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Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk

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about everything from gear reviews to trail stories,

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tent camping to rock landing, and all things

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to do with the outdoors. This is a wrap. We're

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back on the wrap train, doing wraps all the time.

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I love to wrap my wraps. There's a chicken salad

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wrap that my uncle used to make that I really

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need to get the recipe for. Sorry. I mean, it's

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on topic, but off topic. It's on topic, man,

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because now I'm thinking about snack wraps, and

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I might need to drive over to McDonald's. Dude,

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they are not what they used to be. They're not,

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but I still like them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No,

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it had chicken. I think it was mayo -based. It

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had a little bit of chicken, a little bit of

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ranch. And it had cut apples, and I thought the

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apples and blueberries in it would be really

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gross. Oh, my God, they had a whole different,

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like, level of flavor you just reminded me because

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i need it i i used to like live off of it so

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um there's such a it's a good like trail snack

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if sienna and by the way i'm gonna complain here

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before we actually get into the wrap sienna doesn't

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like wraps so it really sucks because that's

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like what i prefer they're so easy to make having

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to make sandwiches all the time i'm not big on

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bread dude That's what we eat when we're camping.

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That's our lunch food is wraps. Yeah. Yeah, dude.

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I would be fine with four bags of tortillas or

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something. I'd eat my peanut butter sandwiches

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on my, because I used to roll up peanut butter

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tortillas. I love peanut butter rollies. Yeah,

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there you go. Dude, and for trail stuff, dude,

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peanut butter jelly rollies, as the kids say,

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that shit slaps. You could even do like cheese

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roll -ups where you put some cheese on, roll

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it up, wrap it in tinfoil, throw it in the coals.

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Cheesy rolls. Yeah, cheesy roll -ups are the

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shit too. You can't beat them. Like tortilla.

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I'm not even hungry when we're talking about

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this. Are we that fat? No. But it's good for,

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it gives some people some ideas for trail snacks.

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Yum. Our main trail snack, I mean, we always

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do a big bag of trail mix in each truck. Yeah,

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I remember you saying that. Cars, it has to be

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cars. Yep. But then we always have wraps, at

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least in a cooler, so we can make them on the

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fly real quick. Yeah, our trail slash road snack

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is always like big sunflower seeds. Me and Sienna

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will just eat that while we're driving and stuff

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or on the trail. But yeah, so I had a revelation

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today. We don't have any mayonnaise at home.

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and I went to go make tuna salad. Guess what?

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Thousand Island Dressing makes a fucking amazing

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tuna salad base instead of mayo. I might have

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to try that. Oh, dude, it's already got a little

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bit of relish kind of stuff in it. It's already

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got all the flavoring and all that. Dude, it

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was perfect. I didn't really have to add anything.

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All I did was add cracked pepper and hot sauce

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because I'm a hot sauce bitch. It was so good.

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That's another thing we've done for trails. Well,

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not trail snacks, but like lunches. Yeah. Is

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we'll get a rotisserie chicken from Sam's Club

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because they're $5. So we'll get like two or

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three of those. And then we bring it home and

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we shred them and make chicken salad. And then

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just put it in the cooler. Do you remember the

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COVID guy? The rotisserie chicken cooler? covid

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guy that went around okay so there was this guy

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who would buy like go to costco or sam's club

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and he was a fucking like nut dude so he had

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a barcode t -shirt on and the barcode t -shirt

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that was the barcode for the rotisserie chickens

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at the sam's club or costco and he didn't want

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anybody touching his chicken because he didn't

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want covid on them so he brought he bought three

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rotisserie chickens to the line And there's video

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of this. He's like, scan my shirt. And they're

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like, huh? And they go to reach for the rotisserie.

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Don't fucking touch the chicken. He's like, scan

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my shirt. This is the rotisserie chicken. He

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goes, I don't want anyone touching my chicken.

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Like, it was just so funny. And he looks like,

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he kind of looked kind of like that old dude

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off of It's Always Sunny. Oh, my God. You know

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what I mean? He just gave me that same kind of

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impression. That's like. But it was really funny.

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So rotisserie chicken also gives me a headache

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when I eat it. So I have to eat it cold. Really?

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For some reason, when it's hot, I don't know

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if it's the grease or preservatives or how it's

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cooked, it gives me a headache. KFC chicken does

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the same thing. But when I eat it cold, it doesn't.

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I don't know why. Yeah. But yeah, Sam's Club

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rotisserie chicken makes the best chicken salad.

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Yeah. Very good. The Jeans and Meyer ones, not

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only are they twice the cost of the Sam's Club,

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they're never as good. And Costco's is all right,

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but it's not as good as Sam's Club. Speaking

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of chicken, so there's also this trend going

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around. Have you ever heard of Dave's Hot Chicken?

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It's a chicken fast food restaurant or whatever.

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They have massive fucking chicken breasts. And

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they have all different hot chicken flavors,

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and they have one called the Reaper Chicken,

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where it's just dry coated in Carolina Reaper

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powder. Carolina Reapers. Yes, dude. It's dark,

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dark red. And they make you sign a waiver on

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the receipt because it's that bad. Dude, I went

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on a trend of watching people try this. Not only

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does a chicken look perfectly cooked and juicy

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every time they bite it, And you could hear the

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crunch, which just always makes me hungry when

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you hear that crunch. Dude, within 30 seconds,

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they're just fucking sweating and crying. And

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I'm like, I want to try it once. It's $9 for

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one. Like, I'm eating that whole fucking chicken

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breast for $9. God damn it. Just once. Like,

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dude, I'll be dead probably. Like, because it

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kills you twice. Well. Yeah. Well, now that we're

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seven minutes into our wrap that's supposed to

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be about weekend recaps and plans, what'd you

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do last weekend? What'd I do last weekend? I

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don't know. I'm trying to remember. I won a giveaway.

