WEBVTT 00:00:19.780 --> 00:00:22.699 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:22.699 --> 00:00:25.079 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:25.379 --> 00:00:27.739 tent camping to rock landing, and all things 00:00:27.739 --> 00:00:32.899 to do with the outdoors. I got it now. I pulled 00:00:32.899 --> 00:00:36.240 up one that has everything. Just in case you 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:39.840 started towards the end of it. We're good. We're 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:45.659 not tent camping. Not tent camping. This is a 00:00:45.659 --> 00:00:48.719 wrap, guys. Hey, we're doing a wrap! It's been 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.920 like, whew, it's been a while. We actually have 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:56.039 a wrap to talk about. And with summer being over, 00:00:56.219 --> 00:00:59.240 we're not quite as busy as we have been. I mean, 00:00:59.259 --> 00:01:02.500 we still are, but not near as bad. Don't say 00:01:02.500 --> 00:01:08.159 summer over. Stop. Why? It's not over. It's not 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:10.700 over. Summer is almost over, and then we get 00:01:10.700 --> 00:01:13.159 the wonders of fall. And then when fall's over, 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:16.950 it's the best season of all. Winter! No, because 00:01:16.950 --> 00:01:21.909 I can't camp in winter yet. I can. Well, I can't. 00:01:21.950 --> 00:01:27.450 I'm close. I love fall. I gotta buy a tent. No, 00:01:27.549 --> 00:01:29.409 you gotta buy a tent piece. Yeah, I was about 00:01:29.409 --> 00:01:31.989 to say tent piece. It's actually a tent piece 00:01:31.989 --> 00:01:35.549 and not a tent. All Mark has to do is throw a 00:01:35.549 --> 00:01:38.709 large comforter over his tent and then put a 00:01:38.709 --> 00:01:41.810 tarp over that comforter and he's good. He's 00:01:41.810 --> 00:01:44.519 got insulation, waterproofing. And then he can 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.540 use his bag for the rest. That is basically what 00:01:48.540 --> 00:01:54.000 his inner liner is. When it gets cold, I think 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:56.180 I'm just going to bring a comforter. And I'm 00:01:56.180 --> 00:02:00.280 going to actually set it up on the inside. Just 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.400 kind of like put it up on the hanging peg. You 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:04.780 know what I mean? Like in the middle where you 00:02:04.780 --> 00:02:07.000 put your lantern. And just use that as a little 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:11.180 teepee tent. Keep us warm when it gets really 00:02:11.180 --> 00:02:16.180 cold. i've been perusing for some diesel heaters 00:02:16.180 --> 00:02:18.719 yeah we should all really get diesel heaters 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:23.080 just because i mean we really we really for like 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:26.919 me mark allen and even if i had a fourth tent 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:30.199 we really only need one so i've been thinking 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.080 about finding one for cheap and just plumbing 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:37.490 it yeah um Yeah, I found some I'm interested 00:02:37.490 --> 00:02:39.930 in. I don't want to spend more than like $100 00:02:39.930 --> 00:02:43.289 on it, but there's one I really like that is 00:02:43.289 --> 00:02:46.669 like $150. And the only thing I like about it 00:02:46.669 --> 00:02:49.030 is that it's raised up enough that I could put 00:02:49.030 --> 00:02:51.250 it in a packout and just send the exhaust out 00:02:51.250 --> 00:02:53.889 without having it melt the packout. I was going 00:02:53.889 --> 00:02:56.789 to say, you could probably do one in that packout 00:02:56.789 --> 00:02:59.789 cooler style or lunchbox style. You know what 00:02:59.789 --> 00:03:01.469 I mean? The tall, skinny ones like you have your 00:03:01.469 --> 00:03:06.240 battery in. Yeah. I also am curious if they can 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.460 run sideways, because if they can run sideways, 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:11.020 we can put it in any packout. And I'm thinking 00:03:11.020 --> 00:03:15.039 about doing one of the big packout XLs, because 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.539 then I could do like half of the packout as a 00:03:17.539 --> 00:03:21.900 diesel tank. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at one on 00:03:21.900 --> 00:03:25.979 Amazon that's like 230, but it's pre -built waterproof 00:03:25.979 --> 00:03:30.020 with the fuel tank in it. And it's like in the 00:03:30.020 --> 00:03:35.289 Apache case kind of style. It's smaller, so I'm 00:03:35.289 --> 00:03:38.530 kind of hoping that it'll be easier to just mount 00:03:38.530 --> 00:03:42.009 it on the side or mount it on the ground or whatever 00:03:42.009 --> 00:03:45.530 I've got to put it, plumb it straight in. I have 00:03:45.530 --> 00:03:49.689 the vestibule for my tent that touches the ground, 00:03:49.789 --> 00:03:52.509 so I'll probably throw a tarp down, hook my battery 00:03:52.509 --> 00:03:55.270 pack up to it, put the diesel heater just outside 00:03:55.270 --> 00:03:57.469 and have it plumb straight into the tent and 00:03:57.469 --> 00:04:03.710 be nice and cool. debating, and this sounds so 00:04:03.710 --> 00:04:06.530 bad because I don't want to cut my swag up, but 00:04:06.530 --> 00:04:08.830 I've been debating picking up a stove jack and 00:04:08.830 --> 00:04:11.610 installing the stove jack for the diesel heater. 