Welcome to Botches Off -Road. Join us as we talk
about everything from gear reviews to trail stories,
tent camping to rock landing, and all things
to do with the outdoors. Today is our 5K Truck
Challenge for me, Mark, and Gavin. I've got Gavin
here in my studio and Mark in my extra studio
upstairs because no one has good working internet
or time to do stuff. Yep. Also, I haven't heard
today, so. Yeah. So we're all in one house for
the most part. All we've got that's not is Duncan,
our judge for the event. You know, we probably
should have sent those truck submissions to each
other so that we could look at them while we
go through them. I can see. Yeah, actually do
that. I was going to say I might be able to share
them with each of you, but. I start them all,
so I've got them all open. I can send mine. I'll
just send it to the group chat. It's over here,
so I can see it. Gavin, do you... Duncan, could
you send Gavin's? Or can you do it, Gavin? I
might be able to. Cool. We are very ill -prepared
today, guys, because we, like I said, we're recording
on a Thursday instead of on a... Wednesday, and
it just... The whole cycle's screwed up. Okay.
I got mine up there. Y 'all are waiting on his
mark. Yeah, hold on a second. So we could probably
just... Well, we, you, can probably just each
take a turn to describe your setup. Yep. what
you did, why you did it. And then, yeah, once
everyone's come through that, I can go over the
scores. I can go over as much or as little detail
as you like. Who wants to start? Alex, you want
to start? Yeah, I'll start first. I know how
excited Alex is about his. Oh, man, I've been
working on this for so long. He was like, did
he get it? I was like, yeah, I got it, Alex.
So, first, I guess I'll start with the truck.
And we'll do... I know we haven't been doing
chapter art lately, but we'll do some chapter
art on this one. It'll probably be later than
a Tuesday release because of it, but we'll get
there. So for the truck, I did a... Oh, yeah,
I forgot I added that stuff. I did a 94 F350
with a 5 .8 liter gasser. I mean, four -wheel
drive, single cab, long bed, nothing special.
I just wanted a truck, preferably with a solid
axle. And the cheapest way to do that is an old
OBS Ford. I also, because I had some money to
play with, wherever I found, wherever my lights
went, I picked up a 52 -inch light bar for the
roof with some light brackets. Overall, I think
that came out, the truck total is like $2 ,200.
really really cheap setup uh just a quick way
that you can just go get a small truck and go
wheeling uh if you go crew cab it's a little
worse um for tools i did the the age -old classic
i went on marketplace and there was someone i
don't remember how many tools were in here i
know it's shit tough like a bucket full yeah
so a bucket with 50 to 100 wrenches and 200 to
400 sockets um 150 bucks for the setup. Who knows
if it's got everything I need. No 10 mils. Yeah,
no 10 mils. It's all Imperial. Luckily, it's
an OBS Ford, so Imperial is all I really need.
And then I picked up a farm jack for 75 bucks.
Nothing crazy, just something tall enough to
lift that truck if need be. For tires, this is
a steel man. 37 Goodyear MTRs on Ford 8 -lugs,
so I didn't even need to swap the wheels for
$250. I think one of them had a leak, but I would
just keep filling it up. It's not a big deal.
Yeah, so $250. Like I said, if you're just looking
for a trail beater, you don't got to spend a
bunch of money. Next up, I grabbed some U -joints
from O 'Reilly's. There's... three or four of
them on the obs ford so i grabbed three of them
just to make sure that i had enough uh and i
grabbed a set of uh lockouts off uh marketplace
because those are like the two most likely to
break parts on an obs ford they're a pretty rock
solid truck to be honest um recovery gear luckily
it's a full -size truck so i just bought some
10 brackets to move the bumper down a little
bit And that makes it so I can run the universal
Harbor Freight winch plate. And then I grabbed
an X -Bowl winch to throw on top of that. So,
I mean, that's a pretty good recovery gear setup.