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That happened last weekend. Yeah, two of them.

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I won two giveaways. I won a giveaway through

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Nobsight. I call them Novacite, but I don't think

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they have an I after an OV, so I think it's Novacite.

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I just think it's Novacite. Yeah, I always call

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it Novacite. But anyway, I won a giveaway for

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them, so I have some little triangle pods, and

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we now have an idea of how we're going to set

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them up on the rig. That's what I'm going to

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do, what we talked about earlier. Yeah. I think

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that's going to be pretty good. You're going

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to buy like four more sets of them and do the

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up, down, up, down thing across your grill? Yeah.

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Well, I'm not going to buy the NoveSite ones,

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but the Temu ones are exactly the same, at least

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judging by the profile picture since they have

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NoveSite in the background. Yeah. And they're

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$45 for a set of two. That's not bad. No. So

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I'm going to buy two sets of those, and that'll

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be six. I don't think I'm going to need eight

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because that's three inch. So I'll have to measure

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my grill because I'm just going to center it

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right in the middle of my grill is take that

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little Toyota part out. That's sitting there

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and that it'll just be lights there. And I think

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that'll look really cool. It's recessed and I'm

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going to have the two on either side on the far

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ends pointed out a little bit. So I'll have the

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four in the middle. I might have those angled

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up or down a little bit just to help with coverage.

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But I'll have the other two pointing out to help

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push out. And then I'll connect them all together

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because I won't need, you know what I mean, I'm

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not going to need that much articulation. So

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I'm just going to splice all of them together

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on that. And then me and you are going to spend

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some time hooking up all the function on that.

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Well, why are the two different functions on

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a box, on my panel? But, yeah. It's going to

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be really cool, though. It'll look cool. It will

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be. It'll be different. Oh, come on. I think

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you'll like it when it's all said and done. You'll

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have so many Doritos on the front of your truck,

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dude. You've already got two Doritos. I'll probably

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move those if I do that. I mean, that only makes

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sense, right? I mean, because at that point,

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it's overkill. I don't know. Although all those

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will be amber. So maybe having the white pods

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up front might be nice. It'd be kind of cool

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if you could offset them so that you have like

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an amber one, a white one, an amber one, a white

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one, an amber one or something. I'll have to

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check because I think that they also have a white.

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I was going to say, because then you could have

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the option to do white or the option to do amber,

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which, in my opinion, is pretty killer, because

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sometimes the amber light just doesn't cut it

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when you need to see something. Yeah, well, my

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headlights do really good, too. And then I'm

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going to get that last fit that gets like a 40

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-ish single LED far. And I'm going to do that

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up top on that cutout where the Prinsu goes.

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I think that's the one I... That might be the

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one I have on the back of the truck. Is that

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a 40 -inch? I'm looking right now. I want to

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say yours is like a 20 -something, I think. It

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might be a 24 -inch. I'm assuming it's a 24.

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So 40 is noticeably wider. My dogs are being

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absolutely fucking ridiculous right now. That's

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okay. Oh, it's 22 -inch. Yeah, so if anyone hears

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a bunch of clicking and knocking, it's my dogs

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being dogs. It happens. But, yeah, so I won that,

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and then I won a pedestal fan, which just so

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happens to be the same fan I'm using now, same

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brand. Ogre. Yep, Ogre. So I'm going to donate

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my old Ogre fan, old as in it's less than a month

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old, to Alex, and I'm going to use that pedestal

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one because a lot of the times we camp in a smaller

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tent. That ogre -y is really good at just, like,

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I used it for two, three days straight when we

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were out camping. So it was really good for that.

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I'm really excited. I don't know. I'm really

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excited to hang that in the swag at my feet,

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just pointed at me, pulling cold air in all the

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time. Dude, will that be in contact with the

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window? Like, to be able to pull in? yeah it

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should uh dude i think it might be basically

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ac i don't point oh i'm so i'm dude i'm excited

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even if i close even when i close the side doors

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right the two big ones it'll be like a tunnel

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effect where it's just blowing cold air over

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me it's gonna be sick that's sick i'm so dude

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i'm so stoked yeah i i uh yeah So is that all

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you did last weekend? Yeah, but I will include

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yesterday's fun because it's close, and it's

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good to talk about on the wrap. So, you know,

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my father -in -law, his car broke down, so he's

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been borrowing my wife's car, and she's been

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borrowing my FJ, and since I work from home now,

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I don't really need it. Well, she was picking

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up my kid yesterday. and all of a sudden she

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pulls into the daycare parking lot, and the Christmas

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tree lights turn on on the FJ, and she starts

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getting this loud, constant beep from the dash.

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And she calls me, and I'm like, I have no idea.