00:04:12.310 --> 00:04:17.910 No. No. I probably will. I probably will. I don't 00:04:17.910 --> 00:04:21.850 think you need to. Just use your zippers. Yeah. 00:04:22.850 --> 00:04:25.689 Then I gotta worry about bugs coming in. In the 00:04:25.689 --> 00:04:30.540 winter? That's the joke. That was the joke. No, 00:04:30.540 --> 00:04:33.240 I don't want to hear it. I'd be more worried 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.860 about, like, frost or something. What, we got 00:04:35.860 --> 00:04:39.480 snow fleas now? I think there are. Well, I was 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:41.000 going to say, no, those sand fleas. I was going 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.459 to say, aren't there snow fleas? But, no. I swear 00:04:43.459 --> 00:04:47.579 there are. No, I swear there are snow fleas. 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.519 Maybe snow mites or something. Yeah. No, I totally 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.620 remembered these things. Yeah, snow fleas are 00:04:53.620 --> 00:04:58.939 a thing. Interesting. Well, we definitely didn't 00:04:58.939 --> 00:05:01.980 need them this last weekend, did we guys? No. 00:05:02.019 --> 00:05:05.519 It was fucking miserable. I didn't even have 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.939 the rain fly on for the first night. First, yeah, 00:05:09.019 --> 00:05:10.579 I was going to say the first two nights, right? 00:05:11.860 --> 00:05:15.680 Well, partly. We only camped two nights. Well, 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.600 first partly of two nights. We rushed and threw 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:20.980 it on randomly because someone thought it was 00:05:20.980 --> 00:05:24.750 going to rain. And other people said it wasn't 00:05:24.750 --> 00:05:27.170 going to rain the whole weekend, so we weren't 00:05:27.170 --> 00:05:29.029 really worried about it. But then it got real 00:05:29.029 --> 00:05:32.550 dark. It wasn't supposed to. Real cloudy. And 00:05:32.550 --> 00:05:35.610 we all kind of went with that first person's 00:05:35.610 --> 00:05:37.410 idea. It was like, well, better to have it and 00:05:37.410 --> 00:05:41.769 not need it. Good thing we had it. It fucking 00:05:41.769 --> 00:05:46.889 rained for a while. It did. I actually just today, 00:05:47.230 --> 00:05:50.660 well, last night I set the swag up because. my 00:05:50.660 --> 00:05:52.800 uh my friend cody and one of our buddies from 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.899 florida our buddy from florida just moved up 00:05:55.899 --> 00:05:58.740 here so we were having like a hangout thing so 00:05:58.740 --> 00:06:00.899 cody and our buddy came over and we hung out 00:06:00.899 --> 00:06:03.639 for a little while and turns out cody just got 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.319 back from australia and he's looking at my truck 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:08.939 he's like that bag on your roof looks like a 00:06:08.939 --> 00:06:12.399 giant swag and i'm like that's what it is yeah 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:16.759 surprise surprise I got that out to show him 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:19.939 because he just bought a something or other off 00:06:19.939 --> 00:06:23.100 -road swag while he was over there. And he thought 00:06:23.100 --> 00:06:25.300 that he was being all unique and stuff. And here 00:06:25.300 --> 00:06:28.579 I am having one for months before he even left 00:06:28.579 --> 00:06:33.579 for Australia. But yeah, so we set that up. And 00:06:33.579 --> 00:06:36.319 then today I got the hose out and rinsed it down 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:38.420 and swept the inside out and then rinsed that 00:06:38.420 --> 00:06:41.860 down and let it dry. And then through the... 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:44.220 mattress in it i haven't even taken my other 00:06:44.220 --> 00:06:48.319 truck yet i i'm gonna be honest i didn't love 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:52.519 that tent this weekend or that weekend i just 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:56.139 yeah it just wasn't it was massive and i know 00:06:56.139 --> 00:06:58.720 we were talking about having a vestibule but 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.019 as the weekend went it was like the vestibule 00:07:01.019 --> 00:07:04.199 became pointless because if we were in there 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:08.459 we were sleeping if we weren't in there um you 00:07:08.459 --> 00:07:11.610 know we were outside and If we wake up in there, 00:07:11.750 --> 00:07:15.149 the kid immediately opens the tent to go outside. 00:07:15.350 --> 00:07:17.310 He does not want to be in that tent any longer 00:07:17.310 --> 00:07:20.269 than he has to. And that was the thing is when 00:07:20.269 --> 00:07:22.149 I said that, I was thinking like if it rained, 00:07:22.170 --> 00:07:23.709 it'd be nice to have somewhere you could sit. 00:07:23.810 --> 00:07:27.970 But if the kid's sleeping, you can't really sit 00:07:27.970 --> 00:07:29.649 in there and do anything because it's just going 00:07:29.649 --> 00:07:33.810 to wake the kid up. Yeah. So not only that, it 00:07:33.810 --> 00:07:36.600 wasn't hard to put up. It was kind of a pain 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:38.819 in the ass with it soaking wet and covered in 00:07:38.819 --> 00:07:42.699 dirt to put back. And as we were trying to pack 00:07:42.699 --> 00:07:46.339 it up, get it packed down into that little bag 00:07:46.339 --> 00:07:50.120 it was in, we were just like, dude, this kind 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:53.959 of, I don't know if this is our thing. I'm typically 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:58.399 a full water or full rain shell kind of guy, 00:07:58.459 --> 00:08:02.459 a rain fly kind of guy. it leaked in a couple 00:08:02.459 --> 00:08:04.819 different places not horrible but enough to have 00:08:04.819 --> 00:08:08.699 a little puddle in there and it's just one of 00:08:08.699 --> 00:08:10.720 those things where it was like i don't think 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:14.079 this is gonna make its second debut on the coast 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:17.139 of lake superior you know i think that's no i 00:08:17.139 --> 00:08:21.720 i agreed with you as i was watching you use it 