And one of the beauties of an OBS Ford is being
able to do the cheaper stuff like that. For my
GMRS radio, I did a Baofeng UV5R at like $17.
And, yeah, they just work. They're nothing special.
My nav, I did a Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 Lite. This
is actually what I run in my 4Runner right now.
And the only thing that makes these good is that
you can get them for under $50 on eBay. They're
really not a good tablet, but they're cheap.
For my hunting apparatus, I got a Stevens 12
-gauge shotgun on a local auction site for $52.
I actually almost bought this. But I missed the
auction. I was at $50, and someone else outbid
me by $2. I was not happy, but it is what it
is. Did I have anything else in that one? No,
that was it. And then I found some gas cans for
$15 on Marketplace, so that covered my five gallons
of gas. I would talk about my extras, but Duncan
didn't think it was cool. I'll talk about them
anyway. So I got... I helped. I just didn't total
them up. I got a 10 -foot flat -bottom boat to
put on the roof of my rig. I haven't gotten to
that part yet. Yeah, so I got a 10 -foot flat
-bottom boat, a couple of fishing poles, and
an outboard motor for that boat. I just had extra
money. For cooking, on that same auction site,
I was able to get a bin full of cast iron. It
looks like there's a chicken roaster. A couple
of pans. I mean, they needed cleaned up, but
for $12, you really couldn't beat it. And then
I also got a pull -behind barbecue pig roaster.
Because who wouldn't want to roast a pig on the
trail, man? Like, come on. That pig roaster,
I think, was like $600. But, you know, it was
worth it. $590, yeah. Yeah. So then, this is
what made it all possible for me. I was looking
for a slide -in camper, and I was expecting to
pay like $1 ,100. But some joker over in Monroe,
Michigan, decided to give away their slide -in
truck camper. It's like a decent truck camper.
It's not even in bad shape. It's got a pop -up.
roof that gives you a little bit extra height
this covers my toilet my pretty much all my storage
my trash my fridge my uh stovetop my bed i mean
this this was like the steel for my setup i mean
off -road wise uh they do okay they're not the
greatest thing i've definitely seen some like
out in moab and stuff that do better than you'd
expect But that's just a lot of weight on top
of you, so you got to know. I heard rumors of
someone who actually took an Alu cab all the
way down to Kentucky and should get up most of
the obstacles with it. Yeah, exactly. I also,
having done that I did a sliding camper, I had
to obviously set the truck up for it. So I grabbed
some camper tie -downs. That was $460. Yeah,
that was such a good steal. And then I got a
blanket for $25 and a pillow for $10. And that
covers my setup. Now, Duncan, I didn't add this
up. Did you add up how much it was total? Yeah.
What was my total? Well, like I said, I didn't
count the boat and the fishing and stuff because
I figured that would kind of count against you.
But it was under $5. I think it was like $48
maybe. I don't even think it was that though.
Yeah, it might have been like $43 or $44. That's
what I think it was. It was closer to 44. Yeah.
It wasn't fresh. Because I remember when I added
the boat last, and I was looking at it, and I'm
like, man, I still got like $1 ,000. So then
I added the boat. But mind you, one of the categories
was cheapest, though, so I was trying to give
you an edge there. I was like, man, if I count
all this just nonsense up for it, I'm going to
go over. Well, it wasn't going to go over. It's
just you weren't getting those points. You wanted
to go cheapest. That's true. That's true. So,
yeah, that's my setup. It's an OBS Ford with
a sliding camper and 37s. I don't want to give
the game away, but there's definitely going to
be a patent emerging here pretty quick. Be a
what? There's going to be a patent emerging here
pretty quick. I'm just going to guess it because
I think it's going to be a Ford thing. I don't
know why. But, I mean, getting onto that, I'll
talk about mine then real quick. So, I have a...
