WEBVTT 00:00:16.269 --> 00:00:19.230 Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk 00:00:19.230 --> 00:00:21.510 about everything from gear reviews to trail stories, 00:00:21.750 --> 00:00:23.989 tent camping to rock landing, and all things 00:00:23.989 --> 00:00:28.170 to do with the outdoors. Today is our 5K Truck 00:00:28.170 --> 00:00:32.789 Challenge for me, Mark, and Gavin. I've got Gavin 00:00:32.789 --> 00:00:37.310 here in my studio and Mark in my extra studio 00:00:37.310 --> 00:00:40.229 upstairs because no one has good working internet 00:00:40.229 --> 00:00:44.869 or time to do stuff. Yep. Also, I haven't heard 00:00:44.869 --> 00:00:49.530 today, so. Yeah. So we're all in one house for 00:00:49.530 --> 00:00:52.030 the most part. All we've got that's not is Duncan, 00:00:52.210 --> 00:00:56.229 our judge for the event. You know, we probably 00:00:56.229 --> 00:00:58.149 should have sent those truck submissions to each 00:00:58.149 --> 00:01:01.890 other so that we could look at them while we 00:01:01.890 --> 00:01:07.170 go through them. I can see. Yeah, actually do 00:01:07.170 --> 00:01:09.030 that. I was going to say I might be able to share 00:01:09.030 --> 00:01:12.189 them with each of you, but. I start them all, 00:01:12.230 --> 00:01:17.170 so I've got them all open. I can send mine. I'll 00:01:17.170 --> 00:01:20.069 just send it to the group chat. It's over here, 00:01:20.170 --> 00:01:25.209 so I can see it. Gavin, do you... Duncan, could 00:01:25.209 --> 00:01:27.409 you send Gavin's? Or can you do it, Gavin? I 00:01:27.409 --> 00:01:33.890 might be able to. Cool. We are very ill -prepared 00:01:33.890 --> 00:01:37.469 today, guys, because we, like I said, we're recording 00:01:37.469 --> 00:01:40.400 on a Thursday instead of on a... Wednesday, and 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:44.760 it just... The whole cycle's screwed up. Okay. 00:01:51.980 --> 00:01:58.060 I got mine up there. Y 'all are waiting on his 00:01:58.060 --> 00:02:02.680 mark. Yeah, hold on a second. So we could probably 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:06.099 just... Well, we, you, can probably just each 00:02:06.099 --> 00:02:08.789 take a turn to describe your setup. Yep. what 00:02:08.789 --> 00:02:11.430 you did, why you did it. And then, yeah, once 00:02:11.430 --> 00:02:14.509 everyone's come through that, I can go over the 00:02:14.509 --> 00:02:16.849 scores. I can go over as much or as little detail 00:02:16.849 --> 00:02:23.349 as you like. Who wants to start? Alex, you want 00:02:23.349 --> 00:02:25.729 to start? Yeah, I'll start first. I know how 00:02:25.729 --> 00:02:28.110 excited Alex is about his. Oh, man, I've been 00:02:28.110 --> 00:02:30.310 working on this for so long. He was like, did 00:02:30.310 --> 00:02:33.789 he get it? I was like, yeah, I got it, Alex. 00:02:34.110 --> 00:02:36.830 So, first, I guess I'll start with the truck. 00:02:37.129 --> 00:02:39.099 And we'll do... I know we haven't been doing 00:02:39.099 --> 00:02:40.819 chapter art lately, but we'll do some chapter 00:02:40.819 --> 00:02:43.900 art on this one. It'll probably be later than 00:02:43.900 --> 00:02:46.360 a Tuesday release because of it, but we'll get 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:51.340 there. So for the truck, I did a... Oh, yeah, 00:02:51.379 --> 00:02:54.039 I forgot I added that stuff. I did a 94 F350 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:57.860 with a 5 .8 liter gasser. I mean, four -wheel 00:02:57.860 --> 00:03:00.680 drive, single cab, long bed, nothing special. 00:03:00.939 --> 00:03:04.620 I just wanted a truck, preferably with a solid 00:03:04.620 --> 00:03:07.770 axle. And the cheapest way to do that is an old 00:03:07.770 --> 00:03:13.629 OBS Ford. I also, because I had some money to 00:03:13.629 --> 00:03:16.569 play with, wherever I found, wherever my lights 00:03:16.569 --> 00:03:20.270 went, I picked up a 52 -inch light bar for the 00:03:20.270 --> 00:03:25.889 roof with some light brackets. Overall, I think 00:03:25.889 --> 00:03:31.650 that came out, the truck total is like $2 ,200. 00:03:34.620 --> 00:03:38.240 really really cheap setup uh just a quick way 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.900 that you can just go get a small truck and go 00:03:40.900 --> 00:03:42.939 wheeling uh if you go crew cab it's a little 00:03:42.939 --> 00:03:47.960 worse um for tools i did the the age -old classic 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:50.979 i went on marketplace and there was someone i 00:03:50.979 --> 00:03:52.500 don't remember how many tools were in here i 00:03:52.500 --> 00:03:55.680 know it's shit tough like a bucket full yeah 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:00.199 so a bucket with 50 to 100 wrenches and 200 to 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:05.199 400 sockets um 150 bucks for the setup. Who knows 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.319 if it's got everything I need. No 10 mils. Yeah, 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.740 no 10 mils. It's all Imperial. Luckily, it's 00:04:13.740 --> 00:04:16.319 an OBS Ford, so Imperial is all I really need. 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:19.879 And then I picked up a farm jack for 75 bucks. 00:04:20.139 --> 00:04:23.259 Nothing crazy, just something tall enough to 00:04:23.259 --> 00:04:30.339 lift that truck if need be. For tires, this is 00:04:30.339 --> 00:04:35.199 a steel man. 37 Goodyear MTRs on Ford 8 -lugs, 00:04:35.300 --> 00:04:37.959 so I didn't even need to swap the wheels for 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:43.699 $250. I think one of them had a leak, but I would 00:04:43.699 --> 00:04:45.519 just keep filling it up. It's not a big deal. 00:04:46.939 --> 00:04:52.660 Yeah, so $250. Like I said, if you're just looking 00:04:52.660 --> 00:04:54.740 for a trail beater, you don't got to spend a 00:04:54.740 --> 00:04:59.560 bunch of money. Next up, I grabbed some U -joints 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.339 from O 'Reilly's. There's... three or four of 00:05:02.339 --> 00:05:05.000 them on the obs ford so i grabbed three of them 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.759 just to make sure that i had enough uh and i 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.600 grabbed a set of uh lockouts off uh marketplace 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:16.000 because those are like the two most likely to 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.819 break parts on an obs ford they're a pretty rock 00:05:18.819 --> 00:05:24.360 solid truck to be honest um recovery gear luckily 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.180 it's a full -size truck so i just bought some 00:05:27.180 --> 00:05:29.560 10 brackets to move the bumper down a little 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.279 bit And that makes it so I can run the universal 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.279 Harbor Freight winch plate. And then I grabbed 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:38.120 an X -Bowl winch to throw on top of that. So, 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.759 I mean, that's a pretty good recovery gear setup. 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.199 And one of the beauties of an OBS Ford is being 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.139 able to do the cheaper stuff like that. For my 00:05:48.139 --> 00:05:53.620 GMRS radio, I did a Baofeng UV5R at like $17. 00:05:53.860 --> 00:05:57.240 And, yeah, they just work. They're nothing special. 