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:26.000 i'm like man that's like the size is nice I can't 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.379 fault it for its size, but what I can fault it 00:08:28.379 --> 00:08:33.299 for is it's not designed well. I think the only 00:08:33.299 --> 00:08:36.679 thing I think it had going was a setup in the 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:40.320 poles. Yeah, everything else sucked, and I'm 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.559 on your side with that. It wasn't great. It'd 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.860 only be really okay if you had a cot, and even 00:08:45.860 --> 00:08:49.519 then... Yeah, and it was like, with it being 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:55.259 so large, we had such a... a large amount of 00:08:55.259 --> 00:08:58.200 space on either side of where we were we were 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:02.720 rolling off we like we had no i couldn't hug 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:06.620 the wall like i like to because it's cooler uh 00:09:06.620 --> 00:09:09.799 right you know and the kid was like pushing us 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:12.220 off the side he couldn't get comfortable and 00:09:12.220 --> 00:09:16.220 it was just weird it was like like even the sixth 00:09:16.220 --> 00:09:18.919 person we have it's a little tighter it's a little 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:23.210 bit more uh I don't know, man. I can't explain 00:09:23.210 --> 00:09:25.850 it, but all I know is we slept like shit the 00:09:25.850 --> 00:09:28.549 first night, and I think part of it was just, 00:09:28.690 --> 00:09:33.210 it's almost like being in a new house. Like, 00:09:33.210 --> 00:09:36.730 you know what I mean? So, just, I was like, huh, 00:09:36.789 --> 00:09:40.549 I can't fucking sleep here. They do make a smaller 00:09:40.549 --> 00:09:43.309 one, and honestly, I think, not telling you you 00:09:43.309 --> 00:09:46.649 should get another core tent, but if you were, 00:09:46.789 --> 00:09:49.190 I think that that would be a much better option. 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.740 um because it'd be faster to set up faster to 00:09:52.740 --> 00:09:56.759 tear down than that big one and it just it's 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.840 not big you know what i mean yeah yeah we just 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:04.419 don't need anything this big and the uh and if 00:10:04.419 --> 00:10:08.220 i was to get another four person five or six 00:10:08.220 --> 00:10:11.139 person it would be a full rainfly which i'm sure 00:10:11.139 --> 00:10:13.080 they have one because they have a full rainfly 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:17.539 for the 12 person too it's just i didn't we just 00:10:17.539 --> 00:10:20.100 didn't need it it's It's one of those things 00:10:20.100 --> 00:10:24.340 where it takes up more space, it's heavy, and 00:10:24.340 --> 00:10:28.919 it's a cabin tent. Right. And if we utilized 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.340 that space, that'd be one thing, but we were 00:10:31.340 --> 00:10:34.919 not at all. Yeah, and with it being a cabin tent, 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.200 it's just different than what you tend to need. 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:43.360 Yeah. So, I get it. But, other than that, what 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:47.039 I did like about it was that... There was a lot 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:51.399 of area to open windows. You could really let 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:55.759 a breeze go in through there. If there was a 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:59.200 breeze, it would have been really nice. But that 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.240 first night, it was dead. There was no breeze 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:06.240 whatsoever. Thank God for my fan. That was the 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.159 only thing that saved me from maybe just going 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:13.820 home because I was sweating. But other than that, 00:11:13.860 --> 00:11:16.639 you know. It was good. That was the first time. 00:11:16.740 --> 00:11:20.080 Well, that was the second time. So the kids camp 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.580 Saturday, that was hotter than what we had by 00:11:24.580 --> 00:11:28.980 a good long shot. And Sienna and I and the kid 00:11:28.980 --> 00:11:33.019 were in that smaller six person. And we were 00:11:33.019 --> 00:11:36.720 like, we're about ready to go home. We were soaked 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:41.259 in sweat. It was so hot that night. So that started 00:11:41.259 --> 00:11:44.139 making me think about, you know, ACs aren't the. 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:50.320 worse you know so i i just went down that road 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.820 too and it just to get an ac that can reliably 00:11:54.820 --> 00:11:58.899 run for more than like four hours it's just it's 00:11:58.899 --> 00:12:02.559 so much money it is a lot of money and and a 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.620 lot of effort and a lot of extra space to take 00:12:04.620 --> 00:12:09.940 up and honestly i can deal with it like i don't 00:12:09.940 --> 00:12:12.360 want to It's a creature comfort, but I can deal 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:14.860 with it. I put a fan on. I'll eventually fall 00:12:14.860 --> 00:12:18.759 asleep. It's just miserable until I do. And I'm 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:22.220 at the point of maybe I just don't camp in July. 