 I have really bad ADHD, and it's typing as you're 00:29:11.579 --> 00:29:19.359 talking. It is fucking... I keep losing my train 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.059 of thought every time I hear a click, every time 00:29:22.059 --> 00:29:27.920 I see a new message. But... But, I mean, you're 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:29.640 going to hear an alarm in the background. Don't 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.099 be alarmed. Everyone's alive. It's not a slot 00:29:33.099 --> 00:29:37.940 machine. Yeah. And this is just the end of the 00:29:37.940 --> 00:29:42.420 story. But, basically, I was scheduled for a 00:29:42.420 --> 00:29:43.980 call, and I was going to call him and grill him 00:29:43.980 --> 00:29:46.940 about it, record the call, and then have that 00:29:46.940 --> 00:29:51.319 to kind of let other people know, honestly. And 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:56.289 I didn't even get a fucking call. It was scheduled 00:29:56.289 --> 00:30:00.589 for Saturday at 3 p .m., and I was like, cool. 00:30:00.970 --> 00:30:03.690 They didn't fucking get a hold of me until like 00:30:03.690 --> 00:30:08.049 8 p .m. Oh, 3 p .m. their time, 8 p .m. your 00:30:08.049 --> 00:30:10.910 time, probably. No, no, it was 10 a .m. their 00:30:10.910 --> 00:30:13.589 time, 3 p .m. my time. Oh, okay. Because they 00:30:13.589 --> 00:30:18.009 were on California time or some shit. So they 00:30:18.009 --> 00:30:21.670 didn't call me until like 7 or 8 p .m. And at 00:30:21.670 --> 00:30:24.529 that point, I'm pissed. I'm like, dude, I had 00:30:24.529 --> 00:30:29.089 someone watch my kid for a couple hours just 00:30:29.089 --> 00:30:32.390 so that I could have a quiet area to talk to 00:30:32.390 --> 00:30:36.869 them. No call. So on top of that unprofessional 00:30:36.869 --> 00:30:42.670 circumstance that I had, I mean, the reviews 00:30:42.670 --> 00:30:46.009 are absolutely horrible. Beware, dude. Beware 00:30:46.009 --> 00:30:48.029 when you're trying to grow your platforms and 00:30:48.029 --> 00:30:50.970 stuff that you don't jump into products that 00:30:50.970 --> 00:30:53.950 aren't going to be good for your customer and 00:30:53.950 --> 00:30:56.589 scams that are eventually just going to screw 00:30:56.589 --> 00:30:58.789 you over because that is like a signed contract. 00:30:59.190 --> 00:31:02.269 Yeah. So that's hard to get out of. People can't 00:31:02.269 --> 00:31:04.210 just get out of that once they realize you pay 00:31:04.210 --> 00:31:06.970 that money, you sign that contract, you have 00:31:06.970 --> 00:31:10.829 to abide by it. So yeah, it definitely sucks. 00:31:11.390 --> 00:31:15.029 I really like reading companies' terms of service. 00:31:15.130 --> 00:31:18.470 Like, call me a nerd, whatever, but privacy is 00:31:18.470 --> 00:31:21.569 important to me, so I always do it. Section... 00:31:21.569 --> 00:31:25.829 Oh, where's it at? Section 3 of their terms of 00:31:25.829 --> 00:31:28.670 service. We are not responsible if information 00:31:28.670 --> 00:31:31.430 made available on the site is not accurate, complete, 00:31:31.589 --> 00:31:39.880 or current. What the fuck? Like... Literally, 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.299 you would be responsible for that, but because 00:31:42.299 --> 00:31:45.759 they have that in their terms of service. That's 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.519 horrible. Section four, prices for our products 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:50.720 are subject to change without notice and may 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:55.619 be higher than on the website. Again, what the 00:31:55.619 --> 00:31:59.759 fuck is that? Like, see, this is why you have 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:03.980 to be careful, because people lie, and they lie 00:32:03.980 --> 00:32:05.660 through the companies, too. That's why you always 00:32:05.660 --> 00:32:10.460 want to make sure. I did get some good news from 00:32:10.460 --> 00:32:14.259 someone I used to work with in Gerber. She was 00:32:14.259 --> 00:32:17.359 an intern there, and she started working with 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:21.140 Coleman, the camping company. Yep. And she does 00:32:21.140 --> 00:32:24.220 product testing. And she asked, hey, you know, 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.339 we do product testing and stuff through Coleman, 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.319 and all the stuff that we get done testing, it's 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.420 usually completely fine. It works. She goes, 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.039 but we don't really have anything to do with 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.099 it. We pretty much just throw it away. Would 00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:39.460 you be interested in it? And I'm like, absolutely. 