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Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk

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about everything from gear reviews to trail stories,

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tank camping to rock landing, and all things

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to do with the outdoors. And it's a wrap, boys.

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I hope you heard that, listeners. I hope you

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heard that. Wait, wait, wait. Let me get mine

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out. Before we go into the wrap, which I guess

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it kind of does fall into the wrap, I have the

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Cider Mill Donut by Blake's Hard Cider. I've

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been saving it since this weekend when Mark gave

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it to me just to try it out today. So let's get

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the crack here. Ooh. It's not a crisp. Mm, smells

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like, I do smell like cidery donut in it. Yeah,

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dude, it's really. That is not bad. Right? No.

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Okay. It was a gamble, and Alex was like, I don't

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know about this. And we cracked him like, oh,

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my God, this is the best decision. It's so good.

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It almost tastes like, yeah, a little bit of

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caramel, a little bit of apples, kind of what

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I get out of it. I think it tastes like Christmas,

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which is supposed to be fall, but I just taste

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Christmas. Yeah, that's weird. It's not bad.

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I would give it, on my scale, which people that

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do listen know that I'm not a big alcohol guy,

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but on my scale, I'd give it like a solid 6 .5,

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7 out of 10. Okay, so last time we had you taste

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test a beer, it was a brapple. Which one's better?

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Oh, this by far. By far. The brapple would have

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been like a 3. We need to like... We need to

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get Blake's to realize how great they are and

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how great we are and then start sending us beer

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and sponsoring us. Yeah. Yeah, you know the flavors.

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It's weird because it's almost coffee house -ish.

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Yeah. I almost get like coffee house. It's weird

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to say that, and I'm definitely not one of those

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connoisseurs that's like, do you hear the wood

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notes? From the proper beige. I don't do that.

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I actually have really poor taste buds, but that's

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just the vibes I get from it. I guess I could

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taste a little donut. I definitely get some apple.

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It's definitely sweet, but the alcohol's at the

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back of the tongue, so it's not bad. Very drinkable.

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Yes, very drinkable. I think I really... Out

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of the stuff I like the best, like I like Red's.

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They had like a Red's, their ciders, and the

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blueberry. They have like a blueberry cider.

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Not very often. That is my favorite Red's. And

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they had it like four years ago, and I haven't

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seen it since. Yeah. Yeah, actually. I really

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like the blueberry, though. But this is higher

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up there as far as alcohols I've tasted, especially

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lately. Hasn't been on. A whole lot. People have

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been giving me straight shots of, like, bourbon

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and stuff at camp, and it's not. They're like,

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do you taste that? Isn't that good? And I'm like,

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I taste, like, ass. Like, alcohol ass. Like,

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I don't taste anything but alcohol. Which is

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funny. I think you would have enjoyed the sangria

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that we had at our wedding. Not our wedding.

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Sangria, man. Yeah. Congrats, Mark and Alex,

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by the way. The wedding we were a part of. No,

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that dude. I'm not a wine fan, right? Like actually

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very much so despise wine. That sangria that

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Taylor had made for her wedding. Oh my God. I

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drank like half of the jug that was pre -made.

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Sangrias. I really like Bloody Marys that are

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a little lighter on the vodka. But, or is it

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tequila or vodka? You can do both. You can do

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both. Traditional is vodka. I do like the spicy.

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Spicy ones. I like Bloody Marys as long as there's

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a sausage in it. Because if there ain't a sausage,

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it ain't worth it. You hear that first. Congrats

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on the marriage. He only likes Bloody Marys with

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wieners in it. No, I've been different, dude.

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Usually I drink a lot of beer, but lately, for

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whatever reason, I've had so much liquor in the

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last three weeks. Yeah. I like a good mixed drink,

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like a Jack and Dr. Pepper or something. I'm

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good with as long as you get the mixture right.

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I used to do Jameson and Baja Blast Mountain

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Dew. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to do that,

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but it's just like there's a certain time and

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place for me. I can't. do like the podcast and

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drink like this at the podcast. I can't go grab

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like a mixed drink like that. Oh, I can sit now

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at the campfire and I'm like, yeah, okay. I'll

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do a drink or two. I could sit here doing shots.