00:05:58.029 --> 00:06:02.730 My nav, I did a Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 Lite. This 00:06:02.730 --> 00:06:04.790 is actually what I run in my 4Runner right now. 00:06:05.009 --> 00:06:07.449 And the only thing that makes these good is that 00:06:07.449 --> 00:06:11.370 you can get them for under $50 on eBay. They're 00:06:11.370 --> 00:06:12.910 really not a good tablet, but they're cheap. 00:06:14.410 --> 00:06:20.250 For my hunting apparatus, I got a Stevens 12 00:06:20.250 --> 00:06:23.810 -gauge shotgun on a local auction site for $52. 00:06:24.110 --> 00:06:26.790 I actually almost bought this. But I missed the 00:06:26.790 --> 00:06:29.449 auction. I was at $50, and someone else outbid 00:06:29.449 --> 00:06:34.350 me by $2. I was not happy, but it is what it 00:06:34.350 --> 00:06:37.329 is. Did I have anything else in that one? No, 00:06:37.430 --> 00:06:40.550 that was it. And then I found some gas cans for 00:06:40.550 --> 00:06:43.670 $15 on Marketplace, so that covered my five gallons 00:06:43.670 --> 00:06:47.490 of gas. I would talk about my extras, but Duncan 00:06:47.490 --> 00:06:50.810 didn't think it was cool. I'll talk about them 00:06:50.810 --> 00:06:54.129 anyway. So I got... I helped. I just didn't total 00:06:54.129 --> 00:06:57.939 them up. I got a 10 -foot flat -bottom boat to 00:06:57.939 --> 00:07:02.740 put on the roof of my rig. I haven't gotten to 00:07:02.740 --> 00:07:05.600 that part yet. Yeah, so I got a 10 -foot flat 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.680 -bottom boat, a couple of fishing poles, and 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:13.639 an outboard motor for that boat. I just had extra 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:18.639 money. For cooking, on that same auction site, 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.079 I was able to get a bin full of cast iron. It 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:23.699 looks like there's a chicken roaster. A couple 00:07:23.699 --> 00:07:27.639 of pans. I mean, they needed cleaned up, but 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.740 for $12, you really couldn't beat it. And then 00:07:31.740 --> 00:07:36.819 I also got a pull -behind barbecue pig roaster. 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.319 Because who wouldn't want to roast a pig on the 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:45.939 trail, man? Like, come on. That pig roaster, 00:07:45.980 --> 00:07:48.220 I think, was like $600. But, you know, it was 00:07:48.220 --> 00:07:52.980 worth it. $590, yeah. Yeah. So then, this is 00:07:52.980 --> 00:07:57.379 what made it all possible for me. I was looking 00:07:57.379 --> 00:07:59.680 for a slide -in camper, and I was expecting to 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:03.759 pay like $1 ,100. But some joker over in Monroe, 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.480 Michigan, decided to give away their slide -in 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.720 truck camper. It's like a decent truck camper. 00:08:09.779 --> 00:08:12.819 It's not even in bad shape. It's got a pop -up. 00:08:13.050 --> 00:08:14.870 roof that gives you a little bit extra height 00:08:14.870 --> 00:08:19.069 this covers my toilet my pretty much all my storage 00:08:19.069 --> 00:08:24.389 my trash my fridge my uh stovetop my bed i mean 00:08:24.389 --> 00:08:28.670 this this was like the steel for my setup i mean 00:08:28.670 --> 00:08:33.649 off -road wise uh they do okay they're not the 00:08:33.649 --> 00:08:36.190 greatest thing i've definitely seen some like 00:08:36.190 --> 00:08:39.009 out in moab and stuff that do better than you'd 00:08:39.009 --> 00:08:41.960 expect But that's just a lot of weight on top 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.120 of you, so you got to know. I heard rumors of 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:47.460 someone who actually took an Alu cab all the 00:08:47.460 --> 00:08:49.120 way down to Kentucky and should get up most of 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:53.279 the obstacles with it. Yeah, exactly. I also, 00:08:53.419 --> 00:08:57.720 having done that I did a sliding camper, I had 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:00.279 to obviously set the truck up for it. So I grabbed 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:07.419 some camper tie -downs. That was $460. Yeah, 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:09.639 that was such a good steal. And then I got a 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.919 blanket for $25 and a pillow for $10. And that 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.980 covers my setup. Now, Duncan, I didn't add this 00:09:16.980 --> 00:09:19.320 up. Did you add up how much it was total? Yeah. 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:24.700 What was my total? Well, like I said, I didn't 00:09:24.700 --> 00:09:27.120 count the boat and the fishing and stuff because 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:28.480 I figured that would kind of count against you. 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.639 But it was under $5. I think it was like $48 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.200 maybe. I don't even think it was that though. 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.830 Yeah, it might have been like $43 or $44. That's 00:09:36.830 --> 00:09:38.629 what I think it was. It was closer to 44. Yeah. 00:09:38.850 --> 00:09:42.289 It wasn't fresh. Because I remember when I added 00:09:42.289 --> 00:09:45.169 the boat last, and I was looking at it, and I'm 00:09:45.169 --> 00:09:48.269 like, man, I still got like $1 ,000. So then 00:09:48.269 --> 00:09:50.929 I added the boat. But mind you, one of the categories 00:09:50.929 --> 00:09:52.529 was cheapest, though, so I was trying to give 00:09:52.529 --> 00:09:55.889 you an edge there. I was like, man, if I count 00:09:55.889 --> 00:09:57.830 all this just nonsense up for it, I'm going to 00:09:57.830 --> 00:10:00.789 go over. Well, it wasn't going to go over. It's 00:10:00.789 --> 00:10:02.970 just you weren't getting those points. You wanted 00:10:02.970 --> 00:10:07.070 to go cheapest. That's true. That's true. So, 00:10:07.090 --> 00:10:10.289 yeah, that's my setup. It's an OBS Ford with 00:10:10.289 --> 00:10:13.789 a sliding camper and 37s. I don't want to give 00:10:13.789 --> 00:10:15.169 the game away, but there's definitely going to 00:10:15.169 --> 00:10:17.830 be a patent emerging here pretty quick. Be a 00:10:17.830 --> 00:10:20.090 what? There's going to be a patent emerging here 00:10:20.090 --> 00:10:24.149 pretty quick. I'm just going to guess it because 00:10:24.149 --> 00:10:26.990 I think it's going to be a Ford thing. I don't 00:10:26.990 --> 00:10:30.690 know why. But, I mean, getting onto that, I'll 00:10:30.690 --> 00:10:34.210 talk about mine then real quick. So, I have a... 00:10:34.990 --> 00:10:37.429 Oh, let's see if I could find the actual description 00:10:37.429 --> 00:10:43.909 of it here. A 94 Ford Explorer. Make sure you 00:10:43.909 --> 00:10:48.470 talk to her. Yeah, I got a 94 Ford Explorer for 00:10:48.470 --> 00:10:55.610 $2 ,000. 25. In the description, lowest they'll 00:10:55.610 --> 00:10:57.990 take is two, so I'm going with that. Why would 00:10:57.990 --> 00:11:00.529 someone, I hate when people put that. he put 00:11:00.529 --> 00:11:03.350 it there if he's and that's basically saying 00:11:03.350 --> 00:11:05.990 that he'll take two so that's what i'm listening 00:11:05.990 --> 00:11:11.750 the same way so so it's got four by four um he 00:11:11.750 --> 00:11:13.850 says he's got enough spare parts to keep it on 00:11:13.850 --> 00:11:19.049 the road for five years so so it's a fat war 00:11:19.049 --> 00:11:21.610 nail i don't know what that is Spare warning. 