00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:43.819 Yeah. So as she gets new products and stuff that 00:32:43.819 --> 00:32:47.240 she gets to test, whether that be sleeping systems, 00:32:47.460 --> 00:32:51.960 tents, lights, anything that Coleman, the parent 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:57.259 company, is making, then, yeah. So she's going 00:32:57.259 --> 00:33:01.609 to send that over to me. Hopefully I get to try 00:33:01.609 --> 00:33:04.190 some new product out. So that's pretty cool. 00:33:04.309 --> 00:33:07.170 It's just a connection that I made a while back 00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:09.250 that I never thought I'd hear from her again. 00:33:09.950 --> 00:33:13.829 And she's out here hooking me up. So Coleman, 00:33:13.990 --> 00:33:16.930 I don't work with Coleman. I won't be affiliated 00:33:16.930 --> 00:33:19.329 with them in any way, but it's still cool to 00:33:19.329 --> 00:33:21.990 get product and try it out in the field and actually 00:33:21.990 --> 00:33:24.809 see how it works. I don't typically buy Coleman 00:33:24.809 --> 00:33:29.759 stuff. I can't say that Coleman's quality has 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:33.440 been stellar lately. I mean, didn't they get 00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:37.619 bought out like six or seven years ago? Yeah, 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.880 I don't know. I could tell you that the one thing 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.000 that they do and do pretty damn well is their 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.920 stoves. They've always had good stoves. They've 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.079 always had good gas lanterns. But that was kind 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:55.269 of their stuff that they had. I don't know. They 00:33:55.269 --> 00:33:57.589 had a while back. It's always been stuff that 00:33:57.589 --> 00:34:00.009 they were very well tested. They know what they're 00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:04.190 doing. They're tense. They're budget tense. They're 00:34:04.190 --> 00:34:09.190 decent, but they're nothing special. But I'd 00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:11.489 be interested to see. Honestly, I haven't looked 00:34:11.489 --> 00:34:16.170 at Coleman in general in a long time. I know 00:34:16.170 --> 00:34:21.150 that I don't trust their UTVs and stuff to save 00:34:21.150 --> 00:34:25.280 my life. And that's from experience, but they 00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.860 got some cool thing. They got like stranger things, 00:34:27.940 --> 00:34:32.300 addition, like, uh, coolers and bags. It's kind 00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:35.619 of cool. Never really seen those before, but 00:34:35.619 --> 00:34:39.460 you know, well, it's just a cool thing that I've 00:34:39.460 --> 00:34:43.739 ran into. It's, it's been a week since I really 00:34:43.739 --> 00:34:45.880 talked to either of you. I mean, I guess I talked 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.000 to Mark a little bit this weekend, but it was 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.199 a busy weekend. So yeah. You guys bought any 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:56.039 new fancy gear or done anything off -roady at 00:34:56.039 --> 00:35:02.159 all? Oh, I took advantage of the deals going 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.960 on and bought a new winch. Yeah? Really? That'll 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.320 be in tomorrow, so that'll be a thing to get 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:15.539 hooked up to this weekend. Nice. And I also bought 00:35:15.539 --> 00:35:17.760 a new sleeping pad because I got tired of the 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.449 pad that's not doing crap for me. Did you get 00:35:20.449 --> 00:35:24.150 it on deals? Yes. And you didn't share it when 00:35:24.150 --> 00:35:26.150 you know that my sleeping pad magically has a 00:35:26.150 --> 00:35:33.050 hole from you? It was before me. I never had 00:35:33.050 --> 00:35:34.949 a problem with it until the night you borrowed 00:35:34.949 --> 00:35:38.190 it. The only thing is that it's going to be a 00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:40.969 little bulky for your liking. But I went for 00:35:40.969 --> 00:35:43.929 comfort over compact. I mean, as long as you 00:35:43.929 --> 00:35:46.429 have