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Uh, I actually was thinking about, we could do

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like, I want to do a drinking game over the podcast,

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but I haven't quite figured out what I want to

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do yet. So. Because I think it'd be so fun, dude.

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Update, the burps taste just as good. That actually

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tasted almost better because there wasn't any

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alcohol behind it. Like, we could do something

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like, I don't know, if you've had this happen,

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take a shot kind of thing. Or to try to... Get

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us off of a bad... Fuck, I just did it there.

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To get us off of bad... Damn it. I did it again.

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Anytime we say uh, you have to take a shot. I

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love this idea. That would be so... I would be

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fucking wasted on... Like, I have such a bad...

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Like, I was deleting uhs before today for my

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podcast, and it's like... I'm going through it,

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and I'm like, oh, my gosh, stop it. It's not

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a space killer. I could just not talk and cut

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it out. What am I doing? I think it's funny.

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So, like, I was talking to you. Yeah. You know,

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I'll go get vodka. I'm down. You'd be so fucked.

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I was talking to Jimmy, and he was saying how,

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you know, he goes through and cuts out all the

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uhs. And I was like, dude, just try not doing

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it once. And he didn't do it three times, and

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nobody noticed, including me, who was specifically

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listening for the stuff to get cut out. I forgot

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about this conversation. I mean, I don't cut

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them all out, but it's like the ones where I

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use them as a pause, like a break. I'll be talking,

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and so all you have to do is this, and then you

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can do this. If I cut it out and it makes zero

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difference in the conversation, that's kind of

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where I'm like, okay, this is a useless. See,

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it's a useless break. Yeah. I wouldn't play that

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game because I would be fucking sloshed so fast.

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We could do like a half hour episode talking

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about who knows what. It'd be so fun, dude. I

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would need like a 15 minute one just so I could

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wake up the next day. Because I wouldn't be able

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to function. I'd be that messed up. I do it so

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much, and I caught myself. I swear to God I deleted,

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like, 30 uhs in, like, the three episodes I recorded

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earlier today. They weren't even long ones. I

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was just doing update episodes and just making

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sure I had stuff, you know, pushed out onto that

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page since I've been so busy. Speaking of busy,

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let's get into our rap for our last week. Guys,

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we all have the same rap. Yeah? Yeah. Been a

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while since we've done that. I don't think we've

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all had the same rap in a minute. Probably since

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the last time we had the Botches camp out. Yeah.

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Mm -hmm. So yeah, we did Chords and Calf, the

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inaugural Chords and Calf. Mm -hmm. I think it

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went well. Yep. Yeah, I think it was good. Yeah.

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I think for what is typically the... Like the

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topic, cords and calf, like the typical category

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that that's in, I think we did very well because

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people stayed pretty much the whole time. Well,

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dude. Oh, yeah. And you don't get that kind of

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engagement. People usually stay for an hour.

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People were here from when we started at 12 until

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I think I left at like 6 .30. We didn't leave

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till 8. Right. So, I mean, all in all, it was.

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It was good, man. We had a fire. We had chairs

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by the fire. It was basically like camp, but

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with donuts, coffee, and everybody chilling and

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checking out each other's rigs. Yep. Yep. And

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one thing I noticed that was interesting is like,

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so you go to Rigs and Coffee and you end up with

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like 20 different little groups that are all

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broke off together. We didn't really have that.

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We had a lot of... Full group conversations.

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A couple of small little break -offs, but...

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I'd like to say at most we had three separate

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groups at one time, but other than that, it kept

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getting reformed back to one group. Do you want

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to... Not to change subjects, but I just got

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a message from my wife. Do you guys want to try

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a new segment real quick? What's that? It's called

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Mystery Mail Call. Okay. I got a random package

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through UPS, and I haven't ordered anything.

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Let's do it. Oh. All right. All right. So mystery

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mail call for the viewers. Uh -oh. Sienna says

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she knows what it is, and it was extremely fast.

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I don't know what it is. Super. Oh, holy shit.