00:11:21.710 --> 00:11:23.830 I got enough spare parts to keep it on their 00:11:23.830 --> 00:11:25.529 own for five years, so I didn't get any spare 00:11:25.529 --> 00:11:30.309 parts. But it's all right. It's not the rustiest. 00:11:30.330 --> 00:11:34.690 It looks like it's got 35s and 15s on it. So 00:11:34.690 --> 00:11:37.990 I didn't really go too crazy on anything else, 00:11:38.009 --> 00:11:40.789 really. Looks like it's got a good bit of lift 00:11:40.789 --> 00:11:44.509 on it. It's got a light bar. So as far as the 00:11:44.509 --> 00:11:49.629 rig goes, that's pretty much that. I'll start 00:11:49.629 --> 00:11:52.210 from the top on mine that way. Bathroom for me. 00:11:54.750 --> 00:11:59.289 I kept it really simple. I got some buckets off 00:11:59.289 --> 00:12:04.409 a marketplace for a dollar. I got some pool noodles 00:12:04.409 --> 00:12:09.269 to go around the bucket room. And I got some 00:12:09.269 --> 00:12:13.990 ultra strong Presto toilet paper off Amazon for 00:12:13.990 --> 00:12:20.409 24 bucks. That's my... That's my bathroom. And 00:12:20.409 --> 00:12:26.690 then to cook, I have had my eye on this overlanding 00:12:26.690 --> 00:12:32.669 kitchen set for the longest time. But the overlanding 00:12:32.669 --> 00:12:35.389 kitchen set off of Facebook Marketplace for $180. 00:12:36.049 --> 00:12:41.110 It's got your slide -out place for like a stove. 00:12:41.210 --> 00:12:44.830 It's got a place for... Like your washing dishes, 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:48.309 stuff like that. So it's pretty cool. So I got 00:12:48.309 --> 00:12:56.269 that. I got $15 20 -pound propane tanks. There 00:12:56.269 --> 00:13:03.129 we go. I got an adapter, $12 adapter to run the 00:13:03.129 --> 00:13:08.090 propane tank to the stove. And in the description... 00:13:08.490 --> 00:13:10.850 They throw the stove in with the overlanding 00:13:10.850 --> 00:13:14.549 set, by the way. Oh, nice. Yeah, so it's in there. 00:13:16.029 --> 00:13:19.970 And then I got a $12 propane benzomatic torch 00:13:19.970 --> 00:13:23.610 for starting fires and just to kind of have. 00:13:24.169 --> 00:13:29.929 Yeah. $20 cook set, aluminum cook set from Coleman. 00:13:30.049 --> 00:13:33.330 Looks like it's from, like, the 70s. And then 00:13:33.330 --> 00:13:36.909 I got a Coleman camp oven to cook all my biscuits. 00:13:38.699 --> 00:13:43.080 Nice. Then I got, for $39 off Amazon, I got a 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:47.120 gravity water filter system because I wouldn't 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.700 be able to carry a ton of water out there. So 00:13:50.700 --> 00:13:52.600 I figured having some kind of filtered water 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:58.019 would be good. And then a $39 kind of all -purpose 00:13:58.019 --> 00:14:02.200 cook utensil set with knives and stuff like that 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:07.649 off Amazon. Moving on to Hunt. I got my old faithful. 00:14:07.750 --> 00:14:09.590 I actually have one of these at home, which is 00:14:09.590 --> 00:14:14.789 why I bought them. I have, yeah, a 22. It's a 00:14:14.789 --> 00:14:20.389 Heritage Rough Rider for $89 .99. And I can hit 00:14:20.389 --> 00:14:23.429 good stuff with this. I'm confident I can get 00:14:23.429 --> 00:14:25.350 a squirrel. I'm confident I can kill something 00:14:25.350 --> 00:14:29.230 with it. So I got that on sale for $89 .99. That's 00:14:29.230 --> 00:14:32.990 a damn good deal. Yeah. And a bucket of bullets 00:14:32.990 --> 00:14:37.179 so that I can actually use my gun. Yeah. Uh -huh. 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:44.659 Right. But don't worry. Moving to nav, I have 00:14:44.659 --> 00:14:51.059 a $27 .99 billed yearly OnyxX membership and 00:14:51.059 --> 00:14:54.500 a $27 road atlas of the U .S. just in case I 00:14:54.500 --> 00:14:57.519 don't have service. Or I forget to put a phone 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:01.799 on there, which I did. So I might be using the 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.379 road atlas. Moving on to radio, I have pretty 00:15:05.379 --> 00:15:08.220 much the same thing, but I have two Baofeng, 00:15:08.340 --> 00:15:15.039 what is it, UB5G, the same thing Alex had, the 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:19.200 Baofeng radios. So I got those for radio. Nothing 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.059 really, I mean, I don't know, we don't really 00:15:22.059 --> 00:15:24.259 need to contact each other from more than a mile 00:15:24.259 --> 00:15:28.019 away if we're doing this. Recovery I kind of 00:15:28.019 --> 00:15:31.379 spend a little bit more money on. I kind of tried 00:15:31.379 --> 00:15:33.159 to find an all -around kit so I wouldn't have 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:36.620 to play games. Now that I'm thinking about it, 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:42.620 I did forget something. I have, for $299, an 00:15:42.620 --> 00:15:47.379 all -top recovery kit. It's got the recovery 00:15:47.379 --> 00:15:50.139 straps, dampers, soft shackles, hitch, mount, 00:15:50.419 --> 00:15:54.340 recovery rings, deflator, all that good stuff. 00:15:54.700 --> 00:15:59.000 And then... Yeah, nice. And then I have, for 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:02.580 $198, I have traction boards and an off -road 00:16:02.580 --> 00:16:04.679 jack. I like how those traction boards actually 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:08.159 have a slot in the center for the off -road jack. 00:16:08.299 --> 00:16:12.779 Yeah. Yeah, and the off -road jack, so I didn't 00:16:12.779 --> 00:16:15.379 really think about winch mounts. I looked at 00:16:15.379 --> 00:16:18.720 it. I couldn't find anything purpose for my truck, 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.019 and I didn't know at the time that you could 00:16:21.019 --> 00:16:23.580 get parts like what Alex pointed at or the OVS. 00:16:24.059 --> 00:16:27.149 So I ended up just... Well, I've seen people 00:16:27.149 --> 00:16:30.269 use an off -road jack to winch their truck out 00:16:30.269 --> 00:16:33.129 before. It's hard, but it works. So that was 00:16:33.129 --> 00:16:35.970 my, like, if I really get to it, I'll just have 00:16:35.970 --> 00:16:39.769 to use that. For sleeping setup, I'm actually 00:16:39.769 --> 00:16:43.149 sleeping in my truck. So I have the Overland 00:16:43.149 --> 00:16:46.190 drawer on the right side. The sleeping setup's 00:16:46.190 --> 00:16:48.350 going to be on the left side. I got a Tall Man 00:16:48.350 --> 00:16:51.649 sleeping bag off the Marketplace for $25. That's 00:16:51.649 --> 00:16:53.529 a good deal. I made sure that it actually would 00:16:53.529 --> 00:16:58.279 fit me. just in case i didn't really need anything 00:16:58.279 --> 00:16:59.659 else other than that because i'm going to use 00:16:59.659 --> 00:17:03.159 my clothes as my pillow so spare parts i literally 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:06.740 just put the description of of the truck because 00:17:06.740 --> 00:17:09.980 he apparently has enough to keep it going and 00:17:09.980 --> 00:17:12.200 then i spent a lot of money on this so for my 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.759 god so yeah i mean if you would take these off 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.180 and i just use the spare tires i kind of did 00:17:17.180 --> 00:17:19.140 the same thing as alex was like well i got extra 00:17:19.140 --> 00:17:24.119 money to spend so i bought five brand new 35 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:29.849 12 50 by 15 kind of clever rts they're 304 dollars 00:17:29.849 --> 00:17:35.849 a piece so the total is 15 21 15. so that's 1500 00:17:35.849 --> 00:17:38.750 just in tires you don't have to do that i had 00:17:38.750 --> 00:17:42.230 the little bit of extra money so i did i wanted 00:17:42.230 --> 00:17:45.789 that extra traction with that and then for my 00:17:45.789 --> 00:17:50.049 tool set i got a 225 piece uh mechanic channel 00:17:50.049 --> 00:17:52.349 lock mechanic tool set it's kind of an all -arounder 00:17:52.670 --> 00:17:55.029 on Facebook Marketplace for $85. That's a pretty 00:17:55.029 --> 00:17:58.250 banging deal. Yeah. So I figured that would cover 00:17:58.250 --> 00:18:01.029 most of anything that I needed. And then trash? 