Oh, let's see if I could find the actual description
of it here. A 94 Ford Explorer. Make sure you
talk to her. Yeah, I got a 94 Ford Explorer for
$2 ,000. 25. In the description, lowest they'll
take is two, so I'm going with that. Why would
someone, I hate when people put that. he put
it there if he's and that's basically saying
that he'll take two so that's what i'm listening
the same way so so it's got four by four um he
says he's got enough spare parts to keep it on
the road for five years so so it's a fat war
nail i don't know what that is Spare warning.
I got enough spare parts to keep it on their
own for five years, so I didn't get any spare
parts. But it's all right. It's not the rustiest.
It looks like it's got 35s and 15s on it. So
I didn't really go too crazy on anything else,
really. Looks like it's got a good bit of lift
on it. It's got a light bar. So as far as the
rig goes, that's pretty much that. I'll start
from the top on mine that way. Bathroom for me.
I kept it really simple. I got some buckets off
a marketplace for a dollar. I got some pool noodles
to go around the bucket room. And I got some
ultra strong Presto toilet paper off Amazon for
24 bucks. That's my... That's my bathroom. And
then to cook, I have had my eye on this overlanding
kitchen set for the longest time. But the overlanding
kitchen set off of Facebook Marketplace for $180.
It's got your slide -out place for like a stove.
It's got a place for... Like your washing dishes,
stuff like that. So it's pretty cool. So I got
that. I got $15 20 -pound propane tanks. There
we go. I got an adapter, $12 adapter to run the
propane tank to the stove. And in the description...
They throw the stove in with the overlanding
set, by the way. Oh, nice. Yeah, so it's in there.
And then I got a $12 propane benzomatic torch
for starting fires and just to kind of have.
Yeah. $20 cook set, aluminum cook set from Coleman.
Looks like it's from, like, the 70s. And then
I got a Coleman camp oven to cook all my biscuits.
Nice. Then I got, for $39 off Amazon, I got a
gravity water filter system because I wouldn't
be able to carry a ton of water out there. So
I figured having some kind of filtered water
would be good. And then a $39 kind of all -purpose
cook utensil set with knives and stuff like that
off Amazon. Moving on to Hunt. I got my old faithful.
I actually have one of these at home, which is
why I bought them. I have, yeah, a 22. It's a
Heritage Rough Rider for $89 .99. And I can hit
good stuff with this. I'm confident I can get
a squirrel. I'm confident I can kill something
with it. So I got that on sale for $89 .99. That's
a damn good deal. Yeah. And a bucket of bullets
so that I can actually use my gun. Yeah. Uh -huh.
Right. But don't worry. Moving to nav, I have
a $27 .99 billed yearly OnyxX membership and
a $27 road atlas of the U .S. just in case I
don't have service. Or I forget to put a phone
on there, which I did. So I might be using the
road atlas. Moving on to radio, I have pretty
much the same thing, but I have two Baofeng,
what is it, UB5G, the same thing Alex had, the
Baofeng radios. So I got those for radio. Nothing
really, I mean, I don't know, we don't really
need to contact each other from more than a mile
away if we're doing this. Recovery I kind of
spend a little bit more money on. I kind of tried
to find an all -around kit so I wouldn't have
to play games. Now that I'm thinking about it,
I did forget something. I have, for $299, an
all -top recovery kit. It's got the recovery
straps, dampers, soft shackles, hitch, mount,
recovery rings, deflator, all that good stuff.
And then... Yeah, nice. And then I have, for
$198, I have traction boards and an off -road
jack. I like how those traction boards actually
have a slot in the center for the off -road jack.
Yeah. Yeah, and the off -road jack, so I didn't
really think about winch mounts. I looked at
it. I couldn't find anything purpose for my truck,
and I didn't know at the time that you could
get parts like what Alex pointed at or the OVS.