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So I won a giveaway with Super E, the light company.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That was like a day

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or two ago. They're in. Nice. Holy shit. That

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is the fastest shipping I've ever had. You probably

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shipped it right away before they even announced

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the winners. Oh, my God, dude. I've never had

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that happen. So let me just open this up real

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quick. I'm going to rip the box because I don't

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have a knife on me. Here, let me just pass you

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mine through the string. I got this. This box

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is tough. It's made in China. Because I've been

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sitting here combing my beard with it the whole

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time. Sold as a set. So there's three boxes that

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say sold as a set. I'm going to pass it up to

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the camera for the guys. Okay. Okay. So let's

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pull out the first one. I don't know what these

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are. Oh. These are not. These are. There's more

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than three of them. Oh. Okay. Rock lights? They

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could be rock lights. Oh, shit. Yeah, I think

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they're rock lights, dudes. That's exactly what

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they are. Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck. Okay, so I got...

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A little nicer than the ones I put on the back

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of mine, but they look good. I got some connectors.

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Let's see how many I got. I guess eight. Six

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or eight. So I got, I think it's six. So three,

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four, five, six. Yep, six. Holy shit, dude. That's

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perfect because I really didn't need any other

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lights. A large wire. What do you call that?

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Lume? Harness? Harness. Looks like it has one

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button. Ooh, I don't know, boys. We might have

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to do this at your... No, it's all connected

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by one. So I think if I splice the wire, I can

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just run this to my... Switch panel? Yeah, because

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it's got the button right here. But if I just

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take that out... Yep. And wire before that...

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Is this one colored, not multicolored? Yeah,

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I don't even know. So it's got some backers.

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Yeah. Yeah, I don't even know yet. It's got a

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remote. What the fuck? It's not one color. Yeah,

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but I'll say you got a remote. It's not one color.

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God damn. Oh, yeah. That's a lot of fucking buttons,

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boys. You're going to be partying. I don't know.

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So I don't know. Can I do that then? Yeah, you

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should. I might have to keep that switch, right?

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You should be able to run main power into the

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switch panel and then use the remote for the

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rest. Well, yep. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot. IP68

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rated. Oh, there's app control too. God damn.

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Yep, and they have some directions for, I think,

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wiring it to the switch panel. I need to, like,

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get on these giveaways. Fuck. I don't know what

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these are even priced at, to be honest, but free

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rock lights. For six of them? RGB is going to

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be a little more expensive type because it's

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being multicolored. Yeah. I'm going to do these

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underneath, and I'll just keep the ambers and

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stuff for some area lighting. I don't really

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have any colors. I'm not banging out with light

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blue or anything on my shiny rims, which is a

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joke to anyone who's ever seen my rims because

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they're spray -painted black. You can find a

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red to match your berry. That wouldn't be bad.

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It might look purple, though. All right, so that's

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a fun segment. We need to do that more often.

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I mean, on that case, it's not really a mystery

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mail call, but our flag is here. Oh, yeah, you

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did get your flag. Yeah, it's a mail call. There

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you go. Yeah, I added that to the official store.

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So, listeners, go to our store. It's in the show

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notes down below. And buy our junk. We have cool

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junk, and you should buy our junk. And we want

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you to buy it to just have it. It doesn't really

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give us anything because we have it priced low.

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It is priced pretty low. I was going to talk

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about the other item. It's priced really low.

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Like the license plate holder that he just made,

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too. It's not a holder. The license plate. Yeah.

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Yeah. That actually looks like a state plate.

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Like, it's sick, dude. Yeah, I have a holder.

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I have the holder. I didn't do a plate yet. The

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holder's pretty cool. It's just got the topographic

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on it, and then... The three bears on the bottom.

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So it's not super, like, in your face. So that

00:16:24.419 --> 00:16:27.200
website that I used to get the topographic for

00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.059
Skitter Hill, oh, that's the cool thing. All

00:16:29.059 --> 00:16:31.059
the new stuff has the Skitter Hill topographic

00:16:31.059 --> 00:16:34.860
behind it. Yeah. So that's pretty cool. Although

00:16:34.860 --> 00:16:38.580
we don't, like, go out of the way on the item

00:16:38.580 --> 00:16:41.200
to point out that it's Skitter Hill, just knowing

00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.940
that it's Skitter Hill is cool enough. Yeah.