00:18:01.529 --> 00:18:07.009 I got a $6 trash bags off of Facebook Marketplace 00:18:07.009 --> 00:18:12.369 that were already open. They used one. So, yeah, 00:18:12.549 --> 00:18:14.710 I mean, that's pretty much my build there. The 00:18:14.710 --> 00:18:16.869 one thing I probably did forget was navigation. 00:18:17.710 --> 00:18:20.859 And then... uh you know like a tablet or a phone 00:18:20.859 --> 00:18:23.000 to use and just i honestly just was using my 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.259 phone so i was like i'll just use my phone but 00:18:25.259 --> 00:18:27.880 you're going into this blind so i didn't really 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:29.599 uh think about that and then the other thing 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:31.819 i forgot was a way to air up my tires if i needed 00:18:31.819 --> 00:18:35.220 to but i'm gonna put that as gas station yeah 00:18:35.220 --> 00:18:37.299 we're filling up at gas stations there's some 00:18:37.299 --> 00:18:39.480 gas stations but all right all right so that 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:41.779 yeah that's my build i'm pretty confident in 00:18:41.779 --> 00:18:47.569 it i think it's i think it's got potential I 00:18:47.569 --> 00:18:50.809 have no idea what Mark did. I don't think you're 00:18:50.809 --> 00:18:52.750 going to be surprised. I think it's going to 00:18:52.750 --> 00:18:58.809 be a Ford. Yeah, it's a Ford. It's a 97 F -150. 00:19:00.069 --> 00:19:04.390 So I just realized I did not send the full description 00:19:04.390 --> 00:19:07.269 in my screenshot, so I had to resend it in the 00:19:07.269 --> 00:19:10.809 group chat to you guys. So if I bought my own 00:19:10.809 --> 00:19:12.950 rims and tire, which is what I did, it comes 00:19:12.950 --> 00:19:19.900 down to $1 ,000 for the truck. And then $1 ,000 00:19:19.900 --> 00:19:22.240 for the truck. It's got my own tires. It's a 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.880 97 F -150 for listeners. Yep. Yep. Yes, we got 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:29.400 two Ford pickup trucks and a Ford SUV. All from 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:31.440 the 90s. All within like three or four years. 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:37.779 I had to buy a wheel. Yeah. I had to buy wheel 00:19:37.779 --> 00:19:42.799 adapters because I actually went with 5 .5 bolt 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.099 pattern tires because that was the only ones 00:19:46.099 --> 00:19:49.309 I could find. 35 -inch tires for sale in rims, 00:19:49.309 --> 00:19:57.170 which that was $500 for rims tires. Yes. Yeah. 00:19:58.150 --> 00:20:03.390 So that's the truck. I forgot about aux lights, 00:20:03.470 --> 00:20:06.309 so I did not have any of those. I probably have 00:20:06.309 --> 00:20:12.500 money left over for them, though. My... The sleeping 00:20:12.500 --> 00:20:15.880 bedroom slash kitchen slash restroom, since it 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:19.839 didn't make sense to break it open folders, is 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:25.519 a slide -in camper as well. Originally, I was 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.680 looking for a motorcycle pop -up camper thing 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:30.400 that me and Alex have talked about previously 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:32.400 putting in my truck, so I was looking for one 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.619 of those, but nothing came about it, and this 00:20:35.619 --> 00:20:40.920 popped up in my feed for it being trailered. 00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:43.240 But you can take it off and put it in a jar. 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:51.240 That F -150 would be crying. Yeah. But, I mean, 00:20:51.339 --> 00:20:54.299 that really set him up. Yeah, that's everything. 00:20:56.099 --> 00:20:57.920 Yeah, and then I also found... That's probably 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:03.900 a better... Man, the audio is really bad for 00:21:03.900 --> 00:21:06.380 me trying to hear you. Kitchen utensils I found 00:21:06.380 --> 00:21:13.630 for $20. Potspans for $35. Camping dish set for 00:21:13.630 --> 00:21:26.990 $30. And was there anything else? Yeah, no. Spare 00:21:26.990 --> 00:21:29.609 parts, I just did CV axles. That was the first 00:21:29.609 --> 00:21:31.589 thing I found. And, of course, when I was doing 00:21:31.589 --> 00:21:33.190 this, it was all in one night, so it was kind 00:21:33.190 --> 00:21:34.829 of burned out by the end of the night when it 00:21:34.829 --> 00:21:40.740 came to spare parts. Tools, I bought a Bauer 00:21:40.740 --> 00:21:43.859 Impact brushless lift charger and battery. Yeah, 00:21:43.859 --> 00:21:48.440 makes sense. It's a good setup. And then I also 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:57.599 got Pittsburgh kit with basic tools. For any 00:21:57.599 --> 00:21:59.299 listeners paying attention, we're having some 00:21:59.299 --> 00:22:00.940 connectivity issues, even though we're in the 00:22:00.940 --> 00:22:03.839 same house. So if we sound broken up, that's 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:08.059 why. You won't know that because we record independently. 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:14.460 Yeah. That's a good deal, Mark. I bought a basic 00:22:14.460 --> 00:22:18.180 trash can for like $14. I think it's actually 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:24.039 $13 .29. Did not get bags. That was my fault. 00:22:24.220 --> 00:22:27.539 And then recovery, I bought a winch plate dedicated 00:22:27.539 --> 00:22:32.640 for the F -150 for that year. And then I bought... 00:22:34.569 --> 00:22:39.390 Winch off a Facebook market for $2 .50. It's 00:22:39.390 --> 00:22:42.890 a 13 -pound winch. Or 13 ,000 -pound winch, I'd 00:22:42.890 --> 00:22:47.750 say. Then they got a Chinese knock -off of a 00:22:47.750 --> 00:22:52.509 beaver. It's called Velor. Velor. Yeah, the listing 00:22:52.509 --> 00:22:57.849 says Velor, and it's actually beaver. Then I 00:22:57.849 --> 00:23:01.230 got a Beofang HP. The Beofang's definitely held 00:23:01.230 --> 00:23:07.119 strong. Yeah. That was $62 .89, but I just considered 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:13.839 $63. And then Nav, I went with a Samsung tablet. 