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:26.379 I know this one was August, but it was really 00:12:26.379 --> 00:12:29.059 early August. Yeah, and I was kind of the same 00:12:29.059 --> 00:12:30.720 way, too. I talked to Sian about this, and I 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:34.879 was like, maybe if we start camping in the summer 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:37.940 like this, it's only in the north, like where 00:12:37.940 --> 00:12:41.929 it is generally cooler. Because we're on the 00:12:41.929 --> 00:12:44.830 coast of Lake Superior or Lake Michigan up north, 00:12:44.909 --> 00:12:46.850 and you have that wind blowing. It's automatically 00:12:46.850 --> 00:12:50.330 a little cooler than being inland as far as we 00:12:50.330 --> 00:12:55.269 were. And it was, yeah, it was just, I mean, 00:12:55.309 --> 00:12:59.269 the camping experience is great aside from that. 00:12:59.370 --> 00:13:03.570 But, man, those two days, though, that whole 00:13:03.570 --> 00:13:06.490 weekend was just horrible until it rained. Thank 00:13:06.490 --> 00:13:11.750 God. Yeah, it is. I slept like shit both nights, 00:13:11.809 --> 00:13:14.490 but that was just because we had the dogs with 00:13:14.490 --> 00:13:16.629 us, and there's just nowhere for them to sleep 00:13:16.629 --> 00:13:20.009 when we have the swag. I mean, it's great if 00:13:20.009 --> 00:13:22.450 it's just me, Kaylin, and Jackson, and maybe 00:13:22.450 --> 00:13:25.210 one dog, it's fine. But as soon... Okay, as long 00:13:25.210 --> 00:13:27.230 as it's Mercy. As soon as you add Wrangler to 00:13:27.230 --> 00:13:32.429 the mix, we're done for. Yeah. Especially because 00:13:32.429 --> 00:13:35.250 he slept with us the second night. The first 00:13:35.250 --> 00:13:37.830 night, I made him sleep in the truck. But he 00:13:37.830 --> 00:13:40.720 was having... hip problems so he wouldn't even 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.259 lay down like he was constantly getting up that 00:13:43.259 --> 00:13:45.960 whole night and it was driving me nuts yeah he 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:49.220 was not feeling good poor puppy so i slept good 00:13:49.220 --> 00:13:51.700 the first night because i came back from a work 00:13:51.700 --> 00:13:55.159 show so i was really tired yeah but that second 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.700 night i had a hard time getting comfortable in 00:13:57.700 --> 00:14:00.019 the mattress pad i have so i'm gonna have to 00:14:00.019 --> 00:14:03.519 look in to get a different one i think most of 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.129 my problem with the one i have is that it's not 00:14:06.129 --> 00:14:09.049 meant for the cot it's more for um you're right 00:14:09.049 --> 00:14:13.850 uh mummy style sleeping bags right right you 00:14:13.850 --> 00:14:18.789 should you should try my uh my actual army issued 00:14:18.789 --> 00:14:22.610 one yeah i know it doesn't get as thick and it 00:14:22.610 --> 00:14:24.529 doesn't have as much of an r value i'm not worried 00:14:24.529 --> 00:14:27.909 about r value right now but that's what my solution 00:14:27.909 --> 00:14:32.409 is i gotta look into that style And I mean, oh, 00:14:32.529 --> 00:14:34.289 what's the worst that happens? You have to get 00:14:34.289 --> 00:14:38.549 two of them to up the R value? Yeah. Which is 00:14:38.549 --> 00:14:42.710 probably not a bad idea, honestly. And with the 00:14:42.710 --> 00:14:44.230 Army -issued ones, you can get them for like 00:14:44.230 --> 00:14:47.610 $40. So $80 for a decent R value, that's not 00:14:47.610 --> 00:14:51.330 bad. No. Oh. Also, something I wanted to add, 00:14:51.409 --> 00:14:54.590 too, is because of the rain and packing up the 00:14:54.590 --> 00:14:57.350 tent, it was more miserable than it needed to 00:14:57.350 --> 00:14:59.529 be with all the dirt on the bottom of it. My 00:14:59.529 --> 00:15:03.679 other tents. I have my dagger. It has a built 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:08.299 -in moisture barrier that you lay out first that 00:15:08.299 --> 00:15:13.299 helps with that. And my other one, we typically 00:15:13.299 --> 00:15:15.700 have a small tarp that we put under it or a canvas 00:15:15.700 --> 00:15:20.940 tarp for packing. Yeah, I need to order or get 00:15:20.940 --> 00:15:23.620 a tarp for my swag because what I usually do 00:15:23.620 --> 00:15:26.929 is I open up the bag. And the bag works as a 00:15:26.929 --> 00:15:29.169 ground sheet, right? So the tent lays on top 00:15:29.169 --> 00:15:31.789 of the bag and that is your ground sheet. But 00:15:31.789 --> 00:15:35.049 this camping trip in particular, that bag got 00:15:35.049 --> 00:15:38.350 so full of water and dirt that when I folded 00:15:38.350 --> 00:15:40.149 it up, like when I opened it the other day, there 00:15:40.149 --> 00:15:43.309 was standing water in the bag. So I'm like, well, 00:15:43.409 --> 00:15:47.090 I got to do something about this. Yeah. I'm kind 00:15:47.090 --> 00:15:49.210 of like when our bag was soaked too, because 00:15:49.210 --> 00:15:53.639 we left it outside, but yeah. Yeah. One of those 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.059 things where you're just kind of like, all right, 00:15:55.059 --> 00:15:58.720 we need to adjust our plan a little bit. But 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:02.399 we had fun. Alan went fishing and stuff, and 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:05.320 he did a lot of fishing. Caught literally nothing. 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.139 Caught literally nothing, but I think it was 00:16:07.139 --> 00:16:10.919 the bait he was using. Using just the wrong type 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:12.980 at the wrong time of day kind of thing. Because 00:16:12.980 --> 00:16:16.159 that was basically a pond, and he was trying 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:19.559 to run frogs and stuff. And in a pond, really 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:21.019 the only thing you're going to catch anything 00:16:21.019 --> 00:16:25.899 on is worms. Like, it's not like a lake. A lake, 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.799 you can catch stuff with actual bait, but in 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.460 a pond, it tends to be worms. Maybe minnows. 