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And she's like, yeah, okay, I think you're out

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of brake fluid. And I'm like, well, that means

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we have a leak somewhere. So she popped the hood,

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looked in there, and she's like, oh, yeah, that's

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fucking dry. There's no brake fluid in there

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whatsoever. And I'm like. Well, check the lines

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by the wheels. Maybe I snagged something when

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I was trailing the other day. And she just went

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around the corner of the truck, looked at the

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driver's side of the rear, and there's just a

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puddle sitting around the tire. And she's like,

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found it. That was a big puddle. That was a big

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puddle. So I've been meaning to change my brake

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pads out, and I went to... Do them either Sunday

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or Monday, but because she's been borrowing the

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truck, I haven't really had the time to do it

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or the chance to do it, plus the rain. And they

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went out. We lost a pad somewhere, and the caliper

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was pretty much just dragging against the rotor

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and overextended the piston, and it leaked all

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the way out the piston seal. I'm assuming that's

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what it was. Yep. And, yeah, it leaked all my

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brake fluid out the piston seal. So I called

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Alex, said, hey it's an emergency i need your

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help and he goes i'll grab my tools and that

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was he fucking came over picked me up and uh

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we went to daycare backed it up into a um you

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know another parking spot i had to go grab a

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another caliper because my caliper was fucking

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toast i mean done There was barely anything left

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of the one side of it. It had been sitting on

00:14:32.779 --> 00:14:35.200
that rotor for a while. So my rotors are toast

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on that one. My caliper was toast. We replaced

00:14:38.620 --> 00:14:42.000
the caliper, put new pads on it, and I'll have

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to get another caliper, another set of pads,

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and two rotors to make everything right. And

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I'm probably going to do that Friday or Saturday

00:14:52.659 --> 00:14:55.750
and try to get that done before I go. depending

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on how much, you know, our allotment, like I

00:14:57.809 --> 00:15:02.309
told you, but, um, but yeah, so that was really

00:15:02.309 --> 00:15:04.649
fun. That was a fun way to end my night last

00:15:04.649 --> 00:15:08.830
night. Um, I had shit to do and he had shit to

00:15:08.830 --> 00:15:12.470
do, but life happens and, and he was there. So,

00:15:12.470 --> 00:15:14.850
so it's really cool. We, we did all that fun

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stuff. And then I came back and edited yesterday.

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I guess it'll be Tuesdays or. Wednesday's episode

00:15:21.750 --> 00:15:24.529
for you guys but I edited Wednesday's episode

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and got that out on time even though it's supposed

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to be out on Tuesday but whatever yeah that was

00:15:32.090 --> 00:15:34.230
fun man yeah we got to hang out a little bit

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too we don't hang out a ton despite being seven

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minutes away from each other but yeah I think

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that was since doing the long travel I think

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that might be my first time on the expressway

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I don't remember going on the expressway with

00:15:48.409 --> 00:15:51.139
long travel yeah I mean it did good I mean, no

00:15:51.139 --> 00:15:55.720
problems. So 4Runner is now expressway travel

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rated. I even did 75. Yeah, dude. And it wasn't

00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:03.419
terrifying. No. I mean, honestly, his steering

00:16:03.419 --> 00:16:05.539
wheel is a lot more solid than mine when I go

00:16:05.539 --> 00:16:09.039
on 75. Mine gets a small vibration, and I just

00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:10.679
thought it was from the tires, but I'm assuming

00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:15.899
it's not now, judging by yours. So I might have

00:16:15.899 --> 00:16:19.840
to address that at some point. Because it goes

00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:24.039
away. It's a certain range of speed. It'll get

00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:28.240
a little rattly, but not a lot. That might be

00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.460
your ECG. Well, you replace it with an ECGS bushing.

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It's your... Oh, you know what? I look retarded.

00:16:36.059 --> 00:16:40.620
It's your... Needle bearing? It's a little needle

00:16:40.620 --> 00:16:42.399
bearing, but I can't remember the name. Is it

00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:46.779
the needle bearing for the CV? Yeah. Joe was

00:16:46.779 --> 00:16:50.740
telling me that, too. And I've got the tool to

00:16:50.740 --> 00:16:52.759
change it. Well, Duncan bought it, but we have

00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.740
the tool to change it. Right. So when I do that,

00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:57.840
I'll just redo the seal and the needle bearing.

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I don't think I'll need new CVs. Well, I might

00:17:03.700 --> 00:17:05.700
buy new CVs just because we're doing it all anyway.

00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:10.440
Yeah, I also need to order new CVs. Not because

00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:13.720
mine are bad, but because... all of my spare

00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:16.180
cvs are for forerunners and now i need tundra

00:17:16.180 --> 00:17:18.980
cvs so i have no spares yeah and yours won't

00:17:18.980 --> 00:17:22.119
fit mine we were talking about damn it yep so

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rock auto 45 bucks i don't know what they are

00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.859
but yeah i think it's like it's like a hundred

00:17:27.859 --> 00:17:29.640
to buy a set off ebay which is probably what

00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.440
i'll do yeah so yeah that's fun i'm not buying

00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:34.019
them from autozone even though i get a good discount

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they're way too expensive although the issue

00:17:39.230 --> 00:17:41.230
Well, the good thing about buying them from AutoZone

00:17:41.230 --> 00:17:42.990
is I always get the warranty. So if they ever

00:17:42.990 --> 00:17:46.789
go out, I'll always have a replacement for free.

00:17:46.869 --> 00:17:48.470
It's like you have to buy it once and you won't

00:17:48.470 --> 00:17:51.730
need to buy it again, basically. But you also

00:17:51.730 --> 00:17:55.130
have to be close to an AutoZone when it breaks.

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Right. Or you have to have a way to get to one.