00:23:15.059 --> 00:23:18.339 I think it's the same one I bought last time, 00:23:18.339 --> 00:23:21.400 my little 8 -inch one. It can at least run Onyx, 00:23:21.500 --> 00:23:25.579 so that's all that mattered. And then I bought 00:23:25.579 --> 00:23:29.880 a mount for it, which that one's like $27 for 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:31.660 the mount. It just mounts to somewhere on the 00:23:31.660 --> 00:23:37.250 dash. And then for hunt, I just got a bow and 00:23:37.250 --> 00:23:43.309 arrows. A little compound bow. It's a pretty 00:23:43.309 --> 00:23:48.029 decent deal on that old bear. Yeah. How about 00:23:48.029 --> 00:23:50.490 it all? That was old faithful, man. You ain't 00:23:50.490 --> 00:23:54.450 got to worry about ammo. Comes with it. Yeah. 00:23:54.690 --> 00:23:57.150 Like I said, I think I'm missing a couple items, 00:23:57.250 --> 00:23:58.910 but like I said, I was doing this one night. 00:23:58.970 --> 00:24:00.509 I got burned out at the end of it. I'm like, 00:24:00.650 --> 00:24:03.089 all right, I might have a couple items missing. 00:24:05.139 --> 00:24:09.299 Yeah, no, that's pretty solid. You get it. I 00:24:09.299 --> 00:24:12.619 think my last calculation was like 4 ,700 -something. 00:24:14.339 --> 00:24:22.140 All right. Now that we have all the builds on 00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:24.119 here, I think we should turn it over to Duncan 00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:28.359 so that he can grade us and tell us what he thinks. 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.539 Yeah. Yeah, so obviously I kind of broke this 00:24:32.539 --> 00:24:35.289 up into two different sections. You know, I'd 00:24:35.289 --> 00:24:38.549 share the spreadsheet if I could, but obviously, 00:24:38.730 --> 00:24:41.089 you know, I'm very anal and very particular. 00:24:41.230 --> 00:24:43.509 So it's all laid out all beautifully and everything's 00:24:43.509 --> 00:24:47.349 all formatted and pretty with Excel. So, you 00:24:47.349 --> 00:24:48.950 know, you know how it is. I'm not going to create 00:24:48.950 --> 00:24:50.930 it on this myself, but I think I'd give myself 00:24:50.930 --> 00:24:55.490 an A. So, yeah, general scoring. So the first 00:24:55.490 --> 00:24:58.349 one was kind of out at 21 points. So it's basically 00:24:58.349 --> 00:24:59.849 just making sure that everyone hits all the big 00:24:59.849 --> 00:25:06.720 things. 34 -inch tires have to have a way to 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.880 cook, a way to hunt. The tires have to realistically 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.640 clear the body. You have to have a bathroom setup 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.960 that allows pack -in, pack -out, place for trash, 00:25:15.180 --> 00:25:18.180 a way to carry water, a way to store food, five 00:25:18.180 --> 00:25:21.920 gallons of gas in reserve, a GMRS radio, navigation, 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:25.660 tool set, spares for common issues of your vehicle, 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:28.039 a way to start a fire, somewhere to sleep with 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.200 bedding. The vehicle has to be able to travel 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.859 at least 45, has to be a 4x4. everything has 00:25:33.859 --> 00:25:36.200 to realistically fit in the vehicle. So you have 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:38.500 to be able to store it all. It has to be registrable. 00:25:38.619 --> 00:25:40.420 The whole thing has to be under five grand. You 00:25:40.420 --> 00:25:43.920 have to have recovery gear. And as I alluded 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.660 to, everyone hit all those. So it was full marks 00:25:46.660 --> 00:25:49.099 for everyone on that part. So everyone kind of 00:25:49.099 --> 00:25:51.039 went into the second part, which I considered 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:53.839 like the award quote unquote score with full 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:58.099 points. So the first of the awards, I guess, 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.619 was the heaviest vehicle. So the way I did this 00:26:01.619 --> 00:26:04.769 was. I did it by the heaviest vehicle that I 00:26:04.769 --> 00:26:07.569 think we would go off -roading with. And I saw 00:26:07.569 --> 00:26:09.349 that as a positive because obviously if you have 00:26:09.349 --> 00:26:11.650 some super light thing, there's a risk of a rollover. 00:26:12.049 --> 00:26:13.509 Obviously, you don't want something that weighs, 00:26:13.569 --> 00:26:15.690 you know, a million pounds and they can't get 00:26:15.690 --> 00:26:19.029 up a hill. But so the heaviest vehicle that we 00:26:19.029 --> 00:26:22.490 would go off -roading with was Alex's. So it 00:26:22.490 --> 00:26:24.670 was only by like a couple hundred pounds or so. 00:26:24.769 --> 00:26:28.309 So Alex got the one point for that one. The lightest 00:26:28.309 --> 00:26:33.529 vehicle was Gavin's SUV. So Gavin got a point 00:26:33.529 --> 00:26:38.950 for that. Most storage, I said that was Mark. 00:26:39.089 --> 00:26:41.890 He had the biggest camper, lots of room just 00:26:41.890 --> 00:26:43.730 on the floor and on the bedding and everything 00:26:43.730 --> 00:26:46.569 to store stuff. So Mark got the two points for 00:26:46.569 --> 00:26:49.809 that. Unfortunately, Gavin just putting everything 00:26:49.809 --> 00:26:51.690 in the back of the SUV. He had the least storage, 00:26:51.829 --> 00:26:56.210 so he lost a point for that. Biggest tires was 00:26:56.210 --> 00:26:58.609 the next one. That was two points, and Alex won 00:26:58.609 --> 00:27:03.880 that. Alex had 37 -inch tires. So, and I was, 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:05.839 I read that and I was like, man, he's going to 00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:08.660 have a heck of a time. But Alex does also have 00:27:08.660 --> 00:27:12.339 dual solid axles. So I don't think he really 00:27:12.339 --> 00:27:15.140 ran into an issue. And I did a lot of research 00:27:15.140 --> 00:27:16.680 into this. I'll have you know, I was like, can 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.660 you fit 37s? And everyone was saying, yeah, if 00:27:19.660 --> 00:27:21.019 you just hack and trim enough, you'll get them 00:27:21.019 --> 00:27:22.839 in that. So I was like, yep, good enough for 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.640 me. Yeah, he's not. I've seen, yeah. So Dirt 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.900 Every Day, a while ago, they did a Crew Cab F350. 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:34.500 And they cut it until I think they fit 54s under 00:27:34.500 --> 00:27:38.799 it on stock height. Jeez. And that was my thinking. 00:27:38.859 --> 00:27:40.460 I was like, you know, he can make him fit well 00:27:40.460 --> 00:27:41.880 enough if you just give him enough love with 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.440 an anvil grinder and a sledgehammer. So, yeah, 00:27:44.539 --> 00:27:47.759 Alex won that one with the biggest tires. And 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.519 then, unfortunately, we had to draw off the smallest 00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.400 tires because both Mark and Gavin are running 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.740 35s. So that was minus two for each of them. 00:27:55.309 --> 00:27:58.390 Most horsepower that I found was Mark's. I think 00:27:58.390 --> 00:28:02.609 Mark's had 500 or 500, geez. I think it was 220. 