the space for it. As long as it fits in 00:35:46.429 --> 00:35:50.150 my pack, I don't give a shit. It won't fit in 00:35:50.150 --> 00:35:52.550 the pack out. Oh, yeah. No, fuck that. It ruins 00:35:52.550 --> 00:35:57.929 the whole point of the pack out. Yeah, so the 00:35:57.929 --> 00:36:01.070 new winch is pretty cool. You got the X -Bowl 00:36:01.070 --> 00:36:06.409 XPV 10K. Yep. That's a pretty good buy. And you 00:36:06.409 --> 00:36:08.309 got a good deal. You paid the same as I did for 00:36:08.309 --> 00:36:14.369 my non -XPV, so. Yep. Can't beat that. No. I, 00:36:14.369 --> 00:36:19.840 so on, was it Sunday? And Sunday or Monday, I 00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:21.940 went to Never Enough to see if they had any, 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.300 like, just beat to shit 37s that I could use 00:36:25.300 --> 00:36:29.360 for test fitting on the 4Runner. And they didn't. 00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:31.599 And then he goes, I think the closest we have 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.300 is a set of 35 takeoffs that look brand new. 00:36:35.980 --> 00:36:37.960 And so we go and look at them. And sure enough, 00:36:38.179 --> 00:36:40.300 I mean, I don't even know what the brand is. 00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:43.940 It's some weird brand I'd never heard of. But 00:36:43.940 --> 00:36:46.199 went and looked at them, and they're a nice set 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:50.030 of ATs. basically brand new almost no miles on 00:36:50.030 --> 00:36:52.050 them and i was like well how much you want for 00:36:52.050 --> 00:36:57.130 him he's like i don't know 200 bucks so 200 bucks 00:36:57.130 --> 00:37:01.469 i got a set of four 35s they're decent enough 00:37:01.469 --> 00:37:06.409 uh i'll get those mounted on friday um yeah i'm 00:37:06.409 --> 00:37:09.070 pretty excited about that that's definitely gonna 00:37:09.070 --> 00:37:12.789 one i've been borrowing tires for the last like 00:37:12.789 --> 00:37:15.210 six months so being on my own tires will be fucking 00:37:15.210 --> 00:37:18.530 nice and then yeah Two, I've been wanting to 00:37:18.530 --> 00:37:22.210 go, I wanted to go 37s, but I'll settle on 35s. 00:37:24.789 --> 00:37:27.130 Yeah, so Forerunner's going to be on 35 soon, 00:37:27.289 --> 00:37:30.409 and we'll see if I need to re -gear or not. Then 00:37:30.409 --> 00:37:33.489 I also, I feel like I bought a lot of shit, but 00:37:33.489 --> 00:37:39.050 I don't even remember what all I bought. I know 00:37:39.050 --> 00:37:42.309 you bought SD Car Reader. Yeah, but no one wants 00:37:42.309 --> 00:37:44.690 to hear about my... really expensive sd card 00:37:44.690 --> 00:37:47.929 yeah i'm just i know i'm just trying to um oh 00:37:47.929 --> 00:37:52.929 with the amazon prime day deals i bought a portable 00:37:52.929 --> 00:38:00.010 hdmi monitor and a mount and a mount for in the 00:38:00.010 --> 00:38:03.750 forerunner so when we're so my off -road rig 00:38:03.750 --> 00:38:05.630 which by the way i don't really do the overland 00:38:05.630 --> 00:38:08.730 thing it's just off -road i now will have a tv 00:38:08.730 --> 00:38:11.590 in the back of my truck Let's see if that's a 00:38:11.590 --> 00:38:15.949 few overland. Get real overland. Now, what's 00:38:15.949 --> 00:38:18.829 really funny is the only reason I did that is 00:38:18.829 --> 00:38:22.369 because sometimes F1 races land on rigs and coffee 00:38:22.369 --> 00:38:25.570 trips, and I want to be able to watch the F1 00:38:25.570 --> 00:38:29.489 race while at rigs and coffee. Coffee. You realize 00:38:29.489 --> 00:38:32.510 that rigs and coffee, there's only one of those 00:38:32.510 --> 00:38:36.489 left. We still have quarters and calf, and... 00:38:37.869 --> 00:38:41.269 Are we doing that throughout the winter? We're 00:38:41.269 --> 00:38:43.329 skipping November because we're really busy in 00:38:43.329 --> 00:38:45.590 November, but I do plan on picking it up in December. 00:38:46.449 --> 00:38:50.710 Yeah. Cool. Actually, I'm going to talk to our 00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:53.349 local pizza place and see if she wants to host 00:38:53.349 --> 00:38:59.489 us for December. Probably December and January, 00:38:59.789 --> 00:39:05.329 I'll look for businesses to work with. But come 00:39:05.329 --> 00:39:11.789 February. Wait, you mean like parking lot host 00:39:11.789 --> 00:39:16.909 or you mean like food? Parking lot. Hell, man, 00:39:16.949 --> 00:39:19.230 come on. I want to do some snow wheeling. Oh, 00:39:19.250 --> 00:39:21.070 I'm not saying we won't, but I'm thinking like, 00:39:21.190 --> 00:39:23.969 you know, give us a parking lot to park in and 00:39:23.969 --> 00:39:26.630 then