00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.429
Yeah. But that website that I use to get the

00:16:47.429 --> 00:16:49.309
Toppo, I think I'm going to start paying for

00:16:49.309 --> 00:16:52.309
it yearly. It's like $100 a year. And we can

00:16:52.309 --> 00:16:55.909
just get Toppo from anywhere we want in the world.

00:16:56.789 --> 00:16:58.870
Which would be really cool for each Chords and

00:16:58.870 --> 00:17:06.309
Calfs event to do one item, like a sticker, and

00:17:06.309 --> 00:17:08.309
use a Toppo on the background of the sticker

00:17:08.309 --> 00:17:10.170
and just have our Botches logo on the front of

00:17:10.170 --> 00:17:14.410
it. I actually really like that idea. So, yeah.

00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.599
We've got some cool stuff on the store now. We've

00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:21.539
got, just kind of give you a rundown because

00:17:21.539 --> 00:17:24.059
if I don't, maybe you'll hear what you want and

00:17:24.059 --> 00:17:25.859
you'll go get it. So we've got a really cool

00:17:25.859 --> 00:17:28.140
license plate. We've got the really cool flag.

00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.720
Our Hawaiian shirt that everyone seems to want.

00:17:31.859 --> 00:17:35.099
There's one of those on the store now. There

00:17:35.099 --> 00:17:38.599
is a hoodie, which it's a really high quality

00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:41.519
hoodie. It's got our logo embroidered on it instead

00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:44.719
of printed, so it's not going to wear off. You

00:17:44.719 --> 00:17:47.259
can buy our patch. We've got a patch on there,

00:17:47.380 --> 00:17:51.940
a nice beanie. Which I just bought one I got

00:17:51.940 --> 00:17:54.160
to try out this weekend. Yeah, I need to order

00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.819
a new beanie, and I'm going to design a new zippered

00:17:56.819 --> 00:17:59.519
hoodie here soon because I like zippered hoodies,

00:17:59.539 --> 00:18:01.539
and we don't have any on the store right now.

00:18:03.019 --> 00:18:06.279
Then, obviously, you can get our stickers. We've

00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.619
got the all -famous koozie, which I also need

00:18:09.619 --> 00:18:12.440
to buy a new one because I gave mine away. and

00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:15.559
we've got a can -shaped glass with a top and

00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.740
a straw on it, which I use every single night

00:18:18.740 --> 00:18:22.819
next to my bed because if my cups don't have

00:18:22.819 --> 00:18:25.819
tops on them, my cat drinks it all. Yeah, dude.

00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:29.759
What's up with that? They have perfectly good

00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:33.299
water, and our cat knocks over our glass cups

00:18:33.299 --> 00:18:36.259
on the kitchen just to get into the water. They

00:18:36.259 --> 00:18:38.420
put their whole head in it. They're the worst.

00:18:39.140 --> 00:18:42.920
Retarded, man. He knocked it over on all my phones

00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:50.240
and my alarm clock and my e -reader and all that

00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.440
stuff and just soaked everything. I'm like, you

00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:58.559
little cocksucker. Okay. Yeah. So, well, hold

00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:00.500
on. We got to go back now, now that we've got

00:19:00.500 --> 00:19:03.660
our plug in. Hey, yeah, check out HOA2. I have

00:19:03.660 --> 00:19:05.799
a lot of the same things Alex already said. Anyway,

00:19:05.819 --> 00:19:11.000
so back to... Back to our really successful Cords

00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.759
of Calf, dude. Cords of Calf was great. So did

00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.420
we ever get a full count of how many people actually

00:19:17.420 --> 00:19:22.339
showed up? Was it 10, 15? 19. So 19 people. We

00:19:22.339 --> 00:19:26.779
had a couple kids. My kids showed up. Shane's

00:19:26.779 --> 00:19:28.559
kids were there. They were all playing together.

00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:31.579
It was really fun. It was a really good day.

00:19:31.900 --> 00:19:35.039
No rain. It looked like it was going to. It rained.

00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:37.980
It rained at the beginning. Yeah, just for a

00:19:37.980 --> 00:19:39.680
sec. Just before everyone showed up, it rained

00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:41.599
a little bit. But, I mean, throughout the whole

00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:44.000
thing, it didn't. It was good. We had firewood.