00:28:03.329 --> 00:28:06.329 And then I think Alex had like 210 and Gavin 00:28:06.329 --> 00:28:10.569 had like, I want to say like 180, I think. It's 00:28:10.569 --> 00:28:16.089 just the V8 Triton motor. And then most rust, 00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:21.220 unfortunately, that was Alex's. Nothing structural 00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:23.240 that I could see from the pictures, but just 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.299 the really typical, like the fenders that chewed 00:28:25.299 --> 00:28:27.019 out a little bit, the beds a little chewed out. 00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:29.859 I was going to cut it all off anyway. I know, 00:28:29.940 --> 00:28:31.640 I know. It's nothing that would make a difference. 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.339 But the least rust was Gavin's. That's actually, 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.720 you know, I think if you got really up close, 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:39.839 I think you can see some of the panels are hammered 00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:43.119 in and remainted, but it was clean. So Gavin 00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:46.039 got the two points there. And I also gave... 00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.259 Gavin the most turnkey ready, you know, given 00:28:48.259 --> 00:28:50.319 that he's just sleeping in the back of it. Like 00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:51.779 he doesn't really need to do anything. He basically 00:28:51.779 --> 00:28:53.660 just needs to load it up with everything. So 00:28:53.660 --> 00:28:57.920 he won that. And then the last of kind of these 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.539 small scoring ones was the most capable cooking 00:29:00.539 --> 00:29:03.779 setup. And I thought about this a lot and I gave 00:29:03.779 --> 00:29:07.420 it to Mark because he had the full pan setup. 00:29:07.539 --> 00:29:10.200 He actually had utensils, which Gavin did too. 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.779 And obviously he's got like a full cooking setup 00:29:13.779 --> 00:29:15.640 in the camper as well with plenty of storage 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:20.539 and things. I had a pig roaster. You did actually. 00:29:20.859 --> 00:29:25.339 And that'll play to your hand later on. So now 00:29:25.339 --> 00:29:26.880 we'll kind of get into the big scoring ones. 00:29:26.940 --> 00:29:30.859 So these are each worth five points. So fastest 00:29:30.859 --> 00:29:34.779 setup time I gave to Alex. I figured he could 00:29:34.779 --> 00:29:38.599 just pull in. pocket, and then if the camper 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.500 needs outriggers, he can put those down, but 00:29:40.500 --> 00:29:42.759 he's pretty much done if he just loads everything 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.359 off. I think Gavin would be a very close second 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:46.759 because it would really just be a case of pulling 00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:50.240 things out of the SUV. And then, yeah, I think 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.980 Mark would be around the same time. If they did 00:29:52.980 --> 00:29:58.119 add on mine, I actually put a roof rack off of 00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.920 Amazon, which I don't think I actually mentioned, 00:30:00.059 --> 00:30:02.480 but that's where a lot of my crap is going to. 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:06.329 I even have a pack of straps on there. That it's 00:30:06.329 --> 00:30:08.329 just, it was though. And it's kind of hard when 00:30:08.329 --> 00:30:10.029 you look at like the spare parts that they put 00:30:10.029 --> 00:30:12.069 in the bio. Yeah. It's like, I don't know what 00:30:12.069 --> 00:30:14.589 they do and don't have. So I'm just assuming 00:30:14.589 --> 00:30:16.609 it's not a whole lot. And I think it's solid 00:30:16.609 --> 00:30:19.490 axle on front and back, isn't it? It is. So it 00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:22.190 is. It's so I wasn't worried about a CV axle. 00:30:22.450 --> 00:30:25.549 And so I'm hoping that everything can go up top 00:30:25.549 --> 00:30:28.390 for the most part. There's no guarantee there. 00:30:28.509 --> 00:30:31.289 So that's completely fair. Yep. We can put them 00:30:31.289 --> 00:30:34.190 in my boat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And because of 00:30:34.190 --> 00:30:36.890 the boat. the pig roaster and the fishing poles. 00:30:37.210 --> 00:30:40.509 Um, I gave Alex the five points, the most unique 00:30:40.509 --> 00:30:43.950 build. He just had some wild stuff on there and 00:30:43.950 --> 00:30:45.690 just, you know, started blowing out the budget. 00:30:45.730 --> 00:30:48.269 So I thought that was that camper, that camper 00:30:48.269 --> 00:30:50.829 saved my ass, man. That was a good zero dollars 00:30:50.829 --> 00:30:52.289 for that thing. That's a pretty good shape. It 00:30:52.289 --> 00:30:54.630 just needs, it looks like all just, uh, yeah, 00:30:54.710 --> 00:30:57.769 just TLC, just visual appearances and stuff. 00:30:57.789 --> 00:31:01.230 So it was, so yeah, Alex got five for the fastest 00:31:01.230 --> 00:31:03.950 setup, five for the most unique. The cheapest 00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:06.970 one was actually Gavin's one. I think Gavin, 00:31:07.069 --> 00:31:12.269 with the whole setup, came in like a touch over 00:31:12.269 --> 00:31:16.609 $4 ,000. So Gavin really kept the price down 00:31:16.609 --> 00:31:19.789 really well for that. And then we get the most 00:31:19.789 --> 00:31:23.349 prepared for mechanical failures. So I gave Mark 00:31:23.349 --> 00:31:26.349 that one. So he had the full toolkit. He did 00:31:26.349 --> 00:31:28.230 actually have a Bauer impact in there as well. 00:31:28.569 --> 00:31:30.849 I saw that. Which I think was really good thinking, 00:31:30.910 --> 00:31:32.789 so definitely saved some people's wrist pain 00:31:32.789 --> 00:31:37.750 and some forearm pain. Yeah. He was the most 00:31:37.750 --> 00:31:40.250 prepared for mechanical. I think most prepared 00:31:40.250 --> 00:31:43.309 overall, I gave that one to Mach too. I think 00:31:43.309 --> 00:31:46.089 really good tool setup. I think the campo was 00:31:46.089 --> 00:31:47.990 a really good idea too, so he had plenty of room 00:31:47.990 --> 00:31:51.410 for that. Good cooking setup. I also liked the 00:31:51.410 --> 00:31:53.690 idea of having a bow as well, so you're not having 00:31:53.690 --> 00:31:55.809 to rely on ammunition necessarily. I know arrows 00:31:55.809 --> 00:31:58.539 break. but maybe there's a way you could fudge 00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:02.579 some more. So Mark got the five points for most 00:32:02.579 --> 00:32:05.299 prepared overall. And then most prepared for 00:32:05.299 --> 00:32:09.119 recoveries. I hemmed and hawed about this one 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:12.019 for ages. I looked at everyone's rig and I was 00:32:12.019 --> 00:32:13.900 like, man, like which one's the best? And the 00:32:13.900 --> 00:32:16.960 fact that both Mark and Alex had winches is really 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.319 good. But then Gavin's idea of actually just 00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.440 getting a kit just with all the extra soft shackles 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.339 and straps and everything was also a really good 00:32:24.339 --> 00:32:27.990 idea. But I was just so torn between, you know, 00:32:27.990 --> 00:32:31.809 Alex having both the winch