00:17:59.210 --> 00:18:06.079
And they have to have it. Right. I like O 'Reilly's

00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:07.960
for the same reason. I do a lot of O 'Reilly's

00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.079
stuff just because then there's an O 'Reilly's

00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:12.099
everywhere. Right. I mean, AutoZones. I just

00:18:12.099 --> 00:18:14.059
take the part. AutoZones are everywhere. And

00:18:14.059 --> 00:18:16.900
also, my wife is a store manager at AutoZones,

00:18:16.900 --> 00:18:19.920
so it does help. She's got a little bit of push

00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.640
-pull. She knows how the system works, so it

00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.460
helps with getting returns and stuff. But what

00:18:26.460 --> 00:18:29.309
about you? What did you do this weekend? yeah

00:18:29.309 --> 00:18:31.490
this weekend was great i got out of work early

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because i still have no turkeys so i went up

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north to my grandpa's for the first time in five

00:18:37.230 --> 00:18:39.789
years and hung out with a bunch of horse people

00:18:39.789 --> 00:18:45.190
it was dude it's crazy thinking about the ranch

00:18:45.190 --> 00:18:47.849
like when because i grew up going to the ranch

00:18:47.849 --> 00:18:51.309
right and it was just a family thing and now

00:18:51.309 --> 00:18:54.130
there's like like there are 60 some trucks and

00:18:54.130 --> 00:18:56.549
trailers there this weekend like it was crazy

00:18:56.549 --> 00:19:01.910
right um But it was fun. My dogs are absolute

00:19:01.910 --> 00:19:04.430
assholes, and they want to meet every dog, so

00:19:04.430 --> 00:19:06.309
they were annoying as hell the entire weekend.

00:19:08.829 --> 00:19:12.009
Because when we did our camping trip two weekends

00:19:12.009 --> 00:19:14.730
ago, Wrangler's hips got really sore from being

00:19:14.730 --> 00:19:18.150
crowded in the swag. So what I did was I set

00:19:18.150 --> 00:19:20.750
up the canopy and then put the swag in the canopy

00:19:20.750 --> 00:19:23.670
and then also put my cot in there, and that worked

00:19:23.670 --> 00:19:25.910
out great because there was plenty of space for

00:19:25.910 --> 00:19:27.930
everyone to sleep. The dogs had their own space.

00:19:29.259 --> 00:19:33.160
Yeah, it just worked out really well. But after

00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.019
doing that, I realized it's just time to get

00:19:36.019 --> 00:19:40.819
Wrangler's own space. So I ordered a 23 -0 woof

00:19:40.819 --> 00:19:45.359
den, which is pretty much just my swag, but scaled

00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:51.180
down for dogs. So cool. It's so cool, dude. And

00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:53.059
it's funny because you can double it for the

00:19:53.059 --> 00:19:54.680
kid if he ever needs it and you don't have the

00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:59.779
dogs. I actually... For Christmas, I plan on

00:19:59.779 --> 00:20:02.400
getting him a single -person swag, but I want

00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.259
to get him a full -size one. That way he can

00:20:04.259 --> 00:20:07.000
have it from now until he's an adult. Yeah, and

00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.759
they don't really, you know, they last forever,

00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:13.180
so. Yeah. It's not like you're going to, it's

00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:16.400
not like it's a bad investment doing it. Yeah,

00:20:16.420 --> 00:20:18.200
the worst you'd have to do is maybe put a new

00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:21.140
mattress in it at some point, you know, and that's

00:20:21.140 --> 00:20:25.160
not hard. No. But, yeah, I'm really excited about

00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:27.819
this Woof Den. It's $130, so it's not like it.

00:20:28.059 --> 00:20:31.019
you know it's super crazy expensive i mean i

00:20:31.019 --> 00:20:33.660
guess for a dog yeah it's kind of crazy it's

00:20:33.660 --> 00:20:37.059
a little bit but uh we're gonna use it as his

00:20:37.059 --> 00:20:39.319
crate here at the house too because his crate

00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.759
i built his crate for another dog back in like

00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:47.920
2017 and she destroyed this thing so he's just

00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:50.960
been chilling in a crate that if he really wanted

00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.259
out he just has to push the door and it'll open

00:20:53.259 --> 00:20:56.579
but he's a good dog and doesn't care so he likes

00:20:56.579 --> 00:20:58.690
that crate though It's his little home. He does.

00:20:58.910 --> 00:21:00.809
That's the only thing I feel afraid of is, like,

00:21:00.849 --> 00:21:03.170
dogs that get really attached to that kind of

00:21:03.170 --> 00:21:05.470
thing. Right. Well, I'm going to do it slow.

00:21:05.589 --> 00:21:07.390
So I'm going to move his bedding into the woof

00:21:07.390 --> 00:21:11.430
den. And then after a while, he'll start to get

00:21:11.430 --> 00:21:14.630
used to going in there. And then I'll take his

00:21:14.630 --> 00:21:17.890
crate out after that. Because my goal is to get

00:21:17.890 --> 00:21:20.089
him used to the woof den at home with all his

00:21:20.089 --> 00:21:22.630
stuff in it. So then when it's time to go camping,

00:21:22.769 --> 00:21:25.529
I just, you know. Roll it up and basically his

00:21:25.529 --> 00:21:28.809
house just comes with us. Hell yeah, dude. Yeah,

00:21:28.869 --> 00:21:31.269
it's such a cool fucking tent. I'd look for like

00:21:31.269 --> 00:21:35.569
a liner for the mattress. That way you can wash

00:21:35.569 --> 00:21:37.329
that. You don't have to wash the whole thing

00:21:37.329 --> 00:21:41.450
constantly. There's no mattress in it right now.