obviously we'll go inside and enjoy some 00:39:26.630 --> 00:39:31.829 food in the warmth. Fire, big fire, snow wheel 00:39:31.829 --> 00:39:36.050 fire. Snow wheel two big fire. Come February, 00:39:36.050 --> 00:39:40.719 we'll probably. look at maybe january or no come 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.139 february january is before february don't listen 00:39:43.139 --> 00:39:45.599 to me come february we'll probably get back to 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.719 doing like out in the middle of the wood strips 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:53.219 um i do i want to shake it up for next year a 00:39:53.219 --> 00:39:56.579 little bit where for the first six months so 00:39:56.579 --> 00:40:01.539 uh february march april may june july That's 00:40:01.539 --> 00:40:04.000 six months, I think, somewhere in there. Each 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.760 of us from botches will take a month and we'll 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:10.519 find the location. And we'll draw cards for who 00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.559 gets what month. Mm -hmm. Cool with that. Yeah. 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:20.059 I am down with that, too. I do really like the 00:40:20.059 --> 00:40:23.559 idea of bringing a bunch of hot pizza to a big 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:28.360 winter bonfire and having our little propane 00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:35.690 heaters. That sounds like a blast. So, I do have, 00:40:35.750 --> 00:40:39.190 on heaters, I do have a diesel heater in my cart 00:40:39.190 --> 00:40:44.630 right now for $100 because I plan on, not even 00:40:44.630 --> 00:40:47.090 for overlanding, I'm going to put a heater on 00:40:47.090 --> 00:40:50.050 my mule so that I can heat it and clear the windshield. 00:40:51.769 --> 00:40:57.349 That's it. Yep. Well, make it so it can separate 00:40:57.349 --> 00:40:59.170 from it and then you can use it for camping. 00:40:59.369 --> 00:41:04.429 Yeah. Maybe. I'm going to build a back wall because, 00:41:04.489 --> 00:41:06.730 you know, the back just has a gate pretty much. 00:41:06.789 --> 00:41:10.150 Not a gate, but like a screen. So I'm going to 00:41:10.150 --> 00:41:12.670 build a plywood wall and then mount the diesel 00:41:12.670 --> 00:41:15.969 heater in there. I'll plumb the diesel pickup 00:41:15.969 --> 00:41:18.409 down into the diesel tank on the mule because 00:41:18.409 --> 00:41:24.230 the mule is diesel anyway. And then the one I'm 00:41:24.230 --> 00:41:26.170 looking at, you can program it to turn on at 00:41:26.170 --> 00:41:28.840 certain times. So I think I'm just going to have 00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:33.719 it turn on at like, I don't know, 6 in the morning, 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:35.760 6 .30 in the morning. It doesn't even need that 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.219 much time, maybe 7 in the morning, and then have 00:41:38.219 --> 00:41:41.139 it run pretty much all day until about noon, 00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:43.000 and then I can turn it on if I need it after 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:52.980 that. Yep. So it'll be. Make it. Solely the reason 00:41:52.980 --> 00:41:55.840 for doing this is that the windshield on the 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:57.900 mule fogs up, and then you have to hang your 00:41:57.900 --> 00:42:00.460 head out in the cold snow to be able to go anywhere. 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.400 Yeah, that sucks. I think if you're going to 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.460 get one anyway, make it so that you can quickly 00:42:08.460 --> 00:42:11.280 disconnect and use it for camping. Yeah, but 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:15.340 then if I go camping then, anyone else who needs 00:42:15.340 --> 00:42:17.500 to use the mule won't be able to clear the windshield. 00:42:19.059 --> 00:42:22.019 Well, you know what? They can just get used to 00:42:22.019 --> 00:42:25.659 it. Live the life like Alex for a few days. Darn. 00:42:26.699 --> 00:42:30.460 You know? Yeah. What's more important? Unify 00:42:30.460 --> 00:42:35.300 two of them? Honestly, probably. Yeah. I know 00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:39.119 I have one. I'm waiting for my next check whenever 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.900 that tends to come in, and I'll probably get 00:42:41.900 --> 00:42:44.460 it then because we do have some fall camping. 