00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:46.880
We had a shit ton of donuts that I was not expecting

00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:51.319
were going to be gone through. Oh, my God. I

00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:52.940
should have bought two of those sprinkle ones.

00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:55.160
I knew the kids were going to annihilate it,

00:19:55.180 --> 00:19:58.700
but, jeez, they were gone. It was like, they're

00:19:58.700 --> 00:20:01.720
like $6 a box, and I bought like four of them.

00:20:03.230 --> 00:20:06.009
I came back, getting four. I'm like, cool, I'll

00:20:06.009 --> 00:20:08.329
have extra for a couple of days. I went in there.

00:20:08.369 --> 00:20:10.470
Towards the end of the event, there was two left

00:20:10.470 --> 00:20:13.049
out of every single box, even the ones that Mark

00:20:13.049 --> 00:20:17.390
got. I was like, God damn. We went through almost

00:20:17.390 --> 00:20:22.289
two whole coffee things from whatever coffee

00:20:22.289 --> 00:20:25.910
shop that was. Big B. Big B. Big B's. Duncan

00:20:25.910 --> 00:20:29.990
got the good shit. Yeah, I was really happy with

00:20:29.990 --> 00:20:35.549
it. Yeah. And in the future, you'll just have

00:20:35.549 --> 00:20:38.309
to watch our show notes. And I think I like the

00:20:38.309 --> 00:20:40.470
idea. Did you hear what Craig was saying about

00:20:40.470 --> 00:20:47.009
the three words thing? Yeah. I'm in the middle

00:20:47.009 --> 00:20:49.609
about that. Like, I think it's really cool. But

00:20:49.609 --> 00:20:52.890
then how much extra work is it going to be for

00:20:52.890 --> 00:20:55.609
a listener to get into? Like, I don't know exactly

00:20:55.609 --> 00:20:59.640
how that works. My thought is. We start doing

00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:02.599
the three words, and we say the three words during

00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:06.279
the episode, but we put the coordinates in the

00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:09.299
show notes. Because I don't want to sit here

00:21:09.299 --> 00:21:16.480
and rattle off negative 40 .835 by negative 90

00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:21.400
.2. Yeah, I think that's a good idea. Because

00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:24.539
then it includes both sides, because I don't

00:21:24.539 --> 00:21:28.150
have that app for whatever that is. It's really

00:21:28.150 --> 00:21:32.589
cool, though. I'm absolutely sure it is. It's

00:21:32.589 --> 00:21:33.890
just one of those things, like, I don't know

00:21:33.890 --> 00:21:36.369
if I want to add more stuff to my phone right

00:21:36.369 --> 00:21:38.769
now. Yeah, I feel you. It might come in the future,

00:21:38.849 --> 00:21:41.369
like, if we start doing a lot more. I think we

00:21:41.369 --> 00:21:44.390
should do merch drops. That would be fun. Yep.

00:21:45.309 --> 00:21:48.730
And do the three -word. We could do that specifically,

00:21:49.069 --> 00:21:51.869
do a merch drop in a random part of Michigan.

00:21:52.940 --> 00:21:55.140
Make sure it's sealed up really nice, and then

00:21:55.140 --> 00:21:57.440
do three words, and then whoever comes upon it

00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.480
gets the merch. I like that idea. That'd be kind

00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.380
of fun. Like a geocache almost. Yeah, but for

00:22:03.380 --> 00:22:07.259
listeners. But for listeners. And if you don't

00:22:07.259 --> 00:22:09.019
listen, you don't see it. We won't post it anywhere

00:22:09.019 --> 00:22:12.240
else but where we have a podcast. The Snail Trail

00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.079
guys do something similar. They made these little

00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:19.019
coin things, and then they've hidden them all

00:22:19.019 --> 00:22:23.099
over. California. And if you find enough to say

00:22:23.099 --> 00:22:25.920
snail trail, then you win a whole mechanic set

00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:33.140
from gear wrench tools. So temper trip. Has anyone

00:22:33.140 --> 00:22:37.380
actually done it yet? I guess one guy did. I

00:22:37.380 --> 00:22:41.240
don't know. I'm not fully sure on that one. That's

00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:43.140
really cool. There's a lot of cool stuff that