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:38.299 Sometimes flies, but yeah. Yeah. Gotta be small 00:16:38.299 --> 00:16:41.559 stuff. No, it's fun. I threw the canoe on the 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.159 roof, so we had the canoe out there. Yep. We 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:49.700 did a bunch of trash cleanup, and... cleaned 00:16:49.700 --> 00:16:52.200 up the site really good everybody started helping 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.159 and doing that and uh aside from some stuff that 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.460 we just couldn't pick up or stuff that we weren't 00:16:58.460 --> 00:17:00.840 gonna risk touching because it's a potential 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.299 yeah potential biohazard other than that it was 00:17:04.299 --> 00:17:07.920 pretty good i think all we left behind was that 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.920 poop bucket and the bed spring the glass but 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.099 that was like i said that's there's no way that 00:17:14.099 --> 00:17:16.960 we'd be able to pick that up someone like shattered 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:19.119 one of those windows that didn't have a protection 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.539 so there was a bunch of like quarter inch by 00:17:22.539 --> 00:17:25.519 quarter inch shards of glass in one area it was 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:28.440 like we didn't have any kind of way to sieve 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:32.559 it out it just wasn't yeah any way to do it but 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:37.599 other than that we did some uh what was it saturday 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.559 we went looking out for some water to swim at 00:17:42.380 --> 00:17:44.980 And all the traveling we did, and we didn't really 00:17:44.980 --> 00:17:48.700 find much. We found a riverside park that we 00:17:48.700 --> 00:17:50.880 stopped at, and a couple of us just got in the 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.140 water for a little bit. No swimming was had. 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.519 No nice beaches near us or anything, unfortunately. 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:02.579 There might have been. We just had to look a 00:18:02.579 --> 00:18:07.000 little harder. Yeah. Doing it on the go is always 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:09.920 a little harder than kind of knowing what's there 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.789 beforehand. It was still fun. I like the driving 00:18:13.789 --> 00:18:16.390 around part. I got some good rollers of everybody. 00:18:16.809 --> 00:18:21.289 Oh, yeah. Got a little bit more content. So if 00:18:21.289 --> 00:18:24.390 you see any rollers on our Instagram here any 00:18:24.390 --> 00:18:27.670 time recently of any of the trucks here, it's 00:18:27.670 --> 00:18:32.549 some rollers that we got that weekend. Yeah, 00:18:32.589 --> 00:18:35.970 your reels have been pretty funny. They've been 00:18:35.970 --> 00:18:40.140 pretty good reels. Yeah. i'm trying to slow down 00:18:40.140 --> 00:18:42.440 a little bit i'm scheduling them out i'm doing 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.359 like three or four or five of them and then just 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:47.759 scheduling them um so i'm not doing like five 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:52.440 at one time so i really like the need for speed 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.200 one though yeah those are pretty cool yeah yeah 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:58.559 i was uh messing with cap cut on that and then 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:01.839 i'm now i'm messing on filmora a little bit um 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:05.569 filmora's got a lot of stuff on it too I just 00:19:05.569 --> 00:19:07.529 found a really cool thing with Instagram edits 00:19:07.529 --> 00:19:09.809 where you can make your own cutouts. Oh, yeah. 00:19:10.170 --> 00:19:14.289 It's really intuitive. Because I could do it 00:19:14.289 --> 00:19:17.210 before with CapCut and stuff, but it's way, way 00:19:17.210 --> 00:19:21.470 better with edits. So I'm hoping that they flush 00:19:21.470 --> 00:19:25.150 that out a little better. Yeah, it's really cool 00:19:25.150 --> 00:19:30.210 with Filmora and CapCut because you can use AI 00:19:30.210 --> 00:19:35.279 to help you find a template. And then you can 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.779 switch to different templates. So I've been dabbling 00:19:37.779 --> 00:19:39.720 with that a little bit too. Like the Need for 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:45.519 Speed one was an AI -suggested template. So I 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.740 selected three tracks or three videos that I 00:19:48.740 --> 00:19:53.160 wanted to try to mess with. And then I described 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.420 what I was kind of looking for. And then they 00:19:56.420 --> 00:19:58.599 gave me a bunch of different templates that might 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:00.700 work for me. And then I kind of go through there, 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:04.950 select them, crop the vehicles. change the timing 00:20:04.950 --> 00:20:09.009 so that it shows more of the vehicle, and then 00:20:09.009 --> 00:20:11.970 change the wording or whatever, and then post 00:20:11.970 --> 00:20:15.109 it. So it still takes some time, but it does 00:20:15.109 --> 00:20:18.450 help me kind of narrow down some templates too 00:20:18.450 --> 00:20:21.809 that makes it a little easier. So that's nice. 00:20:22.069 --> 00:20:25.769 I love the promo you made for cords and calf, 00:20:25.990 --> 00:20:28.490 even if you misspelled cords and calf. Did I? 00:20:29.609 --> 00:20:33.009 Yeah, you spelled it C -O -R -D -S and cafe. 00:20:34.269 --> 00:20:39.970 It must have auto -corrected because I know for 00:20:39.970 --> 00:20:44.710 a fact I typed in C -O -O -R -D. I called it 00:20:44.710 --> 00:20:48.289 out in the group chat before you posted it, and 00:20:48.289 --> 00:20:49.450 then you posted it, and I'm like, ah, whatever. 