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.260 For a while, I was kind of thinking that maybe 00:42:47.260 --> 00:42:50.130 we were just done. Uh, we do have a few events 00:42:50.130 --> 00:42:52.630 coming up, but it was just getting to the point 00:42:52.630 --> 00:42:54.329 to like, we're starting to focus on other things. 00:42:54.409 --> 00:42:56.590 We got to get wood pallets. We have to make sure 00:42:56.590 --> 00:43:00.429 we have heaters because we have like a, it's, 00:43:00.429 --> 00:43:02.809 I don't know. It's like a, it's a trailer and 00:43:02.809 --> 00:43:06.409 the woods, the wood pallet stove heater does 00:43:06.409 --> 00:43:09.369 good at radiating heat, but radiant heat doesn't 00:43:09.369 --> 00:43:11.610 do great at circulating throughout the house. 00:43:11.989 --> 00:43:14.929 So you have all these other closed rooms, like 00:43:14.929 --> 00:43:18.659 the kid's room. our room, dad's room, the bathroom, 00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:22.880 that do not get any heat at all, and they tend 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:24.860 to get quite cold, so we have electric heaters 00:43:24.860 --> 00:43:28.980 that we run as well. It would be a lot more cost 00:43:28.980 --> 00:43:34.000 -effective to put door fans in. You're a door 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.719 fan. I'll see if I can find some for you. They're 00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.320 usually only like $20, and then you just cut 00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:43.079 a hole in the top of the door and mount it in 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:47.929 the door. Oh, okay. Not my house. I don't think 00:43:47.929 --> 00:43:51.289 I can do that. But it's a really effective way 00:43:51.289 --> 00:43:53.570 to make that work. When we lived in Big Rapids, 00:43:53.570 --> 00:43:56.409 that's what we did because the cost of electric, 00:43:56.670 --> 00:44:00.050 dude, electric heaters are like five times as 00:44:00.050 --> 00:44:04.710 expensive as running anything else. Yeah. Well, 00:44:04.849 --> 00:44:10.619 I'm sure our AC was fun this year. We didn't 00:44:10.619 --> 00:44:13.300 run it a whole lot, just typically when we went 00:44:13.300 --> 00:44:18.420 to bed. I just turned mine off like a couple 00:44:18.420 --> 00:44:22.440 hours ago. The good thing about it is that we 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.480 only have the electric heaters and rooms that 00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.019 we're in, like actually in at the moment. So 00:44:29.019 --> 00:44:32.300 it usually takes 15, 20 minutes to heat up our 00:44:32.300 --> 00:44:35.260 room, and then we turn it off. Yeah. And it's 00:44:35.260 --> 00:44:37.159 usually good for most of the night with our body 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.079 heat and everything. Um, dad's room's a little 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.860 harder because it's cool, like two times bigger 00:44:42.860 --> 00:44:47.179 than ours. But, um, but yeah, no, it's, you know, 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:50.599 still going good. Dad, uh, dad, this is, uh, 00:44:50.619 --> 00:44:53.460 Sienna's dad, by the way, we live with him. He's, 00:44:53.460 --> 00:44:56.539 uh, we're, we're doing a bunch of like renovation 00:44:56.539 --> 00:44:59.619 of the house soon. So we're getting it all prepped. 00:44:59.659 --> 00:45:01.840 I've been doing that drywall. We have to cut 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.099 out some floor and, uh, put some new stuff in. 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.960 So. We, uh, we're going to do some improvements. 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:12.659 We're going to insulate some more walls because 00:45:12.659 --> 00:45:15.340 the walls, the insulation in the walls are like 00:45:15.340 --> 00:45:18.880 horrible. So going to upgrade that as we go, 00:45:19.019 --> 00:45:21.300 put some more drywall up, put some more paint 00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:25.199 up, be good winter projects. Yeah. So that'll 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:31.440 be fun. Yeah. Sounds fun. Yeah. I, uh, I don't 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.719 know. I don't like running electric heat because 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.000 it just, God, dude. The first time we did, the 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.940 cost of electric, because we ran it in Big Rapids 00:45:41.940 --> 00:45:44.739 for like a month, and our electric bill was like 00:45:44.739 --> 00:45:48.980 $500, and that house is tiny. Yeah. No, I mean, 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.739 I know it is. I get it. I miss my one -bedroom 