So I ended up just... Well, I've seen people
use an off -road jack to winch their truck out
before. It's hard, but it works. So that was
my, like, if I really get to it, I'll just have
to use that. For sleeping setup, I'm actually
sleeping in my truck. So I have the Overland
drawer on the right side. The sleeping setup's
going to be on the left side. I got a Tall Man
sleeping bag off the Marketplace for $25. That's
a good deal. I made sure that it actually would
fit me. just in case i didn't really need anything
else other than that because i'm going to use
my clothes as my pillow so spare parts i literally
just put the description of of the truck because
he apparently has enough to keep it going and
then i spent a lot of money on this so for my
god so yeah i mean if you would take these off
and i just use the spare tires i kind of did
the same thing as alex was like well i got extra
money to spend so i bought five brand new 35
12 50 by 15 kind of clever rts they're 304 dollars
a piece so the total is 15 21 15. so that's 1500
just in tires you don't have to do that i had
the little bit of extra money so i did i wanted
that extra traction with that and then for my
tool set i got a 225 piece uh mechanic channel
lock mechanic tool set it's kind of an all -arounder
on Facebook Marketplace for $85. That's a pretty
banging deal. Yeah. So I figured that would cover
most of anything that I needed. And then trash?
I got a $6 trash bags off of Facebook Marketplace
that were already open. They used one. So, yeah,
I mean, that's pretty much my build there. The
one thing I probably did forget was navigation.
And then... uh you know like a tablet or a phone
to use and just i honestly just was using my
phone so i was like i'll just use my phone but
you're going into this blind so i didn't really
uh think about that and then the other thing
i forgot was a way to air up my tires if i needed
to but i'm gonna put that as gas station yeah
we're filling up at gas stations there's some
gas stations but all right all right so that
yeah that's my build i'm pretty confident in
it i think it's i think it's got potential I
have no idea what Mark did. I don't think you're
going to be surprised. I think it's going to
be a Ford. Yeah, it's a Ford. It's a 97 F -150.
So I just realized I did not send the full description
in my screenshot, so I had to resend it in the
group chat to you guys. So if I bought my own
rims and tire, which is what I did, it comes
down to $1 ,000 for the truck. And then $1 ,000
for the truck. It's got my own tires. It's a
97 F -150 for listeners. Yep. Yep. Yes, we got
two Ford pickup trucks and a Ford SUV. All from
the 90s. All within like three or four years.
I had to buy a wheel. Yeah. I had to buy wheel
adapters because I actually went with 5 .5 bolt
pattern tires because that was the only ones
I could find. 35 -inch tires for sale in rims,
which that was $500 for rims tires. Yes. Yeah.
So that's the truck. I forgot about aux lights,
so I did not have any of those. I probably have
money left over for them, though. My... The sleeping
bedroom slash kitchen slash restroom, since it
didn't make sense to break it open folders, is
a slide -in camper as well. Originally, I was
looking for a motorcycle pop -up camper thing
that me and Alex have talked about previously
putting in my truck, so I was looking for one
of those, but nothing came about it, and this
popped up in my feed for it being trailered.
But you can take it off and put it in a jar.
That F -150 would be crying. Yeah. But, I mean,
that really set him up. Yeah, that's everything.
Yeah, and then I also found... That's probably
a better... Man, the audio is really bad for
me trying to hear you. Kitchen utensils I found
for $20. Potspans for $35. Camping dish set for
$30. And was there anything else? Yeah, no. Spare
parts, I just did CV axles. That was the first
thing I found. And, of course, when I was doing
this, it was all in one night, so it was kind
of burned out by the end of the night when it
came to spare parts. Tools, I bought a Bauer
Impact brushless lift charger and battery. Yeah,
makes sense. It's a good setup. And then I also
got Pittsburgh kit with basic tools. For any
listeners paying attention, we're having some
connectivity issues, even though we're in the
same house. So if we sound broken up, that's
why. You won't know that because we record independently.
Yeah. That's a good deal, Mark. I bought a basic
trash can for like $14. I think it's actually
$13 .29. Did not get bags. That was my fault.
And then recovery, I bought a winch plate dedicated
for the F -150 for that year. And then I bought...
