Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk
about everything from gear reviews to trail stories,
tent camping to rock landing, and all things
to do with the outdoors. This is take two. We
actually had a really good intro, but my mic
was doing goofy stuff and turning volume up and
down willy -nilly. So hopefully I sound okay,
listeners. If not, well, blame the machine. But
it is just... Me, I'm Alex, and Mark, that's
the other goofy -sounding guy you hear there.
Just the two of us today. Gavin's off doing Gavin
life stuff, I guess. Uh -huh. Yeah, life just
be lifin', man. Like, when we started the podcast,
I think all of us had a little more free time
than we have now. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like
when, when we started, I didn't even have a kid
like, and I didn't like, I didn't like have my
own kid. Right. I didn't have a, a kid that I
could work up to. No, I started with a three
-year -old. Yep. Just here. You start at three.
You don't get anywhere. You don't get the beginning
stage. You just get three. Fuck man. Yeah. Things
have, things are way different now than when
we started the podcast. Yeah. You know, and,
I didn't mean to set us up with a good topic,
but this is a good topic, man. How do you keep
off -roading when life be life? Oh, man. Yeah,
especially since we did not do a lot of off -roading
this year like we were originally planning. We
really didn't. So we've been building out our
vehicles because we just had so many issues that
we've had with the vehicles last year. So we
were like, ah, let's work on them. And then it
just became more and more work as we worked on
them. Yeah. And spoiler alert, the 4Runner is
ticking. I noticed that in the McDonald's drive
-thru today. I'm hoping it's like last time and
a spark plug decided to get loose because for
whatever reason, this 4Runner likes to loosen
its spark plugs. I forgot about that. Yeah, so
I'm hoping that's what's going on. But what do
you do? But yeah, I mean, the best advice I can
give to keep off -roading when your life be lifin'
is you just have to make it a priority. In a
year, let's say you get out three times. That's
three times you got out. Yeah. I mean, there's
no shame in taking time off. No, and I know not
everyone has trails nearby, so it's kind of hard
just to get away on a quick weekend like we can
do for the most part. Farm. Fucking farm. Yeah.
But, I mean, we planned our... trips around our
work schedule usually we do it where we take
one or two days at the end of the week go through
the weekend and may or may not take a monday
off just to recoup i never get that luxury i
know you don't recoup day i know you don't every
day is a work day for alex i don't even get weekends
man this is fucking bullshit yeah Oh, and there's
some completely off topic, but it's something
weighing heavy on me. Some really scary news.
There were over a dozen birds found dead at the
Muskegon County Waste Management Plant. Oh. No,
Water Treatment Plant. Oh. Phone's ringing. BRB.
Phone is definitely ringing. I guess I got to
figure out what to do here. on the topic of building
out stuff i i know i think i've said it before
but it is still i can't believe how much of a
difference my truck has been since getting rid
of the old bumper on the rear that thing was
heavy and i have gotten so many more compliments
for this truck than i have previously last year
i'm still weird to think about it that way but
Definitely a very unique truck now. Also on that
note, we haven't, I don't think we've discussed
it on here, but I have joined Alex in the sticker
bomb. My right fender is sticker bombed. Pretty
good. Oh, there's Alex coming back. Yeah, I'm
totally going to cut that, like, however long.
I kind of did a filler, so, but you can get rid
of it. So, yeah, I got. I'll leave your filler
then. Can you hear me in the background? Probably.
I heard you in the background. Yeah. Okay, so
somewhere in here, you listeners will come back
into the story, but there were over a dozen birds
found dead at the Muskegon County Water Treatment
Facility. Generally, when we have over a dozen
dead birds found, that is considered, it's usually
an AI situation. avian influenza or bird flu,
whatever you want to call it. Yeah. That's all
fine and dandy, except it's the first time this
year that that has happened in Michigan. And
it happens to be less than 10 miles from my house.
Oh, that plan. Gotcha. So I have, I am in the
danger zone right now of avian influenza. And
honestly, okay. Obviously I don't want, I don't
want bird flu, right? But if I'm going to get
bird flu on the farm, I need it to be, like,
right now. Yeah. I only have one flock. I haven't
added any more. My entire farm is empty. So if
I'm going to get it, now is the absolute best
possible time for me to get it. Yeah. And I always
would rather my farm get it than the other nine
farms in my company. Yeah. Because they're all
within a mile or so of each other. So if any
of them get it. Everybody has it. And obviously
I want to see my company do well. So I would
rather my tiny little farm that's off on its
own get hit than one of the big farms. Because
all the other farms have 100 ,000 plus birds.