00:20:49.690 --> 00:20:52.450 I didn't even see you call it out. That's the 00:20:52.450 --> 00:21:02.039 issue. I saw that you sent it out. Yeah, I don't 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:11.839 even see it. That's okay. We'll take that one 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.839 down at some point and I'll edit it and put it 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.299 back up or something like that maybe. We'll see. 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:21.920 But yeah, it was a really clean video. I'd love 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.119 to get that one fixed and cut off the CapCut 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:28.559 part at the end. And then we can make a few more 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:31.819 of those and upload them. Yeah, just do different 00:21:31.819 --> 00:21:36.119 rigs. Yeah. Because we could start using those 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:44.519 every month. Or episode. Yeah, that too. You 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:46.579 could do it. You could drop it every episode. 00:21:46.619 --> 00:21:50.940 Just put the title of it. Keep it fresh. Yeah, 00:21:50.980 --> 00:21:53.680 you know. Put a couple vehicles. New episode 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:59.259 out. Now that we're 20 minutes in, what's everyone's 00:21:59.259 --> 00:22:03.960 weekend plans this weekend? I'm kind of hoping 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:08.500 to get my table slide reconfigured. Oh, yeah, 00:22:08.539 --> 00:22:11.259 I did that. I put a table slide in my truck. 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:15.420 I forgot about that. Yeah, we'll have to talk 00:22:15.420 --> 00:22:17.980 about that at some point. Yes, we will. And then 00:22:17.980 --> 00:22:23.779 if I have the motivation, the weather cooperates, 00:22:23.779 --> 00:22:28.819 I might work on some lighting. Yeah, Gavin, do 00:22:28.819 --> 00:22:31.220 you got anything planned this weekend? Clean 00:22:31.220 --> 00:22:34.779 the truck out, reorganize it, take inventory, 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:39.220 make a checklist of what I need, what I don't 00:22:39.220 --> 00:22:43.859 need, and get it ready for Labor Day. Yeah, I'm 00:22:43.859 --> 00:22:46.700 going up to my grandpa's camping this weekend 00:22:46.700 --> 00:22:53.180 in rain and thunderstorms. That'll be fun. Like 00:22:53.180 --> 00:22:54.940 I was telling you guys, I plan on just taking 00:22:54.940 --> 00:22:57.220 the canopy up and then putting the swag in the 00:22:57.220 --> 00:23:00.819 canopy. Yep. Just for that extra little bit of 00:23:00.819 --> 00:23:03.099 dry space, but still having plenty of bed space. 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:09.740 Mm -hmm. So... Yeah, it'll be interesting. I 00:23:09.740 --> 00:23:11.720 thought about just taking the $100 tent, to be 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:14.480 honest, but the problem with taking the $100 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.819 tent is then I got to get my cot, and my cot 00:23:16.819 --> 00:23:24.019 has a hole in the air mattress, so... Yeah. Yeah, 00:23:24.019 --> 00:23:28.000 some idiot left it outside. The cot's not bad. 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.799 No, I'm talking about the tent. That's not even 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.619 that bad. I know. You just lay it down and pull 00:23:34.619 --> 00:23:40.640 it tight. $100 tent. Is that the Walmart one 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:43.740 or whatever? Yes. Yeah, that one that we bought 00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:48.180 two of them. You can borrow mine. You can borrow 00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:52.950 that core. Yeah, it leaves me in the same boat 00:23:52.950 --> 00:23:56.470 where I'd have to have my cot, though. And the 00:23:56.470 --> 00:24:01.670 mattress has a hole in it. A giant cot. That's 00:24:01.670 --> 00:24:06.869 fun. I bet you that if you took the zippers from 00:24:06.869 --> 00:24:08.789 that core tent and pulled them up to the top 00:24:08.789 --> 00:24:10.569 instead of having them near the bottom, it would 00:24:10.569 --> 00:24:15.150 stop that leak. A lot of times with that style 00:24:15.150 --> 00:24:18.450 tent, that's where your issue usually is. They 00:24:18.450 --> 00:24:20.759 have covers over the zippers, though. I was going 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.880 to say, isn't it an L zipper? So it only goes 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.039 down and then side? They have, it's a little 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:28.319 flap that goes over the whole zipper section. 00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:31.359 So I don't understand how it was getting in. 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.359 Yeah, I'd have to look at it. I don't mind if 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:37.920 I don't have the zippers like up to a corner, 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:41.960 then it leaks really bad. Yeah. No, I, that is 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.700 a, it's a valid point, but it does have like 00:24:45.700 --> 00:24:51.029 an. inch cover. A little plastic tent cover or 00:24:51.029 --> 00:24:53.029 whatever that goes over the zipper. It's sort 00:24:53.029 --> 00:24:56.809 of fine. How the fuck does the water get in there 00:24:56.809 --> 00:25:00.170 then? Mine's a flap like this. Mine's a flap 00:25:00.170 --> 00:25:02.049 like this and if I don't have the zippers in 00:25:02.049 --> 00:25:06.009 just the right spot, it leaks. So weird. Such 00:25:06.009 --> 00:25:08.369 a weird design flaw. It's almost like they didn't 00:25:08.369 --> 00:25:11.289 seam tape that top part of that and it's just 00:25:11.289 --> 00:25:14.670 seeping in through the top. They may not have. 00:25:14.849 --> 00:25:17.769 Who knows? I didn't look for seam tape, did you? 00:25:17.930 --> 00:25:23.170 No. I just assumed it would be waterproof. And 00:25:23.170 --> 00:25:27.730 you know what assuming does. Yeah, I mean... 00:25:27.730 --> 00:25:35.569 I don't hate the design of the quartet. I just... 00:25:35.569 --> 00:25:38.890 I think the four -person would probably be better 00:25:38.890 --> 00:25:44.740 overall. Yeah. I don't know. I love our six -person. 