00:21:41.809 --> 00:21:44.329
So we're going to start with just putting the

00:21:44.329 --> 00:21:48.829
bedding that's in his crate in there. And it's

00:21:48.829 --> 00:21:50.950
got a bathtub. I mean, it's not like a cheaply

00:21:50.950 --> 00:21:54.769
made thing. It's made like a tent. But I also,

00:21:54.849 --> 00:21:58.190
after this weekend, the kid kept stealing my

00:21:58.190 --> 00:22:01.549
chair because he didn't want his little chair.

00:22:01.670 --> 00:22:07.289
He wanted a big chair. So I ordered a 23 -0 trail

00:22:07.289 --> 00:22:12.589
compact chair. I'm at a point where I've kind

00:22:12.589 --> 00:22:15.329
of realized 23 -0 makes stuff that I can trust.

00:22:16.089 --> 00:22:18.950
So I've kind of just been buying their stuff

00:22:18.950 --> 00:22:21.680
lately. Sponsor us. They should. Yeah, they should

00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.559
sponsor us. Hashtag. I do have an application

00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:27.400
in right now, so hopefully that gets approved

00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:29.599
because I'd love cheaper 23 .0 gear. I have an

00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:33.480
application. I know the site. They said they

00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:36.500
would be honored to work with me. Excuse me.

00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:41.420
Man, sorry. That snuck up on me. Yeah, they said

00:22:41.420 --> 00:22:43.539
they'd be honored to work with me, and they're

00:22:43.539 --> 00:22:47.220
like, let's get back. We'll get back to you after

00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:48.720
we look at your socials. I'm like, don't look

00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:53.160
at my socials. I'm really excited for this chair,

00:22:53.180 --> 00:22:56.680
though, because it's four pounds, and it folds

00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:59.700
down to like six by ten or something like that.

00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:03.779
Yeah. Which has kind of been the standard for

00:23:03.779 --> 00:23:06.180
chair sizes for me, just because the Forerunner

00:23:06.180 --> 00:23:10.579
has no freaking space. Mm -hmm. So having something

00:23:10.579 --> 00:23:13.119
small like that's kind of crucial. Yeah. I'll

00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:20.269
be getting the Novosight ones. 45 % because they're

00:23:20.269 --> 00:23:25.430
cool, and 55 % because they actually have a good

00:23:25.430 --> 00:23:28.509
weight rating. They have a full head, like full

00:23:28.509 --> 00:23:30.690
back on it that you can put your head on, and

00:23:30.690 --> 00:23:34.369
I believe they recline a little bit too. The

00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:36.849
23 .0 doesn't recline, but that's specifically

00:23:36.849 --> 00:23:39.529
why I went with it is it's got the part for my

00:23:39.529 --> 00:23:41.670
head. Yeah, I want, dude, because when I fall

00:23:41.670 --> 00:23:43.829
asleep in those chairs, which I will fall asleep,

00:23:43.910 --> 00:23:47.170
that's the point. is i want to be able to rest

00:23:47.170 --> 00:23:50.069
my head dude i'll do this whole like chicken

00:23:50.069 --> 00:23:52.130
head thing yeah my head's just bobbing all over

00:23:52.130 --> 00:23:54.430
the place i can't sleep like alan where he just

00:23:54.430 --> 00:24:00.549
kind of hangs his head down just can't start

00:24:00.549 --> 00:24:04.430
snoring away mid -conversation yeah the fuck

00:24:04.430 --> 00:24:09.839
like you sleep too good Yeah, this is the most

00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:11.799
I've ever spent on a camp chair, so it better

00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.740
be fucking good. You know, I'm slowly, slowly

00:24:14.740 --> 00:24:21.180
getting Alex's tax thing, and it's just fabulous.

00:24:23.019 --> 00:24:25.380
Well, no, you're not, because the stuff I'm buying,

00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:28.680
you would never have bought. I would have. Oh.

00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:34.519
Yeah, I mean, like the swag, absolutely. Had

00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:39.089
I honestly known about them. Yeah. I, yeah, that's,

00:24:39.130 --> 00:24:42.869
I mean, I just, so like, I'm, especially if I

00:24:42.869 --> 00:24:45.329
was solo, if I was solo, the swag, a hundred

00:24:45.329 --> 00:24:49.849
percent, it, no competition. The, the two person,

00:24:49.869 --> 00:24:52.750
like the smaller two person swags, they would

00:24:52.750 --> 00:24:55.049
fit in the truck. Like they're not as big as

00:24:55.049 --> 00:24:57.869
mine. Mine's insane. Well, isn't yours a two?

00:24:59.670 --> 00:25:02.150
Mine's the biggest two you can buy. And that's

00:25:02.150 --> 00:25:04.130
probably what I'd still do because with the kid.

00:25:05.029 --> 00:25:08.789
Yeah. Even on your footprint, yours is just a

00:25:08.789 --> 00:25:10.549
bit wider than mine. I'll have to do a measurement

00:25:10.549 --> 00:25:14.769
on that. But even then, we're like stacked up.

00:25:16.230 --> 00:25:19.829
We can't sleep flat arm to arm with each other.

00:25:20.849 --> 00:25:25.109
It's just not working. Yeah, I'm sending a link

00:25:25.109 --> 00:25:27.410
right now for the one I'm getting Jackson. Oh,

00:25:27.509 --> 00:25:29.750
no, that's not what I want to send. Go back.