Yeah. I have 40 ,000 when I'm full. Right now
I've got 8 ,300. So, yeah, it's a scary life
piece. It's getting really hard to farm turkeys,
man. Like, because, you know, we had the MG thing
earlier this year, so we had to empty out the
farm. We killed two flocks? I think we killed
two flocks. Yeah, I think you said you killed
two. So, I mean, that's a lot of loss, man. And
then to have this AI thing ever -present just
hovering over us, like, the amount of stuff that
we have to do to keep birds healthy now is just...
It's ridiculous. Yeah. I had an audit. Yeah.
We're recording a day late because of my audit,
guys. I had an audit on Wednesday about my biosecurity
practices, and I passed with flying colors. Now,
that being said, there's only so much you can
do for biosecurity. So at what point? at what
point is it not worth farming turkeys anymore
is what i'm getting at here you know like at
what point is it not financially viable yeah
i was about to say at what point is it not financially
viable like you said and when we hit that point
what happens do we lose turkey as a food option
do we have to start importing it from other countries
where they don't give a damn so now you've got
sick birds all the time like it's This shit's
scary, man. And it's not just us. I think it's
North or South Dakota has nine farms with AI
right now. Oh, jeez. I'm assuming those are way
bigger than what you guys' pump out. Yeah, they've
already had multiple cases since September of
2025. So, I mean, that's happening quick over
there. Yeah. It doesn't tell me how big they
are, so that's inconvenient. And the thing I
really don't understand is we don't hear about
small farms getting it, right? We don't hear
about Joe Smoe, who's got 50 chickens in his
backyard, getting AI. How many of those farms
are actually sick and just getting wiped out
and nobody knows, you know? It's just scary times.
And a lot of this... Right now, let me take my
official hat off and put on my opinion hat. Wow,
this became a turkey talk show. I'm so sorry,
guys. We didn't have a great topic today. I haven't
been wheeling much because of turkeys, so turkeys
are what I'm thinking of. Honestly, this avian
influenza outbreak increase that we're seeing
now, or even it spreading to cows, all of that,
it started when countries like Mexico, the UK,
they started to give vaccines for avian influenza
to their birds. And it seems like every time
that we add a vaccine of some kind, it just creates
a mutation. And it gets worse for us. We can't
ever get ahead. It just mutates and becomes something
else. Yeah. I'm not a bioscientist. I'm not a
chemist. Wait, that's not even the right group
here. I'm not someone who has any degree in this
or knows anything. I just can look at what we
do with our birds and see that the vaccine we
use this year, the following year, we need a
whole different vaccine because it's now mutated.
And how often can we chase a mutation before
it just becomes something we can't treat? Yeah.
And I'm kind of worried that that's where we're
at with AI and we make it stronger every time
we vaccinate for it. Of course, the birds that
spread it are what? Geese. Where do geese go?
Canada to Mexico. Yep. So they're getting it
in Mexico with this new strain and then bringing
it up here and everything we've ever done to
treat it doesn't work. Yep. I just, it worries
me, man. I don't think we've got an epidemic
on the rise or anything. I mean, it doesn't get
to people, but. Yeah. We just might have an issue
of food shortage. Yeah, and maybe that's all
in the plan. I mean, we all know I'm a government
skeptic. I always joke that they're going by
with fogger machines and fogging my birds with
MG. That's how they got sick. You are very suspicious.
He's like, you see this farmer over here who's
working his ass off every day? Let's make his
life harder. No. Oh, no, man. I just... Sorry
to do ten -ish minutes of turkey talk. We should
start a turkey talk radio. That would be fucking
sick, dude. Maybe we could get my boss to be
a sponsor and we could have the Walcott's official
Turkey Talk Radio. I wonder how many episodes
we'll get of that one. One a year. One a year.
What's your yearly quota now this year? Yeah,
no, life's just been lifin', man. I know you've
had a lot of shit going on. We haven't even done
working weekends every weekend. No, we have not.
Mark's like, fuck this guy. Yeah, because the
last one we actually majorly did was Labor Day.
I'm trying to think, what have I done to my 4Runner
that we haven't talked about? Oh, my Rock Lights.
Your Rock Lights. You just put those on this
weekend. Yeah, I got some Switchback. Yeah, yeah.
I did some switchback rock lights, so they switch
between amber and white. And it's a true amber.