00:45:53.739 --> 00:45:56.739 house that I rented, supposed to go under land 00:45:56.739 --> 00:45:59.360 contract and buy before COVID hit, and they sold 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.320 it out from under me, them cocksuckers. But anyway, 00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:06.079 they heated with natural gas. And that was $30 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.739 a month for me to heat the house with natural 00:46:08.739 --> 00:46:11.780 gas. Ours is like... That was so nice. We have 00:46:11.780 --> 00:46:15.920 natural gas. Ours is a four bedroom. And I think 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:18.820 it costs me like $130 to heat the house every 00:46:18.820 --> 00:46:22.679 month. So it's not bad. It's not bad. Yeah. No. 00:46:23.019 --> 00:46:25.780 I definitely used to be one of those like wood 00:46:25.780 --> 00:46:28.139 boiler, wood heats all the way. But as I get 00:46:28.139 --> 00:46:32.000 older and lazier, I really don't want to go and 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:35.079 chop wood. And like... You know, a lot of people 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.719 want to go in homestead and do the, like, cut 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.659 wood every year. That takes a huge chunk out 00:46:40.659 --> 00:46:42.780 of your fucking life. Like, when you're cutting. 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.400 Because, basically, once spring comes, you're 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.460 cutting wood pretty much throughout the summer. 00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:52.639 Yep. And into the fall, just to have maybe a 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.519 month or two. Yep. And then you have all of winter 00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:00.230 that you're not cutting wood. Maybe. Maybe. As 00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:02.309 soon as the next spring comes, you're back at 00:47:02.309 --> 00:47:04.849 it. And that's, like, it's literally your life, 00:47:04.869 --> 00:47:06.429 man. Like, you get out of work, that's what you 00:47:06.429 --> 00:47:09.489 go do. My cousin, that's how they heat their 00:47:09.489 --> 00:47:12.730 house. And literally from, like, the time that 00:47:12.730 --> 00:47:15.469 the snow melts to the time that the snow falls, 00:47:15.610 --> 00:47:19.469 all of his free time is cutting wood. Yeah, and 00:47:19.469 --> 00:47:21.570 I don't like it that much anymore. Like, I did 00:47:21.570 --> 00:47:25.570 logging for a few years. I did logging with a 00:47:25.570 --> 00:47:32.480 school for a couple years. And we did 270 face 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:40.420 cord a winter to heat the whole campus because 00:47:40.420 --> 00:47:43.840 they had an outdoor wood boiler that pushed out 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:50.179 to like six or eight cabins. So after doing that 00:47:50.179 --> 00:47:53.179 and then doing a few more years of just doing 00:47:53.179 --> 00:47:56.059 it at home and then doing it as like a business, 00:47:56.300 --> 00:48:00.269 yeah, I'm good. Honestly, pellets are the way 00:48:00.269 --> 00:48:03.789 to go. It's cheaper than most gas. It's cheaper 00:48:03.789 --> 00:48:08.610 than natural gas. Oh, now you're cheaper because 00:48:08.610 --> 00:48:14.050 $150 a month, where we're at, it would be almost 00:48:14.050 --> 00:48:23.070 $280 a month. If you have a good wood pellet 00:48:23.070 --> 00:48:25.489 stove and you have it set up to heat properly. 00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:29.750 Way cheaper than natural gas. Well, yeah. I mean, 00:48:29.750 --> 00:48:32.869 if you have all the right things. Yeah. If you 00:48:32.869 --> 00:48:36.170 sat down and set it up right, it's like easily 00:48:36.170 --> 00:48:38.269 you could heat a house the size of mine for like 00:48:38.269 --> 00:48:44.989 80 bucks. A month? A month. Yep. I don't know. 00:48:45.530 --> 00:48:47.929 I don't know. Have pellets gotten that much more 00:48:47.929 --> 00:48:51.789 expensive? They're almost $8 a bag. Oh, no, they 00:48:51.789 --> 00:48:56.110 have not. At least. They're a dollar more. I 00:48:56.110 --> 00:49:01.469 mean, you go through at least one a day. Depends. 00:49:02.369 --> 00:49:04.730 If you're setting your house at like 80, yeah. 00:49:04.789 --> 00:49:06.710 And if you have one that doesn't auto shut off 00:49:06.710 --> 00:49:10.730 and auto turn on, yes. You are going to spend 00:49:10.730 --> 00:49:15.269 a lot. I don't know. I mean, I'm using them now, 00:49:15.409 --> 00:49:18.309 and we definitely go through a lot more than 00:49:18.309 --> 00:49:20.190 that, and we're not even heating the whole house. 