00:25:31.369 --> 00:25:35.039
This one is... i mean it's a small two -person

00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:39.619
right like mine is uh 1550 this is a 900 but

00:25:39.619 --> 00:25:42.279
it's still considered a two -person right um

00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:47.400
but this like if i was solo dude and i i would

00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.240
have bought this over my light fighter had i

00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.140
known they existed well i didn't buy the light

00:25:51.140 --> 00:25:55.339
fighter but like it's just it's perfect it's

00:25:55.339 --> 00:25:57.700
the perfect size for one person and you can put

00:25:57.700 --> 00:26:06.069
them on cots like So the Dual 900 is 85 -inch

00:26:06.069 --> 00:26:11.910
by 43 -inch by 33 -inch. The Dual 1100 is the

00:26:11.910 --> 00:26:21.130
same. So what's the difference? I don't remember,

00:26:21.230 --> 00:26:24.670
but there is a difference. Let's see. Measurements,

00:26:24.769 --> 00:26:28.269
feature specs. They've got to have one of those

00:26:28.269 --> 00:26:31.640
little comparison charts, I'm sure. Scrolling.

00:26:31.740 --> 00:26:38.740
Oh. Karua. Karua Kala. Temperature regulating

00:26:38.740 --> 00:26:42.519
inner camping tent. Oh, it's an interior tent.

00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:48.700
Oh. Anyway. The other brand that I've been seeing

00:26:48.700 --> 00:26:50.960
that I am kind of interested in, they're called

00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:53.819
like Kakadu or something like that. Kakadu, huh?

00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:58.000
Yeah. K -A -K -A -D -U. And they've got some

00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.599
really cool freaking swags. I actually was having

00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:05.380
a hard time deciding between their two -person

00:27:05.380 --> 00:27:09.400
or the 230 one. Yeah. But I ended up with the

00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:13.220
230 because theirs has three pulls, three hoop

00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:16.200
pulls instead of two. And I didn't want that

00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.559
divider where I'd have to climb through a tiny

00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:23.339
hole. Oh, okay. Yeah. Same thing with the OVS.

00:27:23.380 --> 00:27:26.880
I didn't get the OVS because, one, it looks a

00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:31.849
hell of a lot cheaper. It does not look that

00:27:31.849 --> 00:27:35.450
well built at all. And then on top of that, it's

00:27:35.450 --> 00:27:38.670
got three hoops instead of two. Right. So it's

00:27:38.670 --> 00:27:43.829
got that other divider. Yeah, I generally think

00:27:43.829 --> 00:27:46.589
that OVS makes some good stuff, but their swag

00:27:46.589 --> 00:27:50.849
looks like shit. It looks bad. It's bad. Right.

00:27:52.670 --> 00:27:55.769
I just sent you a tent that looks kind of interesting

00:27:55.769 --> 00:27:59.079
called a He -Wolf. Kind of looks kind of like

00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.700
the Acacia tents we were looking at. That was

00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:04.200
kind of cool. Yeah, so these are kind of cool.

00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.799
They're, like, quick setup ones. I've watched

00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.160
some reviews on them, and durability on them

00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:14.140
isn't great. Right. But, like, the idea behind

00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:16.740
it's cool. It's all folded up. You just put it

00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:18.859
out and pop the center up, and boom, it's done.

00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:27.119
Yeah. It's a he -wolf. Two - to four -person

00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.279
camping tent. Yeah. If you want to look it up

00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:35.559
on Amazon for the listeners. Yeah, it's... I'm

00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.000
just so fascinated by the tent game. I mean,

00:28:38.019 --> 00:28:41.819
there's just so much to see. And ground tents

00:28:41.819 --> 00:28:47.680
have gotten insane, dude. So this He -Wolf is

00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.319
more comparable to your core tent than the Acacia.

00:28:52.099 --> 00:28:57.730
There is... A company called like Fantic Outdoor.

00:28:57.849 --> 00:28:59.630
Yeah. They make something pretty close to the

00:28:59.630 --> 00:29:04.410
Acacia. I've seen the Fantic ones. Yeah. That

00:29:04.410 --> 00:29:06.829
one to me is literally just a pop -up deer blind.

00:29:07.089 --> 00:29:09.230
I mean, that's what a lot of them are. They're

00:29:09.230 --> 00:29:11.289
modded out either deer blinds or like someone

00:29:11.289 --> 00:29:17.009
took the pop -up ice shanties and just redesigned

00:29:17.009 --> 00:29:18.769
them a little bit. But the same thing, really.

00:29:20.690 --> 00:29:24.220
And you know what? I've thought about it a lot,

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:29.740
like clamshell style ice shanties and just pop

00:29:29.740 --> 00:29:31.640
-up ice shanties in general. You could definitely

00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:35.779
use those. They're insulated well. I mean, they're

00:29:35.779 --> 00:29:38.119
pretty, I would imagine they got to be somewhat

00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:44.900
rain repellent, you know. So back before we started

00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:47.140
doing the whole overland thing, we actually did

00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:51.099
a camping trip with my Rhino 180 deer blind as

00:29:51.099 --> 00:29:54.869
our tent. And for anyone that doesn't know what

00:29:54.869 --> 00:29:58.250
the Rhino 180 is, from the inside, two of the

00:29:58.250 --> 00:30:00.809
walls are completely see -through. But from the

00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:03.630
outside, you can't see through it. Oh, yeah,

00:30:03.750 --> 00:30:07.369
I've seen those. So you'd be in there sleeping

00:30:07.369 --> 00:30:09.190
or something, and someone would walk by, and

00:30:09.190 --> 00:30:11.509
you'd feel like they were in the tent with you.

00:30:11.789 --> 00:30:14.210
Yeah, those are really cool. I like the idea

00:30:14.210 --> 00:30:17.170
of those having the, it's like one -way mirror

00:30:17.170 --> 00:30:20.029
almost. Like the other side's like camo or whatever.