Like, it's pretty. Yep. I think they were, like,
$70. I swear I added a mile and a half of wire
to my truck, dude. Like, oh, my God. I mean,
to be fair, I did have a lot of wire that I cut
off because I had to cut them off and put them
in the holes I drilled. Yeah. But, no, I mean,
I'm impressed with them. The big thing I wanted
was I wanted switchbacks because I want amber
so I look cool in the Instagram reels. But I
wanted white so that when I break something on
the truck, I can just turn a rock light on and
be able to see whatever I'm working on without
having to hold a light or a headlamp or any of
that shit. Yeah, and I think it would help us
at working at night on the vehicle instead of
having, oh, we need a flashlight over here. No,
we need it over here. You can get at least. 20
of the truck lit up you can work on other areas
without a flashlight yeah everything top down
man i mean i've got two two leds per wheel well
two on the front and two on the rear the two
on the front and two on the rear they're not
helpful at all but i got a 12 pack and had to
have somewhere to put them so yeah that's where
they ended up so now we need to put a light underneath
your hood I do have some ideas on that. I'm thinking
about running some type of waterproof USB -C
or something. I want to do a USB -C mag light
with a battery on it that I can magnet under
the hood so I can see just by lifting the hood,
but then I can just pull it off real quick and
use it when I need it. That's actually not a
bad idea. I just saw a product like that. I just
don't remember where I saw it at. That's kind
of what I've been thinking. And less wires to
run. Yeah. And we can move underneath the truck
if we needed more lighting somewhere. Yeah. So
I had a, back in high school, I had an 88 Chevy
pickup, C1500. And it had a light under the hood
with a long cord. that would reach all the way
to the back of the truck so if you had to like
change a tire you could just grab the the light
from the engine bay pull it around and it had
like a little ratchet system so like i want that
but wireless yeah um yeah so i mean forerunner
lighting's coming along i don't have a whole
lot to do the forerunner now um Like I said,
it's ticking. I think it's just probably a spark
plug. It just needs tightened. Yep. I also have
a sinking suspicion that my lower control arm
bushings are bad. Oh. Which I'm not surprised.
They're white line bushings, but they were in
the lower control arm when we took it off the
crawler. Okay, I was about to say, we didn't
replace the lower ones. We only did the uppers,
right? Yep. And I tested the uppers. They seem
fine. Because I recently had to do wheel bearings.
Yeah. But I didn't test the lowers at that time.
So next situation would be that. Just maintenance,
man. I still have that hole in my frame that
your brother needs to patch before wintertime.
Uh -huh. Oh, since we pretty much chopped the
inner fender well, I just need to get the bracket
relocated from C4. It's like 200 -something.
For what? The cab mount relocate. Oh, cool. So
I can fit bigger tires. That's convenient. Because
originally I was looking at a kit that had the
inner, pretty much you lift the fender liner
up a little bit to match for the bigger tires.
Yeah, that's the other thing I put off getting
35s and just bought a 33 to replace my dry rotted
one. Same tire, just it's used even with a little
bit of wear, so it's similar to the ones I have
on there. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, 4Runner's doing
4Runner things. I still need to get some 2x4s
and redo my table slide just to make it prettier.
Yeah. I think I might throw some carpet over
that at some point. actually you're running carpet
um do you still want that rubber latch that i
got for mine since i have that spare yeah like
i do but at the same time mine doesn't move no
i'm about saying you have a door to block it
from moving so yeah so i'm not overly worried
about it we'll see what happens when we go wheeling
and maybe it bounces out and hits the door and
drives me nuts But don't throw the latch away.
We might have a use for it. Yeah, no, I don't
plan on throwing it away, especially if I had
something happen to mine I got a spare one to
swap it out with. Duncan's been working on that
roof rack project. I'm probably going to end
up doing a roof rack pretty soon. Okay. Because
I would like to be able to throw the swag on
something. Because right now I put the swag up
there. and yeah i can strap it down in two spots
but it just kind of sits on the roof of my truck
it does and floats it doesn't have a solid mount
all the way across it does not have a solid mount
at all yeah i uh i still think the swag's the
way to go man um i mean i like having something
that packs down smaller is very nice don't don't
get it twisted no um but Overall, I mean, I like,
I just unroll my tent, and there's somewhere
for all three of us to sleep. Like, it's fucking
killer. Yeah. For your situation, if you didn't
have camp solo, it works for you. Yeah, and if
I, like I said, I want to look for some type
of cargo box for the roof to put it in, because
that way I can protect it a little. Yeah. But,
I mean, overall, it just works. Uh, the dog did
have his first accident in the dog swag because
neither I nor Kaylin remembered he had to go
outside when we got home today. Oh no. Yeah.