00:49:20.650 --> 00:49:25.099 Is yours? It's radiant heat. Is yours one that, 00:49:25.179 --> 00:49:29.440 does it have a pilot and starts itself, or does 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.460 it just burn nonstop? It has a pilot, starts 00:49:32.460 --> 00:49:35.599 itself, has auto shut off, everything. Huh. Yeah, 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:40.300 I don't know. It's just, I mean, I'm sure it's, 00:49:40.300 --> 00:49:44.539 you know, it was a $2 ,800 stove, so it was a 00:49:44.539 --> 00:49:48.039 little bit more than the cheapest usually, but 00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:51.940 no. super we've got a friend who's got like a 00:49:51.940 --> 00:49:55.659 15 bedroom mansion things fucking massive and 00:49:55.659 --> 00:49:58.179 they spend a little over 130 a month heating 00:49:58.179 --> 00:50:00.800 the whole thing with pellets well yeah he's probably 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.340 got it all plumbed into registers and stuff too 00:50:03.340 --> 00:50:05.280 oh yeah that's setting it up right yeah that's 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:10.119 how his is yeah most most homes don't have it 00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:12.099 plumbed into registers that's what i'm saying 00:50:12.099 --> 00:50:16.019 every home that i've been in if you mean If you 00:50:16.019 --> 00:50:17.980 spend the money and do it right, that can be 00:50:17.980 --> 00:50:22.199 a much more cost -effective option. But on average, 00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:24.960 I'm not going to spend $20 ,000 to get a pellet 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.300 stove set up. Yeah, that's kind of the thing 00:50:28.300 --> 00:50:32.159 is nobody has that. Right. A lot of people, like 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:36.500 I went from wood heat to basically pellet heat, 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.340 and the last three or four of my houses excluding 00:50:40.340 --> 00:50:44.579 the renter's house, which was pellet heat. Not 00:50:44.579 --> 00:50:46.519 the renter's house, but the other ones that have 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.719 been pellet heat. None of them have been set 00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.659 up with air quotations the right way. Yeah. You 00:50:51.659 --> 00:50:56.119 know, they've been set up how pellet stoves typically 00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.940 run, which is usually. You slap it in a room 00:50:59.940 --> 00:51:03.659 and let it radiate. Yeah. I mean, which, like 00:51:03.659 --> 00:51:07.239 I said, it works. I mean, if you have good circulation, 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.539 you have fans and stuff that can push it, it 00:51:09.539 --> 00:51:12.900 definitely helps. But when your house is also. 00:51:13.500 --> 00:51:16.960 super thin and we're losing heat everywhere out 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:19.820 of this basically trail. Of course, that's the 00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:22.239 other thing. That's a huge thing. Your house 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:25.800 has to be insulated really well. I'd say properly 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.219 because the insulation standards have changed 00:51:28.219 --> 00:51:32.719 in the last four years. Yeah. So if you're up 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.019 to code with modern insulation standards, honestly, 00:51:36.059 --> 00:51:37.519 you could almost heat your house with a fucking 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:44.159 candle. Yeah. No, this house is absolutely horrible. 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:52.280 I mean, it's the typical 80s, you know, double 00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.780 -edged. Yeah, I mean, it's paper thin, everything. 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.679 So, I mean, we do well for what it is. Yeah. 00:51:59.960 --> 00:52:02.219 And you know what? They do have a really good 00:52:02.219 --> 00:52:05.460 tax credit for pellet stoves, so we got a good 00:52:05.460 --> 00:52:07.639 chunk of change for buying it because we bought 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.710 the pellet stove for that. So we got a good chunk 00:52:10.710 --> 00:52:12.849 of change back come tax season. That was a big 00:52:12.849 --> 00:52:14.750 tax relief on us. We would have had to pay in 00:52:14.750 --> 00:52:20.389 if not for that. Yeah. Yay. But now that we've 00:52:20.389 --> 00:52:23.849 done 25 minutes of heat your house in the winter 00:52:23.849 --> 00:52:28.369 talk, we're at an hour. A couple more minutes. 