Winch off a Facebook market for $2 .50. It's
a 13 -pound winch. Or 13 ,000 -pound winch, I'd
say. Then they got a Chinese knock -off of a
beaver. It's called Velor. Velor. Yeah, the listing
says Velor, and it's actually beaver. Then I
got a Beofang HP. The Beofang's definitely held
strong. Yeah. That was $62 .89, but I just considered
$63. And then Nav, I went with a Samsung tablet.
I think it's the same one I bought last time,
my little 8 -inch one. It can at least run Onyx,
so that's all that mattered. And then I bought
a mount for it, which that one's like $27 for
the mount. It just mounts to somewhere on the
dash. And then for hunt, I just got a bow and
arrows. A little compound bow. It's a pretty
decent deal on that old bear. Yeah. How about
it all? That was old faithful, man. You ain't
got to worry about ammo. Comes with it. Yeah.
Like I said, I think I'm missing a couple items,
but like I said, I was doing this one night.
I got burned out at the end of it. I'm like,
all right, I might have a couple items missing.
Yeah, no, that's pretty solid. You get it. I
think my last calculation was like 4 ,700 -something.
All right. Now that we have all the builds on
here, I think we should turn it over to Duncan
so that he can grade us and tell us what he thinks.
Yeah. Yeah, so obviously I kind of broke this
up into two different sections. You know, I'd
share the spreadsheet if I could, but obviously,
you know, I'm very anal and very particular.
So it's all laid out all beautifully and everything's
all formatted and pretty with Excel. So, you
know, you know how it is. I'm not going to create
it on this myself, but I think I'd give myself
an A. So, yeah, general scoring. So the first
one was kind of out at 21 points. So it's basically
just making sure that everyone hits all the big
things. 34 -inch tires have to have a way to
cook, a way to hunt. The tires have to realistically
clear the body. You have to have a bathroom setup
that allows pack -in, pack -out, place for trash,
a way to carry water, a way to store food, five
gallons of gas in reserve, a GMRS radio, navigation,
tool set, spares for common issues of your vehicle,
a way to start a fire, somewhere to sleep with
bedding. The vehicle has to be able to travel
at least 45, has to be a 4x4. everything has
to realistically fit in the vehicle. So you have
to be able to store it all. It has to be registrable.
The whole thing has to be under five grand. You
have to have recovery gear. And as I alluded
to, everyone hit all those. So it was full marks
for everyone on that part. So everyone kind of
went into the second part, which I considered
like the award quote unquote score with full
points. So the first of the awards, I guess,
was the heaviest vehicle. So the way I did this
was. I did it by the heaviest vehicle that I
think we would go off -roading with. And I saw
that as a positive because obviously if you have
some super light thing, there's a risk of a rollover.
Obviously, you don't want something that weighs,
you know, a million pounds and they can't get
up a hill. But so the heaviest vehicle that we
would go off -roading with was Alex's. So it
was only by like a couple hundred pounds or so.
So Alex got the one point for that one. The lightest
vehicle was Gavin's SUV. So Gavin got a point
for that. Most storage, I said that was Mark.
He had the biggest camper, lots of room just
on the floor and on the bedding and everything
to store stuff. So Mark got the two points for
that. Unfortunately, Gavin just putting everything
in the back of the SUV. He had the least storage,
so he lost a point for that. Biggest tires was
the next one. That was two points, and Alex won
that. Alex had 37 -inch tires. So, and I was,
I read that and I was like, man, he's going to
have a heck of a time. But Alex does also have
dual solid axles. So I don't think he really
ran into an issue. And I did a lot of research
into this. I'll have you know, I was like, can
you fit 37s? And everyone was saying, yeah, if
you just hack and trim enough, you'll get them
in that. So I was like, yep, good enough for
me. Yeah, he's not. I've seen, yeah. So Dirt
Every Day, a while ago, they did a Crew Cab F350.
And they cut it until I think they fit 54s under
it on stock height. Jeez. And that was my thinking.