So he pissed and shit all over in there. But
with that bathtub, it was super easy to clean
up. Like we just took the shit out, wiped it
down. Boom. It was done. Nice. So 23, zero. Still
makes good product, even if their chair sucks.
Oh, dude, I got to ship that out. What's the
date today? I believe the 18th. I got to ship
that out, like, tomorrow. I think I've got until
the 23rd. Let me check that. Yeah, like. I think
you heard that conversation. It's just how they
made that base. It should be spread out like
your team. Yeah. Like the chair itself, the material
way better than the team. Oh, a hundred percent.
And even the frame itself, it's so solid and
well built. Yup. And then it's just the tippiest
damn chair you've ever sat in. Just needs a different
layout. Everything else is fine. Just a different
layout. I really want, they've got these, I typed
in 23 -0 and it showed me everything but 23 -0.
They've got this other one I really like. It's
like a bungee folding chair, basically. But the
problem is, it's too freaking big for the 4Runner.
Yeah. It's what I always run into. So, eventually,
I'll get another chair and solve it. But right
now, I'm just rocking my little Timu chairs.
Yep. They work for you. That's all that matters.
Yeah. I wish that someone made a more comfortable
small pack -up chair. That would be killer. Yeah.
Because, again, Forerunner does not have much
space at all. Nope. Yeah, I mean, I haven't even
bought gear, man. I've been... Man, I think this
is the most non -off -roady I've been in a long
time. I've been working on merch. Go check out
our merch store. Oh, yeah. I added t -shirts
today. I don't even know what's on the public
store. I'm actually working on a hockey jersey.
Okay, yeah, the only thing I've added is a T
-shirt, but I misspelled it, so it's a T -shire.
T -shire. Originally, I was going to say the
hockey jerseys for yearly. I'm like, wait a minute,
this is a long sleeve. It's going to suck during
the summertime. No, but if we did the year that...
Man, let's not talk about yearly shirts. We can't
talk too much. Yeah, I know. We can't talk too
much. Unless you think we can do the hockey.
I think we can. We just have to have two that
year. One for winter and one for summer. Oh,
okay. I can see that. Yeah, I think it would
work. Yeah, so right now our public store is
pretty small. We've got a t -shirt, the license
plate, the flag, the Hawaiian shirt, a hoodie,
and then a bunch of small stuff. Yep. I mean,
it's worth checking out, man. We're adding new
stuff pretty regularly. We've got... I don't
even know if I have the botches internal pulled
up. Yeah, we've got a trucker hat, which is a
Richardson 112, because I know a lot of people
think that's important that that's what it is,
but we got one of those that's currently on the
docket to get tested. I like that maroon and
gold. I do, too. Gavin had a really good point
about making the logo gold. I think Shane rocked
that a lot in his rig. It matches Shane's truck.
It does. Yeah, I haven't decided if I want the
army green one or the maroon one, but they're
both fucking sick, dude. And then I think...
We've got a denim jacket on the internal, and
I really need to order one because I need a coat
anyway. But that's quickly going to be $100.
Yeah. I think that's really all we've got that's
going to become customer -facing, though. Maybe
if someone ever orders the underwear and makes
sure it's comfortable. Maybe I'll order those
too. I'm kind of tired of the idea of bomber
jackets. I just haven't decided the theme style.
I was thinking like NASCAR racing almost. Yeah,
bombers would be sick. It's just anything that's
expensive like that, I'm scared because I almost
don't want to order it to test it. Yeah. And
then sizing is a lot. It's kind of hard because
a lot of that only goes up to 2XL. Well, we're
all big guys. Yeah. Except Shane. Shane's, you
know, a bean, but... Uh -huh. For the most part,
all of us botches, we're pretty good -sized people.
Yeah, we are. But yeah, merch store's cool. Go
check out the merch store. Mm -hmm. Has anything
new even happened in the off -road space? I feel
like it's kind of been like a dead area lately.
Uh... I guess you want to deal with King of the
Hammers and their flight space because the Marines
are trying to expand their testing grounds. Dude,
that shit's fucking crazy. And if you think about
it, right, so the Marines are trying to take
over the airspace, only the airspace, right?
Yeah, it's just the airspace. And you're like,
it's like, ah, big deal, right? Like, we do stuff
on the ground. Well, let's say... I don't know.