00:52:28.630 --> 00:52:31.730 Yeah, no, a couple more minutes though. Saran 00:52:31.730 --> 00:52:34.989 wrap your windows. That actually helps a lot. 00:52:35.469 --> 00:52:39.079 I don't do it, but I know it does. Yeah, window 00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:41.880 plastic helps a lot, especially if you only have 00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:45.659 like single or double pane. Yeah. Or you have 00:52:45.659 --> 00:52:49.659 old windows like farm windows. Definitely helps 00:52:49.659 --> 00:52:53.199 a lot. And surprisingly enough, a lot of people 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.699 with double wides will actually put straw around 00:52:55.699 --> 00:52:59.900 their house and pile snow because snow is actually 00:52:59.900 --> 00:53:04.190 a really good insulator. So food for thought 00:53:04.190 --> 00:53:06.550 for anybody. With double wides specifically, 00:53:07.690 --> 00:53:10.050 the underneath of them, generally that crawl 00:53:10.050 --> 00:53:13.750 space area, if you can insulate that, same thing, 00:53:13.849 --> 00:53:17.010 straw, snow, whatever, that makes a massive difference 00:53:17.010 --> 00:53:20.469 in heat retention. Yeah. Yeah. Because the underside 00:53:20.469 --> 00:53:25.030 of these are basically, you know what? I don't 00:53:25.030 --> 00:53:28.150 think they're insulated at all. No. Underneath. 00:53:28.269 --> 00:53:32.090 Yeah. Nope. They're just sitting on blocks. Yep. 00:53:32.170 --> 00:53:34.929 You lose a lot of heat through the bottom, so. 00:53:35.369 --> 00:53:37.829 Yep. Food for thought. I just figured I'd add 00:53:37.829 --> 00:53:39.550 that in since we did have some other heating. 00:53:39.670 --> 00:53:42.369 Make it like the heating tips section. Yeah. 00:53:42.849 --> 00:53:45.329 A house heating, not even Overland related, just 00:53:45.329 --> 00:53:49.570 house heating. I wonder how much you could save 00:53:49.570 --> 00:53:52.650 by swapping your electric heaters for diesel 00:53:52.650 --> 00:53:56.289 heaters. Well, so I'm going to get a diesel heater 00:53:56.289 --> 00:53:58.630 because we, typically in Michigan winters, we 00:53:58.630 --> 00:54:02.869 do lose power quite a bit. especially our house. 00:54:02.889 --> 00:54:05.210 We've lost it last year probably three times 00:54:05.210 --> 00:54:07.309 or so. Oh, yeah. And everything is hooked on 00:54:07.309 --> 00:54:10.289 electric, so we don't have any gas heating other 00:54:10.289 --> 00:54:14.170 than our stove. And so I'm going to get a diesel 00:54:14.170 --> 00:54:18.250 heater just to heat parts of our house where 00:54:18.250 --> 00:54:19.989 we can actually sleep. The living room, we'll 00:54:19.989 --> 00:54:22.250 just move the couches aside and sleep out there. 00:54:23.369 --> 00:54:26.530 Or we'll use it to actually plumb underneath 00:54:26.530 --> 00:54:30.820 the house to keep the pipes from freezing. And 00:54:30.820 --> 00:54:32.980 we lose power because that's a big thing too. 00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:37.320 We blow pipes all the time. And last time we 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.159 blew a pipe in the winter, we didn't even know 00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.880 it because we don't use that part of the house. 00:54:42.619 --> 00:54:45.420 Like the bathroom, the second bathroom. So then 00:54:45.420 --> 00:54:49.159 your electric bill goes up. Yep. Electric bill 00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.059 went up and we had the whole underside of the 00:54:52.059 --> 00:54:55.059 house was full of water. And then that sogged 00:54:55.059 --> 00:54:59.250 into the foundation. And yeah, so that's. We 00:54:59.250 --> 00:55:01.869 had to replace a bunch of wood. It was horrible. 00:55:03.289 --> 00:55:05.130 It's one of those things where, like, your pipes 00:55:05.130 --> 00:55:08.610 break. That's, like, the worst thing ever. Yeah, 00:55:08.650 --> 00:55:14.369 I have the luxury, I guess you will, of having 00:55:14.369 --> 00:55:18.269 a big, massive 20K generator at the farm, and 00:55:18.269 --> 00:55:20.989 I just run an extension cord up here and plug 00:55:20.989 --> 00:55:24.309 it in and then turn the furnace on. It's very 00:55:24.309 --> 00:55:29.639 safe if you don't think about it. Hey, do what 00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:33.500 you got to do. Yep. All right, guys. I guess 00:55:33.500 --> 00:55:37.119 that's an hour. Yep. I hope you enjoyed Heating 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:42.980 Tips with Gavin. Yep. We'll catch you guys later. 00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:45.119 Yep. Later.