I was like, you know, he can make him fit well
enough if you just give him enough love with
an anvil grinder and a sledgehammer. So, yeah,
Alex won that one with the biggest tires. And
then, unfortunately, we had to draw off the smallest
tires because both Mark and Gavin are running
35s. So that was minus two for each of them.
Most horsepower that I found was Mark's. I think
Mark's had 500 or 500, geez. I think it was 220.
And then I think Alex had like 210 and Gavin
had like, I want to say like 180, I think. It's
just the V8 Triton motor. And then most rust,
unfortunately, that was Alex's. Nothing structural
that I could see from the pictures, but just
the really typical, like the fenders that chewed
out a little bit, the beds a little chewed out.
I was going to cut it all off anyway. I know,
I know. It's nothing that would make a difference.
But the least rust was Gavin's. That's actually,
you know, I think if you got really up close,
I think you can see some of the panels are hammered
in and remainted, but it was clean. So Gavin
got the two points there. And I also gave...
Gavin the most turnkey ready, you know, given
that he's just sleeping in the back of it. Like
he doesn't really need to do anything. He basically
just needs to load it up with everything. So
he won that. And then the last of kind of these
small scoring ones was the most capable cooking
setup. And I thought about this a lot and I gave
it to Mark because he had the full pan setup.
He actually had utensils, which Gavin did too.
And obviously he's got like a full cooking setup
in the camper as well with plenty of storage
and things. I had a pig roaster. You did actually.
And that'll play to your hand later on. So now
we'll kind of get into the big scoring ones.
So these are each worth five points. So fastest
setup time I gave to Alex. I figured he could
just pull in. pocket, and then if the camper
needs outriggers, he can put those down, but
he's pretty much done if he just loads everything
off. I think Gavin would be a very close second
because it would really just be a case of pulling
things out of the SUV. And then, yeah, I think
Mark would be around the same time. If they did
add on mine, I actually put a roof rack off of
Amazon, which I don't think I actually mentioned,
but that's where a lot of my crap is going to.
I even have a pack of straps on there. That it's
just, it was though. And it's kind of hard when
you look at like the spare parts that they put
in the bio. Yeah. It's like, I don't know what
they do and don't have. So I'm just assuming
it's not a whole lot. And I think it's solid
axle on front and back, isn't it? It is. So it
is. It's so I wasn't worried about a CV axle.
And so I'm hoping that everything can go up top
for the most part. There's no guarantee there.
So that's completely fair. Yep. We can put them
in my boat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And because of
the boat. the pig roaster and the fishing poles.
Um, I gave Alex the five points, the most unique
build. He just had some wild stuff on there and
just, you know, started blowing out the budget.
So I thought that was that camper, that camper
saved my ass, man. That was a good zero dollars
for that thing. That's a pretty good shape. It
just needs, it looks like all just, uh, yeah,
just TLC, just visual appearances and stuff.
So it was, so yeah, Alex got five for the fastest
setup, five for the most unique. The cheapest
one was actually Gavin's one. I think Gavin,
with the whole setup, came in like a touch over
$4 ,000. So Gavin really kept the price down
really well for that. And then we get the most
prepared for mechanical failures. So I gave Mark
that one. So he had the full toolkit. He did
actually have a Bauer impact in there as well.