00:22:43.140 --> 00:22:46.400
we're planning on doing more, more, uh, cords

00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:49.849
and calf more. More drops, I'm sure. We'll do

00:22:49.849 --> 00:22:52.470
some more giveaways, I'm sure. We're just kind

00:22:52.470 --> 00:22:56.130
of getting into this. And as you guys might or

00:22:56.130 --> 00:22:58.430
might not know, it is an investment to do any

00:22:58.430 --> 00:23:02.430
of this from us. So we kind of have to take it

00:23:02.430 --> 00:23:05.690
slow because we're not rich either. And we got

00:23:05.690 --> 00:23:08.130
a... We had a... We had an event we were going

00:23:08.130 --> 00:23:09.970
to do with the cryptids, but I think we've held

00:23:09.970 --> 00:23:12.150
that off this year. Yeah, I think we're going

00:23:12.150 --> 00:23:15.150
to hold that off because we wanted to do a cryptid

00:23:15.150 --> 00:23:18.869
-type hunt, do some cutouts and stuff, but the

00:23:18.869 --> 00:23:21.549
plywood, the stenciling, the cutting out, the

00:23:21.549 --> 00:23:24.670
painting. The time. And to do the time and the

00:23:24.670 --> 00:23:28.009
multiple figures to put it out, it's a lot. Like,

00:23:28.009 --> 00:23:31.369
I think I'm postponing my dyno, my Rex run. Oh,

00:23:31.369 --> 00:23:35.759
shit. Just because one of the other main organizers,

00:23:36.019 --> 00:23:38.619
he's a teacher. He's literally got a Jurassic

00:23:38.619 --> 00:23:43.660
Park Subie. It's a themed Subie and everything.

00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:46.460
He was going to bring a bunch of dinosaur stuff

00:23:46.460 --> 00:23:49.619
too. He just realized that he wouldn't be able

00:23:49.619 --> 00:23:53.319
to make it. So to me, it's like, hey, no big

00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:55.259
deal. There's plenty of other stuff going on.

00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.599
It won't hurt us to wait until next year and

00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:02.559
just plan it out better. Right. I, I'm not upset

00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.940
about it. Gives us more chance to get some dinosaur

00:24:05.940 --> 00:24:08.460
costumes. Maybe by the next time we can do it

00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:11.180
in October and have some dino costumes. And,

00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.200
you know, I wanted to do like a tag event with

00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:18.279
dinosaurs chasing the kids. And maybe, maybe

00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:20.880
like some dinosaur sounds in the middle of the

00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:22.980
night out in the woods just to scare them a lot.

00:24:22.980 --> 00:24:27.400
I don't know. So we'll see. But it'll give us

00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:29.500
more time to plan it out. And these events are.

00:24:30.399 --> 00:24:35.099
Really fun. So I kind of don't want to half -ass

00:24:35.099 --> 00:24:36.839
it, and that takes it off my plate so that I

00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:38.680
don't have to half -ass it. You know what I mean?

00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:43.579
We need to get out and do some scouting for cords

00:24:43.579 --> 00:24:51.079
and calf October. So I have an idea. So there's

00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:54.079
this place that we all go that we really enjoy

00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:56.960
with some decent wheeling. that I'm not going

00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.200
to say the name of because we haven't decided

00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:01.099
it yet, but you know which one I'm talking about.

00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:08.299
It's up north of Reed City. Oh, yeah. That particular

00:25:08.299 --> 00:25:14.480
place is a state area, so we don't have to abide

00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:19.839
by the 20 -people limit. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah,

00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:21.779
I think I know what you're talking about. Was

00:25:21.779 --> 00:25:25.220
it the place where you broke Mark's tailgate?

00:25:26.029 --> 00:25:31.589
Yes. Swing out. Okay. So I think. If anybody

00:25:31.589 --> 00:25:33.390
listens, they might know. Got a couple areas

00:25:33.390 --> 00:25:36.150
there. I think that that would be worth using

00:25:36.150 --> 00:25:40.569
four cords and calf at least once. Yeah. Yeah.