00:25:44.819 --> 00:25:49.579 We bought that for $140. And that thing has, 00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:52.640 other than the tent poles being kind of heavy, 00:25:52.819 --> 00:25:57.859 other than that, that thing has been just a trooper. 00:25:58.180 --> 00:26:01.519 It survived. Of course. I had to ratchet strap 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:05.180 to this truck, but it survived being in the middle 00:26:05.180 --> 00:26:09.420 of a fucking windstorm on Lake Superior. It survived 00:26:09.420 --> 00:26:14.299 many rains with no... uh leaking issues whatsoever 00:26:14.299 --> 00:26:20.480 no water in at all um we had two inches of water 00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:23.619 in it earlier spring kids camp underneath it 00:26:23.619 --> 00:26:26.000 and it was acting like a water bed and we had 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.819 no water inside so that thing has been awesome 00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:33.759 too bad you didn't just have like 400 sitting 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:38.319 around to get one of the uh asasia tents asasia 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.589 never heard of them i'll send you a link It's 00:26:41.589 --> 00:26:43.569 like an upgrade. You've seen them for sure, though. 00:26:43.890 --> 00:26:47.410 It's an upgrade from the Gazelle. Basically. 00:26:50.009 --> 00:26:52.329 They pop up like a Gazelle, but they have better 00:26:52.329 --> 00:26:55.130 doors and windows, and they're better waterproofed. 00:26:55.750 --> 00:26:58.670 They have an inflatable base that you can get 00:26:58.670 --> 00:27:01.549 for them. Oh, like that tent we were looking 00:27:01.549 --> 00:27:09.099 at last week? With the inflatable bottom? It's 00:27:09.099 --> 00:27:12.019 that type of material, yeah. But the air floor 00:27:12.019 --> 00:27:17.599 is like another $370 fucking dollars. Nice. I 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:23.740 mean, they're very cool tents. Oh, I totally 00:27:23.740 --> 00:27:25.720 just sent the links, but I didn't send them to 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.859 you. I sent them to someone else. Yeah, I was 00:27:28.859 --> 00:27:31.039 looking. Didn't see it in my camera. I was like, 00:27:31.140 --> 00:27:34.900 where's the link? I can't want to look. Yeah, 00:27:34.900 --> 00:27:38.430 so, I mean, one of those might... be good for 00:27:38.430 --> 00:27:41.109 you guys, but again, they're fucking ridiculously 00:27:41.109 --> 00:27:52.490 expensive. Oh, yeah. Like, you've definitely 00:27:52.490 --> 00:27:55.450 seen them before. Or at least seen pictures of 00:27:55.450 --> 00:28:01.630 them. Alright, alright. That's the one I have. 00:28:02.210 --> 00:28:08.299 Yeah. Oh, I thought you were talking about the 00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:12.359 link I sent. I'm like, no, you don't. Yeah, I 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.359 do like having the rain fly that far over it. 00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.839 I do like your Colorado. It's a pretty nice stat. 00:28:20.619 --> 00:28:23.220 Yeah, dude, for what it is. For the price, too. 00:28:23.339 --> 00:28:30.940 I mean, it is not bad. I don't understand where 00:28:30.940 --> 00:28:35.859 I went good on that. I took a chance. Turned 00:28:35.859 --> 00:28:37.400 out really well. Did I send the same one twice? 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.440 Son of a bitch. Yeah. Yeah, you did. Full rain 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:50.440 fly. Three season. Yeah, it's... Yeah, this is 00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:56.940 the air floor for it. Oh, you're Colorado? Yeah, 00:28:56.940 --> 00:28:58.819 I haven't looked at it online. I haven't looked 00:28:58.819 --> 00:29:04.140 at the specs. The... space a saucy or whatever 00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:07.099 the hell they call it they're just they're really 00:29:07.099 --> 00:29:10.420 decent that might i don't know that's why i said 00:29:10.420 --> 00:29:12.819 i don't know what it's called i don't know either 00:29:12.819 --> 00:29:18.220 oh it floats on water too yeah see yeah yeah 00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:21.319 they're they're just super nice tents for what 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.940 they are um yeah and the inflatable base is cool 00:29:24.940 --> 00:29:27.839 i don't know of a world where i would necessarily 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:32.569 use the inflatable base but I mean, you deflate 00:29:32.569 --> 00:29:34.789 it a little bit. Well, I was going to say you 00:29:34.789 --> 00:29:37.789 deflate it a little bit, and we use our sleeping 00:29:37.789 --> 00:29:39.990 pads like that, so you could probably just sleep 00:29:39.990 --> 00:29:44.450 on it like that as an actual mattress. Maybe. 