and the high lift 00:32:31.809 --> 00:32:34.309 jack or the trail jack, and then Gavin having 00:32:34.309 --> 00:32:38.369 the full setup that it was a tie for me. So both 00:32:38.369 --> 00:32:41.109 Alex and Gavin got the five points for the most 00:32:41.109 --> 00:32:44.670 prepared for off -road recoveries. And then the 00:32:44.670 --> 00:32:47.430 last one, which I thought quite a bit about, 00:32:47.470 --> 00:32:50.960 was most off -road capable. Yeah. Yeah, that 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.319 has to be Gavin. So the only thing that I was 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:55.940 hesitant about with Gavin's was that I didn't 00:32:55.940 --> 00:32:58.460 know it was a solid axle until I dug some more 00:32:58.460 --> 00:33:01.160 into it. So with the fact that it's a solid axle, 00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.619 the fact that it's not, you know, like a three 00:33:03.619 --> 00:33:07.420 -quarter ton truck. So I think it was something 00:33:07.420 --> 00:33:09.559 like three feet shorter than the other two trucks 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.579 and like a foot narrower. Also had a significantly 00:33:12.579 --> 00:33:15.750 smaller turn radius. I think Gavin can... turn 00:33:15.750 --> 00:33:17.750 in about 38 feet. And I think with those three 00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:21.109 quarter tons, it was about like 45 feet, 46 feet. 00:33:21.769 --> 00:33:23.990 So I thought, I think he'd be the most maneuverable 00:33:23.990 --> 00:33:26.630 on the trail. So Gavin got the five points for 00:33:26.630 --> 00:33:29.390 that. And if you add them all up, there's actually 00:33:29.390 --> 00:33:32.869 only a point between everyone. Oh my gosh. It 00:33:32.869 --> 00:33:35.190 was really close. I didn't plan for that. I kind 00:33:35.190 --> 00:33:36.450 of just went through it and I was like, I have 00:33:36.450 --> 00:33:40.609 to be really strategic about this. So with 34 00:33:40.609 --> 00:33:45.250 points. So in third place was Mark. So Mark got 00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:48.329 the two awards for most prepared for mechanical 00:33:48.329 --> 00:33:52.450 and most prepared overall. And with 35 points 00:33:52.450 --> 00:33:58.589 was Alex. So Alex got fastest setup, most unique 00:33:58.589 --> 00:34:02.210 by far, and then tied for most prepared for recoveries. 00:34:02.710 --> 00:34:06.730 And then with 36 points, it was Gavin. So he 00:34:06.730 --> 00:34:09.489 got the cheapest rig, the most prepared for recoveries 00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:11.369 tied with Alex, and the most off -road capable. 00:34:14.179 --> 00:34:16.800 How far away from your house is that rig, Gavin? 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:23.019 It's about 250 miles. Yeah, it's close. It's 00:34:23.019 --> 00:34:25.880 really close. Yeah, we looked at it, the give 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.519 or take, and that's why I asked about it last. 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:30.900 I should have stuck with you. You couldn't do 00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:33.420 it. It's all the way down in Muncie, Indiana. 00:34:33.699 --> 00:34:38.480 Yeah. I looked at it. You know what? If you want 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.760 to get tentacle, you could probably argue about 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:42.300 my rims and tires because I'd have to take the 00:34:42.300 --> 00:34:44.360 ferry over to get those if I want to keep underneath 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:48.559 the mileage. That's fair enough. I didn't look. 00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:53.139 I didn't look. No. Well, you know, I'm glad that 00:34:53.139 --> 00:34:55.320 we all picked something different because the 00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:57.880 obvious one would probably be a Cherokee or an 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.579 XJ. Dude, they were so easy to find. The problem 00:35:01.579 --> 00:35:04.480 is, so I was looking for a Cherokee. For one 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.900 that wasn't rotted the fuck out, it was like 00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:09.519 $4 ,000. And I'm like, man, by the time I do 00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.179 that, I've got nothing left. So I was like, what 00:35:12.179 --> 00:35:14.400 do I even fucking do here? At the end of the 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:18.900 day, if you want a decent vehicle for $105 ,000 00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:20.840 and to be able to get this whole setup and stuff 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.539 with it, Toyota really isn't in your price range. 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.320 No. I hate to say it, but you're - At least a 00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.460 good Toyota. Right. You're stuck with things 00:35:29.460 --> 00:35:33.130 like 90s Fords and - xjs that already beat the 00:35:33.130 --> 00:35:36.269 shit yeah the upside is that xjs will typically 00:35:36.269 --> 00:35:39.829 have a lift maybe 35 to light bar maybe a winch 00:35:39.829 --> 00:35:43.309 i did find one for like 15 or 2000 that already 00:35:43.309 --> 00:35:46.070 had all that but that's such an obvious answer 00:35:46.070 --> 00:35:48.429 and i didn't want to i didn't want to dilute 00:35:48.429 --> 00:35:50.809 it just in case someone else did xj too because 00:35:50.809 --> 00:35:54.809 i don't even i think the uh because i used an 00:35:54.809 --> 00:35:59.230 xj for the um the example rig yeah that i seem 00:35:59.230 --> 00:36:03.659 to not be able to find on i mean our group chat 00:36:03.659 --> 00:36:06.079 the main group chat yeah yeah but i also should 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.940 be able to just find it on my uh there it is 00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:13.380 oh yeah so i did an xj for the example rig which 00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:15.579 i don't even know how the example rig fit because 00:36:15.579 --> 00:36:18.960 i literally just grabbed stuff yeah um and that 00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:20.960 one's like two thousand dollars and it didn't 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.860 look too bad but right i was more worried about 00:36:23.860 --> 00:36:26.980 fitting everything in an xj yeah Well, that was 00:36:26.980 --> 00:36:29.840 actually the biggest reason me getting a roof 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.139 rack for the SUV, because I knew space was going 00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:34.760 to be my downfall. But at the end of the day, 00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.880 if it's just me, I'm like, I can split it up 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:39.920 and sleep in the back and keep everything on 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.000 the top. But that was the only thing I could 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:47.820 find that was solid axle that wasn't a G, really, 00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:51.769 to be honest. I think the issue I had when it 00:36:51.769 --> 00:36:54.590 came to looking for vehicles was one either had 00:36:54.590 --> 00:36:57.969 some form of mechanical issue for cheap. So it 00:36:57.969 --> 00:37:00.949 was like kind of hard when you're listing it 00:37:00.949 --> 00:37:03.150 and then it's like has nothing running for me. 00:37:03.769 --> 00:37:07.949 And then one, they don't tell you if it's a four 00:37:07.949 --> 00:37:09.929 wheel drive or not. Right. You literally have 00:37:09.929 --> 00:37:15.110 to go off your stickers. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And 00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:16.869 I think ironically, the more everyone tried to 00:37:16.869 --> 00:37:19.590 be different. Kind of stranded was the same thing. 00:37:19.690 --> 00:37:22.670 Yeah. Which was? Yeah, there were two 1994 Fords 00:37:22.670 --> 00:37:26.489 and a 1997. Yeah. So two pickup trucks, one SUV. 00:37:26.670 --> 00:37:30.550 Which, to be fair, like, so early 90s Fords, 00:37:30.590 --> 00:37:34.550 they're just pretty solid in general. Yeah. Even 00:37:34.550 --> 00:37:36.469 the rest of them are pretty solid. I didn't even 00:37:36.469 --> 00:37:39.349 look, Gavin. What engine is in that thing? Triton? 00:37:39.650 --> 00:37:41.849 Is that what you said, Duncan? Yeah, I think 00:37:41.849 --> 00:37:50.480 it was the Triton V8 engine. Mine's a V10. Let 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:57.739 me see. You had the 97. I've looked at so many 00:37:57.739 --> 00:38:01.840 of those. Yeah, it had a 4 .6 liter V8 in the 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.739 97s. So I think the Triton was like a 4 .2 or 00:38:05.739 --> 00:38:09.719 4 .4. You know what? That one only had a 4 .6 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:19.000 in it. The 94 Explorer. oh gosh let me see here 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.139 where i was looking uh four liter four liter 00:38:22.139 --> 00:38:27.639 v6 oh actually so so if he has the marks marks 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:31.300 has the four six in it then yes yep four six 00:38:31.300 --> 00:38:34.960 liter v8 the four six truck engine only makes 00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:40.260 190 horsepower oh i used all the same uh listings 00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:42.099 for it so i went off kelly blue book for everything 00:38:42.539 --> 00:38:44.920 Oh, yeah. That's all the different ones. Because 00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:46.820 it depended on where you look, too. Like, some 00:38:46.820 --> 00:38:48.579 places wanted to have it as more, some wanted 00:38:48.579 --> 00:38:51.380 to have it as less. So I went all off the same 00:38:51.380 --> 00:38:56.300 one. Round of applause for Duncan on how organized, 00:38:56.619 --> 00:38:59.420 though. Yeah. I can't lie. I didn't want to make 00:38:59.420 --> 00:39:02.579 any enemies here. So you wouldn't. You wouldn't. 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.639 This is such a who -gives -a -fuck competition. 00:39:05.820 --> 00:39:08.599 We didn't care. No. And it's really cool, and 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.130 it does kind of... show the average listener 00:39:11.130 --> 00:39:14.570 that it is it is doable um and it's not like 00:39:14.570 --> 00:39:16.730 you have to have all of this right up front either 00:39:16.730 --> 00:39:19.610 you don't need five grand right up front get 00:39:19.610 --> 00:39:21.710 enough money for a truck and then start from 00:39:21.710 --> 00:39:27.489 there yeah i think i don't well so in high school 00:39:27.489 --> 00:39:30.929 i had an 88 chevy pickup two -wheel drive that 00:39:30.929 --> 00:39:34.050 i paid like 500 bucks for and that's what i wheeled 00:39:34.050 --> 00:39:37.710 for a good year and a half and i mean it was 00:39:37.710 --> 00:39:40.949 two -wheel drive but And it was a V6 manual, 00:39:41.090 --> 00:39:44.530 too. Oh, I loved that little truck. But in Michigan, 00:39:44.590 --> 00:39:46.130 you really don't need the four -wheel drive. 00:39:46.710 --> 00:39:50.090 I did. Me and my buddies went out at, like, 2 00:39:50.090 --> 00:39:53.650 a .m. after my graduation party and got it stuck 00:39:53.650 --> 00:39:55.949 in the prairie and had to walk back. It took 00:39:55.949 --> 00:39:58.769 us five hours to walk back to somewhere we had 00:39:58.769 --> 00:40:02.550 phone service. And then my dad had to come out 00:40:02.550 --> 00:40:04.550 the next day and pull it out with his power stroke, 00:40:04.630 --> 00:40:06.869 and he was so pissed at me for making him take 00:40:06.869 --> 00:40:10.130 his truck down that trail. Yeah, I think the 00:40:10.130 --> 00:40:12.969 only other thing I was kind of looking for was 00:40:12.969 --> 00:40:20.030 a 90s Chevy, like a 94 with a 350, because those 00:40:20.030 --> 00:40:23.369 are pretty solid, too, as far as just being ready. 00:40:23.769 --> 00:40:26.409 But I found this. It was pretty much already 00:40:26.409 --> 00:40:29.590 lifted. It was kind of a giveaway. It's hard 00:40:29.590 --> 00:40:34.150 to find non -rusty, non -broken Chevys for around 00:40:34.150 --> 00:40:36.329 the price that we were looking at, trying to 00:40:36.329 --> 00:40:39.090 keep everything around $2 ,000. I mean, that's 00:40:39.090 --> 00:40:42.670 cheap for a truck that's turnkey right now that 00:40:42.670 --> 00:40:47.090 isn't, like, rusty. Well, this was a very fun 00:40:47.090 --> 00:40:49.769 competition. I think this is a pretty good spot 00:40:49.769 --> 00:40:52.889 to call it. Duncan, I appreciate the hell out 00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:56.409 of you doing this. It was really cool. Yeah, 00:40:56.409 --> 00:41:01.230 it was very nice having an impartial judge. It's 00:41:01.230 --> 00:41:05.070 a lot of work on his end, too. Yeah, his spreadsheets 00:41:05.070 --> 00:41:07.369 and... Everything like that. Can't see all the 00:41:07.369 --> 00:41:09.949 work behind it, but it's a lot that he had to 00:41:09.949 --> 00:41:12.289 do to get ready for this. For sure. And mine 00:41:12.289 --> 00:41:16.070 was last second, too. I'm excited to see what 00:41:16.070 --> 00:41:17.610 the listeners come up with, too. I wonder if 00:41:17.610 --> 00:41:19.710 they'll fall into the same rut that we did of 00:41:19.710 --> 00:41:23.329 all just picking 90s Fords. Well, you know, the 00:41:23.329 --> 00:41:26.769 listeners come from different areas. You know, 00:41:26.789 --> 00:41:28.630 people from Arizona. Seems like it's only really 00:41:28.630 --> 00:41:30.349 sealed. Yeah, they're going to get something 00:41:30.349 --> 00:41:33.349 that's going to beat us for sure. I know Wreck 00:41:33.349 --> 00:41:37.269 -It Rob, which we should see his submission by 00:41:37.269 --> 00:41:39.989 this point, but he was messaging me earlier this 00:41:39.989 --> 00:41:43.590 week asking how things work a little bit. So 00:41:43.590 --> 00:41:46.429 we're at least getting one submission. Yeah, 00:41:46.449 --> 00:41:49.210 we can go over that probably, what, next recording? 00:41:49.769 --> 00:41:52.250 Yeah, so next Wednesday because they have to 00:41:52.250 --> 00:41:54.980 have him in by Tuesday. Yep. So then Wednesday, 00:41:55.219 --> 00:41:56.719 yeah, they'll have them in by the 8th, then we'll 00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.320 do it on Wednesday. Yeah. And then I got to hurry 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.179 up and get it edited because we're going camping 00:42:01.179 --> 00:42:03.760 on the 11th. So I have to have everything edited 00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:09.619 and put into, yeah, it'll be close. But, all 00:42:09.619 --> 00:42:12.119 right, on that note, we will catch you guys later. 00:42:12.380 --> 00:42:14.019 Yeah, thank you. Later.