00:25:40.630 --> 00:25:42.490
I'd love to do that place on White Cloud next

00:25:42.490 --> 00:25:45.910
to the lake, but maybe for a smaller one since

00:25:45.910 --> 00:25:48.049
we're worried about the people part of it. See,

00:25:48.049 --> 00:25:51.529
and that's the thing is we're not going to be

00:25:51.529 --> 00:25:54.390
making events anymore. There's too much around

00:25:54.390 --> 00:25:58.390
that. But if you listen to the show, we'll have

00:25:58.390 --> 00:26:00.269
it in the show notes. We'll talk about it in

00:26:00.269 --> 00:26:04.509
the show. Pay attention to our socials. We'll

00:26:04.509 --> 00:26:06.950
put out reels when we drop the chords, then you

00:26:06.950 --> 00:26:08.650
can check the show notes, and boom, there's the

00:26:08.650 --> 00:26:11.630
chords. And you know, if you really, really,

00:26:11.710 --> 00:26:14.410
really want to go, you can send one of us a message.

00:26:14.569 --> 00:26:16.890
Yeah, more than that. Oh, yeah. And depending

00:26:16.890 --> 00:26:18.490
on if we like you or not, we'll give you the

00:26:18.490 --> 00:26:21.599
chords. Because if we don't like you, we're just

00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:26.380
trying to make this outrageously big. We don't

00:26:26.380 --> 00:26:28.440
need it. As much as I would love for this to

00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:32.539
be like a rigs and coffee sized event, it's not

00:26:32.539 --> 00:26:37.660
sustainable for this type of event. We can't

00:26:37.660 --> 00:26:40.480
afford for it to be sustainable. That's really

00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.700
the main thing. The thing is, if we were doing

00:26:42.700 --> 00:26:45.160
it that big, we'd have to get permits every month.

00:26:45.619 --> 00:26:48.750
And it just, it's not going to work. It'd be

00:26:48.750 --> 00:26:52.750
one thing if we had the money from external areas,

00:26:52.890 --> 00:26:56.009
if someone might be sponsoring us, like a company,

00:26:56.190 --> 00:27:00.150
an off -road company nearby that works on, you

00:27:00.150 --> 00:27:05.690
know, lifted trucks. Jeeps. Jeeps. You know,

00:27:05.789 --> 00:27:09.069
as a really large online warehouse. Yeah, yeah,

00:27:09.089 --> 00:27:12.829
you know, right here in our hometown, you know.

00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:15.930
And, you know, they'd never have enough stuff.

00:27:16.750 --> 00:27:20.670
They always have a ton. They have a super cool

00:27:20.670 --> 00:27:24.910
Cadillac out front right now. Yep. Yeah. So,

00:27:24.910 --> 00:27:27.890
I mean, hey, you know, we're not talking about

00:27:27.890 --> 00:27:32.430
any company in particular. No, no. Just one that

00:27:32.430 --> 00:27:36.390
hypothetically may exist. Yeah. I mean, but if

00:27:36.390 --> 00:27:38.390
there was someone who did fit the bill that wanted

00:27:38.390 --> 00:27:41.170
to help out with these kind of events, we'd be

00:27:41.170 --> 00:27:44.589
more than happy. And they could come. They could.

00:27:44.690 --> 00:27:47.930
Come sit up. It would be. I might reach out to

00:27:47.930 --> 00:27:51.049
a hypothetical company that may exist to see

00:27:51.049 --> 00:27:53.369
if they want to do one in their parking lot over

00:27:53.369 --> 00:27:55.670
the winter, because that would be pretty sick.

00:27:57.109 --> 00:28:00.369
Yes, it would. Yes, it would. That one could

00:28:00.369 --> 00:28:02.029
potentially be a little bit bigger than what

00:28:02.029 --> 00:28:04.210
we usually have. I don't know. The parking lot

00:28:04.210 --> 00:28:06.210
size, do you think it would be bigger or smaller?