I saw that. Which I think was really good thinking,
so definitely saved some people's wrist pain
and some forearm pain. Yeah. He was the most
prepared for mechanical. I think most prepared
overall, I gave that one to Mach too. I think
really good tool setup. I think the campo was
a really good idea too, so he had plenty of room
for that. Good cooking setup. I also liked the
idea of having a bow as well, so you're not having
to rely on ammunition necessarily. I know arrows
break. but maybe there's a way you could fudge
some more. So Mark got the five points for most
prepared overall. And then most prepared for
recoveries. I hemmed and hawed about this one
for ages. I looked at everyone's rig and I was
like, man, like which one's the best? And the
fact that both Mark and Alex had winches is really
good. But then Gavin's idea of actually just
getting a kit just with all the extra soft shackles
and straps and everything was also a really good
idea. But I was just so torn between, you know,
Alex having both the winch and the high lift
jack or the trail jack, and then Gavin having
the full setup that it was a tie for me. So both
Alex and Gavin got the five points for the most
prepared for off -road recoveries. And then the
last one, which I thought quite a bit about,
was most off -road capable. Yeah. Yeah, that
has to be Gavin. So the only thing that I was
hesitant about with Gavin's was that I didn't
know it was a solid axle until I dug some more
into it. So with the fact that it's a solid axle,
the fact that it's not, you know, like a three
-quarter ton truck. So I think it was something
like three feet shorter than the other two trucks
and like a foot narrower. Also had a significantly
smaller turn radius. I think Gavin can... turn
in about 38 feet. And I think with those three
quarter tons, it was about like 45 feet, 46 feet.
So I thought, I think he'd be the most maneuverable
on the trail. So Gavin got the five points for
that. And if you add them all up, there's actually
only a point between everyone. Oh my gosh. It
was really close. I didn't plan for that. I kind
of just went through it and I was like, I have
to be really strategic about this. So with 34
points. So in third place was Mark. So Mark got
the two awards for most prepared for mechanical
and most prepared overall. And with 35 points
was Alex. So Alex got fastest setup, most unique
by far, and then tied for most prepared for recoveries.
And then with 36 points, it was Gavin. So he
got the cheapest rig, the most prepared for recoveries
tied with Alex, and the most off -road capable.
How far away from your house is that rig, Gavin?
It's about 250 miles. Yeah, it's close. It's
really close. Yeah, we looked at it, the give
or take, and that's why I asked about it last.
I should have stuck with you. You couldn't do
it. It's all the way down in Muncie, Indiana.
Yeah. I looked at it. You know what? If you want
to get tentacle, you could probably argue about
my rims and tires because I'd have to take the
ferry over to get those if I want to keep underneath
the mileage. That's fair enough. I didn't look.
I didn't look. No. Well, you know, I'm glad that
we all picked something different because the
obvious one would probably be a Cherokee or an
XJ. Dude, they were so easy to find. The problem
is, so I was looking for a Cherokee. For one
that wasn't rotted the fuck out, it was like
$4 ,000. And I'm like, man, by the time I do
that, I've got nothing left. So I was like, what
do I even fucking do here? At the end of the
day, if you want a decent vehicle for $105 ,000
and to be able to get this whole setup and stuff
with it, Toyota really isn't in your price range.
No. I hate to say it, but you're - At least a
good Toyota. Right. You're stuck with things
like 90s Fords and - xjs that already beat the
shit yeah the upside is that xjs will typically
have a lift maybe 35 to light bar maybe a winch
i did find one for like 15 or 2000 that already
had all that but that's such an obvious answer
and i didn't want to i didn't want to dilute
it just in case someone else did xj too because
i don't even i think the uh because i used an
xj for the um the example rig yeah that i seem
to not be able to find on i mean our group chat
the main group chat yeah yeah but i also should
be able to just find it on my uh there it is
oh yeah so i did an xj for the example rig which
i don't even know how the example rig fit because
i literally just grabbed stuff yeah um and that
one's like two thousand dollars and it didn't
look too bad but right i was more worried about
fitting everything in an xj yeah Well, that was
actually the biggest reason me getting a roof
rack for the SUV, because I knew space was going
to be my downfall. But at the end of the day,
if it's just me, I'm like, I can split it up
and sleep in the back and keep everything on
the top. But that was the only thing I could
find that was solid axle that wasn't a G, really,
to be honest. I think the issue I had when it
came to looking for vehicles was one either had
some form of mechanical issue for cheap. So it
was like kind of hard when you're listing it
and then it's like has nothing running for me.
And then one, they don't tell you if it's a four
wheel drive or not. Right. You literally have
to go off your stickers. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And
I think ironically, the more everyone tried to
be different. Kind of stranded was the same thing.