Jim, Jim Buffett, right? He's out bombing around
in his Ranger and he rolls his Ranger and gets
pinned. We can't call a helicopter in to rescue
him now. Nope. Like it's not just, it's not just
a filming situation or no, uh, it's fully. It's
a safety problem to take away the airspace. Yeah,
both safety and you got your small airfields
around that area are going to get affected by
it. Even, I think, commercially is being affected.
Yeah, I... The Marines have been trying to take
over the King of the Hammers area for quite a
while, dude. Like, Johnson Valley is always under
attack. Yep. But... I know for a long time they
had, like, some kind of working relationship
with the Marines, and it just, it feels out of
the blue for them to be pulling this crap like
this. Well, yeah, and, like, if I understood
right, they only train, like, 20 % of the year
out for that area. Yeah. So it's not worth trying
to shut down the whole airspace just for 20 %
of the year. Oh. What? GME radios are officially
launched in the U .S. Oh. Is that the Australian
ones? Yeah, that's the Australian GMRS radios
that are, like, step above Midland, like, way
above Midland. That's kind of cool. But they
show upgrades? Yeah, because they even... So
the cool thing about GME is they're like our
Midland MXTs where the box can be mounted anywhere.
Yeah. It's the same setup. The only problem is
I don't think it uses a cat five cable. Oh, it
does. It totally uses a cat five cable. So we
can literally put the box anywhere and then just
run a cord for the mic like that. All right.
I bet they're expensive. Probably. Very likely,
hence the reason why we still have the T -75s.
Yeah, the MXC 275s. Yeah, 275s, yeah. Yeah, I'm
just scrolling off -road news to see if there's
anything, like, worth talking about. I'm trying
to think if there's anything else. Like, I'm
telling you, dude, it's been kind of a dead space
lately. Yeah. Oh, shit. Nest out just, or nest
out. You remember those really cool flashlight
battery banks I showed you a while ago? Yes.
I think I know what you're talking about. That
brand just came out with a new power bank that's
way better than any of the other ones I've seen.
Oh. Not that... I'm pulling it up right now.
Not that I have any real interest... Oh, it's
not official yet. It's just been announced. These
assholes. Yeah, this sucks, man. I want to sit
here and tell everyone all the cool new off -road
news, but there ain't none. It's that time of
year, you know? We get into that dead time. And
it's not really dead time. People are going to
events. Overland of America just happened. Yeah,
we had Core. yep core but it just it's not the
stuff that we get to go do because we're broke
bitches and can't get time off work so yeah that's
more over that's way more overland than off -road
i'd say but it counts it does yeah i uh i got
a couple so i put in With 23 .0 to be a brand
ambassador. Uh -huh. Because I was talking to
a guy who said I should, one of the 23 .0 guys.
Yeah. And they only accept you if you have, like,
5 ,000 followers on Instagram. Oh. So go like
me on Instagram, guys. I'd appreciate it. And
Alex needs to start posting more Reels of Daily
now. That is why I'm trying to buy a new phone.
Because as much as I love my flip phone, it's
time to step away from it, I think. We should
wheel every weekend, even if it may or may not
be the same area. Just to get different footage.
Yeah. I think we're going to go Friday, right?
Yep. Go do a little bit Friday night. I don't
know about being recording or anything, but...
Get out and talk about it. It's all stuff we've
done. That's the problem. And it's also nighttime.
It's kind of hard to record nighttime footage
half the time. We just got to get better gear.
Yeah. But, you know, wherever you're at right
now, it just changed your sound so much. Oh,
I just leaned back, so that's probably why. No,
it sounded good. Oh. Yeah, we really should.
I want to look at some cameras, but I don't want
to get GoPros because they hate me, apparently.
And I break them. Yeah, who breaks GoPros? Not
like they get dropped from planes or anything.
I'm looking to see if there's a lot on eBay of
just a bunch of GoPros someone's selling. There's
a lot of 10 that are all for repair, and they're
all Hero 8 Blacks like mine, and they all look
like they have the same problem mine does. So
that's cool. Sounds like they also have an issue
with customer service. They do, dude. That's
why I'm not the biggest fan. Like, GoPro 10 years
ago was great. Yeah. GoPro today, eh. They're
eh. Yeah. I don't know. We'll get something around.
I do want to start doing some more stuff with
YouTube, so. Yeah. Make some better videos than
the crappy one I put out already. Oh, I need
to do that still. Since you did it. The walk
around? Yeah, the walk around. It's so hard.