00:30:20.710 --> 00:30:23.269
But the inside you can see completely through.

00:30:23.869 --> 00:30:28.250
Really like the idea of that. Even for just like

00:30:28.250 --> 00:30:31.750
your typical screens on tents, I would really

00:30:31.750 --> 00:30:35.349
like that. Because I'd like to have that open

00:30:35.349 --> 00:30:38.630
airflow. Like the first couple days when we were

00:30:38.630 --> 00:30:42.670
camping, we didn't even need a rain fly. But

00:30:42.670 --> 00:30:45.049
you kind of want the privacy sometimes if you're

00:30:45.049 --> 00:30:47.329
changing in the tent. It'd be nice to have it

00:30:47.329 --> 00:30:52.960
be like a one -way screen. Yeah. I just, I don't

00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:54.660
get why they don't. Maybe it doesn't promote

00:30:54.660 --> 00:30:56.980
as good as an airflow because it's thick. Like,

00:30:57.059 --> 00:30:59.500
I don't know. It must be like thicker webbing.

00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.640
We should go into business together and design

00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:07.140
this. Be a really cool tent. Exit game. Yeah.

00:31:07.140 --> 00:31:11.420
Yeah. Right. No shit. Yeah. We'll put it up on

00:31:11.420 --> 00:31:13.640
both of our stores. I bet you it'd sell too.

00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.779
And if we could do it kind of swag style with

00:31:16.779 --> 00:31:21.769
the screen being that way. Sorry, my internet

00:31:21.769 --> 00:31:27.490
went bad. Oh. That's okay. Yes, with the screens

00:31:27.490 --> 00:31:29.509
like that, that'd be really cool. I'm assuming

00:31:29.509 --> 00:31:32.750
that's what you said. Yeah, I said if we could

00:31:32.750 --> 00:31:35.369
do it swag style, where it's quick setup with

00:31:35.369 --> 00:31:38.930
a mattress in it, and then have that for screens,

00:31:39.009 --> 00:31:41.230
oh, it'd be chef's kiss. I think we'd do that.

00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:44.230
Do one that's another one that's more pop -up,

00:31:44.309 --> 00:31:47.930
like not the core, but the other one that's like

00:31:47.930 --> 00:31:52.359
over land -priced. Yeah. Wouldn't like the gazelle,

00:31:52.380 --> 00:31:55.259
but I want to do a gazelle with a full rain fly.

00:31:57.740 --> 00:32:00.180
Do gazelles not have a full rain fly? I don't

00:32:00.180 --> 00:32:06.099
think so. I know I was really impressed. I know

00:32:06.099 --> 00:32:09.440
I talk crap about the gazelles, but I was impressed

00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.799
with, yeah, they don't have a full rain fly.

00:32:13.500 --> 00:32:17.900
Chris. uh over the tracks or whatever across

00:32:17.900 --> 00:32:25.039
the tracks yeah um so he's got the gazelle the

00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.319
big one with basically two pop -ups yeah and

00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.720
when we were in kentucky dude it was fucking

00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.539
downpouring i mean just dumping buckets of water

00:32:34.539 --> 00:32:37.319
on us and i noticed that his windows were open

00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.319
so i went and closed them and there was almost

00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:41.339
no water in that thing i mean it was bone dry

00:32:41.339 --> 00:32:44.089
even with the windows wide open yeah Yeah, I

00:32:44.089 --> 00:32:47.190
mean, they're decent tents. I think there's just

00:32:47.190 --> 00:32:50.529
some quality control issues. That's a lot of

00:32:50.529 --> 00:32:54.450
things. It's quality control. Like, when you

00:32:54.450 --> 00:32:58.670
get a good gazelle, they're great. Yeah. But

00:32:58.670 --> 00:33:02.930
if you hit the lottery, well, the bad lottery,

00:33:03.009 --> 00:33:06.150
I guess, and you get a shitty one, it kind of

00:33:06.150 --> 00:33:11.750
ruins it, you know? My issue with gazelles is

00:33:11.750 --> 00:33:14.349
that they're glorified deer blinds, and they're

00:33:14.349 --> 00:33:16.930
that expensive, and they do have a quality control

00:33:16.930 --> 00:33:19.769
issue. Yeah. And you know what? I hate to say

00:33:19.769 --> 00:33:22.450
it, but a lot of shit nowadays is having quality

00:33:22.450 --> 00:33:26.029
control issues. Dude, it's just... That's why

00:33:26.029 --> 00:33:28.230
when I find a company that has good quality,

00:33:28.349 --> 00:33:30.549
I just stick with it. And you just hope to God

00:33:30.549 --> 00:33:33.430
that you're just one of the... Yeah. That you're

00:33:33.430 --> 00:33:37.980
not one of the few, you know? Like... Like the

00:33:37.980 --> 00:33:40.140
20 through zero thing. They have good quality,

00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:42.019
so that's who I'll stick with until they piss

00:33:42.019 --> 00:33:43.940
me off, in which case I'll find someone else.