00:28:06.470 --> 00:28:09.750
I mean, it is a privately owned area, so I figure

00:28:09.750 --> 00:28:13.109
there is some grace there to get permits. If

00:28:13.109 --> 00:28:17.150
we work with... uh hypothetical really good restaurant

00:28:17.150 --> 00:28:20.470
that's right next door maybe we could take over

00:28:20.470 --> 00:28:25.869
their parking lot too true so we could definitely

00:28:25.869 --> 00:28:28.789
do it in an abandoned parking lot of a store

00:28:28.789 --> 00:28:31.089
that closed down that they have thousands of

00:28:31.089 --> 00:28:35.410
that might hypothetically be here but just got

00:28:35.410 --> 00:28:38.470
purchased by another company and is currently

00:28:38.470 --> 00:28:43.109
getting filled with rental equipment oh Oh, I

00:28:43.109 --> 00:28:45.869
didn't know that. Yeah. I haven't been in Grant

00:28:45.869 --> 00:28:49.309
in months. Not really. I haven't been in Grant

00:28:49.309 --> 00:28:53.549
in like the downtown area by that area in a while

00:28:53.549 --> 00:28:55.349
because I don't have any need to go down there

00:28:55.349 --> 00:29:00.230
anymore. I'm there every day. Yeah. So that's

00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:02.970
interesting. Yeah. I mean, there's lots of possibilities,

00:29:03.150 --> 00:29:05.470
guys. And if you have an idea, let us know. Yeah,

00:29:05.490 --> 00:29:08.549
for sure. So far, we only have one super active

00:29:08.549 --> 00:29:11.579
listener. And I would really like to have more

00:29:11.579 --> 00:29:14.259
super active listeners. I hope we're talking

00:29:14.259 --> 00:29:15.680
about Wreck -It Rob, because Wreck -It Rob's

00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:22.000
great. Zach. Oh, wait. Oh, that Zach. Yeah. Zach

00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.680
always gets - He was asking about insurance recently.

00:29:23.940 --> 00:29:26.660
Yeah. That's because I was talking to him on

00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:29.279
mine, because I think he heard our podcast where

00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:30.940
we were talking about our insane insurance. To

00:29:30.940 --> 00:29:33.220
put it out, Michigan insurance is some of the

00:29:33.220 --> 00:29:35.519
highest in the country. That's why our insurance

00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:40.079
is insane. California insurance is cheaper than

00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:44.819
ours. Let that sink in. That feels so wrong to

00:29:44.819 --> 00:29:49.960
say that, actually. So if you guys have any ideas,

00:29:50.579 --> 00:29:54.259
you guys want to help work with us, anything

00:29:54.259 --> 00:29:57.180
like that, let us know. I do. That did. That

00:29:57.180 --> 00:29:59.539
kind of chalks up our 30 minutes and our wrap.

00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.619
Yeah. I'm really excited about cords and calf

00:30:02.619 --> 00:30:06.099
though. It's an event that to me is pretty special

00:30:06.099 --> 00:30:09.700
and I think could really become something really

00:30:09.700 --> 00:30:13.359
good. Yeah. And if you guys could bring some

00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:17.079
donuts next time and maybe firewood, that'd be

00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:20.240
great. Yeah. We did run out of firewood, but

00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.019
we were okay. A normal rigs and coffee last what?

00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.740
Two hours. Yeah. Typically. Yeah. We were not

00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:29.019
expecting to be almost there for like, we were

00:30:29.019 --> 00:30:32.240
there for eight hours. I got home at like seven

00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.680
and seen. It's like, you're not home yet. Like,

00:30:33.740 --> 00:30:37.960
Nope. Just got home. She was talking about dinner.

00:30:38.259 --> 00:30:40.460
She's like, you guys can stop at a restaurant

00:30:40.460 --> 00:30:42.839
because I just getting out. And I'm like, yep,

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I'm almost at home. And she's like, what the

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fuck? We should definitely. Yeah. We should definitely

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do. Like, lunch next time. Because I ate donuts,

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and then I didn't eat again until dinner time.

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Yeah. We should do hot dogs or something. Hot

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dogs are cheap. Yeah. The can of hash and donuts

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did not last me until dinner time. Oh, dude,

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that's all I ate was those donuts that day. Same.

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Donuts and three monsters. I was starving. Yeah,

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Cords and Calf was great. Yes. All right. Have

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a good day. Bye. Have a good day. Later.