Like. The recording is fine. Yeah. I wouldn't
necessarily do it here because I have a lot of
road noise, and you do at home as well. We could
probably get away with the backside of my dad's
field. Mm -hmm. Probably do some recording back
there. Yeah, we could always go out to our cords
and calf area we did. That would work as well.
Mixed point would not be a terrible option. Yeah,
I'm trying to remember the name of it. Quartz
and calf was great, man. I can't wait until we
do another one of those. Yeah. I wish we had
time to run up to the spot we're talking about
for a couple weeks from now. Yeah, yeah. Because
we need to get that coordinate out soon. Yep,
we sure do. Advertise it, apparently, too. Yeah.
That way no one thinks that we're leaving them
out of the loop. Yeah. Oh, man. The drama that
goes on in off -roading, dude. It's fucking ridiculous.
Like, we're just a bunch of people trying to
get out in the woods. Why does there have to
be drama surrounding that? Yeah. There's no point
of it. What do I got marked here? Oh, hey. From
42625, I have a coordinate or a waypoint that
says tire, pick up later. We never picked it
up later. I forgot about that. I feel like there's
another one or two for that route, too, that
we saw when you took off from the bathroom. Hey,
at least we marked the trash. At least we marked
the trash, even if we didn't pick the trash up.
Yep. God, we're terrible people. To be fair,
you were in a rush to get to a bathroom. Probably.
That sounds pretty accurate. And then I was leading
the group training, remember how to get back
to camp. Oh, yeah, because that's the one where
I just, like, floored it. Yes, you're just like,
God. I'm like, oh, they definitely need to go
to the bathroom. Yeah. Huh. Looks like there's
a new trail up in Everett. Oh? It's called Westside
Everett. It's by Ups and Downs. Hmm. Yeah, we
have definitely never been here before. Intriguing.
Sounds like we do need to get up there then.
Check that out as well. Maybe we have. This mud
hole looks familiar. Oh. Oh, this is the one
with the vagina trail. Oh. Yeah, we've been there
before. Yeah. No longer has a placard. Yeah,
no longer has a placard. Someone stole that.
Stole it and they're like, oh, this is profanity.
Get out of here. Yeah, Everett's pretty great,
man. For something that's semi -local that just
has good stuff. Yeah. You can't do much better
than that. I'd like to get a little farther north,
but there's still stuff down here in Manistee
we haven't seen. I know. We were talking to our
coworker about we talked about going to Grayling,
but we just have not gotten a chance to get up
that way. Yeah, and Grayling's fine and all.
I've wheeled a bit up in Grayling. It's just
sand and, like, that's it. It's just sand. Yeah.
It's nothing we don't get down here, so it's
hard for me to be like, yo, we have to do this.
I've heard there's quite some gnarly hill climbs,
though, but other than that, that's about it.
Yeah, we got those in Nuevo County. I know. There's
definitely a lot. I guess when my coworkers were
up there, the army was trying to get a low boy
up the one sand hill that runs across the pipeline.
Like, yeah, I don't think that would be climbing
that hill anytime soon. All right, dude. What
do you think? We're at 40 minutes. You think
that's good enough to call it? There's just not
much to talk about. Yeah, I think we about ran
this dry. And I don't want the listeners to just
have to sit and listen to us talk about fucking
nothing. We can talk about that weird -ass room
you're in, though. Oh. Yeah, the... The wannabe
desert room? Yeah, the wannabe desert room is
the best way to describe it. Like, it is the
weird... Someone painted these red mountains
all the way around this room. Like, it's weird.
And the lines are not even rock -looking. It
just looks like, um... Heartbeat monitors. Yeah.
What's that white thing to your left? Is that
a projector screen? That's a projector screen.
Cody was using it for his projector. Damn, Cody.
That's been there for a minute. Yes. I could
use that often. That's why it's a good spot for
you to record. It also, for whatever reason,
sounds the best. Yeah. I know it's... Plywood
wall, cement floor. I think it's just spaced
just enough and doesn't have cement walls all
the way around, so it's not really echoey. I
get a little bit of echo, but nothing crazy.
No, but compared to the small room I was in where
I had a cement wall right in front of me, and
that was a small one. That room sucks. Yeah.
All right, man. I will catch you later. I'll
catch the listeners later. Thanks for listening
to us talk about literally nothing to do with
off -road. And someday we will get out and be
big boys again and do stuff and then we can talk
about it. Yep. So, I will catch you guys later.
Later.