Yeah. Which was? Yeah, there were two 1994 Fords
and a 1997. Yeah. So two pickup trucks, one SUV.
Which, to be fair, like, so early 90s Fords,
they're just pretty solid in general. Yeah. Even
the rest of them are pretty solid. I didn't even
look, Gavin. What engine is in that thing? Triton?
Is that what you said, Duncan? Yeah, I think
it was the Triton V8 engine. Mine's a V10. Let
me see. You had the 97. I've looked at so many
of those. Yeah, it had a 4 .6 liter V8 in the
97s. So I think the Triton was like a 4 .2 or
4 .4. You know what? That one only had a 4 .6
in it. The 94 Explorer. oh gosh let me see here
where i was looking uh four liter four liter
v6 oh actually so so if he has the marks marks
has the four six in it then yes yep four six
liter v8 the four six truck engine only makes
190 horsepower oh i used all the same uh listings
for it so i went off kelly blue book for everything
Oh, yeah. That's all the different ones. Because
it depended on where you look, too. Like, some
places wanted to have it as more, some wanted
to have it as less. So I went all off the same
one. Round of applause for Duncan on how organized,
though. Yeah. I can't lie. I didn't want to make
any enemies here. So you wouldn't. You wouldn't.
This is such a who -gives -a -fuck competition.
We didn't care. No. And it's really cool, and
it does kind of... show the average listener
that it is it is doable um and it's not like
you have to have all of this right up front either
you don't need five grand right up front get
enough money for a truck and then start from
there yeah i think i don't well so in high school
i had an 88 chevy pickup two -wheel drive that
i paid like 500 bucks for and that's what i wheeled
for a good year and a half and i mean it was
two -wheel drive but And it was a V6 manual,
too. Oh, I loved that little truck. But in Michigan,
you really don't need the four -wheel drive.
I did. Me and my buddies went out at, like, 2
a .m. after my graduation party and got it stuck
in the prairie and had to walk back. It took
us five hours to walk back to somewhere we had
phone service. And then my dad had to come out
the next day and pull it out with his power stroke,
and he was so pissed at me for making him take
his truck down that trail. Yeah, I think the
only other thing I was kind of looking for was
a 90s Chevy, like a 94 with a 350, because those
are pretty solid, too, as far as just being ready.
But I found this. It was pretty much already
lifted. It was kind of a giveaway. It's hard
to find non -rusty, non -broken Chevys for around
the price that we were looking at, trying to
keep everything around $2 ,000. I mean, that's
cheap for a truck that's turnkey right now that
isn't, like, rusty. Well, this was a very fun
competition. I think this is a pretty good spot
to call it. Duncan, I appreciate the hell out
of you doing this. It was really cool. Yeah,
it was very nice having an impartial judge. It's
a lot of work on his end, too. Yeah, his spreadsheets
and... Everything like that. Can't see all the
work behind it, but it's a lot that he had to
do to get ready for this. For sure. And mine
was last second, too. I'm excited to see what
the listeners come up with, too. I wonder if
they'll fall into the same rut that we did of
all just picking 90s Fords. Well, you know, the
listeners come from different areas. You know,
people from Arizona. Seems like it's only really
sealed. Yeah, they're going to get something
that's going to beat us for sure. I know Wreck
-It Rob, which we should see his submission by
this point, but he was messaging me earlier this
week asking how things work a little bit. So
we're at least getting one submission. Yeah,
we can go over that probably, what, next recording?
Yeah, so next Wednesday because they have to
have him in by Tuesday. Yep. So then Wednesday,
yeah, they'll have them in by the 8th, then we'll
do it on Wednesday. Yeah. And then I got to hurry
up and get it edited because we're going camping
on the 11th. So I have to have everything edited
and put into, yeah, it'll be close. But, all
right, on that note, we will catch you guys later.
Yeah, thank you. Later.