00:29:44.529 --> 00:29:50.029 Because those would be pretty comfortable. But 00:29:50.029 --> 00:29:55.490 I do know that it's a lot more cold weather friendly 00:29:55.490 --> 00:29:59.400 than a gazelle. and with that inflatable base 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.819 it raises the r value inside the tent a boatload 00:30:02.819 --> 00:30:08.720 yeah yeah yeah i uh i really hope that i won't 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.900 have to buy another tent so i i love looking 00:30:11.900 --> 00:30:16.019 at tents like i look at them a lot um just because 00:30:16.019 --> 00:30:19.930 they're so cool um There was one I wanted a long 00:30:19.930 --> 00:30:22.089 time ago. I think it was called HemiPlanet or 00:30:22.089 --> 00:30:26.490 something. It was a fully inflatable tube, like 00:30:26.490 --> 00:30:29.849 the structure was inflatable. Oh, my God. Yeah, 00:30:29.849 --> 00:30:34.170 I've seen those. It was like $1 ,000, and it 00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:43.650 was sick. Yeah, HemiPlanet, original. Yeah, that 00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:47.720 was sick. I looked at it just for the... The 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:51.000 way that it looked. Everyone was staying structurally. 00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:55.579 It was really cool. That was just kind of my 00:30:55.579 --> 00:31:00.160 thing. I really want the Apex modular tent system 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.279 because you can zip multiple tents together. 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.359 It's just hard to actually bite the bullet and 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.259 buy it. When we were going to buy it, they were 00:31:12.259 --> 00:31:17.289 sold out. We were going to buy that when we bought 00:31:17.289 --> 00:31:20.349 the $100 tent. That was the original plan. Right. 00:31:20.849 --> 00:31:22.690 Yeah, I sent a link to that Hemi planet. That 00:31:22.690 --> 00:31:26.869 thing is just so cool. The giant tent thing that 00:31:26.869 --> 00:31:29.849 we can put together. Yeah, I sent a link to the 00:31:29.849 --> 00:31:34.250 Apex, too. Yeah, the Apex. Yeah, a little tent 00:31:34.250 --> 00:31:37.210 city going on. Dude, that Hemi planet's fucking 00:31:37.210 --> 00:31:43.299 wild. Yeah, isn't that sick? It's so cool. It 00:31:43.299 --> 00:31:49.299 kind of reminds me... Yeah. And all those tubes 00:31:49.299 --> 00:31:52.880 have, like, baffles in it, so if one part, like, 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.799 pops or something or rips, it shouldn't bring 00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:57.380 down the rest of the tent. It should be fine. 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.039 And it supposedly can handle some heavy wind. 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.500 It reminds me of that other Light Fighter tent. 00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:11.710 The Catamount? Yeah. that reminds me of this 00:32:11.710 --> 00:32:15.250 guy it's i still want like i've i have the same 00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:17.809 problem with tense dude like i want a light fighter 00:32:17.809 --> 00:32:21.509 light fighter 2 so bad but i have literally no 00:32:21.509 --> 00:32:25.230 use for one because i have the swag yeah it's 00:32:25.230 --> 00:32:30.049 so nice dude 11 it's 11 pounds double rip stop 00:32:30.049 --> 00:32:36.529 oh dude so cool they even have an xl now which 00:32:36.529 --> 00:32:40.190 is the bigger the bigger version That puts it 00:32:40.190 --> 00:32:41.950 really close to a catamount thing, because a 00:32:41.950 --> 00:32:46.710 catamount's 10 .9 pounds. Similar footprint, 00:32:46.990 --> 00:32:49.630 similar, like, obviously not inflatable, but 00:32:49.630 --> 00:32:51.950 similar structure design with, like, the multiple 00:32:51.950 --> 00:32:56.009 pole hoops like that. Takes one minute to inflate. 00:32:58.450 --> 00:33:01.710 The thing, the reason I like Light Fighter Tent 00:33:01.710 --> 00:33:04.029 so much is that you can just buy parts for them, 00:33:04.109 --> 00:33:06.650 like, readily just go buy parts from their website. 00:33:07.069 --> 00:33:11.920 Yeah. But, I mean, same thing with 23 .0. If 00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.000 I break the swag, I can just call them up and 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:18.920 get order parts. So. Yeah, customer service is 00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:20.500 always something I don't want to look into when 00:33:20.500 --> 00:33:24.279 you're buying tents and stuff like that. Especially 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.240 if you're spending lots of money on them. Yeah. 00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:34.599 Yeah, $1 ,200 at that point. Yeah. If you're 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.119 buying a $140 tent. probably don't need to worry 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.960 as much about customer service but what i'd say 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.960 once you hit like that that 400 mark that's where 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.259 i'd really start caring about customer service 00:33:46.259 --> 00:33:53.920 yeah yeah because after after you hit 400 it's 00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.980 not like you can just drop it and go buy another 00:33:55.980 --> 00:34:02.140 tent right away right so no no that and that's 00:34:02.140 --> 00:34:08.679 a lot of money to to spend on it too like Well, 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.480 we're at our 30 minutes already, dude. Yeah, 00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:14.519 I was going to say, it's time to collar it up 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:20.239 and get out of here. All right. Yeah, thanks, 00:34:20.300 --> 00:34:25.539 guys. It's nice doing a... Fuck, what do we call 00:34:25.539 --> 00:34:29.179 these? Rap. It's nice doing a rap again. We're 00:34:29.179 --> 00:34:31.679 going to be doing these weekly again. Like I 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.539 said, things just got a little crazy over the 00:34:33.539 --> 00:34:35.380 summer, and we just didn't have the time to do 00:34:35.380 --> 00:34:38.940 it. We'll see you on the next one for the next 00:34:38.940 --> 00:34:42.860 sandwich. Catch you later. Later.