00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.039
And it's funny because when you ask for recommendations,

00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.740
it's almost hard to ask anybody ever, ever for

00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:53.839
recommendations because their recommendation

00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:59.220
is based off of their experience. But for Oxbeam,

00:33:59.339 --> 00:34:02.740
this is a great comparison. Oxbeam. Yeah. I love

00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:05.019
my Oxbeam pods. They've done really well for

00:34:05.019 --> 00:34:07.470
me. I've never had an issue with them. And a

00:34:07.470 --> 00:34:11.070
couple of guys from MST are the same way. Alex,

00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:13.889
on the other hand, got a faulty set that fucked

00:34:13.889 --> 00:34:18.150
up, and then he tried to get a hold of customer

00:34:18.150 --> 00:34:20.429
service, and they fucked him over too. Well,

00:34:20.530 --> 00:34:22.309
they weren't responsive like they should have

00:34:22.309 --> 00:34:26.489
been at least. So it's like, on my hand, yes,

00:34:26.610 --> 00:34:30.050
they're great. The customer service I've experienced

00:34:30.050 --> 00:34:34.849
was good. Alex, complete opposite. So at what

00:34:34.849 --> 00:34:38.440
point? Who do you take? With Oxbeam, I'll tell

00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.920
you that I was just unlucky. I like Oxbeam. I

00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.000
think they make decent lights. I just am a little

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.639
more leery about purchasing Oxbeam stuff because

00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.280
of my customer service experience. And everybody

00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.659
knows customer service can make or break a company.

00:34:51.860 --> 00:34:55.820
So not being able, I mean, God, who is it? WeBoost.

00:34:56.019 --> 00:34:59.340
When I accidentally fried my fucking WeBoost,

00:34:59.460 --> 00:35:03.099
I got a hold of them, let them know the situation

00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:05.920
that it fried. And they were like, what's your

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.260
address? Told them my address. They're like,

00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:09.960
yep, we'll ship you out one. It's on the way.

00:35:10.420 --> 00:35:13.179
They got a hold of me within eight hours of me

00:35:13.179 --> 00:35:15.739
sending them the message, which is spectacular

00:35:15.739 --> 00:35:18.800
for me. That right there sold it as WeBoost being

00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:23.019
a great company for me. Well, an expo. Yeah.

00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.139
You know, I had my expo break and I reached out

00:35:26.139 --> 00:35:28.239
to them and it was within a week they'd sent

00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.119
me a new control box and had the winch working

00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:33.869
again. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah,

00:35:33.949 --> 00:35:38.070
it really does make it or break it. And if you

00:35:38.070 --> 00:35:40.630
remember, because it broke the day before we

00:35:40.630 --> 00:35:43.369
recorded, and I made the comment, this will be

00:35:43.369 --> 00:35:45.510
the determining factor on if Expo's worth it.

00:35:45.730 --> 00:35:48.170
I'll tell you right now, Expo's great. I love

00:35:48.170 --> 00:35:51.969
my Expo. Yep, it really is that important. So

00:35:51.969 --> 00:35:57.630
to you companies that start, you know, I don't

00:35:57.630 --> 00:35:59.409
know, start skimming a little bit when it comes

00:35:59.409 --> 00:36:02.099
to customer service, don't. Because a lot of

00:36:02.099 --> 00:36:04.920
us are going off of peer recommendations. Yep.

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.139
And we're going off of other people's experience

00:36:07.139 --> 00:36:09.679
when we're talking about this stuff. Especially

00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.039
now that Facebook groups are so big and everybody's

00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.199
going off of everybody else's questions. It's

00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.500
like, you guys want to make sure your shit's

00:36:18.500 --> 00:36:22.840
handled. Your customer service is good. You handle

00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.179
these complaints. And when I worked at Tractor

00:36:26.179 --> 00:36:29.519
Supply, their viewpoint was... was if the customer

00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.940
has an issue, figure it out. Get them situated

00:36:32.940 --> 00:36:36.699
because you have one mad customer that can affect

00:36:36.699 --> 00:36:40.280
a thousand customers. Makes one bad post on social

00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:44.119
media now and you lose a thousand customers or

00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.139
it goes viral and all of a sudden a million.

00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.079
So it only takes one. So at the end of the day,

00:36:50.219 --> 00:36:52.980
just figure it out, make sure they're happy.

00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:56.920
And you might lose a little money in the short

00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:59.440
term, but you're... You're gaining people, you

00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:03.860
know, long -term customers and return customers

00:37:03.860 --> 00:37:10.539
in the long run. Yeah. Yeah, and if you're not

00:37:10.539 --> 00:37:12.380
going to have good customer service, price your

00:37:12.380 --> 00:37:14.599
stuff cheap enough that it doesn't matter. Yeah,

00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.539
that we could just buy a new set because we don't

00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:20.610
want to deal with you. I mean, that's really

00:37:20.610 --> 00:37:23.269
the skinny of it. Like if it's going to be, I'd

00:37:23.269 --> 00:37:25.210
say it's going to be shitty customer service

00:37:25.210 --> 00:37:27.750
or you're not going to have it at all. I want

00:37:27.750 --> 00:37:32.769
$30 for a 40 inch light bar. Shut up. I would

00:37:32.769 --> 00:37:35.630
use, I'd use Bauer as an example, but I've actually

00:37:35.630 --> 00:37:37.590
had good customer service with them and their

00:37:37.590 --> 00:37:41.730
stuff's cheap. So yeah. Hey dude, look at that.

00:37:41.750 --> 00:37:44.489
We're at 37 already. Yeah, look at that. Blew

00:37:44.489 --> 00:37:46.110
right past our 30 -minute mark. That's what happens

00:37:46.110 --> 00:37:47.710
when you talk about wraps for seven minutes.

00:37:48.909 --> 00:37:53.730
Yeah. So, all right, guys. We will catch you

00:37:53.730 --> 00:37:54.809
guys later. Catch you on the flip.
